Yup, I’ve always known it as ‘engine turning’ here in UK. It is a very nice pattern. I recently used it on an aluminium sheet for a dashboard on my little Honda motorcycle, using a dowel in my drill-press with a small piece of Scotchbrite on the end, and WD40 as a lubricant. It looks really attractive. Thanks Mark, a great video as always! Les 🇬🇧
Once owned a WW II era radio receiver with a jeweled front panel. The story was the radio was homebuilt during the war, when paint was considered a strategic - and rationed - material. It is a unique look.
This may some silly; I had never considered putting the compound on the part. I have always tried to somehow charge the tool. Now I know! Thanks for the great demonstration.
Thanks heaps for this. I have a ~ 50 year old Winchester long action model 70 featherweight rifle in .243 calibre that has a jewelled bolt on it. I always wondered how it was done for all those years & now after about half a century of ownership - I’ve finally found out. Thanks heaps for the info / video - really simple to do, so now I have to go & order me some Loctite 280 grit clover grinding paste. 👍👍👍🇦🇺
Yes we call it engine turning here in the UK I've always used cork in the end of the spindle but doesn't last that long so I like the idea of using dowel thanks for the idea, like your videos. Graham.
Yes, it is often called engine turning- but that is incorrect. Engine turning is a technique used in jewelry making, where a pattern is made from scribing the surface in a pattern, done twice (or more) from different directions. It makes a graded pattern that catches the light. It literally uses an engine (in the 19th century sense) to move a table incrementally. I have seen it done- lots of levers, pulleys and leather belts. Setting it up is very skilled work.
ese sistema lo usabamos en la fabrica alimenticia donde trabaje hasta mi jubilacion para desimular las imperfecciones en los tableros electricos de acero inox.lo denominabamos facetado
I notice you put each row in line with the previous row. I believe it is normally done in an interleaved pattern (each row between the previous row)- it makes a hexagon pattern.
I LUV THIS VIDEO! I’m very new to machining. I use a Sherline Tabletop Mill & Lathe to make custom Scratch Scale Auto models. The area I want to use this process on is very small 30mm x 40mm section of 1061 Aluminum. Trying to think of what I can use to set in a collet….🤔 Excellent video right down to the oversight made at 3:16 in video. That actually made my day! Knowing that every makes a mistake on occasion ! Thank You Sir!!!! Lee aka: ZenModeling
@@WinkysWorkshop Says who “The Collet Police” ? 😂 I tested several different options last nite & used several different type dowels in a few different sizes collets with mixed results. 2 out of 4 works great…
'Same technique is used in gilded lettering on fire trucks , etc . * Though it takes a bit of 'finesse' ! ! ! The 'engine turning' is done on the gold leaf with a cotton pad , usually with just a single 'spin' of the pad - the pressure has to be 'just right' ! Fun stuff !
Is it possible to freehand jewel something with a cordless drill or would it just be far too improvise and irregular, unless perhaps the irregularity of it became an intentional feature with different size circles etc.? Thoughts.
Not sure how the random pattern would look... maybe good. However, the end of the wood dowel has to be perfectly square to the work. It would be hard to do with a hand drill. The end of the dowel would walk around on the metal.
We were taught Jewelling back in Grade 7 or 8 Industrial Arts... with a drill press, and a ball point pen with an Ink Eraser on the back, like a pencil...
I've always known that as 'engine turning'. It's was a popular way of dressing up parts on vintage planes and old hot rods from back in the 50's and 60's. I've seen several dashboard panels done out of aluminum that way, but I always thought it could produce some really distracting sun glare as you are driving.
Sorry I do not think this is Jewelling. I have watched a Jeweller doing Jewelling on a locket. It consists of chasing Vs at right angles to produce a pattern that looks like Jewels. I believe this is just another form of what we know as Engine turning.
Many different methods but I thinks it's more a matter of what people want to call it. Googled: Engine turning may refer to either Guilloché engraving, or the different process of Perlée (also known as spotting, jewelling, perlage) which is a fine geometric pattern of overlapping circles abraded onto the surface.
Yup, I’ve always known it as ‘engine turning’ here in UK. It is a very nice pattern. I recently used it on an aluminium sheet for a dashboard on my little Honda motorcycle, using a dowel in my drill-press with a small piece of Scotchbrite on the end, and WD40 as a lubricant. It looks really attractive. Thanks Mark, a great video as always! Les 🇬🇧
Very cool! Thanks for watching
I did the same for an old Porsche 914 10 years ago. I used a 3M Scotchbrite wheel on end w/o any lubricant.
