Reverse osmosis water purification scam: Hidden camera investigation (CBC Marketplace)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 มี.ค. 2017
- Clean Water, Dirty Tricks: Marketplace goes undercover to expose the techniques used in door-to-door sales of water purification systems - devices that can cost thousands of dollars, but which most people simply may not need.
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I'm not even Canadian and I'm addicted to this show.
CHEF BOYARDEE Me too, loving it.
same
As a Canadian, I'm proud of the CBC. They're a government company yet they have the citizen in mind! They're not perfect of course, but it's way better than any news station I know of in the USA. I also have had the personal pleasure of working with them directly in my day job.
CHEF BOYARDEE me too!
NPR is about as close as we get in the US. They don't do many of these types of investigations though, local stations have their "scam buster" teams... but nothing compares to CBC Marketplace.
"I don't like to be impolite to anybody."
The most Canadian line, ever.
HA! Where Canadians be like: "this is a bit of a trick... and.. uh... we just wanna let you know... that we know about it"
Americans be like "Imma get my guns".
The "boomers", as they are called now, don't believe such con-artists exist today. The generation that lived through the Great Depression, as adults, who are now gone, would have never opened the door to a salesman.
@@marinazagrai1623 People were posing as city workers and casing out homes..
@@mike62mcmanus I don't remember what I wrote...2 months ago, so it's ok.
i, personally, think that this is what all of us should feel.
The shame is the elderly often are so lonely and kind that they get taken advantage of.
the1onlyteagro they’re paying for momentary friendship lol
No, the shame is, elderly are too ignorant and stubborn to use the internet to find out how much a regular reverse osmosis kit cost lol
@@z6fireace the world advanced so fast it left many of them behind. They don't have the same ability to use those resources as us
The elderly are just too kind and decent. Not that they don't know anything about the net or whatever.
The bad part is that the water test trick works on the marketing representative because they don't know better. it helps them sell the product that they also believe works. many distributors for other products are tricked into believing in the product or service as well. they regurgitate what they learn and think they are helping people. doesn't mean it's right. just saying: the blind leading the blind.
"There's more chlorine in tap water than in a YMCA swimming pool."
.... But.. they fill the swimming pool with tap water then add chlorine...
@Echo - you can clean a swimming pool with all natural products including baking soda. Of course the evils will never do this or even tell you that they can.
Way cheaper & obviously not toxic.
@@OurFreeSociety 🤦Baking soda balances pH levels in the water preventing algae growth. It does nothing for bacteria. Chlorine kills the bacteria. You'd need both either way. There is no global conspiracy against you by the YMCA and people who run public pools and install/maintain private pools. You haven't stumbled on some great secret hidden by the powers that be.. Get out of your own head and stay off wack job websites/channels. 😂
@@OurFreeSociety You might be surprised to find that chlorine is as "all natural" as baking soda.
@@OurFreeSociety Chlorine is more basic and natural than baking soda. NaHCO₃ (baking soda, made from sodium, hydrogen, carbon and oxgyen atoms) vs Cl (just chlorine).
This video contains both wrong and misleading information.
It claims most people may not need the Reverse Osmosis but the fact is that we do because reverse osmosis can eliminate substances harmful to the body such as chlorine, excessive minerals and dissolved heavy metal, if any, from the tap water.
Wouldn't basic logic tell you that if there is more chlorine in tap water than a swimming pool, then the taste would reflect that?
Lalita Love shhh
u kiddin me? NEVER. THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT. ✊
Lalita Love Ikr. Plus you would be able to clearly smell it
what is this logjic you speak of?!
logic... something lost
i run an aquaponic system and have my own water treatment and testing supplies/equipment. i invited on of these guys in, let him test my (treated) water, and then started asking questions. after he failed to answer basic chemistry questions, i pulled out my testing equipment, and showed him my filter system. he cussed me and left.
Poor guy was just a salesman that had no idea what he was selling but just memorized a script.
Good for you.
LMFAO BADASS
Hidden video that stuff my bruda😄
I had a similar experience. I do saltwater aquariums as a hobby and I have a 5 stage RODI filter. I called him out on the minerals test saying that his drops dont measure the mineral level, but instead chemically separate and coagulate them. I then put my water through my Hanna and Apex testing probes and the water came out very very clean for tap water (even a TDS reading of 23 ppm when his TDS read over 500). Told him to get the hell out of my house and then I followed him to every house he walked to and when the neighbors opened the door, I let them know he was a fraud. When he drove away, I reported him to the anonymous state patrol tip line for his expired plates.
Wish we had more reporters like this in America
Damn Adam, you beat me to it lol. You're totally right though.
We do
We do they just get silenced by the big shots pulling their strings.
yo egrubs, Adam said "More Reporters like this." We know we have them but like Mr sausage said, they get silenced....Some have lost everything because they tell the truth but if you hurt someone's "feelings"
We do, his name is Chris Hanson!
you guys actually saved my butt on this one! Called the salesman right out in my kitchen and he packed up and left without saying a single thing.
They also save themselves money by not paying their cameraman enough money to move out of his moms house! Lol just kidding I’m sure he could be there for a lot of reasons but I just thought that was funny
I feel so bad for that poor lady. $3500 for a $150 Home Depot 3-filter reverse-osmosis kit. Almost as bad as white-van speaker saleman
I don't. If she's of sound mind, she only has herself to blame. Take 2 minutes to do a bit of research to determine if that's a reasonable price.
I built my own RO system for under 90. 2 pre filters and a pair of RO filters rated at 250 gal per hour. I drink the water and wash my car with it. Dont dry and no spots.
If she put it on credit all she had to do was report the fraud with her cc company n she would get it back... If she had 3.5k just laying around she is rich anyway so I wouldn't worry about it.
I call police on the white van scammers. It's fun to run them out of town.
@@kornshadow097 She lives in a trailer.
Ugh I almost got tricked to working for simple h20. It sounded great at first. But the first day of training I was out. Thankfully I can smell BS from a mile away. Can't pay me enough to scam others.
Dude, I handed my resume in to one of the water people. Within hours they called me back. That set off alarms, so I asked them what I will be doing, and they were like "You will be driving out to appointments and testing customers water.".
