Magni And Vesper's Thought On The Senpai Situation

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  • @agathamayra5045
    @agathamayra5045 ปีที่แล้ว +543

    why is this the first time i've heard regis described as having "mom voice" and why do I 100% agree with it.

  • @oleksandrtarasov2633
    @oleksandrtarasov2633 ปีที่แล้ว +373

    "LAWFUL good" Vesper gives totally innocent ideas to crazy Maglord. Seems right

    • @youraveragemachine1013
      @youraveragemachine1013 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      "im lawful neutral because i want to be lawful"
      -Vesper Noir 2023

  • @ZeroRelevance
    @ZeroRelevance ปีที่แล้ว +408

    I saw a comment on a previous Magni clip saying he should just build a parkour area if he was going to jump around so much, but he actually ended up doing it lmao

    • @vdec9774
      @vdec9774 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      He should put some hay below it to minimize fall dmg

    • @Erealze
      @Erealze ปีที่แล้ว +64

      Now it looks like TH-cam short that i always encounter

    • @amspook
      @amspook ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@vdec9774 Or if he have a lot of resources, slab with water

    • @kurosan0079
      @kurosan0079 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @EREALZE Ah yes. Those shorts where someone reads a reddit post, then abruptly ends, then you have to read the rest in the comments.

    • @MainGoldDragon
      @MainGoldDragon ปีที่แล้ว +4

      reminds me of all those YT shorts videos LMAO

  • @zephshoir
    @zephshoir ปีที่แล้ว +186

    "He got the mom voice" 💀

  • @dalgona4819
    @dalgona4819 ปีที่แล้ว +552

    I'd honestly feel bad for the Vanguard if they did that prank I feel like Flayon or Hakka would take it to heart 🥲

    • @luka188
      @luka188 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      Yeah they're just little guys

    • @Gavriel01
      @Gavriel01 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      I feel like Shinri world see right through it and somehow reverse the bit on them.

    • @arthurscotchfir7167
      @arthurscotchfir7167 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@Gavriel01 But what if he join -the dark side- them 🤔😈

    • @Vintasticvin
      @Vintasticvin ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And Bettel

    • @Pseudowolf
      @Pseudowolf ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Same, but in fairness, they said that was before they even met them and once they did they dropped the prank idea probably recognizing that they might not take it in jest.

  • @fei9165
    @fei9165 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    LMAO altare really is their impulse control

    • @einzweichschein
      @einzweichschein ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Well, as an ex-toxic gamer, I guess he's well acquainted with toxicity to do damage control. Because, NGL. All VG boys are so serious that they'll take it to heart, imo.

    • @fei9165
      @fei9165 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@einzweichschein Yeah, thats why the bit was planned BEFORE they met the VG guys LOL

  • @rororororo6194
    @rororororo6194 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    vesper and Magni are like partners in crime,, so maybe Magni will come out with an idea and then vesper will make it more worst

  • @HejoYaBoi
    @HejoYaBoi ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Imagine if they actually does the bit and then when Magni come back into the call its Magmo

  • @blatantslander
    @blatantslander ปีที่แล้ว +113

    unpopular opinion but Altare got the mom voice

  • @bonkichi
    @bonkichi ปีที่แล้ว +116

    well im thankful they never went with that plan 😭

  • @HenhousetheRed
    @HenhousetheRed ปีที่แล้ว +206

    It was made a little awkward since the lore is that Bettel and Flayon are already Tempus members, assigned to find new recruits. The lore has pretty much flown out the window since their debuts.

    • @juanmfrutos87
      @juanmfrutos87 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      That's Hololive these days... We are lucky if they stick to the Lore for the duration of the whole debut stream. Not that it's a bad thing, really... Well, it is for people who care for the "immersion", but that's like 0.01% of the fanbase... Rest of fans know that the character is there to basically conceal the identity of the streamer behind (and not even that will stop a person who really wants to know).

