That being said even though it’s a good catchphrase. Maybe saying it to much can make you sound repetitive. That being said first time I watched a video by you and I really liked it. That being said I’m prob going to subscribe! That being said I think I over killed the joke.
Thing is, I started classic leveling a priest and I got bored so quickly. Not bored because of the gameplay of classic, bored because I wasn't looking forward to getting higher levels in a way, like I didn't feel right playing what is the best healer class on classic. I switched to a druid and immediately felt happier. I don't care if I won't be the best healer for pvp or pve, I'm enjoying my time on classic now and that's all that matters.
I find druid enjoyable because its not the best at one thing. I think thats the point of the class. Versatility. I love being able to get a slice of mage or warrior or rogue. So its fair its not top tier in those categories. I plan on specing hybrid with a concentration feral because you can still adequately heal. I'm excited to learn how to really play this class to its fullest. My only salty note is that druids dont get a regular revive and that sucks ass.
Druid was my "first love" in WoW, TBC specifically. When leveling, I loved being cat in 5-mans (up until I got to Outlands)... I could emergency tank, emergency heal, combat rez, innervate. I was a panic button. In WSG I found my niche as a flag carrier. But more than all that, I loved the feel of the class. The fact that I felt like 4 classes condensed into one. The flexibility I bought to a group. The ability to pick my own fights in world PvP. The feeling of smoothness compared to other, clunky feeling classes. The entire fantasy - and in-game mechanics - of shapeshifting. The feel and flavor of our spells. The unspoken Druid Code, still a thing at the time. And of course, Moonglade... A sanctuary for Tauren and Night Elves alike (except for during the Lunar Festival... UGH at the people desecrating our grove), a place that reminded me that I'm more than a druid of the Horde... Turn back? No way! Sure I'll have other classes... But I am a Druid at heart, and simply that warm sensation of homecoming when my newly born Tauren draws energy from the Earth upon his first cast of Wrath cannot be replicated by any other class. Winds be at your back, friends :)
I started also as a druid in BC. I never topped the healing or dps meters but I didn't care. It was so fun. Running faster, versatile, what more do you want?
I was actually killed at Moonglade by a horde Druid, I think they realized they could one-shot me and went for it. Not all druids accept the code I suppose.
Yeah man. No point investing hundreds of hours into a class if it doesn't resonate with you. Especially in classic, I'd say play whatever class/race combination appeals to you.
@@MrEverisforever the problem with that answer is... that requires people who aren't the druid to suck. Druids are okay with lesser gear, but the main problem in PVP is that in order to use all their tricks, you need to switch forms. Which costs mana, a lot of mana. It's the real big hindrance to druids in pvp even if you disregard the atrocious scaling problem druids have. So a twink rogue/warrior/warlock will have much better scaling with gear.
"Just because you're not topping meters doesn't mean you're useless" This one sentence is what the WoW community has failed to understand, and why Blizzard abandoned the concept of "support" as a fourth role early on. But then I'll be using my druid mostly for farming and jobs anyway, so I won't really care about meters too much.
Druid doesnt even have good support abilities though. Battle ress is weak af and innervate just gives mana. The content is easier than on private servers so people will only want damage increases, not defensive shit. If people get to choose then druid is never the choice.
@@puppe213 'Innervate just gives mana' Bruh, the amount of time's I've saved healers/dps if they fucked up by shifting out and healing/manaing them... If you're not planning on being in a top tier Guild of nolifers farming MC every day then druid is a great choice if you want to play it.
@@puppe213 the druid has the most support abilities, and the best buffs. (EDIT: Okay I think the shaman and paladin actually have the druid beat in amount of support abilities.) Yeah they all needed to be improved, in fact if you want to see a prime example of what could have been, check out Lord of the Rings' Captain class. My point was that instead of taking what the druid had in support and making the whole class, or at least spec, about that, they ditched the idea.
Paladin was my main alllll wayyy to Cataclysm... And Paladin have a lot of fun WITH A LOT OF PAIN!! PvP will be your pain!! Priests/warlock and mages that is a pain! Mana burn/mana drain/ and CC all the time. You can cast heal ONLY when you stay. Holy Shock once 30 sec that is a joke. But if you are correct spec, rogues and warriors are totally not a problem. You will be always soo slow, because Paladin is the most static class in vanilla. But you have a lot abilities to escape CC. With HUUUGE CD )) So, yes enjoy Paladin class. That is a good class. Many ppl are thinking that is very simple class. I'm totally not agree with that! ))
I'm pretty sure holy paladins are OP once you get critical strike gear. They never run oom cause they just crit with flash of light Buffs are annoying .
Ebbnflow: Druids are a bad choice, everything else is better than them and you need to avoid this class. ... but don't let me discourage you, have fun playing it. Me: umm...
The most discouraging part is druids will get relatively weaker and weaker with every new phase. Whats the point of playing? In 2005 people atleast could hope for class balance improvements. But now we know what future is coming.
Because I play to have fun, not be the absolute best class. Even if Druids were outright told “hey we don’t like your class, you’re getting zero attention” I’d still play one. The fact is, Druids are just so damn fun
@@JELKEK a piece of gear that is not related to any gear set. In this context, a piece of gear no other class needs for raiding but is a nice addition for a druid. For example the druid tanking pieces in aq40 or some random items in bwl. Alot of shit noone uses/wants is usefull to a druid, in one way or another in most cases in pvp
that has been the plan of all Druid main's since the survey shows more people picking druids than expected. ;D but I dont choose druid because They seem strong, I choose druid because I like The druid fantasy. as such I would try to push my skills to make Druid Shine above the rest. (and if I feel the need to be an OP druid I can jump on retail for a bit ;;;D)
Druids are strong in the variety of abilities they have, more than any other class in the game It's not for everybody, and it's not easy But goddam is it fun ;)
i first started playing druid a few weeks before TBC and i fell in love with the class rolling druid in each expansion and will be playing it in classic.
I have played a druid since Vanilla... and the expectation I have is to play Resto yet again. It's a comfortable role and one I will happily slip back into once again. We're a solid base class and a fun one. It will be fun to get back into Molten Core once again. I miss the old Healing Touch healing approach - never felt right to be a rejuve HOT machine.
I’ve only played wow since TBC and always as a Druid. Being a hots healing monster that always topped the meters is all I’ve ever known. I’m excited for the Healing Touch challenge and curious about my beloved class pre-TBC.
When I started thinking what class I wanted to play in classic, I picked rogue first since I wanted to do some stealthy shenanigans. I felt like I will be doing one and the same thing over and over again. When I thought what are my other options druids came up. Back in vanilla I played shaman and then paladin and I remember that I played them just because of their ability to have answer to every situation. This is also why I picked druid now. People are too obsessed with being "top" at the dps/hps meters with classes which are not supposed to. In PVE you can't utilize all your toolkit and you will never be as useful as other classes who are able to. In PVP on other hand, druids are monsters if you know what you are doing. You are never a healer only, you are never a dps only, you are never a tank only. You are all at once. It requires incredible decision-making to be a good druid and this is why I know I will love playing druid. Also druids are always the one who get their epic sets first. Good luck rolling on that ring of spellpower with another 12 mages and 8 warlocks.
