LEGENDARY bass line vs MODERN bass line

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  • This week we're looking at two epic bass lines from two different generations. First, we listen to @TheBeatles 1966 classic "Taxman" with @PaulMcCartney on bass. Then, we compare that with the modern groove of @thundercatmusic in his funky performance on his song "Them Changes."
    I'm @Jackconte the CEO of @Patreon and one-half of the bands @ScaryPockets and @Pomplamoose.
    Joining me today are 3 of my best musician friends;
    @lelandsklar6363 the most prolific bassist of all time, he's played with Phil Collins, James Taylor, Carol King and Toto.
    @nicolesrow who plays bass with @panicatthedisco
    @ryanlermanmusic a professional guitarist the other half of Scary Pockets
    Here are our recommendations for our desert island bassists:
    @lelandsklar6363: Ray Brown, James Jameson, Carol Kaye, Jack Bruce, and John Entwistle
    @nicolesrow: @derrickhodge8206
    Here is the music we discussed in the episode;
    The Beatles - Taxman
    • Taxman (Remastered 2009)
    Thundercat - Them Changes
    • Thundercat - 'Them Cha...
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  • @jesseruhland2983
    @jesseruhland2983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1215

    Thundercat is the reason I started playing bass at the age of 35.

    • @FunkadelicPancho
      @FunkadelicPancho 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Thundercat is the reason I bought a 6 string

    • @spurngbab4542
      @spurngbab4542 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      fuck yea man

    • @forastero4ever
      @forastero4ever 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Who's thundercat? A carrtoon? I think they don't even know them at home 😴

    • @FunkadelicPancho
      @FunkadelicPancho 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@forastero4ever he's literally in the thumbnail of the video....

    • @lucaswallo8127
      @lucaswallo8127 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      cool

  • @argentandroid5732
    @argentandroid5732 2 ปีที่แล้ว +838

    Watching Leland and Nicole together is like watching a proud grandpa and the favorite granddaughter he sees himself the most in.

    • @KingCrimson82
      @KingCrimson82 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      No its not and this comment is artificially bloated for lore

  • @tommyrq180
    @tommyrq180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +295

    Everything Leland Sklar says is a flex because he is omnipresent. “I was playing with Toto…” Just a ridiculously amazing career and he’s so genuine.

    • @bricefleckenstein9666
      @bricefleckenstein9666 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Scary, they got a REAL legend with them this time.
      I think Leland has been professionally recorded on more songs than ANY other bass player - including dozens if not a couple HUNDRED #1 hits.

    • @caiocostalouback1866
      @caiocostalouback1866 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah.. he's not arrogant at all. Love it

  • @skybluemarshall
    @skybluemarshall 2 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    The famous joke about Ringo not being the best drummer in the Beatles was never said by John Lennon. It was written by Geoffrey Perkins and said by Philip Pope on a 1981 radio comedy show.
    Ringo is widely viewed by many world famous drummers as a great drummer. Most of the drumming world agrees that although Ringo was not a great technical drummer, he kept good time and more importantly, he had great "feel". This means that he instinctively knew how to drive a song, make it pop and make it sound better. He very often created interesting, memorable drum parts and fills, that fit in perfectly with the music.
    The three other Beatles were all exposed to many great drummers in their careers and they all loved Ringo and heaped many praises on his drumming.

    • @thenewholistic
      @thenewholistic ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Spot on! This is a bass player video, but I always gotta remind people that Ringo is GREAT. If anyone thinks not, I dare you to go back to any of their studio records and try to play along, seriously, try to do what Ringo did. He was a metronome with great style and touch. He was everything that Beatles’ songs needed as a drummer

    • @Bcananzey
      @Bcananzey ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think its just a joke. Everyone with a brain knows Ringo is one on the best drummers when it came to serving the songs the Beatles created. He wasn't flashy he was solid and the right Drummer for that band.

    • @royeap3404
      @royeap3404 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      the fact that he kept good time and had amazing feel makes him a great "technical" drummer. it's just that he wasn't flashy

    • @skybluemarshall
      @skybluemarshall ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Bcananzey Well, there's a lot of brainless people on the internet, because I have read many comments that trashed Ringo for not being as good as other legendary drummers and they almost always seem to quote this joke as though it came directly from Ringo's bandmates and was not intended as a joke.
      The haters often call Ringo an average player, who was the luckiest drummer in the world. That's a very popular slam against Ringo. I've read that one many times. But, nothing could be further from the truth. The other three Beatles actually considered themselves very lucky to have had Ringo in their band.

    • @kkringle3043
      @kkringle3043 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for this comment and follow up. I went immediately to comments to see if someone had corrected the quote. When he said it during the video it made me cringe. Especially how the others all laughed and accepted it. I was really hoping one of them would chime in and correct it in the video.

