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Here’s the reason they didn’t execute Ace immediately (I got it off Reddit): They were trying to showcase their power - it was a public spectacle for propaganda purposes to try to end the Great Age of Pirates. If they simply killed Ace, there's nothing to stop Whitebeard from simply going on a rampage and wrecking the Marines while they're scattered. Concentrating their forces, setting up an ambush, and having Ace as a hostage was their best hope to take him down and avoid an extremely devastating war against a foe who was said to have the power to destroy the world, and who might well have simply destroyed Marineford outright without offering battle in the first place.
yeah. Always thought that was kind of obvious - but over the years ive seen people ask that alot. I mean lets be clear... his power allows him to just attack with tsunamis from potentially half way around the world. Thats how bonkers sea-quakes are in the real world as well. Of course the Marines had to "lure" him close and also use Ace as a "shield" of sorts so that WB doesnt just flatten Marineford without even showing up.
And Whitebeard still has a legitimate chance of completing his objective and escaping. Just really showcases the power of Whitebeard. 1 crew can literally stand up to the world lol.
also i was reading someone said something like: the exact time of the execution was told all over the word, they would look weak if they just killed him an hour early. Also thats the reason why whitebeard was there earlier, he knew that the marines couldnt afford killing him mid-battle, since all the world was watching.
38:38 fun fact. when an audience asked Oda if other members were ability users, what would it be. Oda said Usopp would have the poke poke nomi (Pocket Pocket Fruit) (infinite pockets in one's body)
"Why does he laugh like that?" Well, funny story. Whitebeard's laugh is written as _Gurarara_ - has been since his introduction. The Japanese name for his devil fruit is _Gura Gura_ no Mi. Did Oda plan that fruit so far ahead as to hide it in his laugh? Possible! The madman has done foreshadowing with longer gaps.
hes not the only one, perona laughs like "horohorohoro" and her fruit is Horo Horo no Mi theres a theory about Blackbeard and his laugh about how he can get more than 1 devil fruit powers you can check it out
38:35 wow you called it! In the recent interview, Oda said that if Usopp had a devil fruit, it would be this guy's (the name's Blamenco, Whitebeard's 6th division commander)
It is an anime-only scene I believe, but the shot of Blackbeard seeing the Devil Fruit is such a great character moment for him in my mind. He and his crew talk about 'fate' all of the time, and the way I interpret his character is that he would have been perfectly fine - perhaps even happy - to remain as a normal member of Whitebeard's crew, but had convinced himself that if fate should bring him that power, he would take it and change his life's course - hence his initial horror at seeing it, followed by the grin as he resolves himself. As I said though, it was anime-only, so that may be far from the correct reading of the character. For now, it is the one I like most though.
I'm convinced that fate/luck is a real phenomenon in the One Piece world. The way Blackbeard talks about Fate, the way Ivan mentioned Luffy's luck, the way Zoro always bets on his own luck. It's not just real, but a trait of special/willful people. Not full predetermination or destiny, but something akin to the ability to make what you want to happen happen just by wanting it hard enough. It's why in this world recklessness is an admirable quality rather than something that gets you killed.
@@combogalis I always held a quiet and heavily unlikely theory that there is some force that grants people superhuman resilience - perhaps a fourth kind of Haki, Colour of Life or something. Something that explains how people in One Piece survive things they really should not, how Luffy can recover far faster than anyone expects, how the Awakened Zoans in Impel Down would wake up fit as a fiddle no matter how hard they were put down. I suppose willpower-induced plot armour (a crude way of putting your excellent point I know, but it is what sprung to mind) could also fill that role.
When they first mention Devil Fruit's back in the East Blue, the two powers used as examples of what they could do were "the power do breathe fire" and "the power to create tsunamis", both mentioned by Captain Morgan aka Helmeppo's dad.
In case you didn't know, Akainu (lava admiral) was the one who ordered the destruction of the civilian ship in Robin's backstory. He was a vice admiral back then.
The reason Whitebeard said, I said you to go was Whitebeard don't want Ace to take all the responsibility. WB did want Ace to not go, but he went anyway so as being a good father who doesn't want the world and his son to feel ashamed to not follow WB command, WB simply rejected that Ace didn't listen but said WB himself sent him(lying to protect him, It's like when your wife is proven wrong on something and she still wants you to say no she wasn't :P ). So no one blames Ace
@@LuffyToons nop, It's like in the orange town Buggy was introduced, Mayor started crying, and Nami said oh was mayor crying but Luffy rejected the idea said no I didn't see him cry and Zoro attested to it that no mayor was not crying, just like here where WB & his right-hand man attested to a lie. That's Oda's way of showing respect the character's flaw
You're right but it's not merely about shame. As Usopp explains to Robin on the sea train after she left the ship, a crew member needs the captain's permission to leave the ship. Because he left the ship w/o permission and against the wishes of his capt., technically his fate is no longer their responsibility. So, as you said, WB takes it back with this lie.
YEP! Whitebeard was letting Ace know that he has his back so even though Ace disobeyed him he didnt want to throw Ace under the bus and say I told you so
@@AllramYT those civilians aint make it out of marineford before the war started lol. They're just off the land of the island. The only way to get out too is through that gate which they never went through
@@spidavenom4 The marines can go through the Calm belt, with their boats. So unless someone like magma-man said something about a plan to use them (which I don't remember him doing) then the civilians are not there anymore.
