I’ve done this many times. Doesn’t usually go that smoothly though. There are doctors and other providers out there who do care about their patients wellbeing .
@@jamiewright4804 they love the harassing people. Especially the previous woman who was out and pain had set in, then comes the detox. They love it. So do many pharmacists.
There are some people who do seek drugs. However 90% of us chronic pain patients use our meds correctly. I have never run out of my medication or needed an early refill. I have been on different pain medications for 25 years. I took myself off Fentanyl as it was too strong. I am tired of people saying “ You don’t look like you’re in pain”. Many just don’t understand.
Yep, you sound like me. Nobody understands because it’s an invisible disability. Not like a guy in a wheelchair or crutches. I get weird looks by people watching me park in a handicap spot. A few times I told questioners “ if only you knew buddy” and just shuffle away.
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Bingo. Chronic pain since 1976. Totally unmedicated now. No opiates. No muscle relaxer. No anti depressant. No anti seizure. 11 failed surgeries . Dead spinal cord stimulator. The doctors can only say I'm sorry. Not as sorry as I am.
For every ‘drug seeker’ there are hundreds of suffering patients who have never misused their MEDICINE. It’s time for this stereotyping to stop, as well as the war on Opiates prescribed by legitimate doctors.
Agreed. I am one of the suffering patients. I have been truly blessed with my pain doctor. He is doing other things to alleviate pain to in my back. For instance I just had my nerves burned in the left side between c4 and c5. The other side is going to be done on Wednesday. He still prescribes me my Percocet as a go to when I need them. Scenarios like in this video are very real. It should have " FOR DRUG SEEKERS ONLY" in the disclaimer. Because you're right. All those that suffer legitimately are placed in this category at some point or another. Thankfully I have the best Dr. He is the best for me but may not be for the guy down the street. It is all about being honest with your doctors. When my doctor was doing my procedure this last time, he was playing the soundrack from Guardians of the Galaxy. Way cool doc.
I could NOT agree with you more! I am one of those people who suffer needlessly because someone...I don't know if it is the medical field, the government... or both....are trying to save people who mis-use meds and they are killing us...people who JUST WANT RELIEF anyway we can get it :( And believe me - I am NOT saying lets not help people... mis-using drugs - I have had to go thru withdrawals because I did take my meds to soon :( Its pretty darn hard to know that in that little pill bottle is something that will help your pain - but you cannot take it for another 2-3-5 hours :( When you are in pain so bad that you actually DREAD walking to the bathroom 10 steps away...even 20 more minutes of that level of pain feels like forever :( I just had to comment on this video...its such a shame that people who JUST WANT RELIEF...are being labeled drug seekers - junkies - addicts... and yes - we ARE all of those things but its not because we are looking for a recreational high...we just want to be able to sit...stand...eat...without hurting! Can you imagine walking up every morning and going to bed every night ....knowing you are not going to feel relief from pain? Imagine going thru your life with a toothache - headache or that acute pain you feel when you twist the wrong way... stub your toe, slam your hand in the car door... cos thats what a lot of chronic pain patients deal with :( And I promise...I am not exaggerating ... I just felt so bad for this man...I don't know if its a re-inactment or true video ... but this happens... cos it has happened to me ... and I have broken Harrington rods in my back :( You can literally see there is something wrong in and around my spinal cord...one of the nerve centers of the body...anyone with half a brain is going to know...this hurts ... BUT an intern at Jewish Hospital in Ohio said she was going to have to label me a drug seeker... if I asked for my pain meds one more time :( I was in the hospital, laying flat on my back in a coma for 4-5 weeks when she said this to me ... I had rang the nurse station 3 times in 4 hours to get my meds... when the intern came in, I thought she could help me - I had already missed one dose of pain meds... but yet - because I told her how I had asked for the meds three times...she said I was a drug seeker :( I guess its easier to call me a drug seeker than to say "oh my ma'am - those nurses are really slacking off! They should have been with you within an hour!" I have 2 daughters that are in the nursing field...I know how hard they work...so I am not normally one to complain .... but when you have been in chronic pain for 41 years...I think...you have a right to not complain but speak up ... And I'm gonna ... even if its the last thing i do :(
Laura Coates boy oh boy... you just don’t know how much you have helped me right this very moment.... Today is a really bad day 😞 and to be honest... I don’t know if it’s that my pain is worse OR if I am just having a day where I am frustrated because I’ve had pain most every day since July 1977....that’s when the wreck happened.... Hmmm...you know what? That’s the first time I’ve ever said that in all these years.... I wish I could say that I feel better now that I said it...but I don’t. 😞 I just wanted to say thank you so very very much honey for taking a moment to reply to me...it REALLY did help me...I was sitting here having a pity party for myself because I feel like I should NOT have to lay here suffering again when there is something to help me 😞 unfortunately it’s opioids...and I was thinking about how I am pretty much out of luck because NO ONE CARES 😔 And Laura... Regrettably... YOU are a rare bird honey... GOD-how I wish the medical field could find what cell, gene, component....is it that you have...that makes you genuinely care about... a stranger.... another person who is suffering needlessly 😩😟... Cos I assure you-not everyone has this component in their heart 😒 Thank you so very much.... I know there is something super special about MOST drs & nurses .... I totally know some people go into it for the money.... but I also still do believe for the majority of those in the medical field... It’s “a calling “ and you are DEFINITELY one of those “called “ 😍 Some people call folks like you....”an angel “ 😇 Thank you for reminding me that SOME people DO care about a person suffering... But their hands are tied 😔
Kenneth Simbapuppyeyes yes I just recently tried kratom myself and I tell you...had I not had the kratom.... I would have absolutely definitely ended up in the hospital from pain and WD symptoms....😞 Isn’t it absolutely horrible that I could have died....when only 3-4 blocks away from me was something that could have kept me alive BUT because others mis-use it....my husband’s wife- my sons mother-and my grandsons grandma....may have to die? Am I insane...or should the medical field...do whatever it takes even IF for the moment... to give me some little bit of a quality of life ...until they can figure out what to do for my situation? I mean heck.... For now... Put me on whatever.... Poke me with whatever.... Make me lay... TOTALLY flat for an hour on a cold hard table....while they stick a THICK needle into my spine and PUSH this cold fluid into my system....cos I’ve had to do that ( it’s called epidural) 😞 31 times.... But I’m sorry...I’m rambling.... Laura...you just really made me smile and realize that there really are people who do care-their healing hands are just tied 😞 Laura...thank you sweetheart for the work you TRY to do...and please....give your hubby the biggest best kiss and hugs ever...when he finally gets home today.... Tell him thank you for doing the work he does AND .... For staying with a partner with chronic pain 😞 Let’s face it Laura.... Unfortunately most people would not stay with people like us.... But thank goodness....we got lucky and we got men who genuinely honor those words “ I do “. 🥰 BUT I’m betting He got himself one heck of a great woman...so what’s some chronic pain issues when....like our hubbies....they got themselves some pretty darn good women 😻
Yes! I feel like I've been beat up every morning when I wake up. I'm at an 8 all the time. 38 years of my chronic pain with a laundry list of medical issues! You get to a breaking point to the point where you PRAY to God to just END the suffering! God bless you hon! 💗
I was taken off opioids by the policy change within the Veteran's Administration. The Veteran's Administration had kept me on timed-release Morphine for fifteen years. Without it, I am in too much pain to exercise, and I find it difficult to get through my daily activities. The people who took their prescription medications as directed were never the problem. It was the addicts who were the problem.
Unfortunately, that's not so cut and dry. I've witnessed people who aren't addicts get addicted and mess their life up... I've witnessed addicts realize that pain meds are like treating a gunshot wound with a very small band-aid. Everything is circumstantial and perceptual. Hard for me to judge since I live in a glass house. Love and blessings to you all!!!
After my injury I went into physiotherapy. I remember the physiotherapist said some patients need pain medication so that they can get to the clinic and do the exercises. In addition often the exercises will aggravate your chronic pain so again pain medication is helpfull. He also said if the injury and pain causes you to get to deconditioned that you could go from using a cane to a walker, from a walker to a wheelchair, from a wheelchair to a bed. So pain medication is important to help keep you active and doing your exercises. I'm sorry veterans are denied the medical care and medication they need. They got no problem giving veterans loads of psychiatric medication for their PTSD and DEPRESSION so why deny them medication for PHYSICAL PAIN.
I feel bad for patients with ms, and sickle cell anemia patients due to this illness the painful experience of all types of races not just blacks and I was tested for this last year and thankfully I don't have it at all. Elijah mom called my clinic and told them to test me for 🤮 sickle cell anemia that's so sweetie she is.
That is such BS. They should have at least offered you suboxone or grandfathered you into a program where they continued to prescribe them. The government and the cdc fucked up big time by cutting people off
I've had 14 surgeries after two accidents being hit as a pedestrian and then on my motorcycle. The first pain clinic was actually really good, they did doses that worked, and we also tried and used different therapies to help with back pain especially. I was kicked out after I had surgery and the surgeon called in a low dose I guess to treat the new temporary pain from the surgery. I didn't ask for the meds, I didn't doctor shop, and just because he called it in without really talking to me about it, the clinic accused me of going to multiple doctors and being a drug seeker. Common sense would usually dictate that people don't run out and have major surgery to get some Lortab 5's when they get oxy 30's from the pain clinic. The government and health care have really caused problems for legit patients. It's no wonder street drug use is off the charts.
@@CFernndz17 thank you for the nice words, the only ones who should be sorry are ones that hit me and the ones that are making my life harder by enforcing laws that only punish the patients who need relief and were following the rules.
I had a pain medication prescribed for me by the ER (that my son accidentally picked up for me) but since I have a pain management contract all I had to do was bring the unopened bottle to my pain doctor. Once they saw I wasn't double dipping everything was great! They destroyed the pills and we went on with our visit.
This is not how it happens. As soon as you ask for a pain med you are treated with suspicion. No as soon as you complain about chronic pain doctors look at you like you're a junkie. And god forbid if you refuse to comply with what the doctor tells you to wave bye buy to pain relief.
Alert: If your doctor ever talks to you like this , leave immediately and go to another doctor. Or at least get your meds and never come back. This doctor is not even on your side.
my doc had a baby. she was good. the new one sounds a lil like him here what the hell can I do . she likes the opiate vacation, I told her I'm not ready I might have to get ready this is awful to be in pain and need meds
Bob Koss I think a few people are missing that this is clearly an example of talking to a patient who was breaking laws/not being straight up. But the stories in the comments, man, I’m sorry. No judgement here, I did dope for ten years...I just landed here doing research for a video on Sobriety & Surgery for my youtube
@@bobkoss280 yep - you are exactly right. And I don't understand this ... we are made to accept whatever the medical field THINKS is right for us... They don't listen to us - not really - once you say "I'm on _____ " Fill in the blank with the name of any narcotic :( I HATE taking pills/meds of any kind... I'm pushing 60 and I've never been arrested for anything ... no dui - no drug traffics - not hing...but yet, because I have had chronic pain for 41 years ... and older now and just can't handle it like I did when I was younger....and because I have broken harrington rods in my back ... I am called drug-seeker,addict ... lazy!? it is terrible what chronic pain patients have to live with on top of their pain :(
@@LongformJaunt "Breaking laws/not being straight up" is not a sufficient enough solo-criteria for addiction diagnoses when you consider the reality of what it means to be a pain patient prescribed opioids. www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0955395919300234?fbclid=IwAR3mFuSsA2_59eeD56AmWnaMg5lcxFT-NzKzwQbxmeAnEqZ_eVpDSKY155U academic.oup.com/painmedicine/article/19/7/1302/4839255
God....this DR needs to work for the VA! 6 years on same dose and they stopped refilling Med. Someone, the Fed Govt, is pushing all the opioids out of anyone's hands. Totally irresponsible.
The opposite of addiction isn't sobriety but human connection. And of course there is a difference between addiction vs tolerance vs dependence, and lots of people get these mixed up.
It's incredibly amazing how they manage to convince people that detox is so great and that if you just get off it, why all the sudden your pain will just go away. If you're only 100% addicted, then maybe yes however, people like me who have severe and chronic pain from a moderately severe scoliosis, taking me off medications would kill me. I'm happy to have the medicine that I do have, it's very helpful. I’m curious if this doctor has done an MRI or CT on patients like George? I found out I have moderately severe spinal stenosis, severe scoliosis (56 degrees) and multiple bulging discs as well as a totally straight neck, no curvature (birth defect), I’ve also had stress fractures at the tailbone and all of those things cause me tremendous pain.
I’ve been taking a regular morphine and breakthrough meds for over ten years. I just started with new doctor at theVA. He took me off everything and gave me one ridiculous muscle relaxer to take at night. The pain has taken over. After years of reasonable control now I’ve reverted to no function and pain controlling my every movement. These doctors have no idea what life is like in constant pain.
Detox isn’t a walk in the park, but in this case the doctor realizes the problem, the guy wants more and more and he’s just going to keep increasing his tolerance and make it harder to stop. It’s not like he’s asking for his first script.
@@AmerijamAcres I agree. There is no quality of life in constant pain. My Doc would never give me an opoid and I have had a terrible life following a traumatic injury (Broken back, paralysis).
If only this were a real life example of how doctors behave with pain patients. In all my years as a pain patient I've never had any doctor treat me as patiently and kindly as this example. I've been taken off pain meds cold turkey after years of being at the same dosage and doing very well on them with minimal side effects, put back on them again because the next doctor is appalled at how I was treated before. Then that doctor retires and a brand new one says "we've discovered pain meds don't help anybody" and so they take me and all their other hapless patients back off of them to our dismay on account of we are living proof that they do, in fact, help so what is this "we've" discovered" business? Then if you go to another doctor you are drug seeking and a "high risk".Bloody hell, if these doctors can't get their shit together enough to be consistent with what they do and that's all fine and good then I don't know why they think we, the pain patients, can't make a mistake or two along the way. God forbid we have a bad pain day and snap at them,lest we be put in the "bad patient" category and the terrorist watch list for drug seeking dope fiends.
+Meg Kampen It's the DEA that has the doctors scared to prescribe narcotics. It's absolutely ridiculous! The government has way too much control over our lives. They need to let the doctors make the medical decisions, and prescribe what they think is best, whether it's a narcotic or not. The so called, "War On Drugs" isn't working. It's actually making things worse, in my opinion. Drug abusers are gonna get high no matter how much the DEA/Government cracks down on doctors prescribing pain pills. It's just gonna turn a lot of people who are truly seeking pain relief into heroin addicts or they'll be buying pain pills illegally from drug dealers. But, our government knows this. They don't care! We, as citizens our nothing but a big experiment for them. It's just population control, and truth be told the government distributes the most heroin, cocaine, etc out into our communities, especially the more lower socioeconomic communities. Most people call me crazy, but I call them misinformed!
Deanna Parsons The doctors could do something about it if they all banded together but they don't care. My doctor retired without telling anyone. I was scheduled in with a nurse practitioner and she cut me off cold turkey and then lied about it, The old doctor left one more subscription and all I had to do was come in a get it when we called. When we did she took it and said she gave me my last prescription but she didn't. They said they would find out what happened to the 2 missing prescriptions but they never called back and haven't returned any of our phone calls. Thye also prescribed these benzodiaphines to all the pain patients to help them with withdrawal. They just gave it to us the pharmacy when I got my last prescription . It was never discussed with me or anything, Just giving us stuff without knowing why and people who don't need and have already found a doctor could easily sell it. I just know that most doctors treating me for pain and been very cruel and nasty to me. I know what the government is doing. I knew as soon as I found out I wasn't getting a cost of living decrease on my disability check for 3 years. When I did it was 10 dollars. The same as 25 years ago. My check has been 800 and something for the last 8 years. They just closed down the last pain clinic in Seattle that accepts medicare. Now we have to pay out of pocket and there is a 2 month wait and they don't give you anything on your first visit. They know we can't afford it. Take money from the most vulnerable people in society. That's socialism. Didn't Hitler do that?. Yes! They said there would be death panels and people laughed, We are useless and we are a burden on society so it's time to get rid of us.I don't now what I am going to do. We called an old doctor in Bellevue and he helped me out by writing me 2 prescriptions when he found out what happened to me. My pain is two severe and chronic. I would have to commit suicide if I didn't get help. I am scared. Scared and traumatized by the pain.I can't believe how evil this woman is. What are you going to do? I don't want to be in this country anymore. I never voted for Obama.I am to sick to move or fight.
+Deanna +Meg.. I think you are both right with regards to the DEA. I have lost many friends who are fellow pain patients. Some have committed suicide and some have died from taking heroin. Prescritpion grade pain pills are so expensive on the dark net that most can't afford it so they have to turn to heroin which just rots you out from the inside. I miss them so much. And yes, the DEA knows and they do not care. I am not so sure about doctors. I've noticed the new ones are being taught on the educational end that pain medications don't work so they see no reason to prescribe them. I think that many don't care but I also think many do care but believe what they are told and taught not to trust their patients word for how effective they are because we're "drug seeking". Have either of you tried Kratom? It's okay and might be able to help you get through this until you can find a good doctor. The DEA tried to make it a schedule 1 controlled substance on September 31 but backed down when thousands of pain patients contacted their local reps about how they use it for pain relief. It's an herb and it is the most powerful pain reliever I have found otc. It's not as good as a prescription but it's not as weak as all the other herbs out there. It packs a punch and is reasonably priced. Currently it is still something almost anyone can get on the internet. It's illegal in two or three states but if you aren't in those states, it may be worth a try. Check out my channel here or pm me for more info if you are curious :)
Yes, I agree. It does seem like if all the Drs would band together something could be done about this problem. I'm not sure what I'm gonna do. Honestly, I'm just so sick about it all because my pain is a ten almost everyday, and I don't know what i'll do when I'm completely cut off my meds.
Like to see this dr walk more with level 10 pain 24/7!!!! Taking away the pain meds is totally wrong. My doctor want to switch me to doing monovie. She is taking all her patients and putting them on it saying that California won't let us have our prescriptions! I could care less about getting a high. I want to stay away from pain period! Juice def is not going to take pain away. I cleanse myself and not take them for days and then go back on them. Without the meds the pain is so bad that suicide crosses your mind. I'm tired of pain patients being treated like a drug addicts. We're not! If I have to live with no relief i won't be living! I have tried tons of non opiod meds and they don't work and physical therapy doesn't work. Damage is not reversible so then what. Pain patients need to get together and protest!
I completely agree with your entire response 110 %!! I'm a chronic pain patient and yeah,the gov't continues to treat us chronic pain patients like street drug addicts.
I agree!! This doc has ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT TO DO WHAT HE DID !!! I DON'T BLAME HIM THIS MAN FOR LEAVING THIS STUPID ASS DOCTOR !! I feel so sorry for this man because the horrific withdrawal he'll experience by quitting cold turkey off of these opioids will be living hell!! Opiods is perhaps is the most painful withdrawal over any other drug-legal and illegal
Andrew Porter I don't know, I can't see anyone that would pay $30 for one pill and what would an old guy like this know about selling them. Who would do business with the elderly gentleman. Without killing him for his stash. That's just bad advise. I know you probably mean well but in this case it's bad advise.
I agree, chronic pain is REAL. And there's the other dr's out there who are getting the big kick backs and don't care if your destroying yourself. Your suffering just makes their bank accounts BIGGER, while we unfortunately don't really have the right medical alternatives. It's hell living with chronic PAIN. Opioids it is, pain management- joke
Dam.. I look at all these videos and read all the comments about how bad people get treated at the pain clinics. I guess I'm fortunate to have a pain doctor who really listens to me and treats me good.
Anthony you're lucky. Most pain management docs do treat you with suspicion as soon as you walk through the door. They assess your pain, and then refer you to about 3 other doctors to do the same. They send you to get an mri, then they send you to a neurologist then they give you another appointment with them. It can only be the doctors they're in partnership with, and if you miss any of the appointments they set for you they stop helping you. If you refuse something in their treatment they stop helping you. They will give you drugs at first, but they start treating you with suspicion based on a drug they gave you in the first place. Then they stop giving them to you all together
Anthony amen to that! I've been with my Doc 11 years and I pray for his safety and health daily. My doctor has to turn folks away unfortunately because he has to cover his ass. He will only take patients who are basically going to die as a result of what is causing the pain and they have to be able to provide documentation of it. It saddens him to have to turn people away but at least I don't worry about the DEA crashing through the office! Take care!
Hass C my pain management dr reccomended a pharmacy for me when after 6 years of being treated fine at wallgreens i got a jerk pharmasist that said "your dr must be a quack! Im not filling this!" i replied with" look him up hes one of the top 200 anestiesiologists in the country!" dude still said no, so i called the office and they sent me to an awesome pharmacy that also requires documentation, but at least im treated well. Take care!