  • @Yeetus223
    @Yeetus223 2 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    Bass players are some of the coolest, nicest, supportive people I know. I can confirm this because I am a guitar player who has tried many times to learn bass, I’m not that cool.

    • @Smoke3380
      @Smoke3380 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ain't trying then bro

    • @dunxy
      @dunxy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Keep at it, long time guitar player but recently got into bass and ive found it pretty easy for the more basic stuff, often able to play it instantly in real time from tabs, something i can rarely do with guitar. As a bonus as well it has improved my finger and hand strength a lot and also improved my fingerstyle.

    • @skepchica
      @skepchica 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It makes sense tho, right? It's their position.

  • @dalejones4322
    @dalejones4322 2 ปีที่แล้ว +929

    This channel has really went to a whole new level. Dissecting classics and modern funk masterpieces is really interesting. Having the quality of musicians you been getting really adds so much to the conversation. The older guys have seen so much and what they have to say needs to be heard. Thanks guys for fine tuning this to such a great channel.

    • @LiftwithLars
      @LiftwithLars 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Andrew Bueno I believe you... Kind of... But... Those 3 middle fingers at the end of your sentence seem contradicting... 🤔
      I LOVE that this one is way longer than previous videos; keep up the good work! 💪🏼😆

    • @Jose_diazlife
      @Jose_diazlife 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed, this channel is just becoming better and better😇

    • @ashleywhiteman2684
      @ashleywhiteman2684 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aidenjbass c
      Fcbnkmndv

    • @elusivelectron
      @elusivelectron 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Desert island bass players: Vic Wooten, Les Claypool, and Tony Levin.

  • @mrtyreus0
    @mrtyreus0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    The layers of bass on Them Changes makes me recall Stevie Wonder's layers of clavs specifically on Superstition.

    • @bryanchandler3486
      @bryanchandler3486 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Stevie wonder's mid-70s run where he was just making like smash album after smash album just layering tons of funky-ass synthesizer shit was something else for sure

    • @krunchherblock1302
      @krunchherblock1302 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Or better yet, Stevie's HIGHER GROUND......Check it out!

  • @lurcher.4118
    @lurcher.4118 2 ปีที่แล้ว +349

    Man, you can just tell that these guys aren’t only just incredibly knowledgeable about music but are absolutely in love with it too. Couldnt stop smiling the entire video, hyped to see more!

  • @beatmasterbossy
    @beatmasterbossy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I love it when musicians listen to a part and just go "oh my god, that, whatever that is, is amazing"

  • @kennet7837
    @kennet7837 2 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    The Hofner was Paul's signature bass, but he used the Rickenbacker on "Taxman".

    • @ConnorHammond
      @ConnorHammond ปีที่แล้ว +3

      When they said it's the Hofner, I was thinking 'there's no way that aint a Rickenbacker' 🤟

    • @predeterminedmeat5024
      @predeterminedmeat5024 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Rickenbacker basses are just. Amazing

    • @piscesman54
      @piscesman54 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yep. 100% No Hofner would ever sound like that, no matter what you did to it.

    • @paulricketts10
      @paulricketts10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I should looked below to see if someone else spotted that. Now I'll remove my comment!

  • @johnterpack3940
    @johnterpack3940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    I have the utmost respect for Leland after this. His attitude that someone of his stature can still learn something from a rookie is a rare level of both wisdom and humility. And Nicole's lack of an "idol" was refreshing. I've always felt kind of odd because I can't point to someone and say they're the reason I like the bass. I just like the instrument itself. Knowing I'm not the only one is nice.

    • @jas_bataille
      @jas_bataille 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well, I wouldn't call anyone in this room a rookie... Panic! At the disco is a worldwide touring band after all. I don't think Leland was touring with Phil Colins at her age.

    • @annefranceb6495
      @annefranceb6495 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jas_bataille th-cam.com/video/Ghk6CC55r7A/w-d-xo.html

    • @Boethius411
      @Boethius411 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was just the kid who wanted to play in a band and my friends were better at drums and guitar than I was… so I decided I would become a bass badass. 😂it worked until we couldn’t find a singer and I stepped out front. I play a little if everything now but bass is still my favorite instrument.

  • @dfpguitar
    @dfpguitar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    the special thing about McCartney is that the melodic core of the song is always fully apparent in the bass part. You could tell what song it was and enjoy it as pretty well rounded with just the bass on its own, definitely with bass and vocals.
    Most bass parts in other rock and pop is pure background harmonic filler. Even when it gets twiddly it rarely delivers the melody.

  • @dx7tnt
    @dx7tnt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Huge Beatlemaniac here. The magic missing ingredient to get that punch and attack is a Fairchild compressor gluing the drums and the bass together as they're tracking to tape and then mixing.

    • @JordieFilip
      @JordieFilip ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hit the nail on the head here

    • @piscesman54
      @piscesman54 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nailed it like a boss.

