The Nylander deal is fine. People think he's overpaid because he makes more than players like Gaudreau and Pastrnak, but the reality is that those players are severely underpaid compared to their market value. The real mistake would have been letting him sit in Sweden for the season on the last year of Matthews and Marner's entry-level deals. If anything is going to hamper the Leafs' cap situation, it's contracts like Zaitsev's and Marleau's (but at least his is moveable).
It inflates marners contract next year. He is getting 7.45 on a deal that gets one Ufa year. If he had arbitration rights he would have got 6.5 like his comparables. They overpaid by a million a year. If you think it's worth it..... fine, but it's too much for a 20 goal scorer with no edge who sucked balls in the playoffs last year.
Not sure where you're getting those numbers but according to Capfriendly Nylander has a cap hit of just under $7 million (starting next season). And I doubt an arbitrator would lower his salary considering what players like Ryan Johansen and Evander Kane have gotten recently with similar production, especially when you consider the rising cap. And I wouldn't put too much stock into a single playoff performance, particularly when Matthews himself only posted two points in their seven game series.
@@jimmyzeke13 agents don't use the cap numbers. They use rate of pay. Nylander has a rate of pay of 7.45 million a year on a 6 year deal. That he technically gets less based on the cap rules and the fact he missed games so far this season doesn't impact his rate of pay which is...... 7.45 million a year on a 6 year deal. I did basic division to come up with these numbers.
Then it should be 7.5 since his total salary is $45 million. Either way, his actual salary is irrelevant when talking about the cap hit, which is what Burke's complaint stems from.
Burkies best points here were: 1) You can't put that much blame on Nylander for last years playoff.. He was 21 years old. He is too young to ridicule him that much 2) Its a good thing I got out when I did. New school hockey people. Data driven, logical not emotional. Speed and skill wins. The Leafs are going to keep Nylander and we are going to have a very talented group grow and mature with each other.
All this hate for Burke bc of his time with the Leafs but he’s absolutely right. You can win games in the regular season with a weakness, but come playoff time it’s different. It’s a 7 game series with the opposing coaching staff strategizing against you. Just like Boston did last year against Toronto.
You must be young .. it's how he would come out into press conferences on trade deadline when he was Toronto's GM and then became his classic stressed out , up all night making deals look.
The 2011 canucks? U kidding me. That team had Alberts, Rome, Bieksa, Torres, Lappierre. Edler is huge & was at this peak as far as playing physical. Kesler/Burr. Higgins could play the physical game and the Twins entire game is played downlow. They outhit Boston in some of those tight home games. They were injured at the end more so than soft. Not a comparable for this leafs group.
dude, we were punching bags for Marchand and Chara, that's the truth. We had a great team, very skilled, solid defense, great goalies, good depth, two hall of famers in their prime BUT we just came up against the biggest and meanest team in the league. It just threw us of our game. If it was any other team except Boston, we would have won that year.
Don't forget Colin Campbell was harassing referees in that series. The emails came out because of the concussions lawsuit. He was emailing officials about calling penalties against his son (Gregory). It's true, it's documented and you can find it if you google it. I recall that series and Boston and Chara seemed to get away with everything. Why? I vividly recall a game in Boston where Chara threw one of the Sedins to the ice and they both got 2 minutes. If you go back and watch that series there is distinct favoritism towards Boston. Don't get me wrong, Tim Thomas was unbelievable but if you stop calling penalties that gave the Bruins an advantage. Also Burke is past his best before date, he's a lost dinosaur. And debating on his comments is like pissing in the wind (should be avoided by intelligent people).
So many people are calling him "angry, bitter, mad, etc." and I don't see it. When was he bitter? People literally got pissed at him for having a different opinion...
These butt hurt maple laugh fanboys in the comment section is what's really embarrassing lol. You people throw bigger temper tantrums than 3-year-olds when you hear factual opinions that you disagree with. Must be that toronto media bubble insulating you from the obvious flaws the maple laugh roster has.
Note: does everyone remember for about 2 years, every interview burke would claim he could trade schenn for tavares at any time? well we have jay tee now and no burke, what's that tellz ya.
Good to see Burke still banging out the old truculence and défense wins championships standbys. Note to Burke: the penguins won a Stanley cup with a second tier défense corps and a little more truculence than you might find at a hot yoga class. And I watched every VGK playoff game and I’m still not sure who tf is in their défense corps. Burke is going to eat his tie when the leafs hoist the cup and we’re all going to tweet him about it.
As much as i would like a Battle of Québec feud between Québec City and Montréal Canadiens, i like that Seattle is getting a team, make it even in both conferences and can give Bettman the legitimate argument of being competitive with the NFL in terms of the number of teams
Love the tie: Innovative-Fresh style I'm going to use/steal it. Nyl is Selfish-overpd. Leafs do need to cut down D errors.. Maybe short on fwd grit too..
Pittsburgh was amazing because of their relentless forecheck. Vegas was amazing because of their unreal puck retrieval (and fleury). However I do agree with Burke, playoff hockey is different - still a bit old school. The whistle goes away. We’ll see if they can overcome that. The Leafs remind me a bit of Chicago minus obviously the defence the Hawks had. Question is can they pour on the pressure relentlessly the way past winners of the Stanley Cup have. Just look at all the cup winners since the last lockout - just non-stop overwhelming pressure. That’s what wins I feel.
