what's interesting is it works on both PMR and CP33! My CP33 only runs with slightly longer ammo! You are absolutely correct! Still got your magazine release and getting you speedloader now that I broke that "other" one that everyone else says works ... it works until it breaks! I got about 10 mags through mine. Sent it back, got a full refund. Now I can get yours! 😉
Came here to see how a video about a speed loader could be 16mins long... I do appreciate that you guys support the 3rd party market to improve the CP33, I look forward to owning one and upgrading it in the future.
I just got a 2nd Gen PMR30, well, took it out today and tried it out, strike One. Loaded 25 rounds, carefully, did not feed first round right off the bat, jammed 8 times in 25 rounds, non-feed failure. Came home and got to work releasing some drag. Mostly their black paint is the problem on slide surfaces, slide release near impossible to work, filed the top corner more round and that works fine now. Cleaned out the slide rail slots with a needle file, full of painted and something blistered in the paint, so now slide pulls back smoothly, was stiffer than a 3am nocturnal dream. Cleaned up top of magazine, bottom of lip that retains rounds to allow them to slide out of the magazine better, have not tried firing it yet, maybe tomorrow I'll run some rounds through it, waiting for the "nest" loader for anything over 8-10 rounds. Get above 20 rounds and they start to dent and difficult to load, doing 30 by hand, out of the question. One thing I have not addressed and not sure if needed, the magazine 'could' sit 2mm higher than the catch holds it at. Mainly the biggest issue is shoddy fit and finish, poor rough paint finish. Used a steel nail file to smooth and polish all contact surfaces. the top slide is real smooth now. Was extremely hard to pull back as it came. Loosened top block and only snugged down the 4 bolts. I consider it now only as a novelty fun gun, not dependable enough for critical carry and would not trust it as one. If my life depended on this, I would just run to begin with. Any more feed issues and I'll work out to get the magazine fully seated up the extra 2mm to attempt better feeding. My rating: half-ass manufacturing. Follow, up, couldn't resist further checking and inspection, so I pulled firing pin after writing this tonight and there was a puddle of ugly oil laying in its track, cleaned that, and emery clothed the pin, slides around in its channel so much better. These just need taken apart when you buy one and gone through and finish the fit and finish Kel-tec didn't bother doing.
The MCARBO loader is the only loader that works without damaging the rounds. Uplula, American Speedloader-forget it. They dent the shell. The MCARBO loader fixes all the loading issues.
I love how detailed and clear your videos are!!! Do they have those clear mags for the pmr30 cause it would sure make it easier to see if loaded right? I have the lula speedloader but it leaves dents on the shells. Does yours? Would you please make a video showing how and where to clean on the pmr30 and how and where to oil please!
The ammo choice IS super important. Armscor 22 would not load properly in the CP33. I think however it had much more to do with the less-pronounced rim. Loaded some copper-coated Aguila and it worked much nicer but had a much more pronounced rim.
Maybe just my CP33 but CCI Blazer standard velocity is the most reliable through my gun. The best hollow points that will run reliably are Cci Stingers or if you love .22 Plinkster Stangers also work great at least in my gun. Remington Golden totally suck through my pistol. Won't feed reliably. I've kept a log on what works and not. Most Federals will function ok if not hollow points. I just got the speed loader and hope it works better than the other ones I've tried.
Gotta love that super glue! As a kid, I used to hang drywall and my fingers would split like yours all the time. The fun part was when you reached in your screw pouch, every single time the sharp tip of one of the hundreds of screws would find itself into the "trying to heal" split. OUCH! Had we had known about super glue It would have saved us so much pain!
Strange question but did you cut your finger on the speed loader? If you were loading lefty it matches up perfectly......thks, just wanted to know what to avoid to having that happen on my trigger finger!!!!!!
An after thought --- maybe you can measure the length of your 22lr ammo with a caliper and post your measurements in your video info header. Think about it.
