If you want to edit across both apps but don’t want to upload the full photos into Adobe Cloud there is an easier option which is to import in Lightroom Classic and add to a cloud synced collection - the collection will be available as an Album in Lightroom and only the smart preview will be synced to the cloud enabling full editing even in Lightroom no need to mess around with XMP’s (although you can enable them if you want as per other comments it means one less issue if any problems with your catalog).
A collection created in LRClassic automatically syncs to the cloud and will appear in LR (cloud) as an album. Nomenclature is confusing; collections in LRClassic appear as albums in LR (cloud).
LrC can write XMPs automatically if you tell it to. And you really should if you don't want to lose your work when your catalog gets corrupted. It's a single checkbox in the catalog settings.
There are a couple od advantages to Classic that I find to be important. Classic has "color label", this helps with precise organization (for my workflow). Another is the "people" mask, CC has only subject and doesn't isolate people and people's features (hair, skin, etc.). This reduces the need to go to photoshop (sometimes).
I had to go double check this but you're half right. LRCC doesn't have the color labels which is a great point. However, it definitely has the ability to mask people and peoples features. This might be new so make sure to check your updates.
Lightroom has had the same people mask tools as Classic for quite some time... on the desktop. If you're referring to LR Mobile, then you are correct: that version does not have People detection/masking. HOWEVER, any people masks that you create on the desktop will be available on Mobile. Also, while I understand that LR doesn't have color labels, it does have Stars and Flags. And you can apply a keyword, such as "Yellow," which you can then search and filter by.
@@dunnadidit your absolutely right! I just checked and CC was 2 updates behind (I just set it to auto update). I found a new option in CC mask, which is mask preset, similar to Classic. But I can’t see an option to sync or import the brush presets I have in Classic.
Photo stacking is another one. I shot 4 pics almost identical so wanted to stack them to aid organisation. I did this in Lightroom on the desktop. Neither Lightroom Mobile or Lightroom Classic picked up the changes (there were all cloud photos so should of syncd.)
Great vid! Have been using both LRC and LR for many years now, but especially after the Creative Clouds based file system was abandoned it was time for me to review and change the Workflow, the organization of files and folders and even my hardware (local vs cloud vs external ssd for traveling etc.). I understand what direction Adobe is going into with cloud based platforms but in my humble opinion file/folder organization and workflow does not seem to be a priority on top of their list. Both in terms of structure and training. Anyway, thanks very much for the input, gives me a good feel for what direction I should pursue.
My workflow starts by adding the photos into Lightroom on the desktop, this uploads them all to the cloud so they are safe. I then open Lightroom classic, this sync’s with the cloud and my photos are available. I use classic to edit them. At this point it’s all synced with LR LRC and LR mobile. 🎉
This helped me a lot! I just bought a laptop that doesn't support Lightroom Classic, so now I can easily switch from one to the other. Laptop with great screen for editing and stationary computer with bad screen but Lightroom Classic for printing.
The easier way is to just use cloud sync in both, but MAKE SURE in LrC that you have it sort by date folders. If you have file names that are the same it will merge them if it's not putting them into date folders. My workflow now is to ingest in Lr Desktop so it uploads the RAWs to the cloud and then work in LrC because the performance is way better and there are still features I prefer in LrC. It also syncs your changes back and forth.
I love the feature and convenience in LR(cloud), but uploading all the raw files will make the cloud space full vy soonnnnn, do u guys think so? any good workflow to do it? My concern: convenient(swift from different devices, different computers), not use too much space in Adobe cloud
@@kaiyanrayngan8702 well, that depends what cloud plan you have. You can buy more storage too. It also depends how much of a RAW hoarder you are. I am not. I keep all photos for 2 months, then I go back and look at the rejects one more time (sometimes I find something I overlooked). If they're still rejects by then, they're deleted from the cloud. I still hoard the originals because I backup my SD cards before I wipe them. Those get more like a few years before I delete them.
Man you won't believe but this dilemma between both these platforms is something I was trying to wrap my head around since last week, and here you are, like a big brother I could ask for help and would guide me through the solution. Thanks man, appreciate it, been following you since I started watching your davinci tutorials, big love dude. Though I subscribed through this account a few days ago only, I follow you via my primary since long. Thanks again bro ❤
Lightroom has Versions, which is the closest analogue to Classic’s virtual copies, and it rocks because they sync across all devices. With that said, Versions only works with Cloud-synced photos, not Local photos.