Burke didn't draft them, the scouting team did. The only first rounder Burke was responsible for was Tyler Biggs, a brawny American who couldn't play. You could write a book on this guy on how to mismanage a sports franchise.
the obvious answer is that Nylander now becomes a trade chip. There might be some limits on when he can trade him, but it's important to keep the asset and keep him playing. If Nylander is the real deal this season, a team with a major D to trade might still accept Nylander's overpay. It's more important to get the players you need than nickel and dime every deal out of principle.
I agree on the need for both a solid and mobile #3 Dman, as well as a grinding power forward on the 3rd and/or 4th lines. Toronto is a mix of players who generally play a skilled/soft game. Whos the meanest guy on the team in terms of play style? Kadri? Thats a problem. Playoff hockey is dirty hockey, rarely a penalty awarded.
Dubas never said he'd never trade him. He wouldn't be stupid enough to. He said he wasn't just signing him to trade him. Nylander taking this out of context and telling it to reporters really is a headache for Dubas, I'd imagine.
Plenty of people don't take well to Brian's professional persona. Fine. I get it. He's highly opinionated, cantankerous at times. When our kids played soccer together when they were little ones, he learned that my son lived and died with the Canucks. He also learned that as a single dad I could only afford to take him to a handful of games per year. Out of the blue one day there was an envelope in the mail, containing a pair of red-section tickets to six Canuck home games. I have a hard time criticizing Brian.
Leafs fans hate Sportsnet dragging him out to troll Leafs fans. He was the worst GM here since I've been alive. Now he comes on air with a big smile and says the Leafs aren't this and that. He destroyed the franchise, turned it into a laughing stock. Leafs fans are so glad his era is over and we wish he'd just go away.
Ok that’s just weird to me if they do blue and green. Do you really want to be the same colors as a team in your division and who isn’t that far away from Seattle distance wise.
He's right about the defense and the need to be tougher all round. When they don't have open ice, say goodbye to explosive offense. Anderson has kept them in too many games for their defense to be called adequate for a playoff run.
Yeah the Leafs D may not be great at the moment, but look at who we have in the pipeline. Dermott is progressing well, he could become a decent 2nd pairing guy, Liljegren is a great prospect that could also turn into a top 4 D with potential at top 2, and Sandin is a little too early to judge but Toronto's treating him like he could become a top 4 D too. So why overpay on a top 4 D right now when we're not going to need one in a couple of years? I'd rather have Nylander since you know trading him for a top 4 D would be useless in a couple of years. And who needs big physical players on your team when the opposing team can't even hit you since you're too fast. Someone track how many hits Kapanen takes in a season and compare it to someone like Crosby or Kucherov.
Pretty sure the Leafs are something like 3rd in the NHL in goals against. So I don't really understand how defense is their weakness this season. I'm not even saying they're a contender but their defense has been just fine this season thus far. How are we gonna beat Washington? Pretty sure they gave The Capitals a run for their money a couple years ago when they faced in the playoffs and 5 out of 6 games went to overtime. Most of the Leafs core were rookies at that point and they've added Tavares now. I'm not afraid of meeting washington in the playoffs at all. Bring it on!
Ah, i don't know if I agree with him. TO is a damn good team, and at least should have a good run in the playoffs. But I do agree having depth on D is important in the playoffs. D-men seem to start dropping like flies the deeper you get into the playoffs. Not always, but Trading Nylander in the off season for at least a good 2-3 defensively minded D-man could be just what TO needs. Guess you see how they do this year, and then reevaluate.
Burke should go tell Jim Rutherford how important defense is to winning cups. Plus, if he'd bother to look at a stat sheet he'd see that T.O is top-6 in GA at the moment, I guess that's not good enough? Also, the Leafs really aren't that small, not sure what he's going on about there. Pittsburgh was probably smaller when they won back to back cups, Chicago wasn't exactly huge.. Sure, LA, Washington and Boston were big teams, but 6 cups to 4 in the past decade says there's more than one way to win a cup. The only thing I agree with him on is that Toronto might not be the top contender, but to say they flat-out aren't a contender is just Burke showing his bitterness. If it wasn't for Nashville and Tampa being totally stacked, Toronto would easily be the favorite in just about any objective viewer's book. I guess he just can't wrap his head around another GMs vision of a good team. This is why Toronto fired him, and eventually hired a young guy to build a real contender. - A habs fan (It's not just Leafs fans, Burke's an old, dumb, dinosaur by most people's standards).
Seattle Seamen would be the best name. There's a lot of fishing in the region and it would compliment the Mariners which is are already a team in the city.
With the cap going up over the term, Nylander's deal looks decent. When two parties take negotiations to the deadline, you end up with fair market value-- and that is not a tautological argument, even if it looks like it on the surface. Deadline bargaining is the best way to determine value. Sorry if some don't have the stomach for it. Now, it is contingent on Nylander becoming the player he projects to be. It's possible he could turn out to be a Phanuef. *cough*.
Dubas just took over the team in about 6 months now and so far he did fantastic job. Toronto media is a whole bunch of idiots. Just leave the Leafs alone. Dubas got the Marlies to win the Calder cup no one had ever done that before. This guy is a winner. Period!
