I'm finding this series very interesting... As an American who had the great fortune to be stationed in the Netherlands in the U.S. Forces (Soesterberg AB 1989-1993), and who's been happily married to a lovely Dutch woman for going on 29 years, I find this topic very interesting. Even more so when I was introduced to my wife's maternal grandparents, they spoke amazing English and I immediately noticed his WWII memorabilia, books and other related materials and we bonded over our love of history. He broke out his photos, shared his experience during the war, he was actually in the Dutch Cavalry in the 30's, was reactivated prior to the German Invasion and spoke of his war years working in a German arms factory... You can imagine the plot twist as we left that initial meeting, I was all smiles from the exciting conversation, when my wife (still girlfriend at the time) had to tell me the dark side of the story...how her grandfather had actually been a member of the NSB, and well, how things didn't go so well for him after the war.... Quit in contrast to her fathers family where family members had died during the last winter of occupation....anyway, I could go on for ever, but needless to say, the history is both fascinating, and at times painful.... Keep up the great work!
You were stationed next to my former hometown of Amersfoort. Still can remember US soldiers in town. My grandfather served as an aircraft mechanic in Soesterberg. Mostly working on the Fokker planes. I'm tempted to tell his name (his last name is different than mine) but I won't. Thank you for your service. Your reassuring presence was more than welcome in these tense cold war years. I hope you and your wife are doing well to this day.
@@gauloiseguy I loved my time there and still have dear friends (in addition to family) I remember going on vacation within the Netherlands with some friends in the Dutch AF and meeting a very nice man who was from Belgium, he was happy to meet me and had a T-shirt that said to the effect of "I'd rather have a missile in my garden (referring to the fact that the U.S. had medium range weapons stationed there at the time) than a Russian in my kitchen". There was great Esprit De Corps between the NATO forces at that time.
I can't wait for the video where you will cover their fighting success because you can't deny that many of them such as men of battalion de Ruyter, Gerardus Mooyman or Derk Elsko Bruins showed outstanding bravery for which they were awarded with Knight's Crosses. Also Himmler himself said and predicted that Dutchmen are going to be the first Germanic volunteers awarded with them which turned out right.
@@illHumiliation Yeah, fight some big evil, on the side of another big evil. What is the difference beetween bolsheviks and nazis? They were equally horrible. What are you talking about?
GoedenavondHistory Hustle,Ik hoorde bij 3.12 dat je Nederlands spreekt.Mijn engels is behoorlijk,maar in het Nederlands makkelijker,minder spelfouten sorry.Ik wil je ongelooflijk veel danken voor dit filmpje,waar ik zojuist mijn vader herkende.Foto bij 7.05,die jonge jongen van toen 16.Ongelooflijk veel dank daarvoor.Was al zolang er na op zoek,Mijn vader is in 1993 overleden op 66 jarige leeftijd aan longkanker,veels te jong,En vandaag 27 jaar geleden was hij samen nog met mijn moeder bij ons 2e kerstdag.Zijn geboorte jaar was 7 feb 1927 behoorlijk toevallig allemaal.Het is allemaal wat te lang om nu te vertellen,maar heb vele verhalen aangehoord over het oostfront,was een hel zei mijn vader.Ik kan je niet genoeg bedanken voor de duidelijke foto van mijn pa.Ik ga denk ik in de toekomst nog wel eens wat dieper op de zaak in,om het verhaal van mijn vader wat completer te maken.gr Theo.
Dag Theo, dat is jouw vader op 7:05 ? Ongelooflijk! Dank voor het berichten. U kunt mij altijd e-mailen. Adres staat in iedere video-omschrijving onder de video. Dank voor het bericht nogmaals.
@@HistoryHustle Nog vele malen dank,zonder u had ik dit nooit kunnen waarnemen,ik ben erg blij met deze foto en dit filmpje.Ik ga zeker u nog binnenkort een keer mailen.gr Theo.
This is awesome I’m reading that book you recommended!! Wiking. Omg I could not put it down last night!! Ohhh my thank you sir!! I’m super glad you got 50 thousand subs!! Great job!!
Hallo Stefan, mooi hoe je het onderwerp op deze manier onder de aandacht brengt. En leuk om te zien hoeveel interesse er is van een groot (internationaal) publiek. Ik ben zeer benieuwd naar het volgende deel! Fijne feestdagen. Hartelijke groet, Evertjan van Roekel
Hoi Evertjan, leuk om van je te horen! Je hebt een geweldig boek geschreven wat van groot nut is voor de video's. Onlangs gebruikte ik fragmenten uit je boek in de geschiedenisles. Leerlingen vonden dit erg interessant. Bedankt voor je reactie.
There was a misconception back them when I was learning spanish (yes, we speak portuguese in Brasil), and my Cuban teacher heard about the German settlers in my town (Ivoti), described as colonists. "No es una colonia, es un asentamiento." Gracias!
The IV SS Panzer Korp was mainly 2 SS Divisions Totenkopf & Wiking under old Wiking Commander Herbert Otto Gille was named as the most combat effective of all SS units right up to the end of the war. This was a statement by a number of Germans. Even German General Hermann Balck, who disliked the Wiking SS at first until he seen their tenacity right up to the end of the fighting on the Eastern front. IV SS Panzer Korp took part in Hitlers last offensive in Hungary where they made 3 relief attempts on Budapest. Gille was one of only a handful of SS men who received the Knights cross with oakleaves, swords and diamonds.The Highest award of all in German army.
Yes, I agree. There are already two episodes about this. Have you seen them? Dutch Waffen-SS PART I: th-cam.com/video/bQlF0ia-ABA/w-d-xo.html Dutch Waffen-SS PART II: th-cam.com/video/MXLjRwGGx4U/w-d-xo.html
I'm really enjoying this series Stefan. While it is not something I'm proud of, my great grandfather was in the Wiking division and survived the war. It's interesting to find out what he may have done during his time there.
@@HistoryHustle because for my oma en opa it's a very controversial topic, I know very little. All I know is that he was from Delft, was in the Wiking division and served on the eastern front. I hope one day I can find out more.
@@obamabin-laden2420 The eastern front is something a lot of old veterans don't want to talk about, I hope your grandfather will find peace of mind in the end
Very remarkable comments (the SS man in Warsaw) which I think show the Idealism that some of these men had. Not unthinking thugs but mislead young men looking to be part of something they thought would bring about a better world. Different times. Excellent video as allways.