    • @ihave2cows
      @ihave2cows ปีที่แล้ว +60

      @@juanmfrutos87 I’m gonna be honest, the quality of the streamers go up the faster they stop worrying about the lore. It’s like, okay for cementing character design, but it’s such a forced bit and it’s really easy to tell, every hololive is like this where their first week is the worst and then they ease up on the “character” and they feel much more natural

    • @oleksandrtarasov2633
      @oleksandrtarasov2633 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@ihave2cows the good exception is Ame I believe. She is just a normal human according to lore but the amount of fan lore and her own about time travelling/different timelines is quite creative and good. But yeah, being attached to own lore is very restricting in general

    • @thegreatgonzales6813
      @thegreatgonzales6813 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Hot take: Lore for Hololive at this point is just an excuse to creat unique identities and fun inside jokes and that’s the best way to use it. It gives these people a sense of genuineness but also gives them each their own flair. When you stick to playing a “character” for so long in a super serious manner, it can lead to problems. This is an issue Tempus has circumvented with flying colors.
      That being said, Bettel is 100% a clown

    • @Shendue
      @Shendue ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I personally don't mind lore. It's obvious it depends from holomem to holomem how much they enjoy sticking to it.
      Some holomems, like Dez, made it crystal clear from day one they don't give a flying F about it. I think he even got a bit bonked about being so vocal about it, IIRC.
      Personally, I think it's a great tool they have at their disposal for jokes and entertainment, to create content.
      I don't think they should go out of their way to try to stick to it because that would be too cheesy and ridiculous, but I wholeheartedly enjoy when they play around with it. For example with Kronii playing games built around time gimmicks. Loved Sana making jokes and variety about space related stuff, being super BEEG, her limiter, etc., Ina and her shenanigans about insisting being a normal human, and funnily enough, Calli, despite being one of those who always broke character no problem, is actually quite good at using lore for content, playing around with it, making up stories and jokes about it. That's really fun, in my opinion.

  • @pan_lonheyy1046
    @pan_lonheyy1046 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Magni had everything planned huh 💀

  • @pumpjackmcgee4267
    @pumpjackmcgee4267 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Calli = Dad
    Altare = Mom?
    What a world we live in.

    • @Ghostguy693
      @Ghostguy693 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      And Vesper's our Grampire
      And yet _all_ of them are also Calli's sons.
      Hololive family trees are just wheels.

  • @ivegotchu
    @ivegotchu ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Evil senpai lmao 😭

  • @MB-og3dw
    @MB-og3dw ปีที่แล้ว +11

    them detailing their plan to haze the new tempus boys is fucking killing me

  • @philtkaswahl2124
    @philtkaswahl2124 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    And yet you demanded Hakka show his spears again and called that senpai tax during his debut, Vesper. 😛

  • @vertellerbarach
    @vertellerbarach ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Awww, its cute that they are trying to have the guys be confortable and try to help them as much as possible...
    tho, i WISH we could of seen that bit, Altare acting would of killed me XD

  • @britonro7975
    @britonro7975 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    God, this would fuck me up so bad if they did this to me lmao, I would never recover

  • @jessquiatchon2204
    @jessquiatchon2204 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is the reason why I love these dudes man, their dynamic is so refreshing it feels like im actually with the boys

  • @jimmy_ink
    @jimmy_ink ปีที่แล้ว +40

    That's fucked up but it would be so damn funny LMAO

  • @shinodamasaru7945
    @shinodamasaru7945 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Hololive in West is more chilling without mentioning senpai thing. I guess that is wholesome.

    • @SpecAgentChris1
      @SpecAgentChris1 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Makes sense. The idea of "Senpai" and "Kohai" doesn't exist in western culture really

    • @MapleLeaf2501
      @MapleLeaf2501 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah seniority is less about honorific use and more of a respect for time put in, like you show you recognize they've been around but they don't get some fancy title unless it was a earned title (so Dr. X, Chef X, etc).
      Closest I can think of is referring people by family name or given name but making sure to add a suffix like Mr., or Miss., or Mrs. in front, English is way more keen on those.

    • @heerotomoe
      @heerotomoe ปีที่แล้ว

      Even for Holostars JP, they don't really use senpai/kohai for anyone other than UPROAR!! It's just dependent on the relationships you build. Though I've noticed they use it for outside the group since they're first called senpai by Tempus and ID.