No thanks. *hang up*
Is it salary pay? If so you could go around "selling" them with information about water filters and that they are $200 dollars on Amazon and then leave. See how long you can last. :D
Water Filter scams are old school..
Seen the show King of Queens where he gets tricked ?
I met people who were sucked in during the 80's.
nickyB4life Are you a living being? If so, be afraid...... be VERY afraid... chlorine's gonna get you. XD
that 3500$ RO system is worth about 160$...you can buy them on amazon or at homedepot all day long..
One day a certain company came to my house saying they can do a short presentation and in return they give us free tickets to stay at any of a variety of hotels. For some reason i accepted. It was a very long presentation about RO and his company and products. $15,000 or $4,000 depends what you order.
By the end of the presentation, i forgot about the hotel tickets they promised (and conveniently he did too)..so i called him up, so he said he'd bring them by, and he did.. but they weren't tickets for a free stay at hotels like they promised. The actual tickets had MANY conditions attached, like needing to pay some kind of holding fee and a whole range of other conditions.
I went on the internet and gave them a 1 star on the better business bureau.
1:55 WTF, thousands of dollars? I just installed a very similar system myself for less than $300 and I know literally nothing about plumbing.
Funny, I bought one for around 20 bucks, filters included ;)
Mine around 65 $ with 6 basic filters 🤣
I can understand that if you have sulfur in your water, but, a simple water filter works fine for getting the sediment and chemicals out of your drinking water.
@@cellogirl11rw55 Sediment especially. My Ceramic filter always catches quite a bit of gunk and the activated carbon filter definitely removes the taste of chlorine (that taste coming back is a sure sign to replace that filter!)... but truth is not all places need filtering & even then the cost of effective filtration should be well below $100 ($20-60) and nowhere near the $1000s these scammers charge
I bought a $120 ceramic purifier, looks exactly like one of those three tubes under that sink. The water tastes great, and I assume it preserves some of the essential minerals, minus the copper and other hard elements. I just need to open it up and clean the orange scum of the filter every few months. Had it for 10 years, still going strong :)
If someone tried this on my mother I’d tell the sales man to wait a moment while I go get popcorn so I can watch. My mother worked for years in the government water quality testing labs here in Northern Ireland. She’d talk circles around him and probably have him buying something buy the time he leaves instead.
Lol, i imagine the salesman walking out the door carrying some random antique vase or something
i bet he knew the difference between buy and by lol illiteracy is rampid in canada too lol
LOL I'd love a front seat ticket for that, myself ;)
@@davidsnow7903 you can tell bu the way you spelled rampant
@@R3ach4Th3Sky Bu!?
So the scam is not in the Reverse Osmosis device but in the selling of it.
No, the reals scam is that the government is using its main propaganda instrument, the mainstream media to tell you that you must stop filtering your water so that the government can continue poisoning you.
Yep, fraud and scamming. It a $200 product that they are selling to you for $3500. They are playing simple chemistry tricks and then lying about the real water quality. If you don’t add chlorine to your water, depending on it’s source, you can catch nasty diseases. That’s why developed countries have higher life expectancies.
There is nothing wrong with ro water but I could see a case for a lawsuit from some of the elderly. Ro water is lacking in all calcium and other micronutrients we need for healthy bones and this is very important for women and the elderly. It is not good to drink pure ro all the time. There is also nothing natural about ro as all water on earth outside of rain and snow melt has these micro nutrients in it.
Phlop Alopagus You are 100% correct.
@@rtheyfishing1954 Im a hydroponic farmer in Colorado so I use r.o. water daily. The real shame in this scam is even the best r.o. units are 3:1 meaning there is 3 times more waist water then r.o. water. I couldn't believe that women advocating taking a shower in r.o. water and using fear mongering to get people to waist 3 times the water to give your kids a bath should be criminal. Even in a water rich area I still don't like the fact I need it for work and went out and bought a special attachment to get my unit to 1:1 otherwise I would probably find another way.
Your water is actually 99.9 % pure gasoline
“I BELIEVE YOU, TAKE MY MONEY”
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I love your shows because you inform consumers of SCAMS especially for senior citizens who are most vunerable ! You are providing a patriotic service for Canada . I only wish we had something similar in the U.S. !
If you want truth you should never turn to your government or their media pawns for it. And we do have these liars here in the U.S. We call them the EPA
It is funny, I had one of these morons knock on my door and try to scam me. I let him do his test, When he started his sales pitch I laughed, I took him downstairs and proceeded to show him my 300 gallon saltwater reef aquarium. When he saw my fish tank, he looked like a deer in the headlights, he instantly knew that I was well educated when it comes to water quality and water testing. I also showed him a six stage RO/DI system that was much better than the system he was trying to sell me. I bought my whole system for 500 bucks, the system he was trying to sell me was half the system for 3000 bucks. If you want to install water purification with zero TDS then go to your local aquarium store and purchase a RO/DI system with a TDS meter. Do not deal with these water purification companies they will milk you for thousands.
That's very useful. Thank you
I think you mean bilk
What is the difference between a 6 stage system and the 5 stage systems that I see on amazon? (I'm doing the research so that I can install one in my home as the quality of the tap water is absolutely dreadful)...
Even $500 is a lot for a 6 stage system. I got mine for around $300 , but you’re correct. That’s a lot of replacement filters and extra resin.
Hey fellow reefer😝lol .That's funny😂
$3500 for a reverse osmosis system? What the heck, is it made of gold? I have one, got the best I could find and only paid around $600. And all this talk about chlorine in the water, but nothing said at all about fluoride which is worse?
Jason Craft with the amount of chlorine that he says is in there you'd be able to smell and taste it and it would even hurt your eyes, obvious scam
I'm disappointed that fluoride was not mentioned at all in this video. It's such a dangerous toxin and they add to our water despite all the fight we put up against it.
@Charlie K I just bought one here in Canada an AquaTru for $449 plus tax from Home Depot. I think they're much cheaper in the U.S. where this came from. And it's a counter-top so you save on installation charges. It's highly recommended by Erin Brockovich.
