Tisas Duty, Fullsize 9mm 1911 review.
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- Update: the gun lockback problems have been fixed with Mec-Gar magazines.
Here is my Box to range review of the SDS imports/Tisas mfg Duty, fullsize 9mm 1911, Had to fix this video so i reuploaded it. This gun is one of the best values in a 1911 on the market being available for under 400 at the time of making this video.
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I am from the Middle East and I have this same pistol. It is beautiful and a great tool. It is a pistol worth buying for the price
Thank you for watching my video and commenting, its great to see that i am reaching a international audience.
Get a Wilson magazine and see how it runs. This should fix the last round hold open issues.
Mark, sorry for the long time before responding, I have not had a chance to get any more mags for it, as running a youtube channel, things get busy, I haven't forgotten about your response, and I plan on snagging one sometime.
Nice piece and good shooting! Been seeing a lot of these lately. Mine runs flawlessly with 230 fmj but its been iffy with 185 HPs. Only complaint I had is that the thumb safety engagement was very weak and I noticed the safety coming off a few times while carrying in a holster. I replaced the plunger tube spring with a Wolff brand spring and now the safety stays on and off much more positively.
Hey thanks for the comment and watching! I have also noticed the thumb safety spring is slightly weak, but not enough on mine to cause concern, good to know wolfe makes springs to replace it though.
As another commenter stated, I think it's likely your thumb is riding the slide lock resulting in the slide not locking back. I've got smaller/medium hands and have never had this issue, it's always my bigger handed friends that experience this.
Nice review!
Hey I appreciate you pointing that out to me, when i make another video with this gun sometime I will try to see if that is causing my issues.
Super well built and the Ejection pattern is extremely positive sounds accurate i'm sold. There going for 399.00 at palmetto state.
Snag one, I highly suggest Tisas to anyone looking to purchase a new 1911 and not break the bank.
After watching a number of these reviews what I noticed was the thumb on their support hand was contacting the slide stop. Once they repositioned their thumb the issue did not return.
BTW I have the 9mm version which came with Mecgar magazines which are premo in my book😁
I agree.
1911 type pistols are finicky in 9mm depending on the way you hold it
Thank you, I will have to keep an eye on it, thanks for watching!
I just bought the 4.25 inch version. Absolutely zero issues. Put a pair of colt wrap around grips on it which fit perfectly.
You liking the tisas 9mm? I’m turning 21 soon and at the price point and for it being a 1911… it looks really enticing
I've been impressed with 2 45s and a 9mm version debating on the 10mm version
Make sure you get yours fixed if it was part of the recall, SDS is standing behind the guns and fixing them.
We have it in .45cal. And so far, we haven't had any issues with it locking to the rear. Did notice after break on period it does operate smoother.
I know its been awhile since you commented, But have you seen the recall on the .45 ACP ones? Make sure to get it taken care of if yours is covered.
1911 grips are so cheep(for most part) and there’s a million what grips come on it is a perfect way to save some money from the factory in my opinion.I really like the Tisas guns I’ve shot,I think they have lifetime warranty now also.
I have the Tisas 1911 Service Special in .45 ACP on my hip as I write this in a reproduction US Army 1942 leather holster. Happy enough with the fit and finish of this one I ordered from Bud's the US Army marked 1911A1 in .45 ACP and a second in 9 mm.
How's it been doing for you in the month since you commented, always like to hear how people are enjoying their guns!
goat break is amazing seriously i appreciate that being added
I’ll be bringing it back again, just missed getting some goat footage last couple vids. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for putting this together. Gave me a good idea of the gun and its capabilities. Nice ammo switching too.
Hey you are welcome George, I am glad it helped.
I loved everything about mine except for the ejection pattern.every 3 rds the shells hit me in my face.put around 400 rds through it thinking it was a break in issue but I bought it used.last weekend a shell got me in my left eye and burned me so good I felt like Anakin Skywalker at work with everyone asking "Omg,what happened to your eye?".lol. I put it down ever since until I can find a solution.other than that no stove pipes or hiccups of any kind.nice shooter.
Oh man that sounds like it sucks, maybe it has something to do with extractor tension? I have read about adjusting it, and it may have something to do with it, i would look into it.
Maybe you should consider wearing safety glasses when shooting.
@@roncrawford7128 they held the shell while it fried my face.never shoot without them my friend.
@@WVGunsNGoats after I posted this I did some more research...wilson combat makes 70s series extractors.according to some reviews others have put them in their RIA and springfields and it fixed the problem.gonna order one this weekend.if this works I will be picking up 3 more Tisas like the raider,the D10 and the carry model with the ed brown grip.And of course the prices are very attractive in our wonderful economy we are all enjoying right now.glad i saw your upload as it renewed my interest.