Thanks for pointing this out! I do wish that there was a way to do this with local files though (which makes sense why it didn't pop up on my radar). Who knows, maybe I'll start using the cloud stuff more!
@@dunnadidit My pleasure! LR Local does an admirable job with all the info it stores in metadata, but I guess that Versions isn't supported. In terms of features missing while using Local, there aren't many, but the most important ones (to me, anyway) are: • No Versions • No Stacking • No AI-powered search Aside from that, you've got pretty much every editing tool that LR offers (including Denoise AI and HDR/Pano photo merge) without having to copy anything to the cloud. Not too shabby! I'm pretty entrenched with the entire LR cloud ecosystem, so if there's anything that I can help with (because there are definitely some important workflow tidbits), please reach out!
i use classic for long - professional works, and the mobile only for mobile shoots, but now the question: How to keep both presets sycn? btw, precise content, im subscribed! keep it clear and fast, appreciate this !
Ya want a virtual copy in LR? Create it in Classic and it will sync to LR - if you do syncing I just now tested that and within 10 seconds I have a virtual copy in LR Another way is to 'Edit in Photoshop' then use the Export feature(s) there to make copies to your liking Export out of PS then import into Classic and let them sync to LR - - or Export out of PS then 'ADD" to LR. A nice thing about Adobe is that by using both versions of Lr, + Camera Raw and Photoshop, (sometimes Bridge) the result gets accomplished 😃
Great video man! But, can I just say: The very idea that we need to do this is absolutely insane. What was Adobe thinking, making this so damn difficult?! I am a classic user 95% of the time. But at times, it is useful for me to jump on my mobile in the field to do a quick edit and send to a client, or for social posting. The very idea that my presets are not synced between classic and the cloud is just ridiculous... I create my presets in classic. There is a way to export them but it is way too involved. Adobe needs to do better, especially for what they charge. Unrelated: I say that as a previous avid user of Premiere Pro that is testing the waters of Resolve. It is a pretty clear choice. Everything is so much simpler on Resolve. And color grading is years ahead of PP.
Right now my workflow is Lightroom Mobile on my iPhone/iPad during or right after the shoot (I love to edit a few key images and show my models or clients while they’re still there.) And then use cloud sync to migrate them into my desktop computers massive SSD storage for long term storage or mainly to Print, which doesn’t exist in Lightroom Mobile. Since I don’t shoot weddings anymore, I typically only end up with a few dozen images these days. Maybe like 100-200 if I’m doing a studio or car shoot. Street and casual portraits are usually just one or two snaps. If I ever started working professionally again I would absolutely have to buy a Macbook Pro and only use Lightroom Classic, for sure. It’s just far too many images to batch edit them on a touch screen, I would need Classic. Right now, my iPhone Pro and my iPad Pro might even be overkill for casual shooting, but hey I already own them.
The tools are similar, but management of the file structures can be a nightmare! There needs to be a course, TH-cam video, or book that very carefully explains how to work in BOTH environments.
I almost switched back to lightroom fully but everytime i edit something in lightroom and think it looks ok I then look at the capture one version and the difference is just crazy in quality so I have deleted lightroom completely and fully committing to capture one. The denoise feature is fantastic but i can still throw the images through camera raw and denoise then import the DNG files into my capture one session. Best of both worlds with that way of doing it.
Sony A7RV files. I think it’s the difference in sharpening and colour remove the sharpening in capture one they look similar but the colour difference is still there. The camera matching profiles in Lightroom for this camera are awful. Nothing matching about them at all the skin tones go red however in camera they aren’t so I don’t know who made those but they didn’t do them sober 😂
So Lightroom doesn't have a catalog, it works with images directly on the disk. Edits are saved to XMP files? So, like Lightroom Classic, no changes are made to the original file? Does that mean you have to export the edited photo like you do in Classic?
Honestly I use Lightroom CC on my Mac and when I carry my tablet around I use only Lightroom and I don't move the photos between them...too complicated. Ones I finish the edit I export the final photos in the same folder if they are part of the same project.
