This Part Of The UK Wants To Leave And Join Norway?

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  • @FirstnameLastname-qe3ry
    @FirstnameLastname-qe3ry ปีที่แล้ว +609

    We should give Orkney and Shetland to Serbia, this will benifit absolutely nobody and is a completely absurd idea.

    • @withlessAsbestos
      @withlessAsbestos ปีที่แล้ว +61

      I love it, only if Whales gets Kosovo.

    • @madixjensen7070
      @madixjensen7070 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@withlessAsbestos prefect trade

    • @Barthijzz
      @Barthijzz ปีที่แล้ว +11

      But it is Serbian of course, how wouldn't you know?

    • @hexateron
      @hexateron ปีที่แล้ว +11

      i think we should give kosovo to orkney

    • @Agvazela_Vega
      @Agvazela_Vega ปีที่แล้ว +15

      After a 100% majority vote by the population living there, my bedroom has voted to join Slovenia.

  • @bcunningham3718
    @bcunningham3718 ปีที่แล้ว +592

    Personally I think the the world would be a better place if everywhere was Norway

  • @alexpotts6520
    @alexpotts6520 ปีที่แล้ว +198

    It's weird that Orkney is looking into this but Shetland, which is much further from the British mainland, isn't.

    • @Spacemongerr
      @Spacemongerr ปีที่แล้ว +60

      They have also passed a resolution to look into becoming an autonomous region within UK (like Faeroes in DK). Which is what Orkney is also really exploring, Orkney is not really serious about joining Norway.

    • @jeschinstad
      @jeschinstad ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Shetland has wanted this for years. Discussions began back in 2010 or something. If anything, it's more weird that Orkey Islands didn't join them then. But it's unrealistic. It's not like the British would let them go.

    • @hexateron
      @hexateron ปีที่แล้ว

      border gore🤢

    • @bazmc1153
      @bazmc1153 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Argentina will be watching this like wtf 😂

    • @debbiegilmour6171
      @debbiegilmour6171 ปีที่แล้ว

      It literally isn't though.
      Anyone who knows anything about Orkney knows that it's one lib dem councillor who keeps going on about it. The fact he keeps getting reëlected every time is nothing to do with Orcadians wanting some kind of independence and more to do with Orcadians being stuck in their ways and always viting liberal.

  • @ricequin
    @ricequin ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I was in Orkney last summer when the ferry ran aground. We were very lucky to get the last spaces on the alternative ferry on our original departure date. A lot of other visitors ended up stuck there for quite a while because flights and ferries filled very quickly.

  • @blabezeyy8236
    @blabezeyy8236 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I’m from Shetland and our dialect has a lot of similar words to the Norwegian language

  • @bulletholeteddy9223
    @bulletholeteddy9223 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    It's funny how Scotland is having the same problem as the uk as a whole with centralisation, it is a big problem since lots of the population is in the central belt around glasgow and Edinburgh

    • @ramadamming8498
      @ramadamming8498 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The 'UK' sort of largely ceased it's purpose after WW2 and the 1960s, well Hong Kong was 1990s. Now there is Gibraltar, Pitcairn, Tristan Da Cunha, St Helena, Falklands and the Sandwich Isles, that is it.

  • @arctic-1878
    @arctic-1878 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Welcome to Norway, Orkney ❤🤍💙

  • @MariusKleppe5055
    @MariusKleppe5055 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    We in Norway will gladly welcome the Orkney islands back home

    • @jandeusvult2920
      @jandeusvult2920 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes, from what I could gather that seem to be the case among the general population

    • @columnal8067
      @columnal8067 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      more oil for the norwegian oil conglomerates eh?

    • @ShadowTani
      @ShadowTani ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Aside from the fact that we have no legal process for annexing already claimed territory into ourselves, our constitution is about as anti-imperialistic as a national law can be. The Orkney islands are also closer to the UK, their logistical issue will not improve by joining us. It would be better if we hired out a group of road engineers to help them build an undersea tunnel so that the rust buckets they got going now can be phased out.

    • @Nabium
      @Nabium ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I think we probably would welcome them, but, I just don't remember anybody asking us. I mean, they're kinda just trying to get this done with without consulting us. And I don't think the people of Norway would want anything but to meet our Orkney brethren with open arms, but there's some constitutional challenges with all of this.
      And furthermore they're using the Faroe Islands as an example they'd like to copy. But, in Scandinavia we kinda realise that in time the Faroe Islands will eventually become independent. They're a seperate nation to Denmark. If Orkney wants more independence, why then go backwards into Norway when they can become fully independent?
      Us Norwegians are very proud of our independence from Denmark and Sweden and thus celebrate the notion of independence in smaller nations. We don't see "former Norwegians" as Norwegians. We see Faroese and Iceland and seperate nations and seperate people, who trace their origins to Norway. Same could be said about Orkney in that regards. Why would they need to join us? Why could they not get fully independent?

    • @kukifitte7357
      @kukifitte7357 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nabium I think if we were to let them join us (assuming they really want to) that they should perhaps get more self-governance than other parts of norway and obviously get funding from us. I also agree with them being seperate people, I remember reading Iceland had this small party that wanted Iceland to join norway. Nothing obviously ever came of this but I would dislike if they became a part of us as I fear we would negatively affect their unique language and culture. Again, maybe if they got special privileges of being almost totally self governing but self government is more fun as the denmark-norway union and sweden-norway unions taught us.