My father was a Dutch-American born in a New Jersey town which was full of Dutch immigrants, and people of Dutch ancestry. My grandfather, Marinus, also born in NJ, was a US Army soldier in 1917 who fought in France. My dad was a US Army Air Corps volunteer in 1940, a year and a half before Pearl Harbor, who served during WWII and Korea. The family back in Holland had served in the Netherlands army with distinction dating back to the Spanish Siege of Haarlem in 1572, serving as Engineer officers in every generation. One was a Major General during the Napoleonic Wars and after, marrying the sister of Johan Rudolf Thorbecke (she was my great-great-great grandmother). It was thus incredibly surprising to me to discover that some distant cousins served in SS Westland--my sister showed me their service history. Apparently they had both been in the KNIL, but were recruited by the SS . They served in Ukraine, one dying of injuries in a hospital near Odesa, the other unknown. I don't know much more about the brothers aside from that (the relatives in the Netherlands don't have much to say about them, for obvious reasons). The point is that it happens even in good families that they joined (and died) in the SS.
One of the German Wiking officers later stated "we basicly were the first European Army, if the EU wants to know how to organise the next just ask us how"
Hard to believe the Dutch could be masculine enough to defend their own self interests let alone Europe. Crazy times back in those days. Things are better now.... Right?
History Hustle No. Himmler himself said to his SS-Generals: Machen Sie nun nicht den Fehler unsere Freiwilligen Kameraden als Deutsche zweiter Klasse zu sehen, nur weil sie nicht unsere Sprache sprechen. Sie sind, vor allem die, die zu uns gekommen sind, die wertvollsten unseres germanischen Blutes. Wenn wir (die deutschen SS-Generäle) in einem anderen Land geboren worden wären, würden wir auch kein Deutsch sprechen. They where treated eqaul by the authorities, and also by their comrades.
@@TucTonic Yes and Himmer himself was known to be a nordicist who viewed Scandinavians generally of "better blood" than the vast people of Germany(he himself being of Alpine not of Nordic blood)
As the War went on the Germans realised that these soldiers were as good as them on the battlefield and were glad to have them. After the SS Wiking, there were 2 new Nordic SS Divisions created.. then the Belgian legions, They couldn't have been much worse after training. The language barrier most likely the reason.
I think the issue is the Nazis were Socialist, 3:42. TIK literally described the conflict between Nazism and Marxism as a Socialist Civil War, one that is still going on today at an Intellectual level as most Socialist refuse to consider the Nazis Socialist because they don't match their idea of what Socialism is. Many pro Socialist were not Marxist and Anti Communist. Even the Fascist were Socialist yet also Anti Marxist. The German Social Democrats were anti Marxist/Communist despite also being Socialist at the time as well just as many Social Democratic movements eventually becoming Fascist as well. Issue being a lot of Socialist wouldn't mind fighting with the Germans if it meant getting rid of Marxism/Communism even if their idea of Socialism was different than the Nazis.
I think i´ve read somewhere that while discipline in the waffen- SS was very hard, there was to some degree a bigger sense of fellowship between officers and men compared to the wehrmacht since the waffen-SS was not rooted in the prussian tradition with officers from the upper classes. Hitler was suspicious against the "old garde" of army officers after germanys defeat in WW1 so he didn´t want that tradition in the SS.
Hey congrats with the subscribers i have a question was there dienstplicht in the war? ( i dont know the english word) i heard stories of a uncle of my granddad who run away when they came to take him for the army and hided for some years he was still young
Thanks! As for your question. There was draft before the German invasion of the Netherlands. And when the Germans took over there was Arbeitseinsatz where Dutch males were called up for work. Dutch were never forcefully recruited in the German ranks.
Sounds that other nationalities had same experience that of us Finns. In most of Finnish SS volunteers diaryes and other sources, most germans especially NCO's were almost openly hostile against "lower" racial recruits, even like the other western "allies" of germany we were not too low in german racial spectrum. Bad treatment also led to a lot of conflicts with germans and problems with drinking were common. Most noticable example is Lauri Törni, he was one of finnish officers part of the volunteer formation, that were informed that there is not available spots for officers and was shipped home in summer 41 with few other officers. But offrecord one of biggest reason was him drinking and causing trouble, in many occations while defending the "honor" of his fellow enlisted countrymen while drunk. Germans viewed finns as exelent soldiers what came to combat capabilityes even during training, as finns scored better in marksmanship than average german troops. But lack of dicipline and unwillinges to adapt to german customs was seen as great drawback. Like with Dutch volunteers, there was real feat within germans, that on the front they would be killed by their own men. There is even cases in wich some finns "openly" said so. But in their own language so Germans would not understand. Well they kind of guessed, but could not prove it, due no one willing testify against their fellow men. But as it was with Dutch, finally on the front both parties started finally to respect one another and deep bond between soldiers were formed as one usually does during combat. Especially divisiol commander Felix Steiner of 5.SS Wiking wich finns were part of took liking to finns and avcording to records statet, that if he only had a division of such men instead of a battailion, what could he achieve. He also visited finnish freiwilligen in finland after the war and vise versa.
@@HistoryHustle It indeed is. There is unfortunately not too much about Finnisches Freiwillige Battalion in english. And orginally not in finnish neither. But during past 15 years many did write memorial books of those times in their "old days" like Aarne Kähärä, who was one of the youngest volunteer. He falsified his age and joined was 16year old. He unfortunately died last week. I also editet some additional info to my comment, wich i did write in a hurry orginally. The whole SS volunteer battalion is bit sensitive topic currently in Finland, due it had been potrayed as heroic endevour and that finns never commited warcrimes during their stay in SS. But now when Last veterans are dying their families have given their diaryes to historians in some there is suggestion of such things. So our goverment actually decided to do research of it. Result was that it is likely that some finns between 10-30 may have commited warcrimes, but there is lack of evidence, due most being in form that in a diary man said that his friend told him that his friends did this and that. If you ever want assistance in regarding Finnish Waffen SS volunteers I would be happy to help, as many.
from another teacher: only Catholics, inc. Germans, were mistreated by the SS drill instructors, who were criticised even by Skorzeny (child of ethnic Germans). I cannot think of a more nazi-fascist group than the ex Benelux&German& later pro-nazi Italian & French one. Dutch people had mein kampf at home. Germanic non-fully SS legions could be more political than the SS-Dutchmen. Dutch common criminals were mainly in the future Landstorm. No difference between ethnic Germans, Reich Germans & ex Benelux Germanics whatsoever. Van Roekel was not there, my Vets did. Cernay was never a disciplinary camp. Only Scandinavians were the "US anticommunist repubblican" sort (faked fascists). "Hitler fascist" countries really included the Netherlands
"Van Roekel was not there". Many historians weren't there. Doesn't mean they can't do proper research. I cannot make much sense of your comment to be honest.
