No consumes, no engineering, Deep feral spec - classicdb.ch/?talent#0zLVhoZeMMsfbdtV I apologize if the music isn't your taste, hard to please everyone when it comes to music as everyone has different tastes. Hope you all enjoy. Link to my gear: sixtyupgrades.com/set/tLHSFYDm7A1zWFAmqEq8Am
While it is cool to see some feral action, it would have been much better to get a bg footage against pvp arms warriors and not bloodvine pve mages with 3k hp.
Yo this shit is incredible! Just got full T2.5 and trying to do stuff like this in pvp. What a blast! I can watch this over and over so good. Please keep making more videos. You make me so glad I came back and played druid. Nice job!
I started watching ur videos and went druid in classic 2019. 2023 returning to Classic Era realms as a Druid once again >:) went from 2019 to present day as Druid :D Much Love dude!!!
Ebbn, any chance you can do a masterclass video on Feral Druid pvp? I would love to know what gear to rock, strategies, matchups vs other classes, etc.
best way to say it. dont play feral, its not good in pvp - at all, its more like a retri pal, but its fun to play atleast in general grab r13 gear, with either aq20/aq40 drood mace (for the ap in shapes), don julio+ bwl rings, i use ony neck, skeleton off hand from ony (over the span of minute it deals around 2k dmg + interrupts traps etc) have 2 cloaks one with high armor (elementium cloak from BWL) other with more dps (w.e. really) on swap vs matchup, tidal charm (works perfectly against harder matchups) wristguards of stability, the zg quest belt (belt of preserved heads or smth) and you should be good. But you might aswell consider playing HOTW instead of deep feral, as it just gives you way more room to play against more difficult matchups, and in general survivability
In my experience the interesting talent you want is furor and combine that with a wolfshead helm. I personally rock a manual crowd pummeler(i have like 12 in my inventory) for the dummy attack speed increase. Theres a talent in balance that grants clearcasting state on meele attack, which is one way to get big boy backstab damage. Furor also helps provide rage for bear form in order to get that charge stun or frenzied regen to make the most of the situation. I’m not as good as this guy but i can pull my weight in big boy conflicts.
Ebbn, give some love to TH-cam algorithm. Don't upload your videos while the east coast is already sleeping. Publish them on Thursday mornings, you will see the difference.
I'll have full 2.5 after AQ this week (just waiting on an idol). I'd love to see how that feral build stacks up against shammies/priests though. I imagine that would be a super hard matchup.
Did the fury war bolt proc one thunder fury? Thunder fury are bears biggest weakness next to mace spec war. By-pass armor n slows auto atk speed. Only instant bear dmg atk is swipe!.!
This was great! Esfand probably thought he had an easy kill! Must suck when your guild throws you all that gear, is trash, and he still runs from you hahaha!!! Great video!
I'm leveling a druid myself and i was wondering if it is possible to actual pvp as feral, i guess got my answer!!! And now, i think i'm more motivated to actually level him... much obliged man, keep up the good work!
don't let the video fool you... I play feral full time and it's one of the worst PvP specs in the game. Look at every fight in this video... opener, rake, 2-3 point rip, shift out -> moonfire, bear -> charge and hope to interrupt ANY cast, bash ... it's literally every fight. Not to take away from the video, this is about as well as one could hope to do as deep feral PvP, but opening on drinking mages, and people running on mounts to AQ isn't the high-end PvP that other classes can achieve.
Would you replace the Claw of the Black Drake with a Blessed Qiraji Warhammer or Mace of Unending Life? Also what do you thing about replacing the Master Dragonslayer ring with a Might of Cenarius? Is it worth it in PvP?
Hey ebbn, nice vid. Always happy to see mages trying to polymorph a druid. :D Could you share what addon you're using to show enemy buffs and announcing your cooldowns? It's the scrolling text on top of your screen.
dont do it. just stay a rogue. The amount of work it takes to be a decent druid is hard then to be a Feral cat times that by 5. Then you only have ok dps even after all the work.