Mine does remove the clorine, because the tap water from the city is very smellier strong with the clorine. Mine is great!
you know, chlorine can be removed just by evaporation, but fluoride.. not so much. Fluoride for me was the selling point for drinking only R.O water
4:30
Him: ... Blah blah blah *mustard gas*
Her: isn't that explosive?!
Him: no, no it's a _gas_
🤣🤣🤣🤦🤣🤣☠️☠️
It was at that moment I thought
The man is going places. Not to chemistry classes, but places.
@@elvingearmasterirma7241 😂😂
Mustard gas isnt explosive and it is a gas. Dumbass
@@curtisyastic5131 ,
@@curtisyastic5131 Gases can be explosive... The woman was asking if it was explosive, not if it was some other form of matter...
These people left a pamphlet on my door a couple years ago acting like a some kind of official notice claiming some kind of emergency with the local water source along with a vial. It wanted us to fill it, and send it in for a free test. My girlfriend was freaking out, so I googled the name of the company, and found out it was a scam.
those under-counter reverse osmosis filtration systems only cost like 300$ to 500$ tops.
if u pay 3K, ur a fool.
No you are not. Reverse osmosis is the only reason there is fresh water in the world.
Fresh-water ponds? You mean from like rain water? Rain water is reverse osmosis through natural cycles.
The term fresh water is commonly used to describe ocean water after the process of reverse osmosis.
@ Furness Prime -- that's not "reverse osmosis". It is regular osmosis.
Under-counter isn't a thing. There are over the counter products and products that need installation.
"There's more chlorine per household than there is in a YMCA swimming pool." Umm if there was that much chlorine in the water you'd freaking smell it, there's a reason pools smell the way they do SMH
argonoth75 That smell is actually the result
of a reaction with Chlorine and substances on our bodies like swear and oils.
C@ptain_Jack NOTTTTT true because I do janitorial work at a gas station and we mop with bleach and it's smells like a pool
C@ptain_Jack no it's the smell of the chlorine is the smell of chlorine. It is a more volatile chemical than the rest of the water. so it get airborne at lower temps than normal water allowing you to smell it.....sniff a Clorox bottle. don't talk about stuff when you don't know. It confuses dumb people.
argonoth75 mabe ymca uses a bromine system, so no extra chlorine
*technically true*
argonoth75 While chlorine gives pool water the taste it is not what causes the smell. While it is a common belief, it is not the fact. The smell that comes from a pool is caused by the PH level. You can have an extremely high chlorine level in a pool with no smell, but if you PH you will have that smell with no chlorine present. Been in pool businesses for 15 yrs.
Prey on the elderly, this is a practice used for many years. Sears was a prime example of this, they knew the elderly would use sears for everything and priced accordingly...
They even had their own proprietary audio recorder that was a lazy retooling of an audio cassette named the “Sears Tape Cartridge”, which was only available at their stores. The size was a little too large to play in a regular cassette deck and also would play backwards if it could be fitted into one since the heads in their machines were upside down. Record-ology as recently as a month ago made a video of the player itself, while Techmoan made a video on the format in particular which as summed up in his words only existed to force the poor sucker who bought the thing into buying their own branded tapes. Extortion and forced dependence at its finest.
"Chlorine is dangerous to living things! Are we living things?"
I hope so.
Idk man I feel like a robot a lot of the time
Chlorine is also dangerous to certain metals such as iron and aluminium. They will get coated with FeCl3 and AlCl3. In other words, it damages tools, vehicles. I'm talking about chlorine in the form of a gas. Chlorine also dissolves well in water and I assume it can still attack such metals.
It also forms HCl and HClO in water.
I hate the water quality in the US in all of the houses if lived in the water was smelly and tasted like cheap bottled water that was left in the sun for hours. In the last house i lived in the last 6 month the water so chlorine heavy you could taste it, could not even use it for cooking either it tasted so bad.
I actually got conned into working as a sales rep for a company that was in Barrie ON called Pristine Solutions which did the EXACT same tests!!! Tho, I had used the demo not the drops to show the apparent "contaminates".
The information session that I initially attended had "me" convinced that Id be doing people a huge favor by bringing them this info & this "deal" because according to the trainer & management it was just a matter of time before it was required by law to have a filtration system in every home & better to jump on while they could get a "deal"!! They even had news stories to support their claims!
I wasted over a month & my own $$ "investing" in fuel/vehicle etc expenses that I was supposed to replenish when making a percentage of my sales.
I was soo young & gullible!
After getting concerned as I couldn't afford to continue spending $$ without making sales & I couldn't understand why people weren't more eager to get the system, which was my 1st red flag.
Also, I was planning to get one myself soon as I made a couple sales.
Then they started telling me to impose high pressure sales tactics on people which was the 2nd red flag (& something I refused to do)
The final flag that had me returning their water "testing" kit & feeling like a huge fool was when I had just done a test for a retired engineer. I called my manager for assistance at the end, & after he asked what the retired man had done for a living he told me to pack up & just go because he (the ret.eng) was too smart & I'd just waste my time!!
I was in shock!
& In hindsight, tho my mngr slipped up saying "he's too smart" to me, I think by then they knew if I hadn't made a sale then I wasn't going to & they'd be better off sending in sellers that don't mind pressuring people into buying something they don't want or need!
So please know that not every one of their sales reps are terrible people. If they are new to the job please give them the benefit of the doubt bc they may just be gullible & well intentioned like I had been. It's the company that's taking advantage of each & every individual that they can! Convincing folks that selling their products is helping the public. & Convincing the public they need their products!
Shameless! Absolutely shameless are these companies!
And be aware, they change their company name every few years in order to stay ahead of their terrible reputation.
Tamster did they ask that you put down a deposit for their demo machine? A recruiter contacted me but but it immediately came across as a scam
In my younger days I did some multi-level marketing which I was trained to make some questionable claims. I do love and still use the products I sold but I'll never so multi-level again.