@@HistoryHustle he seems to underline issues of no meaning nearly faked: every Dutchman even with partial Asian root , French, Belgian, Italian had a colonial cosmopolitan view in respect of the German, and they were white suprematists, maybe "eurasians" colonial-minded & fascists.
I think the discipline in the Waffen SS was brutal and inhumane by any standard, much more so than by comparison the regular German army. Former German members of the Waffen SS reported similar experiences, for instance Jürgen Girgensohn who became a social-democrat politician after the war.
The germans expected the Dutch to speak german? Nothing has changed there then...I've never heard a german tourist in holland even attempt to speak dutch ...and even though I'm a brit and I've lived in the Netherlands I did at least make an effort to learn dutch
You meantioned that political classes likely decreased as the war went on, I remember military history visualized mentioning in a video an article he saw at the german military archives that showed that political training became more and more of the curriculum. I wanna say like 40% of time was spent on political indoctrination by 45.
I had a German girlfriend and I would say from that experience they are precise, and from what she says the men are quite intolerant of mistake and often minor stuff us British would think nothing of they would feel they had failed etc
@@rickybergsma9910 ik daag je uit om wakker te blijven bij zijn lessen. Het kon hem niet eens wat schelen dat er constant mensen de les verstoorden of lagen te slapen, dat maakte het nogal uitdagend. Het jaar daarna met een andere leraar ging het ineens een stuk beter, misschien omdat hij wel de contrle kon houden en daadwerkelijk les gaf ipv het boek opdreunen.
As a person with dutch ancestry I have to try and put myself in there shoes, Live under an occupation with the prospect of being drafted into forced labour or join the Waffen SS, definetely a tough question to ponder
@#3_Vacuum_Salesman_of_Marrakesh Nahh not all, adventurousness and a high testosteronlevel can also drive a young men into such troubles, money is another reason (the SS payed well) or simply to avoid imprisonment, ahh and dont forget propaganda it works sometimes "defend your beautyful home/country and Familys against against the barbaric communists". Look at the "Legion etranger" why so many germans joined their former foe Army after WW2, do you really believe all the volunteers love France its democratic system or the french colonialambitions.
I think it's interesting that seemingly a sizeable proportion of the volunteers regretted joining up and did not accept the training regime. Given that the alternative for fit and able men might have been being transported to Germany to work as forced labour, it seems that they might have been in a better situation (well at least until they were sent to the Eastern Front).Wouldn't this have figured in their thinking? Given that it was nearly 80 years ago and times were tougher, some of them don't seem very different from the current crop of dropkicks who baulk at anything that demands a bit of effort and persistence.
The training regime was physically taxing, from my limited information about it. Lots of long route marches etc. They would have had to be young and fit to be inducted in the first place but even so it seems to have taken its toll.
If you want a more positive view of the Dutch volunteers here is an interview with a proud veteran: th-cam.com/video/Cvfpe8a8R_U/w-d-xo.html It is interesting seeing his version of events 😎
Still a bit of a touchy subject i would have thought but one that you have explained well I can see how and why people thought that Communism was the Greatest threat and The SS was the first European Army maybe thats why a second European Army Nowadays hasnt really got off the ground nowadays people have long memories!!
Think comparing the SS to a current European army goes a little bit too far. Yet, it is interesting that nationality played a role back then as it does now.
I understand why they drunk more and more as they went further east, fall and winter east of Germany\Poland is very depressing. Now kids in Poland might not be as wealthy as in the Netherlands, but they're no longer poor and living under occupation, so we as European went into the right direction.
Am looking forward to your view on this matter, History Hustle. Today we live in a world with a zillion terabyte of information at our fingertips. That does not prove to be a guarantee for a well informed democracy. It is easy for a group of people to be wrong and not know it. Same now and even easier 100 years ago, when the impact of the first afordable mass produced radios made many family homes ardent doctrine believers. (compare thát to the effect of social media and the power of media-outlets owned by the very rich, some things never change) Although a minority, many volunteers were persuaded and joined. I hope you also shed light on how their worldview was in the 30s when they grew up. The 30s must have given a constant stream of good news coming from Germany as the regime lifted the working class out of poverty and provided jobs. Sooner or later, everybody got to know the hidden agenda of that evil regime but then it was to late. The frog in the hot water metaphore, you know.
These times were indeed different. Have you seen the first two videos on the topic? Right here: Dutch Waffen-SS PART I: th-cam.com/video/bQlF0ia-ABA/w-d-xo.html Dutch Waffen-SS PART II: th-cam.com/video/MXLjRwGGx4U/w-d-xo.html
I wish you would just do this in Dutch. I get that you're targeting a broader audience, but your English is just putting me off. But who knows, I guess it will continue to get better.
If there were those 3 " layers" or somehow casts between motherland Germans and neighboard , I do wonder what Himmler &C thought about the Italian , French or Spanish volunters in Their troops . The relations between official German and Italian Army It Is really well known , in some cases They fought vs eachother also before the Italian Armistice , but I am curious to know what They were thinking about the Italian or any latin in Their SS divisions .
It's crazy to see the dates for those videos and to know the most insane battles are currently raging and they desperately looking to fool people with the propaganda making it seem like it'll be swell instead of absolutely misery.
Pity you don't cover the small number of Finnish soldiers who stood up to the Soviet Union lasted longer than the Dutch,poles, French, Belgians,and the rest of the failed forces of Europe against the Nazi war machine
No way i would fight for a country that fought my Army and occupied my home region ( didnt wrote my country because i give a shit for countrys/states). But i know many did, my Father (algerian born) and some of his Brothers were conscripted into the French /colonial) Army. when i was a little Boy my Mother told me that our neighbour next door to us Herr van der Neu... (i dont write the full name because of Name and shame ;)) was a Dutch SS Men during the war he had the german citizenship since end of WW2, after WW he stayed in germany, had a good clean and well payed job in a furniture Comp. and was married with a german women and 2 Kids, i played every day with his Daughter she was 3 or 4 years older then i. he was a kind person a family Man, my Mother liked that he never went out to drink like my dad or other men, he was calm and a bit sad person he surly missed his family back in the nederlande because he couldnt visit them after WW2 . I remember in late 60s or early 70s was the first time after WW2 that he went back to NL to visit his family after all the years since WW2.