I guess they just have not seen enough disaster movies to know what it means when water starts receding in a beach specially after an "earth/sea quake"... XD
Btw, Ace isn't necessarily the second strongest of the Whitebeard pirates, he is just the head of the 2nd division. While him being the second strongest could be something to argue, him being the head of that division doesn't mean anything in particular.
@Ambander That is your opinion. Show me where Oda actually says "Ace is the second strongest of the WB pirates" Ace filled an open spot, that happened to be the 2nd division commander. That doesn't mean he is NOT the second strongest, I'm just saying Oda has not said that he was.
@Ambander Yes…Marco is that strong. MANGA SPOILERS There’s a reason that Marco in the wano arc was able to take on both King and Queen at the same time. There’s a reason why Marco was able to single handedly prevent the big mom pirates from entering Wano. There’s a reason why Marco was able to fight on equal grounds with the admirals at marineford. Ace is definitely top 5, you can make a case for top 3, but there’s no way he’s stronger than Marco. Nothing Ace has done will top Marco being able to fight both King and Queen at the same time.
Actually Ace is very stubborn and doesn't let things go. He easily holds a grudge and wants to do things by himself. He overestimates his power, Even if Whitebeard forbade him to go, Ace was going to go anyways
I wouldn't call that an easy grudge, one of his brothers got killed, it's like Sabo all over again, except this time, he could do something about it. He didn't overestimate himself, as no one knew what Blackbeard could do, not even Shanks who knew Blackbeard was powerful had any idea about Blackbeard's new df power.
@@MarikitKaNa what about when he went to fight kaido with like 5 people? He was stubborn and overestimated himself, admit it or not that's a fact and the reason he died.
The reason Whitebeard admitted that he sent Ace to hunt Blackbeard was to protect Ace from blaming himself. Pretty sure we all have been there, beating ourselves up, feeling bad, for not listening to our parents. It won't help when our parents blamed us too. The truth is, most parents (including me if I have a kid) would say to our kids "I told you so. But you didn't listen. Now look what happened. You stubborn fool child of mine'' This is what makes Whitebeard is great father figure in One Piece. Kudos to Oda for this amazing writing.
I feel like Ace was the first to care about Oars health. Everyone just assumes, he is ok, because of his height. So that little gesture must have meant a lot for Oars.
@@YaBoyRockLee yo brother you say when Jimbei and Ace star fighting that Ace body him, you knew Ace respect him he would lost that easy or atleast i think he wouldn't respect him that much to call him Boss Jimbei
9:29 actually ace never wanted to be king of pirates, this scene was animated incorectly, in the novels ace says he wants to fight the emperors the navy and world goverment and take them down he says theres no point in him chasing one piece because someone else already achieved that dream (roger), ace wanted to surpasss roger in hes own way. shanks was able to figure out that ace was rogers son after he left.
The citizens that live at Marineford in the town were evacuated to Sabaody before the war started. Everyone behind is there to fight or is crucial to operation of the base.
50:52 She needs to do her role man. It's really hard but her title of Warlord will be revoked, and she and Amazon Lily will be attacked which she is trying to prevent as a ruler. So the only thing she can do is to attack both sides (pirates and marines)
He couldnt have. He was a Vice Admiral at the time. The order came from Spandine with the authority of (then) admiral Sengoku. What Akainu did was ALSO order the evacuation ship to be destroyed. And while that is certainly horrible, I do get his point. He wasnt eager to murder people or anything, but since the Marines were forced to do such a drastic action in the first place, they might as well go all the way so that the chance of having to do it AGAIN on a another island would go down in case some scholars escaped.
When somebody gave you something it automatically has a sentimental value. Heck when my friends give a keychain when they're on vacation i value and keep it, and I still have it even now after 5 years. But luffy would have made great friends with little oars jr
whitebeard's laugh, gurararararara, is a reference to his devil fruit power, the gura-gura no mi. he's one of the few characters who laugh in such a way. the only one i know of outside of him is perona. also fun fact: the name "whitebeard" is both a right and wrong translation of his name. his name in japanese is "shirohige", with "shiro" meaning white while "hige" is a catch all term for facial hair. hence why he is called whitebeard but he has a mustache. when asked about this, oda said that "whitebeard" is the proper way to say it.
Also akainus name is sakazuki. The one who killed EVERYONE in Ohara when he was only a vice admiral. Aokiji said "that fool" which was a reference to akainu
AYKSHULLY, when it comes to the ranked swords, Zoro has two of the 21 Great Grade that are one step below the 12 Supreme Grade (Wado Ichimonji he inherited from Kuina and Shusui he got from Ryuma). And the one sword that got rusted during Enies Lobby, Yubashiri, was another step below, one of the 50 Fine Grade. His cursed Sandai Kitetsu is another notch below that, a Grade sword. But while we're talking about it, there's another Supreme Grade blade you've been introduced to, and it's Whitebeard's naginata (or Sword On A Stick), Murakumogiri. Which wasn't revealed until years after Marineford, but since Oda did it in bonus content, I feel like it's not a spoiler to share.
