Buddy Rich being TOTALLY genuine and honest about jazz and about the music business!! I might understand how some people perceive him as being a snob or self-centered, but he's calling things by their name. He isn't being "politically correct", he's being VERY honest. No bull, no nonsense! Honest & real! Bravo to you Buddy Rich!
He wasn't saying rock isn't music, he said that the music was secondary, and how the mainstream was focusing on the clothes, the theatrics of rock music, rather than the actual music.
Buddy was dead less than 2yrs later. Seemed to young to die, but then again this guy lived life to its fullest right up to the end: Still the greatest drummer ever in when his late 60s, playing the best gigs, forceful, well-spoken, clever. One of a kind.
I respect Buddy a lot, but I couldn't imagine the 80's without some of the great music that came out during that decade, long live 80's music as well as jazz music, it's great we can find it all on youtube
When you're the best, you can be a little arrogant. Personally, I don't look at Rich as "arrogant" as much as supremely confident of his abilities. From what I have read, he simply demanded the best out of himself and anyone lucky enough to be on his bandstand every night.
I find some of the comments here quite strange. People who NEVER MET Buddy, never knew him personally, saying things like "Buddy was this or that, Buddy wasn't this or that, Buddy said this, Buddy did that". WHAT? How can you have such an opinion about someone you did not personally know? Watching a few videos on TouTube makes you an expert on someone? You make assumptions about someone who lived to age 69. You watch a few videos and you know about 69 years of a person's life? Such children.
Mark i did know him -and how very privelidged i was . I seen him over 150 times live and had great times with him , coffees , lunches and pure magical times . Take no notice of people who say this and that , i bet they wouldnt have said any of their comments to Buddys face ....period .
Buddy was basically saying that MTV was the culprit,not the genre of the music. MTV is not about the music,but about the production values alluding to the promotion of it. Buddy's band had done many covers of rock bands (Beatles,Doors)songs. His comment was that if record companies pushed jazz the same way,it might have a wider audience. Unfortunately MTV has long since given up playing music videos any more and instead is pushing "realty" based programming.
Big fan of Buddy Rich. Loved his music and his schtick onstage and TV. Saw him in person on the old NAVY PIER in Chicago. And that IS NOT O.J.Simpson on this video clip! Just looked at the entire video clip. The man in the blue sport jacket is OJ Simpson. Red sweater is Bubba. In the Facebook post the frame used was of Bubba Smith not OJ. After viewing the video clip I see OJ on the chair.
Correct. Buddy had a very myopic view of music. I run into people like him all the time here in NYC who believe the only true music form is jazz or big band. He was a close minded individual who viewed anything other than what HE does as crap. He was THE best drummer of the 20th century and demanded not only the best of himself but those around him. Commendable, but the way he demanded it was rude and disrespectful.
@Ashhunn thats because jazz is one of the most musically demanding genres there is, and what he says about rock is true n a lot of cases. dont get me wrog i love rock and metal but i only like the bands that actually posses musical prowess, and wont even sneeze in the direction of any group who was more focused on their image than music, which is generally what mtv played. it started with motley crew ad the likes and has just devolved to the point where true music is a rarity
Just SO MUCH to think about here. Imagine doing a gig in Kabul where your audience was on HORSES with RIFLES draped over their shoulders ? Scary YES !! Security, what security ? Payment ? Where to next ? Let's go to Cambodia, that shoud be interesting guys.
PLEASE know your Buddy Rich history before you comment!! He was a number 1 ALL his life. He was committed to the drums and music ALL his life. He spoke his mind ALL his life. He gave the audience 110% ALL his life. Buddy dug The Beatles, Chicago, Blood Sweat & Tears, Tower of Power and loved the drumming of Danny Seraphine, Bobby Colomby, Carl Palmer and Steve Gadd. Read Mel Thorme´s bio on Buddy "Traps the Drum Wonder" so you can have some background for your comments.
I hear you , I love jazz and a play some jazz but it's one genre among many equally valid genres. I have also ran into many close minded jazz guys in NYC . They think unless a tune is technically interesting with great solos it's not "real music". They really miss the point entirely.
Brrdikid....Why don't you ask some of his former players before making such a big statement about him being all the bad things you called him. He was eccentric....not really an asshole....yelled at players that most of the time deserved it.....his players said this....not me.
You have to understand. Jazz is much more complex and takes more to play. If you can play a 4/4 beat with snare on 3 and bass on 1 than you can play rock. Jazz was losing popularity to rock, so of course he was against rock.
When OJ wasn't into Near Decapitation of a Wife and All Out Stab-Jab-Slice-Slaughter of a Waiter...probably....but no?....hmm...But then there's BUDDY!....a Two Year Old Drummer!
@DMBass17 murder is kinda bad, then getting off the hook because someone had to open their mouth and be racist and have the whole thing devlared a mistrial is even worse.
**Makes racist statement about how OJ was found not guilty, but, because he's black, I personally assume he WAS guilty** Oh wait this is a Buddy Rich video.