I’m a pens fan and we won a damn cup without Letang and were carried by Murray and Flower.... Ya Toronto’s defense is pretty awful but they are contenders no doubt.
@@anonymousanonymous4238 Oh I know, he's a great player. I was pointing out that the Rask/Raycroft deal was terrible. Kessel was traded for 2- 1st round and a 2nd round picks. (Seguin, Hamilton, and Knight) Burkie over paid for Kessel in my opinion.
How good was Pittsburgh's D when they won? How good were the Caps D when they won? Physical hockey doesn't matter as much anymore. It's a league of skill and speed now.
Leaf fans love to hate on burke (and I'm one of them lol) because of all the players and picks he cost us; Seguin, Hamilton, Gibson rakell on and on. But getting jvr for luke schenn, and Gardiner and lupul for Francois beauchemin were 2 of the greatest leafs trades this decade
You have to remember that the Leafs were Burke's toy. It was deal after deal after deal. The Leafs were gutted after the salary cap and JFJ. Youy had to draft and develop. He has no patience. If you make 20 deals in 5 years some of them are good. But wheeling and dealing was not what we needed.
didn't Burke sign Komisarek to $5+ mil a year and also give Phaneuf that massive OVERPAID contract? yeah.. his opinion matters so much to the successful organization the Leafs are now.
Dubas can get out of 'not trading' him by simply exposing him to Seattle in the expansion draft, although that will be too late for their main 'cap crunch' period...
At 9:45 Willy got one goal in 7 games in the Boston series...... Well Jake G. Gave Boston what 5 ...... And Mr.B love Jake!! If Toronto plays Boston in the playoffs ..... Give Jake 3 extra large and let him eat them in the press box...... But don't worry Jake Boston won't make the playoffs.....
At least Brian is honest about how our so called "National" sports media is 100% Toronto and to hell with the other 6 national teams. Some of these eastern guys clearly don't even watch anyone else but the Laffs.
I agree with you Vonn! Sure they are at the top of the standings now and I dont care I'd they beat them in the regular season but Winnipeg torched the leafs if they meet in the playoffs. Calgary too
I can understand why people get tired of coverage of my team. I grew up a leafs fan in the 1990s before center ice and streaming. With today's tech instead of just complaining you have to vote with your feet. I now live in philly and have since 2003. I barely hear a word on the flyers in my house. I watch my stream and catch my hockey news on the Canadian sites and TH-cam channels.
What I mean with my 1990s comment was I got left with the blues, stars, wings, and avalanche games and never got to watch many leaf games. My dad and I got pissed off and it got old. At least it was hockey though and back then, Tulsa Oklahoma actually had a decent number of hockey fans.
These comment sections are going to be one hell of a sight when they lose second round and realize he is right. Yes we are the minority but the majority is very short sighted.
Yeah that swiss cheese leafs D, they have a Norris candidate in Reilly who's statistically shoulder to shoulder with the best guys in the league, and they are 4th best in goals against.
Can you imagine how fast this imbecile would destroy our team if he were in charge today. Marner and a first rounder to Edmonton for Lucic and Talbot. Truculent my ass.
What does Burkie know about Nylander he was working out west in Calgary. Nylander and Matthews have unbelievable chemistry. Nylander 2 goals tomorrow. Standing ovation. And a Leafs win. Nylander will get a power play goal. As Burkie says Toronto needs to start measuring the curbs in Toronto for the Stanley Cup parade. Tell Habs fans this time it will be in colour. Burkie just a miserable old fart......still bitter Leafs fired him. Burkie bitter his picks were not better than Dubas picks.
Burkie thinks Nylanders deal is bad. Nylander was signed to a 6.9 M dollar deal, and next year the cap is gonna be ~83M. Which means Dubas spent about 8.3% of the cap on Nylander. Let's rewind. It's 2012 and the Leafs are terrible. If you don't remember (and I don't blame you Leafs fans) this was the "18-wheeler off a cliff" season. Mikhail Grabvoski, he of the ferocious BITE, has put up back to back 20G/50P seasons (heights he would never reach again.) So mastermind GM Brian Burke decides to sign him to a 5 year 27.5 M dollar extension. That's a 5.5 M dollar AAV in 2012, when the cap was 64.3 M dollars. So that's 8.5% of the cap. 8.5% of the cap ON MIKHAIL GRABOVSKI. So yeah Burkie tell me again about how you can't spend that kind of money on Nylander.
He'll get a response. Leafs fans hate his guts. But for the media the worst thing is no one watching, no one listening. Trust me Leafs fans will watch this just to tear him to shreds.
Brian Burke is right. I don't think a true leaf fan thinks they will win the cup in 2018/2019. It is fun to watch them play again and it looks promising for the future. Maybe in 3yrs. It's very hard to win the Stanley Cup.
Sportsnet TH-cam comments is the home of a group worse than the beliebers and that the beleafers - the amount of angry leaf fan boys leaving comments is funny, Burke makes logical points and y'all just can't handle the obvious truth lol
I completely agree. He is not saying the Leafs suck or they are totally screwed. He make a comment about how "HE" doesn't think the Leafs are a Stanley Cup contender yet. And all these Leaf fans come out guns ablazin with hate. Settler down there hero's. I am surprised they aren't calling him Racist or something.
TheRefep But this is their point, Burke never said they are "bad." Being a bad team and not being a contender are two different things. Just listen to what he says, it's an opinion.
