3 fold witness. Nature, conscience, preachers. Not every human in history was given a Preacher of Jesus Christ. We trust God is fair according to his grace and mercy. I think most Christians know this instinctualy but it's hard to express without running into scripture on the complex subject. This was vary well navigated. It's OK to say we don't know.
Paul asked the question, is God unrighteous who taketh vengeance? In the OT, the Lord through His prophets asked, Israel, why will ye die? Agreed, Bishop, it IS choice that saves us or condemns us.
When Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, he said My punishment is greater than I can bear. Gen 4:10-16. So, eternal separation from God would hell within itself.
Agree! I wouldn't wish that permanent disconnect for Anyone ~ and is most definitely not for me. I choose to love and serve and live for the One Lord & God whom I know as Jesus💟🙏
The "eternal experience" for the wicked (after they are individually punished for their own wrong doings) is complete annihilation. That's what the Scriptures teach. _Malachi 4:1 NKJV "For behold, the day is coming, Burning like an oven, And all the proud, yes, all who do wickedly will be stubble. And the day which is coming shall burn them up," Says the LORD of hosts, "That will leave them neither root nor branch._
We are born with the sin nature from the time of birth.even as Christians we sin.because we have a sin nature in us.born on our way to hell but God made a way for people who are sinners.. that is Jesus Christ.god doesn't send people to hell.people do by not excepting Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior... you sir are excellent on the bible.thank you pastor....
Jesus preached more about hell than he did heaven. What does that tell you? Preacher's seldom preach about it anymore because it is negative. I think we all need to be reminded of such of horrible place for anyone saved or not saved.
Jesus was usually talking about death or destruction when he was talking about Hell. Not the final destination of the wicked. There were several different words in the Greek text that were translated as "Hell". Not all were references to the final destination of the wicked.
God has really hamstrung is in that - not only do we have to battle the carnal nature, God saw fit to put devils down here with us whuch really makes it very hard to always make good and right free-will choices.
Brother, please work also into this discussion, also, predestination, also, unless the Father draws him, with,(Jn,3:16)😳🤔also, Where was the free choice of being born into this Life of sin,??,(Thrown Existence)??(Responsibility without Authority,??),our choice to be born into this world of sin,??Even Adam never had choice to be born,🤔,??,,,God knowing the ending from the beginning,,, 🤔 These Paradoxical balances still perplex my understandings,🙏♥️
A reality check: "I will not contend forever, nor will I always be angry; for the spirit would grow faint before me, and the breath of life that I made." (Isaiah 57:16) "The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end." (Lamentations 3:22) "The Lord will not cast off forever." (Lamentations 3:31) "He does not retain his anger forever, because he delights in mercy." (Micah 7:18) "O you who hear prayer, to you shall all flesh come. When iniquities prevail against me, you atone for our transgressions." (Psalm 65:2-3) "All your works will give thanks to you, O Lord" (Psalm 145:10a)
In the parable of the talents and each servant got a different reward and unbelievers will be judged according to their works. This means there positive rewards and negative rewards.
If He "will not violate your free will", can someone devote their life to sin, reject Jesus, but then, in accordance with their own free will, decline eternity in hell? After all, if God is so dedicated to honoring human free will, then certainly he will honor someone's free will choice not to enter hell.
@@alwaysadawg6488 You’ve made your choice of your own free will by the time you make it to eternity. Once your life ends here on this earth, there will be no other decisions to make. Every decision has a consequence (good or bad) and no one is free from those.
@@alwaysadawg6488 you shouldn’t need a Bible verse to explain common sense. It’s like planning your funeral, you cant say you want to be buried in your black suit but then come back after death and decide you wanna wear the blue suit instead. You have to make your plans before you’re go. However, the verses you seek are Hebrews 9:27- it’s appointed unto man once to die and THEN comes the judgement. And John 5:28-29….. The decision to accept or reject God’s free gift of salvation must be done before you draw your last breath on this earth. The wages of sin is death and somebody has to pay the bill. so If you accept Jesus, then His sacrifice covers your sins but if you don’t then you assume the responsibility of paying the bill. It has to be paid one way or another. Is there any other god that you’re aware of who came down to this earth in the flesh and gave his life to save you and provide an escape from the hell that you deserve?
The idea of TORTURING people in Hell for eternity is not biblical. Hell is a place of torment because one is separated from God. It's not a place where people are tortured by being burnt like when they used to torture people by burning them alive.
Good discussion. I would add this: It would seem that the Bible teaches that on a scale of 0-- 10 for sinfulness, we don't start out at 0 and add sins on until they accumulate so much that we are condemned but it seems we start out at negative 10 in that we are condemned already and it's impossible to be righteous by our own means. That seems to be what John 3 teaches. Thanks.
It takes receiving the Holy Ghost to overcome our flesh and live faithfully for Christ and obedient to his Word, and Paul the Apostle had to "die daily" to his sin through repentance and be renewed each day in the Holy Ghost, and without the Spirit of Christ one cannot enter into the Kingdom. Acts 2:38🕊
Interesting that the concept of Limbo has been abandoned as dogma by the Catholic church - scant consolation for generations of mothers of dead babies that weren't baptised.
Act’s 13:46 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should have first been spoken to you: and seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles. Just like Brother Barnard said. You will be judged by your response to Gods Word! And be judged accordingly.
The Bible says that the smoke of the torment will rise forever. It's an everlasting torment. It's not torture, thought. People aren't literally burnt. It's torment. Not torture.
@@bestyoutubechannelever3206 thank you for your comment. The Bible does says that, "they will be tormented day and night forever and ever." It further states that, "These will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life." A careful student of the Bible should review the meaning of these passages in light of the Scriptures. To put it in a different way, anyone who wants to understand what these passages mean should interpret them by other biblical passages that talk about terms such as "Forever and ever" or "everlasting fire", etc. For example, Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed with "eternal fire." Yet, that fire is not still burning even though it is described as "eternal." Another example. The Lord destroyed Edom with a fire that "shall not be quenched night or day, it's smoke shall ascend forever." Yet, you go travel all over the Middle East and you will not see that smoke. You will not find it because this isn't what the meaning of "forever" when it comes to judgement, punishment, tourment, smoke, etc. mean in the Scriptures. I recommend you get my book: "Resurrection vs. Life after death" if you want to understand this biblical teaching. It's available at orion-publishing website. God bless.