Several Germans once told me (in German) that Dutch is simply "German spoken with a throat disease"......of course the Bavarians say that about the North Germans....LOL!!
As an outsider who's worked in both countries, I have to say there's not much in common with Dutch and German folk. Even with the Germanic bloodline and geographical approximation, they just aren't very compatible. I admire both people, and it's their distinctions that I appreciate. No small wonder these Germanic Waffen SS formations had mixed results, but they all died together equally on the slaughterhouse that was the Ostfront.
Interesting you mention this. I once had a user who claimed the exact opposite. I do believe Dutch and Germans have stuff in common, but there are many differences also.
Are you dum we have so much in common you will never realize because your not dutch or german and I ak from the netherlands and germany🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Dutch Waffen-SS PART I: th-cam.com/video/bQlF0ia-ABA/w-d-xo.html
Dutch Waffen-SS PART II: th-cam.com/video/MXLjRwGGx4U/w-d-xo.html
@@humanipulationnation Not anytime soon, sorry.
Hey Hustler do you play online games like Post Scriptum or Beyond The Wire?
@@CalebNorthNorman no
Lots of interesting personal details in this video
Stop that, because of this YT deletes it.
I'm finding this series very interesting...
As an American who had the great fortune to be stationed in the Netherlands in the U.S. Forces (Soesterberg AB 1989-1993), and who's been happily married to a lovely Dutch woman for going on 29 years, I find this topic very interesting.
Even more so when I was introduced to my wife's maternal grandparents, they spoke amazing English and I immediately noticed his WWII memorabilia, books and other related materials and we bonded over our love of history. He broke out his photos, shared his experience during the war, he was actually in the Dutch Cavalry in the 30's, was reactivated prior to the German Invasion and spoke of his war years working in a German arms factory...
You can imagine the plot twist as we left that initial meeting, I was all smiles from the exciting conversation, when my wife (still girlfriend at the time) had to tell me the dark side of the story...how her grandfather had actually been a member of the NSB, and well, how things didn't go so well for him after the war....
Quit in contrast to her fathers family where family members had died during the last winter of occupation....anyway, I could go on for ever, but needless to say, the history is both fascinating, and at times painful....
Keep up the great work!
Very interesting, thank you for sharing this.
You were stationed next to my former hometown of Amersfoort.
Still can remember US soldiers in town.
My grandfather served as an aircraft mechanic in Soesterberg. Mostly working on the Fokker planes. I'm tempted to tell his name (his last name is different than mine) but I won't.
Thank you for your service. Your reassuring presence was more than welcome in these tense cold war years.
I hope you and your wife are doing well to this day.
@@gauloiseguy I loved my time there and still have dear friends (in addition to family) I remember going on vacation within the Netherlands with some friends in the Dutch AF and meeting a very nice man who was from Belgium, he was happy to meet me and had a T-shirt that said to the effect of "I'd rather have a missile in my garden (referring to the fact that the U.S. had medium range weapons stationed there at the time) than a Russian in my kitchen". There was great Esprit De Corps between the NATO forces at that time.
I can't wait for the video where you will cover their fighting success because you can't deny that many of them such as men of battalion de Ruyter, Gerardus Mooyman or Derk Elsko Bruins showed outstanding bravery for which they were awarded with Knight's Crosses. Also Himmler himself said and predicted that Dutchmen are going to be the first Germanic volunteers awarded with them which turned out right.
Eh.. yeah.. the finest of the Dutch nation... 🤔
@@HistoryHustle They were the finest of The Netherlands. Atleast they fought against Bolsjevism. Unlike many others....
@@illHumiliation Yeah, fight some big evil, on the side of another big evil. What is the difference beetween bolsheviks and nazis? They were equally horrible. What are you talking about?
Interesting topic, especially the fact that the division was named "Wiking" division. Merry Christmas to you and all viewers of history Hustle.
Many thank Jan, as always. Happy holidays!
@@humanipulationnation I hope that you're not some kind of neo-nazi, but I respect your disrespect of antifa.
@@humanipulationnation That is very true, yet it really is true that antifa act more like Nazis than anyone that they oppose!
Ohhhh sweet it’s my early Christmas present!! Thanks my friend!!
Stay safe and enjoy your holidays!!
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GoedenavondHistory Hustle,Ik hoorde bij 3.12 dat je Nederlands spreekt.Mijn engels is behoorlijk,maar in het Nederlands makkelijker,minder spelfouten sorry.Ik wil je ongelooflijk veel danken voor dit filmpje,waar ik zojuist mijn vader herkende.Foto bij 7.05,die jonge jongen van toen 16.Ongelooflijk veel dank daarvoor.Was al zolang er na op zoek,Mijn vader is in 1993 overleden op 66 jarige leeftijd aan longkanker,veels te jong,En vandaag 27 jaar geleden was hij samen nog met mijn moeder bij ons 2e kerstdag.Zijn geboorte jaar was 7 feb 1927 behoorlijk toevallig allemaal.Het is allemaal wat te lang om nu te vertellen,maar heb vele verhalen aangehoord over het oostfront,was een hel zei mijn vader.Ik kan je niet genoeg bedanken voor de duidelijke foto van mijn pa.Ik ga denk ik in de toekomst nog wel eens wat dieper op de zaak in,om het verhaal van mijn vader wat completer te maken.gr Theo.
Dag Theo, dat is jouw vader op 7:05 ? Ongelooflijk! Dank voor het berichten. U kunt mij altijd e-mailen. Adres staat in iedere video-omschrijving onder de video. Dank voor het bericht nogmaals.
@@HistoryHustle Nog vele malen dank,zonder u had ik dit nooit kunnen waarnemen,ik ben erg blij met deze foto en dit filmpje.Ik ga zeker u nog binnenkort een keer mailen.gr Theo.
This is awesome I’m reading that book you recommended!! Wiking. Omg I could not put it down last night!! Ohhh my thank you sir!!
I’m super glad you got 50 thousand subs!!
Great job!!
Many thanks, Mike! :)
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Wiking by Henk Kistemaker
Eyewitness. My only complaint it’s way to short!!