@@mousetoad7040 iam trying to sue a marketing company called invent tech for stealing my 2 products and erased my online account
@@andrel7361 Wow! Yeah, a lot of shady multi level out there. OneCoin, a cryptocurrency that scammed people out of billions, utilized multilevel marketing and convinced people it was the next Bitcoin, but turns out they had no block chain. Good luck, I hope you get justice for what they did!
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You can buy a filter system like that one for 300 bucks
A basic 5 stage system without the tank is $138.50 at your favorite home improvement store and brings your dissolved solids down to zero.
$300 to $138.50 and both work better then this lie
@@maxboi1036 What is the name of this system?
@@indranieramnauth9903 Any RO Reverse Osmosis system. Price from very cheap 100$ up to 300$ which have 50-100GPD, prices depends on the quality. Plus in the range 200 to 500$ available real time 600GPD with an extra pressurizing pump (this one is expensive). better to buy with the transparent walls, it will be easy to check contamination of the filter material.
Guys in my country there is no such thing as drinking tap water. The only thing you drink is pretty much buying water from water sellers
From Arizona, this is the best show on television, YouTUBE, anywhere. Bless you Canadians for allowing those south of the border to enjoy Marketplace
Loooool "when ammonia and bleach get mixed the produce mustard gas" 😂😂😂😂 where did he learn chemistry? On breaking bad?! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
benny reich
When chlorine and ammonia are mixed it creates a deadly chlorine gas. It is the main reason ammonia was removed from cleaning supplies.
any acid can react with bleach to produce chlorine gas. Mix Bar Keeper's Friend and bleach and you've got chlorine gas.
@@nutritionandphysiology8023
Didnt know that, thanks. It does make sense, it is still a chemical reaction. I dont mix any cleaners, if it is real stubborn, and I cant soak or scrape it off, I use solvents like alcohol.
Cooking school because he loves mustard
@@robynannan7015 I know that but the mustard gas was just a little overkill... That's why I said he didn't learn chemistry, he just watched TV.... He probably doesn't even know the reaction exists between bleach and chlorine... 😂🤣
That grandma is adorable, it's so upsetting scammers took advantage of her 😥
Cindy Desjardins This scamming us happening far too often to kind the elderly,, and phone scammers from India / Pakistan are w I rse, with out a conscience.. God bless everyone
She dumb, use brain
@@drained1177 lol
A $250 unit For $3500 WOW what a pay day!
Damn. I can understand maybe up to $500 if you consider labor and installation, but not $3500. You might be able to make money on filters if you play the cards right
Just 60$ here if you can install it yourself 🤣
Or just get a water filter pitcher for around 30-50 bucks, sure you gotta fill it once in a while, but it will save you over $3000!
The lady doing the training lecture talks like an MLM "boss babe" lol
I hope all the Canadian's watching, are sharing this and telling their Grandy's to beware.
They are in NB and soon PEI
So you are right!
Reverse osmosis systems are not bad in & of themselves. They do remove contaminants from tap water & make it purer. This is usually more about the taste or smell of the water, rather than making it safe to drink. Most tap water is safe to drink already (notable exceptions: Walkerton 2000, Flint MI 2016/17). What I take issue with with these companies are the sales tactics they use & the prices they charge. The company in the video charged the lady in New Liskard $3,500.00 for a 5 stage RO system, when a good quality 5 stage RO system can be bought off Ebay or Amazon for less than $200.00, often with an extra set of filters included. Even if you have to pay someone $100.00 to install it (takes about an hour), that's still less than $300.00. These dishonest companies are charging people more than 10x the actual market value. That's the scam.
Cryptopolis Exactly! Lol
if the customer is accepting the price there is no scam
Cryptopolis: Most tap water is NOT "safe to drink."
Across the US, municipal tap water is heavy-laden with heavy metals--toxic to all living species, & Never meant to be inside animal/human bodies, nor plant-life either.
Trace amounts of all minerals are found in soil, water, air, & find their way into bodies, but the amts. PUT into our drinking water is criminally insane.
Europe bans fluoride, for one, that the US touts as the miracle elixir of the gods to prevent tooth decay.
Flouride does exactly the opposite. It rots teeth & bone to the extreme, & the US medical industry has coined a new disease for fluoride-eaten teeth (the name of which I have forgotten off hand), something like "fluoridosis."
Drinking "pure" water is NOT "more about taste or smell," it is a multimillion dollar business to GET pure, clean water.
Most people have no clue, including you I surmise, if the bottled water is pure or not, & since tap water STINKS, any water to the American public that does NOT stink, is "pure."
And bottled water plants (99%) simply filter out stinky chlorine from Municipal Tap Water, & merely suggest via advertisements & mountain stream pictures on the bottles, that the water comes from mountain streams, though they Never claim that it does. Bottled water is not pure. Tap water is not pure. Bottled water is tap water with the chlorine removed.
Tap water in America also comes with lead, mercury, & arsenic that comes in the same containers with the fluoride that is added to the water. Fluoride, mercury, lead, & arsenic are the waste-water Sludge by-product of the ore processing of mining companies--the by-product that used to be buried in "Toxic Waste" barrels, all across the US, & around which is still a monstrous scandal.
Now the barrels are re-labeled, & shipped to every city water plant in the US.
You have merely swallowed the mainstream media-hype campaign lying, along with all that fluoride & other toxic heavy metals from your tap.
Drinking demineralized water is actually very dangerous and pulls minerals from your body.
berThugh2 Good thing this is about Canada and not the US
Just a heads up, there is nothing wrong with Reverse Osmosis but you can buy an easy to do self installation kit (the type she had) for around $200-500, she paid $3500, which is part of the scam.
Where would you buy a DIY RO system in Canada? Would one be available for a counter top instead of just under a sink?
I'm not sure they're selling reverse osmosis systems but rather they use reverse osmosis to concentrate minerals to make the water look dirty in tests.
@@SoulDevoured not sure what you mean by that, but I've now ordered a water purification system called AquaTru from Home Depot which uses a reverse osmosis technology, which is the best for removing fluoride and many other toxins. www.aquatruwater.com
@@FeelgoodMusic88 Good for you.
The tests they're using to "prove" the tap water in people's homes is dirty are really just reverse osmosis which makes all the minerals collect apart from the water making it look like "sludge" as the elderly lady in the video said.