  • @EduardoMano
    @EduardoMano 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    "At the end of the day, I'm fanboy"
    Leland Sklar, ladies and gents. THE Leland Sklar, fanboying over Macca.
    Doesn't get much better than that.

  • @rome8180
    @rome8180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +328

    I'm glad Lee appreciates McCartney's playing as much as I do. Easily my biggest influence. He's rhythmic, he's harmonic, he's melodic, and his tone is perfection. I tend to like his parts that move around a bit more than "Taxman," but you can't deny the groove.
    And by the way, Paul's picking technique is not the only reason the bass sounds so "explosive," Jack. It has a lot to do with production. Geoff Emerick was the engineer on Revolver and he was doing all sorts of creative things to feature Paul's bass. He has a book about recording the Beatles that's a great read if you're as nerdy about production as I am.

    • @akwilson1676
      @akwilson1676 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Rain is easily his best.

    • @_-_Michael_-_
      @_-_Michael_-_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Also they messed up that was Hofner. In ‘66 he was recording all stuff on Rickenbacker, that’s why it sounds like it sounds. They really should know a little better while doing video about something hah...

    • @richardrichard5409
      @richardrichard5409 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@_-_Michael_-_ yup and Fender Jazz bass too. Started in 65 with some Rubber Soul tracks and Day Ttripper😎

    • @skwidwurd9088
      @skwidwurd9088 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@richardrichard5409 Uhm, no. Try '68 when the Jazz basses (left hand & right hand) showed up.

    • @_-_Michael_-_
      @_-_Michael_-_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Judging from photos it was just 1968 when Jazz Bass made it’s apperance, never heard or read it mentioned somewhere earlier. ‘65 should be just Horner and Rick transition period, all rick in ‘66-‘67 and in ‘68 there is some Jazz Bass, ‘69 return of both Hofners and some Rick, and ‘70 would be Rick.

  • @stevenwillie2782
    @stevenwillie2782 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Picking up a bass again after 25 years of supporting a disabled wife and a disabled son. They're mostly healthy now. I'm starting from scratch again, playing bass. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you. You have inspired me. Tears in my eyes inspired.

  • @lexo30
    @lexo30 2 ปีที่แล้ว +317

    Btw, Lennon never said that Ringo wasn't the best drummer in the Beatles. Literally no record of him ever saying that. This joke has been traced to a British radio comedy sketch from 1981. Just throwing that in there.

    • @spammalina
      @spammalina 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Exactly - why do so many people perpetuate this mythical comment about Ringo to John. I believe Jaspar Carrott (a comedian over here in the UK) also used the same gag about Ringo on TV in one of his sets.

    • @joel2421
      @joel2421 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It’s true that Lennon never said it, but it’s also true . . .

    • @KariKauree
      @KariKauree 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@joel2421 Oh, you don't think Ringo was a good drummer? Paul was better? 😂🥱

    • @joel2421
      @joel2421 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@KariKauree Name another big time band where they would let the bass player play drums on actual records? Or sometimes use session drummers? Who could imagine Led Zeppelin or the Stones doing such a thing?

    • @joel2421
      @joel2421 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KariKauree Name another big time band where they would let the bass player play drums on actual records? Or sometimes use session drummers? Who could imagine Led Zeppelin or the Stones doing such a thing?

  • @angeldquintas
    @angeldquintas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    Paul started playing his Rickenbacker bass exclusively during the Rubber Soul era, so he mostly used his Rick bass on Revolver! That’s why the lower notes go a bit deeper and why it’s a bit more percussive :)

    • @_-_Michael_-_
      @_-_Michael_-_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Exactly, how can pros like this mess this up and nobody in room corrected them on this... shame

    • @thexdude
      @thexdude 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@_-_Michael_-_ It's a bit hard to tell, plus most people who haven't really researched the Beatles may've simply thought that since the Hofner and the Rick kinda sound a little similar.

    • @_-_Michael_-_
      @_-_Michael_-_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@thexdude Yes the lack of research on this is present... BTW as someone who played both Rick and Hofner, you can make Rick sound like Hofner (like Paul did on Come together for example) but you can’t make Hofner sound like Rick 😂 Rick is gnarly beast that has sustain. Hofner is delicate eggshell, with more “upright bass” tone and timbre to it. Also what helps the confusion here is that Paul played Hofner live in ‘66, if he played Rick as on record there would not be so much co fusion over this.

    • @thexdude
      @thexdude 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@_-_Michael_-_ Makes sense.

    • @richardrichard5409
      @richardrichard5409 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@_-_Michael_-_ 100% spot on

  • @enigmah625
    @enigmah625 2 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    Still in the middle of watching, but, watching Leland just shaking his head in awe over Thundercat’s “Them Changes” is a perfect way to describe how I feel when I see Stephen, Dennis & Justin live, straight adoration, inspiration and complete absorption of everything being played . Also, I’m 99% sure Stephen uses a MoogerFooger MF-101 for envelope, I usually see it with a couple more pedals during his shows.