Hallo Stefan, mooi hoe je het onderwerp op deze manier onder de aandacht brengt. En leuk om te zien hoeveel interesse er is van een groot (internationaal) publiek. Ik ben zeer benieuwd naar het volgende deel! Fijne feestdagen. Hartelijke groet, Evertjan van Roekel
Hoi Evertjan, leuk om van je te horen! Je hebt een geweldig boek geschreven wat van groot nut is voor de video's. Onlangs gebruikte ik fragmenten uit je boek in de geschiedenisles. Leerlingen vonden dit erg interessant. Bedankt voor je reactie.
Ready for action... thanks for your channel. You are doing a great job. Greetings from Spain.
Gracias!
There was a misconception back them when I was learning spanish (yes, we speak portuguese in Brasil), and my Cuban teacher heard about the German settlers in my town (Ivoti), described as colonists. "No es una colonia, es un asentamiento." Gracias!
To me this was all unseen footage, great video.
Merry Christmas!
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Dutch SS volunteers? Total news to me. Interesting.
How does this channel only have 75k subs?
Feel free to share! By the way, here you can find the full playlist:
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Bedankt voor de uitleg. Fijne dagen gewenst.
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Reichkommisariat of Holland,interesting topic!
Wednesday it'll be out.
Top Stefan, each time better and more confident , can’t wait for last episode
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I am deeply impressed by you passion for History. Dank je! Greetings from Brasil!
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A splendid serie Stefan!
Thank you!
EXCELLENT video! VERY INFORMATIVE!
Thanks!
Great topic brother. You cover the hidden things I'm always wondering about.
Thanks, Keith! Great to hear.
Always interestet in the training. It's very rarely talken about
Indeed, that's why I thought this should be covered. Glad you found it interesting, thanks for your reply.
Vey Nice Stephan, doing a great job tackling those difficult topics most historians try to avoid.
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Wouldn't it be easier to combine some more this information?
So far, I am enjoying HISTORY HUSTLE.
Here's the playlist:
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The IV SS Panzer Korp was mainly 2 SS Divisions Totenkopf & Wiking under old Wiking Commander Herbert Otto Gille was named as the most combat effective of all SS units right up to the end of the war. This was a statement by a number of Germans. Even German General Hermann Balck, who disliked the Wiking SS at first until he seen their tenacity right up to the end of the fighting on the Eastern front. IV SS Panzer Korp took part in Hitlers last offensive in Hungary where they made 3 relief attempts on Budapest. Gille was one of only a handful of SS men who received the Knights cross with oakleaves, swords and diamonds.The Highest award of all in German army.
Interesting, thanks for sharing.
Mag ik je alvast hele fijne kerstdagen toewensen
Zeker, jij ook Johnno!
This video isn’t available to watch. But I know that it’s gonna be a good one!
Wednesday it will be available.
this series is really good. and a great eye opener. thank you so much
Thanks 👍
Now that's an interesting kind of european collaboration
Yes, I agree. There are already two episodes about this. Have you seen them?
Dutch Waffen-SS PART I: th-cam.com/video/bQlF0ia-ABA/w-d-xo.html
Dutch Waffen-SS PART II: th-cam.com/video/MXLjRwGGx4U/w-d-xo.html
An unsuccessful one, I'm glad to say.
@@HistoryHustle Yes l I have. I wish your channel all the best!
@@humanipulationnation Any European against any European is.
@@humanipulationnation Did you eat a lot of paint chips at a kid?
Great presentation, super informative, thank you.
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I'm really enjoying this series Stefan. While it is not something I'm proud of, my great grandfather was in the Wiking division and survived the war. It's interesting to find out what he may have done during his time there.
Interesting, thanks for sharing. What do you know of his experiences?
@@HistoryHustle because for my oma en opa it's a very controversial topic, I know very little. All I know is that he was from Delft, was in the Wiking division and served on the eastern front. I hope one day I can find out more.
@@obamabin-laden2420 The eastern front is something a lot of old veterans don't want to talk about, I hope your grandfather will find peace of mind in the end
Thanks for sharing
Hele gave video! Jammer dat die al weer voorbij is
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Always looking forward to your videos....merry Christmas from NW Michigan
Best wishes!
Its nice to know that even the Dutch had that weird old timey accent in videos.
Yes, that was the way film was narrated.
Lol pretty much off topic but yea we had that lol
Very remarkable comments (the SS man in Warsaw) which I think show the Idealism that some of these men had. Not unthinking thugs but mislead young men looking to be part of something they thought would bring about a better world. Different times. Excellent video as allways.
Thanks, Olz!
Interesting and very good research. Merry Christmas and a happy New Year
Thanks Jeroen, best wishes!
Excellent series, waiting for the next installment,. Thanks
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@@HistoryHustle Merry Christmas
Leerzame video weer! Tof ook om die oude beelden te zien!
Precies, rechtenvrij via openbeelden.nl
Prachtig materiaal, naja, 'prachtig' om 't maar eve zo uit te drukken. Dank!
My father was a Dutch-American born in a New Jersey town which was full of Dutch immigrants, and people of Dutch ancestry. My grandfather, Marinus, also born in NJ, was a US Army soldier in 1917 who fought in France. My dad was a US Army Air Corps volunteer in 1940, a year and a half before Pearl Harbor, who served during WWII and Korea. The family back in Holland had served in the Netherlands army with distinction dating back to the Spanish Siege of Haarlem in 1572, serving as Engineer officers in every generation. One was a Major General during the Napoleonic Wars and after, marrying the sister of Johan Rudolf Thorbecke (she was my great-great-great grandmother).
It was thus incredibly surprising to me to discover that some distant cousins served in SS Westland--my sister showed me their service history. Apparently they had both been in the KNIL, but were recruited by the SS . They served in Ukraine, one dying of injuries in a hospital near Odesa, the other unknown. I don't know much more about the brothers aside from that (the relatives in the Netherlands don't have much to say about them, for obvious reasons). The point is that it happens even in good families that they joined (and died) in the SS.
I am from Ireland a number of Flemish and Dutch collaborators took refuge here after World War 2.
Didn't know this, interesting.
You will find information on google. Albert folens etc
See video Irelands nazis on TH-cam
Very nice video for one more time great job. Could you do a video about British volunteers and English fascism in ww2 generally?
Soon!
Merry Christmas, Stefan!