  • @In_my_own_mind
    @In_my_own_mind ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Well, from the Viking Age to the Middle Age, Norwegian was spoken on the Orkney Islands; it is known from runic inscriptions from before 1200

    • @auldfouter8661
      @auldfouter8661 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Norn ( a Viking influenced language ) was spoken in Orkney until about 1800.

  • @FullaEels
    @FullaEels ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "scotland was an independent colony" interesting slip up there, lol

  • @PityMeofDurham
    @PityMeofDurham ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Saw this weeks ago and it sounds absolutely crazy but I want it to happen bc, as a Swede, it's kind of fun our brothers get another Island or more like Svalbard and Jan Mayen.

  • @sgjoni
    @sgjoni ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Fun fact, Iceland and the Faroe Islands were almost going to be included in that debt collateral 😮

  • @yougoslavia
    @yougoslavia ปีที่แล้ว +27

    The island groups in the North sea and that area are going to be even more odd. The Faroe islands are Danish despite being closer to Norway and the UK than Denmark, the Shetland islands are British despite the fact that they will be closer to Norway than the UK and the Orkney islands will be Norwegian despite being right next to the UK. To make things even more funny, I think the outer Hebrides should go to Ireland.

  • @WolfHeathen
    @WolfHeathen ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is actually a good proposition. It would benefit them tremendously. Norway is extremely rich and prosperous with a health political system, which, compared to many other nations, doesn't go too far towards any end of the political spectrum.

  • @tessjuel
    @tessjuel ปีที่แล้ว +7

    3:00 It's even worse than what you describe. It was the *Danish* king who pawned *Norwegian* land to cover his daughter's dowry. Yes, he was the king of Norway too but the two coumtries had different laws and the king could not legally cede Norwegian land without the approval of the Norwegian parliament and they weren't even told about it. Needless to say, that did not go down very well among the Norwegians. The relationship between Denmark and Norway was never the same again and Chrstian I and his successors had to keep sending Danish officials and officers to Norway to pacify the natives.
    Personally I'm happy about that. I'm a descendant of at least one of those Danish oppressors so if it hadn't happened, I wouldn't have been born.

  • @Lemonz1989
    @Lemonz1989 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fun fact: The Danish Kingdom is a unitary state according to its constitution, but is able to work around that with regards to Greenland and the Faroe Islands by saying they are “delegating competencies” to the Faroese and Greenlandic governments, but that the Danish government will always be the supreme ruler in the Kingdom. Basically saying they can take the power back at any point in time. They aren’t going to do that obviously, but it was the solution they came up with.

  • @DraslyThe1
    @DraslyThe1 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    The Norwegian Kingdom controlled these islands for over 800 years - The Orkney Islands are a big and important part of the Norwegian Norse history. I´m a Norwegian whom at age of 12 moved to The Orkney Islands. I´m now 19 and I occasionally comes back to my home city Bergen. (Norway) I have strong connections to both places and I was genuinely sad that Norway said that they had no thoughts about it, and that we does not want to be a part of this dispute. The Orkney Islands are rightful Norway´s territory. My family really want Orkney to be a part of Norway again. I really hope Norway step up and start a conversation with UK, where Orkney can be a part of Norway, but they are independent.

    • @eirikarnesen9691
      @eirikarnesen9691 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      dont be so hasty young one, the islands will be welcomed back home in time

    • @julianshepherd2038
      @julianshepherd2038 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      500 years ago maybe but the Orcadians only speak English and Scots not Norwegian or Norn.

    • @julianshepherd2038
      @julianshepherd2038 ปีที่แล้ว

      They want money from the Edinburgh governme t for new ferries despite them being Highland Council owned ferries and them having more money than anyone else I scotland except aberdonians and shetlands.

    • @DraslyThe1
      @DraslyThe1 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@julianshepherd2038 I have to stop you there, as someone whom has been living there nearly my entire life, plus my family been living there for ages, over 30% of the population is Norwegian. Plus I hear people speak Norwegian to each others. Yea 30% of over 22K inhabitants are not much and the language is rare - But still you hear it around.

    • @oyungogdfrust4136
      @oyungogdfrust4136 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      norwegian irredentism

  • @SemiHypercube
    @SemiHypercube ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Perfectly reasonable for anyone to want to leave the UK

    • @columnal8067
      @columnal8067 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Im sure the scottish government will be so happy to let their oil leave.....

    • @columnal8067
      @columnal8067 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True though, if orkney wants to leave they should leave. Same for if chechnya wants to leave russia... or if texas or california or cascadia want to leave the USA... but I presume you wouldnt have the same notion on that?

    • @togerboy5396
      @togerboy5396 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why don’t we just make all the politicians form their own country in Westminster palace and then the rest of us can leave.

    • @COMEINTOMYWORLD
      @COMEINTOMYWORLD ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@columnal8067 It's not their oil. It's the UK's. Scotland was bankcrupt and was rescued by England.

  • @ericmyrs
    @ericmyrs ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Let's go Orkneyar!
    We welcome your return to Noregsveldet.

    • @DialecticDave
      @DialecticDave ปีที่แล้ว

      Will Norway be paying Scotland reparations for the genocide of the native Pictish population?

    • @ericmyrs
      @ericmyrs ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DialecticDave No. We squared up when sinclair did his thing.

    • @user-hu6lr3vr7g
      @user-hu6lr3vr7g 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Indigenous population of Orkney are Pictish NOT Norse!!! You do know that! Right?