This is why Blackbeard is such and interesting character and Villain. Because he had a plan the whole time. And he had the patience enough to just wait and wait for the exact right moment to make his moves. He laid incredible low, not climbing up the ranks in the crew, but always learning about the New World, while under one of the strongest people alive in the world. Even before he got his DF, he was already good enough to wound Shanks, someone on Whitebeards level. WB understood immediately how dangerous of person Teach actually was. Someone that can wait and plan for years and years to make there move, is a true mastermind. And he's a lot like Luffy. Believes in dreams, believes anything is possible, etc. And he had knowledge and understanding of DF's that most don't have. Which immediately makes his backstory very interesting.
Ya boy misunderstanding a lot of things in this episode. Gotta try better at not taking things so literal. "I knew you wouldnt let me go after your head so easily" didnt mean Marcos head being a weak spot. They were talking about skipping the pawns and going for the "king" meaning Whitebeard(chess analogy obviously). So when Barcelino said "head" he was referring to whitebeard.
Min 33:52 let me explain it to you. Zoan type is NOT more rare than Logia type fruits BUT among Zoan type there are some variations like Prehistorical Zoan (you know X-Drake the supernova who fought vs Kizaru and one Pacifista at Sabaody and transformed into a T-Rex) which is more rare than normal Zoans and the most rare fruit type is Mythical Zoans (Marco the Phoenix)
For those who like the japanese language here is a bit of trivia on grammar... The "your?" luffy asked ivan about was because in japanese although there is no singular or plural form of most words... there is a way to group nouns... If i say luffy TACHI it owuld be like saying Luffy & Co... When you use that form to talk it should be obvious what you mean for it to make sense... Ivankov asked: Anata tachi no chichi... meaning something something your and Ace's father... so Luffy was confused... what do you mean by my and ace's father? Why would you assume we have the same father?
The Yoru, Murakumogiri (Whitebeard's weapon) and Shodai Kitetsu (i think the bald member Gorosei owns this) are the only known swords so far in the 12 Supreme Grade Sword category while Zoro's Wado Ichimoji (the sword with white sheath) and Shusui (the one he got after he defeated Ryuma) are in the 21 Great Grade Sword category.
I forgot that Ace said Wano Kingdom in episode 464 in year 2010. Its been more than 10 years already. The foreshadowing and storytelling of Oda is very amazing. Wano Arc will be the one of the most important arc ever.
Wow that's why I'm thinking about whose voice is that whenever I heard Ichigo voice when I started watching Bleach of course I watched one piece first tho
To answer your question the WB and Roger pirates don’t believe in fighting or stealing from civilians, so yes, Sengoku did use that against him to shorten his damage radius.
Guys, they evacuated the civilians living in navy headquarters because of the fight that will happen, so there are no civilians in navy headquarters right now.
This reminds of of a video game when you aggro neutral yet powerful NPCs, and now you have to deal with Boa, and Donflimingo absolutely destroying your day.
28:50 This is how Sword “Grades” work. -- Tier List -- Tier 1 - 12 Greatest Swords in the World (Supreme) - Ex: Mihawk’s Sword Kokutoru Yoru, Whitebeards Bisento Tier 2 - 21 Greatest Swords (Great) - Ex: Two of Zoro’s current swords, The one from Kushina (Wade Ichimonji) and the one from Ryuuma (Shusui) Tier 3 - 50 Greatest Swords (Skillful) - Ex: Yubashiri the sword Zoro lost at Enies Lobby to rust Tier 4 - ??? Greatest Swords (Grade) - Ex: Sandai Kitetsu the blade Zoro got in East Blue that was cursed So Zoro’s not doing bad at all with the blades he has. None of them are the 12 “Supreme” greatest swords in the world, but he has 2 of the 21 “Great” greatest swords in the world the 2nd best class of sword you can get.
Fun fact: Akainu was the one who ordered to destroy the evacuation ship in robin home (ohara) when he was a vice admiral in bustercall You can check out by yourself even aokiji called him an idiot in that episode
With Blackbeard I always thought it was a case of 'He is exactly who has always been, on the inside. He just doesn't hide either anymore.' Though of course he still sort of is hiding it because he's still lying about almost regretting it, can't tell if he's lying to himself as well as to everyone else though. So it could more be a case of 'he's still lying, only people don't believe him this time'.
hehe and so the final branch of Zoan fruits is revealed: first we had basic animals like humans and cats with different species. than we had Ancient types thanks to X-Drake and his Dinosaur fruit. and now: Mythical, which is possibly the rarest and most crazy fruits of them all!
Ace already wanted to go find Blackbeard. Whitebeard didn't have to use reverse psychology to trick him into doing it. He just didn't want to use force. That line was him, as a father, taking responsibility for his foolish son's actions and also refusing to let Ace blame himself and feel guilty.
I think Whitebeard was thinking about stuff after saying to Ace not to go. Or maybe he did want to see what Ace could do even though, as he said, he had a bad feeling about it. WB knew that something was off, since he Blackbeard kill his crew-mate on the WB Pirates, WB knew that Teach knew his fate after doing such thing and that there was no way he could fight the Father Pirate. WB was probably trying to figure out the thoughts of Blackbeard at the time, he knew that Blackbeard knew how strong he was even sick of old age. But yeah, he keep his silence while Ace was leaving to hunt down Blackbeard.
Mihawk and Zoro's swords are in different categories, Mihawk's sword is in the category of 12 supreme grade swords, while Zoro's is in the category of 21 great grade swords
Sometimes it feels like they just have not understood yet that each important character (mainly the bosses) have their own specific laughter pattern/style... They keep asking why does ____ laugh like that? In manga you can tell who is laughing sometimes even if you don't see the image because the character has not been revealed yet... or stuff like that because we know speech and laugh styles...
