Quick update from Fractal: "We’re sorry to notify you that Ridge has been discovered to have issues maintaining signal integrity at PCIe 4.0 bandwidth with certain hardware configurations. Our recommendation for users experiencing instability in PCIe 4.0 mode is to configure their motherboard BIOS settings to PCIe 3.0 mode. We are developing a solution to enable full PCIe 4.0 compatibility, but until that is ready, we will update our listings to reflect that only PCIe 3.0 compatibility is guaranteed at this time." We will update you all when we get updates.
Thanks for the vid. Did you do enough testing with AMD VGA to encounter any issues with the original riser? I'm running similar config with B550i, 5600x, and RX6800 original riser is tripping the entire system after sleep mode when PCIe config in bios is set to auto/gen4. With PCIe set to gen3 all seems fine. I'm expecting a replacement board yet I'm curious if you encountered such problem with RX and/or RTX VGA too.
I built my pc last year but now I am shopping around for a new GPU... I didn't realise they had issues with the 4.0 bandwidth? Edit.. I have emailed them and got an instant response... Looks like they are still waiting on an updated part.
I think you could put the 4090 FE perfectly well. Just with two changes: 1 - Remove those two fans and put the 4090, they are counter productive and totally unnecessary. I bet the 4090 will never throttle down without them, as its own cooler is highly s over-engineered 2 - Put an SFX 850W, such as the one from Silverstone (which comes with the new 12+4 pin cable , and you are good to go.
Slightly undervolted and power limited 5800X3D with Noctua low profile cooler combined with shroud modded and undervolted RTX 4090 would be a pretty cool combination in this case - if you can purchase 600 W power cable somewhere, that would fit and doesn't burn instantly… 😅
Incredibly helpful, mate. My wife's ITX died this week, so I'm going to put a new PC together over the weekend and this case is what I decided on, along with a spare 3080 I have laying around. This vid hit on every concern and questions I had. Think what I'm going to do is see how the temps are with just one fan on the GPU to avoid that fan issue.
The extra fans mean nearly nothing, remove them. If you double up on fans and they are not matched then all you are doing is introducing air flow blockage. The FE 4090 is amazing size and we should somewhat be pissed off that AIB for some odd reason were locked into so much larger coolers for their cards. This is even more of a complaint when we look at the FE 4080.
Better air flow would be to ditch the big fans, let the gpu breath, 2 small fans at the front pulling through the dust filter, 1 small van exhausting at the back slot on either side. Create a directional flow.
Honestly, you're probably getting worse performance for your gpu if you're mounting it right on top of fans like that anyway (different case if it was shroudless). The combination of the two different fans stacked on top of each other will create turbulence, which will both make it noisier and prevent air flow through the gpu making it hotter. You would either want to remove the gpu fans and mount the 120/140's directly to the gpu heat sink, or (especially with the fe cards), just don't use the case fans there. Since the case allows flow through directly, the 4090 would probably perform exceptionally since all of it's airflow is completely unhindered. No reason to put case fans next to it in the first place.
For a 3+ slot card that is going to sit flush to the case, probably no need to use the case fan. But for smaller 2 slot cards, I think the case fan will help.
Its bad to leave those stock fans in right up on the video cards. Air flow turbulence will be awful. Of course remove for a 4090. Better to let them pull in fresh air directly.
Nice video. What software did you use for benchmarks? I am interested in this case but a bit worried about the CPU temps during gaming...I plan to use a 5600x or 5700x.
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Why you didn't remove the fan to fit the 4090? seems those slow fans they are not going to do the job anyway.
I am super tempted to send my Revolt 3 case (Black w/power supply) back to Amazon. It has not been opened and it was ordered the day before the Fractal Ridge came out. I really LOVE the Ridge case so much.
How common is the reference card really? They don't sell it in Scandinavia. Other cards you should be able to maby remove the fans and connect the 140mm to the gpu.
my problem is alot of the new cards not just the 4090 or 80 but the smaller onesyet to come are gonna be bigger than previous gen its the way of things and so many of these cases look good but are obsolete before theyve even been released due to this problem.