I'm glad my video reignited your interest in messing with your 1911, an extractor is pretty easy to change and I hope it fixed the issue you are having with the ejection pattern.
Remember, Turkish guns are typically tuned to their native ammo which is NATO ammo which is usually hotter. What that means is typically heavier springs. On top of that you have all that mass that a tiny 9mm is trying to push lol
I had problems with my factory mags. They wouldn't feed the first 2 rounds from the mag AND would not consistently lock the slide open on an empty mag. I bought some Metalform mags and have had zero issues in the next 850 rounds.
Glad to hear those magazines fixed your issues, I appologize for the long time before responding, but in the year that has passed, how are you liking your gun, is it still working well for you?
I am puzzed about that rail. It does add a little weight to the muzzle end, but no matter what is hung on it rule #2 is violated. Looks sexy though
.Mine does not have the rail for which i am thankful.
I just bought a 45ACP tisas and my slide is hard as hell to pull back especially out of box until I ran 200 rounds threw it but definitely worth the money tho especially since it's my first 1911 to get into shooting one
So its shooting good now?
That pistol is a testament to how a full size barrel makes the most out of a round. Them mf'ers were smacking the hell out them plates now! I needs me a Tisas.
Hey it’s the best inexpensive 1911 on the market.
Just order my first tisas yesterday and came across this channel. Had to subscribe being a wv hillbilly myself
Thanks, Fellow Mountaineer!
I appreciate a good goat break
Thanks, they keep the range tidy.
I was thinking of grabbing one of these while they were on sale today but after this video and reading the comments I think I'm gonna hold off and just save my money up and get something different looks good prices good but after you add in the fact that you have to buy other magazines and everything else you're better off just buying another gun magazines themselves are 40 to $50 a piece I don't know about Wilson but I hear everybody saying switch to them I know their guns are very nice and extremely pricey so I'm sure the mags are as well glad I watched this hope your gun starts functioning correctly overtime or this videos of bet older hopefully it started functioning correctly and you didn't have to spend more money fixing problems that shouldn't come straight out of the box that's why I hesitate about these off-brand budget companies this was a life-or-death situation shootout and didn't have the option to go outside in your yard and train when you first get it and have to go to the range but it's your first carry gun and you get into an incident before you get to the range and you're carrying it this could be very catastrophic people don't look at it that way but lot of people out there only get one done just for the point of carrying and sometimes can't go to the range right away but carry it till they can make it there or get a day off work and this year could prove to be catastrophic. Failure could have you easily killed or very badly injured if Anna firefighter shootout with someone that's how I look at things that you run smoothly out-of-the-box maybe do a better check at the factory I don't know but I guess when the price of really can't complain there's guns like this out there for a double the price but they also had that name stand behind them to back it up I've never even heard of this company just seen it on the Palmetto website thought it look good but now I'm going to hold off thanks for the video
Hey Joey, i wouldnt hesitate picking one up for the price as they are quality guns, however as with any handgun you may be considering for a self defense use, you are gonna want to vet that it functions fine, atleast trying to get it shot once or twice, yes i am very lucky i can go out and shoot at my own range. However i would say that any gun no matter the price you gotta atleast shoot a magazine or two out of it before you carry it, i understand some people may be buying their first gun, but if you are gonna carry a gun you must make time to get it to the range before trusting your life to it. I have seen a two guns come from the factory with the issue that they would not fire. And one the guy had been carrying it and finally got it to the range and it was broken.
I would still purchase one of the tisas 1911’s as i feel the quality of the gun is good for its price.
I tell you what, i will make another short video trying the factory mags from the Tisas again, and being mindful of my finger position, and unlike the short where i used one hand, i will use a standard grip, and see if it was me or the gun.
I don't know where you're finding these magazines for $50, but I just bought 2 brand new in the package 10 rnd MecGar mags for $46 after tax and shipping on eBay. The ones that came with my gun work flawlessly as well, I just wanted more magazines. 😂
10 rnd Wilson Combat mags can be had for less than $40 as well. The MecGar mags work great tho.
Just bought one off Buds 🔥🇺🇸
Awesome! Glad to hear it, let me know how you like it now that you have had it for awhile!
When the finish wears off it will rattle a little. Mine did start after the paint wore off the rails
The slide not locking back could possibly be where you are resting your thumb of your support hand, could it be resting on the slide stop? It might be worth checking out.
