Jon has been one of the best kept secrets in LA for 10+ years now. His beats are full of passion and phenomenal. And if you’ve ever been blessed enough to hear him rap he is imo one of the most prolific writers on the planet. It’s obvious why he isn’t a larger act, but damn Jon is one of the illest breathing. This was an awesome video btw! Just wanted to give Jon his flowers haha
I don't think you know what the word prolific means. Prolific means (and only means, no room for interpretation or opinion here) something with a large amount of works. It means you have _a lot_. It does not signify quality in any way. I learned this about 10 years ago and it is 100% the right way to use it. Anything else, just find another word for it.
Crazy thing is he does have a lot of music out weird how that works. It’s not like avenged sevenfold level but bro has made a couple albums he has a wide range of music to choose from. That makes him prolific.
Great vid homie.. i remember us watching Boon Docs videos together and it blew our minds.. i also just recently started seeing Jons beat videos and im hooked 👊💯
That's a great analysis! Expertise, personality, and the essence of creation all are fair points. JMB influenced me when I started my own TH-cam channel. But I never had a chance to make this kind of analysis. I think you got it very right!
Love this video. All of it is true. I love his vids as well. I just found out about Jon about a month ago. Such a chill vibe that has inspired me to switch from my MPC X to an Elektron Analog Rytm, as I heard the Okto is rather complex. My time is more limited now days :/
Jon is also a professional music producer and rap, and has been long before he made his TH-cam channel. But I agree with all your points as to why his videos and beats are 🔥🔥
Yes most definitely a good point. I feel like I could have included more of his history. His channel was not just some random attempt to make content, that's for sure :)
I was watching Boon Doc and Damu the Fudgemonk religiously for a year straight after discovering Dilla and Dj Shadow the year before (probably 2006/2007). Worked my ass off winter break first semester of college, doing double shifts for the entire month at a ski resort near my mom’s house. Bought an mpc2000 cash for $500 at the end of that winter break from a guy I worked with ironically enough. Those first 6 to 9 months, I made some of the ugliest, nastiest beats… I really don’t even want to remember those ones but after about a year it’s like something clicked and I’ve never stopped since. Now there’s a ton more hardware, vintage, synthesizers, and petals but Back then I was literally just saving every dollar I could and on the weekends hitting up Hymies Records in Minneapolis. Honestly, making beats also made me a better DJ and vice versa. Basically have taken a break for the last 9 months but soon as my business slowed down for the winter the tascam was back on my kitchen table and the amps were dusted off. I’ll never be a career musician (I just don’t got the chops and mind for it) but as a therapist said to me a long time ago when I was going through some heavy shit: “you should never stop making music, it’ll always be there, ready and waiting for you to pick back up when you want to.”
Appreciate you sharing your thoughts and opinions on Jon and Boon Doc, and it's the moments like these, that give off the inspiration and motivation to create. Love the video fam, and the beat was flames. I just subscribed!🙏🏾✊🏾💚
Lil Jon Lance Wayne is definitely a fire beat maker. Ever since i moved from drumming, to electronic drumming, now to flipping samples and making beats I've enjoyed his videos. my main samplers is the mpc 1000, sp 404 mk2, and the polyend tracker. I have an mpc one but honestly haven't used the sampler engine to chop yet (idk what im sleeping on, i keep buying plugins and instruments for it) kind of wish i got the live 2 so i could play in my bed. Tho watching him on the octatrack makes me want to play with one soooo bad. I have a Model cycles and thought about model samples but honestly should just get a digitakt or octatrak Also i appreciate the Boon Doc video (mpc 1000 sighting), and rad you got one also! I recently did the fat pad upgrade because my top row of pads i had to smack with a full fist to get it to work.
Thanks for the comment! I've kept it oldschool mostly, I liked both the MPC and OT for their small screen to big buttons ratio. I should do those upgraded pads on day.