You’re taking our commentary too serious if you think we don’t know that about the laughs. The laughs are just so interesting that we keep being bewildering. We just expressing that laughs are soooo good we keep sounding surprised at the concept
@@YaBoyRockLee I was just kiding man... don't worry about it... the last part was serious thoug just so people who read the comment know... but yes when i read it back it didn't sound like i was kidding sorry about that... i normally add a smiley face or something when i say stuff like that to show it...
I feel that Whitebeard was actulaly somewhat responsible for Ace taking off. He teaches his crew his code, and what an unforgiveable crime is on his ship. Those are the rules Ace adhered to and kept his loyalty towards. So by trying to back off/make an exception for blackbeard Whitebeard broke his own code (and now ace's code).
notice that mihawk only used a nameless attack, he was just swinging his sword. Although I wouldn’t what would happen if he used a named attack there. named>nameless attack in anime
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25:00 there are no civilians here
Can u make one piece playlist?
@@shirothegamer7574 wait then why is he ice
Here’s the reason they didn’t execute Ace immediately (I got it off Reddit):
They were trying to showcase their power - it was a public spectacle for propaganda purposes to try to end the Great Age of Pirates.
If they simply killed Ace, there's nothing to stop Whitebeard from simply going on a rampage and wrecking the Marines while they're scattered. Concentrating their forces, setting up an ambush, and having Ace as a hostage was their best hope to take him down and avoid an extremely devastating war against a foe who was said to have the power to destroy the world, and who might well have simply destroyed Marineford outright without offering battle in the first place.
yeah. Always thought that was kind of obvious - but over the years ive seen people ask that alot.
I mean lets be clear... his power allows him to just attack with tsunamis from potentially half way around the world. Thats how bonkers sea-quakes are in the real world as well. Of course the Marines had to "lure" him close and also use Ace as a "shield" of sorts so that WB doesnt just flatten Marineford without even showing up.
And Whitebeard still has a legitimate chance of completing his objective and escaping. Just really showcases the power of Whitebeard. 1 crew can literally stand up to the world lol.
If they killed Ace in one go, they wouldn’t have been able to kill a lot of them new world pirates either.
also i was reading someone said something like: the exact time of the execution was told all over the word, they would look weak if they just killed him an hour early. Also thats the reason why whitebeard was there earlier, he knew that the marines couldnt afford killing him mid-battle, since all the world was watching.
That's pretty good explanation, totally makes sense.
I'm that one guy that was constantly refreshing the page waiting for this episode 😂
I was about to do that too, but I didn’t this time
😂😂😂
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@@YaBoyRockLee all the civilians left the base, and yeah i am the same type of guy.
@@hamzaadib9927 thanks sooooo much
38:38 fun fact.
when an audience asked Oda if other members were ability users, what would it be. Oda said Usopp would have the poke poke nomi (Pocket Pocket Fruit) (infinite pockets in one's body)
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Lmao some Doraemon ability
Yea that would fit him perfectly
Not that it doesn't already look like Usopp has this kind of fruit right? That 9-tonne hammer always comes in clutch XD
Pretty sure we see this fruit with one of the new world allies whitebeard brings
We finally made it to Marineford boys!!!! let’s goo🐐💪🏼💪🏼
"Why does he laugh like that?"
Well, funny story. Whitebeard's laugh is written as _Gurarara_ - has been since his introduction. The Japanese name for his devil fruit is _Gura Gura_ no Mi.
Did Oda plan that fruit so far ahead as to hide it in his laugh? Possible! The madman has done foreshadowing with longer gaps.
one piece story is average tho and a lot got sacrifised for the world building. So I dont think so
hes not the only one, perona laughs like "horohorohoro" and her fruit is Horo Horo no Mi
theres a theory about Blackbeard and his laugh about how he can get more than 1 devil fruit powers you can check it out
38:35 wow you called it! In the recent interview, Oda said that if Usopp had a devil fruit, it would be this guy's (the name's Blamenco, Whitebeard's 6th division commander)
It is an anime-only scene I believe, but the shot of Blackbeard seeing the Devil Fruit is such a great character moment for him in my mind. He and his crew talk about 'fate' all of the time, and the way I interpret his character is that he would have been perfectly fine - perhaps even happy - to remain as a normal member of Whitebeard's crew, but had convinced himself that if fate should bring him that power, he would take it and change his life's course - hence his initial horror at seeing it, followed by the grin as he resolves himself.
As I said though, it was anime-only, so that may be far from the correct reading of the character. For now, it is the one I like most though.
I'm convinced that fate/luck is a real phenomenon in the One Piece world. The way Blackbeard talks about Fate, the way Ivan mentioned Luffy's luck, the way Zoro always bets on his own luck. It's not just real, but a trait of special/willful people. Not full predetermination or destiny, but something akin to the ability to make what you want to happen happen just by wanting it hard enough. It's why in this world recklessness is an admirable quality rather than something that gets you killed.
@@combogalis I always held a quiet and heavily unlikely theory that there is some force that grants people superhuman resilience - perhaps a fourth kind of Haki, Colour of Life or something. Something that explains how people in One Piece survive things they really should not, how Luffy can recover far faster than anyone expects, how the Awakened Zoans in Impel Down would wake up fit as a fiddle no matter how hard they were put down. I suppose willpower-induced plot armour (a crude way of putting your excellent point I know, but it is what sprung to mind) could also fill that role.