Agree but understand this. I only want one classic character. If/when BC/wrath comes out, I want to play druid. Druid now is both an investment and a challenge. Also, mailboxes aren't going to dance themselves.
I want a druid for tbc, but this is vanilla. Do I level one now to be ready for when tbc comes, or do I just hold off in case the tbc servers are fresh restarts lol
You dont need to do anything not is anything required, i havent seen a single guild that bans balance or feral druids, no one cares. Even apes have a balance druid, i guess they suck too?
Hey Ebbn I noticed you a said the healing coefficient is different in classic than the private servers. Is there a link you can provide that breaks down the math? I am worried my preparations may be considering the Private servers healing coefficient. Thanks man keep up the great videos!!
I watch your video's just in case there is any 100% NEEDED information. But for the most part, I'm going to play druid knowing fully that they have many ups and downs, I'm going to make up my own spec and figure out play styles for myself. Trial and error is just more fun than everybody immediately going for MLG optimal nolifer minmax builds.
Druid is one of those classes that I personally would never play, but I'm always glad to see at least one of them in my group. They provide some pretty unique utility tools that other classes don't have. Even a bad druid can still provide buffs and utility tools that other classes don't have access to.
I agree ebn. People are wanting to play a class they think they remember from 15 years ago. I am playing a class i rarely played through wow to make my classic experience good. Thank you for your content.
There might be very few druids, but this also means the demand is high, druids arent useless regardless what people say/think. Im sticking to druid, Less druids > im more unique> More items for me in raids
Ebbn, love you giving us both the real good and the real bad up front. In my case, I stick with my decision going resto druid and looking forward to fighting/healing/supporting my way out of that clear underdog role :)
I just hit 50 with my druid. Hearing these things are discouraging; however, being able to tank/heal/dps anytime I feel like it is still pretty awesome.
Thanks for the real talk ebn. Im going to play a drood anyways. I like to be outside in the world, questing, doing wpvp and skilling professions. No need to be the best in terms of damage/healing. Im going to be the best in Versatility (and the best cook on my server, flooding the AH with nightfin soup!)
During naxx I was the only druid in a horde 40 man. You can imagine the amount of gold I burned every raid night buffing 8 group with gift of the wild after every wipe. I could not sustain it, even though I had a geared lock to farm with. When I asked for some compensation given nobody else wanted to play druid I was labelled a whiner.
@@blackyvertigo so your guild just kept wiping a hundred times every week instead of getting a better gear and/or tactics first? Wow. Still, its not a druid class problem, just a shitty guild. Be sure everyone else burned just as much gold as you were.
This can be applied to all classes. This is WoW Classic. All classes are amazing in situations and absolutely horrible in others and will make you want to reroll. Druids, however, are the jack of all trades and useful in most all encounters while useless in very little.
@@Jkg71 fact that mages are popular* and i can't blame them, they ranged, have good cc, damage, crazy aoe, mana regen, a shield as well as an invincibility, teleport, can reset all cds and basically everything short of the best armor and healing
Ill be honest, you've not said anything i didn't already expect. My interest in the druid is for its world PvP potential, particularly with an NS/moonglow or moonfury build. Ive been practicing what i can on the private servers and its clear this class has a HUGE learning curve. I don't mind healing, im quite contempt with it. Im really not sure how well i will do as a druid in PvP, it all feels quite daunting but i understand what i need to do and how to approach certain situations, i just need to apply it and practice applying it. Ive already won some duel though ive lost many too. Hopefully im making the right decision to main a druid.
Still going moonkin despite the negative aspects. I'll be doing all I can to negate the whole non-viable status for that spec. I want to range dps, but play a druid. For me it's the only reason I want to even play WoW. The play style it self is more up my alley than going lock or mage. I know it's an uphill battle, but that too is part of the fun.
The majority of players already avoid druids :p I see what your trying to do...more druid gear for yourself...ha wont stop me from becoming worlds worst druid in classic
One annoying thing when playing to your full potential as a hybrid class, that I've experienced on private servers, is that you could get told to "stick to your role". For example I was tanking an instance, but in between pulls I was throwing off heals (or shifthing out in combat to ns+heal someone getting rly low) to save the healer's mana - and the healer got pissed because he felt obsolete ^^ And yes, I was keeping aggro and staying alive. The healer explicitly told me that it annoyed him that I took his role... Same thing could happen if you are in a group as a healer and you go cat or bear to boost dps or pick up a loose mob/interrupt some crucial spell (even if you are keeping everyone alive, staying low on threat and conserving mana, and basically just making the run smoother).
hunters are also good 'when played right' there are a million bad hunters though and few bad druids, so even being a bad druid makes you more valuable than most
Nope. If you're a bad druid then you are 100% worthless. Balance and Feral DPS are both almost worthless. Especially on Horde where Feral can't benefit from windfury so you would max have 1 in a raid usually and hopefully none. In fact really hardcore raid comps literally have 1 -2 druids and both of them are main Resto.
@@crabmilk360 No dude they DO NOT benefit from windfury. Windfury affects your weapon and druids do not deal damage with their weapon? The fact that you don't know that means you either don't play druid or are not a good druid player. You ever wonder why a feral Dps's best weapon is level 34 blue in manual crowd pummeler???
Dennis Wallace A bad Druid is free HK, and pretty useless in PvE (or at least, easily replaceable). Even a shit Hunter can spam viper sting, wing clip, scatter shot and put traps this and there while getting focused in PvP. Mails and larger HP pool along with CCs/snares/slows make Hunters a quite forgiving class compared to the rest, which is literally the opposite of Druids. A Druid who isn’t in bear form is as durable as a rogue without CDs - and not being in bear form or at the right place at the right moment is an extremely easy mistake to make. Druids are the least forgiving class in Classic, and are overall harsh.
Dude all the positivity you had in previous videos went down the zink in this one.. As a class that can play every singel role shouldn't be topping meters! We can play anything for peep sake, now that's amazing my friend!
It’s funny, because in the downer feeling time of this video everything Ebbn says, and is explaining is exactly what makes the druid and it’s exactly why I’ve played one for over a decade and have main’d one in vanilla for four years now and will continue to play it as my main. I absolutely love the class.
Thing i like about druids is that its the one hybrid spec that actually has to be played as a hybrid. Even if you are specced out into feral you still need to pop out of feral forms to use offensive and defensive spells. Its so versatile. The main thing that stops me from levelling one as a healer alt is its lack of an out of combat rez. It really should have one with combat rez on its long cooldown being its unique gimmick. Much like how shammies get to rez themselves on a cooldown for their unique gimmick but still have a normal out of combat rez.
@@connor654 what the bear tank is there for is a threat tank. they can produce much high tps than a warrior so those bosses that are dps races or bosses with adds at start. they are amazing at being 1st kill target tanks. and that warrior needs gear to offtank. which is being eaten up by multiple other plate tanks. that bear tank will be easy to gear up for a guild and make the whole raid as a whole better geared and give more utility since they have innervate and a brez..