Casandra Bullock last yr i got Vicodin for my wisdom tooth and took it to a local pharmacy cause codeine made me nauseous and she said i can't give u this cause it has the same ingredients as Vicodin does I said this helps me more and doesnt get me sick I had to argue with them til they finally did it
Today, I am so thankful to the Lord for my humane , compassionate and kind pain doctor. I’ve been with him for 12 years. Amazing highly respected doctor among his peers. There’s nothing we can’t talk about and no questions I’m afraid to ask. Once again just very thankful ❤
From Singapore here. for last 20 years after accident that took away my T1, been enduring the pain as nothing works till 3 years ago when i was oxy but the doctor stopped last year .... those 2 years were the happiest days when i dont have to struggle every single second ...
This video makes me cringe, it's every pain patients worst nightmare come true. Too many of us have been treated this way by doctors who haven't got a damned clue what they are talking about. Too many doctors see drug seeking or addictive behavior in every patient who wants opioids. Besides, it's best to deny opioids to pain patients, for our own good, right? Except it causes brain damage. All for our own good. That's why pain patients have sleep problems, why we can't focus or decide or remember, we are too exhausted from fighting the pain. Our brains are on full pain alert 24/7 and our nerves get rewired from all the pounding pain signals our broken bodies are sending. The studies showing morphine "doesn't help" only concerns some patients who reacted that way, not all people who take opioids experience this. This has been used as a "feel good" excuse for doctors who know, deep down, that they should manage pain and not allow people to suffer despite the political climate. It's bull shit, but they keep saying it, like that will eventually make it true. We get to suffer for something other people, drug abusers, did. It's not fair or for our own good.
D. Moore Thank you D. Moore. Well put truth. It’s out there but not too damn popular. I wish more of societies weakest could fight better for their rights like others. I believe it will take time...maybe a bunch of time but this will one day swing back the other way..you know, like eggs bad..cholesterol...no no, eggs good. Butter bad...no no, butter good, margarine bad. These people have their heads up their asses when publishing all the bullshit and I’m so glad people call them on it. The data can be skewed with just the mention of a few words or unorthodox testing..and people believe it ‘because they (the so-called experts)say so’...SHEEPLE!!! Most are too lazy to do their own true research and the more hype and sensationalism in the media makes it even truer!! HAH!! BS!! Good~day! ✌️☮️🌻 💜🌱🌿🍃❤️ 🙏
thank you. maybe his pain wasn't treated in the first place and cause he was honest here's what happens. we all know what happens and we all live in fear. thank god I been able to be compliant even when my pain went out of control. you can't say anything-this is what happens to you and we all know it and if you're really in pain god help us all help them educate the docs on the truthof pain, addiction, tolerance, treating real pain.
Did you hear the part about the patient going to two other doctors for the same meds *and* calling his prescription as having been stolen? This patient broke his opiate agreement and lied to the doctor's face multiple times Being thrown out of a program for breaking the rules of the program is a consequence of his own actions.
@@DMoore-em7is come on get off the bullshit all your doing is replacing one drug for an another....you all dr.s and big pharma are the reason why there is an huge epidemic in the U.S.its all about $$$$$.its a fucking joke
Mr primary doctor was clam digging and when he pulled the clam gun out of the wet sand he immediately felt a sharp pain and pop in his lower back. Went to the ground and couldn't get back up. They couldn't even get an ambulance down to him due to the soft sand. They had to back board him about a half mile in excruciating pain. He lost his bowels and bladder too. He had surgery the following day. He is still in chronic pain today because the fusion is not working. He does have sympathy for pain patients now.
I think before they pass med school, they should have to feel what a broken leg feels like, and then they will have something to reference it to. LedHed Pb 207.20 🎶 🎸 🎹
As a CPP myself, if I sat my happy ass in the exam room and the doctor told me that he found out that I'd been "doctor shopping" and prescribed more pain meds, I wouldn't have a pain management doctor any more. Further more, if I also sat there repeatedly saying how I needed something stronger, the way this guy did, I'd be cut off immediately as well! This patient is a "drug seeker".. the very kind who makes legitimate patients like myself and thousands of others look bad. Without going into horrid detail, I have a connective tissue disorder and chiari malformation (you know, that condition where your cerebellum falls out of your skull into your spinal canal), and now my pain management team is force tapering me from my opioid pain meds. Here's the kicker though... IF the lower amount of doses stop working, they'll put me on a higher opioid pain meds than what I'm on!🤦♀️So, cut me off of something that works, I'm not addicted, and I'm mostly functional(even though I'm still disabled), just to FORCE me to take something that will make me non-functional, and potentially not work as well. THIS is what happens when government controls what our doctors do.
If you take opioids your addicted, so stop with with the virtue signaling you fool nobody, you don't know how another pp feels ,what makes your pain so much worse, delusional addict.
I hate the pain scale. Lately I have been thinking about using it on them! How is your day dr? On scale from 1 to 10 how good would you rate your day? Does anything make it worse? Maybe the day itself is the problem. Honestly!
Doctor: “So you’re in a lot of pain because the pain medication that I have been giving you was never strong enough to begin with? Okay…But now that I’ve got you addicted to the pain meds, I’m going to stop them altogether. But I don’t want you to think of it as ‘Cold Turkey’, because I’m gonna (insert air quotes) prescribe joining a support group and start practicing meditation.” Patient: “I’m 65 years old. I’ve served my country. I have lead an honest life. I’ve worked hard my entire life. Along the way I’ve sustained some serious, debilitating injuries. And now I’m in constant pain. In fact, I’m in more pain now than when I first started seeing you. And you asked me to rate my pain, which just sitting here is at an 8 out of 10. But ya know doc…I think talking to a bunch of strangers in a musty old church basement, sharing cookies and coffee, is just what the doctor ordered…pardon the pun. And then when I get home, I’ll light some incense, turn the lights down low and do some Hari Krishna chants. Hell, I’ll be good as new in no time. Thanks doc; you just changed my life!” Patient’s Spouse: Arrives home and smells something strange in the air. “Hmm…That is a familiar smell…but…but why would THAT smell be INSIDE my home?” Suddenly realizing what that smell is, she rushes downstairs and finds her husband of 50 years sprawled out in his recliner with his brains spattered all over the wall. Then, standing with tears streaming down her face, in the gunpowder filled room, she finds a note: “I can’t live with this pain any longer.” Doctor: “What time is my tee time at the club? Sure am looking forward to going to my lake house this weekend! But wait…gotta write myself a prescription for my back pain before I go. Sure is good to be me! Hell, I don’t even have a back injury….prescribing medication to myself is just one of the perks of being a doctor! And people say doctors act like they are God. Hell, I don’t ACT like I’m God; I AM GOD! Now, where did I put my keys to my Jaguar? Don’t bother calling me this weekend, I’m gonna be busy enjoying life!” As a cop, I responded to this EXACT call. Now that I’m retired due to breaking my back on the job, and being in constant pain, I now better understand that man’s dilemma. And to this day, I still see his sad and lonely widow around town. She’s now in her mid 80s, closer to 90. I just shake my head in sorrow and anger when I think of how that “doctor” changed her life forever.
i have chronic pain been in a wheelchair 20 years im 35 and my at home primary doc just cut me off today for no reason on hdyrocodone 10s which i have been taking correctly for four years now idk wtf im gonna do and ive never seen a pain management doctor so idk im in pain all day every day i have scars up and down my body metal in my back and about 30 surgeries to account for i live in chronic pain and she told me no more meds and didnt tell me why or even give me any alternative also ive told her for five months my pain is getting worse in my hips from idk sitting down for 20 years and i asked her to up my pain meds she said she cannot. what? why?
@@veronicasmith2909goto prescriber check up. Find a doctor that prescribes a lot of hydrocodone. That didn’t get locked up. There are good pain management doctors out there.
I've been on oxycodone since 2010. I have Harrington Rods and a clamp in my spine. I've tried marijuana to hydrocodone and nothing works like oxycodone.
I was exactly where this guy is except I didn’t cheat or double dr.. I was on opioids for 25 years or more. The idea of going off the opioids scared the hell out of me. 3 weeks ago, I started the suboxone microdosing and it has been a godsend. I highly recommend it no matter what kind of pain your in. I have nerve damage from multiple disc protrusions and operations. My pain is under control. I still have the numbness, stiffness and weak leg but I can handle it because the pain is so much better. I’m 70 years old and suboxone is giving me my life back. If you’re on opioids for pain, buprenorphine is the answer.
As a friend of my who is a doctor has stated, withdrawal from opiates for an addict is a lesson, don’t abuse opiates ever again, but to a pain patient it’s torture.
My doctor is saying the same crap to me! I told him that it’s the same pain I was having during the whole time I couldn’t find any medicine to even touch the pain… They are basically trained liars at this point.
I had the best question in history after my dr said we only treat symptoms - HOW DO YOU INTEND TO REMOVE A MEDICATION THAT CAUSES THE SYMPTOMS THAT IT TREATS IF DRS ONLY TREAT SYMPTOMS. To me it proves chronic pain patients lack endorphins and simply require the substitute consistently and they are the Jekyll Hyde causing more pain for profits.
@@anti-ethniccleansing465 I have taken Opoids for years. It can cause a greater sensitivity to pain. This is what they are referring to when suggesting it caused pain. There is a tradeoff with all medicine Unfortunately for severe and chronic pain opiods work best.
I had a baby & got a second degree perineal tear. Which means, i tore muscle & had to get stitches. I had lortabs while in the hospital & was discharged with none. I took less than recommend which i usually try to do so i can wean off. I was afraid to ask for more & so I trusted her judgement. I threw up for a week & discontinued breastfeeding because of it. (Lortabs are safe while nursing by the way) It hurts to walk, or sit because of the downward pull gravity has on my stitches. It’s been 5 weeks. I’ve called & was told to soak in a bath or sitz bath. I tried several times & It made it worse. I made it to the doctor because it was just too much & wondered if i had an infection. She said it was normal & I was told to begin light jogging. No paperwork on how to pain manage with meditation or anything. Just start jogging. :) It is of course too late to prescribe me meds now, but I think in the beginning, it was the wrong call to not prescribe them for my first week home. I came here seeking help on how to manage my pain with other methods so I can take care of my little girl & all I get is the view from the doctors point of view. I’m so angry, I could spit. I am not an addict. Im afraid to doctor shop & wouldn’t dare. I have no drug dealer so how could i even become an addict? I’m tired of being afraid to complain to my doctor & so I go home, just about pass out, throw up & have to miss out on nursing my daughter. We trust our doctors but they don’t trust us because of bastards like this. This system sucks.
a soak for a tear or what. that's like my ibuprophen for spinal cancer. why don't they give us a sugar pill. seriously I have some med for pain but I was given ibuprophen for breakthrough cancer pain. you're lucky you don't have a lifelong painful condition or are dying slowly and painfully---cancer lingers for years spreads comes goes who knows anymore. had chemo, radiation, body part removed, much more. in the spine still walking but doesn't always feel too good try and get help. i''m sorry this happened to you also
Peter Wilson 😂😂😂😂😉 so true, so true !!! Even though I am blessed to have an amazing pain management doctor Hey... ( even a blind squirrel can get a nut once in a while ) Anyhow, you don't know how many times I just really truly want to amputate my legs from the waist down. Crushed by a horse, damaged terribly. But what you said was spot on. Poor George, 😕 but..... he did kinda set himself up.....don't get caught looking at other doctors in BIG BROTHERS database.....😜
That sounds like Your Pain Management Doc. as LUCK,and im blessed with one also,, I Out lived the last Pain Management place,,and Im Only 60!! Thanks Lucy
Lucylovewalk I have a Great PM Doctor as well. I feel so Blessed that he is my doctor! On June 2nd. I just had a Medtronic pain pump put in. I'm hoping this will be a positive in treating my pain issues.
I have scoliosis,neck injury's ,lower back injury and hit by a pickup truck. I have learned not to depend on drugs for relief and only take a tylenol or two when it's real bad. I also take vitamins and eat healthy. I stay in bed and hardly move when I know it's getting bad, which can sometimes take 3 days to 3 weeks to heal. Afterwards i'm ok for a while until I have over done myself , then it's back to the bed. I have been doing this for years and will continue to do so , for it is better than surgery or a painful withdrawal , plus I want to feel when I heal. good luck to all those dealing with pain.
for years. are you going to heal to feel cause I'm not . I will die. was supposed to already but didn't maybe it'll take 20yrs, hope not. if when you don't heal aren't going to and what you are going to feel is pain well that is your only choice unless you have pain management w/ the cuts wthdrls etc what is better. a few good day or hours a day or none
read your reply. I agree. I have spinal cancer and didn't die as expected. you got it pain management cuts w/drwls can't tell em. what to do. I know what a lot are doing . try not to. be grateful for the help you get for now, if you add to the prob you get thrown off. the state tells what to give and it's not enough,pain management is hard today.. still some help ok. have no answers. some docs in calif. etc are learning about pain and educating but few can afford or get the txs yet he talks about.for pain and for detox w/ out bad w/drawl if you get in trouble. other docs won't advocate or stand up. don't want dea knocking on their door before the good ones really get the word out. the txs available to others than the few rich or poor that were there for research.
"opioids actually increase your pain" holy shit this guy is 100% a actor... so when you break your leg or get hit by a car and have a crushed pelvis imagine the doctor coming into your room and you are screaming in agony and he says nah no morphine for you it may increase your pain!! Wow this shit makes me so scared to get old and have some chronic pain issue only to be treated like a junkie.... Maybe he went to a few other doctors to see if they can help or recommend something different.. Your basically telling the guy to hit the street for your pharmaceuticals... nice job doc no wonder there is a heroin/opioid epidemic ravaging America...
If you are under 60 years of age always ask for Ritalin when asking for pain medication. Ritalin is the solution for all addiction except porn addiction
He didn’t mean right after you take it, he means your pain goes up because your tolerance to the pills is going up, so when you require more pills your baseline pain goes up.
lortab can actually cause rebound pain used to take 6 per day but morphine saved my life I have tried it all been through it all and no doctor treats people like this but mine is close
It's actually true. Opioids, like any foreign substance in the body, are toxins and toxins cause enhanced glial cell activity. Glia are the most abundant cell in the body. When the glia are excited by the presence of toxins, they release substances that increase neuronal excitability, leading to pain enhancement, including an array of proinflammatory cytokines which, in turn, trigger an increase in the activity of pain-signaling neurotransmitters. Further, from my reading, the introduction of opioids activates a protein in the body called TLR4, which, in turn, also signals the production of inflammatory cytokines. There's a very elaborate, complex system of chain reactions that takes place in the body that leads to enhanced rebound pain during and (for ~3 weeks) after the cessation of opioid therapy (the ~3 week estimate was based on a rat study and was personally experienced by me). So, yeah, opioid-induced hyperalgesia is very real. Still, opioids have their place in pain management and many patients live productive, active lives for decades on steady, never increased doses of opioid medication. Others do need increases over the years, some due to genetic anomalies, others due to the natural process of tolerance (which glia are also involved with), but they never get addicted and they get pain relief and they lead normal, productive lives. So I am pro-opioid. These drugs are a necessity for adequate, effective, humane pain management. #DontPunishPain #endopiophobia
i started hanging drywall at age 17yrs old now im 46yrs now my body feels like i been thru down a 2nd story building i think i would better off dead than this i HATE to see the morning come because i know what im in store for that day
the problem is they think evrrybody is getting dependent of pain meds! well of course their getting dependent on the pills because they have a pain problem!!! besides if your taking something like lortab you dont have much of an issue with pain because that stuff wouldnt get rid of a headache as far as im concerned and tylenol is the most worthless there is!!!
Seven times he stated he needed something stronger. I know docs that upon getting that letter from the insurance company wouldn't have even given him other options...they would have said, "bye bye" and breathed a sigh of relief when he walked out the door.
OK I've been in chronic pain management for 20 years and this guy is NOT taking them for the right reasons. no.1 he doc shopped at 2 other drs 2.he called in middle of month saying his pills were "stolen"😌 3.must have said at least ten times "I need something stronger" 4.wouldnt even listen when the dr offered to taper him and put him on Suboxone(I'm actually AMAZED he offered that! my dr, you violate your pain agreement,unless you have a good explanation, you get discharged! if he would have just played by the rules he'd still have his doctor
This is an educational video making it appear that everyone is like George and all pain doctor are so nice. Any other doc would throw you out on you ear for doctor shopping. The doc said that his door is always open to him if he changed his mind. This is s bullshit video! I believe you are amazed that the doc offered him Suboxone, because in real life, it would not have happen. I got discharged for failing a urine test A false positive or she tampered with the urine test to get rid of me because she said I had no tramadol in my urine for the whole month which is a fucking lie. I need my tramadol. Plus most doctors are not as nice as George's. They treat you like dirt.
dogwomanhere. Absolutely, what is a person to do if their doctor is not helping ? There are only two choices, suffer and let your life slip away or do what you have to do and find medication on the street. It's a no brainer to what a person will choose. The drug dealers are loving this! Herion is back stronger than ever, and it won't be long before the drug cartels are manufacturing their own opiate based pills and they are all over the streets, while they get filthy rich ! Good job guy's!!! Fixed another problem didn't you!!!
Mike Mendillo you hit the nail on the head there for sure!! With the quality of life or actually lack thereof, so many people go to the streets and likely couldn’t care if they died doing so..better than the treatment from some drs. The pain, the indignity..the suffering...is it worth it? 😔😔😖☹️
Steve Turk I changed Doctors not long ago, the best thing I ever did ! If your not getting satisfactory results,, move on ! Don't be afraid ! My new doctor doubled my meds first visit. I told him straight up what was going on and he understood.
Too many physicians like this. Refuse to move to interventional medicine yet they’ll feed you this crap that no pills are better. My choice between addiction and chronic pain, is addiction 100%. The fact that you have people who only understand the literature behind this, making decisions, is part of the problem. Physicians in North America need to start thinking outside the box. I’ve seen too many physicians that just want to go through the motions and that’s it. A lot of people don’t realize there’s a whole realm of interventional options that are far superior to pills, and don’t come with the risks.
I was in the same position as this guy and 2 months ago was put on Suboxone. My pains gone from an 8 even on huge doses of of morphine and then fentanyl. My pain is now an average of 4-5. I'm so much happier! FYI I am on this for chronic pain, not as a drug abuser.
These are actors! This is an educational video! Yes it appears he's doctor shopping and the doctor thinks so too and abusing his drugs and trying to do what is best for him. His pain level is only a 9 without pain meds and mine is 20+. The doctor is so so nice and reasonable, but in real life they treat you like shit and accuse you of dealing and or being an addicted and cut you off cold turkey like what was done to me. I had to call my old doctor and he gave me a months supply of tramadol. I will be out in 2 weeks. I don't think he will do it again because he is not a pain doctor and I am poor and can't pay out of my pocket and there is a 2 month wait at one stupid pain clinic. You are lucky that your pain was just a eight and that it helped you, but I was given no options.I was sent a letter telling me my doc had retired. I made an app. The nurse practitioner cut me off cold turkey and never called back with the pain doc referral that accepts my insurance. She also told me in the long run pain meds don't work at all and get alternative treatments and pay out of pocket.
Meg Kampen the pain scale doesn't go over 10 therefore if you think of the worse pain possible you are a 10. I have been at a 10. When I broke my back and my whole vertebrae crushed and I went into shock because the pain was so bad. I've had chronic pain for years now so you don't need to lecture me about doctors. If I get treated in anyway disrespectful I change doctors. I would be saving for a pain doctor quick smart. If your pain was at a ten tramadol would do nothing. I've been on 110mg of morphine and oxycodone for breakthrough pain and some days my pain was at an 8. Now I'm on Suboxone for chronic pain (in Australia) my pain has halved. They won't put you on it tho if you haven't been on long term opiods that are not giving you much relief and also on a high dose for your pain. I guess your probably in American?