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One of the German Wiking officers later stated "we basicly were the first European Army, if the EU wants to know how to organise the next just ask us how"
I see. Most men of Wiking were German though. More on this in a few weeks.
Two fish are sitting in a tank, one looks over to the other and says 'Hey, you know how to drive this thing?'
Lol
Daft, but brilliant😂😂
Love your content.
Cheers.
Thank you!
@@HistoryHustle did any of the volunteer SS members ever wear the honor chevron, or was that only for actual germans?
Good question. Can't tell yet.
Awesome video i was really waiting for a video like this, could you maybe make a video about the uniforms insignia and equipment of the volunteers?
Thanks and sure something for the future.
Training was generally covered but I’m curious to know how exactly they trained compared to today’s infantry schools.
Can't tell.
Dankie vir die geskiedenis les jou ondersteuner in Suid Afrika.
Thanks for your reply.
Top notch as usual.
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I am watching your videos. The way you explain is perfect as your animations. Keep it up. But what about making videos on generals🤔
Thanks for your reply. Individual generals are of lesser interest of mine.
Hard to believe the Dutch could be masculine enough to defend their own self interests let alone Europe. Crazy times back in those days. Things are better now.... Right?
For sure 👍
Dutch resistance were absolute Chads with gigantic pairs of kugels
I see.
Great content, as always! All the best mate 👍
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Oooh man , i know i am putting this in my to do list
Good :)
Interesting, I did wonder how the SS treated their Germanic volunteers.
They were treated as lesser.
History Hustle
No. Himmler himself said to his SS-Generals:
Machen Sie nun nicht den Fehler unsere Freiwilligen Kameraden als Deutsche zweiter Klasse zu sehen, nur weil sie nicht unsere Sprache sprechen. Sie sind, vor allem die, die zu uns gekommen sind, die wertvollsten unseres germanischen Blutes. Wenn wir (die deutschen SS-Generäle) in einem anderen Land geboren worden wären, würden wir auch kein Deutsch sprechen.
They where treated eqaul by the authorities, and also by their comrades.
@@TucTonic if you completely watched the video you see that Himmlers orders were there, but they weren't followed.
@@TucTonic Yes and Himmer himself was known to be a nordicist who viewed Scandinavians generally of "better blood" than the vast people of Germany(he himself being of Alpine not of Nordic blood)
As the War went on the Germans realised that these soldiers were as good as them on the battlefield and were glad to have them. After the SS Wiking, there were 2 new Nordic SS Divisions created.. then the Belgian legions, They couldn't have been much worse after training. The language barrier most likely the reason.
I think the issue is the Nazis were Socialist, 3:42. TIK literally described the conflict between Nazism and Marxism as a Socialist Civil War, one that is still going on today at an Intellectual level as most Socialist refuse to consider the Nazis Socialist because they don't match their idea of what Socialism is. Many pro Socialist were not Marxist and Anti Communist. Even the Fascist were Socialist yet also Anti Marxist. The German Social Democrats were anti Marxist/Communist despite also being Socialist at the time as well just as many Social Democratic movements eventually becoming Fascist as well. Issue being a lot of Socialist wouldn't mind fighting with the Germans if it meant getting rid of Marxism/Communism even if their idea of Socialism was different than the Nazis.
Interesting topic. I refer to it in my recent Q&A.
I think i´ve read somewhere that while discipline in the waffen- SS was very hard, there was to some degree a bigger sense of fellowship between officers and men compared to the wehrmacht since the waffen-SS was not rooted in the prussian tradition with officers from the upper classes. Hitler was suspicious against the "old garde" of army officers after germanys defeat in WW1 so he didn´t want that tradition in the SS.
Thanks for sharing your insights.
5:49 - one of those marching in front has a bandage on his face. Shaving cut?
Perhaps..
Is there part four?
There will be. Also a part 5, 6 and 7. Patience 🙂
Hey congrats with the subscribers i have a question was there dienstplicht in the war? ( i dont know the english word) i heard stories of a uncle of my granddad who run away when they came to take him for the army and hided for some years he was still young
Thanks!
As for your question. There was draft before the German invasion of the Netherlands. And when the Germans took over there was Arbeitseinsatz where Dutch males were called up for work. Dutch were never forcefully recruited in the German ranks.
@@HistoryHustle oke thanks for the response maybe some soldiers came to his house that i mixed up the story
Fijne jaarwisseling
Sounds that other nationalities had same experience that of us Finns. In most of Finnish SS volunteers diaryes and other sources, most germans especially NCO's were almost openly hostile against "lower" racial recruits, even like the other western "allies" of germany we were not too low in german racial spectrum.
Bad treatment also led to a lot of conflicts with germans and problems with drinking were common. Most noticable example is Lauri Törni, he was one of finnish officers part of the volunteer formation, that were informed that there is not available spots for officers and was shipped home in summer 41 with few other officers. But offrecord one of biggest reason was him drinking and causing trouble, in many occations while defending the "honor" of his fellow enlisted countrymen while drunk.
Germans viewed finns as exelent soldiers what came to combat capabilityes even during training, as finns scored better in marksmanship than average german troops. But lack of dicipline and unwillinges to adapt to german customs was seen as great drawback.
Like with Dutch volunteers, there was real feat within germans, that on the front they would be killed by their own men. There is even cases in wich some finns "openly" said so. But in their own language so Germans would not understand. Well they kind of guessed, but could not prove it, due no one willing testify against their fellow men.
But as it was with Dutch, finally on the front both parties started finally to respect one another and deep bond between soldiers were formed as one usually does during combat. Especially divisiol commander Felix Steiner of 5.SS Wiking wich finns were part of took liking to finns and avcording to records statet, that if he only had a division of such men instead of a battailion, what could he achieve. He also visited finnish freiwilligen in finland after the war and vise versa.
Interesting, thanks for sharing! Sure a topic for the future.
@@HistoryHustle It indeed is. There is unfortunately not too much about Finnisches Freiwillige Battalion in english. And orginally not in finnish neither. But during past 15 years many did write memorial books of those times in their "old days" like Aarne Kähärä, who was one of the youngest volunteer. He falsified his age and joined was 16year old. He unfortunately died last week.
I also editet some additional info to my comment, wich i did write in a hurry orginally.