If I'm not mistaken simple filters in osmosis systems grab this "sludge" before it pumps out to your tap.
Nothing in the video is trying to say reverse osmosis systems are bad or a scam. Just that chemical process itself is being used as a way to trick people.
@@SoulDevoured OK, I now understand what you meant. Thanks.
These investigations are so entertaining I’m not going to sleep lmao.
This scam starts with a water test. Scientology scam starts with a personality test.
U know what I was thinking the same thing since watching the Watch the Water documentary.
I literally got an ad for a water purification system. THE IRONY 😂 😂 😂
Too much iron in this comment. Do you want a filter?
Well, to be fair, water filtration are real products, with real use cases. These companies are scamming people by convincing them they need it when they don't and selling them for way more than they are worth.
Recognize, however, that reverse osmosis has its uses in rural areas, where well water may be badly contaminated with organics and heavy minerals. Precipitating out the hard water removes the smell and makes the water much softer--less staining in your dishes, for example.
Also useful for people with marine aquaria.
This is 100% true, I live on wellwater in canada and i would never let my kids or family drink tap water, I'd specifically not drink water from my familys house's because they live on city water, It has a gross taste and I feel like I'm actually dehydrating myself drinking it, meanwhile after a bottle of spring water or some good old filtered well water I'd be completely satisfied
I'm and prevents kidney stones
Well water varies according to where you are. Some places have pretty nasty ground water. Others it's awesome.
Thats not totally accurate. Drilling a deeper well wont stop water from entering near the upper portion. Typically wells are drilled until you hit an adequate water supply, plus ~50 to allow for sediment to settle out. The steel casing only extends far enough to be firmly wedge into bedrock to limit surface water from entering, but it canttotally stop it.
The price these people fell for is mind boggling. These systems sell for $180-$500 at any hardware store, and they install in about an hour.
I feel like I have to defend the principle of reverse osmosis a little though, as in my situation its working brilliantly. Here in Calgary the water is particularly full of lime so our steam sauna boiler had constant breakdowns due to scale buildup. Since installing the reverse osmosis the mineral problems went away.
Wow going undercover to be hired as a sales rep...that's some dedication. Sounds fun. And that lady's "class"..........YIKES
(I said yikes before the video said yikes, but lol)
I drank tap water once and I died instantly #itwasthechemicals
Did you arise the 3rd day
SeanMc1ntosh I drank tap water once and wasn't impressed.
Yet you survived to tell about it...
SeanMc1ntosh
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100% of people who drank water end up dying.
Wait, the marketplace guy merely picked up the phone and called the Milton water Co. and took some person's word over a phone and didnt ask for proof of chlorine levels, ammonia, etc? What kind of science is this?
It's not.
Get it in writing.
Well maybe having the waterworks manager explain the test made should convince you...
It’s public record. They probably found it on the water company’s website. I know I can download the water quality report from my city’s website, and they publish it and mail it every year.
Why not just send some tap water to an independent lab and check, couple hundred dollars at most
I do not know of any treatment that uses ammonia. We use it to detect chlorine leaks.
@@Shontaku lol. Government is God. What they say is true
I love the smell of my pool, funny I never remember smelling that in the shower.
Okay I would like to point out what you are smelling is the hypochlorite breaking down proteins and making NCl3, that gives you the pool smell and the eye itch. Still, you would kinda smell like a pool after showering and stuff but only later, wouldn't notice it in the water instantly, only when it reacts with the skin. Also your toilet would smell like a pool as well from the urea doing the same reaction. Or more like a freshly bleached pub urinal. Either way, smells are complex and the salespeople are full of bs
What you smell in your pool is chloramines, which are what remains of chlorine treated organics. It means your pool is safe to swim in.
@@BarryE48 NCl3 is a tertier chloramine, we said the same
@@BarryE48 Thx. My tap water does smell like a pool. It isn't noticeable when it's running. If it's put in a container in the fridge and then opened later, the smell is strong.
oh but in some places it does
I'm in the industry and sell systems for a living. I am certified with the state as a water specialist and have gone through the training with the Water Quality Association. Seeing things like this are frustrating. While the salespeople in this situation are definitely leaning towards fear to sell, the municipal experts are also shortchanging the effects of chlorine and other dissinfectants on the body. Saying Chlorine isn't harmful because it's low levels is like saying it's ok to smoke a cigarette once a week. These are two extreme sides when really the reality is in the middle.
Ha,ha,ha,ha, find a decent way to make a living.
@@justice-jb5ldbro 100% makes 4 times your annual income
Not sure if you're going to see this, but right now I have a Britta filter. I recently read about bone chart filters because I've heard that Britta doesn't remove fluoride. My stomach gets upset if I take in fluoride. Do these kind of filters work? Or should I stay with Britta?
@@justice-jb5ld Enjoy those toxins from the water going into your brain. Did you know that fluoride lowers IQ? I did. I learned that from a doctor. He studies up on the stuff.
@@justice-jb5ld I sleep just fine at night. Probably do better than you there bud.
The saddest part is that the staff of that company are probably just as unaware of the scam and probably think they're doing their clients a favor
When they came to my door, we told them we didn't need water filtration because we drink our urine. Of course, I tell that to the door to door religions as well.
I honestly really hope this is true. If it is, you are the best Canadian ever.
I tell the door to door religions that I'm a Satanist and then close the door in their faces. I'm not, but to me religion is a personal thing, not something to be peddled like a vacuum. I remember the Fuller Brush men coming to the door.
Ok R Kelly
Can you make a fly?are you an atheist?😁😂😁
@@salimwheatgrass6711 I can't make a fly and neither can an imaginary being. Only evolution and natural selection can create a fly.
The irony is in this part of the world (Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia), we were also being scared into believing that our water is not safe enough because it is NOT clorinated enough and hence, is microbe-filled. We were sold the idea that we needed water purification devices that cost about $8,000 to $12,000. But, I built my own filtration system and it cost me $150.00...mostly rubber hoses and 2 glass tanks and high grade carcoal...and pebbles of various sizes.