  • @jamesmaskell8763
    @jamesmaskell8763 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Watching you ramble for 20 minutes once a week has become a staple of my diet. Keep up the good work lol

    • @UltraSuperDuperFreak
      @UltraSuperDuperFreak ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea. Best part is when he suddenly get "wild" out of sheer joy and excitement, over a fact that proberly havent crossed most peoples mind at all evar haha

  • @jaydflay4809
    @jaydflay4809 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I love your videos so much. Thank you for your videos, Toycat!

  • @graemedoctor7266
    @graemedoctor7266 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Orkney does not want to leave UK and join Norway. Some people in Orkney are dissatisfied with Edinburgh and London and are considering alternative forms of government including greater autonomy. Joining Norway is a minority position and one of a number of ideas suggested by councillors - and it’s good clickbait.

    • @Smulenify
      @Smulenify ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Having a backup plan, even if it would never happen, is good for negotiations. The more people talk about it the better, as it puts pressure on the government.

  • @sola_is_chilling
    @sola_is_chilling ปีที่แล้ว +3

    if orkney wants to go back to norway we better get a refund

  • @zalzalahbuttsaab
    @zalzalahbuttsaab ปีที่แล้ว +40

    If you can't be bothered with 18 minutes of waffle. here's a summary: The Orkney Islands, part of the UK, are contemplating becoming a Norwegian territory. Dissatisfaction with the UK and Scottish governments, especially regarding funding for their ferry services, has led to this consideration. They're exploring different statuses, such as a crown dependency or a self-governing territory. The islands, rich in oil resources, believe they're not receiving adequate government support in return. The idea of joining Norway isn't far-fetched, considering Orkney's historical ties with the country. The decision could potentially reshape the islands' future relationship with the UK and Scotland.

    • @davidcovington901
      @davidcovington901 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Better than one minute of this!

    • @talkalexis
      @talkalexis ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If you can't be bothered with reading, just put the video on 2x speed.

    • @turtledude1005
      @turtledude1005 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Why would u even watch if u don’t want waffle that’s his whole channel

    • @Randomstuffs261
      @Randomstuffs261 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I would love 18 minutes of waffle right now, covered in warm Chocolate sauce. Maybe some icecream.
      No idea what an Orkey is or anything tbh though. I'll pass on that and stick with the waffle

    • @k0pstl939
      @k0pstl939 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@Randomstuffs261maybe some nutella and cinnamon

  • @Aidan_Au
    @Aidan_Au ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks Toy Cat! I like all your videos about Norway and other Nordic countries.
    Please keep making more!

  • @seanoreilly7293
    @seanoreilly7293 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I am from the Isle of Man,currently living in Scotland. The Manx were ruled by the Norse centuries ago,and the legal system is based on Danelaw. We were also owned by a Bishop, The Lord of the isles,and the odd despot or two. The isle of Man is a Crown dependency and a convenient off shore bank. I can't see the Brits giving up any land to any other state. They see these Islands as one country, despite the fact that three countries make up the (dis)United Kingdom.

    • @rusticpartyeditz
      @rusticpartyeditz ปีที่แล้ว

      Three countries plus a province (or whatever NI is) in the UK.

    • @tessjuel
      @tessjuel ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, the Isle of Man, the Hebrides and Skye used to be Norwegian too but that's different. Scotland won those islands through war the good old fashioned way, not through some shady underhanded dealings.

    • @j377yb33n
      @j377yb33n ปีที่แล้ว

      just look at how hard britain are holding onto northern ireland, despite not really caring about it

    • @cerdic6305
      @cerdic6305 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@j377yb33n the UK isn't really 'holding onto' Northern Ireland, they just haven't left yet. they're pretty much completely free to go as soon as they can actually get themselves together and decide to.

    • @j377yb33n
      @j377yb33n ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cerdic6305 it's a bit more complex than that, especially saying that so close to the 12th

  • @benjamintomassennordahl7911
    @benjamintomassennordahl7911 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    As a Norwegian we would happily welcome them back as an autonomous region, the same goes for the Shetland Islands, Faroe Islands and Greenland. It would be a very symbiotic relationship, with Orkney island offering resources and the Norwegian government providing significant funding to education, healthcare, infrastructure and more.

    • @Nooticus
      @Nooticus ปีที่แล้ว

    • @julianshepherd2038
      @julianshepherd2038 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You will have to teach them Norwegian because ether speak strong Scots and English on the phone.

    • @In_my_own_mind
      @In_my_own_mind ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@julianshepherd2038 From the Viking Age to the Middle Age, Norwegian was spoken on the Orkney Islands; it is known from runic inscriptions from before 1200 😉

    • @MrFredericandre
      @MrFredericandre ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@In_my_own_mind They spoke old Norwegian, which is nowadays closer to Icelandic.

    • @benjamintomassennordahl7911
      @benjamintomassennordahl7911 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@julianshepherd2038 I mean most likely Galic & English would become official languages in the autonomous regions. Most Norwegians speak fluent English so that shouldn't be an issue.

  • @yougoslavia
    @yougoslavia ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't think the Summit Hotel in the Isle of Man is open anymore but I went there about a year ago and they had some good cakes so it's worth the journey.