I am a longtime LRc user. I was on vacation last week, and decided to use LR on my MBA! Your Video allowed me to clumsily get my MBA LR library back into LRc on my main computer (Mac Studeo).. WHAT A PITA! I guess it's easy if you're willing to pay Adobe for extra storage. I ran out of space and had to upgrade for an extra $120/yr. I'm pissed and want off of Adobe Cloud which is too limited for social media, sharing outside the Adobe World. I've hear of people keeping their entire LRc Catelog on Dropbox, so when they're on the road, they always have their main Catelog. So here's my question. Why not have a separate LRc catelog on Dropbox and just import it into your main LRc after traveling? Downsides? Gotchas?
Your presentation is alright, it’s clear, but these might as well be two different softwares. I’m interested in LRC because of the catalog structure and I’m interested in LR for remote adjustments, which are importable to LRC, as well as a library of “best” photos in the cloud that are accessible anywhere. This is way too much workaround. Adobe needs to integrate one product, which has the latest tools from PS, and allows an import to cloud storage for access and adjustments. I’ll look elsewhere thank you! Geoff
Hi Dunna or can anybody help me reading this! I have an iPad 4th generation which works perfect and I’ve done all my photography work in that the past few years. Recently I’ve purchased a MacBook M2. What I’ve noticed is, when I use Lightroom in my MacBook the pictures are not the same tone/colour as when I use Lightroom on the iPad. I’m so used to editing in the iPad. Do you have any suggestions to match the tones up ? Love from Ireland 🇮🇪 Andrew
@@AJFaithFitness HI AJ. Funny you say that. After Dunna helped out. The True Tone was tuned ON on my iPad. I have both of them turned off now. I still use the iPad as my main workflow station but the MacBook Air for importing etc. maybe down the line I’ll gradually use it. But i discovered the cache feature on Lightroom and when i press that it cleared 9gb of space so my iPad is down to around 52-54gb on my 64bg iPad. So all good!! That’s for helping. Love from Ireland. 🇮🇪 Andrew.
Why doesn't LrC simply use the computer's file system? This drives me nuts. If I import, I get 2 copies. It should (at option) simply import virtual copies and have xmp data saved with the original image. Every other program I use is simply point and edit, including showing sub-folders. This should be either the default option or a setting in preferences. We should also be able to import into session/catalogue, again using virtual copies.
There is an option on your import to not make copies in LRC. If you unlock “make second copy to:” it will just reference the files wherever they are. Then instead of xmp files, all the edit data is stored in the catalog file. It’s only kind of half of what you were talking about but I hope that helps.
I still don't get why would I ever want LR CC -- to browse folders? But why would I do that? Every picture before it gets to any folder on hard drive is by definition first imported from the card by LR Classic version anyway. So I would just open that program and it has a ton more options how to browse and search for photos. I installed CC by mistake and as soon as I looked at that I immediately uninstalled it, it's just totally useless in my view.
This whole Lightroom vs Classic and keeping things synced, etc. is a confusing debacle to me personally. I can’t even wrap my head around how to keep track of most of what was shown in this video. In my opinion, Adobe should only have ONE desktop client that should look (UI) like the CC version but have the functionality of both the Classic and CC version. It should be setup like Capture One offering a choice of catalog import or sessions. Adobe has had years now to try and unify these desktop versions and to date - NOTHING. Classic should be deprecated and all features of Classic ported to the new Lightroom, for example, tethering and plug-in support. Tethering should be offered on the mobile app (like Capture One) and the new desktop (CC) version. Knowing Adobe, we’ll probably never see it.
I use both ( they are open on my iMac at this very moment). Steps: iPhone 14 Pro Max Pro Camera app (though MOST camera apps will work) Shoot - then select images to save Tap 'Share' . . . Tap 'Lightroom' Nearly instantly, images are in LR on my phone Images usually appear in Lr (mobile version) on my Mac within seconds A few seconds more and they appear in LrClassic. I usually rename using LrClassic (new names sync to LR) Stack in both versions to save screen space Edit - As needed/wanted
@@dunnadidit Same. I've seen this type of comment made by numerous people, and it leaves me genuinely curious as to what makes them think that. I'm a professional photographer and use LR Cloud 100% of the time. More often than not, it ends up being either a misunderstanding or a general lack of knowledge about LR Cloud. Once that's corrected, opinions typically change... or at least evolve.