Coway?
I operated reverse osmosis "water makers" on ships for 20 years and the manufacturer's instructions forbid running chlorinated water thru the membranes because the chlorine will dissolve the filtration properties of them. Reverse osmosis only removes dissolved solids----chlorine can only be removed by running the water thru an activated charcoal filter first as primary treatment.
Exactly right, KDF and carbon pre reverse osmosis.
Well RIP I watched this 3years after my parents installed a reverse osmosis system I live in Milton...
Lmao you gonna show them this video?
the funny thing about this video is it doesn't dispute the water company with evidence. the video doesn't prove reverse osmosis isn't better than tap. the fact is there are chemicals added to the water but the amount is "safe" according to that one guy in the video without any proof at all.
I learned from the comments that the system is really only $300 on Amazon. that's the real crime lol
did the water taste better? if so it was worth the purchase. 3k for an unlimited supply of bottle quality water is nice. If anything were to happen at least you would have some protection from lead.
Aaron Trew actually the taste of water comes from the essential minerals. water itself is tasteless.
now these ro system remove all that minerals. So you know how it will taste
wow there are water tests you can do yourself and if some water purification company is claiming your water is dirty tell them that you can test it yourself
KILLKING110 maybe electrolysis
"Chlorine breaks down into harmful..." uhh it's an element... You literally cannot break it down further 😂
There's clorine in the water and amonia in urine. Does that mean I'm making mustard gas every time I pee?
@Neil Deep pls take a chemistry class
@Neil Deep Chlorine in water is a disociated ion, already an atom just with an extra electron.
Also, the chlorine evaporates from the water if you let it sit
@@kellismith4329 Even with Ammonia attached ?
What I'd like to know is the chemical analysis of what minerals are in the water
Send it to a University lab!
Depends on your location, water sources, even your house utilities.
Minerals in water is healthy. Removing minerals or drinking too much distilled water may be unhealthy.
Al drinking whisky 2 bottles a week distilled water with alcohol so who says distilled water is bad
Vandievelen Vandievelen, I wasn't talking about whiskey.
Although, I have been trying to cut back on drinking and smoking since our President doesn't drink or smoke.
Ran across an interesting video by Tim Noakes this week that said too much water caused 12 deaths in athletes.
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Does it come with a pesky troll?
I hear Victoria is looking XD
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(Jk I already have a fridge
This happened to me down in the states. Sent letters that looked like they were from the city right after an ecological issue that affected the water. So everything looked legit till the bills came and the company we thought was affiliated with the city closed and renamed themselves and started operating again in a different city
Deceptive advertisement is wrong. However, there are many reasons to want to have water without minerals, for example, to avoid scale on boilers or hard minerals on bathrooms shower glass enclosures, drinking is probably not one. Not need to scare people to sell filters.
And yet they don’t show the results of either the chlorine or ammonia.
Funny that!
The city never seemed to answer the question of whether they put chlorine and ammonia in the water. The man from the show asked if they had mustard gas in the water, which was the wrong question.
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what about the apparent increase in "fluoride" this year in the water?
nearing concentration camp levels
it's to make your teeth healthy and strong, they're doing you a favor lol
I've had the same thing happen. A guy tried to sell me a $3500 system too! Fluoride in water needs to stop tho.
Fluorine is in toothpaste bro
Danky Skull
There is a reason it’s in there. Perhaps you should imvestigate what the consequences are, if it is removed.
Ask some scientists. Not a TH-camr or conspiracy site.
Covfefe dk yeah they reason is they need a place to get rid of the waste byproduct from aluminum manufacturing. If they dump it in the river they’re fined but it’s cool in our rap water.
@@fishyman9089 - That's a lie. Sorry you've been lied to.
@@seeqr9 it is good for your teeth
nice to know some people value the truth
nice try illuminate I just ordered mine today
gangatalishis whattt really??
i drank so electrolisys slilme in water for life i have not get anything
gangatalishis is this a joke? You also spelled illuminati wrong
No no no, he means glowy things
Reverse osmosis is the only way to take out flouride and other neurotoxins.
Illuminate..I'm getting Rob Dyke flashbacks lmao
I wish we had people like you guys here in the USA!
Good news, we do!
His name is Rob Wolchek
We don’t do real news in the US
Most local news stations have something just like this. My local NBC, WGAL, has a team just like this. It’s call 8 on Your Side. I don’t live in a large city at all, so just look around at your news stations.
We do, you just don't listen to them because you think you know better.
Reverse osmosis system are great. Have been using one for over 10 years. They are only $150 on ebay and fairly easy to install. I do add minerals to my drink water, if not the water will pull plastic.
You have to replace the filters and membrane when they get contaminated, they cost about the same amount
YES. Thank you. They really did reverse osmosis systems dirty here and I’m kinda ticked
how do you add the minerals
@@Novaruu chew one of your favorite flavored tums each day and enjoy the r.o. water it tastes great
@@kasapbandy1776 I agree. They really should have made the point that these systems being sold at highly superly freakishly high inflated prices, even during the time it aired. Though I found it laughable when the salesman used the approach of "would you bath your kids in this?" Even with the systems sold there, they'd still be bathed in the tap water. I doubt they were selling whole house ro units. If they were, I wonder at what price. 🤔
I still want my water filtered, but thank you for informing us of rip offs.
@Waves You must have terrible teeth.
I think they add fluoride because the mineral content of tap water is low, and fluoride is similar to drinking out of a clear lake that has natural minerals. You can mineralise rainwater by having a 3.5" layer of 1/2"-1" gravel mixed with clay and dirt all together, and covered with a thin layer of sand pressed into the top, then topped with a thin layer of aquarium colored gravel, add a bubbler to keep the water fresh and put in a clear 33 gallon sterilite container buttressed between the windowsill and furniture. The rainwater or RO water sitting in the water will be mineralised by the soil/rocks, but it helps to dilute that with straight rain water because there is some bacteria in that which can make you sick if you drink a lot of it without diluting it a bit, maybe 1 cup of that added to 2 cups of rainwater, and alternate drinking RO water or something during the day a bit, so you don't get sick. And exercise can keep water sickness from hitting you, as tapwater is void of any bacteria that can be harmful
@@e_i_e_i_bro drinking fluoride water doesn't help your teeth. Regular maintenance does. Fluoride in excessive amounts has been proven to be harmful to the body including cause harm to the pineal gland. Anyone that supports hravy fluoridation of the water because of "healthy teeth" doesn't have a grasp on either dental nor general health.