The whole SS volunteer battalion is bit sensitive topic currently in Finland, due it had been potrayed as heroic endevour and that finns never commited warcrimes during their stay in SS. But now when Last veterans are dying their families have given their diaryes to historians in some there is suggestion of such things. So our goverment actually decided to do research of it. Result was that it is likely that some finns between 10-30 may have commited warcrimes, but there is lack of evidence, due most being in form that in a diary man said that his friend told him that his friends did this and that.
If you ever want assistance in regarding Finnish Waffen SS volunteers I would be happy to help, as many.
from another teacher: only Catholics, inc. Germans, were mistreated by the SS drill instructors, who were criticised even by Skorzeny (child of ethnic Germans). I cannot think of a more nazi-fascist group than the ex Benelux&German& later pro-nazi Italian & French one. Dutch people had mein kampf at home. Germanic non-fully SS legions could be more political than the SS-Dutchmen. Dutch common criminals were mainly in the future Landstorm. No difference between ethnic Germans, Reich Germans & ex Benelux Germanics whatsoever. Van Roekel was not there, my Vets did. Cernay was never a disciplinary camp. Only Scandinavians were the "US anticommunist repubblican" sort (faked fascists). "Hitler fascist" countries really included the Netherlands
"Van Roekel was not there". Many historians weren't there. Doesn't mean they can't do proper research. I cannot make much sense of your comment to be honest.
@@HistoryHustle he seems to underline issues of no meaning nearly faked: every Dutchman even with partial Asian root , French, Belgian, Italian had a colonial cosmopolitan view in respect of the German, and they were white suprematists, maybe "eurasians" colonial-minded & fascists.
I think the discipline in the Waffen SS was brutal and inhumane by any standard, much more so than by comparison the regular German army. Former German members of the Waffen SS reported similar experiences, for instance Jürgen Girgensohn who became a social-democrat politician after the war.
Interesting, thanks for sharing.
Congrats Vestland in Norway. Nice new name..
New name? History Hustle has been in use since day 1.
Do you think k Holland will open in January.?mery Christmas
I'm afraid not...
The earliest concept of NATO! Under German supervision!
Biggest difference: the "first" NATO was NOT an institution to prevent war, instead, it caused it. That's why the comparison doesn't make much sense.
@@HistoryHustle NATO has never been an institution to prevent war.....indeed it's doing the opposite
And how much has changed - in some foreign posted operations with mixed leaders and cultures?
Much has changed.
The germans expected the Dutch to speak german?
Nothing has changed there then...I've never heard a german tourist in holland even attempt to speak dutch ...and even though I'm a brit and I've lived in the Netherlands I did at least make an effort to learn dutch
I see. To be honest I never meet much foreigners trying to speak Dutch.
@@HistoryHustle I didn't have a choice mate ...I lodged with a couple who couldn't speak much English.
You meantioned that political classes likely decreased as the war went on, I remember military history visualized mentioning in a video an article he saw at the german military archives that showed that political training became more and more of the curriculum. I wanna say like 40% of time was spent on political indoctrination by 45.
Perhaps this was for the Germans themselves.
@@HistoryHustle I believe it was, so who knows how much that applied to the volunteer units.
There was an interview with a Dutch volunteer who joined in 1941 and he said there was very little political training.
I had a German girlfriend and I would say from that experience they are precise, and from what she says the men are quite intolerant of mistake and often minor stuff us British would think nothing of they would feel they had failed etc
I see, can't tell myself.
Als jij geschiedenisles gaf, had ik veel beter opgelet. Wij hadden een ouwe slaapzak als leraar, mijn gemiddelde cijfer was een 3.
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Dan heeft het echt niet alleen aan de leraar gelegen ;p
@@rickybergsma9910 ik daag je uit om wakker te blijven bij zijn lessen. Het kon hem niet eens wat schelen dat er constant mensen de les verstoorden of lagen te slapen, dat maakte het nogal uitdagend. Het jaar daarna met een andere leraar ging het ineens een stuk beter, misschien omdat hij wel de contrle kon houden en daadwerkelijk les gaf ipv het boek opdreunen.
Maybe something about NSB and Arthur Seyss Inquart
Sure something for the future. I do tlk about them in this video:
th-cam.com/video/MXLjRwGGx4U/w-d-xo.html
I like that jacket you are wearing
Thanks.
As a person with dutch ancestry I have to try and put myself in there shoes, Live under an occupation with the prospect of being drafted into forced labour or join the Waffen SS, definetely a tough question to ponder
Thanks for your reply.
As a person that has studied the second world war most of my life and thought I knew a few things I found your video informative, keep em coming
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Nahh not all, adventurousness and a high testosteronlevel can also drive a young men into such troubles, money is another reason (the SS payed well) or simply to avoid imprisonment, ahh and dont forget propaganda it works sometimes "defend your beautyful home/country and Familys against against the barbaric communists".
Look at the "Legion etranger" why so many germans joined their former foe Army after WW2, do you really believe all the volunteers love France its democratic system or the french colonialambitions.
Are you in the NSV? What's your view on it?
That is?
@@HistoryHustle oh sorry, I confused it, it's a Belgium student club organization
I'm Dutch.
@@HistoryHustle yes, I thought it's a Dutch organization. Though there seem to be Dutch fraternities as well.
These are less nationalistic. I was never a part of these either.
My favorite topic
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I think it's interesting that seemingly a sizeable proportion of the volunteers regretted joining up and did not accept the training regime. Given that the alternative for fit and able men might have been being transported to Germany to work as forced labour, it seems that they might have been in a better situation (well at least until they were sent to the Eastern Front).Wouldn't this have figured in their thinking?
Given that it was nearly 80 years ago and times were tougher, some of them don't seem very different from the current crop of dropkicks who baulk at anything that demands a bit of effort and persistence.
The training regime was physically taxing, from my limited information about it. Lots of long route marches etc. They would have had to be young and fit to be inducted in the first place but even so it seems to have taken its toll.
Thanks for replying, Steve.
If you want a more positive view of the Dutch volunteers here is an interview with a proud veteran: th-cam.com/video/Cvfpe8a8R_U/w-d-xo.html
It is interesting seeing his version of events 😎
I see.
Fijne Kerst Stefan
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Still a bit of a touchy subject i would have thought but one that you have explained well I can see how and why people thought that Communism was the Greatest threat and The SS was the first European Army maybe thats why a second European Army Nowadays hasnt really got off the ground nowadays people have long memories!!
Think comparing the SS to a current European army goes a little bit too far. Yet, it is interesting that nationality played a role back then as it does now.