Dope video… I also watch JMB … I gain lots of information from him. I don’t make the same type of music he does… but his approach to beat making is very interesting. 😎👍🏽
I remember watching Damu The Fudgemunk bangin out MPC 2000xl beat vids back in 2007. Probably the first live beats I came across in the early days of TH-cam.🤔 JonWayne is the MAN. His beats are incredible and his personality is hilariously genuine. Love the Jon makes beats series.🔊🤌🏼🔥
I don't make hip hop (dark techno guy here) or use an octatrack (I do have a digitakt & syntakt though, go elektron) but I follow Jon firstly because I respect him as an artist (his albums are great), secondly because his creative philosophising is both interesting and thoughtful, and thirdly because he's basically entertaining to watch.
Good video for the time. Aged badly. If you did this video now, it would be all about how he makes literally the same exact video every single time with a different thumbnail text/title.
Well said, I think it happens to a lot of people. After I made this video he just kind of fell off my homepage. The SP404 was kind of the channels creative peak but then who am I to talk I made one real video since this one. Appreciate you watching.
@@Labergemusic No no, your video is really good and I'm actually surprised you agree with what I said. You did really good and you were early. What people want from a youtube channel is for it to evolve, he went the exact opposite way to keep his patreons. Also agreed, we watch the sp404 video every 2 months here in the studio. Don't even know why it's that one in particular.
@@notreally-sf3df What do you think I could do differently to solve this issue? The channel has always been the same (make a beat, have fun). The only difference is those were video where I was sampling and now I'm going through a synth phase. Would love to have the both of you back to the channel!
@@jonmakesbeats Hey, didn't expect you to see this, or see it so quickly. You deserve a legit answer! We talk about you all the time here in the studio, because we're entering a new phase of content and you're a very good example of how it should be done in 2024. Actually had a 2 hour yap session with chatgpt about what you were doing and why it WORKS to make the same video over and over. We actually think it's a really good idea and something we've never really seen before in such a specific way. I noticed it after you came back 3 months ago after being more sporadic. Someone cracked a joke about it and then every thumbnail on our frontpage confirmed it to the point of us all going "wow he really is making the same video with a different thumbnail text and title, yet he keeps most viewers". It is probably partly because you modified your studio setup. You have that setup, so you do things that way. Here in our studio, we actually have a LOT of hardware that is just sitting to the left of me (OP-1 field, chompi, polyend tracker, zoia etc, all the more modern crazy stuff), even though it's set up on at table/wall with $500 of cables and a solution to do both individual tracks to the computer and completely dawless with a sd card. To use that setup, I'm going to have to use the daw less and I'm just so excited about new-ish software and the workflow I have to dump that and go stand up at the table, so it's something that is disabling me at the moment as opposed to enabling me with all its possibilities. My current situation of working on multiple genres and styles is definitely not helping. So, let's define why i'm saying "the same video over and over". 10ish months ago, you had a good version of youtuber brain when something was different per video (soundfonts, sampling a plugin, 5 things) and was easily communicated in a thumbnail and title. This was effectively the same video, you with your visual setup, your gear and doing something with a slight twist. Before that, you had a unique take on dawless, but it didn't need specific pre-communicated twists since you were so unique in what you did and you had your initial boom. Stopping at the "worse laptop" video, you took a bit of a break, did the studio modifications and now you are effectively making the exact same video every time again, but the shine of "dawless octatrack guy" is gone. You can do the odd yap-video (yours was good!) and then 5 more of the same video etc, but it's more obvious that it's "another Jon" video now than it has ever been before, which makes it less special. This is definitely something every lifer goes through in the "mid-phase" of a newer endeavour, so it's nothing new; but you were the first person that made me realize that it IS the same video every single time, because you were always associated with some sort of shine anchoring your very obvious skills and dedication. So, in the last month, we've figured out how we could basically start the way you're doing it right now, then pivot to the shine. What we found in our research was that anything you do with a challenge involved is really good. It's not about using a sp-404 or a mpc one, having new gear all the time; it's about the session we're shadowing you on being its own thing. There'll always be a subsect of