Wintrz - Most fans don’t hate him except for his drafting, which was awful for the most part. Rielly and Kadri were exceptions. He made some good trades to try and make the team better. Schenn for JVR was awesome. The trade for Phaneuf was amazing at the time and got us a Captain. The Kessel trade kind of worked in our favour with him being one of the all-time Leaf scorers. With that however, Burke overestimated how good our team was and as a result, we lost out on Seguin and Hamilton. So it was a good trade at the time, and a terrible one in the long run. Leafs are so good now that he’s really irrelevant.
Burke doesn’t get it 😂😂, we are a team with a pretty low goals against team right now. Our defense is definitely the most underrated defense in the league.
Whatever Burke did in the past doesn't make him wrong on this. Nylander held out and got overpaid by a million a year. 7.45 on a deal that gets one ufa year. Overpaying with marners contract coming up next year is risky. Don't lie to yourselves. If Nylander had arbitration rights he would have got 6.5 max.
The cap hit is 6.9... for a 60 point winger that is what you pay. If he improves at all (which he projects to because he is not in his prime yet) that deal is a steal in a couple years.
How have they played 7 games. They played 6 at washington 2 years ago. Oh and the Washington that will give them so much trouble....ya they almost beat them too
NO MORE TEAMS!!! 32 is too many. The draft is watered down, the teams get watered down and only 1 of 32 gets a cup each year. A 20-24 team league is more than enough.
Leafs fans still salty about Burkies time with them. Yes the leafs are winning games with their style and roster now, but the playoffs are a totally different season. A 7 game series where the opposing team has time to pinpoint and exploit your weaknesses. The fast and flashy style only got as far as 7 games against the team, who lost to the team, who lost to the team that won the cup...
He might of been terrible during his tenure but he does have a point anybody that thinks the leafs d is solid are eating too many mushrooms before the games
That Nylander contract looks better and better every year.
The Nylander deal is fine. People think he's overpaid because he makes more than players like Gaudreau and Pastrnak, but the reality is that those players are severely underpaid compared to their market value. The real mistake would have been letting him sit in Sweden for the season on the last year of Matthews and Marner's entry-level deals. If anything is going to hamper the Leafs' cap situation, it's contracts like Zaitsev's and Marleau's (but at least his is moveable).
Completely agreed but Zaitsev’s contract isnt that bad. Hes being turned into a reliable stay at home defensemen.
It inflates marners contract next year. He is getting 7.45 on a deal that gets one Ufa year. If he had arbitration rights he would have got 6.5 like his comparables. They overpaid by a million a year. If you think it's worth it..... fine, but it's too much for a 20 goal scorer with no edge who sucked balls in the playoffs last year.
Not sure where you're getting those numbers but according to Capfriendly Nylander has a cap hit of just under $7 million (starting next season). And I doubt an arbitrator would lower his salary considering what players like Ryan Johansen and Evander Kane have gotten recently with similar production, especially when you consider the rising cap. And I wouldn't put too much stock into a single playoff performance, particularly when Matthews himself only posted two points in their seven game series.
@@jimmyzeke13 agents don't use the cap numbers. They use rate of pay. Nylander has a rate of pay of 7.45 million a year on a 6 year deal. That he technically gets less based on the cap rules and the fact he missed games so far this season doesn't impact his rate of pay which is...... 7.45 million a year on a 6 year deal.
I did basic division to come up with these numbers.
Then it should be 7.5 since his total salary is $45 million. Either way, his actual salary is irrelevant when talking about the cap hit, which is what Burke's complaint stems from.
Hey Burke Theres a Reason your not the GM anymore How many times did the leafs make thevplayoffs when you where GM?
Useless old fart, who dumped the team to the bottom when he was GM talking non-sense... Burke, you are joke.. Totally agree with you, Infernodo..
Not gonna lie it wasnt just Burkes fault, the leafs are a joke especially back then.
Infernodo , you say that to Don Cherry also? It's only Leafs fans that have a problem with his opinion.
Infernodo it might help if he could wear his damn tie properly. Maybe people might actually take him seriously then. Or not
Infernodo , and Burke inherited a Leafs with years of crap and ownership running the show.
Burkies best points here were:
1) You can't put that much blame on Nylander for last years playoff.. He was 21 years old. He is too young to ridicule him that much
2) Its a good thing I got out when I did.
New school hockey people. Data driven, logical not emotional. Speed and skill wins. The Leafs are going to keep Nylander and we are going to have a very talented group grow and mature with each other.
All this hate for Burke bc of his time with the Leafs but he’s absolutely right. You can win games in the regular season with a weakness, but come playoff time it’s different. It’s a 7 game series with the opposing coaching staff strategizing against you. Just like Boston did last year against Toronto.
Seattle Cougars Mascot can be a middle aged woman that picks up all the guys around the rink.
in a limo with a satellite dish sized martini glass
Why is his tie like that lol
You must be young .. it's how he would come out into press conferences on trade deadline when he was Toronto's GM and then became his classic stressed out , up all night making deals look.
It's his brand.
His T.M.
He got wasted last night and had to rush into the show lol
@@robnicholson3861 hahhahahaa
22 months later - Brian Burke is still right.