@@xXDevilsSpawnXx can rogs innervate a healer to save a wipe? can they emergency tank on a double trash pull? can a rogue taunt a stray add off a healer? can a rogue bomb a couple emergency heals on an off-tank, preventing a wipe? can a rogue battle rez a top dps seconds before c'thun goes vulnerable, allowing for a 1 phase kill? (these are literally all things I have done as a druid.) The answer is no - rogues stick their weapons into things - that's all they can do. Don't make the (common) mistake of reducing an entire player's contribution to a raid night to the DPS number next to their name on your Details! meters...
@roly poly panda Saying yes than saying the spec is fun doesn't mean that its good dps. He is asking can they do good dps in raids. So they are asking about what the number next to there name on Details is going to say. An like I said the effort, skill, and gear that to be a cat dps in raids is way higher than rogues for the dps you get. Also, everything you gave examples of is what it is like to be a DRUID. You can do all of that in any spec. As for Shedo, he's an ok druid and you can look at all his videos I don't think I saw him as the top dps. Is he in the top 5-10 ya for sure. But if you are wanting to DPS there are just other classes that do it WAY better with less effort.
Fucking awesome vid! You used that Scorpid to distract the guy so you could mana up. Genius Also that for a good Druid plauer, it's a LONG Battle against Paladins and other Druids.
Ebbn you should try the Classic Hardcore thing some streamers have been doing! Kargoz, tactics, and more been having a blast. Would love to see you rock a druid in it
Nice Video. Feral is cool but there were numerous times where you were chasing someone down and I could not help but think about how if you were resto or balance you could have just railroaded them with moonfire. Thats how feral always feels to me; like its a bait.
Awesome video! I've never seen you in deep feral before. I've been feral the whole time in classic and I have a few questions to ask (not really expecting a reply just conversational) Do you have top tier gear? I notice you using a lot of pounce and rake, usually when I gank I am just ravage+shred (if I start with 100 energy) and thats like a guaranteed 1500 damage, 2k+ if something crits. I stopped using pounce/rake once I got most of the BWL feral gear (Malf bulwark, DFT, Nef boots, etc) as it seemed the damage potential of shreds was just WAY higher and crit/ap both started getting nice and high. However as far as ferals go I'm geared af. my pvp gear has 1390AP, 21.5% crit and 4600hp in cat form along with 4 piece PVP set for move speed =p. I like how you weave in moonfire in between shifting, I don't do that often enough. It's not a ton of damage but it helps! Sometimes I'm too close to oom so I'd rather have one more shift than another moonfire. Nice content bb keep making silithus safe from marauding, stinky alliance
If you see in the video at the start he's in more cat gear then anything then towards then end you see more t2 on him. Either he switched specs or he was running into mana issues. As for the dot combo, it was mostly to get the mages to blink so they then can sit in a bash later cause you to know blink is on cd. The burst route is good too but can be shut down by other means as to where dot keep going even while you're cc'd.
@@xXDevilsSpawnXx Blinking away from Pounce stun is not the way to go but I see your point. Any good mage should never blink when they see pounce. Vs a druid you have to wait for bash or even warstomp depending on whats going on
It first I was happy because I saw Shred, Ravage and even Ferocious Bite used, which kinda represent Feral for me, but soon it turned into just bleed openers, Moonfire and Bear, and there it lost the charm.
He needs more hybrid gear, full feral outfit doesn't have the intellect to support power shifting and healing yourself in fights that don't end in the opener. I hope he makes another video when he gets full 5/5 tier 2.5. His previous video about hybrid gear gave me the plan to get 4/8 0.5, 4/5 2.5, 3/3 aq20 set for MAXIMUM HYBRID. Keep a 6k mana pool with 200 Spellpower/Healing, 22% melee crit, and 976 AP in cat form. Toss in a ZHC if you like since there aren't any hybrid trinkets for a slappin Rejuv/Regrowth/Moonfire, or an Earthstrike for a juicy opener.