What if thst was BB different personality.
When they first mention Devil Fruit's back in the East Blue, the two powers used as examples of what they could do were "the power do breathe fire" and "the power to create tsunamis", both mentioned by Captain Morgan aka Helmeppo's dad.
Ace and oyaji
Remember: if you hear Gurarararara, *don't bother fighting back*
"If you hear Gurararara bet on Whitebeard"
Unless ur roger lol
@@maelpsng it can go either way
If it's 1v1 always bet on Gurararara
@@johnnylight0 then what if its gurararara vs kaido
In case you didn't know, Akainu (lava admiral) was the one who ordered the destruction of the civilian ship in Robin's backstory. He was a vice admiral back then.
And Sengoku, the now Fleet Admiral and Garp's buddy, was the one who gave Spandine the authority for the buster call.
Wait... I somehow JUST figured out that Ace was the Ace of Spades in his original crew! XD
Dayum that makes sense
@@Agent-mw1bk y’all slow as hell
@@noxccty6200 Can you put a spoiler in case they check out the replies for this comment?
@@spidavenom4 lol it's been months since i watch one piece. I couldn't remember
@@spidavenom4 I think I knew, forgot, and the realization hit again. Because I got deja vu.
38:33 funny that you mention Usopp cuz Oda recently said if Usopp had a Devil Fruit it would be this one
Lee: He's not gonna pick up the ice...
Me: ...berg
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The reason Whitebeard said, I said you to go was Whitebeard don't want Ace to take all the responsibility. WB did want Ace to not go, but he went anyway so as being a good father who doesn't want the world and his son to feel ashamed to not follow WB command, WB simply rejected that Ace didn't listen but said WB himself sent him(lying to protect him, It's like when your wife is proven wrong on something and she still wants you to say no she wasn't :P ). So no one blames Ace
I thought the reason he said "I told him to go" (paraphrasing) was because that was their no.1 rule on the ship
@@LuffyToons nop, It's like in the orange town Buggy was introduced, Mayor started crying, and Nami said oh was mayor crying but Luffy rejected the idea said no I didn't see him cry and Zoro attested to it that no mayor was not crying, just like here where WB & his right-hand man attested to a lie. That's Oda's way of showing respect the character's flaw
You're right but it's not merely about shame. As Usopp explains to Robin on the sea train after she left the ship, a crew member needs the captain's permission to leave the ship. Because he left the ship w/o permission and against the wishes of his capt., technically his fate is no longer their responsibility. So, as you said, WB takes it back with this lie.
YEP! Whitebeard was letting Ace know that he has his back so even though Ace disobeyed him he didnt want to throw Ace under the bus and say I told you so
Oyaji being a good oyaji
They removed the civilians in a previous episode :D
They still kept em around the island to shrink the battlefield so no attacks could come from behind them
I'm sure that there are some scenes that show the marines moving civilians onto boats to get them away from the island before the war.
@@AllramYT those civilians aint make it out of marineford before the war started lol. They're just off the land of the island. The only way to get out too is through that gate which they never went through
@@spidavenom4 The marines can go through the Calm belt, with their boats. So unless someone like magma-man said something about a plan to use them (which I don't remember him doing) then the civilians are not there anymore.
You laugh at Guy who forget take off the lens cap when he take a picture of Sanji, and now basically you do the similar thing
Oda: Hope you like this shiny new likable character before I take him away from you.
37:42 I’m sure he left an impression on you guys before, since Akainu was the one who killed all the kids and family on the evacuation ship at Ohara.
I guess they just have not seen enough disaster movies to know what it means when water starts receding in a beach specially after an "earth/sea quake"... XD
The best father in anime
Facts honestly, he wants a family over anything else, that’s some wholesome shit.
toe-to-toe with byakuya of dr. stone
In a genre full of bad fathers, it's refreshing to watch a good one xD
Except for his 1 son lol
OH MY GOD FINALLY THE BEST ARC OF ALL TIME !
2nd best behind wano
@@moka1915 Too bad Wano is animated like shite resembling Dragon Ball Super
@@moka1915 wano will never surpass marineford
@@chrollo5648 lol
@@chrollo5648 already has
Btw, Ace isn't necessarily the second strongest of the Whitebeard pirates, he is just the head of the 2nd division. While him being the second strongest could be something to argue, him being the head of that division doesn't mean anything in particular.
@Ambander That is your opinion. Show me where Oda actually says "Ace is the second strongest of the WB pirates" Ace filled an open spot, that happened to be the 2nd division commander.
That doesn't mean he is NOT the second strongest, I'm just saying Oda has not said that he was.
@Ambander Yes…Marco is that strong.
MANGA SPOILERS
There’s a reason that Marco in the wano arc was able to take on both King and Queen at the same time. There’s a reason why Marco was able to single handedly prevent the big mom pirates from entering Wano. There’s a reason why Marco was able to fight on equal grounds with the admirals at marineford. Ace is definitely top 5, you can make a case for top 3, but there’s no way he’s stronger than Marco. Nothing Ace has done will top Marco being able to fight both King and Queen at the same time.
I would say
Marco
Vista
Jozu and than ace
Actually Ace is very stubborn and doesn't let things go. He easily holds a grudge and wants to do things by himself. He overestimates his power, Even if Whitebeard forbade him to go, Ace was going to go anyways
The Mera-Mera no Mi fit such a fiery demeanor
Wrath is one of the deadly sins after all...
