Not unhappy about Alfie’s ban. Gives him a rest but also means that we have to do something a bit different. Don’t think he’s been at his best this season and to me he always looks knackered from the start of games.
Me too. I have to admit my heart sank a little when he signed for Charlton towards the end of last season. The cynic in me wants both Luton and Charlton to lose their next 3-4 games, and so maybe he could be back by December to give us hope to avoid relegation.
NJ has struggled everywhere he's managed since leaving Luton. He started well at Charlton but they too are now drifting down to midtable. I thank him for keeping us in the Championship but he's not the man to take us any further & neither is Rob Edwards.
Unacceptable that he has to endure this in this day and age. But it seems to coincide with him finding his shooting boots. I hope Eli is able to use this as extra motivation to score many more, and these morons are tracked down and educated and/or punished.
Wholeheartedly agree with you Lewis regarding Jordan Clark, he's bringing nothing whatsoever to the table and yesterday he was completely invisible. Elijah's growing in confidence thankfully so hopefully that will continue. However, I do feel we're trying to walk the ball into the net each time and right now we just don't have the players in those moments with the skill or technical ability to execute that kind of play. Inevitably, we lose the ball and having committed too many players to the press suddenly we're exposed at the back and end up in all sorts of trouble. I'm no businessman but the longer Edwards remains the weaker the board looks. It's time for Gary Sweet to step up and be decisive!
Well said on the disgusting racist abuse Lewis , as for the game on Friday evening, I can't see any change in formation. Edwards will just swap a few players around and hope for the best. We have been seeing most of the season in his post match interviews saying its down to him . Well, that's about the only thing he has got right. The board needs to act whether anything is going on behind the scenes we will have to wait, but these performances can't carry on , we are in the bottom three and no way should this squad be in this position. Its down to Edwards as he has said . Sorry, but for the sake of the club he has to go.
I personally blame the lack of investment, 2 players that we were actually linked with before destroyed us in Rudoni a Sheaf, the latter a real leader, Rudoni’s corners whipped in were superb and he’s a baller. I feel for Rob, the last two games prior to this one he had us purring. Some of the players had the best games of the season like Chong and Krause, but were taken off, big mistake because it invited them to attack us more in the second half. Don’t talk about the referee.
Good analysis, Lewis. I knew something was very wrong when we resorted to playing the long ball all the time. The inability to pass the ball up the pitch is indicative of the lack of confidence within the team currently. Never mind Plan B, we don't even have a working Plan A.
It's simple. We learnt that unless something dramatic changes we are heading for league one. i'm sure 2020 realise that too and will make the call of relieving Rob of his duties if they believe there is any risk of relegation.
Whether Taylor is doing it in training or not Woodrow and Brown are not consistently turning it on during the games. MaybevTaylor has lost confidence in the manager due to so few minutes. I say give him 3 starts and the fans can see if manager is right or wrong
I've learned 1 thing from the game - Nothing really has changed. The system doesn't work. This season has echoes under Graeme Jones and the board left it almost too late before sacking him. He won just 10 games from 37 and Edwards has just 8 from 42 in the 12 months from October 23/24 and that was when we returned to the Championship for the first time. 7 defeats from 12 games is how it stands right now, which is unacceptable considering half those games were avoidable losses or points dropped. As for the high press. Maybe it's time to change it, as that appears to be the reason why we have so many players out injured, which makes sense.
I don't get to Luton games these days, so I can only really comment about all the injuries, which is the real underlying problem for the Town I think. I've been following Luton since 1970 and I've never known anything like it. Whether it's because of this strong emphasis on pressing that players are being worked harder in training that at other clubs I don't know. Apart from losing players through injury, the knock on effect is not being able to rotate players who need a rest because there's a lack of options. As for the racist abuse hurled at Elijah. Social media companies should be made accountable and then they'll actually do something about it. Twitter is dreadful under Musk, as racism on there is now unchecked and offensive posts are left up there, even after people have been jailed for them here in the UK. Madness.
Coventry were good all game and tbh, Town could have been on the end of a hammering against a side that are way better than their position the table says. Too complacent second half where Town were schooled.
Nathan Jones is not the answer to our problems !! - he is a bog standard average manager in league 1 - who even struggles in league 1! If you remember NJ also had poor in game substitutions - give RE until the next international break in my opinion
I think our defender are naieve and in experience, They need to be alert wear the opposition player is and send the ball in the opposite direction or pass team player.Daiki Hashioka specially he has scored 2 own goal and help opposition win the last game.