Don't make it hard. God isn't sending us to hell. He gave us the right to choose. If we go to hell, we did it by our own choice. Do you love his creation, or do you love God? I like his creation ( at least the part that man hasn't destroyed.) But, I Love Him!!!
It’s a choice they make on their own. EZEKIEL 33:11 King James Bible Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
Colossians 2:9 For in Him (Jesus) dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. Pastor Bernard has so many good discussions and lessons on the oneness of God you can find some right here on TH-cam. Check them out, the more you listen and hear the scriptures on oneness the more they will flow out of your mouth like a river. but do keep in mind, the person must want the revelation and understanding. many many people refuse to hear and receive it so the revelation will not open to them. I also love this following lesson Fast forward to the teaching if you don't want to hear the singing. th-cam.com/video/-c6gwDp1hVI/w-d-xo.html
@@LoulouVitt also You can let them know that in 1 John 5:7 it says “There are three that bear record in heaven, The Father, The Word, And the Holy Spirit, and these three are one” it does not say that these three are 3 separate beings coexisting eternally. It says That They are ONE 🙏🏻
One God in three manifestations. Hence the name of Jesus Christ is credited to the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost, as the name of Jesus Christ is credited to the Being of God, whio is a Spirit. (John 4:24.) Acts 2:38 is the fulfillment of Matthew 28:19.
Im apostolic and I have studied hell in depth and I have to say that the doctrine of annihilation is absolutely Biblical. If you study scripture in its original languages, satan and unbelievers will be annihilated in the lake of fire... the Bible doesn't teach eternal hell... it says they "will be no more" after being thrown into the lake of fire. It is very clear in Greek and Hebrew and there is no indication that a sinner has an eternal soul or that the lake of fire lasts forever. The English versions mistranslate this subject. I urge you to listen to a Pentecostal preacher named Edward Fudge or read his book called "The Fire That Consumes". It is purely based on the Bible and is the result of decades of study. Be at peace.
Am I understanding correctly that hell will not be an lake of fire, people burning and screaming, and an endless thirst for water? Or will it be these things but the worse thing will be God’s presence isnt there?
It's not a place where people are literally burnt like when they used to burn people at the stake. Hell is a place of torment. Not torture. It's a place of eternal separation from God. All that is good and perfect comes from God. If you are separated from good you will be in a place where there is nothing good or perfect at all. Right now, here on Earth, as bad as things are sometimes, the spirit of God is here. It came on the day of Pentecost. In Hell there is no presence of God anywhere. There is nothing good or perfect there. It all torment.
Thank You! Okay, here's a few additional thoughts on the matter..... The question itself is flawed and assumes facts not in evidence. Perhaps a better question is: Why does God 'allow' people the choice between eternal life (Heaven) and eternal death (Hell)?..... There really is no satisfactory answer for me!.... However, to try and put things in context... God creates things he doesn't like... even things he hates. Why? The obvious answer is because he needs to. It's the only way his creation can function properly. He said so in the first chapter of Genesis. The itemized list of things he created includes things that are described as 'good'. Finally, in Genesis 1:31....."God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good.".... The Hebrew word for 'good' is 'tov' which can be translated as 'functional' or 'in harmony' with God. So, everything together functioned properly.... it worked! WHEN (it wasn't 'if') Adam and Eve chose to consume 'the knowledge of good and evil'... they were no longer 'in harmony' with God and consequently no longer fully functional in God's creation (they became outside of God's will) which causes death. So, back to the original question... Why did God allow this? I would also suggest (as you did) that God didn't want robots or puppets programmed to imitate love. He wanted the real thing. That demands at least one act of disobedience to create 'free will' apart from God's will. Now mankind could freely and truly choose to love God or not. Allowing that single act of disobedience was the only way to create free will. I submit God not only knew Adam and Eve would choose 'knowledge' but also needed them to do so. NOTHING of God is by accident. We all pay a heavy price for our tiny bit of free will. Especially the One God himself as our savior. Was/Is it all worth it?.... God seems to think so.... Regardless, this simple yet harsh truth remains............ Love God..... or..... go to hell. The first step towards loving God is to acknowledge his existence..... (Yep!...there's that word knowledge again). Thanks for reading! Please feel free to pick apart anything I've said or reject it all together. We all have the God given right to CHOOSE!
@@trellusg Okay, fair enough.... How about this instead..... 2 Thessalonians 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power.....
@@mt9567 that is a perfect description of complete annihilation, not a pseudo “eternal death” conscious torment. “Everlasting destruction” means a destruction that is not overcome, that is final. For example, when my earthly body dies, it experiences everlasting destruction. So is destruction for the soul: the soul that sinneth, it shall surely die. This is not conscious, unending torment, but literally “death” - the cessation of existence. Jesus exhorted us to fear not the one who can destroy the body but the one that can DESTROY the body AND SOUL in hell. What is utterly DESTROYED does not exist. The soul is the seat of consciousness, and if the soul is utterly destroyed then so is consciousness.
@@trellusg If Hell (or the lake of fire) is a state of non-existence, why is it described as a 'place'? Why would God need a 'place' for things that no longer exist? Does the concept of complete annihilation or non-existence give you some comfort? If so, why?.... As I recall, the Jehovah Witness's believe in the 'annihilation' or 'non-existence' concept. No doubt there's others. So, you're not alone in this thinking..... Either way, whether a place of 'forever dying' or something more final, at the very least the process seems extremely unpleasant.
@@mt9567 No, the concept of complete annihilation, of non-existence, is hardly comforting at all -- that's precisely why death is so fearful to so many. Neither am I suggesting that anyone take comfort in thinking they can "get away" with stealing from life and being destructive to the creation -- I think that's highly improbable given what we observe in nature. I suspect that the dying process of a human with a guilty conscience is unpleasant. As for why it's described as a "place", "place" needn't be literal. When someone asks you, "where [a 'place'] are you at in your grieving process in the loss of your loved one?" they are not asking about a physical location. Neither does a final "place", even if physical indeed, mean that whomever is put there has consciousness forever to experience having been placed there: after all, if I put the carcass of a rodent in the ground, the fact it's a real place doesn't mean that the decaying, was-rodent is experiencing that place at all.
