I would love to see a tube of dent series! I love watching you remove the dents on big tubes, as i can see the method better and I can use the techniques in small tubes! I don't consider tips and tricks as cheats, as it is knowledge you earned over the years. One thing I don't understand is the lime scale remover. Does it neutralize the flux, and wouldn't it be safe to rinse after using it?
Wes, every time I watch your videos I am amazed at how you are able to manipulate the brass. I Know it would take a lot of work to take still photos as you work a piece and then make a video with those stills and watch the transformation of the metal in your hands. The patients that you show when working on all of those baninstruments has helped me to slow down and be more patient on the wood and steel parts that I work on. I'm converting a bus into an RV.
Love this. Played tuba in high school. It was owned by the school. Always wish I owned one to play in local community band. The only thing I own is the mouthpiece🤣
@@runwillrobinson I kept my tuba mouthpiece from high school as a keepsake for 30+ years…it wasn’t until my daughter started getting serious about playing euphonium in high school that I even THOUGHT about playing again. Several years later, I’ve bought an inexpensive tuba and now play in two community bands…you never know how life will turn out!
Wonderful to see a craftsman at work. Watching I became aware of the number of cuts each video contains. It must be a lot of work editing these videos to show the minute changes in the piece being worked. Thank you and know that your effort is appreciated.
That is off to a GREAT Start! I don't think they ever made a horn that you couldn't fix! I wonder how many times that one fell off the bus!? Fantastic video, as always!
I have watched several of these videos now and there is no doubt that you are a highly skilled craftsman. Artisan even. What I can't help but wonder about though, is how in the world do these horns get that beat up? Some of them look as though the damage may have been intentional.
I'm so happy to see another long term project on the channel! Personally not a fan of shorts when it comes to instrument repair. Need that hands on experience 😊
good video, esp. the welded post idea, car repairers use it to dent pull too, esp. if the job has to be painted anyway, and it saves having to expand from the inside (esp. if you can't).
I would definitely love to take a closer look at your “post raising tool”! I’ve used a similar technique over the last year by soldering a saxophone post and raising it with the sax post tool.
I have 4 or 5 of them, different shapes. I have sax post as well, but sometimes it has too much surface area. But thinking about it after the fact, after that first round, maybe could have gotten the wider flanged sax post to raise that area more. Next time.
Impressive cleanup on that dent. Looking forward to seeing it good as new. I remember pulling tubas out of the chem clean dip. Always a fun time. Thanks for sharing!
Daron and I have used that dent procedure before. We used the slide hammer that is available and used a piece of brass bar with a hole drilled in it. It gave us more surface area for the solder while allowing us to shape the bar to our need. Great video.
I’ve got several different versions of this theme, sometimes they work more than others. This one moved a bit and did save some time. Hope y’all are doing well buddy!
I’ve always found soldering a plug and pulling large dents out before doing traditional dent work to be really effective. Typically on thicker brass I use the same style tool you fashioned to use a striking motion. But for thinner brass and really wide dents I usually just pull on the plug with vice grips by hand in one motion so the brass doesn’t flex. I found it comes up more and takes less time.
I just began work on an S curve tube that has creases on opposite sides, so I am appreciative that you explained hammering the creases is important. I am wondering if always chasing creases away from the deepest part of a dent is how to prevent folds.
Have you considered using Hydroforming to remove large dents? Seal off the dented section and pressurise it with water, which will press harder against dents and other imperfections than the rest of the makeshift pressure vessel, rounding things off to at least a decent starting point.
Watching you do this repair. I’m wondering if you could use some of the PDR (paint less dent repair) tools and techniques that they use in auto bodywork. It’s using adhesives to glue pull tabs on metal to aid in pulling dents. I’ve been watching some PDR videos in preparation to fix damage done to my wife’s vehicle.
God bless you for continuing a profession that relies on our God-given physical talents. I do have a question tho - in this case, wouldn’t it have been better to just replace the two largest damaged parts? I see on Yamaha’s website, you can buy any part on the instrument. Curious also as to the total number of hours you put into this restoration.
Was thinking, "You need a dent puller...."! Next you might try taking an old jigsaw, remove the base plate, and attach a padded wooden or rawhide "fist" where the blade goes, and use that for tippy-tapping creases. No as much tactile sensation, but might speed things up and save some effort. Such things are used in hospital respiratory therapy departments to help clear lungs.
Fascinating to watch you work. Thank you. Have you considered sealing both ends of a dented part and plugging in a pressure washer to blow out the dents?