One of the best druid youtubers for classic out there! Give him more likes guys! Mature, well structured scripts, good and solid info. What else do you need? I m gonna main a druid for classic just as I did back then. I ve suffered all the bad itemisation, bad talent trees before the druid patch, the pvp grind to have some decent gear, the horrible stigma, all the harsh behaviour against us to my skin. So why do it again? Simple answer is nostalgia, uniqueness, versatility and having a class that is not a one button spec. Keep up the good work Eb! Quick question: I m finding mixed info about professions. I m going for the SHotM enchanting trinket. So I ve decided to go skin/ench and drop ench when I finally create the trinket. Taladril and some other people tell me not to bother with enchanting while leveling and power-level when I hit 60. I m thinking all the items I can disenchant while leveling and that it will save me a lot of gold and mats in the long run. What are your thoughts?
Thank you for the "harsh" truth, but I am still determined to carve my own path and become a successful druid once more as I have been throughout nearly the entire WoW lifespan :) I was never looking to top meters, but rather to enjoy the special playstyle, flexibility and class fantasy druid offers. In addition I have found my home in a wonderful guild that welcomes so called "memespecs" and casual play, so that will also not be an issue should I choose to go bear/cat/moonkin instead of the typical resto healer role.
Good video. Harsh at times, but critical. I like that you didn't sugar coat it, but gave a realistic perspective. I've been maining druid almost exclusively since late wrath, but there are distinct reasons why I found it less appealing early on. You hit them here very well. I love the class, but in Classic you need to outperform others to break even. Which is do-able, but is not for everyone. Nice video
Reasons for Ferals in raids: 1. You can buff a melee party in raid with +3% crit. 2. You can Off-Tank, but play a Rogue-like role for DPS. This allows you to slot them as a Rogue for raid comp, but get an OT for a fight like the Four Horsemen. 3. Druid OTs do not take set items and armor drops from Warriors, allowing a raid to gear Warrior MT and OTs faster. 4. Druid OTs do not take set items from Rogues, allowing a raid to gear their Rogues more quickly. 5. Bear Druids have excellent single-target threat. It is reputed to be the #1 single-target threat generating class. In an OT role, this allows for their mob to be burned down quickly, minimizing stress on the raid. 6. Any Druid can shift from an OT or Melee DPS role to raid healing and decursing, allowing them to change roles to fit the needs of the raid, at any time. 7. By having a Feral, you can get both the Leader of the Pact (For a group) and Mark of the Wild. There is no need in a raid for Druids to fill a Resto role, as healing and decursing can be fully performed by Shamans and Paladins, so the raid can benefit from these buffs, while gaining an OT. Essentially, your one Druid doesn't have to just be a less-than-optimal healer - they can be an excellent OT. This also allows more of your Warriors to stick to DPS. 8. A Feral can perform any function that is needed of a Resto, in a raid. This allows you to slot them as raid healer/decurser, but use them as a tank in a particular fight.
Leader of the Pack applies to the party and not the entire raid, but everything else is spot on. My raiding guild has a feral tank for all the reasons you listed. He may end up doing less tanking as time passes and our warriors get better gear, but the threat generation early on will be nice for people transitioning from retail back into Classic where threat is an actual mechanic that DPS need to be aware of.
This is why my plan is to start with Druid and have a Priest to perhaps transition to maybe during BWL. I intend on sticking with the Druid, but also having a backup in case I’m not able to gear up enough to really pull Druid off. We’ll see how much time I really have to play! Lol
I decided to play a druid tank mainly for classic. Getting most of my info from you and Skarm. But you didn't mention feral tank, only feral dps. Was actually looking to go HotW/NS tank build if not full on tank, but I think I'd get better results as the NS build. Thoughts?
Most informative and correct druid video, for new people, that I've seen. I played druid for 90% of vanilla (played shammy/druid for SK.Gaming in TBC), I played on what I would think was one of the best PvP servers at the time (Stormscale.EU) and I could count on one hand the amount of good/well played druids on the server. But for me, if it weren't for the druid class I'd never played WoW again, coming back now after 11 years.
Nice video - and I think it might be needed - I've had a feeling that you, and a lot of the other great druid players around, have been making druids seem super attractive (Druid CAN meme suddenly became a thing). Druids definitely CAN, but as you say it takes effort, probably more so than most other classes. So I think it's very nice of you to be straight about that. And thanks for improving my chances of keeping all the loot to myself...
It is mana efficient for sure but takes 3.5 secs to cast. Besides on lvl 50+ dungeons a rank 4 healing touch (around 400-500 hp) will barely move a warriors life bar. So despite being the most mana efficient healing spell in game, it's almost not usable on late game.
@@vinaobalaseca wrong. You should be rocking around 600 healing bonus in P3 with your epics, rank4 becomes what u do when the tank is NOT dying, as casting it costs almost nothing, if the tank drops u should immediatelly pop a big (2k) heal or a regrowth
Lol funny... my experience as a druid in vanilla up to wrath I had the most fun as a druid... being a stealthy healer with 4 rogues caused havoc in PvP and allowed for a lot of fun times in pve... Beating healing meters doesn't mean who heals stronger/better heals but who heals more efficiently.
i knew what i was coming into, thats why i made druid my alt lol. i think all the information that you, skarm, and shedo have provided could make any druid have peak performance
I kinda started doing low level druid PVP in Cata as I stopped playing. Loads of fun, and the only class I could tolerate besides mage at the time. Now that I'm going to do Classic, I think I want to main Druid instead of Mage; I enjoy the high skill cap.
I love hybrids and utility and support they provide! When I raided as retri, I always looked after other guys, BoP him, toss freedom in her, LoH a tank. In Classic I gonna play feral and won't bother about farming consumables and leveling prof to craft a trinket and drop it and farming 5 weapons to use them all in 1 fight. But I will try to help my team as good as I can and have fun. And be a one-man-army in the open.
Thanks for the vid! I'm sure people will reroll after they get their first taste of classic druid. It's not easy being second or third in every category, jack of all trades curse.
Not really even that big of a deal. Druids are decent at most things, but their true skill is their versatility. Open world pvp and adventuring in the world in general is amazing as a druid. They have nearly everything to meet the occasion and adapt. The problem is when you think of them in the same way as other classes and compare damage and healing the same way. Instead you should consider their versatility and your skill at using that versatility. They are high skill because their is a lot to consider and make use of, and require quick and proper consideration on the fly on what to do at any point in time. They have stealth and cc that can allow them to go in and out of combat to recover and harass, or approach situations in different ways. Playing smart and creatively is nice. Use stealth to ambush, escape, maneuver through mobs to get to or away from danger, stalk, scout, esc... Pop out and ambush with spells and then pop out and exit combat and stalk from the shadows as they widdle down and pop back in when they try to start recovering. All types of unique fun tactics honestly. Over time effects allow both healing and damaging while not actually staying in the fight if your able to keep distance.