Very dissapointing display, despite being 2-0 up never really looked comfortable, no control in midfield, Clark really looked anonymous for 90 mins, Krauss doesn't really look 100% but better than Clark, can't blame the defence too much, they tried but basically the ball just kept coming back and was only a matter time, that a mistake happened or one would get sent off has we had three on yellows. For the the life of me never understand why Chong is always the one that gets sub when Clark as offered nothing, Woodrow does nothing for me, never looks assured in the box, why not give Taylor a good 30mins in games like this. Luton are no good at 2-0 leads because they can't defend them, they would be better off coming out in the second half and tried to get a third, rather than trying protect what they had. Maybe I am being to harsh, maybe the twatford and sunderland game took it out of them, but coventry didn't look tired!! West Brom game now looks precarious with doughty and holmes out, hope Rob doesn't come out and dress it up because we offered absolutely nothing in the second half and once Coventry got their goal, there was only going to be one winner, best we could have hoped for was to hang on for a draw.
I wish people would be honest and admit plan B plan A or plan Z makes no difference, the truth is we lack quality players. We don't have good enough finishers, skilled enough dribblers, rounded enough midfielders or defenders. We have a good keeper and Alfie when he is on form. Then we have a string of league one and two players. We need a clear out and some more proven ball players and finishers who are a bit more zippy and un nerve defenders.
Maybe top ten yes but most teams in the Championship could make some sort of claim to say the same. Tenth place to fifteenth could be barely any points difference. That's my whole point, so is that where we will stay forever and a day unless we have a disaster season and get relegated? If we went down Alfie, Menghi, Kaminski and Moses are the only candidates who could stay in Championship level clubs at the least. Morris and Elijah are the next stage down and could probably do so too. The rest would be at their true level. That squad last year with Barkley and Sambi only managed 25 points in the Prem, with them gone we are levels below. Who in this squad can switch play across the field to open up space, shoot from distance, take someone or two players on and score, dribble and lay off at the right time? Which one of our defenders has both skill and grit in equal measures? Who is our leader at the back? Edwards isn't on it in my opinion true but, with a new manager can you name the team the formation and the style that would unnerve any other team in the Championship and shut down attackers who can turn it on, keep hold of the ball and give a lesson in finishing like so many opponents have down to us this season? If its true that the levels between the Prem and the Championship are a wider and wider gap that means there is a type of player, often young and not injured, who is finding himself in the Championship who previously could have been a prem player. WE ARE NOT GETTING ANY OF THOSE PLAYERS. Other teams are.
@donner101 Premiership is a different question. No, as it stands now, I don't think the squad is strong to compete and avoid relegation. They would need to add 2/3 players of quality for that. I wouldn't know if any Prem clubs have made enquiries/ offers for players over the summer, that's a closely guarded secret. But I would be amazed if 2 or 3 hadn't at least been enquired about but LTFC would have put a price on their heads which was probably too steep for the enquiring clubs. I do think the players they have are good enough to gain promotion from Championship though. Morris, Adebayo, Chong, Brown all good enough in attack. Kraub, Nakamba, Baptiste and possibly Walsh all good enough in Mid. There's that guy coming in Jan as well, who could be an exciting prospect. Then Back line you have Burke, Mengi, Holmes, Walters, Doughty & McGuiness all good enough. Kaminski in goal, possibly the best shot stopper in league. It's just his distribution that's been lacking, although he seems to have been working on this area as he's been taking free kicks from own half. Then you have Moses who can play in a number of roles and is good enough. The rest of the squad Clark, Woodrow Mpanzu etc. You could argue aren't good enough or maybe more fairly, consistent. But they will still do a job in the odd game and make a difference.
Recent reactions/posts sadly reflect our current society: you're either a success or a failure, you're great or you're rubbish, you're manager of the year or you're worthy of the sack; nothing in-between. The fact we managed to achieve 30 points last season despite punching well above our weight, twinned with the fact we had a serious amount of injuries, is massive credit of Rob Edwards, the staff and players, fans and all connected to the club. This season, we are struggling, so all the more reason to support and encourage Rob and the team to work through it. We outplay Watford and we're great again. Lose to Coventry and we're useless. Football, like life, is full of seasons of prosperity, struggle, highs and lows. To give Rob and the team lots of grace and support is sure to help them to turn our form around, even if it does take a lot longer than we would like. We're all human and we usually grow stronger through times of struggle. We've come so far in such a short space of time and we've been spoilt, to some extent, compared to most other clubs. In my view, the feeling of entitlement is not a good look and flip/flopping between managers rarely brings long term success. If we can get behind the staff through this rough patch, we will all be the stronger for it.