FYI - American Eagle ammo is Federal ammo. Soooo, you have three brands of Federal ammo. Why didn't you measure the length of the 22lr rounds with a caliper to show the real difference between all six types of 22lr ammo. Just saying that at home we can measure our own ammo to see how it compares and would pretty much be within 1/1000th inch of what you measured. Otherwise good video. I installed your spring set on my PMR30. It ran fine before ordering it, but when I tried to mount a red dot it wouldn't cycle anything. I installed your spring set and it all ran fine without the red dot this last weekend. I'll mount my red dot to see how your spring set performs with the added weight of the red dot. Over all I am pretty discouraged with the PMR 30. It is VERY inaccurate. I am doing well to get a 6 or 8 inch group with it at 15 yards. By comparison, I can get 1-3 inch groups with my Buckmarks at 25 yards. At this point I no longer have high hopes for the PMR30. It will likely find another owner. One last comment. I purchased a Maglula speed loader for the the PMR30 and it dents the cases as it loads the magazine. What the ******? I will probably give yours a try and then compare.
PMR-30 UPGRADES AND ACCESSORIES
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Well, that tutorial was excellent
I believe I'll be getting one of those speed loaders
I like to use the next round to help push the just-inserted round fully to the back of the magazine, it is helpful since I keep my fingernails short.
Thanks for the lesson on loading the CP33. Just picked one up today. I’m waiting for your Trigger Kit for the LCP Max.
what's interesting is it works on both PMR and CP33! My CP33 only runs with slightly longer ammo! You are absolutely correct! Still got your magazine release and getting you speedloader now that I broke that "other" one that everyone else says works ... it works until it breaks! I got about 10 mags through mine. Sent it back, got a full refund. Now I can get yours! 😉
Just bought mine!!! I was having a hell of a time loading my PMR30 mags and was just thinking "I NEED a speedloader for this!". Thanks!!
Awesome! Glad to hear it Brother. Thank you for your Support!
Excellent tutorial. Love your products!
Came here to see how a video about a speed loader could be 16mins long... I do appreciate that you guys support the 3rd party market to improve the CP33, I look forward to owning one and upgrading it in the future.
I just got a 2nd Gen PMR30, well, took it out today and tried it out, strike One. Loaded 25 rounds, carefully, did not feed first round right off the bat, jammed 8 times in 25 rounds, non-feed failure. Came home and got to work releasing some drag. Mostly their black paint is the problem on slide surfaces, slide release near impossible to work, filed the top corner more round and that works fine now. Cleaned out the slide rail slots with a needle file, full of painted and something blistered in the paint, so now slide pulls back smoothly, was stiffer than a 3am nocturnal dream. Cleaned up top of magazine, bottom of lip that retains rounds to allow them to slide out of the magazine better, have not tried firing it yet, maybe tomorrow I'll run some rounds through it, waiting for the "nest" loader for anything over 8-10 rounds. Get above 20 rounds and they start to dent and difficult to load, doing 30 by hand, out of the question. One thing I have not addressed and not sure if needed, the magazine 'could' sit 2mm higher than the catch holds it at. Mainly the biggest issue is shoddy fit and finish, poor rough paint finish. Used a steel nail file to smooth and polish all contact surfaces. the top slide is real smooth now. Was extremely hard to pull back as it came. Loosened top block and only snugged down the 4 bolts. I consider it now only as a novelty fun gun, not dependable enough for critical carry and would not trust it as one. If my life depended on this, I would just run to begin with. Any more feed issues and I'll work out to get the magazine fully seated up the extra 2mm to attempt better feeding. My rating: half-ass manufacturing.
Follow, up, couldn't resist further checking and inspection, so I pulled firing pin after writing this tonight and there was a puddle of ugly oil laying in its track, cleaned that, and emery clothed the pin, slides around in its channel so much better. These just need taken apart when you buy one and gone through and finish the fit and finish Kel-tec didn't bother doing.
The MCARBO loader is the only loader that works without damaging the rounds. Uplula, American Speedloader-forget it. They dent the shell. The MCARBO loader fixes all the loading issues.
I love how detailed and clear your videos are!!! Do they have those clear mags for the pmr30 cause it would sure make it easier to see if loaded right?