If anybody is satisfied with the functionality of LR CC they don't even need a subscription as there are plenty of free simple editors, even one that comes with Windows, that can do pretty much the same. I'm paying Adobe for LR Classic because there is nothing as good for any money.
@@StoicJason Nazi Germany policies included emphasis on sobriety, sports, strong families, healthy lifestyle. Based on your logic you should embrace the opposites.
Haha! I mean, previously, I would buy the newest version of capture one every year for like $400... The Photoshop + LR bundle is like $20/month so it only costs me $240 per year 🤷🏻♂️ And I'm the kind of person who wants to have all the updates all the time so I assume I'll have to keep paying for them.
This is the common conversation right now. I totally get that people want to own things outright, but then, like a physical good, they need to be ready to pay for any upgrades or service that is necessary... what you're buying is that piece of software as it exists when you hit the "buy" button. There are some unicorn companies that will give free upgrades or service but usually because they make a lot of money elsewhere to subsidize this practice.
Imagine having to rebuy a full $400 program because the new 2023 version released the local directories after you just spent $400 for the 2022 or 2021 version. At $15 a month that $800 just covered you for 4 years, so it’s basically the same cost at the end of the day 🤷♂️
Everyone? I can’t believe people are still overpaying for Adobe products? 😂 I don’t know why I feel compelled to say this.? it’s some kind of Internet disease! Lol
@@spilak.productions When someone approaches you in humility and suggests that maybe their comment *may* not be appropriate (like when I said, "I don't know why I feel compelled to say this, it's some kind of Internet Disease" The more "generous" response is not to POUNCE on them immediately! This isn't a political race! This is why the world is full of all this highly reactive cancel culture and we have the problems we all have in the world today... Maybe we should treat each other with a little more understanding and like I said, generosity instead of trying to "one-up" the other person and continue this harsh approach to each other? Maybe? (Instead of using this as yet another opportunity to tell somebody off?)
Let's all try to keep things friendly here folks, no need for rudeness! The price is definitely an interesting conversation. I've been paying nearly twice as much every year for capture one to make sure I'm always getting the new versions and such, but, it is perpetual so I get to keep it (without upgrades) if I decide not to renew. Lightroom is way less expensive, but, if you stop the subscription... ya done! It really depends where you're at and what you use it for!
I seem to edit better in LR local perhaps because the demographics are thicker, slides are easier to operate on. But LRC provides me more options. My edits on LR local seem much better to me personally not going to lie
If you want to edit across both apps but don’t want to upload the full photos into Adobe Cloud there is an easier option which is to import in Lightroom Classic and add to a cloud synced collection - the collection will be available as an Album in Lightroom and only the smart preview will be synced to the cloud enabling full editing even in Lightroom no need to mess around with XMP’s (although you can enable them if you want as per other comments it means one less issue if any problems with your catalog).
Agree. I see import to LR for best photos, not all photos!
Can you explain how can made a cloud synced collection? I’d love to know how to do that
A collection created in LRClassic automatically syncs to the cloud and will appear in LR (cloud) as an album. Nomenclature is confusing; collections in LRClassic appear as albums in LR (cloud).
LrC can write XMPs automatically if you tell it to. And you really should if you don't want to lose your work when your catalog gets corrupted. It's a single checkbox in the catalog settings.
No way! Thanks for the heads up!
The weird thing is that this checkbox in the catalog settings is off by default. XMPs are sor useful with RAW files that I wonder why it is so.
@@TheXone7no he means that the check box makes it update the sidecar automatically. If not checked it keeps edits strictly in LR.
There are a couple od advantages to Classic that I find to be important. Classic has "color label", this helps with precise organization (for my workflow). Another is the "people" mask, CC has only subject and doesn't isolate people and people's features (hair, skin, etc.). This reduces the need to go to photoshop (sometimes).
I had to go double check this but you're half right. LRCC doesn't have the color labels which is a great point. However, it definitely has the ability to mask people and peoples features. This might be new so make sure to check your updates.