Question though, if you forgo the 140mm fans and add in the RTX 4090, will it physically fit? Like with all the cabling and stuff? The RTX 4090 on this would be a perfect match on the 4K 120Hz TV in the living room.
Edit after trying it myself: Yes, it will fit with slim fans. Arctic P14 Slim in my case. It’s strange that another reviewer on YT/ website could fit the 4090 even with those fans without any problems. Overclock 3D.
@@tinybit780 thanks but what I'm curious is will the 4090 with the PCIe 3.0 adapter fit, it would be amazing to see a 4090 (any 4090 not just the FE) actually working in this case.
With fans neither fits. I would like someone to actually check that in a closed case. Also the included adapter is pcie gen 4. Yiu can fit the card without the fans though
How long is that Strix? I have a xfx 6800 319 swft which is 340mm. I have seen other xfx cards installed in the ridge, but it still makes me nervous and hesitant to buy.
Having fans for the 4090 fe would be a waste. The federal fans counter spin meaning and being so close would cause alot of turbulence. I wouldn't be surprised if the Temps were better fanless rather than using let's say a dim fan
I am confused. „Regarding GPU support, know that we managed to fit an RTX 4090 Founders Edition graphics card within this chassis, even with the case's two 140mm fans.“ OC3D.
I just checked that video, I don't believe that is the case in the video he did not show it actually being closed and panels being put back on. On the video he shows it without the side bracket installed which means the case is still bent outwards. If they did, then it is some kind of magic or I have thicker 4090 here haha.
The Fractal site shows it accepts a max GPU thickness of 57mm with and 82mm without the fans. The issue then is the length, 325mm with and 335mm without SSD, and height of 125mm with and 137mm without top fans. Seems there is decent wiggle room and should (hopefully) fit a non-FE GPU, as the FE's are either near impossible to get or not available in all countries. I currently have the Node 202 and managed to fit a 3080Ti in there with 2x 15mm thick Noctua fans underneath. It's almost as if the card was made for that case with its perfect fit. I found that only the INNO3D brand fits.
@@georgimonov9768 Height is no problem, it says 151mm. I had even spare room with the 4090 FE. The only tight fit was the width inside the case (or height/thickness of the GPU). I needed to install slim fans for a comfortable fit, however, they are more than enough and I have great temps.
cool build...i got a vid i dod of my air cooled q58..ryzeen7 2700....rtx 2060...noctua l9a cpu cooler with a fan grill and i added a 120mm fan over it and mesh closes fine...awsome airflow,top and sife intake and bottom exhaust
installing a large graphics card is pointless. This case is not designed for gaming because the airflow in the processor section is practically non-existent. You can install the largest possible air cooler and use the best thermal paste, but the processor temperature will still be high. If you want something compact, buy a gaming console
I don't believe it to be an important step as like any other connector you plug in tightly then pull back to ensure it is in there securely. I understand there has been a whole big deal with higher end cards and melted connectors, but this principle applies to all connectors regardless of card.
@@A2KMedia It is important step - because this connector has many issues and it is dangerous to "break" wires on this connector. I'm trying to find if I can put my RTX 4090 into this case. But no one show if wires are blendup or not. Every one, who make review of this case, cutoff scene with connect this connector. Sorry for my english, I hope you understand 🙂
@@A2KMedia My reply disappeared. Strange. I have adapter for RTX4090 (for 12VHPWR), but I still cannot close my PC case. Could you, please, share photo of cables in reviewed computer case? I'm very curious.
Preety sure they could've made room for an ATX PSU in there if they remove the SSD tray, maybe also added some small 80mm fans for the CPU side too to help with the cooling options, also maybe getting rid of the included fans to lower the price down of the case. At this size, getting it 5mm thicker wouldn't change the profile to much and it would allow for thicker GPUs and taller CPU Coolers too. Great case though.
That card is a beast! not only is it "just" too large (without using a file :) you would also require a larger PSU and last I checked you can not buy a 1200W small form PSU (750W max).. unless the case will accept a full sized PSU?