  • @dion8723
    @dion8723 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    hakka and especially bettels nervous ass would cry immediately after lmaooooo

  • @jabetaguiluz7322
    @jabetaguiluz7322 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    All I care about is that all the new guys are respectful towards Vesper since he doesn't mess with anyone

  • @inanimatesum4945
    @inanimatesum4945 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I kind of hope the next gen leans into this bit now that their plans are out there.

  • @minomi2993
    @minomi2993 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I hope people will not take it seriously bc in the end this is just a what if and just intrusive thoughts.

    • @SoraRaida
      @SoraRaida ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Imagine if they DID do it though, oh boy the amount of hate they will get

    • @Reydriel
      @Reydriel ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Intrusive thoughts were a running theme in this particular stream lmao

    • @minomi2993
      @minomi2993 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@SoraRaida But what's important is they didn't do it. If you're not familiar with Magni and Vesper, they are good with dark humor. Best example is Magni being a psycho in their DND stream as Curiobot. As for Vesper, he told Kronii to insult him and don't hold back before they stream the Psychiatry stream. Its nothing new. Vesper even have a rejected chess stream idea where he will make fun of Axel's stupidity but management didn't let it happen bc Axel's fans might misunderstood it. I guess Vesper and Magni are crazy when it comes to creative content that's why they get along. They compare their intrusive thoughts to Gore movies where its dark and might be bad to others but we can't deny its a creative content that people would like to consume.

    • @SoraRaida
      @SoraRaida ปีที่แล้ว

      @@minomi2993 I know... that's why my comment stated "imagine".......

  • @grunt140
    @grunt140 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Man's jumping around like if he's playing maple or something.

  • @infern4pe808
    @infern4pe808 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    These guys would be so fucking toxic if they did that lmfao

  • @chey6073
    @chey6073 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    A group of mostly non-Japanese people conforming to Japanese honorifics culture in a non-Japanese setting while also speaking English doesn’t make sense to begin with 😂

    • @remnatsuki8792
      @remnatsuki8792 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      But for some reason it makes me happy just hearing them say Senpai to their senpais. At least during the beginning when the kouhais are still fresh lol

    • @Fanimati0n
      @Fanimati0n ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I mean, they ARE part of a Japanese company working under Japanese people, in a profession steeped in Japanese culture. It's only natural that some of that culture seeps over from JP to EN. especially when there are JP holostars that they do interact with who are their senpais by definition of the word like Rio, Astel, Izuru, etc.

    • @Tsurf
      @Tsurf ปีที่แล้ว +7

      To add what was said by Fani, the aforementioned senpai are all also really chill about the whole thing, even amongst the JP members. However, it still makes for a good impression that you're willing to play by the cultural rules.

  • @KeiosKod
    @KeiosKod ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love these moments these two have.

  • @Master_3530
    @Master_3530 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It's driving me mad that he can't complete the parkour lmao

  • @jamesjason8471
    @jamesjason8471 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Knowing Altare he would instantly forbid anyone from doing this bit, this Senpai Kohai culture never existed in Holostars to begin with.

    • @TakoTemp
      @TakoTemp ปีที่แล้ว +5

      well tempus said it to gen 1,2,3 and uproar

    • @gachagamer536
      @gachagamer536 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      They're EN, and they can start their own culture if they want to or not

    • @jamesjason8471
      @jamesjason8471 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@gachagamer536 A Primarily English speaking group seriously expecting each other to refer themselves as Senpai and Kouhai...If that's not absolute cringe then I don't know what is.

    • @hornitako7006
      @hornitako7006 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      It's a bit, they want to do it BECAUSE it's cringe and the situation is supposed to be absurd and make the boys doubt their common sense.
      Also I'm pretty sure 99% of JP won't get upset if they aren't called senpai

    • @gachagamer536
      @gachagamer536 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@jamesjason8471 You want to talk about cringe regarding virtual youtubers?

  • @seffirin
    @seffirin ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I’m so glad that didn’t happen even if it’s just a prank on the new boys, it’d be too uncomfortable to watch 😭😭

  • @Subberguy
    @Subberguy ปีที่แล้ว +32

    That’s messed up lol, these guys.

    • @fenrir3097
      @fenrir3097 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Hero guild by the way.

    • @FranktheSkeleton
      @FranktheSkeleton ปีที่แล้ว

      Boys will be boys

    • @kylerivera3470
      @kylerivera3470 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fenrir3097 Must be one of those newer stories where the heroes are actually the villains.