    • @NothingHereButMe
      @NothingHereButMe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I‘m 99% sure he’s got a whammy as well

  • @JGtheChampion
    @JGtheChampion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I appreciate the fact that they're actually complementing Thundercats song for being mostly comprised of loops. I feel like a lot of times people hateon music that's created that way

  • @DanielRWomack
    @DanielRWomack 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Shoutout to Hope for 21:28 in demoing what Nicole was explaining with her MXR. Didn't go unnoticed and much appreciated.

    • @VendettaMax
      @VendettaMax ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What a boss for doing that. I heard it and went looking for someone else who noticed. Next level detail there, Hope.

  • @apothecurio
    @apothecurio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    It should be noted that Thunder Cat’s live shows are an entirely different beast. If you could imagine like a hyper active 90’s Japanese video game boss battle. Pretty much that for an hour and a half. He treats his songs as how any jazzer treats a jazz standard. Play like a minute of the actual song and then improv for like 5-10 minutes off of that.

    • @juliespore
      @juliespore 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Seeing him live this Tuesday for the first time. So stoked for that.

    • @papa_pt
      @papa_pt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup. Just get your mind blown the whole time..the drummer and keys player are just as crazy as he is too 😁

    • @okbill18yearsagoedited25
      @okbill18yearsagoedited25 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ok here me out, im seeing RHCP, thunder cat, and beck at the same show this summer im so excited

    • @papa_pt
      @papa_pt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@okbill18yearsagoedited25 damn where's that at? Sounds awesome

    • @okbill18yearsagoedited25
      @okbill18yearsagoedited25 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@papa_pt Sofi stadium in los angles

  • @petermeter8221
    @petermeter8221 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    The amazing thing about Taxman was that it was recorded back in 1966 and McCartney was only 23 turning 24. Bass on “Old Brown Shoe”, “Dear Prudence”, “Something”, “And Your Bird Can Sing”, “Rain”. Too many to mention.

    • @McDoinky
      @McDoinky ปีที่แล้ว +2

      old brown shoe is harrison

  • @whiskeycrusaderwill8699
    @whiskeycrusaderwill8699 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Don't worry about the length of your videos Jack! I would sit through another 2 hours of that conversation, and I'm sure I'm not alone in that thought.

  • @johnhoerl7326
    @johnhoerl7326 2 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    One of the important factors in the bass sound of Taxman (along with Paul switching to a Rickenbacker) is a change in how George Martin recorded the bass. According to the book Beatles ‘66, Martin had a studio engineer rewire a speaker cone backwards so it would function as a bass mic. The larger surface area of the cone captured more of the bigger wave forms from the bass amp.

    • @stuffandjunkanduhh5049
      @stuffandjunkanduhh5049 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No rewiring required. Any speaker can be used as a microphone as is actually. Pretty useful trick for kick drum to get a little extra boop haha.

    • @jacquescousteau217
      @jacquescousteau217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was early on. By the time of the Rick in 65 Paul was using a Vox 100 watt head with various cabs. I think possibly four 12 inch at the time, could be smaller bottom, but they did a bit of both direct,and miking the cab as well. I always thought it bizarre that they used like U 47-57 Neumann’s to mix the guitar,and I assume bass amps. Then again I’m not an engineer …

    • @joshuapriest1777
      @joshuapriest1777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You should read "Here There and Everywhere" by Geoff Emerick. He was the engineer you speak of

    • @jacquescousteau217
      @jacquescousteau217 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joshuapriest1777 I did …

    • @jacquescousteau217
      @jacquescousteau217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That was Emericks doing, he was the engineer, George was the producer albeit I’m sure at the end of the day he approved whatever engineer was working with the Beatles he approved of .

  • @Mis4Mountain
    @Mis4Mountain 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Leland is absolutely incredible. His knowledge and experience is something to stand in awe of.

  • @alexgourdikian1741
    @alexgourdikian1741 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Seeing Thundercat live is insane. It's crazy to see how he can make so much music with 1 six string bass and some pedals.

  • @sebastianloaizamusic2856
    @sebastianloaizamusic2856 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Leland is the most fucking humble person I've seen... He's just amazing.

  • @laural.enright4780
    @laural.enright4780 2 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    One of the songs that I think reall y shows off McCartney's inventiveness is Cry Baby Cry where he comes up with four different bass lines for each stanza. It's really fantastic to listen to to headphones
    Also, the John Lennon "quote" about Ringo has been debunked. John never said it.

    • @Sponiwolf
      @Sponiwolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      " ... has been debunked. John never said it." -- Thank you :)

    • @Crushenator500
      @Crushenator500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      It pains me every time I hear that dumb quote, 'comedian' Jasper Carrot made it up in the 80s. John could have played with anyone during his solo career, but he stuck with Ringo because he really is a damn good player.