Have you seen people doing painless dent repair on cars? They often hot-glue little plastic attachments onto the painted car body panel and then use a slide-hammer to pull out the dents. It could work on your instruments.
It works to an extent. Brass is a lot more malleable than sheet steel, so it tends to deform and has to be worked back into place, whereas sheet steel is easier to "pop" the dent out of because it's so much harder and more springy. It (sheet steel) retains it's memory better, so to speak. Softer metals tend to be less forgiving. Source: many years in a paint and body shop, but I work with brass, copper and aluminum as a hobby.
When I watch this, I wondered, is there a tool that holds that ball, and vibrates so you can put pressure on the piece being repaired and let the vibrations work like little hammer taps? That would be an interesting experiment.
yes, good tip, but at 11:04 this is called a 'rose_bud', welders use it for manipulating metal, NOT for welding or braising, as this produces a fat large fire, not a controlled beam of heat.
The soldered stud worked well enough, but you would be better off buying a modern stud gun. You would most likely have to make your own brass studs, but a spot welded stud would be a fair bit stronger. With it being made out of the same material, you wouldn't have to worry about the solder causing a light spot on the brass.
You do amazing things Wes, but what I want to know is how the hell does an instrument end up looking like that ? Seriously that looks almost deliberate with multiple attempts to smash up the tubes !
Honest question? Is repairing what’s seems to be a cheaper instrument cheaper than just buying a new one? Your work is amazing but is the instrument really the same after that much damage?
l appreciate watching a great craftsman do his magic !!! THANK YOU !!! Were is your email address. I am a retired tool designer, amongst a lot of other crafts. Id like to brainstorm some with you, to come up with shortcut tooling, that only YOU have....just for giggles. I have watched your channel for quite a while.
Another thing car body people use is air-bags that go inside and inflate. They come with a rubber bulb to blow them up. I suspect one of these inside that crushed pipe might push it out effectively.
For automotive paintless dent repair they use Hotglue and special puller tabs, with slide hammer. I wonder how well it would work in this application. You can even get a cheap set on Amazon.
Man, that’s a lot of work. Hey kids, take good care of your instruments!
I just found your channel, Thanks for sharing your amazing skill with us👍
I'm sure you don't make any money on school instrument resurrection but I do love to watch them. The pro bono of the instrument industry.
Very good
I would love to see a tube of dent series!
I love watching you remove the dents on big tubes, as i can see the method better and I can use the techniques in small tubes!
I don't consider tips and tricks as cheats, as it is knowledge you earned over the years.
One thing I don't understand is the lime scale remover. Does it neutralize the flux, and wouldn't it be safe to rinse after using it?
I appreciate your profession. Saving instruments daily. You do a great service for music, bringing more joy to the world. I approve. 👍👍👋
Wes, your artisan skills are phenomenal and a joy to watch. It will be nice to see the rest of the repairs. Blessings to you.
Great to see a horn brought back to musical life.
Very satisfying! Looking forward to the next one...
Can’t wait for part two!
Wes, every time I watch your videos I am amazed at how you are able to manipulate the brass. I Know it would take a lot of work to take still photos as you work a piece and then make a video with those stills and watch the transformation of the metal in your hands. The patients that you show when working on all of those baninstruments has helped me to slow down and be more patient on the wood and steel parts that I work on. I'm converting a bus into an RV.
Bump for work well done, thank you for the lesson.
I've been waiting for 2 months for another video! Glad you're finally able to make time for us again 😀😀😀
Love this. Played tuba in high school. It was owned by the school. Always wish I owned one to play in local community band. The only thing I own is the mouthpiece🤣
I kept my tuba mouthpiece too. Just in case....
@@runwillrobinson I kept my tuba mouthpiece from high school as a keepsake for 30+ years…it wasn’t until my daughter started getting serious about playing euphonium in high school that I even THOUGHT about playing again. Several years later, I’ve bought an inexpensive tuba and now play in two community bands…you never know how life will turn out!
Right about that !!!
Wonderful to see a craftsman at work. Watching I became aware of the number of cuts each video contains. It must be a lot of work editing these videos to show the minute changes in the piece being worked. Thank you and know that your effort is appreciated.
Don't be a simp
God, I love to see him working on the tubas?
My new favorite channel. You a a real artist.
Love the intro!
Not many of us have the level of patience to do that kind of work. Amazing.