Lia Greene I am not just on Tramadol I wish..That doesn't do anything on it's own. I don't care what the pain scale says.What happened to you in the accident was beyond a 10.We have a 10+ scale and beyond in America. I'm sure they didn't just give you Suboxone when you first had that accident. That isn't what we are talking about. We are talking about what is happening know. Let me rephrase everything. I wish I was in that actor's position with a pain level as low as his and a kind doctor willing to work with him and he refuses even after doctor shopping which would get anyone else thrown out on their ear.. I wish I could find a doctor like that in WA.There is a 10+ and I am beyond that. Without pain medication I am screaming at the top of my lungs 24/7 in bed week after week.I have been suffering from PTS for years now because of it My pain started as a nine. I wish I was a nine. I know what a nine feels like and I know what it feels like when it feels like someone is sticking a knife in your chest and twisting it twisting it back and forth and disemboweling me every second of the day, electrocuting me and not sleeping for 3 solid days. I have been on daily morphine injections combined with other meds but they won't give it to me in WA State I have a 2 week supply left of my meds, tramadol being only one pf them. If I don't get some help, what choices do I have? Yes! It's that bad. I am glad things are working for you. You are one of the lucky ones. Your pain is now managed so please don't act like everyone else and tell me I don't hurt as much as I think I do. You can ask my roommate. He has seen me suffer. He has seen me denied as he took me from on ER to the next.. Please have some empathy for those who are not as lucky as you.This is America not Australia. They are cutting most if not all pain patients. All pain clinics will be discontinuing opiates for long teem use I wish I had the option of walking out of a pain specialist's office after being treated like shit but I am at their mercy and we don't have many left in this state. They are being closed down and heroin dealers are seeking out pain patients while heroin deaths rise.. Just watch the suicides rise in this God forsaken Country. I was referring to the video being fake. The doctors are not that nice especially to someone who has been doctor shopping. It is a propaganda video. Remember, everyone is different. Pain is different. What works for one person may not work for another. I don't even know what you are using Suboxone for. They wouldn't give it to anyone here but only temporarily for withdrawal of opiates and since they now consider Tramadol an opiate I guess I qualify, but only temporarily. Are you pain med free now since this drug is meant for withdrawal? I wasn't giving you lecture. I was basically telling you the video is bullshiit. I don't know why you took it personally.This is a witch hunt. You should thank God you live in Australia You should watch some of these other real videos on you-tube and see the suffering that is happening in this country and the deaths from being denied pain medication.
I was put on the 75mcg Fentanyl patch back in July along with Norco 10/325 (up to 6 a day) and it has proven to be a life saver. I also at about a 4-5 now. Tried a few different brands of patches and found out Mylan works the best for me.
Dr. Have you ever read about pseudo addiction will have you ever heard of explain it to your patients and also have you read all the medical information on this for certain amount of time for it to work and slowly he can go back to what was working the best before it was increased to high..... if you consider the opiate that he is on strong when you don't know anything about pain what are they forcing
i was not able to control my meds so they placed a unit under my skin. reload about every 50 days 5yrs. i always was lesspain but about killed me. i am almost clean again pain same. i am unable to say correct words at doc. to be partial dead is very hard and i am large person so i am scary. fading away finally.i use to eat 10/10s from zero. i hate pills more than others for personal. good luck wonder why i was not warned of it or made to understand you can damage body easy and strong pain no leave from it ever. other damage but pain did leave like we all know. i hope i see spring but a hot one from a pumped up cop might be good. i loved my country very much.my grow up family sucked. their i said it.
@ReviewCam Everyone is different. For me, Percocet doesn't work at all...don't feel it. Vicodin or Oxycontin is way better for my moderate pain. Only Dilaudid works for excruciating "I want to die" pain. Hell, I was given IV Fentanyl (never asked for it) in the hospital and it did less than Xanax.
Yeah....well....My wife has had fibromyalgia for 20+ years. I've never doubted her pain-she is absolutely not a "pill person". I have had to prompt her to take her pain meds. I developed spinal stenosis - drugs, fusion, 🎶🎶 All I want to say is you can't really appreciate chronic pain until you experience it yourself. The feeling is impossible to explain rationally. Best wishes/luck to all.
Fibro is either from low Fit D3 to long, being under medicated or EMF allergies (observed only in Sweden) US profits to much off it. See my video what happens if you try and reveal truth/corruption
I’m dealing with spinal stenosis and degenerative disc disease from T2 vertebrae down to my tailbone. My pain management doctor is determined to get me off 5/325 hydrocodone. Prior to that, I was on the fentanyl patch and I weaned myself off of those! I have tried physical therapy and yoga and even meditation, but I am basically bedbound from the pain. I do get an epidural injection once a month but with so much damage and pain all up my spine, the injection (my insurance will only pay for ONE each month), there is no way to control my pain. I get a lumbar injection and the next month, a thoracic injection, so we’re pretty much just chasing the dragon... my doc is stubborn about the TINY 5/325 hydrocodone dose and is about to stop giving me any painkillers. For the record, I only take the hydrocodone when I need it, not every three hours like the prescription reads. Doctors know NOTHING about living with this kind of pain! 🤬
Sorry to say my sad friend but your doctor's giving you a level of pain medicine 325 mg of Tylenol times 3 times a day that's 1000mg will destroy your liver and your kidneys and obviously your doctor doesn't give a crap about your endocrine system hydrocodone 15 mg immediate-release is the blessing from God if you don't abuse it it works awesome, the government's controlling our doctors because in the 80s 90s and 2000's thousands of doctors made millions off overprescribing people I seen the kid in Florida that had a motorcycle accident and was exhibiting no pain and they gave him for 60s add a 20 methadone a month a hundred number five bar Xanax and 120 15 mg immediate-release oxycontin it was a shopping bag full list was 1993 and I hope a lot of those doctors are in jail but the doctors themselves are the ones that caused the opiate epidemic and the Mexican cartels and Biden are allowing the poison to come across the border and kill over 100,000 Americans a year if that's not a crisis than what the hell is a war all about
I have been taking pain medication for 35 years and never got addicted. once I recover from medical issue I stop taking it. its WRONG to make EVERYONE in pain suffer, due to some greedy doctors and a small percentage of the population that gets addicted. More resources should be directed toward helping people but not denying EVERYONE else pain medication.
If anybody's doctor does this to them and could be this cold hearted and calloused about their pain complaints, if they drop you the first thing you need to do is go to the State Licensing Board and file a formal complaint for neglecting your medical care. You need to file a formal complaint against a doctor who would take away pain medication from someone who has a legitimate medical condition. After that, start writing your senators and governors regarding doctors neglecting patients comma and use that doctor's name specifically. If your doctor is on one of those top 100 lists, find where you can write to get him/her off of it. Doctors like this should not have the right to practice.
this is quoted text book teaching for pain providers today. what do you think is gonna hap to you. hope you don't need pain meds cause you will be fucked with. it would make sense to do what you say but it is not the reality in todays world in America. sorry.
U HAVE SEVERE CHRONIC PAIN AND IVE BEEN SO STRESSED ABOUT MAYBE NOT BEING ABLE TO GET MY MEDS I HAVE HAD LOW BACK SURGERY AND NECK SURGERY 3 X AND THE MIDDLE OF MY BACK FEELS BROKE BUT IM FINALLY GETTING AN MRI TO SEE WHATS WRONG PLUS I HAVE OSTEOPEROSIS ARTHRITIS AND FIBRO
How about when Gabapentin is pushed as the cure all, and Gabapentin was the issue, but nobody addressed it? Make the game fair, psychologically analyze physicians as much as patients…🔥🔥🔥
Here’s a true story...dec 2018 I was air-cared from one hospital to another because I had 4 back to back seizures. And didn’t wake up in between them After being in ICU for 5-6 days and then out of it (totally unaware) another 4-5 days in a normal room... I had been intubated catheterized feeding tube and of course a IV... When I finally came to... my back hurt so bad... I rang for pain meds... Within 60-90 minutes I rang the nurse buzzer twice... and I never received medication... A dr and a resident or intern was with him. I said “can you please ask my nurse for pain medication?” The intern/resident said “Ma’am if you ask for pain medication again we are going to label you a drug seeker in your chart!” AND she was rude! She literally raised her voice to me. I started to sob but thank goodness my almost perfect husband was there - he saw how the dr looked at her... and the actual doctor apologized ... within 10 minutes I had pain meds. I have broken Harrington rods in my back BUT I would think even someone with perfect health...if they laid in one of those God awful hospital beds for 10 plus days...their back would be sore to... You sure can tell the people who are in the medical field because it’s truly a calling and the ones who are there for the money 😞 Perhaps medical school needs to add a SEMESTER (not just a class) on compassion... I don’t know...I’m not in the medical field so maybe I just don’t have a clue...but how about rather than treating everyone like a drug seeker...you treat EVERYONE with compassion and just run that risk ... take a chance ... of being decent to the “drug seeker?” In case they are not... ESPECIALLY when the patient has been in ICU and the hospital for two weeks?!?!? What did they think I was going to do...have a pain medication and party down by making the top of the hospital bed go up and down super fast?!?! Grrrr I’m sorry... that’s not even funny... I’m just really getting upset with this “ASSuming” every one who says pain is abusing medication...
ReviewCam That may be, but the Dr shopping is what hurts those of us who are in pain and can't even find a Dr in our area who prescribes them anymore. Not to mention, to get pain meds, you sign a contract stating that you'll not get them from other Drs.
Dr shopping breaks the contract you have to sign to get pain meds. It's guys like this, and there are lots of them, that make it hard for those of us who are actually in real pain. It's getting so that we're all being treated like addicts, and are mistrusted and disrespected by pain Drs.
no one knows how you feel on the inside except for yourself -how can this idiotic doctor sit there claiming that he knows how bad the pain is,yet he knows nothing. i
@@carlahead5072 exactly, but the fact that he's been Dr. shopping and calling in that his medication is been stolen and all that it surely puts you on the black list, if he would have been smarter he would have just stick to that doctor and do it smarter, he still be getting his medication. Once you're cut forget it, when he goes to the next doctor he's immediately going to be red flaged, the next doctor is going to see who your doctor was, check the prescription monitoring program and find out what truly happened. I feel for George but he's screwed.
This is a totally scripted propaganda video, but if that patient were real- yeah, he just needs a stronger dose or a different medication. This is medicine folks, not some dumbed down, hyperbolic and insipid article off the internet. For decades patients doses have been titrated to the level that works for the patient. Actual pain patients that wind up with OUD are far less than 1% of all patients. This is FACT. We are not young people getting high. Throwing the two illnesses together was done to make others money. Everything that has come out of Andrew “ dr. Mengele” Kolodny has been done to enrich himself. The statements he makes about chronic pain patients are so insulting and factually wrong yet the government thinks he can help them win that money grab. These constitutional and human rights abuses cannot continue as they have already killed thousands with their greed.
Great job not just straight out accusing him of lying, but obviously I am in Pain Management and have been for five years myself, and I know that if my doctor saw me picking up prescriptions from other places, she would without a doubt throw me out of the practice immediately and cancel any refills that I might have That’s not abandonment at that point this patient has clearly lied but you’re doing a great job and did a great job of redirecting him and using his desire for the opioids in order to control the visit to avoid him being argumentative really great charisma here great patient interaction love what you did here really I was a counselor for years before a tragic accident left me in a wheelchair and with severe back injuries, and totally blind with a severe brain injury as well however, although I am an opioid user, I am certainly an educator 10:10
If you handled his pain he wouldn’t be doctor shopping. Now you take it away and he probably wished he was dead. Pain Sucks! Thank you CDC. 25 years of pain management and I followed all the rules. Now I am missing work and will soon be on disability. Or I’ll be looking for them online. You ruined my credit and my life CDC.
I hear you. try cancer . want to know what getting really fd is. they need to treat pain better today. addiction=the addicts are having a party while legit pain pts are inhumanely treated.
PS In my hospital record they put me down as a drug seeker for asking my own doctors for help. I want to stress that the medical professionals have been flippant about ignoring my constant pain, take a Tylenol. We don't prescribe opiods for cancer pain.
I’ll stand with you! If you are under 60 years of age, always ask for Ritalin when asking for pain medication. Ritalin is the solution for all addiction except porn addiction!
Let me put my situation out here. I am a pastor and a pain patient. My GP and I had a terrific relationship! I was randomly drug screened and passed every one. No issue. Then.... I go to her for my monthly follow up. She tells me she is getting rid of all of her GP patients and will only focus on weight loss and HRT. Terrific! I have been on the same dosage for years. It works and I can function very well! I ended up finding a new doctor who told me he would not write for pain meds. He leveled with me and told me that every patient my old GP sent him was on some sort of narcotic! Every. Single. One! Whoa! She was terrified of losing her license! She put me through hell and without so much as a kiss my butt. Sorry. She let me down. By the way my new GP told me that based upon my openness and honesty he decided he would write for my pain meds. It is a little less frequent but I can manage. Oh yeah. Here is a short list of why I am in pain. *broken back. T3-5 disks are herniated. *cancer surgery in my neck in 2000. This left a great deal of damage. *spinal stenosis of my C3,4,& 5. 95% closed. *I have had 2 strokes. *I have had numerous dvt’s and pe’s. *nerve damage in both legs. *facial paralysis due to surgery. *and numerous other issues.
If you are under 60 years of age, always ask for Ritalin when asking for pain medication. Ritalin is the solution for all addiction except porn addiction
These comments are ridiculous. As a soon to be doctor, I found this video helpful. 99+% of the time with such situations, the patients in these situations are there for true pain. But that doesn't mean it's clear cut, black and white. Here is something important to note: The medical field sucks at managing pain because we don't have it figured out! But we're trying our best. People do get addicted to these drugs and it's a sad deal. I really don't understand why this video is so upsetting. I'm sure there are bad docs out there, don't get me wrong, but this video is meant to train docs how to change approach with pain management. I am not here to say that pain should be taken lightly. Just that there are situations where knowing how to converse, like the physician does in this video, may save lives.
I hope you managed to become a doctor, this sounds like you gave actual thought to this. As a patient with severe chronic pain from a rare condition that took a long time to diagnose correctly, I have had maybe 10% of my doctors even try to be this compassionate, BUT also, with doctors being increasingly fearful because of the DEA and general crackdown, there are conversations like this happening frequently when they are truly not the appropriate course of action. Years ago, I had to leave my Neuro PhD and move back home because I couldn’t get adequate pain treatment. The more I tried to explain the severity of the pain and that I sought help, the more closed out of treatment I became. These things permanently mentally traumatize patients in addition to the pain they’re suffering. It’s hard to feel charitable or understanding towards the healthcare community when you have been either ignored or victimized or demonized by it over and over. This may be a difficult career conversation for the physician, but this is the patients whole life wrapped up in this interaction. Either they do have a use disorder and need more active help and instead just lost the link to their physician and also like to the med stabilizing them temporarily from turning to less safe alternatives, or they are being physically tortured by their body and are dealing with that and now bot only aren’t getting the increased management needed, but now have none. This increases risk for suicide, turning to illicit drugs, mental health crises, unstable financial situations because of loss of work, divorce and/or loss of child care ability/rights. It seems callous to say the physician JUST (at the worst) has their license under fire, and that does impact their economic stability of course, but at the end of the day, comparatively, the patient is magnitudes more vulnerable in these scenarios and they’re reasonably going to lash out accordingly.
@@ChazinFl1 I wish you well sir! Pain sucks. Sometimes opioids are the optimal approach, sometimes not. It’s complicated and from the sounds of it, you’ve had some bad experiences. I hope you can find some people to help you.
@@McMomfaceplustwowell said! I have chronic back pain and now a failed rotator cuff surgery. Doing my best to deal with it all. I’m unable to do much of anything anymore, but keep trying. Seems the pain just sucks my energy away. I’m 74 y/o, taking Tylenol #2, and physical therapy. So many things I can no longer do. Take care.
The doctor should have confronted him about the "doctor shopping" and ask plain and simple for him to honestly answer if he does that because he feels he is not adequately dosed (which is obviously the case, unless he is selling the pills). Then the doctor should suggest to increase the dosage or switch to a stronger opiate and make sure in return that he has to stop going to other doctors. 10mg of lortab like 3-4 times a day is very low, so no wonder he has to go to several doctors to get a fair dose.
+Giacomo Ferrario Regardless if it's acted, the poin was in cases like this he should be honest and upfront with his doctor and be able to get proper treatment for his pain :)
@@kimmysplayhouse Actually patients do lie to their doctors because they've put them in such an uncomfortable place where telling the truth is one slight misstep away from losing all meds.
That is, in my opinion, the worst approach ever! This guy has already slid down the slippery slope of addiction and is lying and covering up his pill seeking behavior. He is a wholly at risk of full-blown addiction and all its ravaging effects. This Dr handled this perfectly, perfectly. If I was the Dr, I would have pointed out that any new Dr was going to want to consult with him as to his previous treatment and that quite likely, after doing so, would not be willing to write him pain prescriptions either, especially for even stronger meds. This guy has already come under scrutiny of the System, and Databases and his pill seeking behavior is likely over and done. I am in Recovery and have been on the same meds and same dosages for many years. Neither I, nor my Dr would even consider increasing my level of pain meds as to strength or frequency of administration. Either would be a Red Flag for me and my Dr.
He should of put him on ocycodone instead. Vicodin is not that strong anyway it helps with tooth pain but I was on it then I went to oxycodone and I’m on 40 MG a day. It helps more
When I was living in Hong Kong I suffered osteonecrosis of both hips which meant the bone died and shattered into a million pieces. Consequently, my hip dislocated and swung out to the left and started withering. Eventually, I had a hip replacement but whilst waiting for this operation, my doctor was SO worried about the potential addiction of opiate drugs, he didn't prescribe any. Instead they gave me Tramadol, a synthetic opioid type drug that was utterly useless. On a scale from one to ten, i would say my pain was a nine and stayed that way until they blissfully replaced my hip four months later, which was pretty quick compared to a lot of health systems. I would have killed for something to relieve my pain. I even considered trying to buy heroin or ketamine for relief but didn't know anyone to buy the drugs. The funny thing is, as soon as I came back to Australia, my doctor put me on methadone whilst I await another hip replacement.
Methadone was the first medicine that helped me after a year of trying a lot of nonsense drugs post a failed back surgery. The next medicine that helped even more was oxycodone. Now my doctor is taking me off of my medicines and is effectively trying to make me commit suicide.
Subutex and suboxone is absolutely useless once your pain is past a certain level. Moderate pain maybe but not severe pain. Glad I have a good pain management dr !! I think ill keep my 30mg oxycodone and my 40mg Opana ER.
Wait till your doc cuts you off or he retires. Happened to me. Nobody taking new patiences. Its a complete nightmare. Dedox and live with pain is sadly the only way.
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Most pain mgt. doctors have never experienced chronic pain so they don't know what we go through. I have had 4 back operations and have to go for a fifth because the screws keep loosening up. This doctor is just like the rest, refusing to prescribe the proper opioids dosage for the patient. Since the government cracked down because some doctors were pill factories it hurts the thousands of us with severe chronic pain. If you're in pain management and complain the treatment isn't working they get rid of you and trying to get into another pain management clinic is hard and sometimes takes months if they are taking new patients. I found out the hard way by asking my last 2 doctors if they ever had chronic pain and they instantly got an attitude. I think that was a reasonable question because reading about pain does not mean you understand what living with it is like. There are a lot of medicines that would work if they would only try them.
true. one doc told me any human needs only this considered tiny dose of med. it's been proven scientifically. I am afraid of this one cause the other is on leave and a lot of patients may be hurting when they get assigned to her.
Such a shame that doctors cannot prescribe painkillers as freely as before. For one, those in pain, especially chronic pain, have to suffer or jump through a bunch of hoops to get their medication regimen, which likely isn’t enough. And also largely because people that took them illegally for recreational purposes remain dependent and... Walaahhh now they can’t get opioids and it stops abuse, right!? Wrong. Now they oftentimes must take whatever opioid is available; IE: heroin, /street opiates or pills, possibly from overseas, or likely counterfeit pills with god knows what (fentanyl) And no, these will never go away no matter how many people get jailed. So now grandma betreace is in a lot more pain because the doctor cut her morphine and put her on Vicodin. And you got joe blow your neighbor who’s suffering and misses work because doctors won’t give him the Percocet he needs to function and reduce his back pain. So he now snorts heroin out of desperation, which costs him a ton of money and reduces his family’s quality of life. And you got Jackie, who is a full time student in medical school residency, who takes Vicodin for fun on the side, who can not obtain it so she tries some stamped pill made overseas. It looks similar but is an obvious counterfeit. Well she overdosed and almost dies because it had too much fentanyl cut. Fighting the “war on opioids” by cutting pain medication is a success!? I think not! It’s harmful to do so in reality.
weed is no golden goose I hate it. no seriously you are so right please too many people are really hurting over this. who is gonna help if they don't they took an oathw.the job and the money it makes. wait til the shit hits the fan and dea etc will go after the docs who didn't educate or advocate for patients in pain and what might be the end resultsss
deborah morani oh yes! There will be one hellish backlash coming when legit patients start dying..either from strokes or seizures or simply seeking out their own relief like heroin and maybe the poisonous kind. It’s all so stupid!! It’s now a ‘cover your ass’ exercise because of pure corporate greed!! Guess who will pay the ultimate price??...the lowest on the totem pole..the ones who don’t have the means to defend themselves financially and in court. The writing is on the wall now. Why won’t the real ‘protectors of the public’ start doing the right thing?!?!🤬🤬🤬🤯🤯😡
you're right. already had the grand mal seizure scenario. fell right out in the restaurant in the middle of business. thank god someone caught me. the cops and emts forced me to go to hosp. after I was fine and it was over and you know we don't want to go there. bad things can happen there. sometines you get good care help and respect. I did then. a nurse left a test and came in w/ pain med I didn't ask for and said you are due you don't want to be off schedule I know about long acting meds and pain. and they suggested valium for the test I said no but they talked me into it being ok and appropriate for this. they were right and I do take prn valium already they know that. didn't want the Xanax bars again. no way. they are a hell. been assured the valium won't be like that and isn't. I can take or leave them most of the time and told the doc that. the only protectors are help yourself. educate. get the best care and best docs you can. makes a huge dif. corporate greed, and all this shit , if it's fixed is going to take a long time. some info on net about people educating and helping. slow going. money is a huge issue as well. people are too scared to do anything or it may not be their prob now so maybe they will find out too some day, then get off their ass and stand up. most docs aren't that's statistically proven already. only a few.