The 2011 canucks? U kidding me. That team had Alberts, Rome, Bieksa, Torres, Lappierre. Edler is huge & was at this peak as far as playing physical. Kesler/Burr. Higgins could play the physical game and the Twins entire game is played downlow. They outhit Boston in some of those tight home games. They were injured at the end more so than soft. Not a comparable for this leafs group.
dude, we were punching bags for Marchand and Chara, that's the truth. We had a great team, very skilled, solid defense, great goalies, good depth, two hall of famers in their prime BUT we just came up against the biggest and meanest team in the league. It just threw us of our game. If it was any other team except Boston, we would have won that year.
To be fair, Alberts and Rome only played in the playoffs due to injuries and Ballard forgetting how to play hockey,
The 2011 Canucks would sweep the 2018 Leafs.
Don't forget Colin Campbell was harassing referees in that series. The emails came out because of the concussions lawsuit. He was emailing officials about calling penalties against his son (Gregory). It's true, it's documented and you can find it if you google it. I recall that series and Boston and Chara seemed to get away with everything. Why? I vividly recall a game in Boston where Chara threw one of the Sedins to the ice and they both got 2 minutes. If you go back and watch that series there is distinct favoritism towards Boston. Don't get me wrong, Tim Thomas was unbelievable but if you stop calling penalties that gave the Bruins an advantage. Also Burke is past his best before date, he's a lost dinosaur. And debating on his comments is like pissing in the wind (should be avoided by intelligent people).
Rome hit changed everything
Bitter Burke, kinda embarrassing to watch.
So many people are calling him "angry, bitter, mad, etc." and I don't see it. When was he bitter? People literally got pissed at him for having a different opinion...
These butt hurt maple laugh fanboys in the comment section is what's really embarrassing lol. You people throw bigger temper tantrums than 3-year-olds when you hear factual opinions that you disagree with. Must be that toronto media bubble insulating you from the obvious flaws the maple laugh roster has.
Note: does everyone remember for about 2 years, every interview burke would claim he could trade schenn for tavares at any time? well we have jay tee now and no burke, what's that tellz ya.
Brian Burke is awesome.
Say what you will about Burkie but I respect this man. He has convictions in his beliefs and is raw and honest.
Right, we should make Burke the Leafs GM. Oh wait, we already did that..... and what happened?
I wonder if Burke feels by lander is a over payment today after a point per game season lol
Brian Burke hits the nail right on the head and Toronto fans go nuts lol
I'm a 52 year old life time lead fan and I agree with Brian Burke
Good to see Burke still banging out the old truculence and défense wins championships standbys. Note to Burke: the penguins won a Stanley cup with a second tier défense corps and a little more truculence than you might find at a hot yoga class. And I watched every VGK playoff game and I’m still not sure who tf is in their défense corps.
Burke is going to eat his tie when the leafs hoist the cup and we’re all going to tweet him about it.
^This
lol
Who cares what Burke has to say? And who in the hell would want to pay this guy to hear what he has to say
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Do the opposite of what Burke thinks 😂🤣
As much as i would like a Battle of Québec feud between Québec City and Montréal Canadiens, i like that Seattle is getting a team, make it even in both conferences and can give Bettman the legitimate argument of being competitive with the NFL in terms of the number of teams
Just call us the Metropolitans!!!
Love the tie: Innovative-Fresh style I'm going to use/steal it. Nyl is Selfish-overpd. Leafs do need to cut down D errors.. Maybe short on fwd grit too..
" I DON`T CARE WHAT YOU TINK,IT IS WHAT I THINK" ! Got to love that ,you tell em Burkie!
Pittsburgh was amazing because of their relentless forecheck.
Vegas was amazing because of their unreal puck retrieval (and fleury).
However I do agree with Burke, playoff hockey is different - still a bit old school. The whistle goes away. We’ll see if they can overcome that. The Leafs remind me a bit of Chicago minus obviously the defence the Hawks had.
Question is can they pour on the pressure relentlessly the way past winners of the Stanley Cup have. Just look at all the cup winners since the last lockout - just non-stop overwhelming pressure. That’s what wins I feel.
YOu know which team has the least amount of powerplays in the NHL this year. The Leafs.
It's great news for Canucks fans. Seattle's team that is.
ITT: A lot of people that don't understand the fact that THEY ASKED for Burke's opinion!
Couldn't do anything for the Leafs when you were here, so I don't care what you think.
He drafted their best D man .
Jordan Bolduc He’s not the one who traded Kessel lol. His only good moves were drafting Kadri & Reilly. And getting Kessel I guess u can say that one
Burke didn't draft them, the scouting team did. The only first rounder Burke was responsible for was Tyler Biggs, a brawny American who couldn't play. You could write a book on this guy on how to mismanage a sports franchise.
No kiddin
Why are people getting hostile towards his "opinion"?? We need to wake up and stop getting offended when people have different opinions
the obvious answer is that Nylander now becomes a trade chip. There might be some limits on when he can trade him, but it's important to keep the asset and keep him playing. If Nylander is the real deal this season, a team with a major D to trade might still accept Nylander's overpay. It's more important to get the players you need than nickel and dime every deal out of principle.
I agree on the need for both a solid and mobile #3 Dman, as well as a grinding power forward on the 3rd and/or 4th lines. Toronto is a mix of players who generally play a skilled/soft game. Whos the meanest guy on the team in terms of play style? Kadri? Thats a problem. Playoff hockey is dirty hockey, rarely a penalty awarded.
