Ability to produce 16 buses a day-16 takt in Mercedes.. I have recently visited the MAN factory in Ankara, responsible of producing majority of the MAN buses/coaches worldwide so much so that the guide funnily enough referred to MAN as Maschinenfabrik Ankara-Nürnberg. Comparing the production capacity, the MAN facility in Ankara also had the capacity to produce 16-17 buses a day of varying category with average delivery time of around 21 days.. The guide was telling us about how they were attempting to push it towards the 18-20 takt margin with multiple shifts. (He said that they had to lower production rates due to the 2020 epidemic) Overall I must say the layout was pretty similar to Mercedes!
Handled just like a world class champ, without any ounce of gushing-over with star-struck gibberish. You handed the pertinent, hard and important questions directly to the horse’s mouth. Thank you so much for “cutting to the chase” and keeping it real for us. A great take away for me personally over here in Minnesota is the fact a major modern motorcoach manufacture has opted to offer the tested, true and tried Detroit Diesel engine and Allison transmission combo. From the powertrain offerings alone, Mercedes has set up to compete dead-head on with the best North America already has got to offer.
Wow, just wow! Look where MCW has taken you, not just to the other side of the world but covering some pretty exclusive Motorcoach material. Well done!!
Haha thank you Rheilfford. I can't believe that the channel has grown to this point. I never did this for the views of fame or fortune. Just wanted a place where I can release all my pent up bus nerdyness lol. I honestly never expected this channel to gain any viewers.
Love from Jakarta, Indonesia !!! This is really cool !!! I like trucks and buses too, besides airplanes. Mercedes-Benz also has a plant in Bogor, Indonesia which produces cars, trucks and buses. In Indonesia, the manufacturer produces the rolling chassis, while third parties do the body, interior work and so on.
Mercedes, BMW and other companies from europe make every day cars, their basically the original ford and chevy of Europe. They entered the U.S market as a luxury maker for their higher end cars later on.
Hey. I'm not even sure if I qualify as an enthusiast or aficionado of the motorcoach world and won't even challenge anyone with my limited knowledge of the industry. But my love for these vehicles started with my dad when he was one of the few African American drivers at Greyhound in the middle to late 1960's and drove a manual transmission "double decker" ScenicCruiser. Obviously it took a little convincing for me to understand that there was no double decker for that particular model and the fact that the passengers on the lower level probably required some windows and other infrastructure to make the miles go by but he was very patient and understanding with his 3 year old student and son and presented his wealth of information as if he wanted me to understand what he was talking about without getting too deep in the weeds of technical information or so fast that I couldn't keep up and lose interest all together. That's a difficult task and there are more people in the role of teacher, instructor and writer without that very important ability and quality. Thanks for another great article and I hope my lengthy comment gives you some idea of how much I appreciate your expertise along with your ability pass it along.
Thanks for the kind words. Very interesting story about your dad. You must be very proud of him. Do you have a picture of him that you can share with me? jwang@peoriacharter.com I would love to give him a shout out in one of my videos! Part 2 is coming soon.
Once again James I really enjoyed the Mercedes production plant in turkey love the different steps in assembling a bus from start to finish product can’t wait to see part 2 of North American version of Mercedes coach’s keep them coming James
It's awesome that Detroit Diesel is being used for the Mercedes buses. Sucks that they weren't used by other bus manufacturers here in North America after 2020. I don't understand why the Detroit Diesel DD15 or DD 16 wasn't at least used for 2021 2022 or 2023 J4500's
Great video my friend James... Turkish airlines is a enjoyable flight... your videos are great and I always appreciate and enjoy you content my friend 😊
Fabulous James! Being as the Mercedes folks didn't wait all day to give you a Mercedes swag bag, I'm kinda expecting a Mercedes ball cap to be an essential item in the bag and upon your head in video #2.