I understand why they drunk more and more as they went further east, fall and winter east of Germany\Poland is very depressing. Now kids in Poland might not be as wealthy as in the Netherlands, but they're no longer poor and living under occupation, so we as European went into the right direction.
That's what I thought too. Sure not the whole world population is well of, but in Poland most people are proper clothed, fed and housed as of today.
a united germania would easily rule the world
I see.
I lulz the last guy wake up on 0:06
Yeah.
Am looking forward to your view on this matter, History Hustle. Today we live in a world with a zillion terabyte of information at our fingertips. That does not prove to be a guarantee for a well informed democracy. It is easy for a group of people to be wrong and not know it. Same now and even easier 100 years ago, when the impact of the first afordable mass produced radios made many family homes ardent doctrine believers. (compare thát to the effect of social media and the power of media-outlets owned by the very rich, some things never change) Although a minority, many volunteers were persuaded and joined. I hope you also shed light on how their worldview was in the 30s when they grew up. The 30s must have given a constant stream of good news coming from Germany as the regime lifted the working class out of poverty and provided jobs. Sooner or later, everybody got to know the hidden agenda of that evil regime but then it was to late. The frog in the hot water metaphore, you know.
These times were indeed different. Have you seen the first two videos on the topic? Right here:
Dutch Waffen-SS PART I: th-cam.com/video/bQlF0ia-ABA/w-d-xo.html
Dutch Waffen-SS PART II: th-cam.com/video/MXLjRwGGx4U/w-d-xo.html
@@HistoryHustle Thanks. Have watched them now.
I wish you would just do this in Dutch. I get that you're targeting a broader audience, but your English is just putting me off. But who knows, I guess it will continue to get better.
I do have a Dutch channel also. But less content. Go take a look at History Hustle Nederlands.
@@HistoryHustle Ah thanks! I will definitely watch that. Sorry for the harsh critics, I really hope you grow on this channel as well.
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Video about SS Italia (Italy)
Ehm, what about that?
@@HistoryHustle why did create
Klinkt heerlijk
Dank dat je het waardeert.
Presumably the language used in training and commands was German. Was this actually the case?
Yes.
If there were those 3 " layers" or somehow casts between motherland Germans and neighboard , I do wonder what Himmler &C thought about the Italian , French or Spanish volunters in Their troops . The relations between official German and Italian Army It Is really well known , in some cases They fought vs eachother also before the Italian Armistice , but I am curious to know what They were thinking about the Italian or any latin in Their SS divisions .
Hitler didn't want for example Russians to join the ranks of the Axis. Yet, other leaders were more pragmatic.
How is it that you have more subscribers than views under any of your videos? Usually it is quite the opposite...
Depends on the video.
They fought against the beast
And acteur as such.
It's crazy to see the dates for those videos and to know the most insane battles are currently raging and they desperately looking to fool people with the propaganda making it seem like it'll be swell instead of absolutely misery.
Indeed. Germany was by 1943 in dire straits and the war went bad for them.
Did they dump their criminals on the Germans?
Some of them ended up there.
Die Holländer sind ausgezeichnete Soldaten. Sie kämpften geschickt und tapfer. Respekt
You mean in May 1940 or under German command on the Eastern Front?
@@HistoryHustle genau unter deutsch. aber nicht nur
Ok
Wenn sie so tapfer sind,warum waren sie dann so schwach.
@@Brian-nc1eb Wer hat dir diesen Unsinn erzählt? Sie waren stärker als ihre Gegner. Aber es gab viel weniger von ihnen.
Stand-up bois, we are losing the war!
That's where it came down to.
Pity you don't cover the small number of Finnish soldiers who stood up to the Soviet Union lasted longer than the Dutch,poles, French, Belgians,and the rest of the failed forces of Europe against the Nazi war machine
First, this video isn't about the Finns.
Second, check my channel:
th-cam.com/video/pvc-TJRaNLY/w-d-xo.html
No way i would fight for a country that fought my Army and occupied my home region ( didnt wrote my country because i give a shit for countrys/states).
But i know many did, my Father (algerian born) and some of his Brothers were conscripted into the French /colonial) Army.
when i was a little Boy my Mother told me that our neighbour next door to us Herr van der Neu... (i dont write the full name because of Name and shame ;)) was a Dutch SS Men during the war he had the german citizenship since end of WW2, after WW he stayed in germany, had a good clean and well payed job in a furniture Comp. and was married with a german women and 2 Kids, i played every day with his Daughter she was 3 or 4 years older then i.
he was a kind person a family Man, my Mother liked that he never went out to drink like my dad or other men, he was calm and a bit sad person he surly missed his family back in the nederlande because he couldnt visit them after WW2 .
I remember in late 60s or early 70s was the first time after WW2 that he went back to NL to visit his family after all the years since WW2.
Thanks for sharing this.
Maar waarom wilde Nederlanders het Duitse leger in? Wat heeft hen gemotiveerd?
U bent docent geschiedenis, dit is een prachtig vak!
Inderdaad, op je vraag geef ik hier antwoord:
th-cam.com/video/bQlF0ia-ABA/w-d-xo.html
11:58 nervous/confused Bavarian noise
I see.
Several Germans once told me (in German) that Dutch is simply "German spoken with a throat disease"......of course the Bavarians say that about the North Germans....LOL!!
lol
Hope those traitors got their punishment!!!
More on that in the future.
Bedankt ,uitstekende samenvatting .In het geval als U het WO 2 van de Ost kant niet gezien hebben:
th-cam.com/video/7ibizxvxgaY/w-d-xo.html.
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As an outsider who's worked in both countries, I have to say there's not much in common with Dutch and German folk. Even with the Germanic bloodline and geographical approximation, they just aren't very compatible. I admire both people, and it's their distinctions that I appreciate. No small wonder these Germanic Waffen SS formations had mixed results, but they all died together equally on the slaughterhouse that was the Ostfront.
Interesting you mention this. I once had a user who claimed the exact opposite. I do believe Dutch and Germans have stuff in common, but there are many differences also.
Are you dum we have so much in common you will never realize because your not dutch or german and I ak from the netherlands and germany🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Total BS, north Germans and Dutch are almost the same, only Bavarians or so are very different.
@@helmortkuper2626i know right that guy is a dum idiot i am half dutch and half german and there isnt any difference
@@HistoryHustle I can often understand Dutch through German (Hochdeutsch) but certainly not always.