My sciatic nerve is pinched from falling through a ceiling FFS lol I take a oxycodone 15mg the pain laughs at me and calls me a sucker but if I take more than prescribed I’ll come up short and then the real suffering begins. Wish I never got injured at a time like this doctors run and tuck tail from the DEA while people like myself bend over and say have a go.
I start pain management next month and tbh nervous. I suffer from non radiographic axial spondyal arthritis and reactive arthritis and I'm only 28. Just afraid I'm gonna be treated like a drug seeker.
I don't know his medical condition but I have been on Norco 10/325 for eight years and have got the insurance co, to cover epidural and I have almost no pain . I have detox myself off the pills now for over three weeks ago and I'll tell you it was not easy but when you put your mind to do this and trust the good Lord to help you well all things are possible. I am clean and off the pills life is getting better.
You are lucky! An epidural didn't help me. So if I put my mind to it the epidural will help me or I can ween myself off my pain meds and I won't need them anyone more?. I already did that and it was a piece of cake because I am not addicted.Then the pain got worse and worse and It just reminded me of why I started taking them to begin with.
mpadil more importantly, what was your condition bc if you can just stop norco and the lord says you’re good to go, imho you didn’t have chronic pain in the first place. You had acute pain. Big difference.
If this is not reality, it depicts a Dr visit pretty realistically for someone that is trying to get stronger meds. I tried to get something stronger or increase after being on Norco for about 10 years, and my pain management Dr. said he wasn’t comfortable with that, but instead added a 12 hr pain medication 2x daily called Belbuca film. He said this along with my current Norcos should help keep the pain relief lasting longer. Belbuca’s retail for my prescribed dosage strength is around $800 monthly! Luckily with insurance it was cut back to $162.00, then added a coupon savings card from the manufacturer to reduce the cost further to about $60. Hopefully Belbuca with the Norcos daily will help to give me around-the-clock pain management? We’ll see how it goes 🙏 Thank God my pain Dr. believes what I told him, which WAS the truth. I would have been scared to death if he would have taken my Norco away and left me cold turkey, dear Lord!
@Walter B Mainly true, but it in itself is listed as a strong time release opioid used for around the clock pain management. But by itself and at correct dosage with its high infinity to bind tightly with the mu receptors, it will displace full agonists such as hydrocodone, oxycodone, and others preventing their binding, thus making them less effective, and/or reduce the craving for and/or withdrawal of over time. I found by itself alone it’s not very effective at pain relief when compared to full agonists such as Hydrocodone or Oxycodone. In my opinion some of the pain relief buprenorphine actually provides is more mental than physical, by doing so by providing the reduction of the anxiety/stress & withdrawal associated with the full on agonist pain relief type drugs.
I have had severe back pain for many years and I have taken minimal opioid pain medication when I needed but some people think a higher dosage is what they need in most cases it's not true sometimes you just have to deal with it without medication!!
I have been to 4 different pain clinics. Two were wonderful and two were not good. I now have a wonderful primary care doctor. What he gives me is Tramadol 50mg four times a day and Lyrical 50mg at bedtime and this is doing a wonderful job. I previously had been on Oxycodone 10mg three times a day and it started to not work and I would take extra doses and I would run out and then be out and I would go through detox and this was terrible. I think this doctor is doing the right thing because of him going to three doctors.
Doctor patronizing this patient is typical. This is outrageous. If the guy needs pain meds, give him as much as he needs to be comfortable and productive. Detox??, Support group for chronic pain, AYSM My wife, dying of breast cancer was turned away from the pharmacy for trying to fill her oxycodone script one day early. She would occasionally drop the small pills because of the numbness in her fingers from the chemo treatment. At least once a couple of pills wound up lost to the sink drain. I'm wondering what on earth is driving this attitude against pain relieving analgesics that are opiod receptor agonists. Could it be that they are so inexpensive to produce and most of the patents are expired, big pharma cant make enough money on them. Or is it so that by not prescribing them and driving chronic pain patients to obtain scheduled medicines without a "valid prescription" puts the patient at risk of criminal sanctions, including asset forfeiture. Or is the government trying to tag people with chronic health problems ( the unproductive members of society ) for eventual elimination. When you hear politicians and other talking heads on this issue, they always cite unrealistic numbers of 'lives that will be saved" or "numbers of abusers" that seem to me to be very inflated. How many people do you know that are abusers of opiod analgesics? probably not even one. That is unless you count people like the patient in the video, who if you worked beside him when he was pain free because of the proper use of his medicines, would seem completely normal. Anyone got any ideas why this crackdown on chronic pain patients.
With your wife's condition its ludicrous... (I am very sorry and will pray for her and you as well) one day!!! oh yeah she's a cancer patient but a drug seeking addict.....pharmacist should be punched....I am a chronic pain patient for years and under treated pain will drive you mad...I know the statistics are crap they don't tell you the fool drank a 1/5 took some Valium then 10 hydro's hell the Tylenol will kill you faster...the war is on.....God be with you and your wife
+Dan Seluk I CAN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE....I AM SO SORRY TO HEAR THAT YOUR WIFE...I WILL PRAY FOR A SPEEDY RECOVERY...SHE WILL GET BETTER...BUT LIKE I WAS SAYING THE WHOLE PHARMACY THING I HAD TROUBLE THE OTHER DAY BECAUSE MY SCRIPT WAS EARLY AS WELL...I ALSO DROP MY PAIN PILLS A LOT BECAUSE OF MY RA ARTHRITIS FIBRO AND MY NERVES I GOT PINCHED NERVES, THREE HERNIATED DISCS, ARTHRITIS IN MY BACK, AND SOME OTHER LUMBAR SPINE ISSUES, BUT I TOOK IT TO THREE PHARMACIES NEAR MY HOUSE...AND WALGREENS SAID IT IS THEIR "POLICY" AND THEY CAN'T FILL IT EARLY....THEN I TOOK IT TO WALMART THEY TOLD ME TO COME BACK AND IT WOULD BE READY ON THE 14 AND THAT DIDN'T HAPPENED AND HER EXCUSE WAS THAT THE PERSON WHO TOOK MY SCRIPT.....DIDN'T KNOW THAT THEIR ARE ONLY 29DAYS IN THIS MONTH....THEY ARE TERRIBLE ...THEN I TOOK IT TO SAFEWAY AND THEY SAID THEY WOULDN'T FILL IT UNTIL LIKE FIVE DAYS LATER....SO THEN WE WENT TO THE CITY (MY DOC IS LOCATED IN THE CITY) TOOK IT TO THE WALGREENS AND THEY HAD IT FILLED WITHIN HALF HOUR......SO IT REALLY DEPEND'S ON IF THE PHARMACIST FEEL LIKE FILLING IT!!!!!! MOST OF THEM LOVE TO PLAY DOCTOR AS WELL!!! I HAD TAKEN A SCRIPT TO TARGET IT ONCE...AND THE PHARMASICT REALLY EMBARRASSED ME, MADE ME FEEL LIKE A DRUG ADDICT, ASKING ME ALL THESE QUESTIONS REALLY LOUDLY, ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE HEARD HIM!! I WAS IN TEARS.....SO I TALKED TO A MANAGER...I HOPE HE GOT FIRED...I KNOW HE GOT WRITTEN UP..DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AFTER....ANYWAYS I FEEL FOR YOUR WIFE AND KNOWING WHAT A BATTLE IT IS JUST TO FEEL NORMAL, TO GET PAIN RELIEF!! NOT FEEL LIKE SLEEPING ALL DAY BECAUSE THE PAIN IS SO BAD!!!
i had that problem the pharmacists also like to play God aswell you need to go in and talk to the owner or head pharmacist tell them ..or go to another and talk to them aswell before going to get it filled esp when you have a legit doc prescription and everthing is on the level...find the right one i sat and told what was happening to me and the head pharm was disgusted...its between you and your doc.. he went to school studied for years and years practised for years ect he knows best thars why we put our lices in there hands to a extent..not to be belittled by assholes like that ...i hate to wish bad will on anyone but just for one to six monthes i wish they could go through what i and most people have gone through sad!!!! they get this POWER TRIP!!!THEREA BEEN STUDIES DONE ON THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOUR ITS WELL DOCUMENTED..LIKE THE JAIL EXPERIMENT...OR PEOPLE WHO HAVE ACTUALLY THOUGHT THEY WERE INFLICTING MASS AMOUNTS OF PAIN TO PEOPLE YET THEY CONTINUE....POWER TRIP!!! RAMBLING AGAIN LOL HOPE YOUR WIFE GETA BETTER HAVE YOU TRIED apricot seeds??hope she gets better and pray God bless
sorry abt my message i usually do voice text or reply and with out looking i post ..i hope you can make it out..and againg hope she gets better .God bless ...sad people must go through this type of harassment in times of trouble..
I know this is an act. There’s no way I could even sit in a pain doc office and talk like this patient. I literally lay on the table and try to communicate with the pain doc with a lot of pain. I can’t hardly communicate
I'm enjoying some pain relief right now.me feet feel broken and every joint is screaming aloud. One 5mg every 4 hours helps some but two,is better? The withdrawal is scary.
How can the average guy talk with a trained doctor, the doctor will will every time. This doctor didn't give the guy a fair shot. I did not see him review the man's x-rays and other films to look once again at the problem. Also I have sat in many offices and heard the same line. Finally I got to a pain specialist with all kinds of credintials that reviews all my information and filled out a pain score finally giving me the correct medicine
Prescription monitoring programs are there to stop people taking more drugs than what is healthy for them. Random urine or blood taking is a requirement to prove to the doctor you are not taking other drugs, but also it can show if you are metabolising the drug quicker than most people. For example, a good doctor would have a blood sample taken before you are due your morning dose (of sustained release opiate), then you take your dose, then 5 hours later they take another blood sample. I have been in one situation where I was absorbing Morphine sustained release so quickly during the day I was experiencing light withdrawal symptoms 2-3 hours before my next dose was due, so I had to stay at a clinic all day whilst they took hourly bloods so the doctor could see the rise and fall of the levels of morphine in my system. Videos like this do 2 things 1) they give doctors something to show their patients (who in turn feel betrayed and like they are being treated like a child) and 2) mislead the doctor into thinking anyone who see more than one doctor for medication MUST be a junkie.... however lets argue that this Gentleman might well be getting more medication because he metabolises it quicker than the average person, or hes in so much pain that the doctors best intentions just werent working. What doctors should do is do what one did to me - put him into hospital and give the nurses instructions to allow him to have 10mg or Ordine (liquid morphine) every hour if he wants.... then monitor for 3 days... luckily for me I was in so much pain I saw that nurse every hour for those 3 days and only got about 3 hours of sleep, we worked out quickly just how much pain I was in, and we worked out mutliple ways to tackle it - 1 of that still includes opiates... (I really think the doctor thought I'd be fast asleep after the 6th hour...lol) - so there are ways to handle people in pain, just using time and dignity, and using that ace up their sleeve (admit them to a hospital and bombard them with opiates). Unfortunately America has a crappy health system, and what helped me immensly would nt have happened over there, and like many people I would have turned to heroin long ago to battle my pain....
It's easy to get hooked on these meds.20 years ago I was hurt very bad in a accident. I had over to operations and the doctors were giving me a lot of pain meds. After a while the meds weren't helping as much plus I had no energy to do anything. I stopped all pain meds and started to get my body in shape again which helped a lot. I still live with pain but I have a life again.
If you are under 60 years of age, always ask for Ritalin when asking for pain medication. Ritalin is the solution for all addiction except porn addiction
I must have missed the part where the doctor told the chronic pain patient WHY the current pain meds weren’t safe for him. He mentioned that if the patient takes a higher dose of the same meds he just “might not wake up one day”. Perhaps the people that produced this video should have approached it using the average chronic pain patient. The average patient takes the meds as prescribed, sticks to the terms of the pain contract and doesn’t doctor shop or call for refills using falsehoods such as claiming their meds were stolen or lost. Perhaps the camera should capture the life of the average chronic pain patient, taking the meds and being at least functional enough to hold a job or care for their children. There are chronic pain patients and there are drug abusers. Promoting the viewpoint that chronic pain patients are all drug abusers is just plain wrong, and in many cases harmful. Stop putting the blame on the people that are using opioids from necessity and not for fun or profit or whatever.
If you are under 60 years of age, always ask for Ritalin when asking for pain medication. Ritalin is the solution for all addiction except porn addiction
i have chronic pain from haveing to take prograf which is a anti rejection med becase i have had a heart transplant it is so bad and have not found a docture who cares. i am ready to stop taking my ainti rejsction med all together. what is there left to do
jeremey whyaskitt Hi I don’t know what you might really want but I think I can offer a little help. I bought a drug from a vendor while I was trying to get a pain relief med- who doesn’t like to make things public but he is very smart and kind. His name is Mike You can text or WhatsApp him for any kind of drugs +1(507)556 1573 he’s really legit and you won’t regret asking him for help ! tell him I referred you .
This man is showing Drug seeking behaviors, going to multiple dr's for meds , saying " My medication was stolen " And only wants more & stronger, This Dr. is doing this guy a giant favor by saying no !!!!!!
I am so thankful that I took my Drs advice and had a Pain Pump implant. It wires directly in your spine so you receive a continuous dose of Morphine. It takes a small fraction of the drug to relieve pain. I went from taking high doses to now only needing a very small amount. It was the best decision I've ever made and can now begin to enjoy life again and be more active since my hell began in 2001.
If you transitioned your intrathecal dose back into an oral dose, it'd be higher. Intrathecal only needs a fraction of the dose because it doesn't need to go through first pass metabolism first, not because delivering it to the spine is some magic route of administration. The implant is rarely indicated. You can't just ask for it.
My doctor didn't tell me it would eventually make the pain worse. I never would have started. 4 surgeries later and a spinal cord stimulator I'm no better. Life is horrible.
Scott McCollum Yes and the 7/750 has 750mg Tylenol. However, I was referring to the efficacy. I did a typo on the first post. Thanks for letting me know.
Scott McCollum actually the FDA has recently decreased the amount of acetaminophen in combination opioid products in the United States. This decrease has been to 300 to 325 milligrams of acetaminophen per tablet instead of the usual 500 +.
+Dave Seavy Very stupid that they add Tylenol at all. "Hey let's add something really harmful and toxic that will get you liver damage to avoid people taking too many!".
@Adam Davis Yea I blew it on that one. It isn't the first time and I am sure at my age I will screw up again. God bless and Happy Good Friday! Yes it is prescribed. Oh well. Oops!
My mother in law was booted from her contract and she tried finding a new dr and was told that with the termination on her record neither he nor will any other dr prescribe her the pain meds she needs.....so apparently once your terminated you will never be back on those meds again, even if it proves that nothing but the pain meds will help....in York PA, that is Im not sure if its like that anywhere else
+Hugh Janus apparently when your terminated from your contract ....you get sort of blacklisted by other Doctors....thus making it impossible for someone in pain to ever receive anything other physical therapy..... if pain meds are needed then your just out of luck
+Hugh Janus in order the be prescribed pain meds the doctor makes you sign a contract....if terms are violated then the contract with THAT doctor is terminated THAT doctor will no longer see you if pain meds are required although its supposed to work on a doctor by doctor basis....one violation usually permanent ban by ALL doctors
unfortunately this happens all too often. And for the people that really are in chronic pain that cannot be relieved with exercise or PT are all lumped into the category of drug seekers. Some of these people are selling their meds, too. I see ppl daily that are on so many drugs they can barely walk from being drugged, and they are complaining about the pain being so bad. Catch 22. I was once on at least 4 different drugs, and when I got off all of them, my pain was not really any worse. So for ME, I think the drugs were making things worse.
The funniest part about this is that a doctor would never spend this much time and care on a pain patient.
Truth !
I’ve done this many times. Doesn’t usually go that smoothly though. There are doctors and other providers out there who do care about their patients wellbeing .
@@jamiewright4804 they love the harassing people. Especially the previous woman who was out and pain had set in, then comes the detox. They love it. So do many pharmacists.
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Yes there are
There are some people who do seek drugs. However 90% of us chronic pain patients use our meds correctly. I have never run out of my medication or needed an early refill. I have been on different pain medications for 25 years. I took myself off Fentanyl as it was too strong. I am tired of people saying “ You don’t look like you’re in pain”. Many just don’t understand.
Yep, you sound like me. Nobody understands because it’s an invisible disability. Not like a guy in a wheelchair or crutches. I get weird looks by people watching me park in a handicap spot. A few times I told questioners “ if only you knew buddy” and just shuffle away.
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Bingo. Chronic pain since 1976. Totally unmedicated now. No opiates. No muscle relaxer. No anti depressant. No anti seizure. 11 failed surgeries . Dead spinal cord stimulator. The doctors can only say I'm sorry. Not as sorry as I am.
Thank you to say that!😊
For every ‘drug seeker’ there are hundreds of suffering patients who have never misused their MEDICINE. It’s time for this stereotyping to stop, as well as the war on Opiates prescribed by legitimate doctors.
Agreed. I am one of the suffering patients. I have been truly blessed with my pain doctor. He is doing other things to alleviate pain to in my back. For instance I just had my nerves burned in the left side between c4 and c5. The other side is going to be done on Wednesday. He still prescribes me my Percocet as a go to when I need them. Scenarios like in this video are very real. It should have " FOR DRUG SEEKERS ONLY" in the disclaimer. Because you're right. All those that suffer legitimately are placed in this category at some point or another. Thankfully I have the best Dr. He is the best for me but may not be for the guy down the street. It is all about being honest with your doctors. When my doctor was doing my procedure this last time, he was playing the soundrack from Guardians of the Galaxy. Way cool doc.
I could NOT agree with you more!
I am one of those people who suffer needlessly because
someone...I don't know if it is the medical field, the government...
or both....are trying to save people who mis-use meds and they
are killing us...people who JUST WANT RELIEF anyway we can
get it :(
And believe me - I am NOT saying lets not help people...
mis-using drugs - I have had to go thru withdrawals because
I did take my meds to soon :(
Its pretty darn hard to know that in that little pill bottle
is something that will help your pain - but you cannot take
it for another 2-3-5 hours :(
When you are in pain so bad that you actually DREAD
walking to the bathroom 10 steps away...even 20 more
minutes of that level of pain feels like forever :(
I just had to comment on this video...its such a shame
that people who JUST WANT RELIEF...are being labeled
drug seekers - junkies - addicts...
and yes - we ARE all of those things but its not because
we are looking for a recreational high...we just want to
be able to sit...stand...eat...without hurting!
Can you imagine walking up every morning and
going to bed every night ....knowing you are not
going to feel relief from pain? Imagine going thru
your life with a toothache - headache or that
acute pain you feel when you twist the wrong way...
stub your toe, slam your hand in the car door...
cos thats what a lot of chronic pain patients deal
with :( And I promise...I am not exaggerating ...
I just felt so bad for this man...I don't know if its
a re-inactment or true video ... but this happens...
cos it has happened to me ... and I have broken
Harrington rods in my back :( You can literally see
there is something wrong in and around my spinal
cord...one of the nerve centers of the body...anyone
with half a brain is going to know...this hurts ...
BUT an intern at Jewish Hospital in Ohio said
she was going to have to label me a drug seeker...
if I asked for my pain meds one more time :( I was
in the hospital, laying flat on my back in a coma for
4-5 weeks when she said this to me ... I had rang
the nurse station 3 times in 4 hours to get my meds...
when the intern came in, I thought she could help
me - I had already missed one dose of pain meds...
but yet - because I told her how I had asked for the
meds three times...she said I was a drug seeker :(
I guess its easier to call me a drug seeker than to
say "oh my ma'am - those nurses are really slacking
off! They should have been with you within an hour!"