Recent reactions/posts sadly reflect our current society: you're either a success or a failure, you're great or you're rubbish, you're manager of the year or you're worthy of the sack; nothing in-between. The fact we managed to achieve 30 points last season despite punching well above our weight, twinned with the fact we had a serious amount of injuries, is massive credit of Rob Edwards, the staff and players, fans and all connected to the club. This season, we are struggling, so all the more reason to support and encourage Rob and the team to work through it. We outplay Watford and we're great again. Lose to Coventry and we're useless. Football, like life, is full of seasons of prosperity, struggle, highs and lows. To give Rob and the team lots of grace and support is sure to help them to turn our form around, even if it does take a lot longer than we would like. We're all human and we usually grow stronger through times of struggle. We've come so far in such a short space of time and we've been spoilt, to some extent, compared to most other clubs. In my view, the feeling of entitlement is not a good look and flip/flopping between managers rarely brings long term success. If we can get behind the staff through this rough patch, we will all be the stronger for it.
You were steam rolled for the majority of the game and we should have won 5 or 6 2 I predicted that Luton would struggle with their old Wimbledon footie most teams will just read your predictable physical tactics Morris is past the sell by date and you need a new manager and tactics ASAP
Edwards clearly doesn't rate Joe Taylor, giving him a couple of minutes here and there is frankly insulting.
Not unhappy about Alfie’s ban. Gives him a rest but also means that we have to do something a bit different. Don’t think he’s been at his best this season and to me he always looks knackered from the start of games.
I know Nathan Jones left us twice but I'd have him back in a heartbeat! Yes I know a lot of people will disagree but that's my opinion
I would too but suspect its a 50-50 split
Me too. I have to admit my heart sank a little when he signed for Charlton towards the end of last season. The cynic in me wants both Luton and Charlton to lose their next 3-4 games, and so maybe he could be back by December to give us hope to avoid relegation.
No, no, no. Judus Jones shit on us twice, never again.
NJ has struggled everywhere he's managed since leaving Luton. He started well at Charlton but they too are now drifting down to midtable. I thank him for keeping us in the Championship but he's not the man to take us any further & neither is Rob Edwards.
Kudos to you for the comments on Adebeyo. Respect
Unacceptable that he has to endure this in this day and age. But it seems to coincide with him finding his shooting boots. I hope Eli is able to use this as extra motivation to score many more, and these morons are tracked down and educated and/or punished.
Wholeheartedly agree with you Lewis regarding Jordan Clark, he's bringing nothing whatsoever to the table and yesterday he was completely invisible. Elijah's growing in confidence thankfully so hopefully that will continue. However, I do feel we're trying to walk the ball into the net each time and right now we just don't have the players in those moments with the skill or technical ability to execute that kind of play. Inevitably, we lose the ball and having committed too many players to the press suddenly we're exposed at the back and end up in all sorts of trouble. I'm no businessman but the longer Edwards remains the weaker the board looks. It's time for Gary Sweet to step up and be decisive!
I learnt one thing from the coventry game. It's going to be the most important transfer window in January the club has ever faced.
Agree with you 1000 % on the Elijah situation - also agree that most of the time what a player does in training etc is irrelevant.
Well said on the disgusting racist abuse Lewis , as for the game on Friday evening, I can't see any change in formation. Edwards will just swap a few players around and hope for the best. We have been seeing most of the season in his post match interviews saying its down to him . Well, that's about the only thing he has got right. The board needs to act whether anything is going on behind the scenes we will have to wait, but these performances can't carry on , we are in the bottom three and no way should this squad be in this position. Its down to Edwards as he has said . Sorry, but for the sake of the club he has to go.
I personally blame the lack of investment, 2 players that we were actually linked with before destroyed us in Rudoni a Sheaf, the latter a real leader, Rudoni’s corners whipped in were superb and he’s a baller. I feel for Rob, the last two games prior to this one he had us purring. Some of the players had the best games of the season like Chong and Krause, but were taken off, big mistake because it invited them to attack us more in the second half. Don’t talk about the referee.
Good analysis, Lewis. I knew something was very wrong when we resorted to playing the long ball all the time. The inability to pass the ball up the pitch is indicative of the lack of confidence within the team currently. Never mind Plan B, we don't even have a working Plan A.
Good points as usual Lewis👍Got to get behind the team on Friday night .Hopefully we can get a win at the Kenny🤞🙏
Last manager to lose on my birthday was G.Jones
The original "bluffer" Graham Jones 🤡@@LewisWilliamsLTFC
Rob Edward has me support, back him up until he has player fit snuff to choice as a Team.