Bishop maybe next time you need to let the Scriptures talk rather than more on explanation that's the best thing to answer questions that need to be answered by Scriptures. God Bless your ministry..
He doesn't , there is no literal hell for mankind, there is a lake of fire where you burn up in like a couple min then suffer no more once your dead , your dead , the dead know nothing feel nothing See Eccl 9 : 5 Niv bible
A preacher should not try to please the crowd. Too much “I don’t know” in his speech. If a teacher does not know, how much less a common? Let’s,see: Titus 2:14 then Romans 6:23
He loves the sinner, but hates the sin. The wages of sin, is death. If you're not saved, you're of sin, God is eternal, unforgiven sin is eternal, so hell is eternal condemnation. You cannot repent, in hell.
Did Bishop Bernard just say that hell isnt torturing? I am wondering if i am hearing right. I think i also hear him saying that there is no clear info on hell. I really want Bishop to address this matter again. The bible speaks of the rich man and Lazarus. There are a few things i understand thou.
No. He said that there's no demons in hell with pitchforks poking people. (A refutation of Dantes Inferno and the Hellenistic traditions.) He did not go into depth on this matter. A deeper dive would require a college level expository on Hades Vrs Darkness.
@@michaelwaters6829 yes i heard him saying that, but b4 he said that i think he said there is no torturing. Thanks thou. I believe alot of what he says thou.
I heard him say "hell is not a place where "GOD" tortures people" but is in fact a place where God is not present at all. God isn't there burning and whipping... the torment does that, whatever beings created as the tormentors, and the absence of God is the worst torment of all.
@@LoulouVitt Jesus speaks of worm eating ur flesh and all that. Some of what Bishop Bernard says i believe, but some are questionable. I prefer to leave this thing alone.
The rapture is after the great tribulation Matthew 24:15--32 we will be here to face the mark of the beast many of us will lose everything Revelation 13:5--9 Revelation 20:4--5 during this time money will be worthless God will take of the saints
It IS a contradiction. CONSEQUENCE and full JUSTICE requires payment for transgression, and the only way out is MERCY for THOSE who are MERCIFUL. But there is NO "eternal torment" consequence, that is a demonic invention and has nothing to do with God. There is NO analog in the natural world for this twisted concept invented by evil minds. On the other hand, we see CONSEQUENCE (including painful consequence) all the time in nature. We ALSO see MERCY. The WORD OF GOD is out there to SEE. SEE IT.
We are literally all going to hell. God loves us trust me. Also being good in life isn't enough, but you might get the shitty version of heaven bcause YOU DID THIS!
Rev. 19:20 and the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet…these both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. 20:1 and I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 20:2 and he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the devil, and satan, and bound him a thousand years, 20:3 and cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. 20:7 and when the thousand years are expired, satan shall be loosed out of his prison, …to deceive the nations… 20:10 and the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. 20:14 and death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. this is the second death. 20:15 and whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. 21:2 and I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 21:3 and I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, behold, the tabernacle of God with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, their God. 21:4 and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. 21:7 he that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. 21:8 but the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolators, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. 21:24 and the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. 21:27 and there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither worketh abomination, or a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb’s book of life. 22:10 …for the time is at hand. 22:11 he that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. 22:12 and, behold, I come quickly; and my reward with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 22:14 blessed they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 22:15 for without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolators, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, the bright and morning star. 22:17 and the Spirit and the bride say, Come. and let him that heareth say, Come. and let him that is athirst come. and whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
We all fall into the hands of an almighty God just follow what the Bible teaches. Just follow Deuteronomy 6:4 and the teachings of Jesus. Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. John 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
You don't earn salvation through works (Mother Theresa) you earn it through obedience { Acts 2:38). That's your starting block while you sit under a Pastor SENT OF GOD.
We are saved by God's grace thru faith. If you believe that you r a sinner and will be judged by God, God then sends u the gospel of Jesus Christ. Then u have a clear choice of either believing the good news that Jesus lived a perfect life, died in your place as a sinner to reconcile you to a just and holy God. Jesus then rose again to life. There is nothing you add to that redemption work or take away from it. It is perfect and it finished. Or u can choose to believe that Jesus died for ur sins but then you have to also work towards ur salvation or u have to also keep the law in order to be saved. Or u don't believe any of it and choose another god to save u. The only acceptable choice to God is the first choice. We will not bring any of our works to God on judgement day regarding to be born again. He will share his glory with no one. So oneness or trinity has nothing to do with being born again. There are plenty of people in every denomination that are going to heaven and are going to hell. And people that don't even go to church that are going heaven because they have believed on Jesus Christ to save them and give them eternal life. Once u r born again then u can focus on doctrine and grow in Christ. But the person who is not born again can never truly understand the word of God.
God NEVER sends anyone to hell! It's the people themselves decided to be thrown to hell! 2 Corinthians 5:5 [5]God is the one who has prepared us for this change, and he gave us his Spirit as the guarantee of all that he has in store for us. Ezekiel 18:18-27,29-32 [18]His father, on the other hand, cheated and robbed, and always did evil to everyone. And so he died because of the sins he himself had committed. [19]“But you ask, ‘Why shouldn't the son suffer because of his father's sins?’ The answer is that the son did what was right and good. He kept my laws and followed them carefully, and so he will certainly live. [20]It is the one who sins who will die. A son is not to suffer because of his father's sins, nor a father because of the sins of his son. A good person will be rewarded for doing good, and an evil person will suffer for the evil he does. [21]“If an evil person stops sinning and keeps my laws, if he does what is right and good, he will not die; he will certainly live. [22]All his sins will be forgiven, and he will live, because he did what is right. [23]Do you think I enjoy seeing an evil person die?” asks the Sovereign Lord. “No, I would rather see him repent and live. [24]“But if a righteous person stops doing good and starts doing all the evil, disgusting things that evil people do, will he go on living? No! None of the good he did will be remembered. He will die because of his unfaithfulness and his sins. [25]“But you say, ‘What the Lord does isn't right.’ Listen to me, you Israelites. Do you think my way of doing things isn't right? It is your way that isn't right. [26]When a righteous person stops doing good and starts doing evil and then dies, he dies because of the evil he has done. [27]When someone evil stops sinning and does what is right and good, he saves his life. [29]And you Israelites say, ‘What the Lord does isn't right.’ You think my way isn't right, do you? It is your way that isn't right. [30]“Now I, the Sovereign Lord, am telling you Israelites that I will judge each of you by what you have done. Turn away from all the evil you are doing, and don't let your sin destroy you. [31]Give up all the evil you have been doing, and get yourselves new minds and hearts. Why do you Israelites want to die? [32]I do not want anyone to die,” says the Sovereign Lord. “Turn away from your sins and live.” 2 Corinthians 5:5 [5]God is the one who has prepared us for this change, and he gave us his Spirit as the guarantee of all that he has in store for us.