Dubas never said he'd never trade him. He wouldn't be stupid enough to. He said he wasn't just signing him to trade him. Nylander taking this out of context and telling it to reporters really is a headache for Dubas, I'd imagine.
Plenty of people don't take well to Brian's professional persona. Fine. I get it. He's highly opinionated, cantankerous at times. When our kids played soccer together when they were little ones, he learned that my son lived and died with the Canucks. He also learned that as a single dad I could only afford to take him to a handful of games per year. Out of the blue one day there was an envelope in the mail, containing a pair of red-section tickets to six Canuck home games. I have a hard time criticizing Brian.
Leafs fans hate Sportsnet dragging him out to troll Leafs fans. He was the worst GM here since I've been alive. Now he comes on air with a big smile and says the Leafs aren't this and that. He destroyed the franchise, turned it into a laughing stock. Leafs fans are so glad his era is over and we wish he'd just go away.
Ok that’s just weird to me if they do blue and green. Do you really want to be the same colors as a team in your division and who isn’t that far away from Seattle distance wise.
He's right about the defense and the need to be tougher all round. When they don't have open ice, say goodbye to explosive offense. Anderson has kept them in too many games for their defense to be called adequate for a playoff run.
Yeah the Leafs D may not be great at the moment, but look at who we have in the pipeline. Dermott is progressing well, he could become a decent 2nd pairing guy, Liljegren is a great prospect that could also turn into a top 4 D with potential at top 2, and Sandin is a little too early to judge but Toronto's treating him like he could become a top 4 D too. So why overpay on a top 4 D right now when we're not going to need one in a couple of years? I'd rather have Nylander since you know trading him for a top 4 D would be useless in a couple of years.
And who needs big physical players on your team when the opposing team can't even hit you since you're too fast. Someone track how many hits Kapanen takes in a season and compare it to someone like Crosby or Kucherov.
Pretty sure the Leafs are something like 3rd in the NHL in goals against. So I don't really understand how defense is their weakness this season. I'm not even saying they're a contender but their defense has been just fine this season thus far. How are we gonna beat Washington? Pretty sure they gave The Capitals a run for their money a couple years ago when they faced in the playoffs and 5 out of 6 games went to overtime. Most of the Leafs core were rookies at that point and they've added Tavares now. I'm not afraid of meeting washington in the playoffs at all. Bring it on!
Ah, i don't know if I agree with him. TO is a damn good team, and at least should have a good run in the playoffs. But I do agree having depth on D is important in the playoffs. D-men seem to start dropping like flies the deeper you get into the playoffs. Not always, but Trading Nylander in the off season for at least a good 2-3 defensively minded D-man could be just what TO needs. Guess you see how they do this year, and then reevaluate.
This guy should get his own show. Not scared to say anything lmao😂
Imagine hockey without Brian Burke😭
I never knew much about Burke growing up but I like him more and more everyday. He'll never see this lol
Burke should go tell Jim Rutherford how important defense is to winning cups. Plus, if he'd bother to look at a stat sheet he'd see that T.O is top-6 in GA at the moment, I guess that's not good enough? Also, the Leafs really aren't that small, not sure what he's going on about there. Pittsburgh was probably smaller when they won back to back cups, Chicago wasn't exactly huge.. Sure, LA, Washington and Boston were big teams, but 6 cups to 4 in the past decade says there's more than one way to win a cup.
The only thing I agree with him on is that Toronto might not be the top contender, but to say they flat-out aren't a contender is just Burke showing his bitterness. If it wasn't for Nashville and Tampa being totally stacked, Toronto would easily be the favorite in just about any objective viewer's book. I guess he just can't wrap his head around another GMs vision of a good team. This is why Toronto fired him, and eventually hired a young guy to build a real contender.
- A habs fan (It's not just Leafs fans, Burke's an old, dumb, dinosaur by most people's standards).
He’s right about their lack of physical aggression. We need some tough defence men.
Seattle Seamen would be the best name. There's a lot of fishing in the region and it would compliment the Mariners which is are already a team in the city.
I think Semen could end up being the butt of a lot of jokes, dont you think?
With the cap going up over the term, Nylander's deal looks decent. When two parties take negotiations to the deadline, you end up with fair market value-- and that is not a tautological argument, even if it looks like it on the surface. Deadline bargaining is the best way to determine value. Sorry if some don't have the stomach for it. Now, it is contingent on Nylander becoming the player he projects to be. It's possible he could turn out to be a Phanuef. *cough*.
No better way to convey you don't care what people think than to yell it into a camera while defending yourself from their criticism.
Dubas just took over the team in about 6 months now and so far he did fantastic job. Toronto media is a whole bunch of idiots. Just leave the Leafs alone. Dubas got the Marlies to win the Calder cup no one had ever done that before. This guy is a winner. Period!
When's Salt Lake City, UT going to get a team?
I’m a pens fan and we won a damn cup without Letang and were carried by Murray and Flower.... Ya Toronto’s defense is pretty awful but they are contenders no doubt.
Leafs fans do not want to hear about the physicality problem.
Im a big fan myself, but others do not like that question.
Kessel worked out Well, dion was good too.....hmmmmm
Kassel was good, the team around him wasn't. 30 goal scorer wasted on teams that weren't so talented, no D, and no goaltending.