  • @AndyZach
    @AndyZach ปีที่แล้ว +6

    From a US citizen's perspective, I know the Isle of Skye for Drambouie liquor. I know Shetland Isle for its ponies and wool. I'm more familiar with both than the Isle of Man. I knew the Orkney Islands are somewhere around the UK, but thanks to your video I know exactly where.

    • @jasonallen6081
      @jasonallen6081 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Look up the Isle of Man TT motorbike racing.

  • @Nabium
    @Nabium ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If we get back Orkney does that mean we'd have to finally pay Scotland that silver dowry we owe them? It's about 200 000 pounds sterling now, we could use that money for something else. Like building a couple of meter of motorway or something.

    • @Spacemongerr
      @Spacemongerr ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If anyone should, it would be the Danish. The Danish king took the Norwegian Orkneyislands and gave them to the Scottish king as dowry for the Danish king's wife.

    • @sundhaug92
      @sundhaug92 ปีที่แล้ว

      200 000 pounds sterling is "nothing" in terms of a national budget

    • @Nabium
      @Nabium ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@sundhaug92 Welcome to the joke.

    • @faithlesshound5621
      @faithlesshound5621 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wouldn't the mortgage have been expressed in Pounds Scots? Before the Union of Parliaments, the rate of exchange had deteriorated to 12 Pounds Scots = 1 Pound Sterling. One the other hand, there's the question of 551 years' worth of interest.

    • @Spacemongerr
      @Spacemongerr ปีที่แล้ว

      @@faithlesshound5621 I wouldn't worry about that, it's not that interesting

  • @auldfouter8661
    @auldfouter8661 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fun fact . The Hudson Bay Company recruited a whole lot of men from Orkney - as they were very tough people , used to extreme weather conditions. Quite a few married native women in Canada and some of these people and their children returned to Orkney - I think in the 18th century.

  • @wornyt
    @wornyt ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Who doesn’t want to be in norway

    • @osheridan
      @osheridan ปีที่แล้ว

      Weather wise? Never. If I could make my country a Norwegian territory though, that'd be great

    • @leighpowell1062
      @leighpowell1062 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sweedish people

    • @dabtican4953
      @dabtican4953 ปีที่แล้ว

      People who hate paying high tax

  • @sweetpea_8472
    @sweetpea_8472 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If you're going to the province of Quebec, take some time to go to Quebec itself as well. I was there last year, and really loved the city. Didn't see a lot of the province itself, except Saquenay, which was so beautiful, I'd go back there now, if I could...

  • @mrhappy623
    @mrhappy623 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’d definitely recommend driving up to the Gaspé peninsula from quebec city and then if you have time maybe head down to northeast New Brunswick (some parts there are almost completely french speaking so that’s interesting) and then down to Fundy National park (they have the largest tides in the world)

  • @Phoenix_is_god
    @Phoenix_is_god ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Country shopping my favourite thing to do in my pastime

  • @asdaneedsfunds
    @asdaneedsfunds ปีที่แล้ว +17

    As a resident of Yorkshire, I think it's time for a new Danelaw

    • @ramadamming8498
      @ramadamming8498 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No thanks. How about 'The Republic of Yorkshire'? Though far West Yorkshire / East Ridings area might disagree

  • @lartan18
    @lartan18 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    13km wide bridge? One of the funnier mistalks that ive heard in a while
    Edit: 11:20

    • @TheSaltyAdmiral
      @TheSaltyAdmiral ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's 13km wide and 1m long!

    • @thesuomi8550
      @thesuomi8550 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Just one more lane bro

    • @CryingAutumn
      @CryingAutumn ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Town planners in Toronto:

  • @dcseain
    @dcseain ปีที่แล้ว +2

    St Pierre et Miquelon is all that remains of New France in North America. France kept that when they ceded the rest to Britain.

  • @Birdsharna
    @Birdsharna ปีที่แล้ว +15

    As a Norwegian I have never heard about this issue. Although I won't say no to them joining Norway :]
    If there are any one from Orkney in this comment section: You will always be Norwegian in my heart ❤

    • @raahauge
      @raahauge ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As a Dane, I would like to know, if you would also like Greenland to join you? They don't like us in Denmark, so they should move on, I think.

    • @Birdsharna
      @Birdsharna ปีที่แล้ว

      @@raahauge Personally, and for my pride, yeah. Although that's if they would want to join us, which I don't think is likely because of 2 reasons:
      A. People from Greenland are mostly ethnically danish.
      B. Greenland would probably rather want to be independent.

    • @raahauge
      @raahauge ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Birdsharna They are not at all ethnic Danes. All they want is a Sugar-daddy who can pay for everything, so they can behave like children. That's their idea of independence, and that's why they don't leave Denmark despite Greenland has a standing offer to leave "the commonwealth" if they decide to do. But apparently, they can't find another Sugar-daddy, but in Norway you have the oil-fund so I thought ....

    • @Birdsharna
      @Birdsharna ปีที่แล้ว

      @@raahauge If they just want a Sugar-daddy than it's more likely that they'll go running to the US. The oil-fund is about $1 trillion, but that's nothing compared to what money the US has in their pockets. Also the point of the oil-fund is to invest the money that will better the Norwegian economy in the future. So the politicians must see if paying for Greenland to do whatever through the oil-fund is worth the investment and if it would better the Norwegian economy in the long run. (most likely not since the island is basically just a big chunk of ice rn)

    • @jeschinstad
      @jeschinstad ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@raahauge: We definitely want Greenland back, yes. There was a little war between Norwegians and Danes in the 1930s, you know. :)

  • @potts995
    @potts995 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Which way? Norway!