I have 2 daughters that are in the nursing field...I know
how hard they work...so I am not normally one to
complain .... but when you have been in chronic pain for
41 years...I think...you have a right to not complain but
speak up ...
And I'm gonna ...
even if its the last thing i do :(
they took mine and i never did anything wrong.. i quit and use kratom now
Laura Coates boy oh boy... you just don’t know how much you have helped me right this very moment....
Today is a really bad day 😞 and to be honest... I don’t know if it’s that my pain is worse OR if I am just having a day where I am frustrated because I’ve had pain most every day since July 1977....that’s when the wreck happened....
Hmmm...you know what? That’s the first time I’ve ever said that in all these years.... I wish I could say that I feel better now that I said it...but I don’t. 😞
I just wanted to say thank you so very very much honey for taking a moment to reply to me...it REALLY did help me...I was sitting here having a pity party for myself because I feel like I should NOT have to lay here suffering again when there is something to help me 😞 unfortunately it’s opioids...and I was thinking about how I am pretty much out of luck because NO ONE CARES 😔
And Laura...
Regrettably...
YOU are a rare bird honey...
GOD-how I wish the medical field could find what
cell, gene, component....is it that you have...that makes
you genuinely care about...
a stranger....
another person who is suffering needlessly 😩😟...
Cos I assure you-not everyone has this component in their heart 😒
Thank you so very much....
I know there is something super special about MOST drs & nurses ....
I totally know some people go into it for the money....
but I also still do believe
for the majority of those
in the medical field...
It’s “a calling “ and you are DEFINITELY one of those “called “ 😍
Some people call folks like you....”an angel “ 😇
Thank you for reminding me that SOME people DO care about a person suffering...
But their hands are tied 😔
Kenneth Simbapuppyeyes yes I just recently tried kratom myself and I tell you...had I not had the kratom.... I would have absolutely definitely ended up in the hospital from pain and WD symptoms....😞
Isn’t it absolutely horrible that I could have died....when only 3-4 blocks away from me was something that could have kept me alive BUT because others mis-use it....my husband’s wife- my sons mother-and my grandsons grandma....may have to die?
Am I insane...or should the medical field...do whatever it takes
even IF
for the moment...
to give me some little bit of a quality of life ...until they can figure out what to do for my situation?
I mean heck....
For now...
Put me on whatever....
Poke me with whatever....
Make me lay...
TOTALLY flat
for an hour on a cold hard table....while they stick a THICK needle into my spine and PUSH this cold fluid into my system....cos I’ve had to do that ( it’s called epidural) 😞 31 times....
But I’m sorry...I’m rambling....
Laura...you just really made me smile and realize that there really are people who do care-their healing hands are just tied 😞
Laura...thank you sweetheart for the work you TRY to do...and please....give your hubby the biggest best kiss and hugs ever...when he finally gets home today....
Tell him thank you for doing the work he does AND ....
For staying with a partner with chronic pain 😞
Let’s face it Laura....
Unfortunately most people would not stay with people like us....
But thank goodness....we got lucky and we got men who genuinely honor those words “ I do “. 🥰
BUT
I’m betting
He got himself one heck of a great woman...so what’s some chronic pain issues when....like our hubbies....they got themselves some pretty darn good women 😻
Yes! I feel like I've been beat up every morning when I wake up. I'm at an 8 all the time. 38 years of my chronic pain with a laundry list of medical issues! You get to a breaking point to the point where you PRAY to God to just END the suffering! God bless you hon! 💗
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Girl look into a pain pump. They work soo much better than pills. And u get a constant dose of medicine all the time.
You feel like you’ve been beaten up because you’re withdrawing every morning.
@@epicbehavior are you in chronic pain? If not how do you know?
I was taken off opioids by the policy change within the Veteran's Administration. The Veteran's Administration had kept me on timed-release Morphine for fifteen years. Without it, I am in too much pain to exercise, and I find it difficult to get through my daily activities. The people who took their prescription medications as directed were never the problem. It was the addicts who were the problem.
Unfortunately, that's not so cut and dry. I've witnessed people who aren't addicts get addicted and mess their life up... I've witnessed addicts realize that pain meds are like treating a gunshot wound with a very small band-aid. Everything is circumstantial and perceptual. Hard for me to judge since I live in a glass house. Love and blessings to you all!!!
After my injury I went into physiotherapy. I remember the physiotherapist said some patients need pain medication so that they can get to the clinic and do the exercises. In addition often the exercises will aggravate your chronic pain so again pain medication is helpfull. He also said if the injury and pain causes you to get to deconditioned that you could go from using a cane to a walker, from a walker to a wheelchair, from a wheelchair to a bed. So pain medication is important to help keep you active and doing your exercises. I'm sorry veterans are denied the medical care and medication they need. They got no problem giving veterans loads of psychiatric medication for their PTSD and DEPRESSION so why deny them medication for PHYSICAL PAIN.
I feel bad for patients with ms, and sickle cell anemia patients due to this illness the painful experience of all types of races not just blacks and I was tested for this last year and thankfully I don't have it at all. Elijah mom called my clinic and told them to test me for 🤮 sickle cell anemia that's so sweetie she is.
That is such BS. They should have at least offered you suboxone or grandfathered you into a program where they continued to prescribe them.
The government and the cdc fucked up big time by cutting people off
Me, the VA is the worst!
I've had 14 surgeries after two accidents being hit as a pedestrian and then on my motorcycle. The first pain clinic was actually really good, they did doses that worked, and we also tried and used different therapies to help with back pain especially. I was kicked out after I had surgery and the surgeon called in a low dose I guess to treat the new temporary pain from the surgery. I didn't ask for the meds, I didn't doctor shop, and just because he called it in without really talking to me about it, the clinic accused me of going to multiple doctors and being a drug seeker. Common sense would usually dictate that people don't run out and have major surgery to get some Lortab 5's when they get oxy 30's from the pain clinic. The government and health care have really caused problems for legit patients. It's no wonder street drug use is off the charts.
That is truly horrifying. I'm so sorry that happened to you. Much love 2 u.
@@CFernndz17 thank you for the nice words, the only ones who should be sorry are ones that hit me and the ones that are making my life harder by enforcing laws that only punish the patients who need relief and were following the rules.
I had a pain medication prescribed for me by the ER (that my son accidentally picked up for me) but since I have a pain management contract all I had to do was bring the unopened bottle to my pain doctor. Once they saw I wasn't double dipping everything was great! They destroyed the pills and we went on with our visit.
This is not how it happens. As soon as you ask for a pain med you are treated with suspicion. No as soon as you complain about chronic pain doctors look at you like you're a junkie. And god forbid if you refuse to comply with what the doctor tells you to wave bye buy to pain relief.
+Holly Sterling Likewise anxiety medication, especially benzos. Straight away its "Oh RLY?"..
Holly Sterling Depends on the doc, your behavior, your insurance, your look, your ability to convince, etc. Lot's of factors involved
anyone in chronic pain knows this. the fear factor is real especially in relation to how you are treated
Are they actually forcing doctors to reduce prescriptions for chronic pain persons?
@@MCConfuz
Yes, I believe they are. And possibly worse things.
Alert: If your doctor ever talks to you like this , leave immediately and go to another doctor. Or at least get your meds and never come back. This doctor is not even on your side.
+Avalon Mist You can't do that. Once you're accused of doctor shopping no doc will accept you as a patient.
my doc had a baby. she was good. the new one sounds a lil like him here what the hell can I do . she likes the opiate vacation, I told her I'm not ready I might have to get ready this is awful to be in pain and need meds
Bob Koss I think a few people are missing that this is clearly an example of talking to a patient who was breaking laws/not being straight up.
But the stories in the comments, man, I’m sorry.
No judgement here, I did dope for ten years...I just landed here doing research for a video on Sobriety & Surgery for my youtube
@@bobkoss280 yep - you are exactly right. And I don't understand this ... we are made to accept whatever the medical field THINKS is right for us...
They don't listen to us - not really - once you say "I'm on _____ " Fill in the blank with the name of any narcotic :(
I HATE taking pills/meds of any kind... I'm pushing 60 and I've never been arrested for anything ...
no dui - no drug traffics - not hing...but yet, because I have had chronic pain for 41 years ... and older now and
just can't handle it like I did when I was younger....and because I have broken harrington rods in my back ...
I am called drug-seeker,addict ... lazy!?
it is terrible what chronic pain patients have to live with on top of their pain :(
@@LongformJaunt "Breaking laws/not being straight up" is not a sufficient enough solo-criteria for addiction diagnoses when you consider the reality of what it means to be a pain patient prescribed opioids.
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0955395919300234?fbclid=IwAR3mFuSsA2_59eeD56AmWnaMg5lcxFT-NzKzwQbxmeAnEqZ_eVpDSKY155U
academic.oup.com/painmedicine/article/19/7/1302/4839255
God....this DR needs to work for the VA! 6 years on same dose and they stopped refilling Med. Someone, the Fed Govt, is pushing all the opioids out of anyone's hands. Totally irresponsible.
The opposite of addiction isn't sobriety but human connection. And of course there is a difference between addiction vs tolerance vs dependence, and lots of people get these mixed up.
agreed
Totally agree!
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It's incredibly amazing how they manage to convince people that detox is so great and that if you just get off it, why all the sudden your pain will just go away. If you're only 100% addicted, then maybe yes however, people like me who have severe and chronic pain from a moderately severe scoliosis, taking me off medications would kill me. I'm happy to have the medicine that I do have, it's very helpful.
I’m curious if this doctor has done an MRI or CT on patients like George? I found out I have moderately severe spinal stenosis, severe scoliosis (56 degrees) and multiple bulging discs as well as a totally straight neck, no curvature (birth defect), I’ve also had stress fractures at the tailbone and all of those things cause me tremendous pain.
I’ve been taking a regular morphine and breakthrough meds for over ten years. I just started with new doctor at theVA. He took me off everything and gave me one ridiculous muscle relaxer to take at night. The pain has taken over. After years of reasonable control now I’ve reverted to no function and pain controlling my every movement. These doctors have no idea what life is like in constant pain.
@@AmerijamAcres that is so evil, to do that to our veterans. I’m am so sorry.
Detox isn’t a walk in the park, but in this case the doctor realizes the problem, the guy wants more and more and he’s just going to keep increasing his tolerance and make it harder to stop. It’s not like he’s asking for his first script.
@@AmerijamAcres They will, trust me.... they will.
@@AmerijamAcres I agree. There is no quality of life in constant pain. My Doc would never give me an opoid and I have had a terrible life following a traumatic injury (Broken back, paralysis).
If only this were a real life example of how doctors behave with pain patients. In all my years as a pain patient I've never had any doctor treat me as patiently and kindly as this example. I've been taken off pain meds cold turkey after years of being at the same dosage and doing very well on them with minimal side effects, put back on them again because the next doctor is appalled at how I was treated before. Then that doctor retires and a brand new one says "we've discovered pain meds don't help anybody" and so they take me and all their other hapless patients back off of them to our dismay on account of we are living proof that they do, in fact, help so what is this "we've" discovered" business? Then if you go to another doctor you are drug seeking and a "high risk".Bloody hell, if these doctors can't get their shit together enough to be consistent with what they do and that's all fine and good then I don't know why they think we, the pain patients, can't make a mistake or two along the way. God forbid we have a bad pain day and snap at them,lest we be put in the "bad patient" category and the terrorist watch list for drug seeking dope fiends.
All the same things have happened to me over and over. The doctors are evil trolls!
+Meg Kampen It's the DEA that has the doctors scared to prescribe narcotics. It's absolutely ridiculous! The government has way too much control over our lives. They need to let the doctors make the medical decisions, and prescribe what they think is best, whether it's a narcotic or not. The so called, "War On Drugs" isn't working. It's actually making things worse, in my opinion. Drug abusers are gonna get high no matter how much the DEA/Government cracks down on doctors prescribing pain pills. It's just gonna turn a lot of people who are truly seeking pain relief into heroin addicts or they'll be buying pain pills illegally from drug dealers. But, our government knows this. They don't care! We, as citizens our nothing but a big experiment for them. It's just population control, and truth be told the government distributes the most heroin, cocaine, etc out into our communities, especially the more lower socioeconomic communities. Most people call me crazy, but I call them misinformed!
Deanna Parsons The doctors could do something about it if they all banded together but they don't care. My doctor retired without telling anyone. I was scheduled in with a nurse practitioner and she cut me off cold turkey and then lied about it, The old doctor left one more subscription and all I had to do was come in a get it when we called. When we did she took it and said she gave me my last prescription but she didn't. They said they would find out what happened to the 2 missing prescriptions but they never called back and haven't returned any of our phone calls. Thye also prescribed these benzodiaphines to all the pain patients to help them with withdrawal. They just gave it to us the pharmacy when I got my last prescription . It was never discussed with me or anything, Just giving us stuff without knowing why and people who don't need and have already found a doctor could easily sell it. I just know that most doctors treating me for pain and been very cruel and nasty to me.
I know what the government is doing. I knew as soon as I found out I wasn't getting a cost of living decrease on my disability check for 3 years. When I did it was 10 dollars. The same as 25 years ago. My check has been 800 and something for the last 8 years. They just closed down the last pain clinic in Seattle that accepts medicare. Now we have to pay out of pocket and there is a 2 month wait and they don't give you anything on your first visit. They know we can't afford it. Take money from the most vulnerable people in society. That's socialism. Didn't Hitler do that?. Yes! They said there would be death panels and people laughed, We are useless and we are a burden on society so it's time to get rid of us.I don't now what I am going to do. We called an old doctor in Bellevue and he helped me out by writing me 2 prescriptions when he found out what happened to me. My pain is two severe and chronic. I would have to commit suicide if I didn't get help. I am scared. Scared and traumatized by the pain.I can't believe how evil this woman is. What are you going to do? I don't want to be in this country anymore. I never voted for Obama.I am to sick to move or fight.
+Deanna +Meg.. I think you are both right with regards to the DEA. I have lost many friends who are fellow pain patients. Some have committed suicide and some have died from taking heroin. Prescritpion grade pain pills are so expensive on the dark net that most can't afford it so they have to turn to heroin which just rots you out from the inside. I miss them so much. And yes, the DEA knows and they do not care.
I am not so sure about doctors. I've noticed the new ones are being taught on the educational end that pain medications don't work so they see no reason to prescribe them. I think that many don't care but I also think many do care but believe what they are told and taught not to trust their patients word for how effective they are because we're "drug seeking".
Have either of you tried Kratom? It's okay and might be able to help you get through this until you can find a good doctor. The DEA tried to make it a schedule 1 controlled substance on September 31 but backed down when thousands of pain patients contacted their local reps about how they use it for pain relief.
It's an herb and it is the most powerful pain reliever I have found otc. It's not as good as a prescription but it's not as weak as all the other herbs out there. It packs a punch and is reasonably priced. Currently it is still something almost anyone can get on the internet. It's illegal in two or three states but if you aren't in those states, it may be worth a try. Check out my channel here or pm me for more info if you are curious :)
Yes, I agree. It does seem like if all the Drs would band together something could be done about this problem. I'm not sure what I'm gonna do. Honestly, I'm just so sick about it all because my pain is a ten almost everyday, and I don't know what i'll do when I'm completely cut off my meds.
Like to see this dr walk more with level 10 pain 24/7!!!! Taking away the pain meds is totally wrong. My doctor want to switch me to doing monovie. She is taking all her patients and putting them on it saying that California won't let us have our prescriptions! I could care less about getting a high. I want to stay away from pain period! Juice def is not going to take pain away. I cleanse myself and not take them for days and then go back on them. Without the meds the pain is so bad that suicide crosses your mind. I'm tired of pain patients being treated like a drug addicts. We're not! If I have to live with no relief i won't be living! I have tried tons of non opiod meds and they don't work and physical therapy doesn't work. Damage is not reversible so then what. Pain patients need to get together and protest!
I completely agree with your entire response 110 %!! I'm a chronic pain patient and yeah,the gov't continues to treat us chronic pain patients like street drug addicts.
I agree!! This doc has ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT TO DO WHAT HE DID !!! I DON'T BLAME HIM THIS MAN FOR LEAVING THIS STUPID ASS DOCTOR !! I feel so sorry for this man because the horrific withdrawal he'll experience by quitting cold turkey off of these opioids will be living hell!! Opiods is perhaps is the most painful withdrawal over any other drug-legal and illegal
I'm sorry about your pain but saying you feel like killing yourself will definitely never get your pain pills back. Depression is a red flag.
Andrew Porter I don't know, I can't see anyone that would pay $30 for one pill and what would an old guy like this know about selling them. Who would do business with the elderly gentleman. Without killing him for his stash. That's just bad advise. I know you probably mean well but in this case it's bad advise.
I agree, chronic pain is REAL. And there's the other dr's out there who are getting the big kick backs and don't care if your destroying yourself. Your suffering just makes their bank accounts BIGGER, while we unfortunately don't really have the right medical alternatives. It's hell living with chronic PAIN. Opioids it is, pain management- joke
Dam.. I look at all these videos and read all the comments about how bad people get treated at the pain clinics. I guess I'm fortunate to have a pain doctor who really listens to me and treats me good.
Anthony you're lucky. Most pain management docs do treat you with suspicion as soon as you walk through the door. They assess your pain, and then refer you to about 3 other doctors to do the same. They send you to get an mri, then they send you to a neurologist then they give you another appointment with them. It can only be the doctors they're in partnership with, and if you miss any of the appointments they set for you they stop helping you. If you refuse something in their treatment they stop helping you. They will give you drugs at first, but they start treating you with suspicion based on a drug they gave you in the first place. Then they stop giving them to you all together
Anthony amen to that! I've been with my Doc 11 years and I pray for his safety and health daily. My doctor has to turn folks away unfortunately because he has to cover his ass. He will only take patients who are basically going to die as a result of what is causing the pain and they have to be able to provide documentation of it. It saddens him to have to turn people away but at least I don't worry about the DEA crashing through the office! Take care!
Anthony then it's getting passed the pharmacist is a second challenge
Hass C my pain management dr reccomended a pharmacy for me when after 6 years of being treated fine at wallgreens i got a jerk pharmasist that said "your dr must be a quack! Im not filling this!" i replied with" look him up hes one of the top 200 anestiesiologists in the country!" dude still said no, so i called the office and they sent me to an awesome pharmacy that also requires documentation, but at least im treated well. Take care!
Casandra Bullock last yr i got Vicodin for my wisdom tooth and took it to a local pharmacy cause codeine made me nauseous and she said i can't give u this cause it has the same ingredients as Vicodin does I said this helps me more and doesnt get me sick I had to argue with them til they finally did it
This is propaganda.
AND FAKE
The “PAIN MANAGEMENT PROPAGANDA PROGRAM!”
PROP-aganda.....
@@LDuke-pc7kq Yeah really.
It very well is.
Today, I am so thankful to the Lord for my humane , compassionate and kind pain doctor. I’ve been with him for 12 years. Amazing highly respected doctor among his peers. There’s nothing we can’t talk about and no questions I’m afraid to ask. Once again just very thankful ❤
From Singapore here. for last 20 years after accident that took away my T1, been enduring the pain as nothing works till 3 years ago when i was oxy but the doctor stopped last year .... those 2 years were the happiest days when i dont have to struggle every single second ...
This video makes me cringe, it's every pain patients worst nightmare come true. Too many of us have been treated this way by doctors who haven't got a damned clue what they are talking about. Too many doctors see drug seeking or addictive behavior in every patient who wants opioids. Besides, it's best to deny opioids to pain patients, for our own good, right? Except it causes brain damage. All for our own good. That's why pain patients have sleep problems, why we can't focus or decide or remember, we are too exhausted from fighting the pain. Our brains are on full pain alert 24/7 and our nerves get rewired from all the pounding pain signals our broken bodies are sending. The studies showing morphine "doesn't help" only concerns some patients who reacted that way, not all people who take opioids experience this. This has been used as a "feel good" excuse for doctors who know, deep down, that they should manage pain and not allow people to suffer despite the political climate. It's bull shit, but they keep saying it, like that will eventually make it true. We get to suffer for something other people, drug abusers, did. It's not fair or for our own good.
D. Moore Thank you D. Moore. Well put truth. It’s out there but not too damn popular. I wish more of societies weakest could fight better for their rights like others. I believe it will take time...maybe a bunch of time but this will one day swing back the other way..you know, like eggs bad..cholesterol...no no, eggs good. Butter bad...no no, butter good, margarine bad. These people have their heads up their asses when publishing all the bullshit and I’m so glad people call them on it. The data can be skewed with just the mention of a few words or unorthodox testing..and people believe it ‘because they (the so-called experts)say so’...SHEEPLE!!! Most are too lazy to do their own true research and the more hype and sensationalism in the media makes it even truer!! HAH!! BS!!