Lightroom has had the same people mask tools as Classic for quite some time... on the desktop. If you're referring to LR Mobile, then you are correct: that version does not have People detection/masking. HOWEVER, any people masks that you create on the desktop will be available on Mobile.
Also, while I understand that LR doesn't have color labels, it does have Stars and Flags. And you can apply a keyword, such as "Yellow," which you can then search and filter by.
@@dunnadidit your absolutely right! I just checked and CC was 2 updates behind (I just set it to auto update). I found a new option in CC mask, which is mask preset, similar to Classic. But I can’t see an option to sync or import the brush presets I have in Classic.
Photo stacking is another one. I shot 4 pics almost identical so wanted to stack them to aid organisation. I did this in Lightroom on the desktop. Neither Lightroom Mobile or Lightroom Classic picked up the changes (there were all cloud photos so should of syncd.)
@@brianmatiash also if you have a preset that uses people masking the presets will still create the masks on mobile
Great vid! Have been using both LRC and LR for many years now, but especially after the Creative Clouds based file system was abandoned it was time for me to review and change the Workflow, the organization of files and folders and even my hardware (local vs cloud vs external ssd for traveling etc.). I understand what direction Adobe is going into with cloud based platforms but in my humble opinion file/folder organization and workflow does not seem to be a priority on top of their list. Both in terms of structure and training. Anyway, thanks very much for the input, gives me a good feel for what direction I should pursue.
My workflow starts by adding the photos into Lightroom on the desktop, this uploads them all to the cloud so they are safe. I then open Lightroom classic, this sync’s with the cloud and my photos are available. I use classic to edit them. At this point it’s all synced with LR LRC and LR mobile. 🎉
When you did this - did your lrmobile file balloon up? If so, was it temporary? I'm having this issue following the same method as you.
And then how to save the original files in the file structure of your local storage and then how to organize the images in collection(s)?
This helped me a lot! I just bought a laptop that doesn't support Lightroom Classic, so now I can easily switch from one to the other. Laptop with great screen for editing and stationary computer with bad screen but Lightroom Classic for printing.
The easier way is to just use cloud sync in both, but MAKE SURE in LrC that you have it sort by date folders. If you have file names that are the same it will merge them if it's not putting them into date folders.
My workflow now is to ingest in Lr Desktop so it uploads the RAWs to the cloud and then work in LrC because the performance is way better and there are still features I prefer in LrC. It also syncs your changes back and forth.
Interesting! I like this idea!
@@dunnadidit yeah, I also do it because I do like to edit on mobile occasionally. I like to do exports on mobile to share.
I love the feature and convenience in LR(cloud), but uploading all the raw files will make the cloud space full vy soonnnnn, do u guys think so? any good workflow to do it?
My concern:
convenient(swift from different devices, different computers),
not use too much space in Adobe cloud
@@kaiyanrayngan8702 well, that depends what cloud plan you have. You can buy more storage too.
It also depends how much of a RAW hoarder you are. I am not. I keep all photos for 2 months, then I go back and look at the rejects one more time (sometimes I find something I overlooked). If they're still rejects by then, they're deleted from the cloud. I still hoard the originals because I backup my SD cards before I wipe them. Those get more like a few years before I delete them.
Man you won't believe but this dilemma between both these platforms is something I was trying to wrap my head around since last week, and here you are, like a big brother I could ask for help and would guide me through the solution. Thanks man, appreciate it, been following you since I started watching your davinci tutorials, big love dude. Though I subscribed through this account a few days ago only, I follow you via my primary since long. Thanks again bro ❤
@0:24 The correct caption should be: What did Dunna do when Dunna did it?
Dunna definitely did it! Dunna will decisively demonstrate the directions that Dunna did.
@@dunnadidit Dude!
@@dunnadiditman's freestyling 😂 h Mack in the chat
Lightroom has Versions, which is the closest analogue to Classic’s virtual copies, and it rocks because they sync across all devices. With that said, Versions only works with Cloud-synced photos, not Local photos.
Thanks for pointing this out! I do wish that there was a way to do this with local files though (which makes sense why it didn't pop up on my radar). Who knows, maybe I'll start using the cloud stuff more!