@@sionnachdensolas9787 No one supports "heavy fluoridation" of water. Every dental health organization promotes safe levels of fluoride to prevent tooth decay.
Fluoride doesn't prevent tooth decay? Decades of studies conclude otherwise. I guess you think all of these scientists and Healthcare professionals don't have a grasp on health.
@@e_i_e_i_bro no. Fluoride in water doesnt help tooth decay significantly more than just brushing and going to the dentist. Its not recommended to swallow fluoride toothpaste, so why would you encourage fluoridation of your entire water supply?
Many studies have equally shown that fluoridation of tap water doesnt have a significant effect on dental health. Maybe you should look into those studies as well.
Wtf? $1,000? You can get one for $200 off of Amazon.
We just had someone come to our house. My husband found this. We are very informed people and they did use fear with all the tests, but we were ready to sign. Thank you for this information.
Im glad I saw this vid before someone came to dp my "water test" I would have fallen for it for sure.
Seriously!
RO is not a scam. all growers use it for better plants. my hydrologic RO was only 300 $. my water is perfect now.
got the new micRO75...sic little unit
You add nothing to the RO water? You only give your plants straight RO water and they’re perfect? Doubt it.
As an environmental engineer who has worked on many water treatment plants, this video gave me chills. How can they so mislead people? I don't even know where to begin...
It's ignorance due to a lacking education. People don't even know what mustard gas is, and don't even know that water contains soluble minerals, for fuck's sake.
Having an educated and knowledgeable population is important.
frankly, it's "sceptics" in comments section that are giving me more fright than dishonest scammers.
a company came to my house like that and it’s so shocking how similar his script and tests are. i ended up telling him to eff off after quoting me for over 10k! he was also really creepy and kept asking all these personal questions about my dating life and my career, which i refused to tell him anything.
i ended up buying and installing one myself for $200 and now i can’t figure out if it’s actually a good thing, i keep hearing how it filters out the minerals so i’m scared.
I'm surprised there's nobody in my area doing this. We have terrible lime scale, which gets into everything. I have to use a Brita pitcher for anything that touches water (it works really well)
I just checked the price of similar systems: $120-200 at Home Depot
lol you can get the same kit at costco for 140$ ...im in Arizona USA ...we have high flouride and chlorine and very hard water so we do need it
it's a fish tank purifier
Doesn't matter, it does the same thing. Many R.O. systems are marketed as "Reef Aquarium" filter systems, but they are the same as any other R.O. system. R.O. is all the same. Just the number of filters varies and how much you wish to spend.
You don’t need t. Maybe you like the taste better. But you don’t need it.
Very hard water is fixed with a water softener, not a filtration system. There is also nothing wrong with hard water outside of its seemingly high calcium content which tbh isn't a bad thing for humans to consume. I don't believe for a second you have a high fluoride content in your water as it's only added to help increase the strength of your teeth and only a very small amount is needed. Chlorine, however, likely is high but also typically not as much of an issue as you would believe it to be. Reverse osmosis systems like this demineralize the water, purify it and that is a far more serious issue to your health. Consuming demineralized water regularly actually pulls needed minerals from your body and damages you. If you get a filtration system, make sure to add a water mineralizer to it as well.
there is nothing worse than somebody who takes advantage of nice trusting people. that poor woman is probably on a fixed income & now she is probably trying to balance everything back out now.
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After years of working in Saudi, i went back home. my wife use to hve deliver 2 to 3 5 gallon purified water in a blue jug.
and its expensive. so i bought a 2 stage filter from Ace hardware. never bought purified water again.
When you look at your filters since mine has a transluscent cylinder, indeed water coming put of your faucet has impurities. the white filters turns brown in 3 months. Water filters are good. but 3500 for a system is one expensive unit. i bought mine at 2k and thats in philippine pesos and it includes 2 free sediment stage 1 cartridges i bought a stage 3 carbon filter for the second stage wc takes out the oder and some other impurities.
Generally, you cn drink from the faucet. much better to have some kind of filter because water from the water utility main line these are not regularly cleaned, in fact once they lay the pipes under the ground thats for life.
you can buy ro filters for under $200, and build one for less... jeez
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I’ve been doing plumbing for years with my dad and a good reverse osmosis system costs around 400 dollars with installation not thousands of dollars. But this is in Arizona maybe it’s different in Canada?
no i got a 7 stage system for about 7-800.00 canadian. white filters go in and orange to brown filters come out after 6-8 months
Im from the Netherlands, and our cleaning stations for water dont add any chlorine or fluoride. We have one of the healtiest tap water in the world. I dont know why other countries add chlorine or fluoride, cuz we dont so other countries could do it to!
The more I listen to their intro, it eerily sounds more similar to the How It’s Made intro
lol I have a saltwater aquarium and bough a reverse osmosis water system for like $150 bucks. total scam.
My parents almost fell for this, they wanted to buy the filters after they "witnessed" the water test with their own eyes.
Thank God my brother was visiting them at the time. Convinced them it was a scam.
DON'T BE FOOLED by this Video! The test is real, the only SCAM was the price, thoes "minerals" in the tap water are TOXIC.
@@morebass6644 yep they are giving r/o systems a bad rap, they are very effective system but not fir that cost
@@morebass6644they cost 150$ not 3500$ they scam ppl with all their BS fear tactics
My house had the water purifier from costco, what u think? I thought costco more trustworthy. Now m not sure it is the same or what.
Without testing the city water, this program invalidates itself.
C C true
cities have computers in place, and more than one back up usually to make sure the water from dams is checked ALL the time. It has to be. Well in most western countries. There are parts of the world of course that I know nothing about. I do know how australia monitors it's water though. I have no qualms about drinking tap water anywhere unless advised it is not for drinking (like you find in some bores in the outback).