    • @DJPJ.
      @DJPJ. ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice slogan

  • @Seagull81006
    @Seagull81006 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    i doubt the UK would let Orkney go. Even if they tried to force themselves out, the UK could stop it. Plus , id be curious to see how people of the islands would vote if this came to a referendum

    • @queenbean7071
      @queenbean7071 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah doubtful UK would just let somewhere leave. That's not been how the UK does things.
      I also imagine Norway wouldn't want to get involved as Spain and some other European powers eould adamantly support the UK as they also have issues with groups trying to cecede.
      Just seems like it would be too much hassle for what it's worth, especially considering they gave them away in the first place

    • @jubmelahtes
      @jubmelahtes ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@queenbean7071Norway never gave it always. Denmark gave it away so in return we should give Jylland to Germany

    • @KiraFriede
      @KiraFriede ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jubmelahtes There has been an island swap between Germany and denmark in the not so distant past though.

    • @tessjuel
      @tessjuel ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jubmelahtes Hey! Jylland is the ancient land of the House of Juel! My ancestors fought hard to conquer it from the Jutes (or at least their hired mercenaries did). You don't just give it away to some filthy Saxons this way!
      I have a much better idea: Give Jylland to Norway as a compensation for the loss of those islands.

  • @sanneoi6323
    @sanneoi6323 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Subdivisions of subdivisions aren't that weird, a lot of countries have multiple levels of subdivisions.

  • @kevincronk7981
    @kevincronk7981 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    A region of Quebec which I have *definitely* not been to at all because I didn't fill out the paperwork to cross the border is right on said border, called the boundary waters. If you are physically capable of canoeing, you should check it out it's truly beautiful nature

    • @Duncan23
      @Duncan23 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's not even Quebec, if it's where i am thinking of it's on the border of Minnesota and Ontario

    • @parkmannate4154
      @parkmannate4154 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah its Ontario bud.
      Also Quebec is lovely just returned from there. It was so nice I didnt even mind having to speak French

    • @Gunnart
      @Gunnart ปีที่แล้ว

      how would you not be physically capable for canoeing? i mean unless you dont have arms or something, or you weight 500 kilos

  • @CryingAutumn
    @CryingAutumn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Toycat, I would recommend you visit Lac-Mégantic. It is a small town of which on July 6th, 2013 a train carrying crude oil derailed into the historic town-centre, completely destroying it, and killing 47 people, who of which 5 were instantly vaporised. it isn't much of a fun, or exciting location, but I would like to see you go. It's more of a show of rememberance than anything.

  • @trevorx6703
    @trevorx6703 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've heard Montreal, Mont-Tremblant and Quebec City are nice places to visit. Maybe good in the fall when the colours are at their best and the forest fires are out.

  • @L4r5man
    @L4r5man ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I for one welcome our Orkney underlings.

  • @shibayamatomoki8430
    @shibayamatomoki8430 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    St. Pierre and Miquelon (SPM) are basically the last and "final" remenants of New France that France still has control as of today. Most of its economy today is heavily based on fishery and tourism (from neighboring Canada mostly) and has reciprocity agreements with Canada for things like allowing them access to Canadian medicare, etc.
    At the end of the Seven Years War at the 1763 Treaty of Paris, France ceded most of its lands to the victorious British empire, but allowed France to retain the colonies, although on-and-off occupations by the British military were frequent (due to France's support of Americans during the revolutionary war, and any subsequent skirmishes) until 1816 after peace negotiations with Britain (Canada at the time) and the United States normalized relations with France after the war of 1812.
    By the 1900s, SPM has flirted breaking off with France and joining the US (and later Canada), but the idea never really materialized, unlike Quebec: its more autonomous, free-spirit, Eurocentric-minded sister who was also raised by the French, but adopted as a late-stage, rebellious teenager by the British.
    Today though, SPM is a fun and remote seaside destination reachable by ferry from Newfoundland (or seasonal summer flights from Paris), full of French cuisine with a maritime twist, and despite not part of the Schengen, it is a part of France, treated as such, represented at the National Assembly, its inhabitants are French and EU citizens, and like the rest of France it uses the Euro as the currency (although they do widely accept Canadian dollars), license plates are EU-styled starting with "SPM", uses 220v Type C, E, and F plug outlets, and drives on right side of the road.

  • @TheLocalLt
    @TheLocalLt ปีที่แล้ว +2

    With Greenland and America, the conversation has always been pretty openly centered around America buying the territory. During the 2019 dispute over CCP-funded airports caused by Denmark’s lack of subsidies, where this issue was last discussed, a more realistic alternative was proposed for Greenland to become independent with America providing those much-needed subsidies.
    That’s of course talking on a serious level; on the other hand I’m sure our political extremists here at home on both sides of the aisle would indeed turn it into some ideological issue

    • @gamermapper
      @gamermapper ปีที่แล้ว

      And that's extremely stupid. Greenland has a much better deal with Denmark that the indigenous people of the US have with America. Even Hawaii, annexed relatively recently by the US, already lost a lot of their culture because of large settlement and the oppression of their culture. As for the Native Americans, I think it's already pretty clear.