I am a clockmaker, and in the clockmaking and watch industry it is called damascene. As mentioned it is also called Jeweling and engine turning.
Interesting... never heard that term.
Nicely done! Gives a real professional finish and satisfying to do too.
Thank you.
Fantastic! I learned a completely unknown technical skill just now! These patterns were more common in the 60s, and I loved them as a kid.
Unknown to me...
Yeah it was common in cars in the 60s but this lathe was covered up with it originally and it's pre 1906.
That was actually a lot simpler than I thought it was going to be. Thank you for sharing.
Yeah, it was very easy to do. Thanks
Great demonstration Mark, it looks easy enough as well, cheers!
Thanks 👍 yes, very easy
Looks great Mark. I had to squeeze my brain to remember the other name for it, but it is also called "Engine Turning" Thanks for bringing us along.
Haha... I'll have to try squeezing too. 😜
Once owned a WW II era radio receiver with a jeweled front panel. The story was the radio was homebuilt during the war, when paint was considered a strategic - and rationed - material. It is a unique look.
Wow... very cool.
This may some silly; I had never considered putting the compound on the part. I have always tried to somehow charge the tool. Now I know! Thanks for the great demonstration.
It seems to work better like this.
Jeweling seems the perfect task for a cnc. Nicely done.
Automatic Jeweling 😜
Mark that came out Just beautiful, love the jewling, the blue is a great color. The 2 really come together
I think so too! Thanks
Thanks heaps for this. I have a ~ 50 year old Winchester long action model 70 featherweight rifle in .243 calibre that has a jewelled bolt on it.
I always wondered how it was done for all those years & now after about half a century of ownership - I’ve finally found out.
Thanks heaps for the info / video - really simple to do, so now I have to go & order me some Loctite 280 grit clover grinding paste. 👍👍👍🇦🇺
You're welcome. There are several ways to do this but this worked well for me.
@@WinkysWorkshop Ordered 3 tubs today, there will be no stopping me now! 😉😂😂
@@ianmoone2359 That's a lot! Have fun.
@@WinkysWorkshop I’m gonna jewel everything I make up the wazoo! 😜😂😂🇦🇺👍
looks good,Mark.Thank you.
You are very welcome
Yes we call it engine turning here in the UK I've always used cork in the end of the spindle but doesn't last that long so I like the idea of using dowel thanks for the idea, like your videos.
Graham.
Yes the wood seems to work perfectly Thanks for watching.
I enjoy your videos & your never too old to learn new things thanks.@@WinkysWorkshop
Soft leather glued on the end of a dowel and fine lapping compound works well.
@@headstocktailstock I agree. and Thanks!
Yes, it is often called engine turning- but that is incorrect. Engine turning is a technique used in jewelry making, where a pattern is made from scribing the surface in a pattern, done twice (or more) from different directions. It makes a graded pattern that catches the light. It literally uses an engine (in the 19th century sense) to move a table incrementally. I have seen it done- lots of levers, pulleys and leather belts. Setting it up is very skilled work.
UN TRABAJO MUY PULCRO COMO SIEMPRE AMIGO
Thanks
Indeed, it leaves a nice effect.
I agree, thanks
Very nice demo !
Thank you!
That is very interesting Mark. Also, it is quite easy to do. Thanks for sharing.
Yes, very easy. Thanks
Looks good Mark. Engine turned is another term.
Thanks Andy, yeah, I've heard that as well.
ese sistema lo usabamos en la fabrica alimenticia donde trabaje hasta mi jubilacion para desimular las imperfecciones en los tableros electricos de acero inox.lo denominabamos facetado
Interesting... many names
👍👍👍@@WinkysWorkshop
fantastic.......cheers my friend, Paul down in Orlando
Thanks!
Nice work Mark . Another way is to use Cratex rod .
That might work just as well
I saw one guy using an ink eraser from the end a pen.
I notice you put each row in line with the previous row. I believe it is normally done in an interleaved pattern (each row between the previous row)- it makes a hexagon pattern.
Id say you are right.
I have used roloc discs for this as well. Less messy that way😂
I'd say that would work well.