Don't you see guys that it's very stupid to use a high voltage cpu on a tiny compressed case like that? I would recommend to use a low voltage cpu to get less heat as much as i can that will allow the cpu temp to be mainted by this poor cooling system .. or idk maybe i am Wrong 😊
hey, yep that is exactly the point. There is a limit on what kind of cpu you can place in this case based on the cooler size. lower power is going to be the better choice
@@A2KMedia remove all brackets and screws before putting all components inside the case I love how you just slip the gpu knowing you could unscrew the top part before installing the gpu, you mentioned running the wires at the back of the mobo but didn’t do it at the first place. you didn’t care reading the manual before making the video
Esto es una tontería; ¿para qué intentan colocar piezas de gran tamaño? es que acaso no han considerado que éste case es de factor mini itx y de las pequeñas. Quien gusta de armar pc pequeñas debe de considerar que las piezas a utilizar serán las más pequeñas posibles.
It's to test the maximum potential of a small case. If you watched the video, you would've seen that for the finished build we actually used a smaller card.
Whats the best low profile airCooler i can get for a 10900k ,..im doing an itx build and i have around 130mm reach for a good air cooler... Any ideas...no budget
Quick update from Fractal:
"We’re sorry to notify you that Ridge has been discovered to have issues maintaining signal integrity at PCIe 4.0 bandwidth with certain hardware configurations.
Our recommendation for users experiencing instability in PCIe 4.0 mode is to configure their motherboard BIOS settings to PCIe 3.0 mode. We are developing a solution to enable full PCIe 4.0 compatibility, but until that is ready, we will update our listings to reflect that only PCIe 3.0 compatibility is guaranteed at this time."
We will update you all when we get updates.
Thanks for the vid. Did you do enough testing with AMD VGA to encounter any issues with the original riser? I'm running similar config with B550i, 5600x, and RX6800 original riser is tripping the entire system after sleep mode when PCIe config in bios is set to auto/gen4. With PCIe set to gen3 all seems fine. I'm expecting a replacement board yet I'm curious if you encountered such problem with RX and/or RTX VGA too.
An (expensive) alternative I guess is to buy a 5cm PCIE Gen4 riser cable?
I built my pc last year but now I am shopping around for a new GPU... I didn't realise they had issues with the 4.0 bandwidth?
Edit.. I have emailed them and got an instant response... Looks like they are still waiting on an updated part.
I think you could put the 4090 FE perfectly well. Just with two changes:
1 - Remove those two fans and put the 4090, they are counter productive and totally unnecessary. I bet the 4090 will never throttle down without them, as its own cooler is highly s over-engineered
2 - Put an SFX 850W, such as the one from Silverstone (which comes with the new 12+4 pin cable , and you are good to go.
You could also put in slim line fans if you REALLY wanted fans.
Glad you tried fitting a strix card in it, since that was my biggest concern about this case.
I think i will pull the trigger and buy this case
Slightly undervolted and power limited 5800X3D with Noctua low profile cooler combined with shroud modded and undervolted RTX 4090 would be a pretty cool combination in this case - if you can purchase 600 W power cable somewhere, that would fit and doesn't burn instantly… 😅
Incredibly helpful, mate. My wife's ITX died this week, so I'm going to put a new PC together over the weekend and this case is what I decided on, along with a spare 3080 I have laying around. This vid hit on every concern and questions I had. Think what I'm going to do is see how the temps are with just one fan on the GPU to avoid that fan issue.
The extra fans mean nearly nothing, remove them. If you double up on fans and they are not matched then all you are doing is introducing air flow blockage.
The FE 4090 is amazing size and we should somewhat be pissed off that AIB for some odd reason were locked into so much larger coolers for their cards. This is even more of a complaint when we look at the FE 4080.
Better air flow would be to ditch the big fans, let the gpu breath, 2 small fans at the front pulling through the dust filter, 1 small van exhausting at the back slot on either side. Create a directional flow.
Honestly, you're probably getting worse performance for your gpu if you're mounting it right on top of fans like that anyway (different case if it was shroudless). The combination of the two different fans stacked on top of each other will create turbulence, which will both make it noisier and prevent air flow through the gpu making it hotter. You would either want to remove the gpu fans and mount the 120/140's directly to the gpu heat sink, or (especially with the fe cards), just don't use the case fans there. Since the case allows flow through directly, the 4090 would probably perform exceptionally since all of it's airflow is completely unhindered. No reason to put case fans next to it in the first place.