Haha same with that amazing Tukka Rask for Andrew Raycroft...Totally worth it.
@@LNMarls Kessel was a 30 goal scorer. Team around him stunk. Raycroft on the other hand...
@@anonymousanonymous4238 Oh I know, he's a great player. I was pointing out that the Rask/Raycroft deal was terrible. Kessel was traded for 2- 1st round and a 2nd round picks. (Seguin, Hamilton, and Knight)
Burkie over paid for Kessel in my opinion.
@@LNMarls I thought so at the time but those guys didn't work out in Boston in the long run.
What again has Brian Burke ever won?
A Stanley Cup??
How good was Pittsburgh's D when they won? How good were the Caps D when they won? Physical hockey doesn't matter as much anymore. It's a league of skill and speed now.
Leaf fans love to hate on burke (and I'm one of them lol) because of all the players and picks he cost us; Seguin, Hamilton, Gibson rakell on and on. But getting jvr for luke schenn, and Gardiner and lupul for Francois beauchemin were 2 of the greatest leafs trades this decade
You have to remember that the Leafs were Burke's toy. It was deal after deal after deal. The Leafs were gutted after the salary cap and JFJ. Youy had to draft and develop. He has no patience. If you make 20 deals in 5 years some of them are good. But wheeling and dealing was not what we needed.
Man who drafted Tyler Biggs rather than Brandon Saad, John Gibson and Nikita Kucherov is smart hockey man. Duly noted.
Mr.B got all 👗 up!!! Score 10 goals give up 8...... Who wins....... In the end!!!
didn't Burke sign Komisarek to $5+ mil a year and also give Phaneuf that massive OVERPAID contract? yeah.. his opinion matters so much to the successful organization the Leafs are now.
He just hates nylander not getting traded
Auston Matthews radko gudas, he isn't tough enough. Would be Milan lucic for nylander 1 for 1
Dubas can get out of 'not trading' him by simply exposing him to Seattle in the expansion draft, although that will be too late for their main 'cap crunch' period...
VANCOUVER HAD "SANDPAPER" = Raffi Torres, Burrows, Bieksa, Tanner Glass, Kessler, Malhotra, Even Kieth Ballard....
I believe you are absolutely right, Burkie. But you have to get rid of the tie. You’re not a tie rack😉.
At 9:45 Willy got one goal in 7 games in the Boston series...... Well Jake G. Gave Boston what 5 ...... And Mr.B love Jake!! If Toronto plays Boston in the playoffs ..... Give Jake 3 extra large and let him eat them in the press box...... But don't worry Jake Boston won't make the playoffs.....
Guy said Nashville has a forward core as deep as the Leafs... 🤔
lol
At least Brian is honest about how our so called "National" sports media is 100% Toronto and to hell with the other 6 national teams. Some of these eastern guys clearly don't even watch anyone else but the Laffs.
Burke's a joke. A bum. Set the Leafs back 5 years. Why do you whiners cry about the national Broadcast. Go watch your local broadcast.
I agree with you Vonn! Sure they are at the top of the standings now and I dont care I'd they beat them in the regular season but Winnipeg torched the leafs if they meet in the playoffs. Calgary too
@@kevingodin5802 So you're saying we make the Finals?! Sick! Sold!
I can understand why people get tired of coverage of my team. I grew up a leafs fan in the 1990s before center ice and streaming. With today's tech instead of just complaining you have to vote with your feet. I now live in philly and have since 2003. I barely hear a word on the flyers in my house. I watch my stream and catch my hockey news on the Canadian sites and TH-cam channels.
What I mean with my 1990s comment was I got left with the blues, stars, wings, and avalanche games and never got to watch many leaf games. My dad and I got pissed off and it got old. At least it was hockey though and back then, Tulsa Oklahoma actually had a decent number of hockey fans.
William Nylander probably the best thing to ever come into hockey. Greatest player just wait. You pay. They show off biggg
The way Burke is talking you would almost think that the leafs gave up Seguin, Hamelton and a 2nd to sign Nylander.
These comment sections are going to be one hell of a sight when they lose second round and realize he is right. Yes we are the minority but the majority is very short sighted.
Yeah that swiss cheese leafs D, they have a Norris candidate in Reilly who's statistically shoulder to shoulder with the best guys in the league, and they are 4th best in goals against.
Can you imagine how fast this imbecile would destroy our team if he were in charge today. Marner and a first rounder to Edmonton for Lucic and Talbot. Truculent my ass.
Brian Burke for PM! :P
A lot of these comments have not aged well
Hope Quebec gets a team either by relocation or expansion so we can have the battle of Quebec again
I love all these Burke haters who come in and trash him even though he is right and they are too dumb to understand it
I hope Seattle called themselve SuperSonic. That would be awesome.
The only team to beat is Tampa and maybe Boston every other team they can play them well Washington will be tough but doable.
lmao what's up with the tie?
What does Burkie know about Nylander he was working out west in Calgary.
Nylander and Matthews have unbelievable chemistry.
Nylander 2 goals tomorrow.
Standing ovation.
And a Leafs win.
Nylander will get a power play goal.
As Burkie says Toronto needs to start measuring the curbs in Toronto for the Stanley Cup parade.
Tell Habs fans this time it will be in colour.