You need to link your gear because it's clearly high stats 🤣 not every little feral lion can pull this off as good as you did. Good job showing we can DPS just as good as any class. (And I really like the music. Maybe a little old skool P.O.D next time 😉)
You were lucky those guys were bad in pvp and they didnt use Lips, Faps, engin consums. Feral is good in fair duels outdoors. Indoors with the opponent having all tools we are easy pray for the same level of skills.
In many of these duels the "outdoor tools" weren't used. Simply cat form dash and bear feral charge to maintain distance. Nature's grasp is useless versus mage/warlock and he doesn't use it vs the hunter's pet because the hunter is asleep at the wheel and doesn't tell it to attack!
No consumes, no engineering, Deep feral spec - classicdb.ch/?talent#0zLVhoZeMMsfbdtV I apologize if the music isn't your taste, hard to please everyone when it comes to music as everyone has different tastes. Hope you all enjoy. Link to my gear: sixtyupgrades.com/set/tLHSFYDm7A1zWFAmqEq8Am
Not all of the Music tracks are not my taste but don't mind it. Nice video
I like the music. I actually want to know what was the one after the intermission.
@@Milocinia If you mean the one after benny hill theme song then that is Scars - I prevail I actually like that song .
this video has singlehandedly returned my enthusiasm in leveling my druid
This cracks me up every time when facerolling mages so used to poly and run that they trying to poly druid. :D
ye thats so funny, not like mages have zero chance against druids, there is nothing for mage to do, unless youre specced for pom pyro
This is what happens when you pay to have your char boosted in SM/Mara/ZG and don't learn the basics.
sadly it still makes sense to poly a druid, because if he is shapeshifting, he waste big amount of mana... but pshh... ^.^
@@m4nuz assuming druid in caster's form, yeah. But so many mages trying to poly a kitty =^_^=
While it is cool to see some feral action, it would have been much better to get a bg footage against pvp arms warriors and not bloodvine pve mages with 3k hp.
Yo this shit is incredible! Just got full T2.5 and trying to do stuff like this in pvp. What a blast! I can watch this over and over so good. Please keep making more videos. You make me so glad I came back and played druid. Nice job!
You can see that the first mage was a true classic player cause he wanted to sheep a druid in bear form xD
I started watching ur videos and went druid in classic 2019. 2023 returning to Classic Era realms as a Druid once again >:) went from 2019 to present day as Druid :D Much Love dude!!!
Ebbn, any chance you can do a masterclass video on Feral Druid pvp? I would love to know what gear to rock, strategies, matchups vs other classes, etc.
best way to say it. dont play feral, its not good in pvp - at all, its more like a retri pal, but its fun to play atleast
in general grab r13 gear, with either aq20/aq40 drood mace (for the ap in shapes), don julio+ bwl rings, i use ony neck, skeleton off hand from ony (over the span of minute it deals around 2k dmg + interrupts traps etc) have 2 cloaks one with high armor (elementium cloak from BWL) other with more dps (w.e. really) on swap vs matchup, tidal charm (works perfectly against harder matchups) wristguards of stability, the zg quest belt (belt of preserved heads or smth) and you should be good. But you might aswell consider playing HOTW instead of deep feral, as it just gives you way more room to play against more difficult matchups, and in general survivability
@@arancism8787 shut up
In my experience the interesting talent you want is furor and combine that with a wolfshead helm. I personally rock a manual crowd pummeler(i have like 12 in my inventory) for the dummy attack speed increase.
Theres a talent in balance that grants clearcasting state on meele attack, which is one way to get big boy backstab damage.
Furor also helps provide rage for bear form in order to get that charge stun or frenzied regen to make the most of the situation.
I’m not as good as this guy but i can pull my weight in big boy conflicts.