For a 3+ slot card that is going to sit flush to the case, probably no need to use the case fan. But for smaller 2 slot cards, I think the case fan will help.
Its bad to leave those stock fans in right up on the video cards. Air flow turbulence will be awful. Of course remove for a 4090. Better to let them pull in fresh air directly.
I have been googling this for ages and you’ve done a video on it, great job ❤️
Thank you so much for making this video, now I know which case to purchase.
Np! Thanks for watching
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couldn't you swap to 15mm fans to fit the 4090?
Should be no problem, Silverstone put 15mm fans in cases like this, so you have more clearance.
Nice video. What software did you use for benchmarks? I am interested in this case but a bit worried about the CPU temps during gaming...I plan to use a 5600x or 5700x.
Why you didn't remove the fan to fit the 4090? seems those slow fans they are not going to do the job anyway.
A 4090 fits just fine. How is it a waste? Swap for slim fans and you're fine.
I am super tempted to send my Revolt 3 case (Black w/power supply) back to Amazon. It has not been opened and it was ordered the day before the Fractal Ridge came out. I really LOVE the Ridge case so much.
You think you can water cool this with a MO-RA3? With the pump attached to the MO-RA3
I also have the MO-RA and would like to know. this comment needs to be pinned.
Good little build vid 👍 - that case is bigger than I first thought! 😀
It looks SUPER COOL! 😍😍😍
How common is the reference card really? They don't sell it in Scandinavia. Other cards you should be able to maby remove the fans and connect the 140mm to the gpu.
The fractal ridge doesn't need case fans with RTX 4080 / 4090. I'm using it with zero case fans, thermals are very acceptable.
my problem is alot of the new cards not just the 4090 or 80 but the smaller onesyet to come are gonna be bigger than previous gen its the way of things and so many of these cases look good but are obsolete before theyve even been released due to this problem.
how much does such a complete set weigh?
Yes.... The first thing I cared about when I saw the case is does it fit a 4090
it looks like a domino with no dots. should get a bunch and topple them
The problem is that you can fit only founders edition wich is hard to buy. So what the point of this nees?
I've built in smaller but I'd love building in that! Looks great and great layout
Question though, if you forgo the 140mm fans and add in the RTX 4090, will it physically fit? Like with all the cabling and stuff? The RTX 4090 on this would be a perfect match on the 4K 120Hz TV in the living room.
Edit after trying it myself: Yes, it will fit with slim fans. Arctic P14 Slim in my case.
It’s strange that another reviewer on YT/ website could fit the 4090 even with those fans without any problems. Overclock 3D.
Did you even watch the video? Lol
Yes
@@tinybit780 thanks but what I'm curious is will the 4090 with the PCIe 3.0 adapter fit, it would be amazing to see a 4090 (any 4090 not just the FE) actually working in this case.
With fans neither fits. I would like someone to actually check that in a closed case. Also the included adapter is pcie gen 4. Yiu can fit the card without the fans though
How long is that Strix? I have a xfx 6800 319 swft which is 340mm. I have seen other xfx cards installed in the ridge, but it still makes me nervous and hesitant to buy.
Looks like a good case for a streaming / media server
this case is my new setup. 👍👍 the node 202 is good but this one is the scenestealer.
Now do it with a custom loop. :3
You could use only one of those fans mounted in the bracket for the GPU cooling. At least you could cool the site of the GPU where the Chip is.
Having fans for the 4090 fe would be a waste. The federal fans counter spin meaning and being so close would cause alot of turbulence. I wouldn't be surprised if the Temps were better fanless rather than using let's say a dim fan
I am confused.
„Regarding GPU support, know that we managed to fit an RTX 4090 Founders Edition graphics card within this chassis, even with the case's two 140mm fans.“
OC3D.