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thank you. maybe his pain wasn't treated in the first place and cause he was honest here's what happens. we all know what happens and we all live in fear. thank god I been able to be compliant even when my pain went out of control. you can't say anything-this is what happens to you and we all know it and if you're really in pain god help us all help them educate the docs on the truthof pain, addiction, tolerance, treating real pain.
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Did you hear the part about the patient going to two other doctors for the same meds *and* calling his prescription as having been stolen? This patient broke his opiate agreement and lied to the doctor's face multiple times Being thrown out of a program for breaking the rules of the program is a consequence of his own actions.
@@DMoore-em7is come on get off the bullshit all your doing is replacing one drug for an another....you all dr.s and big pharma are the reason why there is an huge epidemic in the U.S.its all about $$$$$.its a fucking joke
Mr primary doctor was clam digging and when he pulled the clam gun out of the wet sand he immediately felt a sharp pain and pop in his lower back. Went to the ground and couldn't get back up. They couldn't even get an ambulance down to him due to the soft sand. They had to back board him about a half mile in excruciating pain. He lost his bowels and bladder too. He had surgery the following day. He is still in chronic pain today because the fusion is not working. He does have sympathy for pain patients now.
I bet
I think before they pass med school, they should have to feel what a broken leg feels like, and then they will have something to reference it to.
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As a CPP myself, if I sat my happy ass in the exam room and the doctor told me that he found out that I'd been "doctor shopping" and prescribed more pain meds, I wouldn't have a pain management doctor any more. Further more, if I also sat there repeatedly saying how I needed something stronger, the way this guy did, I'd be cut off immediately as well! This patient is a "drug seeker".. the very kind who makes legitimate patients like myself and thousands of others look bad. Without going into horrid detail, I have a connective tissue disorder and chiari malformation (you know, that condition where your cerebellum falls out of your skull into your spinal canal), and now my pain management team is force tapering me from my opioid pain meds. Here's the kicker though... IF the lower amount of doses stop working, they'll put me on a higher opioid pain meds than what I'm on!🤦♀️So, cut me off of something that works, I'm not addicted, and I'm mostly functional(even though I'm still disabled), just to FORCE me to take something that will make me non-functional, and potentially not work as well. THIS is what happens when government controls what our doctors do.
Our doctors are pure evil right now. End of story.
@Walter “The Cat Yeeter” B Yeah well be glad you don’t need one.
If you take opioids your addicted, so stop with with the virtue signaling you fool nobody, you don't know how another pp feels ,what makes your pain so much worse, delusional addict.
Never judge!
I hate the pain scale. Lately I have been thinking about using it on them! How is your day dr? On scale from 1 to 10 how good would you rate your day? Does anything make it worse? Maybe the day itself is the problem. Honestly!
Doctor: “So you’re in a lot of pain because the pain medication that I have been giving you was never strong enough to begin with? Okay…But now that I’ve got you addicted to the pain meds, I’m going to stop them altogether. But I don’t want you to think of it as ‘Cold Turkey’, because I’m gonna (insert air quotes) prescribe joining a support group and start practicing meditation.”
Patient: “I’m 65 years old. I’ve served my country. I have lead an honest life. I’ve worked hard my entire life. Along the way I’ve sustained some serious, debilitating injuries. And now I’m in constant pain. In fact, I’m in more pain now than when I first started seeing you. And you asked me to rate my pain, which just sitting here is at an 8 out of 10. But ya know doc…I think talking to a bunch of strangers in a musty old church basement, sharing cookies and coffee, is just what the doctor ordered…pardon the pun. And then when I get home, I’ll light some incense, turn the lights down low and do some Hari Krishna chants. Hell, I’ll be good as new in no time. Thanks doc; you just changed my life!”
Patient’s Spouse: Arrives home and smells something strange in the air. “Hmm…That is a familiar smell…but…but why would THAT smell be INSIDE my home?” Suddenly realizing what that smell is, she rushes downstairs and finds her husband of 50 years sprawled out in his recliner with his brains spattered all over the wall. Then, standing with tears streaming down her face, in the gunpowder filled room, she finds a note: “I can’t live with this pain any longer.”
Doctor: “What time is my tee time at the club? Sure am looking forward to going to my lake house this weekend! But wait…gotta write myself a prescription for my back pain before I go. Sure is good to be me! Hell, I don’t even have a back injury….prescribing medication to myself is just one of the perks of being a doctor! And people say doctors act like they are God. Hell, I don’t ACT like I’m God; I AM GOD! Now, where did I put my keys to my Jaguar? Don’t bother calling me this weekend, I’m gonna be busy enjoying life!”
As a cop, I responded to this EXACT call.
Now that I’m retired due to breaking my back on the job, and being in constant pain, I now better understand that man’s dilemma. And to this day, I still see his sad and lonely widow around town. She’s now in her mid 80s, closer to 90. I just shake my head in sorrow and anger when I think of how that “doctor” changed her life forever.
i have chronic pain been in a wheelchair 20 years im 35 and my at home primary doc just cut me off today for no reason on hdyrocodone 10s which i have been taking correctly for four years now idk wtf im gonna do and ive never seen a pain management doctor so idk im in pain all day every day i have scars up and down my body metal in my back and about 30 surgeries to account for i live in chronic pain and she told me no more meds and didnt tell me why or even give me any alternative also ive told her for five months my pain is getting worse in my hips from idk sitting down for 20 years and i asked her to up my pain meds she said she cannot. what? why?
@@veronicasmith2909goto prescriber check up. Find a doctor that prescribes a lot of hydrocodone. That didn’t get locked up.
There are good pain management doctors out there.
I've been on oxycodone since 2010. I have Harrington Rods and a clamp in my spine. I've tried marijuana to hydrocodone and nothing works like oxycodone.
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Well guess what you might be like me taken off your pain meds
I was exactly where this guy is except I didn’t cheat or double dr.. I was on opioids for 25 years or more. The idea of going off the opioids scared the hell out of me. 3 weeks ago, I started the suboxone microdosing and it has been a godsend. I highly recommend it no matter what kind of pain your in. I have nerve damage from multiple disc protrusions and operations. My pain is under control. I still have the numbness, stiffness and weak leg but I can handle it because the pain is so much better. I’m 70 years old and suboxone is giving me my life back. If you’re on opioids for pain, buprenorphine is the answer.
@@johnsonpearls5460 Your link has nothing to do with buying anything
Okay Ritalin is the solution for all addiction except porn addiction
As a friend of my who is a doctor has stated, withdrawal from opiates for an addict is a lesson, don’t abuse opiates ever again, but to a pain patient it’s torture.
This is some bullshit rationalization to justify torturing anyone who he considers to be an addict.
Overly simplistic and not convincing coming from a doctor being judgmental
@@cknut9252 - What does that mean? 🤔
No doctor would ever say that
@@cknut9252 - No doctor would ever say what? A lesson vs torture? 😳 Or what’s in the video? 🤔
One doctor told me that opioids cause pain. So what caused the pain the 2 years before any pain medication?
My doctor is saying the same crap to me! I told him that it’s the same pain I was having during the whole time I couldn’t find any medicine to even touch the pain… They are basically trained liars at this point.
I had the best question in history after my dr said we only treat symptoms - HOW DO YOU INTEND TO REMOVE A MEDICATION THAT CAUSES THE SYMPTOMS THAT IT TREATS IF DRS ONLY TREAT SYMPTOMS.
To me it proves chronic pain patients lack endorphins and simply require the substitute consistently and they are the Jekyll Hyde causing more pain for profits.
@@andreah6175
They do not cause pain! That’s absurd.
@@anti-ethniccleansing465 I have taken Opoids for years. It can cause a greater sensitivity to pain. This is what they are referring to when suggesting it caused pain. There is a tradeoff with all medicine Unfortunately for severe and chronic pain opiods work best.
Facts, opioid analgesic therapy work for 99% of all chronic pain patients and less than 1% become addicted or have OUD.
I had a baby & got a second degree perineal tear. Which means, i tore muscle & had to get stitches. I had lortabs while in the hospital & was discharged with none. I took less than recommend which i usually try to do so i can wean off. I was afraid to ask for more & so I trusted her judgement. I threw up for a week & discontinued breastfeeding because of it. (Lortabs are safe while nursing by the way) It hurts to walk, or sit because of the downward pull gravity has on my stitches. It’s been 5 weeks. I’ve called & was told to soak in a bath or sitz bath. I tried several times & It made it worse. I made it to the doctor because it was just too much & wondered if i had an infection. She said it was normal & I was told to begin light jogging. No paperwork on how to pain manage with meditation or anything. Just start jogging. :) It is of course too late to prescribe me meds now, but I think in the beginning, it was the wrong call to not prescribe them for my first week home. I came here seeking help on how to manage my pain with other methods so I can take care of my little girl & all I get is the view from the doctors point of view. I’m so angry, I could spit. I am not an addict. Im afraid to doctor shop & wouldn’t dare. I have no drug dealer so how could i even become an addict? I’m tired of being afraid to complain to my doctor & so I go home, just about pass out, throw up & have to miss out on nursing my daughter. We trust our doctors but they don’t trust us because of bastards like this. This system sucks.
a soak for a tear or what. that's like my ibuprophen for spinal cancer. why don't they give us a sugar pill. seriously I have some med for pain but I was given ibuprophen for breakthrough cancer pain. you're lucky you don't have a lifelong painful condition or are dying slowly and painfully---cancer lingers for years spreads comes goes who knows anymore. had chemo, radiation, body part removed, much more. in the spine still walking but doesn't always feel too good try and get help. i''m sorry this happened to you also
Jogging just after having a baby 😱😱😱😱
@Walter B It seems like almost every INSANE comment is from YOU WALTER! You are a true Dirt-Bag! Hope Karma has already taken car of you!
@@deborahmorani3139 it’s the area between you anus and puss
George goes home, detoxes, and breaks out his 12 gauge. edited for contents (sad)
And appplys for a job with the Post Office!!! Love your sinse of humor Peter
Peter Wilson
😂😂😂😂😉 so true, so true !!!
Even though I am blessed to have an amazing pain management doctor
Hey... ( even a blind squirrel can get a nut once in a while )
Anyhow, you don't know how many times I just really truly want to amputate my legs from the waist down. Crushed by a horse, damaged terribly. But what you said was spot on.
Poor George, 😕 but..... he did kinda set himself up.....don't get caught looking at other doctors in BIG BROTHERS database.....😜
That sounds like Your Pain Management Doc. as LUCK,and im blessed with one also,, I Out lived the last Pain Management place,,and Im Only 60!! Thanks Lucy
Lucylovewalk
I have a Great PM Doctor as well. I feel so Blessed that he is my doctor! On June 2nd. I just had a Medtronic pain pump put in. I'm hoping this will be a positive in treating my pain issues.
+Al Falcon , Amen to that! It really happens exactly like that! Dont ask me how i know so well 😕
I have scoliosis,neck injury's ,lower back injury and hit by a pickup truck. I have learned not to depend on drugs for relief and only take a tylenol or two when it's real bad. I also take vitamins and eat healthy. I stay in bed and hardly move when I know it's getting bad, which can sometimes take 3 days to 3 weeks to heal. Afterwards i'm ok for a while until I have over done myself , then it's back to the bed. I have been doing this for years and will continue to do so , for it is better than surgery or a painful withdrawal , plus I want to feel when I heal. good luck to all those dealing with pain.
for years. are you going to heal to feel cause I'm not . I will die. was supposed to already but didn't maybe it'll take 20yrs, hope not. if when you don't heal aren't going to and what you are going to feel is pain well that is your only choice unless you have pain management w/ the cuts wthdrls etc what is better. a few good day or hours a day or none
Get the damn surgery!
read your reply. I agree. I have spinal cancer and didn't die as expected. you got it pain management cuts w/drwls can't tell em. what to do. I know what a lot are doing . try not to. be grateful for the help you get for now, if you add to the prob you get thrown off. the state tells what to give and it's not enough,pain management is hard today.. still some help ok. have no answers. some docs in calif. etc are learning about pain and educating but few can afford or get the txs yet he talks about.for pain and for detox w/ out bad w/drawl if you get in trouble. other docs won't advocate or stand up. don't want dea knocking on their door before the good ones really get the word out. the txs available to others than the few rich or poor that were there for research.
Not everyone is lucky like that I can't stay in bed all day I have bills to pay it must be nice
@@christinabrumbley9422
EXACTLY, WHO WANTS TO BE IN BED ALL DAY "F" THAT!!
thanks to all the junkies out there who made it extremely difficult for true honest pain sufferers
"opioids actually increase your pain" holy shit this guy is 100% a actor... so when you break your leg or get hit by a car and have a crushed pelvis imagine the doctor coming into your room and you are screaming in agony and he says nah no morphine for you it may increase your pain!! Wow this shit makes me so scared to get old and have some chronic pain issue only to be treated like a junkie.... Maybe he went to a few other doctors to see if they can help or recommend something different.. Your basically telling the guy to hit the street for your pharmaceuticals... nice job doc no wonder there is a heroin/opioid epidemic ravaging America...
STABLE GENIUS PUSSY GRABBER
My drs have said that to me before
No, he's not wrong you moron. Go read about it and stop spreading your misinformed bullshit. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opioid-induced_hyperalgesia
If you are under 60 years of age always ask for Ritalin when asking for pain medication. Ritalin is the solution for all addiction except porn addiction
I think he meant to say in the LONG RUN… pain meds won’t work as sufficient and actually cause pain unless you take higher and higher Doses….
He didn’t mean right after you take it, he means your pain goes up because your tolerance to the pills is going up, so when you require more pills your baseline pain goes up.
Maybe the opiates are causing *more* pain...what a lunatic !
lortab can actually cause rebound pain used to take 6 per day but morphine saved my life I have tried it all been through it all and no doctor treats people like this but mine is close
Pain meds making it worse...!!!???nuts that's just nuts.
No, it's not nuts. It's called rebound hyperalgesia and is very real.
It's actually true. Opioids, like any foreign substance in the body, are toxins and toxins cause enhanced glial cell activity. Glia are the most abundant cell in the body. When the glia are excited by the presence of toxins, they release substances that increase neuronal excitability, leading to pain enhancement, including an array of proinflammatory cytokines which, in turn, trigger an increase in the activity of pain-signaling neurotransmitters. Further, from my reading, the introduction of opioids activates a protein in the body called TLR4, which, in turn, also signals the production of inflammatory cytokines.
There's a very elaborate, complex system of chain reactions that takes place in the body that leads to enhanced rebound pain during and (for ~3 weeks) after the cessation of opioid therapy (the ~3 week estimate was based on a rat study and was personally experienced by me). So, yeah, opioid-induced hyperalgesia is very real.
Still, opioids have their place in pain management and many patients live productive, active lives for decades on steady, never increased doses of opioid medication. Others do need increases over the years, some due to genetic anomalies, others due to the natural process of tolerance (which glia are also involved with), but they never get addicted and they get pain relief and they lead normal, productive lives.
So I am pro-opioid. These drugs are a necessity for adequate, effective, humane pain management.
#DontPunishPain #endopiophobia
its true because what happens is people will take more and more pills which eventually lose their effectiveness..
i started hanging drywall at age 17yrs old now im 46yrs now my body feels like i been thru down a 2nd story building i think i would better off dead than this i HATE to see the morning come because i know what im in store for that day
GOD bless you man, i know to well how you feel.
the problem is they think evrrybody is getting dependent of pain meds! well of course their getting dependent on the pills because they have a pain problem!!! besides if your taking something like lortab you dont have much of an issue with pain because that stuff wouldnt get rid of a headache as far as im concerned and tylenol is the most worthless there is!!!
ya think
Drug addicts are treated with more dignity and compassion than chronic pain and cancer patients...that is just plain wrong
Seven times he stated he needed something stronger. I know docs that upon getting that letter from the insurance company wouldn't have even given him other options...they would have said, "bye bye" and breathed a sigh of relief when he walked out the door.
Yea the DEA outside to arrest his painful ass.I cant believe a guy like that isn't in cuffs.3 doctors and a stolen script.
OK I've been in chronic pain management for 20 years and this guy is NOT taking them for the right reasons. no.1 he doc shopped at 2 other drs
2.he called in middle of month saying his pills were "stolen"😌
3.must have said at least ten times "I need something stronger"
4.wouldnt even listen when the dr offered to taper him and put him on Suboxone(I'm actually AMAZED he offered that! my dr, you violate your pain agreement,unless you have a good explanation, you get discharged!
if he would have just played by the rules he'd still have his doctor
This is an educational video making it appear that everyone is like George and all pain doctor are so nice. Any other doc would throw you out on you ear for doctor shopping. The doc said that his door is always open to him if he changed his mind. This is s bullshit video! I believe you are amazed that the doc offered him Suboxone, because in real life, it would not have happen. I got discharged for failing a urine test A false positive or she tampered with the urine test to get rid of me because she said I had no tramadol in my urine for the whole month which is a fucking lie. I need my tramadol. Plus most doctors are not as nice as George's. They treat you like dirt.
This is not a moral issue..it's all physiological & medical. He still needs help-either way.
dogwomanhere. Absolutely, what is a person to do if their doctor is not helping ? There are only two choices, suffer and let your life slip away or do what you have to do and find medication on the street. It's a no brainer to what a person will choose. The drug dealers are loving this! Herion is back stronger than ever, and it won't be long before the drug cartels are manufacturing their own opiate based pills and they are all over the streets, while they get filthy rich ! Good job guy's!!! Fixed another problem didn't you!!!
Mike Mendillo you hit the nail on the head there for sure!! With the quality of life or actually lack thereof, so many people go to the streets and likely couldn’t care if they died doing so..better than the treatment from some drs. The pain, the indignity..the suffering...is it worth it? 😔😔😖☹️
Steve Turk I changed Doctors not long ago, the best thing I ever did ! If your not getting satisfactory results,, move on ! Don't be afraid ! My new doctor doubled my meds first visit. I told him straight up what was going on and he understood.
Too many physicians like this. Refuse to move to interventional medicine yet they’ll feed you this crap that no pills are better. My choice between addiction and chronic pain, is addiction 100%. The fact that you have people who only understand the literature behind this, making decisions, is part of the problem. Physicians in North America need to start thinking outside the box. I’ve seen too many physicians that just want to go through the motions and that’s it. A lot of people don’t realize there’s a whole realm of interventional options that are far superior to pills, and don’t come with the risks.
I was in the same position as this guy and 2 months ago was put on Suboxone. My pains gone from an 8 even on huge doses of of morphine and then fentanyl. My pain is now an average of 4-5. I'm so much happier!
FYI I am on this for chronic pain, not as a drug abuser.
I just watched more of this video, I think he may be abusing his meds....I thought at the start he was legit until I watched more.
These are actors! This is an educational video! Yes it appears he's doctor shopping and the doctor thinks so too and abusing his drugs and trying to do what is best for him. His pain level is only a 9 without pain meds and mine is 20+. The doctor is so so nice and reasonable, but in real life they treat you like shit and accuse you of dealing and or being an addicted and cut you off cold turkey like what was done to me. I had to call my old doctor and he gave me a months supply of tramadol. I will be out in 2 weeks. I don't think he will do it again because he is not a pain doctor and I am poor and can't pay out of my pocket and there is a 2 month wait at one stupid pain clinic. You are lucky that your pain was just a eight and that it helped you, but I was given no options.I was sent a letter telling me my doc had retired. I made an app. The nurse practitioner cut me off cold turkey and never called back with the pain doc referral that accepts my insurance. She also told me in the long run pain meds don't work at all and get alternative treatments and pay out of pocket.
Meg Kampen the pain scale doesn't go over 10 therefore if you think of the worse pain possible you are a 10. I have been at a 10. When I broke my back and my whole vertebrae crushed and I went into shock because the pain was so bad. I've had chronic pain for years now so you don't need to lecture me about doctors. If I get treated in anyway disrespectful I change doctors.
I would be saving for a pain doctor quick smart. If your pain was at a ten tramadol would do nothing. I've been on 110mg of morphine and oxycodone for breakthrough pain and some days my pain was at an 8. Now I'm on Suboxone for chronic pain (in Australia) my pain has halved. They won't put you on it tho if you haven't been on long term opiods that are not giving you much relief and also on a high dose for your pain. I guess your probably in American?