    • @TheLocalLt
      @TheLocalLt ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gamermapper how is Hawaiian or Native American culture “oppressed”? Sure at one time, while wars and skirmishes between settlers and natives were still common, that was the case (things like missions and re-education schools), but today these cultures are openly celebrated as part of wider American culture. Whether one thinks this amounts to appropriation of these cultural elements is a different argument.
      As far as Denmark goes, why were they going to let the CCP build those airports (until the United States stepped in an offered to buy Greenland and pick up Denmark’s tab rather than let the CCP in)?
      The compromise option of Greenlandic independence with American military, financial, and diplomatic backing would probably be the best case scenario for Greenland, but will probably not come up again unless there is another instance of Denmark failing to meet its obligations.
      In any case, Denmark has a centuries-long history with the territory, so the status quo is probably be best for geopolitical stability. However the Danes do have an obligation to ensure the diplomatic security of American installations there, mainly by keeping NATO’s enemies like the CCP out of Greenland’s infrastructure and rare-earth mining.

  • @epiccrusadr8583
    @epiccrusadr8583 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As someone who has Orkney descent way down my line, i think they should join norway

    • @jasonfischer8946
      @jasonfischer8946 ปีที่แล้ว

      As someone who can find Orkney on a map and can type it, I think it doesn't matter.

    • @epiccrusadr8583
      @epiccrusadr8583 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jasonfischer8946 fair enough

  • @sundhaug92
    @sundhaug92 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Greenland and the Faroe islands are in different situations: Greenland is a country within the country of Denmark

  • @5688gamble
    @5688gamble ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Policing by consent, but the laws are UK wide. So if a large number of people are against plant prohibition, they don't get to refuse consent to be policed, no matter if their area has a majority who disagree with that law! So what is the point?

    • @faithlesshound5621
      @faithlesshound5621 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only some laws are UK-wide. Many are specific to Scotland only, or England-and-Wales. The constitution and legal systems are different too.

  • @kilipaki87oritahiti
    @kilipaki87oritahiti ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well it used to be under Norwegian rule so… and they got close ties to Norway, historically, culturally snd genetically.

  • @nathanaelsadgrove
    @nathanaelsadgrove ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Being honest, every council area has be failed by the UK government, so can't blame Orkney. Also alot of islands have been failed by the Scottish Government who is responsible for ferries, which island councils have been propping up as of late.

  • @isabelstokes4042
    @isabelstokes4042 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I live on the Borders. I am quite happy to go to Norway. I'm Scottish and it sounds like a fabulous idea!

  • @FingerBob
    @FingerBob ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I welcome the Orkneys back to the kingdom

  • @Onibushou
    @Onibushou ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What bothers me about St Pierre and Miquelon is not their political ties, but the fact that they have a different time zone than Newfoundland.

  • @GazilionPT
    @GazilionPT ปีที่แล้ว +5

    11:36 Distance is not the only (and not even the main) factor. Sea depth is much more important, and so is the kind of rock you have on the seabed.
    If there is a deep trench between the Orkneys and mainland Scotland, the bridge will be much more expensive (or even technically unfeasible) compared to a long bridge build on shallow waters.
    Instead of single span bridge (11+ km), from Burwick to somewhere near John O'Groats, it would probably be cheaper and technically simpler to make it in 3 sections: from Burwick to the island of Swona (4.5 km), then from Swona to the island of Stroma (6 km), and finally from Stroma to mainland Scotland (3 km).

  • @Jay_Johnson
    @Jay_Johnson ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Far more people live on Prince Edward Island and the highlands of Scotland have poor road connections to build a bridge from.

  • @effexon
    @effexon ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First place wanting to join norway... I knew scotland wants to exit UK but this is interesting. Toycat has talent for diplomacy.

  • @SpiritEngine
    @SpiritEngine ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think it's the apparent success of the Norwegian oil fund which would make Orcadians compare their situation in Scotland (as part of the UK which wasted the oil wealth.) If Scotland left the UK, formed a proper sovereign fund and went into EFTA Orkney would then be in a prosperous country with a fantastic strong currency backed by oil and renewable energy, part of a club of culturally similar nations.

  • @cys_box
    @cys_box ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tons of islands used to be Norwegian possessions, including some in the Hebrides and almost every island flag includes a Nordic cross! Just some little fun facts, isn’t really a good point to say it should join Norway or else Scotland would lose all its islands by the same logic

  • @mynic2176
    @mynic2176 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey toycat! You definitely check out Montreal if you weren’t planning to already. Great food all over the city and probably the only place in all of Quebec where you’ll get around just fine in English. For the road trip, you might wanna check the entirety of gaspé, very beautiful maritime vibe

  • @JMOlsen_
    @JMOlsen_ ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Of course they would want to become a part of Norway. Stronger economy and more sensibly governed. They will need to learn Norwegian though. Not a hard thing for English speaking people.

  • @davidlally592
    @davidlally592 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aaah Norway..the one with the award winning "crinkly bits" (ahem the fjords) as done by Slarty Bartfast, from Douglas Adams "The Hitchikers Guide To The Galaxy"..!!

  • @22imon
    @22imon ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hey toycat, my dad left me, but this supreme quality video sure made my day! when you come to canada you should stop by alert, i heard it’s a pretty cool place

    • @CryingAutumn
      @CryingAutumn ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's literally the northernmost inhabited location on earth.

    • @rapmonkeyxl
      @rapmonkeyxl ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CryingAutumn i went there from angola, but the embassy was closed and i had to walk to toronto

    • @CryingAutumn
      @CryingAutumn ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rapmonkeyxl On Google maps I added a fake Mcdonalds to Alert and it was there for a long time before google took it down.