Burkie just a miserable old fart......still bitter Leafs fired him.
Burkie bitter his picks were not better than Dubas picks.
Rainers is best, but I'm good with Sockeyes or Firebirds
Burkie thinks Nylanders deal is bad.
Nylander was signed to a 6.9 M dollar deal, and next year the cap is gonna be ~83M. Which means Dubas spent about 8.3% of the cap on Nylander.
Let's rewind. It's 2012 and the Leafs are terrible. If you don't remember (and I don't blame you Leafs fans) this was the "18-wheeler off a cliff" season. Mikhail Grabvoski, he of the ferocious BITE, has put up back to back 20G/50P seasons (heights he would never reach again.) So mastermind GM Brian Burke decides to sign him to a 5 year 27.5 M dollar extension. That's a 5.5 M dollar AAV in 2012, when the cap was 64.3 M dollars. So that's 8.5% of the cap. 8.5% of the cap ON MIKHAIL GRABOVSKI.
So yeah Burkie tell me again about how you can't spend that kind of money on Nylander.
Have they decided on names yet? I like the Seattle Slickers or Seattle Rainiers, or Seattle Ice!
How about Seattle Chaz just to appease the rioters? You're good at that.
Why do networks try and bring on the worst GMs in the leagues history as pundits?
He'll get a response. Leafs fans hate his guts. But for the media the worst thing is no one watching, no one listening. Trust me Leafs fans will watch this just to tear him to shreds.
cause the best ones still have jobs
how are they not considering seattle breakers for the name?! best name for them!
Burke is just salty cause leafs are doing well 😂😂😂😂
Brian Burke is right. I don't think a true leaf fan thinks they will win the cup in 2018/2019. It is fun to watch them play again and it looks promising for the future. Maybe in 3yrs. It's very hard to win the Stanley Cup.
Scottie; I am a die hard and I am telling you this could be the year. We are top 3 with Nashville and Tampa and our goalie is playing out of his head.
Burkies fashion ideas, latest being this un tied tie look. Or skinny scarf??
Hahaha
Its gotta be the Totems! Emeralds works too.
Burke nails it, TML will fail. One round and out.
Tim lookin fly in that suit.
Sportsnet TH-cam comments is the home of a group worse than the beliebers and that the beleafers - the amount of angry leaf fan boys leaving comments is funny, Burke makes logical points and y'all just can't handle the obvious truth lol
I completely agree. He is not saying the Leafs suck or they are totally screwed. He make a comment about how "HE" doesn't think the Leafs are a Stanley Cup contender yet. And all these Leaf fans come out guns ablazin with hate. Settler down there hero's. I am surprised they aren't calling him Racist or something.
20-8-0
20-8-0 means nothing. They’ll choke in the first round.
TheRefep But this is their point, Burke never said they are "bad." Being a bad team and not being a contender are two different things. Just listen to what he says, it's an opinion.
You know Burke is a disgrace when the Leaf haters love the job he did in Toronna.
Its only salty leaf fans that hate Burkie, weather you like him or not he knows what hes talking about & he has personality.
He doesnt though and he proved that over and over again lol
Wintrz - Most fans don’t hate him except for his drafting, which was awful for the most part. Rielly and Kadri were exceptions. He made some good trades to try and make the team better. Schenn for JVR was awesome. The trade for Phaneuf was amazing at the time and got us a Captain. The Kessel trade kind of worked in our favour with him being one of the all-time Leaf scorers. With that however, Burke overestimated how good our team was and as a result, we lost out on Seguin and Hamilton. So it was a good trade at the time, and a terrible one in the long run. Leafs are so good now that he’s really irrelevant.
This is great. 3 beauties
Burke doesn’t get it 😂😂, we are a team with a pretty low goals against team right now. Our defense is definitely the most underrated defense in the league.
Whatever Burke did in the past doesn't make him wrong on this. Nylander held out and got overpaid by a million a year. 7.45 on a deal that gets one ufa year. Overpaying with marners contract coming up next year is risky. Don't lie to yourselves. If Nylander had arbitration rights he would have got 6.5 max.
The cap hit is 6.9... for a 60 point winger that is what you pay. If he improves at all (which he projects to because he is not in his prime yet) that deal is a steal in a couple years.
Im not sure why hes talking about all these teams when they're more than likely gonna play buffao first round. Then tampa bay second round.
Is wearing a tie around your neck like that supposed to look better than no tie at all?
How have they played 7 games. They played 6 at washington 2 years ago. Oh and the Washington that will give them so much trouble....ya they almost beat them too
Burke's BP is 10,000/9800
NO MORE TEAMS!!! 32 is too many. The draft is watered down, the teams get watered down and only 1 of 32 gets a cup each year. A 20-24 team league is more than enough.
They should have Burke and Bill Watters talk Leafs. Hehe
Leafs fans still salty about Burkies time with them. Yes the leafs are winning games with their style and roster now, but the playoffs are a totally different season. A 7 game series where the opposing team has time to pinpoint and exploit your weaknesses. The fast and flashy style only got as far as 7 games against the team, who lost to the team, who lost to the team that won the cup...
He might of been terrible during his tenure but he does have a point anybody that thinks the leafs d is solid are eating too many mushrooms before the games
Does the team have a name? How about the Seattle Rain?
But how happy is he with the Phaneuf deal that he signed him to?