That sound alike they forced it in
@@A2KMedia They said "with ease"
I just checked that video, I don't believe that is the case in the video he did not show it actually being closed and panels being put back on. On the video he shows it without the side bracket installed which means the case is still bent outwards. If they did, then it is some kind of magic or I have thicker 4090 here haha.
Yeah, „with ease“ was states on the website. Perhaps they did a mistake. Do you think it would work with slim fans?
I can confirm: It works perfectly with Slim Fans. I chose Arctic P14 Slim. Very, very good case. My all time favourite so far.
what about thinner fans?
Would the 4090 fit without the case fans or slim fans?
I'll try it this weekend. Gonna use Arctic P14 Slim, these are quite new.
Update: Works.
The Fractal site shows it accepts a max GPU thickness of 57mm with and 82mm without the fans. The issue then is the length, 325mm with and 335mm without SSD, and height of 125mm with and 137mm without top fans. Seems there is decent wiggle room and should (hopefully) fit a non-FE GPU, as the FE's are either near impossible to get or not available in all countries.
I currently have the Node 202 and managed to fit a 3080Ti in there with 2x 15mm thick Noctua fans underneath. It's almost as if the card was made for that case with its perfect fit. I found that only the INNO3D brand fits.
I can confirm: 4090 FE works perfectly with Slim Fans. I chose Arctic P14 Slim. Very, very good case. My all time favourite so far.
There is no rtx 4090 under 137 height
@@georgimonov9768 Height is no problem, it says 151mm. I had even spare room with the 4090 FE.
The only tight fit was the width inside the case (or height/thickness of the GPU). I needed to install slim fans for a comfortable fit, however, they are more than enough and I have great temps.
@@tinybit780 i reade 137 mm
@@tinybit780 wait so my gainward rtx 4090 should be fine
Left channel on your audio has some issues. (edit with headphones to listen-proof before publishing)
Yes, sorry about that. Working on fixing the issue for the next time.
Can change those fans to smaller 15 mm ones!
Agree I did that in my node 202 with a 2080ti but it's all water cooled. I'll probably get this case to replace it since it's bigger and updated look.
Oh with changing fans you can fit almost anything in there. What you may find - you may not even need the fans at all.
it's not good for 4090 FE,the temps will go high.it's just not fit for high end builds no matter how much some people want it to be.
Looks just like the Silverstone rvn itx, and that is an absolutely amazing case! But this has more airflow
cool build...i got a vid i dod of my air cooled q58..ryzeen7 2700....rtx 2060...noctua l9a cpu cooler with a fan grill and i added a 120mm fan over it and mesh closes fine...awsome airflow,top and sife intake and bottom exhaust
installing a large graphics card is pointless. This case is not designed for gaming because the airflow in the processor section is practically non-existent. You can install the largest possible air cooler and use the best thermal paste, but the processor temperature will still be high. If you want something compact, buy a gaming console
17:20 so if I replace the fans with noctua slim fans, does it fit? Since I don't use anything else but noctua.
yes that would work
Why ALL of you cut off scene with wire connecting (connecting 12VHPWR connector)?
Why did not show this important step?
I don't believe it to be an important step as like any other connector you plug in tightly then pull back to ensure it is in there securely. I understand there has been a whole big deal with higher end cards and melted connectors, but this principle applies to all connectors regardless of card.
@@A2KMedia It is important step - because this connector has many issues and it is dangerous to "break" wires on this connector. I'm trying to find if I can put my RTX 4090 into this case. But no one show if wires are blendup or not. Every one, who make review of this case, cutoff scene with connect this connector.
Sorry for my english, I hope you understand 🙂
No problem. I think of you are worried, then I would recommend getting a custom cable for your power supply, this will help.
@@A2KMedia My reply disappeared. Strange.
I have adapter for RTX4090 (for 12VHPWR), but I still cannot close my PC case. Could you, please, share photo of cables in reviewed computer case? I'm very curious.
Could you not buy some slimline fans and still fit the 4090?
yep that would work, but kind off wasteful.
Which way would you install 80mm fans on the top? Intake or exhaust?
probably exaust. I would test it both ways with both prime95 and furmark for 30min to just make sure
@@A2KMedia thanks :D
Would a regular sized PSU fit this case with no issues?
heya, no - only sfx or sfx-l
You should try 120mm slim fans and then the 4090 might fit.