It looks so good....
thanks
looks wonderful.....Bravo
Thank you so much 😀
I LUV THIS VIDEO! I’m very new to machining. I use a Sherline Tabletop Mill & Lathe to make custom Scratch Scale Auto models.
The area I want to use this process on is very small
30mm x 40mm section of 1061 Aluminum.
Trying to think of what I can use to set in a collet….🤔
Excellent video right down to the oversight made at 3:16 in video. That actually made my day! Knowing that every makes a mistake on occasion !
Thank You Sir!!!!
Lee
aka: ZenModeling
Thanks! You can't use a dowel in your collet?
@@WinkysWorkshop
Says who “The Collet Police” ? 😂
I tested several different options last nite & used several different type dowels in a few different sizes collets with mixed results. 2 out of 4 works great…
@@Zen_Modeling Cool!
now that is a useful video... thank you for posting it....
Glad it was helpful, Thanks
This patterning mainly used for sheet aluminium to hide scratches ( look at pictures of "Spirit of St Louis")
It was all over this lathe originally but most of it was hard to see.
'Same technique is used in gilded lettering on fire trucks , etc . * Though it takes a bit of 'finesse' ! ! !
The 'engine turning' is done on the gold leaf with a cotton pad , usually with just a single 'spin' of the pad - the pressure has to be 'just right' ! Fun stuff !
I love it on steel and cast.
"Engine Turning" is the name I've always known. But either way, it turned out great! Take care, G.
Yeah... lots of names for the same process, Thanks!
Ive tried doing this before freehand with sandpaper but couldnt get it to work. What did you have on the end of the dowel?
wooden dowel becomes embedded with the Clover valve lapping compound.
Just the wood dowel cut off square.
Its called Damasening or Engine turning. You over lap each swirl by 1/3 for a traditional finish.
I didn't know about the 1/3rd but thats about that I did.
Looks great
Thanks
Is it possible to freehand jewel something with a cordless drill or would it just be far too improvise and irregular, unless perhaps the irregularity of it became an intentional feature with different size circles etc.? Thoughts.
Not sure how the random pattern would look... maybe good. However, the end of the wood dowel has to be perfectly square to the work. It would be hard to do with a hand drill. The end of the dowel would walk around on the metal.
Looks great winky..
Thanks
We were taught Jewelling back in Grade 7 or 8 Industrial Arts... with a drill press, and a ball point pen with an Ink Eraser on the back, like a pencil...
Cool
Looks like a bought one, very well done.
Thanks
I've always known that as 'engine turning'. It's was a popular way of dressing up parts on vintage planes and old hot rods from back in the 50's and 60's. I've seen several dashboard panels done out of aluminum that way, but I always thought it could produce some really distracting sun glare as you are driving.
Interesting about the glare... I could see that happening.
In fact it’s not quite so bad as a plain sheet of aluminium, because the light is somewhat defused, but it can be glary under some conditions. Les
I have seen it done on Hot Dashboards. I think it wass refered to as engine turning?
I've heard it called that too.
I think its also call perlage.
I've heard all sorts of names for it.
Yes Jewelling is correct, it's used on Rifle Bolts and other moving parts to retain Oil.
And it looks cool too :o)
@@WinkysWorkshop It sure does.
I was taught by an old German who called the process damaskeening. I think it comes from watch making.
Cool, I have seen it on watches too
It’s also called Pearlage pronounced the French way
It seems to go by several names... this is a new one to me.
I’ve known it as Dowling!
I think I'll call it that seeing as how I used a wood dowel to make it.
We called it jeweling, used a piece of wood dowel rod. No tip preparation just dowel.
I tried this but it works much better with the grinding compound. Thanks
That has been called "engine turning" among other things.
I've heard that too
Sorry I do not think this is Jewelling. I have watched a Jeweller doing Jewelling on a locket. It consists of chasing Vs at right angles to produce a pattern that looks like Jewels. I believe this is just another form of what we know as Engine turning.
Many different methods but I thinks it's more a matter of what people want to call it. Googled: Engine turning may refer to either Guilloché engraving, or the different process of Perlée (also known as spotting, jewelling, perlage) which is a fine geometric pattern of overlapping circles abraded onto the surface.
looks like pearls and the real name of it is called perlage. FACTS
Honestly, I think it has many real names.
Damasceening, engine turning, jeweling? I've done it with clover compound and pencil erasers, felt pads, brass rods.
Cool process by many names.