people who see the individual beat as one (and it does work for me at times too), but including some modifier that sets up each session is what we've found to be key. It could be simple and you should still be in a relaxed/fun/chill mindset. Here are some things we've figured out for our new endeavour. The style of music we want to highlight is quite ambient and nice to listen to, but can still be very technical and production-heavy. I wanted to do a video of how to incorporate generative techniques, which is a very heavy topic; but through some brainstorming and exclusion we figured out that a video on making music that basically becomes your own personal "lofi girl" channel just for your own enjoyment would be the way to tackle such a heavy handed topic. If that goes well, we could do variation videos of that in the form of more meditative sounding long pieces or simply resampling these into songs; it could spawn 10 more videos easily because of the inherent appeal of the randomness that generative music can enable despite seeming completely out of reach for the common person. Another thing about the particular style is the combination of organic and synthethic elements. Making synthethic sounds sound like organic foley is one way to do it and using granular synths with organic recordings is another way to do it. That's 2 videos right there, but we could also repeat that multiple more ways by sometimes mentioning granular synthesis specifically in the title and sometimes using a free granular plugin and tout "this feels like cheating, for free!"; easily creating 10 variations of a simple concept like that by also sometimes focusing on the alluring repetitiveness of one 8-bar loop, sometimes focusing on a a/b switch and sometimes focus on a complete full length piece. Other variations would be to resample your voice once in the context of a normal beat, see if people catch on to it, then do a full-length beat video anchored by voice, then a more "educational" approach to it (which could go pretty personal and fuckaround-y) and then finally do a video on the tool/technique people seem to resonate with the most. That enables 4+ videos all based on the running feedback you're getting from your community on each video. In our opinion, the latter concept is what's kind of missing on your channel in the last few months, but we do really like how you've not fallen off and manage to keep going. That's what inspired us to tackle this topic and figure it out for ourselves. Let me know if anything resonated, thanks for the content!
Bro…did you just say the Oktatrak is the greatest sampler ever created?? Lord please forgive him for he not knoweth what he sayeth…May the Akai Gods have mercy on your soul😢
@@Labergemusic I was just playing up to the cult like Akai mentality just kidding around although I don’t know if any sampler can mess with the new MPC’s I’ve owned the 1000 in the past, but the MPC live 2 is my favorite sampler.
@@drenolynbeats Haha I know! But you have a point tho, you can definitely can say the MPC is better. I haven't tried any MPC past the 2500 really. Should check out the Live series sometime.
Oh man thanks so much for this. Just came across my timeline for some reason. Also shout out Boon Doc! I always used to watch his videos coming up
Thanks!!! Means a lot you watched it. Boon Doc was a legend and you'lre a legend for using an Octatrack. man I love hardware.
Don’t forget Damu!
only the ogs remeber boon doc, mpc tutor forum future producers, time flies
Jon Wayne makes very good beats, but he is actually a good rapper too.
Yes! I skipped over most of his history (I had it all written out) just to keep it more focused on beats :)
He raps?
Jon has mad bars, never knew he made the beats either till i stumbled across his youtube channel where he makes them
Jon has been one of the best kept secrets in LA for 10+ years now. His beats are full of passion and phenomenal. And if you’ve ever been blessed enough to hear him rap he is imo one of the most prolific writers on the planet. It’s obvious why he isn’t a larger act, but damn Jon is one of the illest breathing.
This was an awesome video btw! Just wanted to give Jon his flowers haha
Thanks! Appreciate the comment :) I'll post some new videos soon
I don't think you know what the word prolific means.
Prolific means (and only means, no room for interpretation or opinion here) something with a large amount of works. It means you have _a lot_. It does not signify quality in any way.
I learned this about 10 years ago and it is 100% the right way to use it. Anything else, just find another word for it.
Crazy thing is he does have a lot of music out weird how that works. It’s not like avenged sevenfold level but bro has made a couple albums he has a wide range of music to choose from. That makes him prolific.
its not obvious why he isnt larger (of an act, not stature) can you explain?
That boon doc vid changed my life
Yuuuup, Boonie Mayfield the whole reason I bought an MPC1000 after the JJOS came out as my hardware of choice. He's still putting out great stuff!!
That beat at the end is sick bro, good video, subbed
ayy we got the same chair! lesgo
So comfy to sit on!