Fascinating to watch. Always beautiful work. ❤
These must be very expensive to buy new, as all that skilled labour hours cannot be cheap. Great to watch a craftsman in action
Refreshing to see very skilled labor. I'll be following your work.
Amazing. I'd never think the dents would come out.
That is off to a GREAT Start! I don't think they ever made a horn that you couldn't fix! I wonder how many times that one fell off the bus!? Fantastic video, as always!
Man is a true artist
Good video. Thanks for sharing.
love all of it!
Hello from Russia, good job
I have watched several of these videos now and there is no doubt that you are a highly skilled craftsman. Artisan even. What I can't help but wonder about though, is how in the world do these horns get that beat up? Some of them look as though the damage may have been intentional.
Really enjoy watching you work your magic on those horns. It's amazing. Thanks for sharing.
Love your channel!
Love your work. I appreciate it. Thank you so much.
It's amazing the repairability of brass instruments. Just takes a lot of elbow grease and the right tools.
I'm so happy to see another long term project on the channel! Personally not a fan of shorts when it comes to instrument repair. Need that hands on experience 😊
good video, esp. the welded post idea, car repairers use it to dent pull too, esp. if the job has to be painted anyway, and it saves having to expand from the inside (esp. if you can't).
I would definitely love to take a closer look at your “post raising tool”! I’ve used a similar technique over the last year by soldering a saxophone post and raising it with the sax post tool.
That's what I did for 20+ years. Worked quite a bit of the time.
I have 4 or 5 of them, different shapes. I have sax post as well, but sometimes it has too much surface area. But thinking about it after the fact, after that first round, maybe could have gotten the wider flanged sax post to raise that area more. Next time.
Yes please.
Very cool to see this instrument restored. I enjoy your fine work and patter. Keep em coming!
@paulãofunileiro olha isso mestre funilaria tumba instrumento músical 🎷
Love the intro - great content!
You are an amazing craftsman. I love your channel and your work on the Tuba is over the top fantastic!!
the amount of damage was terrifying, nice work!
Love these videos, thanks so much!
Thank you again, so inspiring to see just what can be “saved”.
Impressive cleanup on that dent. Looking forward to seeing it good as new. I remember pulling tubas out of the chem clean dip. Always a fun time. Thanks for sharing!
👍👍👍 see you later ! ☺
Your patience humbles me-well done!
I've got to bring my tuba in for similar treatment.
Always interesting ..never thought you would straighten it, but rather replace .. 👍
Отличная работа! 👍👍👍 привет из России!🖐️
Владимир.
Daron and I have used that dent procedure before. We used the slide hammer that is available and used a piece of brass bar with a hole drilled in it. It gave us more surface area for the solder while allowing us to shape the bar to our need. Great video.
I’ve got several different versions of this theme, sometimes they work more than others. This one moved a bit and did save some time. Hope y’all are doing well buddy!
I’ve always found soldering a plug and pulling large dents out before doing traditional dent work to be really effective. Typically on thicker brass I use the same style tool you fashioned to use a striking motion. But for thinner brass and really wide dents I usually just pull on the plug with vice grips by hand in one motion so the brass doesn’t flex. I found it comes up more and takes less time.
very great skill and knowledge about materials.
I just began work on an S curve tube that has creases on opposite sides, so I am appreciative that you explained hammering the creases is important. I am wondering if always chasing creases away from the deepest part of a dent is how to prevent folds.
Thank you so much I did not know my 3 slide could come out
That’s pretty severe. Quite a challenge. I can’t wait to see the final work.
I subscribed to him with 3 thousand subscribers
Wes. Ever see how race teams get dents out of dirtbike exhausts? Water pressure! Kinda neat.
Bring on part 2!
you should try glue pulling like used in pdr in body shops
When you send the instrument back, do you include a video of what it took to fix it ?
Have you considered using Hydroforming to remove large dents? Seal off the dented section and pressurise it with water, which will press harder against dents and other imperfections than the rest of the makeshift pressure vessel, rounding things off to at least a decent starting point.
amazing work you do
Watching you do this repair. I’m wondering if you could use some of the PDR (paint less dent repair) tools and techniques that they use in auto bodywork. It’s using adhesives to glue pull tabs on metal to aid in pulling dents. I’ve been watching some PDR videos in preparation to fix damage done to my wife’s vehicle.
Perfekt 👍
trabalho fantástico! ansioso por mais videos.