@@MotorcoachWorld M-m-m-man! How can a big name like Mercedes not put a hat in there? So useful. 0rolly worn everywhere. It'd be like a CBS Sports ball cap during any of the big sporting events like the NCAA Big Dance (64 team tournament), Final Four, The Masters, or The Superbowl once every 4 years. All the cameramen wear 'em. Exclusive cap.
Felicidades por ese viaje a la Fabrica de Mercedes Benz en Turquia , ademas la marca no es sinonimo de lujo es comodidad y seguridad, ojala que en los Estados Unidos sea un exito con ese modelo ya que MCI o Prevost mejore sus diseños en su modelos con esto se abren mas oportunidades ya dejaria ser un pais con las marcas de origen local . Saludos de Chile 🇨🇱
Lol the breaks though at 1:04 😂 ur right if ur gonna test the bus then test it. It’s not called a drive slow and steady track it’s meant for actually driving conditions and what the bus might encounter on the open roads
4:24 -- I thought Detroit Diesel got out of the coach market? Also nice reliable Allison especially the fuel sense ones LMFAO.. we already had one take a shit under warranty
Not through the whole video yet, but I found it interesting that on your ride to the facility, you asked straight up what’s the price? And none of them answered! What, they running for office? 😅
Great video James. Do you do your own camera work or do you have a camera man? Beautiful clean factory running 3 shifts. WOW. I missed it but how many people do they employ? I loved the spot were you talked about Setra parts being expensive and you asked if MB parts were going to be expensive the gentleman was at a lose for words. Looking forward to Part 2
Those seat ornaments (9:08) are going to last a day before somebody tries to steal them, ripping the seat in the process. It's like why USPS got their Metris vans with an eagle instead of the star on the grille.
What a bus. Would be a honor to drive. Maybe the company I work for will buy a few and I can drive one 😊. Think Peoria will purchase one when available? Stay safe.
Unlike motorcoaches, which are usually privately owned, the majority of city buses are funded by taxpayers and that money always has buy-American provisions attached. That means building a whole US assembly line, making sure you can use their existing NA engines (Detroit Diesel), transmissions, etc. It's going to require a big order for that to happen.
Im also going to say this...Daimler, oh Daimler, we miss you here at Chrysler. You guys together built the Challengers and Chargers, and Demons...and now Stellantis is Fiat-ifying us....lol. Also, imagine if they were still merged, that limo would have been some kind of SRT Charger limo with a bagillion HP
Hi Steve. Good question. So the plant in Istanbul has been around for 30 years and they mainly produce buses for Europe. Recently they built an addition to their factory to build the Tourrider, The bus dedicated for the US market. Turkey has a abundance of work force as well as known for quality workforce. Most of the world have been buying heavy trucks and buses Built from this plant in Turkey for decades and their reputation has held up.
@@MotorcoachWorld Am 100% certain of the quality. I was thinking in terms of shipping costs. Even before the pandemic, it must have been crazy expensive to put one of those buses on a roll on roll off ship and send it to the US.
I don’t see MCI or Prevost worrying much about MB taking much of their market. Parts expense is a huge chunk of the costs of keeping a motorcoach running. MB parts will be a dealbreaker for many smaller charter businesses.
@@TellurideS13 That’s not true at all. Parts have been held up on long established brands like MCI and Prevost with huge distribution in the USA post Wuhan Croup lockdown. Mercedes has a long established reputation for exorbitant prices on their parts. Many times body panels and glass, ect can be purchased used for MCI and Prevost buses at a great savings over new parts. Small charter businesses won’t be able to do that with Mercedes buses here in the states. You’re going to either pay Mercedes price for parts or do without. Side glass, bay doors, mirrors, are common parts that drivers tear up and fortunately can be found used for half what a new component would cost. These Tier IV emissions units break down enough without additional expenses for only being able to buy new parts from Mercedes. I’ve got enough experience with Mercedes’ cars to know how much they love to charge for their parts. No thanks on a motorcoach.