Hey man that's a cool little fantasy you got there except mana is still limited so you end up doing fuck all anyway. Swap forms a couple times, cast a few spells and oh wait you're actually almost oom and almost dead cuz the other classes are doing real shit to you at which point you do the only thing druid is good at which is go travel form and run like the little twat you are. Druids smfh
I'm planning a druid for my alt on a PvE serve - for professions (herbalism and maybe mining) and healing/tanking secondary things (guild dungeon run for something etc.) - with mage as main. Other option would be shaman - better healer, but no stealth and no tanking (so less farming instances/elites mage can't do) and I've seen quite a lot of shamans (and druids) on the stress tests.
just remember you can only track 1 thing at a time (herbs, ore, and I'm guessing humanoids) and will have to constantly rotate between them if farming; I think it's castable while mounted though. I plan on taking skinning/herb (need earthroot for a class quest), and then replacing skinning with mining at 60.
This makes me sad but I’m glad to learn it now lol I’m going horde for pvp so looks like I’m between resto shaman or priest. Should I roll sham over priest for world pvp / bgs etc?
Thanks Ebbnflow. I watched some other "class guides"/"what class should you play" videos by various people, and a lot of folks said how beastly druid was, and how it's a lesser known yet pretty OP class. This video totally changed my mind, and provided a really knowledgeable insight into what playing a druid is actually like. It will be my first time ever playing WoW in 3 days. I'm glad you made this so that I can start with a more beginner friendly class, then maybe move into druid later as an experiment just for fun :)
“How will Druids change as the phases roll out?” “They don’t change much, but other classes get burstier.” Have you seen that Warsong Gulch dropping in phase 3 tho👀 Watch me get those flags gang
I'm a new subscriber and new to the Druid for Classic. Although this is somewhat disheartening for a new player to hear. I really appreciate the honesty. I'm hoping that I can continue to learn from you and be at least a good druid. Thanks for all you do for the wow community especially Druids.
DO NOT reroll based off of what someone says is good or bad. PLAY WHAT YOU LOVE. The rest will come I promise.I've seen rets 1v3 before anything possible in vanilla. All that matters is that you are having fun on the class you like the most.
I just naturally come to the decision that a Druid fits my personality and my play style perfectly. Not olayed all classes but the ones I have just didn’t feel right.
Little sad bears weren't even mentioned. Im intrested in a bear tank alt, would of been nice to get your impression as i feel like bears are pretty good (based mostly off skarms content) especially for a not quite so hardcore guIild
It's good to make it very clear that Druid is not for everyone. But I am a seasoned support player and enjoy enabling my team to crush any content. I tried Paladin, but there is no satisfaction in topping the healing meters, it's just boring. I play Druid, because I AM SUPPORT.
Druid is such a flexible class. You can do so many things that it leaves very little room for downtime because there's always a goal you can strive to accomplish. Classic isn't just about raids or battlegrounds. There is so much to do and druid is one of those classes that let you get the most out of it. I was originally going to play warrior because I was coming from a very retailesque point of view and wanted to be the best at a certain thing. Now I realize that isn't the best approach and I can safely say i'm way more excited to play my druid and figure out all the cool shit I can do on it than I ever was about playing a warrior.
New drinking game. Drink every time Ebb says "that being said".
Warning : you may die from alcohol overconsumption
That being said, there are more before I edit the video. It is a baddd habit (working on it though!)
@@Ebbnflow That being said it's such a good phrase though...
That being said even though it’s a good catchphrase. Maybe saying it to much can make you sound repetitive. That being said first time I watched a video by you and I really liked it. That being said I’m prob going to subscribe! That being said I think I over killed the joke.
I don't mind it haha
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Thing is, I started classic leveling a priest and I got bored so quickly. Not bored because of the gameplay of classic, bored because I wasn't looking forward to getting higher levels in a way, like I didn't feel right playing what is the best healer class on classic. I switched to a druid and immediately felt happier. I don't care if I won't be the best healer for pvp or pve, I'm enjoying my time on classic now and that's all that matters.
carolina what server
carolina I agree girl preach It druids gotta stick together
I find druid enjoyable because its not the best at one thing. I think thats the point of the class. Versatility. I love being able to get a slice of mage or warrior or rogue. So its fair its not top tier in those categories. I plan on specing hybrid with a concentration feral because you can still adequately heal. I'm excited to learn how to really play this class to its fullest.
My only salty note is that druids dont get a regular revive and that sucks ass.
i agree happiness first
I had the same with mage. felt boring to level didn't even reach level 10. Swapped to druid and had a lot more fun.
Wow you must be fun at Moonglade parties...
Praises druids when no one wanted to play them, figures out people want to play druids, immediately dogs them 😂
For real! Lmao 😂 so much negativity in this video..
@@zerkk1 thats the truth tho
Hes right sadly though druid healers succ
@@fjsjejjejdjdj546 they don't suck. They just suck at healing. They still bring the innervates for our irreverent priests!
Feral dps hybrid!
Druid was my "first love" in WoW, TBC specifically. When leveling, I loved being cat in 5-mans (up until I got to Outlands)... I could emergency tank, emergency heal, combat rez, innervate. I was a panic button. In WSG I found my niche as a flag carrier. But more than all that, I loved the feel of the class. The fact that I felt like 4 classes condensed into one. The flexibility I bought to a group. The ability to pick my own fights in world PvP. The feeling of smoothness compared to other, clunky feeling classes. The entire fantasy - and in-game mechanics - of shapeshifting. The feel and flavor of our spells. The unspoken Druid Code, still a thing at the time. And of course, Moonglade... A sanctuary for Tauren and Night Elves alike (except for during the Lunar Festival... UGH at the people desecrating our grove), a place that reminded me that I'm more than a druid of the Horde...
Turn back? No way! Sure I'll have other classes... But I am a Druid at heart, and simply that warm sensation of homecoming when my newly born Tauren draws energy from the Earth upon his first cast of Wrath cannot be replicated by any other class.
Winds be at your back, friends :)
I feel you, but can u tell me about the code? U mean being a defender azeroth's and peaceful? Or dont hurt other druids?
@@SenkoVT No druid-on-druid violence!
Amazingly described & exactly why I'm going Druid!!!
I started also as a druid in BC. I never topped the healing or dps meters but I didn't care. It was so fun. Running faster, versatile, what more do you want?
I was actually killed at Moonglade by a horde Druid, I think they realized they could one-shot me and went for it. Not all druids accept the code I suppose.
Maining druid its by far my favourite class fantasy. Who cares about being top
Agreed 100%
Yeah man. No point investing hundreds of hours into a class if it doesn't resonate with you. Especially in classic, I'd say play whatever class/race combination appeals to you.
ionno, go ask a gay forum who cares about being top :3
They can be the top in pvp, he doesn't know what he's talking about
@@MrEverisforever the problem with that answer is... that requires people who aren't the druid to suck. Druids are okay with lesser gear, but the main problem in PVP is that in order to use all their tricks, you need to switch forms. Which costs mana, a lot of mana. It's the real big hindrance to druids in pvp even if you disregard the atrocious scaling problem druids have. So a twink rogue/warrior/warlock will have much better scaling with gear.