What was it like with the 4090 without the case fans?
FE card will fit no problem without the fans. I see some people bought slim fans and it works too.
@@A2KMedia thank you for the quick response!
A little bit of audio issues throughout the video, like at 22:45
Yes, sorry about that. Working on fixing the issue for the next time.
Founders Edition is shortest but thickest..
LOL! Was that a 650 Watt PSU I saw!?
can you switch the side panel to different side ?
yes they seem to be interchangeable.
...or... you can replace the 2x 280mm fans with the 15mm thick 140/120mm fans
yep! for sure, but then this case becomes much more expensive for what you get, but that is certainly an option.
I'm going to build a HTPC in it. A very low power system.
Nice! What you plan to use in it?
I guess AM5 is out with that cpu cooler.
the new 65W chips no problem!
Very nice effort, so even if you removed the two fans you still can't fit the 4090?!
With fans removed, can fit 4090 fe and most partner cards
Works with 140mm slim fans as well.
But not with stock?
Would it fit with slim fans?
yep
Are the white panels plastic or aluminum?
Steel
@@josearturo6169 thats sucks would be nice to be aluminum
This need 80mm fans at the front and back
At least a 850 Watt PSU!
meh.. cooler master nr200p is the better option when it comes to these small form cases with higher end hardware.
Does 3070 ti FE fit, or not ?
Yep
Preety sure they could've made room for an ATX PSU in there if they remove the SSD tray, maybe also added some small 80mm fans for the CPU side too to help with the cooling options, also maybe getting rid of the included fans to lower the price down of the case. At this size, getting it 5mm thicker wouldn't change the profile to much and it would allow for thicker GPUs and taller CPU Coolers too. Great case though.
Replace the fans
nice video its just your audio is auwfull im sorry to say that but good lighting/ camera
Yes, sorry about that. Working on fixing the issue for the next time.
17:35 thats an hilariously dumb statement.
That card is a beast! not only is it "just" too large (without using a file :) you would also require a larger PSU and last I checked you can not buy a 1200W small form PSU (750W max).. unless the case will accept a full sized PSU?
I would rather cut a hole in this case than run a 4090 on a 660 PSU ffs
well, this was just a test fit build - I completely agree on using much more powerfull PSU though
fix ur mic mate.static is annoying
Yes, sorry about that. Working on fixing the issue for the next time.
I thought my phone has the problem 😂
I can't hear any static but I'm using phone speakers.
Don't you see guys that it's very stupid to use a high voltage cpu on a tiny compressed case like that? I would recommend to use a low voltage cpu to get less heat as much as i can that will allow the cpu temp to be mainted by this poor cooling system .. or idk maybe i am Wrong 😊
hey, yep that is exactly the point. There is a limit on what kind of cpu you can place in this case based on the cooler size. lower power is going to be the better choice
Respectfully build
Thanks!
If you wrap a 4090 FE in two layers of duct tape, you should get a similar result :)
Do smth with audio next time. Cannot listen the video.
Yes, sorry about that. Working on fixing the issue for the next time.
So many mistakes were done by building this pc in this small form factor lol
hey, thanks for the feedback - we are still learning and would love to know what we could have done better for the future.
@@A2KMedia remove all brackets and screws before putting all components inside the case I love how you just slip the gpu knowing you could unscrew the top part before installing the gpu, you mentioned running the wires at the back of the mobo but didn’t do it at the first place. you didn’t care reading the manual before making the video
Esto es una tontería; ¿para qué intentan colocar piezas de gran tamaño? es que acaso no han considerado que éste case es de factor mini itx y de las pequeñas. Quien gusta de armar pc pequeñas debe de considerar que las piezas a utilizar serán las más pequeñas posibles.
It's to test the maximum potential of a small case. If you watched the video, you would've seen that for the finished build we actually used a smaller card.
Whats the best low profile airCooler i can get for a 10900k ,..im doing an itx build and i have around 130mm reach for a good air cooler...
Any ideas...no budget
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Well done! Thanks.
Thanks for watching!