I know what you mean Lewis but you know when a manager just can't step up in ability it's not their fault everyone has their limits
It's simple. We learnt that unless something dramatic changes we are heading for league one. i'm sure 2020 realise that too and will make the call of relieving Rob of his duties if they believe there is any risk of relegation.
Whether Taylor is doing it in training or not Woodrow and Brown are not consistently turning it on during the games. MaybevTaylor has lost confidence in the manager due to so few minutes. I say give him 3 starts and the fans can see if manager is right or wrong
I've learned 1 thing from the game - Nothing really has changed. The system doesn't work. This season has echoes under Graeme Jones and the board left it almost too late before sacking him. He won just 10 games from 37 and Edwards has just 8 from 42 in the 12 months from October 23/24 and that was when we returned to the Championship for the first time. 7 defeats from 12 games is how it stands right now, which is unacceptable considering half those games were avoidable losses or points dropped. As for the high press. Maybe it's time to change it, as that appears to be the reason why we have so many players out injured, which makes sense.
I don't get to Luton games these days, so I can only really comment about all the injuries, which is the real underlying problem for the Town I think. I've been following Luton since 1970 and I've never known anything like it. Whether it's because of this strong emphasis on pressing that players are being worked harder in training that at other clubs I don't know. Apart from losing players through injury, the knock on effect is not being able to rotate players who need a rest because there's a lack of options.
As for the racist abuse hurled at Elijah. Social media companies should be made accountable and then they'll actually do something about it. Twitter is dreadful under Musk, as racism on there is now unchecked and offensive posts are left up there, even after people have been jailed for them here in the UK. Madness.
No plan b ??? We don't even have a plan A lewis!!!
I didn’t want to be too mean
Clarke on 4 yellow cards as well so if plays Friday gets booked another suspension
Coventry were good all game and tbh, Town could have been on the end of a hammering against a side that are way better than their position the table says. Too complacent second half where Town were schooled.
Nathan Jones is not the answer to our problems !! - he is a bog standard average manager in league 1 - who even struggles in league 1! If you remember NJ also had poor in game substitutions - give RE until the next international break in my opinion
Literally got playoffs we us, average League 1 managers don’t do that
I think our defender are naieve and in experience, They need to be alert wear the opposition player is and send the ball in the opposite direction or pass team player.Daiki Hashioka specially he has scored 2 own goal and help opposition win the last game.
Agreed, Hashioka looks a bit weak/lightweight. Average at best.
Very dissapointing display, despite being 2-0 up never really looked comfortable, no control in midfield, Clark really looked anonymous for 90 mins, Krauss doesn't really look 100% but better than Clark, can't blame the defence too much, they tried but basically the ball just kept coming back and was only a matter time, that a mistake happened or one would get sent off has we had three on yellows. For the the life of me never understand why Chong is always the one that gets sub when Clark as offered nothing, Woodrow does nothing for me, never looks assured in the box, why not give Taylor a good 30mins in games like this. Luton are no good at 2-0 leads because they can't defend them, they would be better off coming out in the second half and tried to get a third, rather than trying protect what they had. Maybe I am being to harsh, maybe the twatford and sunderland game took it out of them, but coventry didn't look tired!! West Brom game now looks precarious with doughty and holmes out, hope Rob doesn't come out and dress it up because we offered absolutely nothing in the second half and once Coventry got their goal, there was only going to be one winner, best we could have hoped for was to hang on for a draw.
I wish people would be honest and admit plan B plan A or plan Z makes no difference, the truth is we lack quality players. We don't have good enough finishers, skilled enough dribblers, rounded enough midfielders or defenders. We have a good keeper and Alfie when he is on form. Then we have a string of league one and two players. We need a clear out and some more proven ball players and finishers who are a bit more zippy and un nerve defenders.
I disagree with that. We’ve got a top 10 squad that’s being restricted tactically.
@LewisWilliamsLTFC Agree. I think the squad is more than good enough for a top six finish with 90%+ fit to play.
@@NW-gj2lm Who in our current squad do you think any prem teams would want? And if they want any of them why haven't they come in for them?