@@burningheartsministriesmis1488 you said God is fair. First correct that openly. God is not fair. He is just. Romans 9 9-18.. correction the person in the video said God is fair. No. God is just. Both the justifier and just. Most misinterpreting scripture.
@@burningheartsministriesmis1488 faith? Whose faith is it? Rightfully dividing the word of truth. Predestination by Election. Romans 8 29-30 Romans 9 9-18. Sanctification Deuteronomy 14, 2 Reconciliation 2 Corinthians 5 19-20 Regeneration Titus 3,5 John 3, 3 Justification Romans 4 1-6 Glorification Acts 1, 9 1 Corinthians 15 52-53. Justification is by faith OF JESUS CHRIST NOT IN JESUS CHRIST. ALONE. NOT BY WORKS LEST ANY MAN SHOULD BOAST. EPH 2, 8 TITUS 3,5. JAMES 2, 23.
The "wrong choice" is the TERMINAL choice -- not one of some make believe torment that conscious souls endure in a pseudo eternal life that is dystopian and horrific. There is ALWAYS a way out as long as there is any LIFE. You cannot call the "lake of fire" a place of conscious eternal death of some sort -- that is oxymoronic and completely irrational besides being genuinely twisted and blaspheming God, who is Good and Just and whose MERCY ENDURES *FOREVER*.
I do not know if your objection to the concept of hell has its root in what I am about to say below...but many who reject Hell's REALITY hold belief in the argument posed to Dr. Bernard. I propose that those who hold this view of Hell, do so because they are only able to imagine it from natural (carnal) experience. We are spiritual beings in the robes of flesh......who mistakenly imagine eternal things from the PERSPECTIVE of our earthborn experiences. In Revelation 10:6, the Word declares that: 5¶The angel whom I saw standing on the sea and on the land raised up his hand to heaven 6And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be TIME NO LONGER: The unimaginable, incomprehensible thought of ETERNITY, causes some to outright reject the Biblical account of Hell. They fail to associate the transition from flesh + spirit to spirit (alone). Spiritual Beings have no concept of time......they simply exist. They don't age....grow old, etc. It is not like someone in prison on Earth. Individuals will not be marking time on the wall... with a determined day (either through death or completion of sentence) set for release. The finite nature of terrene imprisonment, offers a sense of relief....even as one agonizes over the loss of freedom. TIME serves as a limitational construct, by which fallen man can exercise his free will and CHOOSE to love and obey his creator. Earth/life is the testing ground where we are proven. Therefore, a Spiritual being in Hell, is NOT synonymous with the earthly experience......because TIME is a non-factor. TIME is the primary Culprit of suffering in earthly imprisonment, due to bodily expiration. We cannot recapture what has been lost. Yet this same TIME is the source of relief, because it sets limits on suffering. The word Eternal only serves as a juxtaposition to time. Those in Hell, will simply be.....as a state of existence.
@@tefferro I know that argument you are proposing but it falls apart under examination. Jesus told us to not fear the one who can onto destroy the body but the one who can destroy body AND SOUL in hell. The body was made to pass; and for this reason we should not fear the death of the body as it is inevitable. But the SOUL is the very seat of consciousness- if the SOUL is DESTROYED, then so is consciousness. There is no eternal life outside of the very source of BEING (I AM), and consciousness is utterly destroyed without an intact soul, and Jesus tells us that there is one who can destroy the soul.
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3 fold witness. Nature, conscience, preachers. Not every human in history was given a Preacher of Jesus Christ. We trust God is fair according to his grace and mercy. I think most Christians know this instinctualy but it's hard to express without running into scripture on the complex subject. This was vary well navigated. It's OK to say we don't know.
Well spoken. I agree with your use of scripture. God Bless you. Jesus is coming soon!!
Excellent!! Thank you, Bro. Bishop!! I hope to share this with my friends!!! 14:15
HE never changes whether Ot or NT.
Paul asked the question, is God unrighteous who taketh vengeance?
In the OT, the Lord through His prophets asked, Israel, why will ye die?
Agreed, Bishop, it IS choice that saves us or condemns us.
When Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, he said My punishment is greater than I can bear. Gen 4:10-16. So, eternal separation from God would hell within itself.
Hellfire is a real place that burns
Agree! I wouldn't wish that permanent disconnect for Anyone ~ and is most definitely not for me. I choose to love and serve and live for the One Lord & God whom I know as Jesus💟🙏
@@rtoguidver3651Anyplace without JeSs is hell.
I love you Jesus 💕
Excellent Bishop. As usual!! 🙌🏽
The main thing I glean from this 17 minutes was to simply TRUST GOD! (There is a lot more we dont know then what we do know..) amen
The "eternal experience" for the wicked (after they are individually punished for their own wrong doings) is complete annihilation. That's what the Scriptures teach. _Malachi 4:1 NKJV "For behold, the day is coming, Burning like an oven, And all the proud, yes, all who do wickedly will be stubble. And the day which is coming shall burn them up," Says the LORD of hosts, "That will leave them neither root nor branch._
Hell is an event that destroys sin and sinners.