He was a powerful one
I wouldn't call that an easy grudge, one of his brothers got killed, it's like Sabo all over again, except this time, he could do something about it. He didn't overestimate himself, as no one knew what Blackbeard could do, not even Shanks who knew Blackbeard was powerful had any idea about Blackbeard's new df power.
@@MarikitKaNa what about when he went to fight kaido with like 5 people? He was stubborn and overestimated himself, admit it or not that's a fact and the reason he died.
I just realized wano was mentioned in Oars' backstory. Ace learned the hat weaving in Wano as he told Oars. Man Oda you freaking genius.
Yuuuup. I’m watching KNOWING WANO is coming up. So i pay extra attention when they say it
I’m pretty sure they mentioned Wano before (like Thriller bark).
This is one of my favorite arcs🔥
Antagonist: *Does literally anything at all* YBRL: "Cheap, that's cheap"
Facts
The reason Whitebeard admitted that he sent Ace to hunt Blackbeard was to protect Ace from blaming himself. Pretty sure we all have been there, beating ourselves up, feeling bad, for not listening to our parents. It won't help when our parents blamed us too.
The truth is, most parents (including me if I have a kid) would say to our kids "I told you so. But you didn't listen. Now look what happened. You stubborn fool child of mine''
This is what makes Whitebeard is great father figure in One Piece. Kudos to Oda for this amazing writing.
6:26 I like how you find his laugh funny while your laugh is even funnier😂
@38:20 when you said that’s how you do it ussop. Fun fact oda said that’d be a devil fruit he’d want ussop to have if he had to pick one for him
Love how you titled this reaction like a Smash Bros. Announcer
I feel like Ace was the first to care about Oars health. Everyone just assumes, he is ok, because of his height. So that little gesture must have meant a lot for Oars.
Just for the record, Zoro's katanas are in the category below Mihawk sword. But Whitebeard weapon is in the same category as Mihawk's.
Hey, Lee, they don't actually have civilizans there at the moment, the scene with the civilians earlier is an evacuation.
Lee's laughing style is "Heehahahehehoho"
Ace mentions the Wano kingdom all the way from this flashback in Marineford, Oda you genius writer.
Fax boi
The dissrespect of calling Jimbei a body of Ace both of this man atr GOAT they can't get body just like that
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@@YaBoyRockLee yo brother you say when Jimbei and Ace star fighting that Ace body him, you knew Ace respect him he would lost that easy or atleast i think he wouldn't respect him that much to call him Boss Jimbei
@@mauriciomoreno997 when?
@@YaBoyRockLee 10:06
Oh ok. It’s not disrespect lol. Just thought Ace handled that 😅
The story with Oars and his hat always makes me tear up, so simple but so good and wholesome
whitebeards laugh "gurararara" is based on his devil fruit the gura gura no mi "tremor tremor fruit"
4kids would've named it the shake shake fruit
9:29 actually ace never wanted to be king of pirates, this scene was animated incorectly, in the novels ace says he wants to fight the emperors the navy and world goverment and take them down he says theres no point in him chasing one piece because someone else already achieved that dream (roger), ace wanted to surpasss roger in hes own way. shanks was able to figure out that ace was rogers son after he left.
The citizens that live at Marineford in the town were evacuated to Sabaody before the war started. Everyone behind is there to fight or is crucial to operation of the base.
25:55 You're forgetting, there's no civilians in Marineford currently, you saw them getting evacuated earlier before 😂
50:52 She needs to do her role man. It's really hard but her title of Warlord will be revoked, and she and Amazon Lily will be attacked which she is trying to prevent as a ruler. So the only thing she can do is to attack both sides (pirates and marines)
Great reaction as always. Just remember Akainu gave the order for the buster call on Ohara Robins home.
He couldnt have. He was a Vice Admiral at the time. The order came from Spandine with the authority of (then) admiral Sengoku. What Akainu did was ALSO order the evacuation ship to be destroyed. And while that is certainly horrible, I do get his point. He wasnt eager to murder people or anything, but since the Marines were forced to do such a drastic action in the first place, they might as well go all the way so that the chance of having to do it AGAIN on a another island would go down in case some scholars escaped.
Oda is too good with the emotions, he's like : "Let's introduce a new character, make you love him, and kill him, all in one épisode".
😭😭😭
When somebody gave you something it automatically has a sentimental value. Heck when my friends give a keychain when they're on vacation i value and keep it, and I still have it even now after 5 years. But luffy would have made great friends with little oars jr
whitebeard's laugh, gurararararara, is a reference to his devil fruit power, the gura-gura no mi. he's one of the few characters who laugh in such a way. the only one i know of outside of him is perona.
also fun fact: the name "whitebeard" is both a right and wrong translation of his name. his name in japanese is "shirohige", with "shiro" meaning white while "hige" is a catch all term for facial hair. hence why he is called whitebeard but he has a mustache. when asked about this, oda said that "whitebeard" is the proper way to say it.