@@dunnadidit My pleasure! LR Local does an admirable job with all the info it stores in metadata, but I guess that Versions isn't supported. In terms of features missing while using Local, there aren't many, but the most important ones (to me, anyway) are:
• No Versions
• No Stacking
• No AI-powered search
Aside from that, you've got pretty much every editing tool that LR offers (including Denoise AI and HDR/Pano photo merge) without having to copy anything to the cloud. Not too shabby!
I'm pretty entrenched with the entire LR cloud ecosystem, so if there's anything that I can help with (because there are definitely some important workflow tidbits), please reach out!
i use classic for long - professional works, and the mobile only for mobile shoots, but now the question:
How to keep both presets sycn?
btw, precise content, im subscribed! keep it clear and fast, appreciate this !
Ya want a virtual copy in LR? Create it in Classic and it will sync to LR - if you do syncing
I just now tested that and within 10 seconds I have a virtual copy in LR
Another way is to 'Edit in Photoshop' then use the Export feature(s) there to make copies to your liking
Export out of PS then import into Classic and let them sync to LR -
- or Export out of PS then 'ADD" to LR.
A nice thing about Adobe is that by using both versions of Lr, + Camera Raw and Photoshop, (sometimes Bridge) the result gets accomplished 😃
Great video man! But, can I just say: The very idea that we need to do this is absolutely insane. What was Adobe thinking, making this so damn difficult?! I am a classic user 95% of the time. But at times, it is useful for me to jump on my mobile in the field to do a quick edit and send to a client, or for social posting. The very idea that my presets are not synced between classic and the cloud is just ridiculous... I create my presets in classic. There is a way to export them but it is way too involved. Adobe needs to do better, especially for what they charge. Unrelated: I say that as a previous avid user of Premiere Pro that is testing the waters of Resolve. It is a pretty clear choice. Everything is so much simpler on Resolve. And color grading is years ahead of PP.
Good tutorial.. how can u export presets in Adobe Lightroom as presets to share to my friend
Right now my workflow is Lightroom Mobile on my iPhone/iPad during or right after the shoot (I love to edit a few key images and show my models or clients while they’re still there.) And then use cloud sync to migrate them into my desktop computers massive SSD storage for long term storage or mainly to Print, which doesn’t exist in Lightroom Mobile.
Since I don’t shoot weddings anymore, I typically only end up with a few dozen images these days. Maybe like 100-200 if I’m doing a studio or car shoot. Street and casual portraits are usually just one or two snaps. If I ever started working professionally again I would absolutely have to buy a Macbook Pro and only use Lightroom Classic, for sure. It’s just far too many images to batch edit them on a touch screen, I would need Classic. Right now, my iPhone Pro and my iPad Pro might even be overkill for casual shooting, but hey I already own them.
The tools are similar, but management of the file structures can be a nightmare! There needs to be a course, TH-cam video, or book that very carefully explains how to work in BOTH environments.
I almost switched back to lightroom fully but everytime i edit something in lightroom and think it looks ok I then look at the capture one version and the difference is just crazy in quality so I have deleted lightroom completely and fully committing to capture one. The denoise feature is fantastic but i can still throw the images through camera raw and denoise then import the DNG files into my capture one session. Best of both worlds with that way of doing it.
What raw files you using? Super fascinated by this
Sony A7RV files. I think it’s the difference in sharpening and colour remove the sharpening in capture one they look similar but the colour difference is still there. The camera matching profiles in Lightroom for this camera are awful. Nothing matching about them at all the skin tones go red however in camera they aren’t so I don’t know who made those but they didn’t do them sober 😂
Flags are now included in the XMP file and transfers between LR and LrC... They are slowly chipping away the little things not in LR.
So Lightroom doesn't have a catalog, it works with images directly on the disk. Edits are saved to XMP files? So, like Lightroom Classic, no changes are made to the original file? Does that mean you have to export the edited photo like you do in Classic?
Honestly I use Lightroom CC on my Mac and when I carry my tablet around I use only Lightroom and I don't move the photos between them...too complicated. Ones I finish the edit I export the final photos in the same folder if they are part of the same project.