Lia Greene I am not just on Tramadol I wish..That doesn't do anything on it's own. I don't care what the pain scale says.What happened to you in the accident was beyond a 10.We have a 10+ scale and beyond in America. I'm sure they didn't just give you Suboxone when you first had that accident. That isn't what we are talking about. We are talking about what is happening know. Let me rephrase everything. I wish I was in that actor's position with a pain level as low as his and a kind doctor willing to work with him and he refuses even after doctor shopping which would get anyone else thrown out on their ear.. I wish I could find a doctor like that in WA.There is a 10+ and I am beyond that. Without pain medication I am screaming at the top of my lungs 24/7 in bed week after week.I have been suffering from PTS for years now because of it My pain started as a nine. I wish I was a nine. I know what a nine feels like and I know what it feels like when it feels like someone is sticking a knife in your chest and twisting it twisting it back and forth and disemboweling me every second of the day, electrocuting me and not sleeping for 3 solid days. I have been on daily morphine injections combined with other meds but they won't give it to me in WA State I have a 2 week supply left of my meds, tramadol being only one pf them. If I don't get some help, what choices do I have? Yes! It's that bad. I am glad things are working for you. You are one of the lucky ones. Your pain is now managed so please don't act like everyone else and tell me I don't hurt as much as I think I do. You can ask my roommate. He has seen me suffer. He has seen me denied as he took me from on ER to the next.. Please have some empathy for those who are not as lucky as you.This is America not Australia. They are cutting most if not all pain patients. All pain clinics will be discontinuing opiates for long teem use I wish I had the option of walking out of a pain specialist's office after being treated like shit but I am at their mercy and we don't have many left in this state. They are being closed down and heroin dealers are seeking out pain patients while heroin deaths rise.. Just watch the suicides rise in this God forsaken Country. I was referring to the video being fake. The doctors are not that nice especially to someone who has been doctor shopping. It is a propaganda video. Remember, everyone is different. Pain is different. What works for one person may not work for another. I don't even know what you are using Suboxone for. They wouldn't give it to anyone here but only temporarily for withdrawal of opiates and since they now consider Tramadol an opiate I guess I qualify, but only temporarily. Are you pain med free now since this drug is meant for withdrawal? I wasn't giving you lecture. I was basically telling you the video is bullshiit. I don't know why you took it personally.This is a witch hunt. You should thank God you live in Australia You should watch some of these other real videos on you-tube and see the suffering that is happening in this country and the deaths from being denied pain medication.
I was put on the 75mcg Fentanyl patch back in July along with Norco 10/325 (up to 6 a day) and it has proven to be a life saver. I also at about a 4-5 now. Tried a few different brands of patches and found out Mylan works the best for me.
I would say that Lortab is more moderate pain. Even if it is the 10mgs tablet! Percocet is a lot more effective in treating chronic pain
Dr. Have you ever read about pseudo addiction will have you ever heard of explain it to your patients and also have you read all the medical information on this for certain amount of time for it to work and slowly he can go back to what was working the best before it was increased to high..... if you consider the opiate that he is on strong when you don't know anything about pain what are they forcing
i was not able to control my meds so they placed a unit under my skin. reload about every 50 days 5yrs. i always was lesspain but about killed me. i am almost clean again pain same. i am unable to say correct words at doc. to be partial dead is very hard and i am large person so i am scary. fading away finally.i use to eat 10/10s from zero. i hate pills more than others for personal. good luck wonder why i was not warned of it or made to understand you can damage body easy and strong pain no leave from it ever. other damage but pain did leave like we all know. i hope i see spring but a hot one from a pumped up cop might be good. i loved my country very much.my grow up family sucked. their i said it.
@ReviewCam Everyone is different. For me, Percocet doesn't work at all...don't feel it. Vicodin or Oxycontin is way better for my moderate pain. Only Dilaudid works for excruciating "I want to die" pain. Hell, I was given IV Fentanyl (never asked for it) in the hospital and it did less than Xanax.
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Yeah....well....My wife has had fibromyalgia for 20+ years. I've never doubted her pain-she is absolutely not a "pill person". I have had to prompt her to take her pain meds. I developed spinal stenosis - drugs, fusion, 🎶🎶
All I want to say is you can't really appreciate chronic pain until you experience it yourself. The feeling is impossible to explain rationally. Best wishes/luck to all.
Fibro is either from low Fit D3 to long, being under medicated or EMF allergies (observed only in Sweden) US profits to much off it. See my video what happens if you try and reveal truth/corruption
I’m dealing with spinal stenosis and degenerative disc disease from T2 vertebrae down to my tailbone. My pain management doctor is determined to get me off 5/325 hydrocodone. Prior to that, I was on the fentanyl patch and I weaned myself off of those! I have tried physical therapy and yoga and even meditation, but I am basically bedbound from the pain. I do get an epidural injection once a month but with so much damage and pain all up my spine, the injection (my insurance will only pay for ONE each month), there is no way to control my pain. I get a lumbar injection and the next month, a thoracic injection, so we’re pretty much just chasing the dragon... my doc is stubborn about the TINY 5/325 hydrocodone dose and is about to stop giving me any painkillers. For the record, I only take the hydrocodone when I need it, not every three hours like the prescription reads. Doctors know NOTHING about living with this kind of pain! 🤬
Always ask for Ritalin when asking for pain medication
If you become addicted to Ritalin, go to nude yoga
You mean like 4-6 hours haven’t seen 3 hours before must be getting over 240 pills a month then
Also ask for soma 350mg it works really good for pain
Sorry to say my sad friend but your doctor's giving you a level of pain medicine 325 mg of Tylenol times 3 times a day that's 1000mg will destroy your liver and your kidneys and obviously your doctor doesn't give a crap about your endocrine system hydrocodone 15 mg immediate-release is the blessing from God if you don't abuse it it works awesome, the government's controlling our doctors because in the 80s 90s and 2000's thousands of doctors made millions off overprescribing people I seen the kid in Florida that had a motorcycle accident and was exhibiting no pain and they gave him for 60s add a 20 methadone a month a hundred number five bar Xanax and 120 15 mg immediate-release oxycontin it was a shopping bag full list was 1993 and I hope a lot of those doctors are in jail but the doctors themselves are the ones that caused the opiate epidemic and the Mexican cartels and Biden are allowing the poison to come across the border and kill over 100,000 Americans a year if that's not a crisis than what the hell is a war all about
I have been taking pain medication for 35 years and never got addicted. once I recover from medical issue I stop taking it. its WRONG to make EVERYONE in pain suffer, due to some greedy doctors and a small percentage of the population that gets addicted. More resources should be directed toward helping people but not denying EVERYONE else pain medication.
If you took pain med over the age of 50, you won’t be addicted
If anybody's doctor does this to them and could be this cold hearted and calloused about their pain complaints, if they drop you the first thing you need to do is go to the State Licensing Board and file a formal complaint for neglecting your medical care. You need to file a formal complaint against a doctor who would take away pain medication from someone who has a legitimate medical condition. After that, start writing your senators and governors regarding doctors neglecting patients comma and use that doctor's name specifically. If your doctor is on one of those top 100 lists, find where you can write to get him/her off of it. Doctors like this should not have the right to practice.
this is quoted text book teaching for pain providers today. what do you think is gonna hap to you. hope you don't need pain meds cause you will be fucked with. it would make sense to do what you say but it is not the reality in todays world in America. sorry.
U HAVE SEVERE CHRONIC PAIN AND IVE BEEN SO STRESSED ABOUT MAYBE NOT BEING ABLE TO GET MY MEDS I HAVE HAD LOW BACK SURGERY AND NECK SURGERY 3 X AND THE MIDDLE OF MY BACK FEELS BROKE BUT IM FINALLY GETTING AN MRI TO SEE WHATS WRONG PLUS I HAVE OSTEOPEROSIS ARTHRITIS AND FIBRO
How about when Gabapentin is pushed as the cure all, and Gabapentin was the issue, but nobody addressed it? Make the game fair, psychologically analyze physicians as much as patients…🔥🔥🔥
Here’s a true story...dec 2018
I was air-cared from one hospital to another because I had 4 back to back seizures.
And didn’t wake up in between them
After being in ICU for 5-6 days and then out of it (totally unaware) another 4-5 days in a normal room... I had been intubated
catheterized
feeding tube and
of course a IV...
When I finally came to...
my back hurt so bad... I
rang for pain meds...
Within 60-90 minutes I rang the nurse buzzer twice...
and I never received medication...
A dr and a resident or intern was with him. I said “can you please ask my nurse for pain medication?”
The intern/resident said “Ma’am if you ask for pain medication again we are going to label you a drug seeker in your chart!”
AND she was rude!
She literally raised her voice to me.
I started to sob but thank goodness my almost perfect husband was there - he saw how the dr looked at her...
and the actual doctor apologized ... within 10 minutes I had pain meds.
I have broken Harrington rods in my back BUT
I would think even someone with perfect health...if they laid in one of those God awful hospital beds for 10 plus days...their back would be sore to...
You sure can tell the people who are in the medical field because it’s truly a calling and the ones who are there for the money 😞
Perhaps medical school needs to add a SEMESTER (not just a class) on compassion...
I don’t know...I’m not in the medical field so maybe I just don’t have a clue...but how about rather than treating everyone like a drug seeker...you treat EVERYONE with compassion and
just run that risk ...
take a chance ...
of being decent to the
“drug seeker?” In case
they are not...
ESPECIALLY when the patient has been in ICU and the hospital for two weeks?!?!?
What did they think I was going to do...have a pain medication and party down by making the top of the hospital bed go up and down super fast?!?!
Grrrr I’m sorry...
that’s not even funny...
I’m just really getting upset with this “ASSuming” every one who says
pain is abusing medication...
EXACTLY!!!😘💯❤
hey guys I think he just needs something stronger.
ReviewCam That may be, but the Dr shopping is what hurts those of us who are in pain and can't even find a Dr in our area who prescribes them anymore. Not to mention, to get pain meds, you sign a contract stating that you'll not get them from other Drs.
Dr shopping breaks the contract you have to sign to get pain meds. It's guys like this, and there are lots of them, that make it hard for those of us who are actually in real pain. It's getting so that we're all being treated like addicts, and are mistrusted and disrespected by pain Drs.
no one knows how you feel on the inside except for yourself -how can this idiotic doctor sit there claiming that he knows how bad the pain is,yet he knows nothing. i
@@carlahead5072 exactly, but the fact that he's been Dr. shopping and calling in that his medication is been stolen and all that it surely puts you on the black list, if he would have been smarter he would have just stick to that doctor and do it smarter, he still be getting his medication. Once you're cut forget it, when he goes to the next doctor he's immediately going to be red flaged, the next doctor is going to see who your doctor was, check the prescription monitoring program and find out what truly happened. I feel for George but he's screwed.
This is a totally scripted propaganda video, but if that patient were real- yeah, he just needs a stronger dose or a different medication. This is medicine folks, not some dumbed down, hyperbolic and insipid article off the internet. For decades patients doses have been titrated to the level that works for the patient. Actual pain patients that wind up with OUD are far less than 1% of all patients. This is FACT. We are not young people getting high. Throwing the two illnesses together was done to make others money. Everything that has come out of Andrew “ dr. Mengele” Kolodny has been done to enrich himself. The statements he makes about chronic pain patients are so insulting and factually wrong yet the government thinks he can help them win that money grab. These constitutional and human rights abuses cannot continue as they have already killed thousands with their greed.
The first clue was when he said it takes him 5 minutes to get out of bed, Intractable Pain Sufferers count that time in hours.
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Right?! It takes me at least two hours to get out of bed in the morning! My doctor thinks it’s all in my head though, of course. : /
I thought that very same thing
Great job not just straight out accusing him of lying, but obviously I am in Pain Management and have been for five years myself, and I know that if my doctor saw me picking up prescriptions from other places, she would without a doubt throw me out of the practice immediately and cancel any refills that I might have That’s not abandonment at that point this patient has clearly lied but you’re doing a great job and did a great job of redirecting him and using his desire for the opioids in order to control the visit to avoid him being argumentative really great charisma here great patient interaction love what you did here really I was a counselor for years before a tragic accident left me in a wheelchair and with severe back injuries, and totally blind with a severe brain injury as well however, although I am an opioid user, I am certainly an educator 10:10
Dependency and addiction are not the same!
This guy sounds like an addict though.
If you handled his pain he wouldn’t be doctor shopping. Now you take it away and he probably wished he was dead. Pain Sucks! Thank you CDC. 25 years of pain management and I followed all the rules. Now I am missing work and will soon be on disability. Or I’ll be looking for them online. You ruined my credit and my life CDC.
I hear you. try cancer . want to know what getting really fd is. they need to treat pain better today. addiction=the addicts are having a party while legit pain pts are inhumanely treated.
According to Food & Drug Administration; Ritalin is the solution for all addiction
Obviously this doctor didn’t suffer with back pain.
PS In my hospital record they put me down as a drug seeker for asking my own doctors for help. I want to stress that the medical professionals have been flippant about ignoring my constant pain, take a Tylenol. We don't prescribe opiods for cancer pain.
You have to embrace the pain. It’s one of the pillars of the human condition.
I’m not interested in doing that
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Death is the ultimate opioid.
Oh stop it will you!
@@fixitright9709
You really don’t know pain until you try to get off these meds.
We need to stand TOGETHER AS ONE VOICE.
I’ll stand with you! If you are under 60 years of age, always ask for Ritalin when asking for pain medication. Ritalin is the solution for all addiction except porn addiction!
I'm with ya 💯
It is not uncommon for chronic pain patients to build up a tolerance for the meds over a long period of time, thus leaving them in more pain.
Thank you
How S he going to get to a support group in horrid pain?I've been on same amount for a long time.
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Let me put my situation out here. I am a pastor and a pain patient. My GP and I had a terrific relationship! I was randomly drug screened and passed every one. No issue.
Then....
I go to her for my monthly follow up. She tells me she is getting rid of all of her GP patients and will only focus on weight loss and HRT.
Terrific!
I have been on the same dosage for years. It works and I can function very well! I ended up finding a new doctor who told me he would not write for pain meds. He leveled with me and told me that every patient my old GP sent him was on some sort of narcotic! Every. Single. One! Whoa!
She was terrified of losing her license! She put me through hell and without so much as a kiss my butt. Sorry. She let me down.
By the way my new GP told me that based upon my openness and honesty he decided he would write for my pain meds. It is a little less frequent but I can manage. Oh yeah. Here is a short list of why I am in pain.
*broken back. T3-5 disks are herniated.
*cancer surgery in my neck in 2000. This left a great deal of damage.
*spinal stenosis of my C3,4,& 5. 95% closed.
*I have had 2 strokes.
*I have had numerous dvt’s and pe’s.
*nerve damage in both legs.
*facial paralysis due to surgery.
*and numerous other issues.
If you are under 60 years of age, always ask for Ritalin when asking for pain medication. Ritalin is the solution for all addiction except porn addiction
These comments are ridiculous. As a soon to be doctor, I found this video helpful. 99+% of the time with such situations, the patients in these situations are there for true pain. But that doesn't mean it's clear cut, black and white. Here is something important to note: The medical field sucks at managing pain because we don't have it figured out! But we're trying our best. People do get addicted to these drugs and it's a sad deal. I really don't understand why this video is so upsetting. I'm sure there are bad docs out there, don't get me wrong, but this video is meant to train docs how to change approach with pain management. I am not here to say that pain should be taken lightly. Just that there are situations where knowing how to converse, like the physician does in this video, may save lives.
I hope you managed to become a doctor, this sounds like you gave actual thought to this.
As a patient with severe chronic pain from a rare condition that took a long time to diagnose correctly, I have had maybe 10% of my doctors even try to be this compassionate, BUT also, with doctors being increasingly fearful because of the DEA and general crackdown, there are conversations like this happening frequently when they are truly not the appropriate course of action. Years ago, I had to leave my Neuro PhD and move back home because I couldn’t get adequate pain treatment. The more I tried to explain the severity of the pain and that I sought help, the more closed out of treatment I became. These things permanently mentally traumatize patients in addition to the pain they’re suffering. It’s hard to feel charitable or understanding towards the healthcare community when you have been either ignored or victimized or demonized by it over and over.
This may be a difficult career conversation for the physician, but this is the patients whole life wrapped up in this interaction. Either they do have a use disorder and need more active help and instead just lost the link to their physician and also like to the med stabilizing them temporarily from turning to less safe alternatives, or they are being physically tortured by their body and are dealing with that and now bot only aren’t getting the increased management needed, but now have none. This increases risk for suicide, turning to illicit drugs, mental health crises, unstable financial situations because of loss of work, divorce and/or loss of child care ability/rights.
It seems callous to say the physician JUST (at the worst) has their license under fire, and that does impact their economic stability of course, but at the end of the day, comparatively, the patient is magnitudes more vulnerable in these scenarios and they’re reasonably going to lash out accordingly.
Another future clueless dr! SAD!! You will never get it unless you were in bad pain ALL THE TIME! This is criminal what you are doing to patients!
@@ChazinFl1 I wish you well sir! Pain sucks. Sometimes opioids are the optimal approach, sometimes not. It’s complicated and from the sounds of it, you’ve had some bad experiences. I hope you can find some people to help you.
@@McMomfaceplustwowell said! I have chronic back pain and now a failed rotator cuff surgery. Doing my best to deal with it all. I’m unable to do much of anything anymore, but keep trying. Seems the pain just sucks my energy away. I’m 74 y/o, taking Tylenol #2, and physical therapy. So many things I can no longer do. Take care.
The doctor should have confronted him about the "doctor shopping" and ask plain and simple for him to honestly answer if he does that because he feels he is not adequately dosed (which is obviously the case, unless he is selling the pills). Then the doctor should suggest to increase the dosage or switch to a stronger opiate and make sure in return that he has to stop going to other doctors. 10mg of lortab like 3-4 times a day is very low, so no wonder he has to go to several doctors to get a fair dose.
+Giacomo Ferrario Regardless if it's acted, the poin was in cases like this he should be honest and upfront with his doctor and be able to get proper treatment for his pain :)
@@kimmysplayhouse Actually patients do lie to their doctors because they've put them in such an uncomfortable place where telling the truth is one slight misstep away from losing all meds.
That is, in my opinion, the worst approach ever! This guy has already slid down the slippery slope of addiction and is lying and covering up his pill seeking behavior. He is a wholly at risk of full-blown addiction and all its ravaging effects. This Dr handled this perfectly, perfectly. If I was the Dr, I would have pointed out that any new Dr was going to want to consult with him as to his previous treatment and that quite likely, after doing so, would not be willing to write him pain prescriptions either, especially for even stronger meds. This guy has already come under scrutiny of the System, and Databases and his pill seeking behavior is likely over and done. I am in Recovery and have been on the same meds and same dosages for many years. Neither I, nor my Dr would even consider increasing my level of pain meds as to strength or frequency of administration. Either would be a Red Flag for me and my Dr.
He should of put him on ocycodone instead. Vicodin is not that strong anyway it helps with tooth pain but I was on it then I went to oxycodone and I’m on 40 MG a day. It helps more
@@kimmysplayhouseall he had to do is wait and talk to the doctor and said his pain is so bad that the meds just don’t bare it can I try something else
When I was living in Hong Kong I suffered osteonecrosis of both hips which meant the bone died and shattered into a million pieces. Consequently, my hip dislocated and swung out to the left and started withering. Eventually, I had a hip replacement but whilst waiting for this operation, my doctor was SO worried about the potential addiction of opiate drugs, he didn't prescribe any. Instead they gave me Tramadol, a synthetic opioid type drug that was utterly useless. On a scale from one to ten, i would say my pain was a nine and stayed that way until they blissfully replaced my hip four months later, which was pretty quick compared to a lot of health systems. I would have killed for something to relieve my pain. I even considered trying to buy heroin or ketamine for relief but didn't know anyone to buy the drugs. The funny thing is, as soon as I came back to Australia, my doctor put me on methadone whilst I await another hip replacement.
davidbmason *TRAMADOL 50 mg after a TKR ( Total Knee Replacement ) operation. I works very well for me!*
Methadone was the first medicine that helped me after a year of trying a lot of nonsense drugs post a failed back surgery. The next medicine that helped even more was oxycodone. Now my doctor is taking me off of my medicines and is effectively trying to make me commit suicide.
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Subutex and suboxone is absolutely useless once your pain is past a certain level. Moderate pain maybe but not severe pain.
Glad I have a good pain management dr !! I think ill keep my 30mg oxycodone and my 40mg Opana ER.
Yeah, might as well be taking Tylenol.
kenny Guy Where are you located? I just got kicked out of my PMC because I was doubling up on doses during severe pain. Are you in California?
Not for long :)
Wait till your doc cuts you off or he retires. Happened to me. Nobody taking new patiences. Its a complete nightmare. Dedox and live with pain is sadly the only way.