Hey check out the latest short i did, Mec-Gar mags completely fixed the issue
@@WVGunsNGoats Good to hear! I really like their 1911 45acp 8 rounders.
Cant be sure( because of editing) but what I saw was a technical " tactical re-load" causing that first "failure to lock-back". I.E., 9 rounds fired, "no lock-back", re-load ( no rack), then continue firing, then LOCK-BACK! "PERFECT", was what he said. IMO.
Michael, the magazines were just shot on camera as they were shot, one mag at a time, i have ordered some new mec gar magazines and will be making another short video on if they affect the issue i was having, so keep watching for that.
@@WVGunsNGoats Hear ya! And, possibly jus new " break in". "Guns are machines are as finicky as women"!!
Just an update, the gun is still going strong after a year, I am actually gonna make another video featuring it soon.
I like it A LOT!!!
Great to hear!
I just got mine , when you said 400$ I thought I got robbed but mine is double stacked 😂😂 whew
How ya liking that double stack one?
@@WVGunsNGoats one of the best handguns I ever shot tbh
I am really looking forward to getting my hands on one of them, problem is no Local gun shops seem to carry them. Might have to look online.
@@WVGunsNGoats I don’t know much, being the first I bought but can’t you get them to order one for you
Hey man did you resolve the issie with your slide not locking back?
Yeah, i was able to get it fixed with new mags, and working on my grip.
I love the Novak 3 Dot Sights. Do all Tisas have them? Are the supressor height sights just as accurate?
I am not sure about all the other Tisas models if they have the same setup, i would have to look on their website.
So the mags do hold 10 rounds plus one in the chamber? Some sources say 9+1.
You could have your thumb putting pressure on the slide lock?
Slide stop or mags are causing the problem. Don't know what kind of mag follower it is, but the follower lifts the slide stop up to lock the slide back.
It has a rounded follower.
@@WVGunsNGoats Try new mags, such as Wilsons or Checkmate duty style mags with a steel(govt) follower. Maybe load an empty mag and pay attention while hand cycling the gun to watch the follower. A kit from Tripp might solve your problem. Lots of plastic followers come with a metal insert to engage the slide stop. Never had it happen to me yet, but possibly the mag is seating too low. In that case you can find online, mag releases that have a slightly raised tab to allow the mag to seat a bit higher. Good luck.
Thanks Ed for the info, i ordered 4 more Mec gar mags for it and we shall see if that affects anything.
Nice video brother I really enjoyed that it must be nice to have a range on your property😊
It sure is, thanks for watching!
Good video, thank you
Thank you Keith, i am glad you enjoyed it. Check out the short that goes with it i just posted where magazines fixed the slide issues.
That's a lot of gun and nice case for the $$. I live in the mountain state myself. Great video👍👍
Yeah, i am surprised by how nice it is, Thanks for the watch, Fellow mountaineer.
@@WVGunsNGoats Looking forward to watching more videos 👍👍
I hope you are still enjoying my content over the past year Jim, there is plenty more to come.
How would you rate the slide to frame fit vs a Springfield 1911 for example?
I’m sorry I don’t have one available to compare it too.
I Love My 45ACP Tisas Duty SSR that I did a Full Video on it. I think the 45ACP may be a bit more Reliable then the 10MM Tisas for sure. Your 9mm looks pretty good! Make sure your Thumbs don’t hit the slide lock and accidentally release it. I would keep your 9mm here & add a Tisas 45ACP when you can. My Son thinks the Tripp Research 9mm magazines are the very best for 9mm 1911 pistols BTW. Anyway Sir, keep up the good work on your Channel & Enjoy your 1911.
B9USA Sr. 😎🤠👍🇺🇸👏👏
Solid pistol for sure...a little break in and shes rocking!
I typically break a new gun down, make sure no burs, all is well, oil everywhere to include the recoil spring assembly etc., wipe off excess oil, and she will serve me well. Nice Video and nice shooting.
Thank you for watching and the kind words, I am glad you are enjoying your Tisas 1911! Make sure you check out the new Doublestack models too, I really wanna get my hands on one.
Hey thanks for watching and the kind words! I always like to see if a gun works out of the box, if it doesnt, i will then lubricate it and clean it and try it again.
just got mine
How ya liking it?
@@WVGunsNGoats havent shot it yet it was kinda a stiff when i cocked it back its my first gun I've owned so i guess every knew gun is like that but wit some oil in it should do the trick
Good review, thanks.
Thanks for watching!
I have this model in 45,,I also have to hold a tad high but it gets consistant groups.Looking to get the 9mm version.