We are born with the sin nature from the time of birth.even as Christians we sin.because we have a sin nature in us.born on our way to hell but God made a way for people who are sinners.. that is Jesus Christ.god doesn't send people to hell.people do by not excepting Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior... you sir are excellent on the bible.thank you pastor....
This was great!
This has been amazing
Jesus preached more about hell than he did heaven. What does that tell you? Preacher's seldom preach about it anymore because it is negative. I think we all need to be reminded of such of horrible place for anyone saved or not saved.
Jesus was usually talking about death or destruction when he was talking about Hell. Not the final destination of the wicked. There were several different words in the Greek text that were translated as "Hell". Not all were references to the final destination of the wicked.
Amen.
@@bestyoutubechannelever3206What is the final destination of the wicked? Have you read Dante's Inferno? It talks about 9 gates of hell.
It is much worse o be without GoD.
@@bestyoutubechannelever3206 Brother you are delusional.
God has really hamstrung is in that - not only do we have to battle the carnal nature, God saw fit to put devils down here with us whuch really makes it very hard to always make good and right free-will choices.
Because he loves you that much!
Thank you brother for your beutiful question that was in me too.
That’s was amazing God bless
Do Dr David K Bernard have church in Canadian Toronto Ontario please let me know thank you 🙏🏻
Brother, please work also into this discussion, also, predestination, also, unless the Father draws him, with,(Jn,3:16)😳🤔also, Where was the free choice of being born into this Life of sin,??,(Thrown Existence)??(Responsibility without Authority,??),our choice to be born into this world of sin,??Even Adam never had choice to be born,🤔,??,,,God knowing the ending from the beginning,,, 🤔 These Paradoxical balances still perplex my understandings,🙏♥️
A reality check:
"I will not contend forever, nor will I always be angry; for the spirit would grow faint before me, and the breath of life that I made." (Isaiah 57:16)
"The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end." (Lamentations 3:22)
"The Lord will not cast off forever." (Lamentations 3:31)
"He does not retain his anger forever, because he delights in mercy." (Micah 7:18)
"O you who hear prayer, to you shall all flesh come. When iniquities prevail against me, you atone for our transgressions." (Psalm 65:2-3)
"All your works will give thanks to you, O Lord" (Psalm 145:10a)
In the parable of the talents and each servant got a different reward and unbelievers will be judged according to their works. This means there positive rewards and negative rewards.
When we submit to God, we say “Lord, your will be done”. When we reject God, He says “Your will
be done.” He will not violate your free will.
If He "will not violate your free will", can someone devote their life to sin, reject Jesus, but then, in accordance with their own free will, decline eternity in hell? After all, if God is so dedicated to honoring human free will, then certainly he will honor someone's free will choice not to enter hell.
@@alwaysadawg6488 You’ve made your choice of your own free will by the time you make it to eternity. Once your life ends here on this earth, there will be no other decisions to make. Every decision has a consequence (good or bad) and no one is free from those.
@@Gwenny712 Where in the Bible does it say that decision making ends when your earthly life does?
@@alwaysadawg6488 you shouldn’t need a Bible verse to explain common sense. It’s like planning your funeral, you cant say you want to be buried in your black suit but then come back after death and decide you wanna wear the blue suit instead. You have to make your plans before you’re go. However, the verses you seek are Hebrews 9:27- it’s appointed unto man once to die and THEN comes the judgement. And John 5:28-29….. The decision to accept or reject God’s free gift of salvation must be done before you draw your last breath on this earth. The wages of sin is death and somebody has to pay the bill. so If you accept Jesus, then His sacrifice covers your sins but if you don’t then you assume the responsibility of paying the bill. It has to be paid one way or another. Is there any other god that you’re aware of who came down to this earth in the flesh and gave his life to save you and provide an escape from the hell that you deserve?
what the difference between repent and penance
The idea of tormenting people in he'll for eternity is not biblical.
The idea of TORTURING people in Hell for eternity is not biblical. Hell is a place of torment because one is separated from God. It's not a place where people are tortured by being burnt like when they used to torture people by burning them alive.
Right!
Hell to being the grave.
where else are you going to put them? should God bless and gift them?
Good discussion. I would add this: It would seem that the Bible teaches that on a scale of 0-- 10 for sinfulness, we don't start out at 0 and add sins on until they accumulate so much that we are condemned but it seems we start out at negative 10 in that we are condemned already and it's impossible to be righteous by our own means. That seems to be what John 3 teaches. Thanks.
It takes receiving the Holy Ghost to overcome our flesh and live faithfully for Christ and obedient to his Word, and Paul the Apostle had to "die daily" to his sin through repentance and be renewed each day in the Holy Ghost, and without the Spirit of Christ one cannot enter into the Kingdom. Acts 2:38🕊
Interesting that the concept of Limbo has been abandoned as dogma by the Catholic church - scant consolation for generations of mothers of dead babies that weren't baptised.
Act’s 13:46 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should have first been spoken to you: and seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles. Just like Brother Barnard said. You will be judged by your response to Gods Word! And be judged accordingly.
The idea that he'll is living outside of God or that people will be tormented for ceaseless time in hell is not biblical.
The Bible says that the smoke of the torment will rise forever. It's an everlasting torment. It's not torture, thought. People aren't literally burnt. It's torment. Not torture.
@@bestyoutubechannelever3206 thank you for your comment. The Bible does says that, "they will be tormented day and night forever and ever." It further states that, "These will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life." A careful student of the Bible should review the meaning of these passages in light of the Scriptures. To put it in a different way, anyone who wants to understand what these passages mean should interpret them by other biblical passages that talk about terms such as "Forever and ever" or "everlasting fire", etc. For example, Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed with "eternal fire." Yet, that fire is not still burning even though it is described as "eternal." Another example. The Lord destroyed Edom with a fire that "shall not be quenched night or day, it's smoke shall ascend forever." Yet, you go travel all over the Middle East and you will not see that smoke. You will not find it because this isn't what the meaning of "forever" when it comes to judgement, punishment, tourment, smoke, etc. mean in the Scriptures. I recommend you get my book: "Resurrection vs. Life after death" if you want to understand this biblical teaching. It's available at orion-publishing website. God bless.