Omg I watched every boondoc video back in the day.. now jonmakesbeats 😂😂😂
Boon was the original!
haha me too Boonie Mayfield, still the best i ever saw on youtube
Great vid homie.. i remember us watching Boon Docs videos together and it blew our minds.. i also just recently started seeing Jons beat videos and im hooked 👊💯
Nice video my guy! Thanks for this.
Nice video man!
Boonie, Damn, and invisible hands were dope back then
I watched so many Boon Doc videos growing up - definitely a goat and pioneer of what alot of us are doing on the internet.
Jon Wayne videos are so dope too
Man I forgot about Boonie. Beast
So glad this brought him back to some :D
That's a great analysis! Expertise, personality, and the essence of creation all are fair points.
JMB influenced me when I started my own TH-cam channel. But I never had a chance to make this kind of analysis. I think you got it very right!
Really appreciate it, have a great week!
Hey that's great to hear! I'm late to the party on this vid but reading this made me happy.
John is the shit. I almost bought an octatrack. His beats are the best on TH-cam.
I love the OT but it's also very hard to use when you learn it
dope video mane, n chill beat at end
I appreciate you. Have a nice day.
an early one for me was watching "jel - all day breakfast" live cut def got me hooked on the mpc
Never seen that one, thanks for sharing!
Love this video. All of it is true. I love his vids as well. I just found out about Jon about a month ago. Such a chill vibe that has inspired me to switch from my MPC X to an Elektron Analog Rytm, as I heard the Okto is rather complex. My time is more limited now days :/
That was cool. I was expecting something completely different, and ended up being pleasantly surprised.
I'm glad you enjoyed it! I tried to make it original :)
Jon is also a professional music producer and rap, and has been long before he made his TH-cam channel.
But I agree with all your points as to why his videos and beats are 🔥🔥
I’ve never met Jon, but I hope to someday. He definitely gives off good people vibes. He’s genuine.
Yes most definitely a good point. I feel like I could have included more of his history. His channel was not just some random attempt to make content, that's for sure :)
Dude your beat at the end is fire.
@@n8-oh-8 thanks 😁
those boon doc videos made me start making beats back then.
Jon is awesome.
btw. great beat at the end 👍
@Unifono2012 thanks for the reply and compliment. Have a great day 😁
I was watching Boon Doc and Damu the Fudgemonk religiously for a year straight after discovering Dilla and Dj Shadow the year before (probably 2006/2007). Worked my ass off winter break first semester of college, doing double shifts for the entire month at a ski resort near my mom’s house. Bought an mpc2000 cash for $500 at the end of that winter break from a guy I worked with ironically enough. Those first 6 to 9 months, I made some of the ugliest, nastiest beats… I really don’t even want to remember those ones but after about a year it’s like something clicked and I’ve never stopped since. Now there’s a ton more hardware, vintage, synthesizers, and petals but Back then I was literally just saving every dollar I could and on the weekends hitting up Hymies Records in Minneapolis. Honestly, making beats also made me a better DJ and vice versa. Basically have taken a break for the last 9 months but soon as my business slowed down for the winter the tascam was back on my kitchen table and the amps were dusted off. I’ll never be a career musician (I just don’t got the chops and mind for it) but as a therapist said to me a long time ago when I was going through some heavy shit: “you should never stop making music, it’ll always be there, ready and waiting for you to pick back up when you want to.”
Its about the cook and the secret sauce not the kitchen or the utensils.
Stop buying shit and make some music.
Appreciate you sharing your thoughts and opinions on Jon and Boon Doc, and it's the moments like these, that give off the inspiration and motivation to create. Love the video fam, and the beat was flames. I just subscribed!🙏🏾✊🏾💚
I'm glad my video was a source of motivation. Your support is appreciated.
Brother we must not encourage this behavior for he is a blasphemer against Akai we must encourage him to walketh in the light!😂
Great video 🤙🏼
Also I just uploaded a short of one of my beats haha
Dope! Boonie is the 🐐
That Boonie Mayfield beat is still FIYAH...