    • @laural.enright4780
      @laural.enright4780 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Crushenator500 Yeah, there's a great video on TH-cam of all these drummers talking about how much they were inspired by Ringo Starr's work. Ringo was perfect for that group.

    • @jacquescousteau217
      @jacquescousteau217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I’m glad you said it first. Lennon indeed never said it, it was some comedian - asshole - that said it,and never retacted it after it became a catch phrase ,and a Ringo put down.

    • @louiebellas
      @louiebellas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes! I’ve always thought Cry Baby Cry is a masterpiece in all fields. That second verse, the drums and bass lock in perfectly it’s such a great groove over that dark descending pattern. Really demonstrates the chemistry of the Beatles, I don’t know how they would’ve done it but Paul and Ringo were clearly experts at hearing what works best. Even George’s very minimal but amazing lead input in that song is brilliant. All four were incredibly professional musicians without realising. I could go on for hours.

  • @1bassman9
    @1bassman9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    True story !!! After playing guitar a few years I was attracted to the bass after I heard Lee Sklar playing the bass in "Your Smilin' Face". Knowing very little about bass playing I went to a consignment shop over 40 years ago on Melrose Ave in West Hollywood and picked up a bass to play. It was an old Fender and the neck was practically worn down but my fingers were doing things I could never imagine playing as if tracks were laid in the neck. The sales rep confided in me that it was consigned by Lee Sklar !!!

  • @fernandoperdomomusic
    @fernandoperdomomusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Its actually Paul's Rickenbacker 4001 on Revolver..

  • @fheering
    @fheering 2 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    Hey, don't you guys at Professional Musicians React think that an episode (or two, or three, or more...) with sound engineers would be cool? About sound engineering and the lot?

    • @DeadWaxShow
      @DeadWaxShow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Great idea!

    • @fheering
      @fheering 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DeadWaxShow Lovely!

    • @hayazi96able
      @hayazi96able 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DeadWaxShow Yes.

  • @Jose_diazlife
    @Jose_diazlife 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    So happy you included TCat

  • @RDubs15
    @RDubs15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I came to the bass the same way Nicole did - I loved the lines (and the instrument) and wanted to learn to play. I’m always so glad to learn from these incredible musicians!
    Every time I watch these videos I hear something new in the songs that I love and it really increases my appreciation not only for the songs you analyze but songs that utilize similar techniques.

  • @Jim_Thomas_Draper
    @Jim_Thomas_Draper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Hi! Huge Beatles nerd here (and as it happens I live on the next street from where Paul grew up!). This is an excellent episode, but I am gonna nitpick a couple of things (just in case anyone happens to find this interesting!).
    They didn't all go to school together. The original lineup of The Quarrymen (the band that eventually evolved into The Beatles) were mostly John's schoolfriends (their school was Quarrybank High School, hence the band name), but Paul and George went to a different school (The Liverpool Institute, which in the 90s Paul helped turn into the Liverpool Institute of Performing Arts) and Ringo went to yet another school. Ringo didn't join the band until after they'd left school and spent months in Hamburg though.
    Speaking of Ringo, the quote about him not even being the best drummer in The Beatles is often attributed to John, but it was actually British stand up comedian Jasper Carrot!

  • @codymccloud7718
    @codymccloud7718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I hope guests might start bringing their rigs, or some pared down version, with them. I would love to see Nicole demo that Synth sound she's talking about. And who wouldn't want to see Leland Sklar do his Hendrix thing?

  • @Sagnad8
    @Sagnad8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    It would be great to get your thoughts on the Get Back documentary film!

    • @Billchu13
      @Billchu13 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      8 hours? What is this, a documentary for Peter Jackson fans?

    • @Sagnad8
      @Sagnad8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Billchu13 for me it’s a great insight into the way the band worked (and didn’t work) and a chance to see some of the most iconic musicians of our time do what they do best. In all of its glory/tedium/politics.

    • @slippinjimmy6511
      @slippinjimmy6511 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Billchu13 🤯

    • @tamifaulkner4103
      @tamifaulkner4103 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Billchu13 Worth every hour to true Beatles fans.

    • @Billchu13
      @Billchu13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tamifaulkner4103 I plan to watch with my dad, as we are both LOTR and Beatles fans. Timing will be difficult with how long the doc is.

  • @fromdreamtostream
    @fromdreamtostream 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Nicole! I’m a bassist and was similar in my own development. There were lines that I loved and learned before there were bassists I loved and followed. I think Lee put it well, in that you fell in love with the sound of the instrument before any of its players. I’m so glad you felt comfortable sharing that.

  • @aa-xi8bc
    @aa-xi8bc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Wow, almost 40 minute video. We’re being spoiled! Thanks for the great videos guys

    • @lizziebirch2871
      @lizziebirch2871 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      But don't you just love being spoiler?! 🥳

    • @donalmaguire6099
      @donalmaguire6099 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      its about 5 hours too short. could listen to these all day.