"Just because you're not topping meters doesn't mean you're useless"
This one sentence is what the WoW community has failed to understand, and why Blizzard abandoned the concept of "support" as a fourth role early on.
But then I'll be using my druid mostly for farming and jobs anyway, so I won't really care about meters too much.
This!!!!!
Druid doesnt even have good support abilities though. Battle ress is weak af and innervate just gives mana. The content is easier than on private servers so people will only want damage increases, not defensive shit. If people get to choose then druid is never the choice.
@@puppe213 'Innervate just gives mana' Bruh, the amount of time's I've saved healers/dps if they fucked up by shifting out and healing/manaing them... If you're not planning on being in a top tier Guild of nolifers farming MC every day then druid is a great choice if you want to play it.
I think there also easy going guilds that don't care if they kill a raid boss best possible time at the end is about fun have great time together.
@@puppe213 the druid has the most support abilities, and the best buffs.
(EDIT: Okay I think the shaman and paladin actually have the druid beat in amount of support abilities.)
Yeah they all needed to be improved, in fact if you want to see a prime example of what could have been, check out Lord of the Rings' Captain class.
My point was that instead of taking what the druid had in support and making the whole class, or at least spec, about that, they ditched the idea.
Good thing I don't have to worry about these problems as a Paladin hahahahah
*cries*
Paladin was my main alllll wayyy to Cataclysm... And Paladin have a lot of fun WITH A LOT OF PAIN!! PvP will be your pain!! Priests/warlock and mages that is a pain! Mana burn/mana drain/ and CC all the time. You can cast heal ONLY when you stay. Holy Shock once 30 sec that is a joke.
But if you are correct spec, rogues and warriors are totally not a problem.
You will be always soo slow, because Paladin is the most static class in vanilla.
But you have a lot abilities to escape CC. With HUUUGE CD ))
So, yes enjoy Paladin class. That is a good class.
Many ppl are thinking that is very simple class. I'm totally not agree with that! ))
You may not top charts on a paldin, but holy hell don't complain. Everyone wanted a paladin for raiding because of those MASSIVE BUFFS
They want a *Holy* paladin for those Massive Buffs
FTFY
Lmfao that was funny
I'm pretty sure holy paladins are OP once you get critical strike gear. They never run oom cause they just crit with flash of light
Buffs are annoying .
This video honestly convinced me to play Druid more, thanks!
Ebbnflow: Druids are a bad choice, everything else is better than them and you need to avoid this class. ... but don't let me discourage you, have fun playing it.
Me: umm...
The most discouraging part is druids will get relatively weaker and weaker with every new phase. Whats the point of playing? In 2005 people atleast could hope for class balance improvements. But now we know what future is coming.
Because I play to have fun, not be the absolute best class. Even if Druids were outright told “hey we don’t like your class, you’re getting zero attention” I’d still play one. The fact is, Druids are just so damn fun
Trying to hoard all the leather to yourself Ebn? Shame.
all part of my master plan... :)
The main reason for me playing a druid is thst noone else wants the strange offpieces
Nerfi Mcnerfnerf What’s an “offpiece”?
@@JELKEK a piece of gear that is not related to any gear set. In this context, a piece of gear no other class needs for raiding but is a nice addition for a druid. For example the druid tanking pieces in aq40 or some random items in bwl. Alot of shit noone uses/wants is usefull to a druid, in one way or another in most cases in pvp
that has been the plan of all Druid main's since the survey shows more people picking druids than expected. ;D
but I dont choose druid because They seem strong, I choose druid because I like The druid fantasy. as such I would try to push my skills to make Druid Shine above the rest.
(and if I feel the need to be an OP druid I can jump on retail for a bit ;;;D)
Druids are strong in the variety of abilities they have, more than any other class in the game
It's not for everybody, and it's not easy
But goddam is it fun ;)
i first started playing druid a few weeks before TBC and i fell in love with the class rolling druid in each expansion and will be playing it in classic.
I have played a druid since Vanilla... and the expectation I have is to play Resto yet again. It's a comfortable role and one I will happily slip back into once again. We're a solid base class and a fun one. It will be fun to get back into Molten Core once again. I miss the old Healing Touch healing approach - never felt right to be a rejuve HOT machine.
Totally agree. I never liked the tree of life form either. Loved the NE casting model
@@Kinson09 same here but unfortunately rolling horde don't like fighting shamans and not having stomp lol
I’ve only played wow since TBC and always as a Druid. Being a hots healing monster that always topped the meters is all I’ve ever known. I’m excited for the Healing Touch challenge and curious about my beloved class pre-TBC.
Listening to this while leveling my druid main.
He made this video after being ganked.
Brilliant! Keep people away from druids so we don't have to compete for drops!
But yeah, it's good you clarified these things.
Did viper through cat and bear get fixed?
When I started thinking what class I wanted to play in classic, I picked rogue first since I wanted to do some stealthy shenanigans. I felt like I will be doing one and the same thing over and over again. When I thought what are my other options druids came up. Back in vanilla I played shaman and then paladin and I remember that I played them just because of their ability to have answer to every situation. This is also why I picked druid now. People are too obsessed with being "top" at the dps/hps meters with classes which are not supposed to. In PVE you can't utilize all your toolkit and you will never be as useful as other classes who are able to.
In PVP on other hand, druids are monsters if you know what you are doing. You are never a healer only, you are never a dps only, you are never a tank only. You are all at once. It requires incredible decision-making to be a good druid and this is why I know I will love playing druid. Also druids are always the one who get their epic sets first. Good luck rolling on that ring of spellpower with another 12 mages and 8 warlocks.
Oh COME ON i finaly was 95% sure what to play on launch Poof Ebbnflow video pops up and again im questioning everything :D
Play paladin
@@thevlaka and be bored for all of classic...
@@thevlaka sorry Horde it is :P
I'll play warlock and Hunter :p
Druid is always my main.
Insert Mr Rogers " I'm not very good at it, but it doesn't matter" meme.
Agree but understand this. I only want one classic character. If/when BC/wrath comes out, I want to play druid. Druid now is both an investment and a challenge. Also, mailboxes aren't going to dance themselves.
And BC was _very_ kind to druids.
I want a druid for tbc, but this is vanilla. Do I level one now to be ready for when tbc comes, or do I just hold off in case the tbc servers are fresh restarts lol
Sounds like someone wants all the Druid loots from all the Druids ever!
>:/
Anything to do with games and someone saying things like "You need to..", "required", etc... just really gets to me
You dont need to do anything not is anything required, i havent seen a single guild that bans balance or feral druids, no one cares. Even apes have a balance druid, i guess they suck too?
Can you update us about leveling with questing, the talents, gear/stats to focus on?
Hey Ebbn I noticed you a said the healing coefficient is different in classic than the private servers. Is there a link you can provide that breaks down the math? I am worried my preparations may be considering the Private servers healing coefficient. Thanks man keep up the great videos!!