@@prevost8686 Mercedes-Benz doesn't build the Tourrider. Daimler Truck builds the Mercedes-Benz branded trucks and buses. Daimler and Mercedes-Benz are separate companies now. Many parts on the Tourrider you can get from a Freightliner dealer. The engine is a Detroit DD13. Getting parts for the engine and the emissions components won't be too expensive since the engine and it's emissions components are already used in Daimler Truck NA branded products.
Ability to produce 16 buses a day-16 takt in Mercedes.. I have recently visited the MAN factory in Ankara, responsible of producing majority of the MAN buses/coaches worldwide so much so that the guide funnily enough referred to MAN as Maschinenfabrik Ankara-Nürnberg. Comparing the production capacity, the MAN facility in Ankara also had the capacity to produce 16-17 buses a day of varying category with average delivery time of around 21 days.. The guide was telling us about how they were attempting to push it towards the 18-20 takt margin with multiple shifts. (He said that they had to lower production rates due to the 2020 epidemic) Overall I must say the layout was pretty similar to Mercedes!
Solid video 🤙🏽 keep up the great work James
Handled just like a world class champ, without any ounce of gushing-over with star-struck gibberish. You handed the pertinent, hard and important questions directly to the horse’s mouth. Thank you so much for “cutting to the chase” and keeping it real for us. A great take away for me personally over here in Minnesota is the fact a major modern motorcoach manufacture has opted to offer the tested, true and tried Detroit Diesel engine and Allison transmission combo. From the powertrain offerings alone, Mercedes has set up to compete dead-head on with the best North America already has got to offer.
Wow, just wow! Look where MCW has taken you, not just to the other side of the world but covering some pretty exclusive Motorcoach material. Well done!!
Haha thank you Rheilfford. I can't believe that the channel has grown to this point. I never did this for the views of fame or fortune. Just wanted a place where I can release all my pent up bus nerdyness lol. I honestly never expected this channel to gain any viewers.
good job asking questions that we as operators need to ask..
European buses have so many beautiful color options!
Impressive. Thanks man!
I’m from Canada and I absolutely love Istanbul!
It was a awesome place. I really want to go back and visit again!
It is so cool that they invited you to Istanbul and to take a tour of their factory! I'm excited for part 2!
Thank you JD. Part 2 is coming soon. I am in the middle of editing it 😂.
Who would have thought your Motorcoach World journey would take you all the way to Istanbul. So cool!
Great work!
That is a very clean factory.
A little jealous of that food.
Dude, this is so cool. So awesome that you've been able to do this!
Great to see you being rewarded for all your hard work in creating MCW. Congratulations!
Thank you very much!
Love from Jakarta, Indonesia !!! This is really cool !!! I like trucks and buses too, besides airplanes. Mercedes-Benz also has a plant in Bogor, Indonesia which produces cars, trucks and buses. In Indonesia, the manufacturer produces the rolling chassis, while third parties do the body, interior work and so on.
The rain city...
Very impressive James. I'm looing forward to part two the actual Tourrider plant.
Thank you warren. Stay tuned. I'm in the process of editing it now.
Welcome to Turkey, I wish I knew you were coming, I would like to meet you :)
So cool! Can't wait to see part two!
Happy to see a video from you! Looks like you had an awesome experience! Thanks for posting!! Looking forward to part 2!!
Okay now I can't wait for day 2!!!!!!!!! 😁
Amazing video James!!
Awesome video. Thank You!
Thanks Jin!
You enjoy your vacation
Never thought Mercedes only makes luxurious cars but trucks and buses for daily use ✨🔥🔥 super interesting
Their trucks and vans and daily use are their bread and butter for most of the world.
Mercedes, BMW and other companies from europe make every day cars, their basically the original ford and chevy of Europe. They entered the U.S market as a luxury maker for their higher end cars later on.
Hey. I'm not even sure if I qualify as an enthusiast or aficionado of the motorcoach world and won't even challenge anyone with my limited knowledge of the industry. But my love for these vehicles started with my dad when he was one of the few African American drivers at Greyhound in the middle to late 1960's and drove a manual transmission "double decker" ScenicCruiser.