  • @justaloaf2698
    @justaloaf2698 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    THEY GOTTA DO IT THAT WOULD BE FUCKING HILARIOUS

  • @natsukicabulosa768
    @natsukicabulosa768 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's a very good bit in theory but I think it would make things very uncomfortable for all of them, so I'm glad they ditched it

  • @jpachu16
    @jpachu16 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Considering they didn’t even wanna split up the groups into gens and they’re all tempus, I feel like they shouldn’t use honorifics

  • @carlorielmendez6505
    @carlorielmendez6505 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Not surprised if these two get suspended after the last stream lmao

    • @amaratuber
      @amaratuber ปีที่แล้ว +2

      what happened???

    • @carlorielmendez6505
      @carlorielmendez6505 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@amaratuber Death and Taxes

    • @jon-unicorn-doxxer
      @jon-unicorn-doxxer ปีที่แล้ว +7

      well the vod still alive so yeah

    • @togek1ss
      @togek1ss ปีที่แล้ว +13

      honestly this is tame compared to their usual streams. the boys are fine

  • @astrealove2247
    @astrealove2247 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And now we know why Vesper & Magni are the 2 most unhinged in Tempus. Bettel doesn't stand a chance.

  • @gabrielvaldeswho
    @gabrielvaldeswho ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Personally I don't think Vanguard should call Tempus "senpai" not because that title is practically nonexistent in English culture but because they're joining the same guild. Like imagine the new kid in your grade calling you "mr/ms/mrs" you'd feel old or uncomfortable lol

  • @doragonmeido
    @doragonmeido ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ngl
    Vesper really needs a surf map or a parkour map

    • @doragonmeido
      @doragonmeido ปีที่แล้ว +1

      owww
      he is making his own parkour map

  • @vousmevoyes
    @vousmevoyes ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The EN girls doesn't even use honorfics, even jp some too. It doesn't really matter that much if you're friends and comfortable with each other.

  • @mimichuchu3267
    @mimichuchu3267 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait I know I'm 5 months late, but what was the senpai situation?

  • @alexwan6021
    @alexwan6021 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    SENPAI OR SEMPAI, WHAT’S THE DIFFERENCE???.??.??.

    • @heerotomoe
      @heerotomoe ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Spelling

    • @adrimarsink
      @adrimarsink ปีที่แล้ว

      Spelling and pronunciation, but technically they're the same.
      In Japanese, it's written as 先輩/せんぱい (senpai), but the pronunciation can be interchanged as "sempai."
      Let's also take Holostars' Gen 2 Temma and Uproar member Gamma, for example. Temma's name in Japanese is 天真/てんま (tenma). His name is pronounced as "tenma," but in English alphabet, he spells it as "Temma." Same thing w/ Gamma's name/pronunciation too.

  • @ZeroSpawn47
    @ZeroSpawn47 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Honestly, I hate the whole senpai/kohai dynamic thing. All it does is get in the way of everybody being friends.

    • @Vintasticvin
      @Vintasticvin ปีที่แล้ว

      Plus it's a Japanesey thing

    • @heerotomoe
      @heerotomoe ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It doesn't exactly get in the way of people being friends. It just doesn't work in English at all LOL

    • @adrimarsink
      @adrimarsink ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly, even HolostarsJP and Uproar also dropped the whole senpai/kouhai dynamic cuz they're all homies the same way as the Tempus bois. In fact, during the Altare-Vesper-Astel Apex collab, Astel even tried to get Altare and Vesper to stop calling him "senpai," but Altare and Vesper refused because they both like calling him "senpai," so Astel gave up. Seems it's a personal preference.
      I did notice one thing about the StarsJP is that, instead of senpai/kouhai, they do address each other based on age. For example, Miyabi calls Aruran "Aruran-san/Aruran-senpai" because he's older than him. All the StarsJP (except Aruran and Oga) call Vesper "Nowa-oji" (Grandpa Noir) because he's one of the older ones - they don't really see him as a kouhai. They also call Shinri "Shinri-san" too for the same reason.
      Maybe sometime later the whole senpai/kouhai dynamic will disappear throughout the entire Holostars.