@@bestyoutubechannelever3206 The wicked would become burned up and destroyed. To not undergo ceaseless torment. The wages of sin_____is death.
@@romanpawlak6193 Yes!
Funny enough from the other day i have been thinking about the same things. Hell and if there are stages and all that.
Don't make it hard. God isn't sending us to hell. He gave us the right to choose. If we go to hell, we did it by our own choice. Do you love his creation, or do you love God? I like his creation ( at least the part that man hasn't destroyed.) But, I Love Him!!!
So do you keep the 10 commandments?
No ever burning hell
Don't blame GOD for all the rules, he loves you so much in hell too!
Heaven have more to offer than hell by biblical standards.
No ever burning hell
To no ever burning hell
It’s a choice they make on their own.
EZEKIEL 33:11
King James Bible
Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
Because He gave them a choice.
When trying to explain the oneness, sometimes their stance is “3 in 1” and I’m not sure how to rebuttal that
Colossians 2:9 For in Him (Jesus) dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. Pastor Bernard has so many good discussions and lessons on the oneness of God you can find some right here on TH-cam. Check them out, the more you listen and hear the scriptures on oneness the more they will flow out of your mouth like a river. but do keep in mind, the person must want the revelation and understanding. many many people refuse to hear and receive it so the revelation will not open to them. I also love this following lesson
Fast forward to the teaching if you don't want to hear the singing. th-cam.com/video/-c6gwDp1hVI/w-d-xo.html
Here's another good message on the oneness of God by William Davis, entitled "The Godhead Made Simple"
th-cam.com/video/BP6uiBuZ3NA/w-d-xo.html
@@LoulouVitt also You can let them know that in 1 John 5:7 it says “There are three that bear record in heaven, The Father, The Word, And the Holy Spirit, and these three are one” it does not say that these three are 3 separate beings coexisting eternally. It says That They are ONE 🙏🏻
One God in three manifestations.
Hence the name of Jesus Christ is credited to the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost, as the name of Jesus Christ is credited to the Being of God, whio is a Spirit. (John 4:24.)
Acts 2:38 is the fulfillment of Matthew 28:19.
Im apostolic and I have studied hell in depth and I have to say that the doctrine of annihilation is absolutely Biblical. If you study scripture in its original languages, satan and unbelievers will be annihilated in the lake of fire... the Bible doesn't teach eternal hell... it says they "will be no more" after being thrown into the lake of fire. It is very clear in Greek and Hebrew and there is no indication that a sinner has an eternal soul or that the lake of fire lasts forever. The English versions mistranslate this subject. I urge you to listen to a Pentecostal preacher named Edward Fudge or read his book called "The Fire That Consumes". It is purely based on the Bible and is the result of decades of study. Be at peace.
I admire him
Am I understanding correctly that hell will not be an lake of fire, people burning and screaming, and an endless thirst for water? Or will it be these things but the worse thing will be God’s presence isnt there?
It's not a place where people are literally burnt like when they used to burn people at the stake. Hell is a place of torment. Not torture.
It's a place of eternal separation from God. All that is good and perfect comes from God. If you are separated from good you will be in a place where there is nothing good or perfect at all.
Right now, here on Earth, as bad as things are sometimes, the spirit of God is here. It came on the day of Pentecost. In Hell there is no presence of God anywhere. There is nothing good or perfect there. It all torment.
Its a place burning with fire and brimstone
That's not hell. Hell to being the grave.
Thank You! Okay, here's a few additional thoughts on the matter..... The question itself is flawed and assumes facts not in evidence. Perhaps a better question is: Why does God 'allow' people the choice between eternal life (Heaven) and eternal death (Hell)?..... There really is no satisfactory answer for me!.... However, to try and put things in context... God creates things he doesn't like... even things he hates. Why? The obvious answer is because he needs to. It's the only way his creation can function properly. He said so in the first chapter of Genesis. The itemized list of things he created includes things that are described as 'good'. Finally, in Genesis 1:31....."God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good.".... The Hebrew word for 'good' is 'tov' which can be translated as 'functional' or 'in harmony' with God. So, everything together functioned properly.... it worked!
WHEN (it wasn't 'if') Adam and Eve chose to consume 'the knowledge of good and evil'... they were no longer 'in harmony' with God and consequently no longer fully functional in God's creation (they became outside of God's will) which causes death. So, back to the original question... Why did God allow this? I would also suggest (as you did) that God didn't want robots or puppets programmed to imitate love. He wanted the real thing. That demands at least one act of disobedience to create 'free will' apart from God's will. Now mankind could freely and truly choose to love God or not. Allowing that single act of disobedience was the only way to create free will. I submit God not only knew Adam and Eve would choose 'knowledge' but also needed them to do so. NOTHING of God is by accident. We all pay a heavy price for our tiny bit of free will. Especially the One God himself as our savior. Was/Is it all worth it?.... God seems to think so....
Regardless, this simple yet harsh truth remains............ Love God..... or..... go to hell.
The first step towards loving God is to acknowledge his existence..... (Yep!...there's that word knowledge again). Thanks for reading! Please feel free to pick apart anything I've said or reject it all together. We all have the God given right to CHOOSE!
"Eternal death" is an oxymoron. The only thing eternal IS LIFE.
@@trellusg Okay, fair enough.... How about this instead..... 2 Thessalonians 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power.....
@@mt9567 that is a perfect description of complete annihilation, not a pseudo “eternal death” conscious torment.
“Everlasting destruction” means a destruction that is not overcome, that is final. For example, when my earthly body dies, it experiences everlasting destruction.
So is destruction for the soul: the soul that sinneth, it shall surely die. This is not conscious, unending torment, but literally “death” - the cessation of existence.
Jesus exhorted us to fear not the one who can destroy the body but the one that can DESTROY the body AND SOUL in hell.
What is utterly DESTROYED does not exist. The soul is the seat of consciousness, and if the soul is utterly destroyed then so is consciousness.
@@trellusg If Hell (or the lake of fire) is a state of non-existence, why is it described as a 'place'? Why would God need a 'place' for things that no longer exist? Does the concept of complete annihilation or non-existence give you some comfort? If so, why?.... As I recall, the Jehovah Witness's believe in the 'annihilation' or 'non-existence' concept. No doubt there's others. So, you're not alone in this thinking..... Either way, whether a place of 'forever dying' or something more final, at the very least the process seems extremely unpleasant.