I am a longtime LRc user. I was on vacation last week, and decided to use LR on my MBA! Your Video allowed me to clumsily get my MBA LR library back into LRc on my main computer (Mac Studeo).. WHAT A PITA! I guess it's easy if you're willing to pay Adobe for extra storage. I ran out of space and had to upgrade for an extra $120/yr. I'm pissed and want off of Adobe Cloud which is too limited for social media, sharing outside the Adobe World.
I've hear of people keeping their entire LRc Catelog on Dropbox, so when they're on the road, they always have their main Catelog. So here's my question. Why not have a separate LRc catelog on Dropbox and just import it into your main LRc after traveling? Downsides? Gotchas?
Your presentation is alright, it’s clear, but these might as well be two different softwares. I’m interested in LRC because of the catalog structure and I’m interested in LR for remote adjustments, which are importable to LRC, as well as a library of “best” photos in the cloud that are accessible anywhere. This is way too much workaround. Adobe needs to integrate one product, which has the latest tools from PS, and allows an import to cloud storage for access and adjustments. I’ll look elsewhere thank you! Geoff
Hi Dunna or can anybody help me reading this! I have an iPad 4th generation which works perfect and I’ve done all my photography work in that the past few years. Recently I’ve purchased a MacBook M2. What I’ve noticed is, when I use Lightroom in my MacBook the pictures are not the same tone/colour as when I use Lightroom on the iPad. I’m so used to editing in the iPad. Do you have any suggestions to match the tones up ? Love from Ireland 🇮🇪 Andrew
Just a thought, but is it possible you have True Tone turned on your iPad and off on your Mac or vis versa?
@@AJFaithFitness HI AJ. Funny you say that. After Dunna helped out. The True Tone was tuned ON on my iPad. I have both of them turned off now. I still use the iPad as my main workflow station but the MacBook Air for importing etc. maybe down the line I’ll gradually use it. But i discovered the cache feature on Lightroom and when i press that it cleared 9gb of space so my iPad is down to around 52-54gb on my 64bg iPad. So all good!! That’s for helping. Love from Ireland. 🇮🇪 Andrew.
I wish folder architecture was better between the two
Lightroom has Versions for photos. It's not the same as virtual copy?
It's similar! But its only available for cloud synced photos, not for the local files.
How the hell did you get your finder icons to be different like that?
Haha, I have to manually change them. Hit cmmd + i and click the icon in the top left of the info, then paste a png to replace it.
Why doesn't LrC simply use the computer's file system? This drives me nuts. If I import, I get 2 copies. It should (at option) simply import virtual copies and have xmp data saved with the original image. Every other program I use is simply point and edit, including showing sub-folders. This should be either the default option or a setting in preferences.
We should also be able to import into session/catalogue, again using virtual copies.
There is an option on your import to not make copies in LRC. If you unlock “make second copy to:” it will just reference the files wherever they are. Then instead of xmp files, all the edit data is stored in the catalog file. It’s only kind of half of what you were talking about but I hope that helps.
@@dunnadidit Thanks for the quick reply. This is really good news.
I still don't get why would I ever want LR CC -- to browse folders? But why would I do that? Every picture before it gets to any folder on hard drive is by definition first imported from the card by LR Classic version anyway. So I would just open that program and it has a ton more options how to browse and search for photos. I installed CC by mistake and as soon as I looked at that I immediately uninstalled it, it's just totally useless in my view.
This whole Lightroom vs Classic and keeping things synced, etc. is a confusing debacle to me personally. I can’t even wrap my head around how to keep track of most of what was shown in this video.
In my opinion, Adobe should only have ONE desktop client that should look (UI) like the CC version but have the functionality of both the Classic and CC version. It should be setup like Capture One offering a choice of catalog import or sessions.
Adobe has had years now to try and unify these desktop versions and to date - NOTHING. Classic should be deprecated and all features of Classic ported to the new Lightroom, for example, tethering and plug-in support.
Tethering should be offered on the mobile app (like Capture One) and the new desktop (CC) version. Knowing Adobe, we’ll probably never see it.
I use both ( they are open on my iMac at this very moment).
Steps:
iPhone 14 Pro Max
Pro Camera app (though MOST camera apps will work)
Shoot - then select images to save
Tap 'Share' . . . Tap 'Lightroom'
Nearly instantly, images are in LR on my phone
Images usually appear in Lr (mobile version) on my Mac within seconds
A few seconds more and they appear in LrClassic.