  • @raystaar
    @raystaar ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm a massive Beatles fan and have been from the gate. Back in the day, I used to get grief from friends and roommates for putting my favorite tracks on endless repeat, day after day, so it does my heart good to hear people like Leland and Nicole wax rhapsodic about how mega and multitalented they all were and are. I just discovered this channel, by the way, and I'm loving it. Thanks, guys.

  • @cyclone1276
    @cyclone1276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    That thundercat song is incredibly groovy and funky! I’ve never heard them before; you have turned me onto a new sound yet again...
    Idk how long you’d have to make this video, but seeing you guys breaking down Talking Heads masterpiece: Stop Making Sense (the full concert) would be an amazing and informative video.

    • @akmadsen
      @akmadsen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Oh, man. You've stumbled upon a treasure trove. Thundercat (and friends) is doing all kinds of crazy stuff. Enjoy! :)

    • @1998Cebola
      @1998Cebola 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      You should check out Flying Lotus who produces a lot of Thundercat

    • @Johnny-oc2kl
      @Johnny-oc2kl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thunder and his friends are like the high school genius weirdos you admired but never talked to.

    • @justsomejusstsome8994
      @justsomejusstsome8994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "them"? It's just one guy

    • @andersonneil2293
      @andersonneil2293 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@justsomejusstsome8994 Them can be singular

  • @splashofun
    @splashofun 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    That old Isley Bros. "Boiling Funk" Sound. I think Supercat knew some people would recognise it, so I like how he added the "Footsteps" drum beat. The Isleys used that"Boiling" sound in several songs, look 'em up! Great post you all!

    • @smoothoscillator1
      @smoothoscillator1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      First time I heard that thundercat song I thought he lifted the beat and bassline from Isley bros. I agree with you on why he used the “footsteps” beat - sort of a shout out to the Isley brothers

    • @DaveDEF82
      @DaveDEF82 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@smoothoscillator1 Debatable if only a head nod to the Isleys or also to the way J Dilla used those drums for "One won't do" as Thundercat is also a BIIIIG Dilla head.

  • @KenSpassione
    @KenSpassione 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Listening to taxman, one of the things that Paul manages to do is synchronized beautifully with Ringo's snare hit. It gives very very broad sense of impact and his low and low mid makes that snare hit so much stronger. These guys were the masters of the BackBeat. Unbelievable!

  • @joelapp
    @joelapp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The thundercat bass sounds like they hired Bootsy.

  • @michaeldoherty8653
    @michaeldoherty8653 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds is an amazing line. He also wrote the arpeggiated guitar part.

  • @oskarsvito
    @oskarsvito 2 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    🖕
    Fucking awesome. It's cool to see that we are not just staying still as musicians on top of the shoulders of giants, but we are actually moving forward, making new styles and genres.

    • @jas_bataille
      @jas_bataille 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those new genres are getting created because we stand on the shoulder of previous musicians.

    • @oskarsvito
      @oskarsvito 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jas_bataille Not my point

  • @thornels
    @thornels ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've seen Thundercat live 3 times so far, and it's an incredible experience every time. Not only does he have some of the most incredible improvised bass solos I've seen, but his humor and interaction with the crowd inbetween songs make the shows that much more of a lifetime experience.

  • @ricc_2088
    @ricc_2088 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've only been playing bass for about a year and a few months completely self taught. I'd say the person that turned me onto bass was Krist Novoselic

  • @thebassman2008
    @thebassman2008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is one my favorite channels on TH-cam hands down. I really like the conversations. Keep doing what you’re doing!

  • @DreamCheaters
    @DreamCheaters 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    love this so much, very blessed to hear legends taking every detail and diging so deep about the instrument they love. thank you so much for this

  • @fabiojcostaa
    @fabiojcostaa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Once again, really great episode, thank you so much for this.

  • @jonise2524
    @jonise2524 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Don't forget Mr.Taylor ,the bassist from Duran Duran, very underrated bassist, he is awesome

  • @RussellBeattie
    @RussellBeattie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Just watched Get Back this past weekend and have been re-obsessed with the Beatles all week, so this is such a great video right now. You guys should do an episode about it.

    • @dansmithwave
      @dansmithwave 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      One of the many things Get Back has cleared up once and for all is that Ringo definitely WAS the best drummer in The Beatles. 😎

  • @panchozilla1
    @panchozilla1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I LOVE this channel. I think the explaining terms in simple terms really allows everyone to understand music and what makes it better is that it makes the appreciation for the craft deeper.

  • @jochem420
    @jochem420 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Leland has more bragging rights than anyone, yet he is so humble. seems like a great dude

  • @lizziebirch2871
    @lizziebirch2871 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So much yes to loving the basslines and the songs. 💚 - And thank you all for a great episode. The enthusiasm from every single person here is contagious. 😃 Also I like your use of "footnotes".