I have the lula speedloader but it leaves dents on the shells. Does yours?
Would you please make a video showing how and where to clean on the pmr30 and how and where to oil please!
Best part: a mag dump with Remington bulk (on sale) costs a little over a buck. 33rd mag dump for a BUCK!
Yes Sir! I like it. Mag dump for a Buck!
THANK YOU CHRIS !!!!!!!
I have the pmr,cmr & cp33,rule of thumb for me is 40 grain or higher in these at all times,i use the other grains i have in my henry & s&w m&p
Kel Tec should have saved themselves a lot of complaints had they threw the $2 speedloader in the box, very poor decision on their part. Great video.
The ammo choice IS super important. Armscor 22 would not load properly in the CP33. I think however it had much more to do with the less-pronounced rim. Loaded some copper-coated Aguila and it worked much nicer but had a much more pronounced rim.
Super glue those cuts.
Ill be buying a loader soon.
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Maybe just my CP33 but CCI Blazer standard velocity is the most reliable through my gun. The best hollow points that will run reliably are Cci Stingers or if you love .22 Plinkster Stangers also work great at least in my gun. Remington Golden totally suck through my pistol. Won't feed reliably. I've kept a log on what works and not. Most Federals will function ok if not hollow points. I just got the speed loader and hope it works better than the other ones I've tried.
Will this make PMR30 a jam-free feeding gun?
Gotta love that super glue! As a kid, I used to hang drywall and my fingers would split like yours all the time. The fun part was when you reached in your screw pouch, every single time the sharp tip of one of the hundreds of screws would find itself into the "trying to heal" split. OUCH! Had we had known about super glue It would have saved us so much pain!
My CMR30 really needs one. Just bought a great foregrip.
How many fingers ?
How about some videos on making the PMR30 a better, more reliable gun?
Strange question but did you cut your finger on the speed loader? If you were loading lefty it matches up perfectly......thks, just wanted to know what to avoid to having that happen on my trigger finger!!!!!!
No, it's not from the speed loader.
Ouch - that cut looks painful 😩
Do you have one that fits the p17 22lr
Not currently.
I can’t find the trigger or feed ramp to buy yet
Hey Brother, they are in production now. Should be ready in 3-4 weeks!
Whats the name of speed loader can we order it on Amazon
Great video!
How much is the loader ?
make one for glock 9mm mags at the same price...
An after thought --- maybe you can measure the length of your 22lr ammo with a caliper and post your measurements in your video info header. Think about it.
Roger that! Will do. Eventually will compile a list with specs.
The CP33 mags are very fragile, do not drop with any ammo in them, or without ammo for that matter.
We don't really care what your using handcreme for... but would it kill ya to put a band-aid on? lol
I don't know who was more angry. The techs that were sitting there while you were shooting, or the secretary on the other side of the wall.
It’s really not that bad in the tech room and everyone else is in the other side of the building.
Where can I buy one
FYI - American Eagle ammo is Federal ammo. Soooo, you have three brands of Federal ammo. Why didn't you measure the length of the 22lr rounds with a caliper to show the real difference between all six types of 22lr ammo. Just saying that at home we can measure our own ammo to see how it compares and would pretty much be within 1/1000th inch of what you measured. Otherwise good video. I installed your spring set on my PMR30. It ran fine before ordering it, but when I tried to mount a red dot it wouldn't cycle anything. I installed your spring set and it all ran fine without the red dot this last weekend. I'll mount my red dot to see how your spring set performs with the added weight of the red dot. Over all I am pretty discouraged with the PMR 30. It is VERY inaccurate. I am doing well to get a 6 or 8 inch group with it at 15 yards. By comparison, I can get 1-3 inch groups with my Buckmarks at 25 yards. At this point I no longer have high hopes for the PMR30. It will likely find another owner. One last comment. I purchased a Maglula speed loader for the the PMR30 and it dents the cases as it loads the magazine. What the ******? I will probably give yours a try and then compare.
I want one
Cut towards your buddy or else you get bloody... 🤣🤣
Black nitrile gloves folks.