@@montanafreedomhomestead3949 dude really set it’s bad at PvP and like Ret at the same time lmao
Sick playlist, works so well with the video!
Damn dude what a playlist, mad video, much love
Lots of mad comments but I can understand why. Killing a druid takes 10 years, and dying by a druid also takes 10 years.
Ebbn, give some love to TH-cam algorithm. Don't upload your videos while the east coast is already sleeping. Publish them on Thursday mornings, you will see the difference.
Being Horde Druid is so much easier. Guaranteed Regrowth on any spec, I've almost given up on Bash because of Orcs.
Orcs are what I like to call the Anti-Paladin race
This is why we love classic, pvp montage with metal in the background (although it is Pop Evil I will let it go). Amazing. Love the content Ebbnflow.
Heh, metal
that opening stunlock with the bear charge had me like POGGERS
My man here outplayed both Esfand and that lock 😂 1:21
What's the nameplate addon you use? Looks very tidy.
What does your talent build look like in this video? Do you have a link by any chance please
Also, man, finally waiting so long for kind of the videos I came here for! Totally worth waiting! Moar pvp vids!
this video positively reeks of tradition.
leveling a druid for the first time and have a little trouble in pvp. this helps a ton
Hey man i got inspired by your videos to give druid a try first time and man i love this class its for sure my best choice
Would have been nice to see your build/gear...
This is a dirty filthy horde video, but dam using Waking the Lions is the most perfect song for a feral druid pvp video.
May I ask what gear your using?
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2:15 real homie shit. Dope vid
Fresh wotlk classic hype!!👽
I'll have full 2.5 after AQ this week (just waiting on an idol). I'd love to see how that feral build stacks up against shammies/priests though. I imagine that would be a super hard matchup.
Awesome video man, hats off!
Awsome vid! 1 word... Brutal.
Did the fury war bolt proc one thunder fury? Thunder fury are bears biggest weakness next to mace spec war. By-pass armor n slows auto atk speed. Only instant bear dmg atk is swipe!.!
When ADTR came on I was like oh hell yeah!
This was great! Esfand probably thought he had an easy kill! Must suck when your guild throws you all that gear, is trash, and he still runs from you hahaha!!! Great video!
Love to see some pvp content :)
Wuwi love the boomchicken!!!! I'm a constant lurker
can you tell me what nameplate addon your using? looks like tidy plates but cant seem to find that for classic. Thank you!
u made me start playing again after i quit ur the sickest ebbn
How did you get UI where it shows how much projected heals you have coming off your HoTs?
I'm leveling a druid myself and i was wondering if it is possible to actual pvp as feral, i guess got my answer!!! And now, i think i'm more motivated to actually level him... much obliged man, keep up the good work!
You won't be able to do this without bis gear - so at level 60 you will do fluff damage and die always.
don't let the video fool you... I play feral full time and it's one of the worst PvP specs in the game. Look at every fight in this video... opener, rake, 2-3 point rip, shift out -> moonfire, bear -> charge and hope to interrupt ANY cast, bash ... it's literally every fight. Not to take away from the video, this is about as well as one could hope to do as deep feral PvP, but opening on drinking mages, and people running on mounts to AQ isn't the high-end PvP that other classes can achieve.
Yeah deep feral isnt really that great. If you pvp as druid you have many other specs that will do much better.
@@Ebbnflow like running around with moonfire, thats literally it
Nice vid ! may I ask what addons you're using ?
Would you replace the Claw of the Black Drake with a Blessed Qiraji Warhammer or Mace of Unending Life? Also what do you thing about replacing the Master Dragonslayer ring with a Might of Cenarius? Is it worth it in PvP?
Name of first song?
Awesome video! Not showing gear? Please do next feral vid👍🏿
Awesome some feral love :) Any chance you could show us the armor you are using?
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Appreciate it 😄😄
What was the name of the First song used in the intro. Love the thumpy jungle vibes
What's the combo point tracker over their nameplate?