Great vids man just discovered your channel recently - keep it up :)
I watch your video's just in case there is any 100% NEEDED information. But for the most part, I'm going to play druid knowing fully that they have many ups and downs, I'm going to make up my own spec and figure out play styles for myself. Trial and error is just more fun than everybody immediately going for MLG optimal nolifer minmax builds.
Your last sentence. THAT. RIGHT. THERE.
@Ebbnflow the regrowth coefficient on the direct heal is higher in classic, which is an overall buff. On the hot portion it is lower.
Druid is one of those classes that I personally would never play, but I'm always glad to see at least one of them in my group. They provide some pretty unique utility tools that other classes don't have. Even a bad druid can still provide buffs and utility tools that other classes don't have access to.
I agree ebn. People are wanting to play a class they think they remember from 15 years ago. I am playing a class i rarely played through wow to make my classic experience good. Thank you for your content.
This was considerate. Thanks dude.
There might be very few druids, but this also means the demand is high, druids arent useless regardless what people say/think.
Im sticking to druid, Less druids > im more unique> More items for me in raids
The demand for druids is 1/40 for a raid and 1/10 for wsg. That's it.
@@puppe213 Lol wrong
@Chris Anderson hf afk spamming flash of light lol
Ebbn, love you giving us both the real good and the real bad up front. In my case, I stick with my decision going resto druid and looking forward to fighting/healing/supporting my way out of that clear underdog role :)
See I love being the underdog, It means everyone else better be on their A game and even that much more epic when
Druid 4 life though 💘
Seconded 💚 I love my druid 😁
Druid 4 life
who remembers all druid raids?
I just hit 50 with my druid. Hearing these things are discouraging; however, being able to tank/heal/dps anytime I feel like it is still pretty awesome.
Im going feral off tank for my group in classic today can't wait. I played druid from vanilla to cat and what you said is very true.
Thanks for the real talk ebn. Im going to play a drood anyways. I like to be outside in the world, questing, doing wpvp and skilling professions. No need to be the best in terms of damage/healing. Im going to be the best in Versatility (and the best cook on my server, flooding the AH with nightfin soup!)
During naxx I was the only druid in a horde 40 man. You can imagine the amount of gold I burned every raid night buffing 8 group with gift of the wild after every wipe. I could not sustain it, even though I had a geared lock to farm with. When I asked for some compensation given nobody else wanted to play druid I was labelled a whiner.
whiner
Sound like idiots in that guild
Are you telling me you were burning your gold because of... a buff reagent?
Oakenlix 18s x8 groups x 20-30 wipes per night, 6 days a week
@@blackyvertigo so your guild just kept wiping a hundred times every week instead of getting a better gear and/or tactics first?
Wow.
Still, its not a druid class problem, just a shitty guild. Be sure everyone else burned just as much gold as you were.
another day, another ebbnflow, good
This can be applied to all classes. This is WoW Classic. All classes are amazing in situations and absolutely horrible in others and will make you want to reroll.
Druids, however, are the jack of all trades and useful in most all encounters while useless in very little.
what situations are mages horrible in, that will make you want to reroll?
@@whiskizyo2067 the fact that mages tend to over run the servers and are a dime a dozen.
@@Jkg71 fact that mages are popular* and i can't blame them, they ranged, have good cc, damage, crazy aoe, mana regen, a shield as well as an invincibility, teleport, can reset all cds and basically everything short of the best armor and healing
Ill be honest, you've not said anything i didn't already expect.
My interest in the druid is for its world PvP potential, particularly with an NS/moonglow or moonfury build.
Ive been practicing what i can on the private servers and its clear this class has a HUGE learning curve.
I don't mind healing, im quite contempt with it. Im really not sure how well i will do as a druid in PvP, it all feels quite daunting but i understand what i need to do and how to approach certain situations, i just need to apply it and practice applying it.
Ive already won some duel though ive lost many too.
Hopefully im making the right decision to main a druid.
I like the blunt honesty, I wish more people did this
I cleard MT BWL AQ 20 and 40 Naxx 5 Bosses down as a Tank Druid. If you use your potentail and some math you can do everything.
The more you say not to, the more I want to
Still going moonkin despite the negative aspects. I'll be doing all I can to negate the whole non-viable status for that spec. I want to range dps, but play a druid. For me it's the only reason I want to even play WoW. The play style it self is more up my alley than going lock or mage. I know it's an uphill battle, but that too is part of the fun.
Connor Kenney keep on it! I personally newer played moonkin, always feral hybrid. Mmo, play the way you like =)
The majority of players already avoid druids :p
I see what your trying to do...more druid gear for yourself...ha wont stop me from becoming worlds worst druid in classic
Sorry but thats my spot
Let the fight begin
So you say, and yet on Grobbulus Druids are the #4 Class behind Warriors, Priests, and Rogues.
@@mateobarrett6829if you look at the data from all servers and prior servers druid is always one of or the least played class in the game.
Idk man I have a pretty legitimate argument for being the worst druid... lol :)
One annoying thing when playing to your full potential as a hybrid class, that I've experienced on private servers, is that you could get told to "stick to your role". For example I was tanking an instance, but in between pulls I was throwing off heals (or shifthing out in combat to ns+heal someone getting rly low) to save the healer's mana - and the healer got pissed because he felt obsolete ^^ And yes, I was keeping aggro and staying alive. The healer explicitly told me that it annoyed him that I took his role... Same thing could happen if you are in a group as a healer and you go cat or bear to boost dps or pick up a loose mob/interrupt some crucial spell (even if you are keeping everyone alive, staying low on threat and conserving mana, and basically just making the run smoother).
Hjernded Every 5 man I was even in described to the T lol, always felt like hey if I can fill gaps why not?
hunters are also good 'when played right' there are a million bad hunters though and few bad druids, so even being a bad druid makes you more valuable than most
Nope. If you're a bad druid then you are 100% worthless. Balance and Feral DPS are both almost worthless. Especially on Horde where Feral can't benefit from windfury so you would max have 1 in a raid usually and hopefully none. In fact really hardcore raid comps literally have 1 -2 druids and both of them are main Resto.
@@connor654 They can only benefit from windfury if they ARE horde....You know... cause only horde can be shamans...
@@crabmilk360 No dude they DO NOT benefit from windfury. Windfury affects your weapon and druids do not deal damage with their weapon? The fact that you don't know that means you either don't play druid or are not a good druid player. You ever wonder why a feral Dps's best weapon is level 34 blue in manual crowd pummeler???
Dennis Wallace A bad Druid is free HK, and pretty useless in PvE (or at least, easily replaceable). Even a shit Hunter can spam viper sting, wing clip, scatter shot and put traps this and there while getting focused in PvP. Mails and larger HP pool along with CCs/snares/slows make Hunters a quite forgiving class compared to the rest, which is literally the opposite of Druids. A Druid who isn’t in bear form is as durable as a rogue without CDs - and not being in bear form or at the right place at the right moment is an extremely easy mistake to make. Druids are the least forgiving class in Classic, and are overall harsh.