  • @nobbynobbynoob
    @nobbynobbynoob ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Minor correction: 🇮🇲 income tax is not zero, but it never exceeds 20 per cent.
    Source: me; I'm considering relocating to the island, primarily to escape the UK tax man.

  • @StenGunMK1
    @StenGunMK1 ปีที่แล้ว

    this was a very informative, easy to understand and really interesting. Great video! subbed:)

  • @osea5000
    @osea5000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    18:24 I know fishermen from Brittany sailed to these islands in the past to gain a livelihood. Like elsewhere, these borders reflect the various disputes between the French and the English.

  • @brandonm8901
    @brandonm8901 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Crown Dependency seems to make a lot more sense

    • @jeschinstad
      @jeschinstad ปีที่แล้ว

      That is exactly what they want.

    • @DJPJ.
      @DJPJ. ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, to the Norwegian crown.

  • @LynxLord1991
    @LynxLord1991 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Greenland also didnt have a native population when the Vikings arrived there only after they left did native Canadian tribes move there also building bridges are not that simple especially at sea

  • @sanneoi6323
    @sanneoi6323 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Feels kinda weird to hear Scotland be referred to as a subdivision. The "countries" of the UK are much like the constituent republics of the Russian Federation imo.

  • @Mosern1977
    @Mosern1977 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Scotland + Orkney to join United Kingdom of Norway...

    • @In_my_own_mind
      @In_my_own_mind ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why not 😉 Norways King, King Harald, was Queen Elisabeth’s second cousin.

    • @DJPJ.
      @DJPJ. ปีที่แล้ว

      And oil money💰

  • @debbiegilmour6171
    @debbiegilmour6171 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People (and I'll stress here that it's decidedly not Orcadians or Shetlanders) keep jumping on this idea, usually as some kind of perverse counter argument to the Scottish independence movement. Usually in the context of 'the Scottish government doesn't govern the Isles properly' and so on, ignoring several key points about the governance of Scotland including our islands.
    The thing is, the movement doesn't exist. There is one liberal orcadian councillor, considered widely to be a mad eccentric, who keeps going on about it and the media (London based) dutifuly keeps picking up on it every few months with barely concealed glee. Ask any Orcadian in Kirkwall about it and they'll look at you as if you were touched in the head.
    If you think Orcadians keep electing this councillor because he holds this view, you'd be very much mistaken. The reason he keeps getting voted in is that he is in the Lib Dems and Orkney is one of the few places that consistently votes Lib Dem even today, a hangover from the days of the old liberal party. It's got to the point where most Orcadians vote lib dem by default, because that's the way they've always voted and that's how their forebears voted too.
    Tl;dr, there is no specific Orcadian or Shetland independence movement, they're far too set in their ways for that.

  • @parkmannate4154
    @parkmannate4154 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, as we all know from Crusader Kings, Shetlands, Orkney and Faroes are all properly part of the Kingdom of Norway

  • @TheNmecod
    @TheNmecod ปีที่แล้ว

    Also Saguenay-Lac-Saint-Jean is actually very strong cultural center in Quebec and the town of Saguenay (used to be Chicoutimi) is one of the bigger cities in Quebec. In Saguenay-lac-st-jean, Tadoussac is a must, a little village at the opening of the fjord where you can see whales by ferry and hike around the fjord

  • @rocky_hockey6447
    @rocky_hockey6447 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you're doing a road trip, the most beautiful part of Quebec is definitely the Gaspé Peninsula just at the north of New Brunswick. They have the most beautiful national parks in Quebec and this is where the Appalachian mountain range pass through. All the biggest mountain are in this region, the National Gaspesie Park is absolutely stunning. And you have the famous Percé Rock and all of the nice beaches aroud. It's viewed as the most touristic part of Quebec far from the big cities

  • @OlagGan
    @OlagGan ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Get your history sorted out. There were TWO unions. One was 1603 or near abouts. That's wh6 you should really say James 1st of England 6th of Scotland, as Scotland had 6 James's , England didn't have one up until Elizabeth 1st died. This was more a political union more than a complete union. They even made a flag for this union with the St George's cross obvi(usly being in front ovèr James objections 5hat the Saltire should be upper most. However Scotland still pootled about as usual with its own banks etc. However in 1707 Sc9tland was in a bad way. They had lost millions in the Darien disaste4, so a d3al was made with a number of notable Scots. Money was received by the Sco5s and Scotland became joined to England and under 5he control or the English government. However Sc9tland was allowed to keep their own banks and many of their own laws. The legal System BTW remained under Scottish control, hence even now Scottish law is different from English law in many ways.

  • @user-il4ux8ml5p
    @user-il4ux8ml5p ปีที่แล้ว +19

    can’t we just invade them or say no

  • @octavioquartio
    @octavioquartio ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting video! Norway was independent, but with the same king as Denmark and, partially at least, Sweden, in the 15th century. Independence was lost in 1536. Therefore there is no need to include Denmark in this kerfuffle. They cost us the Faroe Islands, Iceland and Greenland anyway, so we shouldn't give them the satisfaction of being included here.

    • @puderkman
      @puderkman ปีที่แล้ว

      I second this. No offense to the Danes, but they've ruined things enough for us.

  • @jeffreyboggleton
    @jeffreyboggleton ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think that the Orkney Islands should only be a country if it unites with the Shetland Islands and gets a big paywall every few months by either the UK, Denmark and/or Norway.