@@mt9567 No, the concept of complete annihilation, of non-existence, is hardly comforting at all -- that's precisely why death is so fearful to so many. Neither am I suggesting that anyone take comfort in thinking they can "get away" with stealing from life and being destructive to the creation -- I think that's highly improbable given what we observe in nature. I suspect that the dying process of a human with a guilty conscience is unpleasant.
As for why it's described as a "place", "place" needn't be literal. When someone asks you, "where [a 'place'] are you at in your grieving process in the loss of your loved one?" they are not asking about a physical location.
Neither does a final "place", even if physical indeed, mean that whomever is put there has consciousness forever to experience having been placed there: after all, if I put the carcass of a rodent in the ground, the fact it's a real place doesn't mean that the decaying, was-rodent is experiencing that place at all.
God don't send ppl to hell he just will not tolerate sin or rejection of his truth...
God is the boss! Don't even question anything ever
Bishop maybe next time you need to let the Scriptures talk rather than more on explanation that's the best thing to answer questions that need to be answered by Scriptures. God Bless your ministry..
He doesn't , there is no literal hell for mankind, there is a lake of fire where you burn up in like a couple min then suffer no more once your dead , your dead , the dead know nothing feel nothing See Eccl 9 : 5 Niv bible
No ever burning hell.
The dead sleep in the grave until the resurrection.
Yes!
ZOMBIES!
A preacher should not try to please the crowd. Too much “I don’t know” in his speech. If a teacher does not know, how much less a common?
Let’s,see: Titus 2:14 then Romans 6:23
He loves the sinner, but hates the sin. The wages of sin, is death. If you're not saved, you're of sin, God is eternal, unforgiven sin is eternal, so hell is eternal condemnation. You cannot repent, in hell.
Hell is the grave!
Did Bishop Bernard just say that hell isnt torturing? I am wondering if i am hearing right. I think i also hear him saying that there is no clear info on hell. I really want Bishop to address this matter again. The bible speaks of the rich man and Lazarus. There are a few things i understand thou.
No. He said that there's no demons in hell with pitchforks poking people. (A refutation of Dantes Inferno and the Hellenistic traditions.) He did not go into depth on this matter. A deeper dive would require a college level expository on Hades Vrs Darkness.
@@michaelwaters6829 yes i heard him saying that, but b4 he said that i think he said there is no torturing. Thanks thou. I believe alot of what he says thou.
I heard him say "hell is not a place where "GOD" tortures people" but is in fact a place where God is not present at all. God isn't there burning and whipping... the torment does that, whatever beings created as the tormentors, and the absence of God is the worst torment of all.
@@LoulouVitt Jesus speaks of worm eating ur flesh and all that. Some of what Bishop Bernard says i believe, but some are questionable. I prefer to leave this thing alone.
@@michaelwaters6829 NO IT WOULD NOT READ YOUR BIBLE. THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL LEAD AND GUIDE YOU INTO ALL TRUTH.
When is the rapture
The rapture is after the great tribulation Matthew 24:15--32 we will be here to face the mark of the beast many of us will lose everything Revelation 13:5--9 Revelation 20:4--5 during this time money will be worthless God will take of the saints
Rapture not biblical
It IS a contradiction. CONSEQUENCE and full JUSTICE requires payment for transgression, and the only way out is MERCY for THOSE who are MERCIFUL. But there is NO "eternal torment" consequence, that is a demonic invention and has nothing to do with God. There is NO analog in the natural world for this twisted concept invented by evil minds. On the other hand, we see CONSEQUENCE (including painful consequence) all the time in nature. We ALSO see MERCY. The WORD OF GOD is out there to SEE. SEE IT.
We are literally all going to hell. God loves us trust me. Also being good in life isn't enough, but you might get the shitty version of heaven bcause YOU DID THIS!
Rev. 19:20 and the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet…these both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
20:1 and I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 20:2 and he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the devil, and satan, and bound him a thousand years, 20:3 and cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
20:7 and when the thousand years are expired, satan shall be loosed out of his prison, …to deceive the nations…
20:10 and the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
20:14 and death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. this is the second death. 20:15 and whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
21:2 and I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 21:3 and I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, behold, the tabernacle of God with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, their God. 21:4 and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. 21:7 he that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. 21:8 but the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolators, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
21:24 and the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. 21:27 and there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither worketh abomination, or a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb’s book of life. 22:10 …for the time is at hand.
22:11 he that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. 22:12 and, behold, I come quickly; and my reward with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 22:14 blessed they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 22:15 for without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolators, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, the bright and morning star. 22:17 and the Spirit and the bride say, Come. and let him that heareth say, Come. and let him that is athirst come. and whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
Is a trinitarian saved ?
We all fall into the hands of an almighty God just follow what the Bible teaches.
Just follow Deuteronomy 6:4 and the teachings of Jesus.
Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
John 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
John 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
You don't earn salvation through works (Mother Theresa) you earn it through obedience { Acts 2:38). That's your starting block while you sit under a Pastor SENT OF GOD.
What do you think?
We are saved by God's grace thru faith. If you believe that you r a sinner and will be judged by God, God then sends u the gospel of Jesus Christ. Then u have a clear choice of either believing the good news that Jesus lived a perfect life, died in your place as a sinner to reconcile you to a just and holy God. Jesus then rose again to life. There is nothing you add to that redemption work or take away from it. It is perfect and it finished. Or u can choose to believe that Jesus died for ur sins but then you have to also work towards ur salvation or u have to also keep the law in order to be saved. Or u don't believe any of it and choose another god to save u. The only acceptable choice to God is the first choice. We will not bring any of our works to God on judgement day regarding to be born again. He will share his glory with no one. So oneness or trinity has nothing to do with being born again. There are plenty of people in every denomination that are going to heaven and are going to hell. And people that don't even go to church that are going heaven because they have believed on Jesus Christ to save them and give them eternal life. Once u r born again then u can focus on doctrine and grow in Christ. But the person who is not born again can never truly understand the word of God.