Hey ebbn, nice vid. Always happy to see mages trying to polymorph a druid. :D
Could you share what addon you're using to show enemy buffs and announcing your cooldowns? It's the scrolling text on top of your screen.
Its called miks scrolling battle text
lol was that esfand for real? nice man
Finally a druid pvp video that isn't "look at how good I am at running away"
but druid is extremly weak and is only way how to win. Warr kill you on two swings look in video almost kill him in bear
@@Matrox9999 what video did you watch the warriors got fuckin obliterated while he had 70% + hp
@@Matrox9999 Druid isn’t weak lol
I am thinking about swapping over to Druid from Rogue (I am level 21 rn). Can you DPS as Feral in raids? Looks like a lot of fun.
dont do it. just stay a rogue. The amount of work it takes to be a decent druid is hard then to be a Feral cat times that by 5. Then you only have ok dps even after all the work.
YES! Feral DPS is the most fun in classic WoW (it's not close IMO) - check out Shedo's cat dps videos to learn how to become a kitty :3
@@xXDevilsSpawnXx can rogs innervate a healer to save a wipe? can they emergency tank on a double trash pull? can a rogue taunt a stray add off a healer? can a rogue bomb a couple emergency heals on an off-tank, preventing a wipe? can a rogue battle rez a top dps seconds before c'thun goes vulnerable, allowing for a 1 phase kill? (these are literally all things I have done as a druid.) The answer is no - rogues stick their weapons into things - that's all they can do. Don't make the (common) mistake of reducing an entire player's contribution to a raid night to the DPS number next to their name on your Details! meters...
@roly poly panda Saying yes than saying the spec is fun doesn't mean that its good dps. He is asking can they do good dps in raids. So they are asking about what the number next to there name on Details is going to say. An like I said the effort, skill, and gear that to be a cat dps in raids is way higher than rogues for the dps you get. Also, everything you gave examples of is what it is like to be a DRUID. You can do all of that in any spec. As for Shedo, he's an ok druid and you can look at all his videos I don't think I saw him as the top dps. Is he in the top 5-10 ya for sure. But if you are wanting to DPS there are just other classes that do it WAY better with less effort.
short answer: NO.
No real enemy boring if you only fight pve bobs and noobs that don't even fight back an just run
what items did you use in this build?
Fucking awesome vid!
You used that Scorpid to distract the guy so you could mana up. Genius
Also that for a good Druid plauer, it's a LONG Battle against Paladins and other Druids.
Ebbn you should try the Classic Hardcore thing some streamers have been doing! Kargoz, tactics, and more been having a blast. Would love to see you rock a druid in it
I have footage of a warrior Ive been slowly leveling without using weapons.
@@Ebbnflow wait..a warrior without weapons? WTF LOL your insane man
Benny hill is the pally anthem
Nice Video. Feral is cool but there were numerous times where you were chasing someone down and I could not help but think about how if you were resto or balance you could have just railroaded them with moonfire. Thats how feral always feels to me; like its a bait.
Yeah, definitely understand that
2:17 WTF that polymorf ?
What name plate do you use?
This makes me so fkin happy leveling a druid
i really liked the music and game play
Great clips great music 10/10, no notes.
Do you have an Ebbnflow Discord?
Actual beast mode
Awesome video! I've never seen you in deep feral before. I've been feral the whole time in classic and I have a few questions to ask (not really expecting a reply just conversational)
Do you have top tier gear? I notice you using a lot of pounce and rake, usually when I gank I am just ravage+shred (if I start with 100 energy) and thats like a guaranteed 1500 damage, 2k+ if something crits. I stopped using pounce/rake once I got most of the BWL feral gear (Malf bulwark, DFT, Nef boots, etc) as it seemed the damage potential of shreds was just WAY higher and crit/ap both started getting nice and high. However as far as ferals go I'm geared af. my pvp gear has 1390AP, 21.5% crit and 4600hp in cat form along with 4 piece PVP set for move speed =p.