Maybe top ten yes but most teams in the Championship could make some sort of claim to say the same. Tenth place to fifteenth could be barely any points difference. That's my whole point, so is that where we will stay forever and a day unless we have a disaster season and get relegated? If we went down Alfie, Menghi, Kaminski and Moses are the only candidates who could stay in Championship level clubs at the least. Morris and Elijah are the next stage down and could probably do so too. The rest would be at their true level. That squad last year with Barkley and Sambi only managed 25 points in the Prem, with them gone we are levels below. Who in this squad can switch play across the field to open up space, shoot from distance, take someone or two players on and score, dribble and lay off at the right time? Which one of our defenders has both skill and grit in equal measures? Who is our leader at the back? Edwards isn't on it in my opinion true but, with a new manager can you name the team the formation and the style that would unnerve any other team in the Championship and shut down attackers who can turn it on, keep hold of the ball and give a lesson in finishing like so many opponents have down to us this season? If its true that the levels between the Prem and the Championship are a wider and wider gap that means there is a type of player, often young and not injured, who is finding himself in the Championship who previously could have been a prem player. WE ARE NOT GETTING ANY OF THOSE PLAYERS. Other teams are.
@donner101 Premiership is a different question. No, as it stands now, I don't think the squad is strong to compete and avoid relegation. They would need to add 2/3 players of quality for that.
I wouldn't know if any Prem clubs have made enquiries/ offers for players over the summer, that's a closely guarded secret. But I would be amazed if 2 or 3 hadn't at least been enquired about but LTFC would have put a price on their heads which was probably too steep for the enquiring clubs.
I do think the players they have are good enough to gain promotion from Championship though. Morris, Adebayo, Chong, Brown all good enough in attack. Kraub, Nakamba, Baptiste and possibly Walsh all good enough in Mid. There's that guy coming in Jan as well, who could be an exciting prospect. Then Back line you have Burke, Mengi, Holmes, Walters, Doughty & McGuiness all good enough. Kaminski in goal, possibly the best shot stopper in league. It's just his distribution that's been lacking, although he seems to have been working on this area as he's been taking free kicks from own half. Then you have Moses who can play in a number of roles and is good enough. The rest of the squad Clark, Woodrow Mpanzu etc. You could argue aren't good enough or maybe more fairly, consistent. But they will still do a job in the odd game and make a difference.
Rob has to go he is inept and single minded
He is a lovely person but he is not good enough for the premiership or the championship bring back nathen jones
Even though he took us to the Premier League? 🤔
John Still got us out of non league we had to make the decision for the team
Recent reactions/posts sadly reflect our current society: you're either a success or a failure, you're great or you're rubbish, you're manager of the year or you're worthy of the sack; nothing in-between. The fact we managed to achieve 30 points last season despite punching well above our weight, twinned with the fact we had a serious amount of injuries, is massive credit of Rob Edwards, the staff and players, fans and all connected to the club. This season, we are struggling, so all the more reason to support and encourage Rob and the team to work through it. We outplay Watford and we're great again. Lose to Coventry and we're useless. Football, like life, is full of seasons of prosperity, struggle, highs and lows. To give Rob and the team lots of grace and support is sure to help them to turn our form around, even if it does take a lot longer than we would like. We're all human and we usually grow stronger through times of struggle. We've come so far in such a short space of time and we've been spoilt, to some extent, compared to most other clubs. In my view, the feeling of entitlement is not a good look and flip/flopping between managers rarely brings long term success. If we can get behind the staff through this rough patch, we will all be the stronger for it.
Recent reactions/posts sadly reflect our current society: you're either a success or a failure, you're great or you're rubbish, you're manager of the year or you're worthy of the sack; nothing in-between. The fact we managed to achieve 30 points last season despite punching well above our weight, twinned with the fact we had a serious amount of injuries, is massive credit of Rob Edwards, the staff and players, fans and all connected to the club. This season, we are struggling, so all the more reason to support and encourage Rob and the team to work through it. We outplay Watford and we're great again. Lose to Coventry and we're useless. Football, like life, is full of seasons of prosperity, struggle, highs and lows. To give Rob and the team lots of grace and support is sure to help them to turn our form around, even if it does take a lot longer than we would like. We're all human and we usually grow stronger through times of struggle. We've come so far in such a short space of time and we've been spoilt, to some extent, compared to most other clubs. In my view, the feeling of entitlement is not a good look and flip/flopping between managers rarely brings long term success. If we can get behind the staff through this rough patch, we will all be the stronger for it.
True, but Rob Edwards has already proved he can take a team up from the Championship.
You were steam rolled for the majority of the game and we should have won 5 or 6 2
I predicted that Luton would struggle with their old Wimbledon footie most teams will just read your predictable physical tactics
Morris is past the sell by date and you need a new manager and tactics ASAP
Don’t like the Dabo poster. But great result for us yesterday.