Obviously it took a little convincing for me to understand that there was no double decker for that particular model and the fact that the passengers on the lower level probably required some windows and other infrastructure to make the miles go by but he was very patient and understanding with his 3 year old student and son and presented his wealth of information as if he wanted me to understand what he was talking about without getting too deep in the weeds of technical information or so fast that I couldn't keep up and lose interest all together.
That's a difficult task and there are more people in the role of teacher, instructor and writer without that very important ability and quality.
Thanks for another great article and I hope my lengthy comment gives you some idea of how much I appreciate your expertise along with your ability pass it along.
Thanks for the kind words. Very interesting story about your dad. You must be very proud of him. Do you have a picture of him that you can share with me? jwang@peoriacharter.com
I would love to give him a shout out in one of my videos!
Part 2 is coming soon.
Nice work 🙌🏼 Zane is bright 💡
Hey is a smart and cool dude
Once again James I really enjoyed the Mercedes production plant in turkey love the different steps in assembling a bus from start to finish product can’t wait to see part 2 of North American version of Mercedes coach’s keep them coming James
Yeah they are made by us 🇹🇷
Fantastic video,James.
Awesome video as usual I can’t wait to see part 2
It's awesome that Detroit Diesel is being used for the Mercedes buses. Sucks that they weren't used by other bus manufacturers here in North America after 2020. I don't understand why the Detroit Diesel DD15 or DD 16 wasn't at least used for 2021 2022 or 2023 J4500's
Great video my friend James... Turkish airlines is a enjoyable flight... your videos are great and I always appreciate and enjoy you content my friend 😊
Great video James, thanks for sharing
Thank you Bill!
Fabulous James! Being as the Mercedes folks didn't wait all day to give you a Mercedes swag bag, I'm kinda expecting a Mercedes ball cap to be an essential item in the bag and upon your head in video #2.
LoL I miss your Tyler logic. I wish I got a hat in that bag. But there was not a hat. But a bunch of other goodies though.
@@MotorcoachWorld M-m-m-man! How can a big name like Mercedes not put a hat in there? So useful. 0rolly worn everywhere.
It'd be like a CBS Sports ball cap during any of the big sporting events like the NCAA Big Dance (64 team tournament), Final Four, The Masters, or The Superbowl once every 4 years. All the cameramen wear 'em. Exclusive cap.
Omg would love to tour an ic ce bus factory or another school bus manufacturer. Coach bus would be sooooo cool also
Felicidades por ese viaje a la Fabrica de Mercedes Benz en Turquia , ademas la marca no es sinonimo de lujo es comodidad y seguridad, ojala que en los Estados Unidos sea un exito con ese modelo ya que MCI o Prevost mejore sus diseños en su modelos con esto se abren mas oportunidades ya dejaria ser un pais con las marcas de origen local .
Saludos de Chile 🇨🇱
Excellent job
Thanks Adam! Much appreciated sir.
1:04 Don't break the million dollar bus, James. lol This was fun.
I tried very hard actually to see if I could break it LOL. What good is a test track when you can't test something to the fullest haha
Lol the breaks though at 1:04 😂 ur right if ur gonna test the bus then test it. It’s not called a drive slow and steady track it’s meant for actually driving conditions and what the bus might encounter on the open roads
The hard work and quality videos you put together was seen and valued. Great job!!! They did not want to say how much a bus cost 🤣
Thanks Jerome. I am still trying to get them to say the price. LOL
4:24 -- I thought Detroit Diesel got out of the coach market?
Also nice reliable Allison especially the fuel sense ones LMFAO.. we already had one take a shit under warranty
Not through the whole video yet, but I found it interesting that on your ride to the facility, you asked straight up what’s the price? And none of them answered! What, they running for office? 😅
Lol 😂
WS that a Manuel Lomo you were in?
One of the american coaches was just inside the finish building. Europe doesn't get split windows.