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Al español,muchas gracias: trabajo muy valioso.😊
God bless you for continuing a profession that relies on our God-given physical talents. I do have a question tho - in this case, wouldn’t it have been better to just replace the two largest damaged parts? I see on Yamaha’s website, you can buy any part on the instrument. Curious also as to the total number of hours you put into this restoration.
When you repair dented instruments can or does it affect the sound quality. I'm amazed at your skills.
Looks like a kid threw it out of a bus window on the highway. Nice work!
Got any tricks for removing a bow alone. Very good work love your videos.
Was thinking, "You need a dent puller...."!
Next you might try taking an old jigsaw, remove the base plate, and attach a padded wooden or rawhide "fist" where the blade goes, and use that for tippy-tapping creases. No as much tactile sensation, but might speed things up and save some effort. Such things are used in hospital respiratory therapy departments to help clear lungs.
That jigsaw idea is really a good one!
My dad's a body man now days we use a stud welder and pull dents with the same slide hammer
Fascinating to watch you work. Thank you. Have you considered sealing both ends of a dented part and plugging in a pressure washer to blow out the dents?
Have you seen people doing painless dent repair on cars? They often hot-glue little plastic attachments onto the painted car body panel and then use a slide-hammer to pull out the dents. It could work on your instruments.
It works to an extent. Brass is a lot more malleable than sheet steel, so it tends to deform and has to be worked back into place, whereas sheet steel is easier to "pop" the dent out of because it's so much harder and more springy. It (sheet steel) retains it's memory better, so to speak.
Softer metals tend to be less forgiving.
Source: many years in a paint and body shop, but I work with brass, copper and aluminum as a hobby.
Wes, your work is amazing. How many actual hours did it take you to pull out those dents you worked on today?
I think this part took 3 hours. I was filming. The 4 part series took 2 days.
I always want to know what happened to it and why did it happen?
When I watch this, I wondered, is there a tool that holds that ball, and vibrates so you can put pressure on the piece being repaired and let the vibrations work like little hammer taps? That would be an interesting experiment.
I wonder if you could use a pressure cuff to expand the metal.
Wes what about using 'hot glue tabs' as they do on cars when they do 'paintless dent removal '
Is there a tool consisting of a pneumatic bladder that can be snaked inside a sever dent like these and used to push outwards?
This is a lot like body work. They weld rods onto the bent in body panel and then pull it out just like you did.
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On first sight, that tuba looks like it was in a demolition derby.
Not sure how that damage happened but there was some anger involved 😔
that technique reminds me of the Same process as pulling a dent on a car
26:35 why not using a laser pointer pointing on the ball?
yes, good tip, but at 11:04 this is called a 'rose_bud', welders use it for manipulating metal, NOT for welding or braising, as this produces a fat large fire, not a controlled beam of heat.
Hi Mr.I have a smaller tuba .it's very old and the bell comes appart.Is a two pieces tuba.
I heard some people get rid of dents by making it super cold in the tuba, air locking it then letting it warm up again and dents pop out
The soldered stud worked well enough, but you would be better off buying a modern stud gun. You would most likely have to make your own brass studs, but a spot welded stud would be a fair bit stronger. With it being made out of the same material, you wouldn't have to worry about the solder causing a light spot on the brass.
You do amazing things Wes, but what I want to know is how the hell does an instrument end up looking like that ? Seriously that looks almost deliberate with multiple attempts to smash up the tubes !
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This is awesome! The damage is unbelievable! How many man hours do you estimate will go in to the repair of this horn?
I was the camera person for this 2 day event.
I would like to know how the damages occur ?
The end of a bow of my tuba is been a little. How would I fix it?
Honest question? Is repairing what’s seems to be a cheaper instrument cheaper than just buying a new one? Your work is amazing but is the instrument really the same after that much damage?
l appreciate watching a great craftsman do his magic !!! THANK YOU !!!
Were is your email address. I am a retired tool designer, amongst a lot of other crafts. Id like to brainstorm some with you, to come up with shortcut tooling, that only YOU have....just for giggles. I have watched your channel for quite a while.
Why solder and not glue for dent pulling?
Another thing car body people use is air-bags that go inside and inflate. They come with a rubber bulb to blow them up. I suspect one of these inside that crushed pipe might push it out effectively.
For automotive paintless dent repair they use Hotglue and special puller tabs, with slide hammer. I wonder how well it would work in this application. You can even get a cheap set on Amazon.
Tried the hot glue method but did not work on my applications. Thanks
How did that tuba get so damaged?