Make sure you get it fixed under the recall they had on the .45 models if it is affected, in the year that has passed have you been able to get the 9mm model? If so how are you liking it and how is the .45 model treating you?
I am having the same issues with mine except mine keeps stove piping as well with the exact same model and caliber tried using standard mags and Wilson mags after shooting 300 to 400 rounds thinking it might be a break in period finally sent it in for a warranty and the replaced a “firing pin” telling them over the phone that I’m pretty sure that’s not it and you should shoot more then just 10 rounds through it they sent it out to me anyway with a repair TH-cam video of my gun being tested once I got it in the mail I took it to the range already knowing that they didn’t truly fix it fired around 150 to 200 round having 7 or 8 failures to feed and stove pipes after telling them the situation they said have someone send a video of you shooting it and capture the issue it seems kinda ridiculous that I have to keep spending money on ammo to find out what’s going on with it when they should have figured it out before shipping it out the quality control is not good and the warranty service is even worse at this point and time I would not recommend this firearm or any product from them I will update my comment if they make things right but I highly doubt it as I’ve had the firearm for 3 months now and bought with the intentions for personal protection/ ccw ended up buying different firearm for that
Hey Max, i would look into checking the tension of your extractor, i have never done it but i asked a friend who is a 1911 guy and he suggested it.
I don’t have a 1911, will this be a good 1st 1911? Does it have to be tuned by a gunsmith or is it good to go out of the box?
This video was shot taking the gun straight out of the box and shooting it, as always i would watch some more reviews if you are still unsure, but it performed well enough on the range i would recommend it.
These are great with a $20 Wilson Combat spring kit👍 For about $430 after tax, shipping, and transfer they are well worth the price.
If i start having issues i will look at adding one of those spring kits, thanks for the heads up.
@@WVGunsNGoats I swap springs on cheaper 1911's automatically. Not saying there is anything wrong with the factory ones, but on many budget 1911's a spring swap tends to be a good idea in my experience.
Hey, thank you for the information, sorry it took so long for me to get back to you, what weight spring do you recommend?
@@WVGunsNGoats I just buy the Wilson Combat complete spring kit 316/316C for either full size or commander. The weight spring included with the commander was 20lb
I would love to get my hands on the commander model.
I know its been a year (Wow) since you commented, did you ever get that commander model? If so how are you liking it?
@@WVGunsNGoatsno sir. Came across a Ruger SR1911 light weight commander in 9mm.
You are probably riding the slide..try changing you hold ,that will probably solve the problem..most people that shoots 1911 usually ride the slide.
Yeah. I’ll try it and do another short to see if its me or the mags :)
My mag release is insanely stiff, I ordered some Wolff reduced power springs to see if that helps
Mine is pretty stiff as well, i think its an issue with a lot of them. I’ll have to get some springs to try, let me know if they work for you please!
@@WVGunsNGoats Just got them in, they are game changers for sure, I recommend the #3 or #4 if you a lefty like me
Hey sorry for the hiatus, thank you for letting me know that.
I got the 9, have you been able to find a Kydex iwb holster?
No, i havent, i did find a OWB that fit though.
Everyone always shows the same side of the gun when they shoot it. I want to see how everyone is resting there thumbs on a gun review because that has a lot to do with the gun jamming or not locking back depending on the hold
Yeah, it is something I will have to keep an eye out for, thanks for pointing it out. I only have one maybe two cameras at times so i’ll try to get some shots from the other side.
Have the magazines broken in over time or do they still fail to lock the slide back reliably? good video!
Things seem to be going good with it, I will try the magazines that came with it again soon, and have an answer for you. But i have mostly been using the Mec gars as my main range magazines.
@@WVGunsNGoats The 10 round magazines that came with the gun are Sabatti magazines from italy like Mec Gar, RIA sells the same magazine with their 9mm 1911s the ACT 10 round magazine
Hey thank you for that information, sorry about the long response time.
@@WVGunsNGoats No problem
Get Wilson combat mags they will fix the locking back
Great advice I’m looking to get one soon
Be careful of your grip. You maybe stopping the slide lock by riding the lever.
Thank you, I will keep an eye on it.