Dude all the positivity you had in previous videos went down the zink in this one.. As a class that can play every singel role shouldn't be topping meters! We can play anything for peep sake, now that's amazing my friend!
after i have watched this video i have made my desicion
i have 2 options
1) affliction druid
or
2) subtlety druid
because im really bored of of protection warrior main, and restoration hunter alt chars
pvpde kedi formu mu daha iyi yoksa wrath atmak falan mı adama
It’s funny, because in the downer feeling time of this video everything Ebbn says, and is explaining is exactly what makes the druid and it’s exactly why I’ve played one for over a decade and have main’d one in vanilla for four years now and will continue to play it as my main. I absolutely love the class.
Thing i like about druids is that its the one hybrid spec that actually has to be played as a hybrid. Even if you are specced out into feral you still need to pop out of feral forms to use offensive and defensive spells. Its so versatile.
The main thing that stops me from levelling one as a healer alt is its lack of an out of combat rez. It really should have one with combat rez on its long cooldown being its unique gimmick. Much like how shammies get to rez themselves on a cooldown for their unique gimmick but still have a normal out of combat rez.
actualy bear tanks are useful too, but there should only be 1 in a raid. skarm has done some videos on this subject.
I wouldn't say should, you're perfectly fine not having them as a raid slot and can just substitute literally any primary dps for that slot.
@@connor654 Oh, you let mages offtank?
@@uni4rm You don't need a designated raid slot for an off tank. Literally any warrior can off-tank.
@@connor654 what the bear tank is there for is a threat tank. they can produce much high tps than a warrior so those bosses that are dps races or bosses with adds at start. they are amazing at being 1st kill target tanks. and that warrior needs gear to offtank. which is being eaten up by multiple other plate tanks. that bear tank will be easy to gear up for a guild and make the whole raid as a whole better geared and give more utility since they have innervate and a brez..
One of the best druid youtubers for classic out there! Give him more likes guys!
Mature, well structured scripts, good and solid info. What else do you need?
I m gonna main a druid for classic just as I did back then.
I ve suffered all the bad itemisation, bad talent trees before the druid patch, the pvp grind to have some decent gear, the horrible stigma, all the harsh behaviour against us to my skin.
So why do it again?
Simple answer is nostalgia, uniqueness, versatility and having a class that is not a one button spec.
Keep up the good work Eb!
Quick question: I m finding mixed info about professions. I m going for the SHotM enchanting trinket. So I ve decided to go skin/ench and drop ench when I finally create the trinket. Taladril and some other people tell me not to bother with enchanting while leveling and power-level when I hit 60. I m thinking all the items I can disenchant while leveling and that it will save me a lot of gold and mats in the long run.
What are your thoughts?
Thank you for the "harsh" truth, but I am still determined to carve my own path and become a successful druid once more as I have been throughout nearly the entire WoW lifespan :)
I was never looking to top meters, but rather to enjoy the special playstyle, flexibility and class fantasy druid offers. In addition I have found my home in a wonderful guild that welcomes so called "memespecs" and casual play, so that will also not be an issue should I choose to go bear/cat/moonkin instead of the typical resto healer role.
Wow way to crush my Druid dreams ebbn :(
Better to hear the truth now than in 2 months
Good video. Harsh at times, but critical. I like that you didn't sugar coat it, but gave a realistic perspective.
I've been maining druid almost exclusively since late wrath, but there are distinct reasons why I found it less appealing early on. You hit them here very well.
I love the class, but in Classic you need to outperform others to break even. Which is do-able, but is not for everyone. Nice video
Reasons for Ferals in raids:
1. You can buff a melee party in raid with +3% crit.
2. You can Off-Tank, but play a Rogue-like role for DPS. This allows you to slot them as a Rogue for raid comp, but get an OT for a fight like the Four Horsemen.
3. Druid OTs do not take set items and armor drops from Warriors, allowing a raid to gear Warrior MT and OTs faster.
4. Druid OTs do not take set items from Rogues, allowing a raid to gear their Rogues more quickly.
5. Bear Druids have excellent single-target threat. It is reputed to be the #1 single-target threat generating class. In an OT role, this allows for their mob to be burned down quickly, minimizing stress on the raid.
6. Any Druid can shift from an OT or Melee DPS role to raid healing and decursing, allowing them to change roles to fit the needs of the raid, at any time.
7. By having a Feral, you can get both the Leader of the Pact (For a group) and Mark of the Wild. There is no need in a raid for Druids to fill a Resto role, as healing and decursing can be fully performed by Shamans and Paladins, so the raid can benefit from these buffs, while gaining an OT. Essentially, your one Druid doesn't have to just be a less-than-optimal healer - they can be an excellent OT. This also allows more of your Warriors to stick to DPS.
8. A Feral can perform any function that is needed of a Resto, in a raid. This allows you to slot them as raid healer/decurser, but use them as a tank in a particular fight.
Leader of the Pack applies to the party and not the entire raid, but everything else is spot on. My raiding guild has a feral tank for all the reasons you listed. He may end up doing less tanking as time passes and our warriors get better gear, but the threat generation early on will be nice for people transitioning from retail back into Classic where threat is an actual mechanic that DPS need to be aware of.
Great video, great druid player!
This is why my plan is to start with Druid and have a Priest to perhaps transition to maybe during BWL. I intend on sticking with the Druid, but also having a backup in case I’m not able to gear up enough to really pull Druid off. We’ll see how much time I really have to play! Lol
Great vid! keep it up :D
I decided to play a druid tank mainly for classic. Getting most of my info from you and Skarm. But you didn't mention feral tank, only feral dps. Was actually looking to go HotW/NS tank build if not full on tank, but I think I'd get better results as the NS build. Thoughts?
Most informative and correct druid video, for new people, that I've seen.
I played druid for 90% of vanilla (played shammy/druid for SK.Gaming in TBC), I played on what I would think was one of the best PvP servers at the time (Stormscale.EU) and I could count on one hand the amount of good/well played druids on the server.
But for me, if it weren't for the druid class I'd never played WoW again, coming back now after 11 years.
so blizzard should delete all classes except the top 2 dps and 1 tank and 1 healer class
Nice video - and I think it might be needed - I've had a feeling that you, and a lot of the other great druid players around, have been making druids seem super attractive (Druid CAN meme suddenly became a thing). Druids definitely CAN, but as you say it takes effort, probably more so than most other classes. So I think it's very nice of you to be straight about that.
And thanks for improving my chances of keeping all the loot to myself...
I can't wait to see all you beautiful people online. Oh my god I'm so excited!
I will be using my druid in classic for farming primarily
Alot of my buddies wanted to be a druid until i explained how they worked in classic...I'm the only one now ;).
"weaker mana efficient heal" literally has the most mana efficient heal in the game (rank 4 or 5 healing touch)...
shhhhh
Yep, didn't pay attention to anything else said after that. Rank 4 Healing Touch is the most efficient in the game...
@@DennisEldrup to slow anyway. Shams and preasts already healed the target before a druid finished his healing touch
It is mana efficient for sure but takes 3.5 secs to cast. Besides on lvl 50+ dungeons a rank 4 healing touch (around 400-500 hp) will barely move a warriors life bar. So despite being the most mana efficient healing spell in game, it's almost not usable on late game.