According to the bible, the answer is no. Acts 2:38 and Acts 4:12 and many other scriptures.
God NEVER sends anyone to hell! It's the people themselves decided to be thrown to hell!
2 Corinthians 5:5
[5]God is the one who has prepared us for this change, and he gave us his Spirit as the guarantee of all that he has in store for us.
Ezekiel 18:18-27,29-32
[18]His father, on the other hand, cheated and robbed, and always did evil to everyone. And so he died because of the sins he himself had committed.
[19]“But you ask, ‘Why shouldn't the son suffer because of his father's sins?’ The answer is that the son did what was right and good. He kept my laws and followed them carefully, and so he will certainly live.
[20]It is the one who sins who will die. A son is not to suffer because of his father's sins, nor a father because of the sins of his son. A good person will be rewarded for doing good, and an evil person will suffer for the evil he does.
[21]“If an evil person stops sinning and keeps my laws, if he does what is right and good, he will not die; he will certainly live.
[22]All his sins will be forgiven, and he will live, because he did what is right.
[23]Do you think I enjoy seeing an evil person die?” asks the Sovereign Lord. “No, I would rather see him repent and live.
[24]“But if a righteous person stops doing good and starts doing all the evil, disgusting things that evil people do, will he go on living? No! None of the good he did will be remembered. He will die because of his unfaithfulness and his sins.
[25]“But you say, ‘What the Lord does isn't right.’ Listen to me, you Israelites. Do you think my way of doing things isn't right? It is your way that isn't right.
[26]When a righteous person stops doing good and starts doing evil and then dies, he dies because of the evil he has done.
[27]When someone evil stops sinning and does what is right and good, he saves his life.
[29]And you Israelites say, ‘What the Lord does isn't right.’ You think my way isn't right, do you? It is your way that isn't right.
[30]“Now I, the Sovereign Lord, am telling you Israelites that I will judge each of you by what you have done. Turn away from all the evil you are doing, and don't let your sin destroy you.
[31]Give up all the evil you have been doing, and get yourselves new minds and hearts. Why do you Israelites want to die?
[32]I do not want anyone to die,” says the Sovereign Lord. “Turn away from your sins and live.”
2 Corinthians 5:5
[5]God is the one who has prepared us for this change, and he gave us his Spirit as the guarantee of all that he has in store for us.
No ever burning hell
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God can't allow sin into Heaven.
Pisteo the Greek word for Faith instead of just believing in God we must have Faith because Faith is an action Based on Belief sustained by confidense
Hell is created for the devil and his fallen angels. Justification by faith alone. Romans 4 1-6.
And how is our faith justified? Or how is our faith real, active and made effectual?
@@burningheartsministriesmis1488 you said God is fair. First correct that openly. God is not fair. He is just. Romans 9 9-18.. correction the person in the video said God is fair. No. God is just. Both the justifier and just. Most misinterpreting scripture.
@@burningheartsministriesmis1488 faith? Whose faith is it? Rightfully dividing the word of truth. Predestination by Election. Romans 8 29-30 Romans 9 9-18. Sanctification Deuteronomy 14, 2 Reconciliation 2 Corinthians 5 19-20 Regeneration Titus 3,5 John 3, 3 Justification Romans 4 1-6 Glorification Acts 1, 9 1 Corinthians 15 52-53. Justification is by faith OF JESUS CHRIST NOT IN JESUS CHRIST. ALONE. NOT BY WORKS LEST ANY MAN SHOULD BOAST. EPH 2, 8 TITUS 3,5. JAMES 2, 23.
The "wrong choice" is the TERMINAL choice -- not one of some make believe torment that conscious souls endure in a pseudo eternal life that is dystopian and horrific. There is ALWAYS a way out as long as there is any LIFE. You cannot call the "lake of fire" a place of conscious eternal death of some sort -- that is oxymoronic and completely irrational besides being genuinely twisted and blaspheming God, who is Good and Just and whose MERCY ENDURES *FOREVER*.
I do not know if your objection to the concept of hell has its root in what I am about to say below...but many who reject Hell's REALITY hold belief in the argument posed to Dr. Bernard.
I propose that those who hold this view of Hell, do so because they are only able to imagine it from natural (carnal) experience. We are spiritual beings in the robes of flesh......who mistakenly imagine eternal things from the PERSPECTIVE of our earthborn experiences.
In Revelation 10:6, the Word declares that:
5¶The angel whom I saw standing on the sea and on the land raised up his hand to heaven
6And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be TIME NO LONGER:
The unimaginable, incomprehensible thought of ETERNITY, causes some to outright reject the Biblical account of Hell. They fail to associate the transition from flesh + spirit to spirit (alone).
Spiritual Beings have no concept of time......they simply exist.
They don't age....grow old, etc.
It is not like someone in prison on Earth. Individuals will not be marking time on the wall... with a determined day (either through death or completion of sentence) set for release. The finite nature of terrene imprisonment, offers a sense of relief....even as one agonizes over the loss of freedom.
TIME serves as a limitational construct, by which fallen man can exercise his free will and CHOOSE to love and obey his creator.
Earth/life is the testing ground where we are proven.
Therefore, a Spiritual being in Hell, is NOT synonymous with the earthly experience......because TIME is a non-factor. TIME is the primary Culprit of suffering in earthly imprisonment, due to bodily expiration. We cannot recapture what has been lost.
Yet this same TIME is the source of relief, because it sets limits on suffering.
The word Eternal only serves as a juxtaposition to time. Those in Hell, will simply be.....as a state of existence.
@@tefferro I know that argument you are proposing but it falls apart under examination. Jesus told us to not fear the one who can onto destroy the body but the one who can destroy body AND SOUL in hell.
The body was made to pass; and for this reason we should not fear the death of the body as it is inevitable. But the SOUL is the very seat of consciousness- if the SOUL is DESTROYED, then so is consciousness.
There is no eternal life outside of the very source of BEING (I AM), and consciousness is utterly destroyed without an intact soul, and Jesus tells us that there is one who can destroy the soul.
No ever burning hell.
Death ---- is sleep.
All I can say is cop out.