Yes very true. Good eyes
Epic!
Great video James. Do you do your own camera work or do you have a camera man? Beautiful clean factory running 3 shifts. WOW. I missed it but how many people do they employ? I loved the spot were you talked about Setra parts being expensive and you asked if MB parts were going to be expensive the gentleman was at a lose for words. Looking forward to Part 2
Thank you Robert. I am a one man show. From being my own camera man to finding the right music to doing my own edits to writing my own script.
Those seat ornaments (9:08) are going to last a day before somebody tries to steal them, ripping the seat in the process. It's like why USPS got their Metris vans with an eagle instead of the star on the grille.
LoL. I should have tugged on them while I was on the test track to see if I could pull one off
awesome vid..would love to have one to do a bus conversiom to lux rv....
What a bus. Would be a honor to drive. Maybe the company I work for will buy a few and I can drive one 😊. Think Peoria will purchase one when available? Stay safe.
Yankee Line has tons coming in the next few years. A huge batch is already on its way.
I'm surprised Daimler hasn't tried bringing the citaro to the US.
Unlike motorcoaches, which are usually privately owned, the majority of city buses are funded by taxpayers and that money always has buy-American provisions attached. That means building a whole US assembly line, making sure you can use their existing NA engines (Detroit Diesel), transmissions, etc. It's going to require a big order for that to happen.
@@straightpipediesel Detroit Diesel medium duty engines are dead by the end of this decade.
So thats where youve been!
You're in the turkey rather than eating it 🤣
LoL 🤣 I thought the same thing while I was there
Im also going to say this...Daimler, oh Daimler, we miss you here at Chrysler.
You guys together built the Challengers and Chargers, and Demons...and now Stellantis is Fiat-ifying us....lol.
Also, imagine if they were still merged, that limo would have been some kind of SRT Charger limo with a bagillion HP
Just a random question, if the entire plant was built for North America, why did they chose Turkey?
Hi Steve. Good question. So the plant in Istanbul has been around for 30 years and they mainly produce buses for Europe. Recently they built an addition to their factory to build the Tourrider, The bus dedicated for the US market. Turkey has a abundance of work force as well as known for quality workforce. Most of the world have been buying heavy trucks and buses Built from this plant in Turkey for decades and their reputation has held up.
@@MotorcoachWorld Am 100% certain of the quality. I was thinking in terms of shipping costs. Even before the pandemic, it must have been crazy expensive to put one of those buses on a roll on roll off ship and send it to the US.
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I don’t see MCI or Prevost worrying much about MB taking much of their market. Parts expense is a huge chunk of the costs of keeping a motorcoach running. MB parts will be a dealbreaker for many smaller charter businesses.
Tourrider will use the same service as Freightliner. No parts will be hard to get.
@@TellurideS13 That’s not true at all. Parts have been held up on long established brands like MCI and Prevost with huge distribution in the USA post Wuhan Croup lockdown. Mercedes has a long established reputation for exorbitant prices on their parts. Many times body panels and glass, ect can be purchased used for MCI and Prevost buses at a great savings over new parts. Small charter businesses won’t be able to do that with Mercedes buses here in the states. You’re going to either pay Mercedes price for parts or do without.
Side glass, bay doors, mirrors, are common parts that drivers tear up and fortunately can be found used for half what a new component would cost. These Tier IV emissions units break down enough without additional expenses for only being able to buy new parts from Mercedes. I’ve got enough experience with Mercedes’ cars to know how much they love to charge for their parts. No thanks on a motorcoach.
@@prevost8686 Mercedes-Benz doesn't build the Tourrider. Daimler Truck builds the Mercedes-Benz branded trucks and buses. Daimler and Mercedes-Benz are separate companies now. Many parts on the Tourrider you can get from a Freightliner dealer. The engine is a Detroit DD13. Getting parts for the engine and the emissions components won't be too expensive since the engine and it's emissions components are already used in Daimler Truck NA branded products.