Also akainus name is sakazuki. The one who killed EVERYONE in Ohara when he was only a vice admiral. Aokiji said "that fool" which was a reference to akainu
Wait let me grab my chocolate chip icecream..this is gonna be a fun ride
AYKSHULLY, when it comes to the ranked swords, Zoro has two of the 21 Great Grade that are one step below the 12 Supreme Grade (Wado Ichimonji he inherited from Kuina and Shusui he got from Ryuma). And the one sword that got rusted during Enies Lobby, Yubashiri, was another step below, one of the 50 Fine Grade. His cursed Sandai Kitetsu is another notch below that, a Grade sword.
But while we're talking about it, there's another Supreme Grade blade you've been introduced to, and it's Whitebeard's naginata (or Sword On A Stick), Murakumogiri. Which wasn't revealed until years after Marineford, but since Oda did it in bonus content, I feel like it's not a spoiler to share.
Don't forget if Impel Down was easy to break, it's because all the marine prepare itself to fight against whitebeard.
They weren’t preparing for that yet.
@@mattmaillet1186 My bad, I was thinking of Impel Down. I correct that.
Whitebeard's laugh goes like GURArarararara because in Japanese his Devil Fruit is called the GURA GURA No Mi (Tremor Tremor Fruit).
Nobody :
GODA: make someone feel pain for a pen or paper .
37:19 " He's also a defender. He's playing a defensive role ".
Me, who already watched OP : " Sure , we can call it that "
34:37 ita not a weak spot hi means whitebeard when he said the (head)
This is why Blackbeard is such and interesting character and Villain.
Because he had a plan the whole time. And he had the patience enough to just wait and wait for the exact right moment to make his moves.
He laid incredible low, not climbing up the ranks in the crew, but always learning about the New World, while under one of the strongest people alive in the world.
Even before he got his DF, he was already good enough to wound Shanks, someone on Whitebeards level.
WB understood immediately how dangerous of person Teach actually was. Someone that can wait and plan for years and years to make there move, is a true mastermind.
And he's a lot like Luffy. Believes in dreams, believes anything is possible, etc.
And he had knowledge and understanding of DF's that most don't have. Which immediately makes his backstory very interesting.
Ya boy misunderstanding a lot of things in this episode. Gotta try better at not taking things so literal. "I knew you wouldnt let me go after your head so easily" didnt mean Marcos head being a weak spot. They were talking about skipping the pawns and going for the "king" meaning Whitebeard(chess analogy obviously). So when Barcelino said "head" he was referring to whitebeard.
you mean borsalino?
Yup
the reson whiteberad was hooked up to all those tube and stuff it id because he is sick
Facts
am in south africa its 20:00 when this video went up but still watchin it coz i love yall reactions
one "peace out"
There are No civilians on the island, they were already evacuated. did you forgot them evacuating people on ships few episodes ago?
bro had to grab the boa figure😭
If it hasn't occurred to you yet the theme of the arc is about family and the lengths one will go to save family. lol.
Min 33:52 let me explain it to you. Zoan type is NOT more rare than Logia type fruits BUT among Zoan type there are some variations like Prehistorical Zoan (you know X-Drake the supernova who fought vs Kizaru and one Pacifista at Sabaody and transformed into a T-Rex) which is more rare than normal Zoans and the most rare fruit type is Mythical Zoans (Marco the Phoenix)
One of the Best War Arc in all of Anime is started!!!
-One of- *The best*
good luck with this arc guys!
For those who like the japanese language here is a bit of trivia on grammar...
The "your?" luffy asked ivan about was because in japanese although there is no singular or plural form of most words... there is a way to group nouns... If i say luffy TACHI it owuld be like saying Luffy & Co... When you use that form to talk it should be obvious what you mean for it to make sense...
Ivankov asked: Anata tachi no chichi... meaning something something your and Ace's father... so Luffy was confused... what do you mean by my and ace's father? Why would you assume we have the same father?
The Yoru, Murakumogiri (Whitebeard's weapon) and Shodai Kitetsu (i think the bald member Gorosei owns this) are the only known swords so far in the 12 Supreme Grade Sword category while Zoro's Wado Ichimoji (the sword with white sheath) and Shusui (the one he got after he defeated Ryuma) are in the 21 Great Grade Sword category.
That big move Kuma uses is called Ursa Shock
Yo Rock Lee with a southern accent 😂 cheers from Texas
Yessssss sir. The South is still alive !!!!
man... Oars Jr.'s flashback hits differently now...
To enjoy more the episodes I advise to stop trying to predict the future and just have fun with the present.
Having fun making predictions 🤷🏽♂️
I forgot that Ace said Wano Kingdom in episode 464 in year 2010. Its been more than 10 years already. The foreshadowing and storytelling of Oda is very amazing. Wano Arc will be the one of the most important arc ever.
Technically they mention Wano a few other times way before these episodes (in thriller bark for example)
The sound effect shirohige devil fruit is so cool...love it
I know it’s a long way away, but wait until you find out how long it was before they had their previous 2nd Division commander
Yeah
It is so weird hearing ichigo's voice coming out of marco XD
Man after years of watching bleach and one piece I have never noticed that before.
@@bigpoppa3999 never noticed that
Oh damn! I didn’t even notice!
His way of speaking is very characteristic of marco and considering how much we see him talk amidst all the chaos it is understandable not noticing...
Wow that's why I'm thinking about whose voice is that whenever I heard Ichigo voice when I started watching Bleach of course I watched one piece first tho
17:30 I'm not sure if Ace would've obeyed an order not to go - not even from Whitebeard.
I mean, maybe he would have, but I'm not sure.