How's the recoil on the 9mm 1911 pistol
Pretty light actually, easy to shoot
Ive seen very few of the tisas pistols that arent well made. It absolutely sux that no American companies can build anything that doesnt cost 800+ With lesser parts. That may or may not even be assembled correctly. Im against buying foreign. But when i can get a aluminum framed bobtailed pistol with barstock parts forged frame and slide. Cold hammer forged barrel. Im willing to support that company. I just bought a COLT competition pistol that is pretty nice but its 950 list. Dan Wessons are way out of sight now. Back when Bob Serva owned dan wesson they were a American made example of excellence. Granted back then he used cast frames. But they were fit and finished as nice as an ED BROWN and you could get one for 800 dollars. MAYBE THE TURKS JUST HAVENT LET THEIR GOVT RUIN THEIR COUNTRY?????????? Like we have.
...Turkish guns are so cheap in the US because their currency is in the shitter...exactly because their government has ruined their country...
I will say that the turkish economy is going through hyper inflation right now, and 1 USD id like 30 of their dollars, maybe more. So that explains why the cost of these is so low, labor is cheap to buy in turkey, and that translates to a inexpensive gun that should cost more.
I don't see it for 400 now in 2024
Yeah, unfortunately everything isnt the same price it was now that its 2024
Runs like a champian
Thanks for watching!
I think you’re hitting the slide lock with your thumb when gripping the gun.
Where did you see that Tisas used machined internals?
tisasusa.com/faq/ Question number 8 in the FAQ there talks about the machined parts.
Put ur thumb on safety and ride it. Will help u to remember to disengage safety before you shoot
Thank you, its hard when you go back and forth between striker fired, and single action firearms.
Those are called die-cast parts.
Hollow points jam up every time, anyone else having this issue ?
Hi Jake, i am not having any issues with hollowpoints feeding, is it one specific brand loading, or all of them?
@@WVGunsNGoats So far I’ve only tried Hornady critical Duty JHP with no success. It feeds ball ammo like a champ an might need more break in with fmj and better mags. Gonna try the mec gar 10rnd mag an if still has issues I’m going to try the Wilson combat, chip McCormick an maybe a Sig mag.
I will be making a video where i test out different JHP ammo types in this gun, just like i have done for my Apollo 11.
The mag's are not mecar, thank goodness. They are atc. Never drop a slide on an empty chamber on a 1911. Period! And that is not how you lube a 1911.Do a little research. Wilson Combat has very good info here on the Tube. Not good giving bad advice here as there are a lot of newbies like your sefl who don't need bad instructions!
(I can find nowhere in their info that they no longer use mim parts. Where did you get this info)?
KnifeMaker
I watched that video wilson put out, they said that yes dropping the slide on a 1911 can be damaging…IF you have a finally tuned match trigger, with a very light sear engagement, however its generally not an issue on guns with a 4/5lb duty trigger. (also it seems silly to me that people claim the 1911 is this battle proven firearm yet its so fragile that dropping the slide will damage it, just saying)
The No MIM came directly from Tisas usa in a post in their forum on ar15.com.
As far as lubrication like any other machine as long as you get lube on the major friction surfaces where metal rubs together, you will be fine with some small exceptions of places not to lube like a striker channel on a glock.
@@WVGunsNGoats True, however on a 1911, lube must be put on the front of the rails, not just the back. Also on the barrel, particularly where the bushing rest on the barrel in battery, the locking lugs on the forward end of the hood, on the link feet, and on the area where the recoil spring rod fits into its seat. And dropping a slide on an empty chamber will eventually loosen the locking lugs and give you the nice old fashion military grade rattle trap 1911 with poor accuracy. your choice!
I’m not sure if when i did the video (i actually have to watch again for it) if i mentioned that when i field stripped the gun and relubed it, i put oil on the entire frame rail length.
Michael i’m not trying to portray myself as an expert on the 1911 and i’m open to being wrong here, i just wanted to make a video about a gun i bought and going by what i have read, it seems a very divisive topic of weither or not it causes issues, i’ll have to try to start letting it down by hand unless loading it, if its an issue.
@@WVGunsNGoats if releasing the slide breaks it then you're in trouble if you do have a battle of some sort. I agree if 1911 is that fragile the a Taurus G3 is stronger
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Your not supposed to use oil on a semi automatic take it a part and clean all the oil off use a little gun grease on the rails only use oil on the outside 😂
That's a bunch of crap! 1911's are built with tight tolerances of the frame and side rails, you don't use grease and should always keep lubricated with a good oil such as what he was using in this video.
The only gun (well, main stream and not super obscure) i have seen specced for grease was the M1 garand, maybe the carbine? But i am not 100% sure on the carbine.
@@WVGunsNGoats I agree, I shoot both the M1 Garand and the M1A and they should be greased. The 1911 should be oil lubed.
What's it chambered in?
9mm
9mm, they also have .45 and 10mm models.