Buddy was definitely an elitist jazz snob, an extremely talented one nonetheless, but the reality is that jazz does not reach youth like rock and other genres, it still doesn't to this day, regardless his talent will be remembered and respected for years
maybe so, but humbleness is a great quality which Buddy certainly didn't have, he was a genius no doubt, and his drumming will live on for generations, but latin drumming, for example, is also very sophisticated drumming requiring a lot of limb independence and technique, thomas lang, gavin harrison, and vinnie colaiuta are just a few musicians who have very sophisticated drumming styles, Buddy couldn't respect or apprectiate other forms of music
SXI96 I don't think Buddy couldn't respect other forms of music. If you listen to his interviews it is very clear. What he didn't respect is music which had no value. It is very well known (he said it in many interviews) that in his life he didn't listen to big band jazz but he preferred very simple music, guitar music, folk music sometimes. A sophisticated musician such as he was, perfectly Knew which music was valuable and what was not. And last you have to consider that he was struggling in a very difficult period for Jazz, he had to promote Jazz as the highest form of music (which it is) in a time when Jazz was very underestimate so he had to speak very clearly about it. And in the end he was really a GENIUS as you said, the very good and talented musicians you are talking about they are NOT in Buddy's category. Buddy was a true genius, he was unique and will ever be, such as Bird, Mozart, those people.
+lanesblitz I'm thankful for movies like Whiplash that brought jazz back into the mainstream eye, it was wonderful to see a movie ending inspired by Buddy's drum solo
Buddy Rich being TOTALLY genuine and honest about jazz and about the music business!! I might understand how some people perceive him as being a snob or self-centered, but he's calling things by their name. He isn't being "politically correct", he's being VERY honest. No bull, no nonsense! Honest & real! Bravo to you Buddy Rich!
You're right Buddy, Jazz will never leave us - especailly now with youtube. It's great to be able to watch so many of your great performances.
Buddy was legendary as a drummer...but I also really love his interviews!
Buddy had a massive talent and as a drummer myself I have massive respect for him
He wasn't saying rock isn't music, he said that the music was secondary, and how the mainstream was focusing on the clothes, the theatrics of rock music, rather than the actual music.
Buddy was dead less than 2yrs later. Seemed to young to die, but then again this guy lived life to its fullest right up to the end: Still the greatest drummer ever in when his late 60s, playing the best gigs, forceful, well-spoken, clever. One of a kind.
I respect Buddy a lot, but I couldn't imagine the 80's without some of the great music that came out during that decade, long live 80's music as well as jazz music, it's great we can find it all on youtube
When you're the best, you can be a little arrogant. Personally, I don't look at Rich as "arrogant" as much as supremely confident of his abilities. From what I have read, he simply demanded the best out of himself and anyone lucky enough to be on his bandstand every night.
Well said conversation from a true musician. A well-respected virtuoso talent.
Very cool video post! I love the legacy of Buddy!
Thanks, KRO222!!!!
Saw him there several times myself. A lot of the greats played there.
Buddy's comments on music are more relevant today than they were back then.
I find some of the comments here quite strange.
People who NEVER MET Buddy, never knew him personally, saying things like "Buddy was this or that, Buddy wasn't this or that, Buddy said this, Buddy did that".
WHAT? How can you have such an opinion about someone you did not personally know?
Watching a few videos on TouTube makes you an expert on someone?
You make assumptions about someone who lived to age 69. You watch a few videos and you know about 69 years of a person's life?
Such children.
Buddy and Gene Krupa, were magic to watch.
None better..
Mark i did know him -and how very privelidged i was . I seen him over 150 times live and had great times with him , coffees , lunches and pure magical times .
Take no notice of people who say this and that , i bet they wouldnt have said any of their comments to Buddys face ....period .
Kids in Chicago should be required to watch Kup just to re-learn the Chicago accent.
BUDDY RULED PERIOD....MY GOD HE WAS SUPERB!!
OJ had to leave to sharpen his knife.
Buddy was basically saying that MTV was the culprit,not the genre of the music.
MTV is not about the music,but about the production values alluding to the promotion of it.
Buddy's band had done many covers of rock bands (Beatles,Doors)songs.
His comment was that if record companies pushed jazz the same way,it might have a wider audience.
Unfortunately MTV has long since given up playing music videos any more and instead is pushing "realty" based programming.
ur absolutely right!!!
OJ's favorite artist is Slash..
Big fan of Buddy Rich. Loved his music and his schtick onstage and TV. Saw him in person on the old NAVY PIER in Chicago. And that IS NOT O.J.Simpson on this video clip! Just looked at the entire video clip. The man in the blue sport jacket is OJ Simpson. Red sweater is Bubba. In the Facebook post the frame used was of Bubba Smith not OJ. After viewing the video clip I see OJ on the chair.
I have the whole show on tape and I can assure you that it IS O.J. Simpson.
i thought OJ was walking right at the start until I realised this was edited down .... wonder where he was going ?
If Buddy didnt inspire you as a drummer than theirs something wrong
I wonder what Buddy would say about rap...
buddy was actually right. back then the music had become secondary to the video. accept for a few acts it was a horrible era in music.
Correct. Buddy had a very myopic view of music. I run into people like him all the time here in NYC who believe the only true music form is jazz or big band. He was a close minded individual who viewed anything other than what HE does as crap.