@@vinaobalaseca wrong. You should be rocking around 600 healing bonus in P3 with your epics, rank4 becomes what u do when the tank is NOT dying, as casting it costs almost nothing, if the tank drops u should immediatelly pop a big (2k) heal or a regrowth
Lol funny... my experience as a druid in vanilla up to wrath I had the most fun as a druid... being a stealthy healer with 4 rogues caused havoc in PvP and allowed for a lot of fun times in pve...
Beating healing meters doesn't mean who heals stronger/better heals but who heals more efficiently.
Even after this video I'm still split between playing a shaman or a druid, perfectly 50/50 between them
I was too went druid what did you go for in the end ?
@@thepopeisdope559 Final Fantasy 14 and then kinda gave up, I might jump back onto Classic as a mage
@@loathewolf I would recommend druid man its great fun
i knew what i was coming into, thats why i made druid my alt lol. i think all the information that you, skarm, and shedo have provided could make any druid have peak performance
Ebn, I was hoping to see comments about the heart of the wild spec as well as Rezing in the perspective in practical of an experienced Druid.
I kinda started doing low level druid PVP in Cata as I stopped playing. Loads of fun, and the only class I could tolerate besides mage at the time.
Now that I'm going to do Classic, I think I want to main Druid instead of Mage; I enjoy the high skill cap.
I enjoy playing Druid and that’s why I will be playing it in classic
I love hybrids and utility and support they provide! When I raided as retri, I always looked after other guys, BoP him, toss freedom in her, LoH a tank.
In Classic I gonna play feral and won't bother about farming consumables and leveling prof to craft a trinket and drop it and farming 5 weapons to use them all in 1 fight. But I will try to help my team as good as I can and have fun. And be a one-man-army in the open.
Play whatever class you enjoy. It is just a game after all. It isn't that serious.
Thanks for the vid! I'm sure people will reroll after they get their first taste of classic druid. It's not easy being second or third in every category, jack of all trades curse.
Not really even that big of a deal. Druids are decent at most things, but their true skill is their versatility. Open world pvp and adventuring in the world in general is amazing as a druid. They have nearly everything to meet the occasion and adapt.
The problem is when you think of them in the same way as other classes and compare damage and healing the same way. Instead you should consider their versatility and your skill at using that versatility. They are high skill because their is a lot to consider and make use of, and require quick and proper consideration on the fly on what to do at any point in time. They have stealth and cc that can allow them to go in and out of combat to recover and harass, or approach situations in different ways.
Playing smart and creatively is nice. Use stealth to ambush, escape, maneuver through mobs to get to or away from danger, stalk, scout, esc... Pop out and ambush with spells and then pop out and exit combat and stalk from the shadows as they widdle down and pop back in when they try to start recovering. All types of unique fun tactics honestly. Over time effects allow both healing and damaging while not actually staying in the fight if your able to keep distance.
Hey man that's a cool little fantasy you got there except mana is still limited so you end up doing fuck all anyway. Swap forms a couple times, cast a few spells and oh wait you're actually almost oom and almost dead cuz the other classes are doing real shit to you at which point you do the only thing druid is good at which is go travel form and run like the little twat you are. Druids smfh
i agree with 100% of this vid. Love druid. HoTW/NS everytime.
I'm planning a druid for my alt on a PvE serve - for professions (herbalism and maybe mining) and healing/tanking secondary things (guild dungeon run for something etc.) - with mage as main. Other option would be shaman - better healer, but no stealth and no tanking (so less farming instances/elites mage can't do) and I've seen quite a lot of shamans (and druids) on the stress tests.
just remember you can only track 1 thing at a time (herbs, ore, and I'm guessing humanoids) and will have to constantly rotate between them if farming; I think it's castable while mounted though. I plan on taking skinning/herb (need earthroot for a class quest), and then replacing skinning with mining at 60.
This makes me sad but I’m glad to learn it now lol I’m going horde for pvp so looks like I’m between resto shaman or priest. Should I roll sham over priest for world pvp / bgs etc?
Thanks Ebbnflow.
I watched some other "class guides"/"what class should you play" videos by various people, and a lot of folks said how beastly druid was, and how it's a lesser known yet pretty OP class.
This video totally changed my mind, and provided a really knowledgeable insight into what playing a druid is actually like.
It will be my first time ever playing WoW in 3 days. I'm glad you made this so that I can start with a more beginner friendly class, then maybe move into druid later as an experiment just for fun :)
“How will Druids change as the phases roll out?”
“They don’t change much, but other classes get burstier.”
Have you seen that Warsong Gulch dropping in phase 3 tho👀
Watch me get those flags gang
I will still play druid after watching the video, i was already aware of most of this before i picked druid 😁 i just have alot to learn 😎
Nice!!!
Do you believe if you focus on one type such as Resto you can be a good Druid or do you have to be a hybrid type?
Gonna be rolling a druid and do my best for tanking and healing myself. It's all about having fun in the end of the day right?
I'm a new subscriber and new to the Druid for Classic. Although this is somewhat disheartening for a new player to hear. I really appreciate the honesty. I'm hoping that I can continue to learn from you and be at least a good druid. Thanks for all you do for the wow community especially Druids.
DO NOT reroll based off of what someone says is good or bad. PLAY WHAT YOU LOVE. The rest will come I promise.I've seen rets 1v3 before anything possible in vanilla. All that matters is that you are having fun on the class you like the most.
@@joshw3719 that's cool and everything bro until you suddenly realize you're actually a burden to all your groups.
nobody is perfect ! druid - one love !!!
Hey man, great video. When would you say that resto druids actually DO become pretty good?
Druid for life
I just naturally come to the decision that a Druid fits my personality and my play style perfectly. Not olayed all classes but the ones I have just didn’t feel right.
Little sad bears weren't even mentioned. Im intrested in a bear tank alt, would of been nice to get your impression as i feel like bears are pretty good (based mostly off skarms content) especially for a not quite so hardcore guIild
I was playing as a druid and believe me I kicked ass at this time you have so many possibilities as a druid you just need to be good
Love it. Druid no hero's!
Already turned away to the other hybrid, Paladin. I wish you all luck and fun in Classic :)
It's good to make it very clear that Druid is not for everyone. But I am a seasoned support player and enjoy enabling my team to crush any content.
I tried Paladin, but there is no satisfaction in topping the healing meters, it's just boring.
I play Druid, because I AM SUPPORT.
Druid is the worst support though. You have like 0 support abilities. Who the fuck cares about innervate and battle ress lmao that's weak shit.
Druid is such a flexible class. You can do so many things that it leaves very little room for downtime because there's always a goal you can strive to accomplish. Classic isn't just about raids or battlegrounds. There is so much to do and druid is one of those classes that let you get the most out of it. I was originally going to play warrior because I was coming from a very retailesque point of view and wanted to be the best at a certain thing. Now I realize that isn't the best approach and I can safely say i'm way more excited to play my druid and figure out all the cool shit I can do on it than I ever was about playing a warrior.