  • @COMEINTOMYWORLD
    @COMEINTOMYWORLD ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's like a spoilt 18 year old demanding a payment from their parents... or anyone,...so they can live ..very ironically...independently...

  • @OhioDF
    @OhioDF ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A Little mistake, you pointed to the Shetland Islands not the Faroe Islands

  • @mer5782
    @mer5782 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looking at history most of the islands in europe back in time where all a part of Norway, the ones closest to Norway

  • @McConnachy
    @McConnachy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lets face it, Orkney and Shetland, although the people are predominately of Scottish origin, they are culturally Norwegian, and the Norwegians are amongst the most advanced nations on the planet, it seems a good idea to join Norway. Scotland will return to being Scotland

  • @samdaniels2
    @samdaniels2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I thought they might become a crown dependency like Jersey or the isle of Mann.

  • @starroving6464
    @starroving6464 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    If only Norn language was revived as well

    • @columnal8067
      @columnal8067 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wont happen unless the younger generation of orkney decides to (unlikely as most go off into english speaking jobs on the mainland instead of finding work on orkney)

    • @jasonfischer8946
      @jasonfischer8946 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just what the world needs, another language.

    • @DraslyThe1
      @DraslyThe1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jasonfischer8946 what do you mean ´bout that? the language is already made an exist as a language its just extinct.

    • @martychisnall
      @martychisnall ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There’s a revival movement called Nynorn, look it up.

    • @jasonfischer8946
      @jasonfischer8946 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @DraslyThe1 I mean why revive it and add yet another language to the menu when they already have a language?

  • @hagalathekido
    @hagalathekido ปีที่แล้ว +2

    based historical reunion? im all for it

  • @bnforgie
    @bnforgie ปีที่แล้ว

    Algonquin Park is part of Nipissing District, which is part of Ontario, which is part of Canada and its larger than the US state of Delaware

  • @perrrry
    @perrrry ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Mine viking venner, igjen er vi samlet. Skål!

    • @VikingNorway-pb5tm829
      @VikingNorway-pb5tm829 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Så bra da :) Hei å hå

    • @Spacemongerr
      @Spacemongerr ปีที่แล้ว +4

      In Scandinavian, like all Germanic languages except English, nouns are made into one word if the noun represents one concept. In this case, friend-who-is-viking: vikingvenn, vikingvenner.
      If you leave it as two words, the second word is interpreted as a verb.
      For example, "brødskjærer" means "bread cutter", while "brød skjærer" means "bread is cutting".

    • @MrFredericandre
      @MrFredericandre ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Skål!

  • @ThatTallGuy0
    @ThatTallGuy0 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Cam Norway take Yorkshire too

    • @rascallybloom567
      @rascallybloom567 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vi kan kjøpe hele England om dere vil, dere får ikke noen penger da

    • @VikingNorway-pb5tm829
      @VikingNorway-pb5tm829 ปีที่แล้ว

      UK folks?

    • @ThatTallGuy0
      @ThatTallGuy0 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@VikingNorway-pb5tm829 most of our towns in Yorkshire are named after Viking’s TAKE US BACK PLEASE 😩

    • @VikingNorway-pb5tm829
      @VikingNorway-pb5tm829 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThatTallGuy0 Yes you can come :) Welcome and rememer to say: Hei å hå... then its ok :)

  • @gwaptiva
    @gwaptiva ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting that Orkney wants to join another non-EU country... guess they were Brexiteers after all. Bit of a freudian slip there: "Scotland was an independent colony", right?

  • @zienatasilviestu4698
    @zienatasilviestu4698 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you go to Quebec you should visit the forest fires that have been periodically blighting the US Northeast with haze and smoke.

  • @alfredwaldo6079
    @alfredwaldo6079 ปีที่แล้ว

    Poor Britain going from ruling the largest empire to ever exist to barley managing to hold on to it's archipelago and island

  • @torstenpedersen9792
    @torstenpedersen9792 ปีที่แล้ว

    The elements of the Confederation Bridge were put in place by the same vessel ("Svanen") that put in place the elements of the Great Belt bridge (before) and the Øresund bridge (after).

  • @Gargocop
    @Gargocop ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A Gaelteacht region in the west of Ireland maybe?
    Dingle (Daingean Uí Chúis) is kinda magical

  • @samsam21amb
    @samsam21amb ปีที่แล้ว

    The ad break was amazing! Would watch/buy again - oh wait, it’s a subscription…

  • @rogofos
    @rogofos ปีที่แล้ว

    to be fair, if I was a part of the UK I too would leave to Norway
    UK is an absolute cluster fuck especially recently

  • @Zaeyrus
    @Zaeyrus ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Glad you finally accepted a sponsorship! KebabVPN sounds really legit!

  • @brittakriep2938
    @brittakriep2938 ปีที่แล้ว

    Orkney and Shetland Islands are Norwegian Territory! In middleage scottish king lended (?) norwegian king a large sum of Money. Because norwegian king could not give back the money at once, so scottish king got the noted Islands as a , Pfand' (? don' t know english word). So norwegian king could buy back the Islands.

  • @micarocks
    @micarocks ปีที่แล้ว

    @ibx2cat you'd have fun checking out map compare sites - some let you drag and drop countries on top of each other/continents, some choose an assortment to overlay with the country you pick, plus give you neat stats for extra perspective :)