Lil Jon Lance Wayne is definitely a fire beat maker. Ever since i moved from drumming, to electronic drumming, now to flipping samples and making beats I've enjoyed his videos. my main samplers is the mpc 1000, sp 404 mk2, and the polyend tracker. I have an mpc one but honestly haven't used the sampler engine to chop yet (idk what im sleeping on, i keep buying plugins and instruments for it) kind of wish i got the live 2 so i could play in my bed.
Tho watching him on the octatrack makes me want to play with one soooo bad. I have a Model cycles and thought about model samples but honestly should just get a digitakt or octatrak
Also i appreciate the Boon Doc video (mpc 1000 sighting), and rad you got one also! I recently did the fat pad upgrade because my top row of pads i had to smack with a full fist to get it to work.
Thanks for the comment! I've kept it oldschool mostly, I liked both the MPC and OT for their small screen to big buttons ratio. I should do those upgraded pads on day.
Dope video… I also watch JMB … I gain lots of information from him. I don’t make the same type of music he does… but his approach to beat making is very interesting. 😎👍🏽
I remember watching Damu The Fudgemunk bangin out MPC 2000xl beat vids back in 2007. Probably the first live beats I came across in the early days of TH-cam.🤔
JonWayne is the MAN. His beats are incredible and his personality is hilariously genuine. Love the Jon makes beats series.🔊🤌🏼🔥
Boonie Mayfield was one of the TH-cam beat making originators. Maybe Ryan Leslie then him.
cool video sick beat
Dope video!…Jon Wayne had me wanting to buy an Oktatrak he’s 🔥🔥
I don't make hip hop (dark techno guy here) or use an octatrack (I do have a digitakt & syntakt though, go elektron) but I follow Jon firstly because I respect him as an artist (his albums are great), secondly because his creative philosophising is both interesting and thoughtful, and thirdly because he's basically entertaining to watch.
Good video for the time. Aged badly.
If you did this video now, it would be all about how he makes literally the same exact video every single time with a different thumbnail text/title.
Well said, I think it happens to a lot of people. After I made this video he just kind of fell off my homepage. The SP404 was kind of the channels creative peak but then who am I to talk I made one real video since this one.
Appreciate you watching.
@@Labergemusic No no, your video is really good and I'm actually surprised you agree with what I said. You did really good and you were early. What people want from a youtube channel is for it to evolve, he went the exact opposite way to keep his patreons.
Also agreed, we watch the sp404 video every 2 months here in the studio. Don't even know why it's that one in particular.
@@notreally-sf3df What do you think I could do differently to solve this issue? The channel has always been the same (make a beat, have fun). The only difference is those were video where I was sampling and now I'm going through a synth phase. Would love to have the both of you back to the channel!
@@jonmakesbeats Hey, didn't expect you to see this, or see it so quickly.
You deserve a legit answer!
We talk about you all the time here in the studio, because we're entering a new phase of content and you're a very good example of how it should be done in 2024. Actually had a 2 hour yap session with chatgpt about what you were doing and why it WORKS to make the same video over and over. We actually think it's a really good idea and something we've never really seen before in such a specific way.
I noticed it after you came back 3 months ago after being more sporadic. Someone cracked a joke about it and then every thumbnail on our frontpage confirmed it to the point of us all going "wow he really is making the same video with a different thumbnail text and title, yet he keeps most viewers".
It is probably partly because you modified your studio setup. You have that setup, so you do things that way. Here in our studio, we actually have a LOT of hardware that is just sitting to the left of me (OP-1 field, chompi, polyend tracker, zoia etc, all the more modern crazy stuff), even though it's set up on at table/wall with $500 of cables and a solution to do both individual tracks to the computer and completely dawless with a sd card. To use that setup, I'm going to have to use the daw less and I'm just so excited about new-ish software and the workflow I have to dump that and go stand up at the table, so it's something that is disabling me at the moment as opposed to enabling me with all its possibilities. My current situation of working on multiple genres and styles is definitely not helping.