To answer your question the WB and Roger pirates don’t believe in fighting or stealing from civilians, so yes, Sengoku did use that against him to shorten his damage radius.
Guys, they evacuated the civilians living in navy headquarters because of the fight that will happen, so there are no civilians in navy headquarters right now.
This reminds of of a video game when you aggro neutral yet powerful NPCs, and now you have to deal with Boa, and Donflimingo absolutely destroying your day.
FINALLY I'M HERE! GURARARA! COWER IN FEAR BC I'M SHIROHIGE!
Right now it's... GULALALALA!!! 😂
@@A_R_I_S_E GURARARARARA!
@@edwardnewgate9834 In Japanese L and R sounds the same or something that why both are right.
28:50 This is how Sword “Grades” work.
-- Tier List --
Tier 1 - 12 Greatest Swords in the World (Supreme) - Ex: Mihawk’s Sword Kokutoru Yoru, Whitebeards Bisento
Tier 2 - 21 Greatest Swords (Great) - Ex: Two of Zoro’s current swords, The one from Kushina (Wade Ichimonji) and the one from Ryuuma (Shusui)
Tier 3 - 50 Greatest Swords (Skillful) - Ex: Yubashiri the sword Zoro lost at Enies Lobby to rust
Tier 4 - ??? Greatest Swords (Grade) - Ex: Sandai Kitetsu the blade Zoro got in East Blue that was cursed
So Zoro’s not doing bad at all with the blades he has. None of them are the 12 “Supreme” greatest swords in the world, but he has 2 of the 21 “Great” greatest swords in the world the 2nd best class of sword you can get.
"This aint fun" yeah its called war
Fun fact: Akainu was the one who ordered to destroy the evacuation ship in robin home (ohara) when he was a vice admiral in bustercall
You can check out by yourself even aokiji called him an idiot in that episode
With Blackbeard I always thought it was a case of 'He is exactly who has always been, on the inside. He just doesn't hide either anymore.' Though of course he still sort of is hiding it because he's still lying about almost regretting it, can't tell if he's lying to himself as well as to everyone else though. So it could more be a case of 'he's still lying, only people don't believe him this time'.
hehe and so the final branch of Zoan fruits is revealed:
first we had basic animals like humans and cats with different species.
than we had Ancient types thanks to X-Drake and his Dinosaur fruit.
and now: Mythical, which is possibly the rarest and most crazy fruits of them all!
Ace already wanted to go find Blackbeard. Whitebeard didn't have to use reverse psychology to trick him into doing it. He just didn't want to use force. That line was him, as a father, taking responsibility for his foolish son's actions and also refusing to let Ace blame himself and feel guilty.
I think Whitebeard was thinking about stuff after saying to Ace not to go. Or maybe he did want to see what Ace could do even though, as he said, he had a bad feeling about it. WB knew that something was off, since he Blackbeard kill his crew-mate on the WB Pirates, WB knew that Teach knew his fate after doing such thing and that there was no way he could fight the Father Pirate. WB was probably trying to figure out the thoughts of Blackbeard at the time, he knew that Blackbeard knew how strong he was even sick of old age.
But yeah, he keep his silence while Ace was leaving to hunt down Blackbeard.
That accent in the beginning, impressive good sir
Don't expect Whitebeard to move fast because he's old and sickly
THATS RIGHT LETS GOOO! MARINEFORD STARTING NOW!
Yo man that fuckin country accent came outta nowhere.
these episodes are like 10 years old, not 4. easy to forget just how long this series is.
Doflamingo is too cool to hate, I swear😅😅😅😂
He’s got that drip!
Ikr he has this devilish charisma that makes him weirdly likable but he's still a bastard nonetheless.
@@yanndardanne5599 a lovable bastard😂😂
Mihawk and Zoro's swords are in different categories, Mihawk's sword is in the category of 12 supreme grade swords, while Zoro's is in the category of 21 great grade swords
Sometimes it feels like they just have not understood yet that each important character (mainly the bosses) have their own specific laughter pattern/style... They keep asking why does ____ laugh like that? In manga you can tell who is laughing sometimes even if you don't see the image because the character has not been revealed yet... or stuff like that because we know speech and laugh styles...
You’re taking our commentary too serious if you think we don’t know that about the laughs. The laughs are just so interesting that we keep being bewildering. We just expressing that laughs are soooo good we keep sounding surprised at the concept
@@YaBoyRockLee I was just kiding man... don't worry about it... the last part was serious thoug just so people who read the comment know... but yes when i read it back it didn't sound like i was kidding sorry about that... i normally add a smiley face or something when i say stuff like that to show it...
@@YaBoyRockLee We cool? I actually felt bad that you thought i was dissing you...
There is no civilians in Marinford they were remove and put in a save place
The giants are based off vikings and thus share a similar ethos. Oda was a fan apparently.
I feel that Whitebeard was actulaly somewhat responsible for Ace taking off. He teaches his crew his code, and what an unforgiveable crime is on his ship. Those are the rules Ace adhered to and kept his loyalty towards. So by trying to back off/make an exception for blackbeard Whitebeard broke his own code (and now ace's code).
Whitebeard took responsibility for Ace going as any parent takes responsibility for their child’s decision.
ya this is a huge fan favorite arc it's amazing honestly
notice that mihawk only used a nameless attack, he was just swinging his sword. Although I wouldn’t what would happen if he used a named attack there. named>nameless attack in anime