Christine Walsh .all good but..corruption still exhists ..Flint Michigan.. and numerous others that are ." covered up by corp.lawyers gag orders ...& not not in public media.. God bless, Canada
@@SuperReznative iknow where you are coming from......you just copped an aussie who had two years of lectures about fluoride in my training. I had to give a lecture on it.....so boring but the dam computer room i went to back in the 80's was impressive. I
Weechie the Flint ordeal is entirely different, they failed to introduce corrosion inhibitors after changing water source, and didn’t have enough money to remove the lead piping and upgrade the treatment facility. It was the political side of the ordeal that ruined everything. I assume they changed sources believing it to be cheaper (as most do) when it wasn’t. It’s extremely sad.
As people age their skepticism recedes, consequently senior citizens are easy pickings for con men...
ChopsHannigan thought it would be the opposite (the older the wiser) but apparently not in such cases
ChopsHannigan new discoveries and technological advancements are also very confusing for many older citizens.
I wouldn't say it's skepticism, I know plenty of "senior citizens" who are super skeptical about anything new. I even know an 80+ year old women, who doesn't believe antibiotics are safe to take. I will say most of them are very trusting of complete strangers.
That is not true with me. I'm in my seventies and my paranoia keeps on climbing. Poor choice of words, I should have said "heightened awareness" that better describes me. I have dodged more Nigerian princesses and Micro-soft Indian virus cleaners than you could imagine. I wonder which princess was the genuine article?
Several answers for you. No.1 None of your damn business, No.2 No I don't. No.3 My heightened awareness comes naturally or maybe it's from being on this planet with people like you. How can you use a TH-cam that reminds people of the pervert that occupied the White House?
he needs to hand out tinfoil hats before the sales pitch.
I get it that the scammers should be revealed, but a lot of the other messages aren't fully correct.
1: It is true that reverse osmosis gets rid of the majority of minerals. To get rid of Fluoride & Chlorine its a necessity.
2: A proper system puts back minerals after the filtering, by adding a specially made mineral tube. Japan made really good ones but were taken off the market after Nuclear problem.
3: The main problem wasn't the chlorine, it was the fact that copper pipes are corroded on the inside and produce copper salts of chlorine and fluoride. These then were soluble in water and their content was dramatically increased. World health authority recommended that copper salts shouldn't exceed 5 parts per million. Two places I worked on had 280 ppm and 480 ppm. Above the 5 ppm they recorded increased levels of schizophrenia. I did extensive repairs to a Multi level Motor Inn and noted the main copper line coming up from ground got pin holes in it, showing corrosion from the inside.
4: The system she bought should only be 400 to 800 not thousands.
5: I have had allergic reactions to Chlorine, if I smell the water from a tap it burns my nose.
6: To generalize and say tap water is OK, who are you talking about, OK for who. Some people get effected, they need to get rid of things effecting them.
That said, I do agree the scammers should be filtered out.
Id agree that filtered water is not bad at all(in my city theres been all sorts of water quality issues), however these sales practices for preying on the elderly and selling them overpriced filters has got to go.
We can get our minerals from supplements and healthy food. Drinking tap water and listening to malicious organizations such as the WHO about tap water is toxic.
@@datvik7187 I think there's some truth to what he's saying. It could be that his tap water is of high quality, but I wouldn't suggest drinking it after it goes through all kinds of old pipes. Further it has chlorine among things
Totally agree, the government dumps chemicals into the water. And then dumps our sewage into rivers.
Well said, if saw the dirt and rust out of my pre filter, amazing, Just bought a new PUR from Costco 229 Canadian I believe, lovely water!
Another thing people don’t know is the diff between tap and filters water and cooking, can make a big difference.
ROFL $3500 for a reverse osmosis system HAHAHHAHHAHA
Price ridiculous
I paid $100 for mine for my saltwater aquarium.
Reverse osmosis, also known as settling.
Hang on, that email is dated 2010! This story was uploaded 7 years after it was aired!
Hidden cameras, infiltration, hard questions! Damn they go all out! 👏 Bravo!
I came across this show. It’s one of the BEST!!!!!!! All shows. I’ve watched 25. Shows already
For people who are familiar with reverse osmosis:
Don't you need to dechlorinate the water first before running it through the membrane so that the actual membrane itself doesn't corrode ?
Where did you get this information? Chlorine destroys the membrane that's why carbon filter is used to remove chlorine and ro membranes doesn't rust they get block by minerals over the period of time
Why did you not let us hear the call to the city?....
ok, so do the test again when the filtration system is installed....
It's not legal for them to broadcast phone conversations in some cases, that's why. Seen it on another episode of Marketplace, where they explained it. They can do it some cases, but only some.
this is so old a sales technique its not even from this decade.. good thing they caught up to it.
sorry i meant not even from the past decade lol
Is there any follow up on these videos? Would like to know what happens after the invwstigation.
23rd dec 2010???
I saw that too. Have they been working on this story for 7 years??!!
It's a reupload.
Georgi oo
Video had a copyright date of 2011 at the end, so it broadcasted on '11...
Did you see that "notebook computer" the guy was playing a video on in the government office? THAT'S AN ANTIQUE!
R/O water makes excellent coffee, try it!
@Skip White What about the re-mineralization stage? Do they really do the trick?
I've just installed one of those 6 stage R/O system.
@@henryrollins9177
Minalization is snake oil, they last 2 weeks, another youtube channel tested them, just forget about mineralization, you get minerals from from your food, the amount in water is minimal.
@@oscaremoralesp28 Oh,..ok then..!
Thanks for the feedback..!
Spring water for 10 cents a bottle works for me
@@macalister8881 Nice, nature is very happy with all those plastic bottles in the landfills...
i just bought a similar unit on amazon and installed it myself for $200. its a simple low output system but it meets my needs. never let anyone sell you anything you know what you need simply say to the salesman ill take your advice and make up my mind at a later time, thank you.
Yep I LOVE my 5 stage RO system I got from Ebay for $120.
I wonder if potable (bottled) water would react in the same way to tape water with those drops.