He was THE best drummer of the 20th century and demanded not only the best of himself but those around him. Commendable, but the way he demanded it was rude and disrespectful.
RIP buddy rich
@Ashhunn thats because jazz is one of the most musically demanding genres there is, and what he says about rock is true n a lot of cases. dont get me wrog i love rock and metal but i only like the bands that actually posses musical prowess, and wont even sneeze in the direction of any group who was more focused on their image than music, which is generally what mtv played. it started with motley crew ad the likes and has just devolved to the point where true music is a rarity
Just SO MUCH to think about here. Imagine doing a gig in Kabul where your audience was on HORSES with RIFLES draped over their shoulders ? Scary YES !! Security, what security ? Payment ? Where to next ? Let's go to Cambodia, that shoud be interesting guys.
PLEASE know your Buddy Rich history before you comment!! He was a number 1 ALL his life. He was committed to the drums and music ALL his life. He spoke his mind ALL his life. He gave the audience 110% ALL his life. Buddy dug The Beatles, Chicago, Blood Sweat & Tears, Tower of Power and loved the drumming of Danny Seraphine, Bobby Colomby, Carl Palmer and Steve Gadd. Read Mel Thorme´s bio on Buddy "Traps the Drum Wonder" so you can have some background for your comments.
give our best to Nicole!!
Was this before or after the 9/11 call?
I hear you , I love jazz and a play some jazz but it's one genre among many equally valid genres. I have also ran into many close minded jazz guys in NYC . They think unless a tune is technically interesting with great solos it's not "real music". They really miss the point entirely.
Doesn't Rich look a little like Sinatra at the same age?
That's Mel Brooks, isn't it?
Buddy was one hell of a drummer, a god. No one I know can match him, but god damn, he sure was a bit arrogant wasn't he?
00:58 - Well that comment didn't age well...
Oh, he gave his best to Nicole alright... LOL
Brrdikid....Why don't you ask some of his former players before making such a big statement about him being all the bad things you called him. He was eccentric....not really an asshole....yelled at players that most of the time deserved it.....his players said this....not me.
No Idea.
You have to understand. Jazz is much more complex and takes more to play. If you can play a 4/4 beat with snare on 3 and bass on 1 than you can play rock. Jazz was losing popularity to rock, so of course he was against rock.
When OJ wasn't into Near Decapitation of a Wife and All Out Stab-Jab-Slice-Slaughter of a Waiter...probably....but no?....hmm...But then there's BUDDY!....a Two Year Old Drummer!
LOL
He doesn't remember his name because to Buddy he wasn't that important to him. To Buddy, nobody matters more on the stage than HIM.
@PsuedoNam No Your Definition Of Arrogance Is Telling It The Way It Is . .
@DMBass17 murder is kinda bad, then getting off the hook because someone had to open their mouth and be racist and have the whole thing devlared a mistrial is even worse.
OJ was allright? hes just terribly miss understude poor fella
did OJ see a white woman walk by?
lol
He is a great drummer but looks like Gilligan
The worlds greatest drummer is subjective. There is Gene Krupa and Louie Bellson. I think Krupa was the best ever.
**Makes racist statement about how OJ was found not guilty, but, because he's black, I personally assume he WAS guilty**
Oh wait this is a Buddy Rich video.
Rock is not music? I'm very disappointed discover that one of my idols was so close minded.
Buddy was definitely an elitist jazz snob, an extremely talented one nonetheless, but the reality is that jazz does not reach youth like rock and other genres, it still doesn't to this day, regardless his talent will be remembered and respected for years
That's because jazz is not promoted whatsoever in the mainstream media these days.
SXI96 this is because jazz is a very sophisticated music and general young people will never be that sharp to get it. only few of them will.
maybe so, but humbleness is a great quality which Buddy certainly didn't have, he was a genius no doubt, and his drumming will live on for generations, but latin drumming, for example, is also very sophisticated drumming requiring a lot of limb independence and technique, thomas lang, gavin harrison, and vinnie colaiuta are just a few musicians who have very sophisticated drumming styles, Buddy couldn't respect or apprectiate other forms of music
SXI96 I don't think Buddy couldn't respect other forms of music. If you listen to his interviews it is very clear. What he didn't respect is music which had no value. It is very well known (he said it in many interviews) that in his life he didn't listen to big band jazz but he preferred very simple music, guitar music, folk music sometimes. A sophisticated musician such as he was, perfectly Knew which music was valuable and what was not. And last you have to consider that he was struggling in a very difficult period for Jazz, he had to promote Jazz as the highest form of music (which it is) in a time when Jazz was very underestimate so he had to speak very clearly about it. And in the end he was really a GENIUS as you said, the very good and talented musicians you are talking about they are NOT in Buddy's category. Buddy was a true genius, he was unique and will ever be, such as Bird, Mozart, those people.
+lanesblitz I'm thankful for movies like Whiplash that brought jazz back into the mainstream eye, it was wonderful to see a movie ending inspired by Buddy's drum solo
Buddy rich was an amazing drummer but a horrible person, watch the bus tapes