So, let's define why i'm saying "the same video over and over". 10ish months ago, you had a good version of youtuber brain when something was different per video (soundfonts, sampling a plugin, 5 things) and was easily communicated in a thumbnail and title. This was effectively the same video, you with your visual setup, your gear and doing something with a slight twist. Before that, you had a unique take on dawless, but it didn't need specific pre-communicated twists since you were so unique in what you did and you had your initial boom. Stopping at the "worse laptop" video, you took a bit of a break, did the studio modifications and now you are effectively making the exact same video every time again, but the shine of "dawless octatrack guy" is gone. You can do the odd yap-video (yours was good!) and then 5 more of the same video etc, but it's more obvious that it's "another Jon" video now than it has ever been before, which makes it less special. This is definitely something every lifer goes through in the "mid-phase" of a newer endeavour, so it's nothing new; but you were the first person that made me realize that it IS the same video every single time, because you were always associated with some sort of shine anchoring your very obvious skills and dedication.
So, in the last month, we've figured out how we could basically start the way you're doing it right now, then pivot to the shine. What we found in our research was that anything you do with a challenge involved is really good. It's not about using a sp-404 or a mpc one, having new gear all the time; it's about the session we're shadowing you on being its own thing. There'll always be a subsect of people who see the individual beat as one (and it does work for me at times too), but including some modifier that sets up each session is what we've found to be key. It could be simple and you should still be in a relaxed/fun/chill mindset.
Here are some things we've figured out for our new endeavour. The style of music we want to highlight is quite ambient and nice to listen to, but can still be very technical and production-heavy. I wanted to do a video of how to incorporate generative techniques, which is a very heavy topic; but through some brainstorming and exclusion we figured out that a video on making music that basically becomes your own personal "lofi girl" channel just for your own enjoyment would be the way to tackle such a heavy handed topic. If that goes well, we could do variation videos of that in the form of more meditative sounding long pieces or simply resampling these into songs; it could spawn 10 more videos easily because of the inherent appeal of the randomness that generative music can enable despite seeming completely out of reach for the common person.
Another thing about the particular style is the combination of organic and synthethic elements. Making synthethic sounds sound like organic foley is one way to do it and using granular synths with organic recordings is another way to do it. That's 2 videos right there, but we could also repeat that multiple more ways by sometimes mentioning granular synthesis specifically in the title and sometimes using a free granular plugin and tout "this feels like cheating, for free!"; easily creating 10 variations of a simple concept like that by also sometimes focusing on the alluring repetitiveness of one 8-bar loop, sometimes focusing on a a/b switch and sometimes focus on a complete full length piece. Other variations would be to resample your voice once in the context of a normal beat, see if people catch on to it, then do a full-length beat video anchored by voice, then a more "educational" approach to it (which could go pretty personal and fuckaround-y) and then finally do a video on the tool/technique people seem to resonate with the most. That enables 4+ videos all based on the running feedback you're getting from your community on each video.
In our opinion, the latter concept is what's kind of missing on your channel in the last few months, but we do really like how you've not fallen off and manage to keep going. That's what inspired us to tackle this topic and figure it out for ourselves. Let me know if anything resonated, thanks for the content!
@@notreally-sf3dfThat's interesting and all but what I'm seeing is Jon make beats and what you're talking about is Jon the influencer
Bro…did you just say the Oktatrak is the greatest sampler ever created?? Lord please forgive him for he not knoweth what he sayeth…May the Akai Gods have mercy on your soul😢
I'm literally sitting in front of an MPC!! You could make an argument for the MPC or even the Sp1200. I found the OT was able to so much more.
@@Labergemusic I was just playing up to the cult like Akai mentality just kidding around although I don’t know if any sampler can mess with the new MPC’s I’ve owned the 1000 in the past, but the MPC live 2 is my favorite sampler.
@@drenolynbeats Haha I know! But you have a point tho, you can definitely can say the MPC is better. I haven't tried any MPC past the 2500 really. Should check out the Live series sometime.
Mpc was never the best sampler. It always had the domestic sequencer.
Like #420 Yes!!
They not even playing live ...its all prerecorded beats and head movements 🤣🤣
Incorrect.