  • @hamsandwichson
    @hamsandwichson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love how you're listening to more of the songs now and extending the guests appearance. 😍

  • @brunovillart
    @brunovillart 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Whoever edits the channel deserves a lot of credit! Things like adding the pedal effect to the speaker's voice (like the "envelope filter" part) to explain the sound is amazing and many don't even notice.

    • @faustobrusamolino6345
      @faustobrusamolino6345 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's no sound editing there, it's the guy actually doing it with his voice!

  • @jonahdewing6919
    @jonahdewing6919 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    As a music lover/player but not necessarily a trained one, I really love the short little blurbs about some of the musical terminology! I’ve heard/learned quite a few of them from mixing and production, but the short and quick explanations are fantastic refreshers and are greatly appreciated! Well deserved sub!

  • @phobson70
    @phobson70 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I cannot love this enough! Amazing talent offering forthright reactions and being just people. I found you after I picked up the bass again after a 35 year break and I am a beginner all over again. Your love for the music is infectious.

  • @kristinbrynteson3693
    @kristinbrynteson3693 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You all are amazing. Love everything about this channel. I played bass as a kid (need to come back to it). Sting was my favorite. All of his work but mostly early songs from The Police. So good!

  • @ruukaoz
    @ruukaoz ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i think the silence is what makes something funky. The short silences between each 16th note, or the long silences when you draw focus onto the drums, its there. Every time the bass is silent and comes back, the attack punches you in the chest.

    • @piscesman54
      @piscesman54 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolutely. I read somewhere (I forget which bassist said it), but the idea is "give the snare drum room to breath." Meaning that you mute the note right before the snare hit, which makes it all the more explosive, and come back right after it to underscore the kick. Great technique.

  • @dbkinghorn
    @dbkinghorn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    wow, that was really a great stream! fun, informative, and heartfelt

  • @mikeglassburn
    @mikeglassburn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the most amazing and needed thing for me right now. You all are amazing.

  • @andressalcedo6663
    @andressalcedo6663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Leland Sklar looks like such a great and humble guy. This is such a cool idea of a channel it’s the first video Ive watch from you guys and It’s so awesome. Greetings from colombia!!

  • @phatkau
    @phatkau 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Seeing Lee Sklar grooving to Thundercat honestly just made my day.

  • @wallfishmusic8063
    @wallfishmusic8063 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This just might be my favorite video interview EVER! Thank you all SO MUCH!

  • @ashtonparkband
    @ashtonparkband ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome! Thanks for putting this together 😊✌️

  • @druebio851
    @druebio851 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love that this channel is finally getting more and more recognition.

  • @Ross58
    @Ross58 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And we should never forget that Paul was supported by Ringo … it’s drums and Bass … A a child I was a drummer, listening to Ringo, so my sub conscious was fed by Paul on bass… somehow, years later I was playing bass…and never stopped since… Taxman… if 5 % appears to small… boom boom with Paul on bass … incredible ….and thanks for this video …👍🎶

  • @chrisjohns9631
    @chrisjohns9631 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So glad Leland mentioned Carol Kaye.

  • @johnbell891
    @johnbell891 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys are all so cool!!! Thanks for putting this online ❤ Go music!!!

  • @BIZARBIES
    @BIZARBIES 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It was a Ric bass y'all. I believe he went back to the Hof for Let It Be. Rubber Soul and on was the Ric.

  • @Lucas_S91
    @Lucas_S91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love that you guys have so many videos about bass!
    Also, I'm with Nicole about not really having a bass player that made me want to play bass. I just wanted to learn songs. It was only later that I kind of started analysing some players and was influenced by them.

  • @beckygrant2258
    @beckygrant2258 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    By the way, The Beatles never went to school together. Paul and George went to the same school but they were a year apart. They rode the bus home together and they found that they both played guitar. Paul met John at a church fair when his band, the Quarrymen were playing. Paul auditioned for John and joined the band. Paul told John about George. George auditioned for John and joined. They met Ringo when they were playing at a club in Hamburg, Germany…when Ringo was with Rory and the Hurricanes. Ringo filled in a couple of times when Beatles drummer, Pete Best was out sick. They knew Ringo was a much better drummer. When they auditioned for George Martin at EMI, he told them they needed a new drummer. They wanted Ringo and offered him the job.

  • @MetalHeadMarc
    @MetalHeadMarc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's been said i'm sure but all the little explanation breaks to bring those not familiar with some of the terms are the chefs kiss for this video. Well done!

  • @AleZayas
    @AleZayas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Loving this channel. Such a particular vibe but so nice. Loved this episode!