I usually rename using LrClassic (new names sync to LR)
Stack in both versions to save screen space
Edit - As needed/wanted
If Lightroom could import/transfer my tagged people from classic, I would probably make the jump
Z to flag, X to unflag and U to unpick. I just found this by accident 😂
So…Lightroom for hobbyists and Classic for professionals. Got it.
Interesting take... I'd love to know how you got that from what was said in this video. Not being sarcastic or anything, I'm genuinely interested.
@@dunnadidit Same. I've seen this type of comment made by numerous people, and it leaves me genuinely curious as to what makes them think that. I'm a professional photographer and use LR Cloud 100% of the time.
More often than not, it ends up being either a misunderstanding or a general lack of knowledge about LR Cloud. Once that's corrected, opinions typically change... or at least evolve.
If anybody is satisfied with the functionality of LR CC they don't even need a subscription as there are plenty of free simple editors, even one that comes with Windows, that can do pretty much the same. I'm paying Adobe for LR Classic because there is nothing as good for any money.
Heard Scott Kelby say LRCC was for babies. Knowing his reputation, I knew I had to choose LRCC 😂
@@StoicJason Nazi Germany policies included emphasis on sobriety, sports, strong families, healthy lifestyle. Based on your logic you should embrace the opposites.
So resuming, there is zero pros of using Lightroom cc if you don't use the cloud. Why not stick to classic.
A non-import straight from the system folder structure workflow is when I use it mostly.
Yes give adobe all the money
Haha! I mean, previously, I would buy the newest version of capture one every year for like $400... The Photoshop + LR bundle is like $20/month so it only costs me $240 per year 🤷🏻♂️ And I'm the kind of person who wants to have all the updates all the time so I assume I'll have to keep paying for them.
Who do you give your money to?
SUBSCRIPTION based = No-Go, I pay I own, I don't get milked for the rest of my life by a marketing dude.
Do you think that you will receive the support and updates of a major tech developer for a one off payment ? Kidding yourself
This is the common conversation right now. I totally get that people want to own things outright, but then, like a physical good, they need to be ready to pay for any upgrades or service that is necessary... what you're buying is that piece of software as it exists when you hit the "buy" button. There are some unicorn companies that will give free upgrades or service but usually because they make a lot of money elsewhere to subsidize this practice.
Imagine having to rebuy a full $400 program because the new 2023 version released the local directories after you just spent $400 for the 2022 or 2021 version.
At $15 a month that $800 just covered you for 4 years, so it’s basically the same cost at the end of the day 🤷♂️
Everyone? I can’t believe people are still overpaying for Adobe products? 😂 I don’t know why I feel compelled to say this.? it’s some kind of Internet disease! Lol
Mr. Disease, instead of this useless talk, try to offer us all a better and cheaper alternative to Adobe Lightroom... thanks 👍
@@spilak.productions When someone approaches you in humility and suggests that maybe their comment *may* not be appropriate (like when I said, "I don't know why I feel compelled to say this, it's some kind of Internet Disease"
The more "generous" response is not to POUNCE on them immediately!
This isn't a political race! This is why the world is full of all this highly reactive cancel culture and we have the problems we all have in the world today... Maybe we should treat each other with a little more understanding and like I said, generosity instead of trying to "one-up" the other person and continue this harsh approach to each other?
Maybe?
(Instead of using this as yet another opportunity to tell somebody off?)
It’s only overpriced if you don’t see the value. Plenty of people do.
@@TheHokemon that’s a reasonable response. Thank you.
Let's all try to keep things friendly here folks, no need for rudeness!
The price is definitely an interesting conversation. I've been paying nearly twice as much every year for capture one to make sure I'm always getting the new versions and such, but, it is perpetual so I get to keep it (without upgrades) if I decide not to renew. Lightroom is way less expensive, but, if you stop the subscription... ya done! It really depends where you're at and what you use it for!
I seem to edit better in LR local perhaps because the demographics are thicker, slides are easier to operate on. But LRC provides me more options. My edits on LR local seem much better to me personally not going to lie