I like how you weave in moonfire in between shifting, I don't do that often enough. It's not a ton of damage but it helps! Sometimes I'm too close to oom so I'd rather have one more shift than another moonfire.
Nice content bb keep making silithus safe from marauding, stinky alliance
If you see in the video at the start he's in more cat gear then anything then towards then end you see more t2 on him. Either he switched specs or he was running into mana issues. As for the dot combo, it was mostly to get the mages to blink so they then can sit in a bash later cause you to know blink is on cd. The burst route is good too but can be shut down by other means as to where dot keep going even while you're cc'd.
@@xXDevilsSpawnXx Blinking away from Pounce stun is not the way to go but I see your point. Any good mage should never blink when they see pounce. Vs a druid you have to wait for bash or even warstomp depending on whats going on
Dude !!!! Dope as video man
the benny hill music segment had me laughing
Could you share your gear? Do you use the pvp set?
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@@Ebbnflow can you share the exact talent build you have please it is not showing up on the link, much appreciated!
BGs?
What server are u playing on
This is Faerlina
What your addon
addon?
The mages he kills try to poly a bear i mean come on bro....
This is one angry cat xD
Macros?
The beast!
That Danheim Ulfednar in the beginning tho
I prevail, Awesome
It first I was happy because I saw Shred, Ravage and even Ferocious Bite used, which kinda represent Feral for me, but soon it turned into just bleed openers, Moonfire and Bear, and there it lost the charm.
He needs more hybrid gear, full feral outfit doesn't have the intellect to support power shifting and healing yourself in fights that don't end in the opener.
I hope he makes another video when he gets full 5/5 tier 2.5. His previous video about hybrid gear gave me the plan to get 4/8 0.5, 4/5 2.5, 3/3 aq20 set for MAXIMUM HYBRID. Keep a 6k mana pool with 200 Spellpower/Healing, 22% melee crit, and 976 AP in cat form.
Toss in a ZHC if you like since there aren't any hybrid trinkets for a slappin Rejuv/Regrowth/Moonfire, or an Earthstrike for a juicy opener.
Video makes me feel good. My feral is 53 and is not far behind you dps wise. I got ganked the other day by a 58 rogue and shit on him so hard.
Can feral win 1v1tournament😊?
Feral for life
Doesn’t seem like you crit often even with the buff sick Druid tho
OMG a thunderfury on a Pal WTF
power of kitteh
Dammit Ebbn, I got so wrapped up watching you fighting the same idiots I do near Cenarion Hold that I missed my WSG queue...
You need to link your gear because it's clearly high stats 🤣 not every little feral lion can pull this off as good as you did. Good job showing we can DPS just as good as any class.
(And I really like the music. Maybe a little old skool P.O.D next time 😉)
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@@Ebbnflow Thank you sooo much 😊 really helpful!
Lmfao. That poor little gnome mage. 😂
BRB, leveling my Druid
what is your gear?
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!gear !talents
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Please list your gear.
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I never saw a dps feral in classic since I quit Dec 19'
that is sad
Love it!!!
bro!!I need that platenames
Doses any of thé victim of this mad man even know that you coud get woop that fast by a feral in classic WOW ?
U make me wana lvl up a druid 😆
You are a beast! 😁
Pun intended, obviously!
Nice!!
Lol at 1:04
You were lucky those guys were bad in pvp and they didnt use Lips, Faps, engin consums.
Feral is good in fair duels outdoors.
Indoors with the opponent having all tools we are easy pray for the same level of skills.
In many of these duels the "outdoor tools" weren't used. Simply cat form dash and bear feral charge to maintain distance. Nature's grasp is useless versus mage/warlock and he doesn't use it vs the hunter's pet because the hunter is asleep at the wheel and doesn't tell it to attack!
Finally im not alone in deep feral spec lol, someone trying this spec too xD
Get yourself some powershift macros xD