  • @welikerosafloyd
    @welikerosafloyd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Damn what a luxury to have Lee and Nicole! Great episode

  • @polara01
    @polara01 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was awesome please make these longer and just make a part one and part two... keep the fun going as long as you can this is awesome I never learned so much and laughed at the same time you guys are freaking great! Peace

  • @joerojastro504
    @joerojastro504 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great episode!
    Watched this at 4am, and now I can’t sleep.
    Awesome bassists!

  • @evanlinsey
    @evanlinsey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i love this channel and this video so i say this with love, but IMO it was a lot more enjoyable when everybody had headphones on and we could get clean audio of both the commentary and the music. plus i feel like it forces a close listen in a different way, and it was fun seeing everybody's reactions to that!

  • @rapnsee
    @rapnsee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love the video! FYI That John Lennon quote about Ringo was made up by British comedian Jasper Carrott in 1983. They all thought he was an excellent drummer!

  • @charlesmcgehee3227
    @charlesmcgehee3227 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really great conversation. Thanks for doing Taxman. That tune grabbed ahold of me right when Revolver was released.

  • @danijelcikes5202
    @danijelcikes5202 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Flipping y'all off with a smile! ..I.
    Great, great video guys. And girl!

  • @phunkybasstard
    @phunkybasstard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thundercat uses a Moog Moogerfooger MF101 Envelope Filter pedal!

    • @FunkadelicPancho
      @FunkadelicPancho 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He also uses the Pigtronix Envelope Phaser pretty often. Coupled live with the digitech whammy on the harmony setting set to one octave up

  • @frankmerendino1855
    @frankmerendino1855 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wish they had explored Rain or the bass counter melody Paul laid down for Something. It was melodic genius that truly helped make the song!

  • @johnnyterra1309
    @johnnyterra1309 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is really made well. great editing and great little bits of essential information inbetween.

  • @maracatu1979
    @maracatu1979 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best video yet! Loved how the 3 bass players are getting their head bobble on!

  • @pavese1379
    @pavese1379 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I started on bass exactly like Nicole, there is no bassist who made me want to play it, but certain songs, I didn't care that the bass player for Duran Duran is John Taylor, I just loved the lines and discovered my idols as I went on

  • @NonalignedVideos
    @NonalignedVideos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm loving these bass discussions. Lee can do no wrong.

  • @CeeTeeUSA
    @CeeTeeUSA 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great episode. Great conversation..

  • @bastiat6865
    @bastiat6865 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great explanations and examples of the technical components that you mention.

  • @marcpuyuelograndas1005
    @marcpuyuelograndas1005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Something, I Want You (She’s So Heavy), Hey Bulldog and Rain are my favorite Macca bass lines… They are astonishing.
    Also Goodnight Tonight and Silly Love Songs are perfect (in his Wings period).

    • @kurniadi9829
      @kurniadi9829 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      and I also love Dear Prudence, Lucy in the Sky with Diamond, Come Together and many more.

    • @kevinlakeman5043
      @kevinlakeman5043 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Those are monster bass cuts; great choices. I'd throw in Come Together and Paperback Writer as well.

  • @sapien82
    @sapien82 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    new to this channel glad I found it , I love the beatles and thundercat , great episode. would love to see some larry graham or bootsy breakdowns

    • @Orianasama
      @Orianasama 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The lack of discussion around Bootsy Collins and Larry Graham was criminal!

  • @crocooks5851
    @crocooks5851 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    man this channel is so good, every single time i finish a video i'm inspired by all the cool ideas you guys talk about. time to go work on tracks lol.

  • @marcosjaramillo1314
    @marcosjaramillo1314 ปีที่แล้ว

    POMPLAMOOSE!!! I knew I recognized you!!! That freakin lucid dreaming video f-ed my life up! Love you guys!!!

  • @aquamarine99911
    @aquamarine99911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Really burying the lede on "Taxman". The frenetic energy of the song is the double sixteenth note hit on the high D octave in the main riff. It's hard to hear, but we sure feel it. Lots of bass players miss it, which is why live covers of Taxman tend not to have the same energy. After 1966, McCartney played a lot more keyboard, especially on Pepper. That's why he would overdub the bass line as Lee was saying. Or George (e.g. Hey, Jude, Maxwell's Silver Hammer, Golden Slumbers) or John (e.g. Helter Skelter, Long and Winding Road) would play a Fender six-string bass on the bed tracks.
    Thundercat and Macca are good comparisons, because bass is just part of what they do as composers/musicians. They fit the line into the overall song.

  • @BassByTheBay
    @BassByTheBay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This channel is an EMBARRASSMENT... of riches... for bassists! 😁
    You had the "best bass lines" video with Nick, then an awesome one with Lee the legend, and now a _second_ one with Lee. So much bass love! 🤯 Thank you!!

  • @martoneill
    @martoneill 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great episode (and best explanation of ‘envelope’ !).

  • @user-hc5po6bn1l
    @user-hc5po6bn1l 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys are amazing. thank you for what you do