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Most pain mgt. doctors have never experienced chronic pain so they don't know what we go through. I have had 4 back operations and have to go for a fifth because the screws keep loosening up. This doctor is just like the rest, refusing to prescribe the proper opioids dosage for the patient. Since the government cracked down because some doctors were pill factories it hurts the thousands of us with severe chronic pain. If you're in pain management and complain the treatment isn't working they get rid of you and trying to get into another pain management clinic is hard and sometimes takes months if they are taking new patients. I found out the hard way by asking my last 2 doctors if they ever had chronic pain and they instantly got an attitude. I think that was a reasonable question because reading about pain does not mean you understand what living with it is like. There are a lot of medicines that would work if they would only try them.
true. one doc told me any human needs only this considered tiny dose of med. it's been proven scientifically. I am afraid of this one cause the other is on leave and a lot of patients may be hurting when they get assigned to her.
Can this Dr please show the studies where pain increases when taking opioids. I want the Studies ! Facts ! Proof !
Please tell me how opioids make pain worse. My Vicodin takes the pain away!
Such a shame that doctors cannot prescribe painkillers as freely as before. For one, those in pain, especially chronic pain, have to suffer or jump through a bunch of hoops to get their medication regimen, which likely isn’t enough. And also largely because people that took them illegally for recreational purposes remain dependent and...
Walaahhh now they can’t get opioids and it stops abuse, right!? Wrong. Now they oftentimes must take whatever opioid is available; IE: heroin, /street opiates or pills, possibly from overseas, or likely counterfeit pills with god knows what (fentanyl)
And no, these will never go away no matter how many people get jailed.
So now grandma betreace is in a lot more pain because the doctor cut her morphine and put her on Vicodin. And you got joe blow your neighbor who’s suffering and misses work because doctors won’t give him the Percocet he needs to function and reduce his back pain. So he now snorts heroin out of desperation, which costs him a ton of money and reduces his family’s quality of life.
And you got Jackie, who is a full time student in medical school residency, who takes Vicodin for fun on the side, who can not obtain it so she tries some stamped pill made overseas. It looks similar but is an obvious counterfeit. Well she overdosed and almost dies because it had too much fentanyl cut.
Fighting the “war on opioids” by cutting pain medication is a success!? I think not! It’s harmful to do so in reality.
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this is staged,i have seen George in other med teach videos.
weed is no golden goose I hate it. no seriously you are so right please too many people are really hurting over this. who is gonna help if they don't they took an oathw.the job and the money it makes. wait til the shit hits the fan and dea etc will go after the docs who didn't educate or advocate for patients in pain and what might be the end resultsss
deborah morani oh yes! There will be one hellish backlash coming when legit patients start dying..either from strokes or seizures or simply seeking out their own relief like heroin and maybe the poisonous kind. It’s all so stupid!! It’s now a ‘cover your ass’ exercise because of pure corporate greed!! Guess who will pay the ultimate price??...the lowest on the totem pole..the ones who don’t have the means to defend themselves financially and in court. The writing is on the wall now. Why won’t the real ‘protectors of the public’ start doing the right thing?!?!🤬🤬🤬🤯🤯😡
you're right. already had the grand mal seizure scenario. fell right out in the restaurant in the middle of business. thank god someone caught me. the cops and emts forced me to go to hosp. after I was fine and it was over and you know we don't want to go there. bad things can happen there. sometines you get good care help and respect. I did then. a nurse left a test and came in w/ pain med I didn't ask for and said you are due you don't want to be off schedule I know about long acting meds and pain. and they suggested valium for the test I said no but they talked me into it being ok and appropriate for this. they were right and I do take prn valium already they know that. didn't want the Xanax bars again. no way. they are a hell. been assured the valium won't be like that and isn't. I can take or leave them most of the time and told the doc that. the only protectors are help yourself. educate. get the best care and best docs you can. makes a huge dif. corporate greed, and all this shit , if it's fixed is going to take a long time. some info on net about people educating and helping. slow going. money is a huge issue as well. people are too scared to do anything or it may not be their prob now so maybe they will find out too some day, then get off their ass and stand up. most docs aren't that's statistically proven already. only a few.
My sciatic nerve is pinched from falling through a ceiling FFS lol I take a oxycodone 15mg the pain laughs at me and calls me a sucker but if I take more than prescribed I’ll come up short and then the real suffering begins. Wish I never got injured at a time like this doctors run and tuck tail from the DEA while people like myself bend over and say have a go.
I like this dr. He catching him everywhere. Need more dr.s like that
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I start pain management next month and tbh nervous. I suffer from non radiographic axial spondyal arthritis and reactive arthritis and I'm only 28. Just afraid I'm gonna be treated like a drug seeker.
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Don't awfulize!
I don't know his medical condition but I have been on Norco 10/325 for eight years and have got the insurance co, to cover epidural and I have almost no pain .
I have detox myself off the pills now for over three weeks ago and I'll tell you it was not easy but when you put your mind to do this and trust the good Lord to help you well all things are possible.
I am clean and off the pills life is getting better.
You are lucky! An epidural didn't help me. So if I put my mind to it the epidural will help me or I can ween myself off my pain meds and I won't need them anyone more?. I already did that and it was a piece of cake because I am not addicted.Then the pain got worse and worse and It just reminded me of why I started taking them to begin with.
mpadil more importantly, what was your condition bc if you can just stop norco and the lord says you’re good to go, imho you didn’t have chronic pain in the first place. You had acute pain. Big difference.
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If this is not reality, it depicts a Dr visit pretty realistically for someone that is trying to get stronger meds.
I tried to get something stronger or increase after being on Norco for about 10 years, and my pain management Dr. said he wasn’t comfortable with that, but instead added a 12 hr pain medication 2x daily called Belbuca film. He said this along with my current Norcos should help keep the pain relief lasting longer. Belbuca’s retail for my prescribed dosage strength is around $800 monthly! Luckily with insurance it was cut back to $162.00, then added a coupon savings card from the manufacturer to reduce the cost further to about $60. Hopefully Belbuca with the Norcos daily will help to give me around-the-clock pain management?
We’ll see how it goes 🙏
Thank God my pain Dr. believes what I told him, which WAS the truth. I would have been scared to death if he would have taken my Norco away and left me cold turkey, dear Lord!
@Walter B Mainly true, but it in itself is listed as a strong time release opioid used for around the clock pain management. But by itself and at correct dosage with its high infinity to bind tightly with the mu receptors, it will displace full agonists such as hydrocodone, oxycodone, and others preventing their binding, thus making them less effective, and/or reduce the craving for and/or withdrawal of over time.
I found by itself alone it’s not very effective at pain relief when compared to full agonists such as Hydrocodone or Oxycodone. In my opinion some of the pain relief buprenorphine actually provides is more mental than physical, by doing so by providing the reduction of the anxiety/stress & withdrawal associated with the full on agonist pain relief type drugs.
I know what you mean, already living in misery and suffering with no relief can drive one crazy!
I hear a doctor NOT listening!!
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I have had severe back pain for many years and I have taken minimal opioid pain medication when I needed but some people think a higher dosage is what they need in most cases it's not true sometimes you just have to deal with it without medication!!
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I have been to 4 different pain clinics. Two were wonderful and two were not good. I now have a wonderful primary care doctor. What he gives me is Tramadol 50mg four times a day and Lyrical 50mg at bedtime and this is doing a wonderful job. I previously had been on Oxycodone 10mg three times a day and it started to not work and I would take extra doses and I would run out and then be out and I would go through detox and this was terrible. I think this doctor is doing the right thing because of him going to three doctors.
Doctor patronizing this patient is typical. This is outrageous. If the guy needs pain meds, give him as much as he needs to be comfortable and productive.
Detox??, Support group for chronic pain, AYSM
My wife, dying of breast cancer was turned away from the pharmacy for trying to fill her oxycodone script one day early. She would occasionally drop the small pills because of the numbness in her fingers from the chemo treatment. At least once a couple of pills wound up lost to the sink drain.
I'm wondering what on earth is driving this attitude against pain relieving analgesics that are opiod receptor agonists. Could it be that they are so inexpensive to produce and most of the patents are expired, big pharma cant make enough money on them. Or is it so that by not prescribing them and driving chronic pain patients to obtain scheduled medicines without a "valid prescription" puts the patient at risk of criminal sanctions, including asset forfeiture. Or is the government trying to tag people with chronic health problems ( the unproductive members of society ) for eventual elimination.
When you hear politicians and other talking heads on this issue, they always cite unrealistic numbers of 'lives that will be saved" or "numbers of abusers" that seem to me to be very inflated. How many people do you know that are abusers of opiod analgesics? probably not even one. That is unless you count people like the patient in the video, who if you worked beside him when he was pain free because of the proper use of his medicines, would seem completely normal.
Anyone got any ideas why this crackdown on chronic pain patients.
With your wife's condition its ludicrous... (I am very sorry and will pray for her and you as well) one day!!! oh yeah she's a cancer patient but a drug seeking addict.....pharmacist should be punched....I am a chronic pain patient for years and under treated pain will drive you mad...I know the statistics are crap they don't tell you the fool drank a 1/5 took some Valium then 10 hydro's hell the Tylenol will kill you faster...the war is on.....God be with you and your wife
+Dan Seluk I CAN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE....I AM SO SORRY TO HEAR THAT YOUR WIFE...I WILL PRAY FOR A SPEEDY RECOVERY...SHE WILL GET BETTER...BUT LIKE I WAS SAYING THE WHOLE PHARMACY THING I HAD TROUBLE THE OTHER DAY BECAUSE MY SCRIPT WAS EARLY AS WELL...I ALSO DROP MY PAIN PILLS A LOT BECAUSE OF MY RA ARTHRITIS FIBRO AND MY NERVES I GOT PINCHED NERVES, THREE HERNIATED DISCS, ARTHRITIS IN MY BACK, AND SOME OTHER LUMBAR SPINE ISSUES, BUT I TOOK IT TO THREE PHARMACIES NEAR MY HOUSE...AND WALGREENS SAID IT IS THEIR "POLICY" AND THEY CAN'T FILL IT EARLY....THEN I TOOK IT TO WALMART THEY TOLD ME TO COME BACK AND IT WOULD BE READY ON THE 14 AND THAT DIDN'T HAPPENED AND HER EXCUSE WAS THAT THE PERSON WHO TOOK MY SCRIPT.....DIDN'T KNOW THAT THEIR ARE ONLY 29DAYS IN THIS MONTH....THEY ARE TERRIBLE ...THEN I TOOK IT TO SAFEWAY AND THEY SAID THEY WOULDN'T FILL IT UNTIL LIKE FIVE DAYS LATER....SO THEN WE WENT TO THE CITY (MY DOC IS LOCATED IN THE CITY) TOOK IT TO THE WALGREENS AND THEY HAD IT FILLED WITHIN HALF HOUR......SO IT REALLY DEPEND'S ON IF THE PHARMACIST FEEL LIKE FILLING IT!!!!!! MOST OF THEM LOVE TO PLAY DOCTOR AS WELL!!! I HAD TAKEN A SCRIPT TO TARGET IT ONCE...AND THE PHARMASICT REALLY EMBARRASSED ME, MADE ME FEEL LIKE A DRUG ADDICT, ASKING ME ALL THESE QUESTIONS REALLY LOUDLY, ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE HEARD HIM!! I WAS IN TEARS.....SO I TALKED TO A MANAGER...I HOPE HE GOT FIRED...I KNOW HE GOT WRITTEN UP..DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AFTER....ANYWAYS I FEEL FOR YOUR WIFE AND KNOWING WHAT A BATTLE IT IS JUST TO FEEL NORMAL, TO GET PAIN RELIEF!! NOT FEEL LIKE SLEEPING ALL DAY BECAUSE THE PAIN IS SO BAD!!!
Please, please stop typing in all caps. Here is a link to an article showing what people think about you when you do. goo.gl/sUZE95 It's not pretty.
i had that problem the pharmacists also like to play God aswell you need to go in and talk to the owner or head pharmacist tell them ..or go to another and talk to them aswell before going to get it filled esp when you have a legit doc prescription and everthing is on the level...find the right one i sat and told what was happening to me and the head pharm was disgusted...its between you and your doc.. he went to school studied for years and years practised for years ect he knows best thars why we put our lices in there hands to a extent..not to be belittled by assholes like that ...i hate to wish bad will on anyone but just for one to six monthes i wish they could go through what i and most people have gone through sad!!!! they get this POWER TRIP!!!THEREA BEEN STUDIES DONE ON THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOUR ITS WELL DOCUMENTED..LIKE THE JAIL EXPERIMENT...OR PEOPLE WHO HAVE ACTUALLY THOUGHT THEY WERE INFLICTING MASS AMOUNTS OF PAIN TO PEOPLE YET THEY CONTINUE....POWER TRIP!!! RAMBLING AGAIN LOL HOPE YOUR WIFE GETA BETTER HAVE YOU TRIED apricot seeds??hope she gets better and pray God bless
sorry abt my message i usually do voice text or reply and with out looking i post ..i hope you can make it out..and againg hope she gets better .God bless ...sad people must go through this type of harassment in times of trouble..
I know this is an act. There’s no way I could even sit in a pain doc office and talk like this patient. I literally lay on the table and try to communicate with the pain doc with a lot of pain. I can’t hardly communicate
I'm enjoying some pain relief right now.me feet feel broken and every joint is screaming aloud. One 5mg every 4 hours helps some but two,is better? The withdrawal is scary.
How can the average guy talk with a trained doctor, the doctor will will every time. This doctor didn't give the guy a fair shot. I did not see him review the man's x-rays and other films to look once again at the problem. Also I have sat in many offices and heard the same line. Finally I got to a pain specialist with all kinds of credintials that reviews all my information and filled out a pain score finally giving me the correct medicine
Prescription monitoring programs are there to stop people taking more drugs than what is healthy for them. Random urine or blood taking is a requirement to prove to the doctor you are not taking other drugs, but also it can show if you are metabolising the drug quicker than most people. For example, a good doctor would have a blood sample taken before you are due your morning dose (of sustained release opiate), then you take your dose, then 5 hours later they take another blood sample. I have been in one situation where I was absorbing Morphine sustained release so quickly during the day I was experiencing light withdrawal symptoms 2-3 hours before my next dose was due, so I had to stay at a clinic all day whilst they took hourly bloods so the doctor could see the rise and fall of the levels of morphine in my system.
Videos like this do 2 things 1) they give doctors something to show their patients (who in turn feel betrayed and like they are being treated like a child) and 2) mislead the doctor into thinking anyone who see more than one doctor for medication MUST be a junkie.... however lets argue that this Gentleman might well be getting more medication because he metabolises it quicker than the average person, or hes in so much pain that the doctors best intentions just werent working.
What doctors should do is do what one did to me - put him into hospital and give the nurses instructions to allow him to have 10mg or Ordine (liquid morphine) every hour if he wants.... then monitor for 3 days... luckily for me I was in so much pain I saw that nurse every hour for those 3 days and only got about 3 hours of sleep, we worked out quickly just how much pain I was in, and we worked out mutliple ways to tackle it - 1 of that still includes opiates... (I really think the doctor thought I'd be fast asleep after the 6th hour...lol) - so there are ways to handle people in pain, just using time and dignity, and using that ace up their sleeve (admit them to a hospital and bombard them with opiates).
Unfortunately America has a crappy health system, and what helped me immensly would nt have happened over there, and like many people I would have turned to heroin long ago to battle my pain....
It's easy to get hooked on these meds.20 years ago I was hurt very bad in a accident. I had over to operations and the doctors were giving me a lot of pain meds. After a while the meds weren't helping as much plus I had no energy to do anything. I stopped all pain meds and started to get my body in shape again which helped a lot. I still live with pain but I have a life again.
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I must have missed the part where the doctor told the chronic pain patient WHY the current pain meds weren’t safe for him. He mentioned that if the patient takes a higher dose of the same meds he just “might not wake up one day”.
Perhaps the people that produced this video should have approached it using the average chronic pain patient. The average patient takes the meds as prescribed, sticks to the terms of the pain contract and doesn’t doctor shop or call for refills using falsehoods such as claiming their meds were stolen or lost.
Perhaps the camera should capture the life of the average chronic pain patient, taking the meds and being at least functional enough to hold a job or care for their children.
There are chronic pain patients and there are drug abusers. Promoting the viewpoint that chronic pain patients are all drug abusers is just plain wrong, and in many cases harmful.
Stop putting the blame on the people that are using opioids from necessity and not for fun or profit or whatever.
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The doctor says in the video the patient got a script from another doctor
What about the PRN user who just uses the opiate for breakthrough pain and has other therapies
i have chronic pain from haveing to take prograf which is a anti rejection med becase i have had a heart transplant
it is so bad and have not found a docture who cares. i am ready to stop taking my ainti rejsction med all together. what is there left to do
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Is the doctor flat-out lying when he says more opioids could INCREASE the pain?!?
Yes he is flat out lying
@@stewartadkins9931 I mean I'm sorry to be arrogant and question ANY doctor, but I absolutely could not fathom this guy's claim....?!?
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6:00 no doctor it’s not opioid hyperanalgesia! Thanks for being condescending and asking though!
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This man is showing Drug seeking behaviors, going to multiple dr's for meds , saying " My medication was stolen " And only wants more & stronger, This Dr. is doing this guy a giant favor by saying no !!!!!!
The second he told the doc that he occasionally doubles his dose he would be off opioids now a days
I am so thankful that I took my Drs advice and had a Pain Pump implant. It wires directly in your spine so you receive a continuous dose of Morphine. It takes a small fraction of the drug to relieve pain. I went from taking high doses to now only needing a very small amount. It was the best decision I've ever made and can now begin to enjoy life again and be more active since my hell began in 2001.
If you transitioned your intrathecal dose back into an oral dose, it'd be higher. Intrathecal only needs a fraction of the dose because it doesn't need to go through first pass metabolism first, not because delivering it to the spine is some magic route of administration. The implant is rarely indicated. You can't just ask for it.
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The doctor just prego b ed pain meds to pain patient.if you r an addict that's your responsibility.not the bartender or weed seller or Dr.
this is how people go to the streets for meds cause there just cut off
My doctor didn't tell me it would eventually make the pain worse. I never would have started. 4 surgeries later and a spinal cord stimulator I'm no better. Life is horrible.
Lotta but is pretty mild stuff for serious pain. Why isn't the doctor prescribing Kratom? It really works and is not too addictive.
Lortab -10 isn't much better than Tylenol #3 (30mg codeine) and both are loaded (300mg) Tylenol. Not good for the liver.
Dave Seavy wrong it has 500mg tylenol each Norco has 300mg
Scott McCollum Yes and the 7/750 has 750mg Tylenol. However, I was referring to the efficacy. I did a typo on the first post. Thanks for letting me know.
Scott McCollum actually the FDA has recently decreased the amount of acetaminophen in combination opioid products in the United States. This decrease has been to 300 to 325 milligrams of acetaminophen per tablet instead of the usual 500 +.
That's good because a lot of people end up with way too much Tylenol in their system. Not at all good for the liver in high amounts.
+Dave Seavy Very stupid that they add Tylenol at all. "Hey let's add something really harmful and toxic that will get you liver damage to avoid people taking too many!".
There's no reason your doctor cuts you off unless ""You"" do something wrong.
I been on the same thing for years and it's the only reason I can get up and move around. They are a miracle but I take it as subscribe. I have tried
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@Adam Davis Yea I blew it on that one. It isn't the first time and I am sure at my age I will screw up again. God bless and Happy Good Friday! Yes it is prescribed. Oh well. Oops!
My mother in law was booted from her contract and she tried finding a new dr and was told that with the termination on her record neither he nor will any other dr prescribe her the pain meds she needs.....so apparently once your terminated you will never be back on those meds again, even if it proves that nothing but the pain meds will help....in York PA, that is
Im not sure if its like that anywhere else
+Jason Gray Hey, I don't understand what you mean by booted from her contract and termination on her record. Could you explain?
+Hugh Janus apparently when your terminated from your contract ....you get sort of blacklisted by other Doctors....thus making it impossible for someone in pain to ever receive anything other physical therapy..... if pain meds are needed then your just out of luck
Jason Gray Ok, but what contract?
+Hugh Janus in order the be prescribed pain meds the doctor makes you sign a contract....if terms are violated then the contract with THAT doctor is terminated
THAT doctor will no longer see you if pain meds are required
although its supposed to work on a doctor by doctor basis....one violation usually permanent ban by ALL doctors
Jason Gray I'm in the usa. I never heard of this.
I've got a pinched cervical spine nerve and I'm told to take over the counter pain meds
unfortunately this happens all too often. And for the people that really are in chronic pain that cannot be relieved with exercise or PT are all lumped into the category of drug seekers. Some of these people are selling their meds, too. I see ppl daily that are on so many drugs they can barely walk from being drugged, and they are complaining about the pain being so bad. Catch 22. I was once on at least 4 different drugs, and when I got off all of them, my pain was not really any worse. So for ME, I think the drugs were making things worse.
Under 60 years of age, always ask for Ritalin when asking for pain medication. Ritalin is the solution for all addiction except porn addiction