Never again will I take for granted the products available in our stores. Watching the ant-like people next to the huge containers and massive crane fills me with awe and trepidation. This is a ballet with dangerous ramifications for any wrong step. Thank you to those who are willing to learn this dance.
People entering critical comments should pause and think of the huge risks involved. The workers must get those heavy containers untangled and out of the way without triggering a collapse. Caution and constant re- evaluation of their next move is essential.
That's because the jokers making the comments are losers, just hoping that somehow they will get the attention they think they deserve - having no basis for their 'authority' other than the last doordash orders they delivered today.
Yeah, like someone said in the chat of another TH-cam channel following the cleanup operations, it's the world's biggest game of Janga... with life or death consequences.
I sped up the video 2X and it still looks like a snail's pace. Yep, this will take a long, long time. Port Authority should've demanded the construction of concrete "dolphins" to protect the pylons. P.S. I wonder what would've happened if the ship had struck the power line tower pylon.
@@thomasbjarnelof2143 I just saw that they're removing containers that are interfering with bridge removal which sounds like they'll only clear a minimum of the front section.
@@ottdog1952 Port authority can order anything they want, but they still have to procure the millions needed. But it would seem like a bargain today, right?
@@susanwahl6322 I was thinking the same thing but using dominos.....one wrong move and they all fall in the water....lol trying to get the damaged ones that's the trick.
Here's a thought. If the bow is aground and they remove enough containers it may start to float which means it will go up and down with the tide making the bridge removal even more tricky.
People on here don't understand how much more time consuming it is to offload those containers this way, which is much harder than if the ship was at dock being unloaded by the gantry cranes designed for that purpose. So people on here criticizing all the work being done that do not meet their unrealistic expectations really need to chill out
Most of the comments are not taking the fact there are people there working trying to clean this mess up. And some of the comments are not taking their lives into consideration at all. They need room to work on the bridge laying on the ship, so remove some containers to give them that room. But as you remove anything, the weight on the front of the boat gets lighter, the bow comes up. When it comes off the river bottom, the ship may move. Then what happens to the bridge laying on the ship and the damaged containers that are leaning ready to fall over. Are they going to fall and kill someone else? I am sure everyone working on that want to go home at the end of their shift.
Weeks 533 is a 500-short-ton (454 t) capacity Clyde Iron Works model 52 barge-mounted crane which is the largest revolving floating crane on the East Coast
With the number of container ship wrecks, it would seem to make sense to build some automatic spreaders like the dock container cranes use. Might avoid workers on top of the stacks.
The weight of the bridge caused the ship to run aground. So first remove parts of the bridge plus a large number of containers. The ship can then be refloated and towed to port.
@@davidmackey74they are not missing it's still inside the containers. Also all the stuff on the ship is outgoing the shop already dropped everything off at the port and reloaded so all this going to another country.
Crane ratings are just a guideline. Those weight limits drop dramatically the farther up, and farther away from the crane base, you go. 500 tons drops a good 80-90% at maximum extension. And there's no way that crane is right alongside the boat.
Removing the containers form the Dali will make it lighter and thus unstable, it could slip into the main channel. Meanwhile, there seems to be little going on to clear the channel. The bridge components can only be cleared by shaped charges, these structures are under stress and unstable. To cut them apart manually is suicide. Who is mucking up opening a major supply line?
Most people have no concept of what is involved in that cleanup, the weights and volumes involved. As for the picture quality, the camera is a couple miles away. That should give you a little perspective of the size of the job. That job is an engage brain before making any move of anything kind of job if you don't want to kill more people in the process.
So as they unload all of these containers, how do they handle the damaged ones, the ones that have their contents exposed. So does this cargo have to be reloaded into another container?
There is 18,000 containers on that ship people don't understand the unsafe Factor I'm doing this kind of work just sit back and watch and keep your mouth shut and let the professionals do their job
Reports only have the front two compartments flooded. So - remove the bridge, remove containers at the bow only - especially HAZMAT ones - equal to the buoyancy lost. Nothing like all of them Wait for a spring tide - attach tugs to the stern, ship's (massive) engine astern (if it can be used - cooling water may be an issue). Off she'll float. I'll bet the containers are off long before the bridge is cut away! (One every 10 mins is 144 a day - 1440 in ten - and that may be enough. They WILL get quicker at it - always happens)
First, I would like to express my sorrows and condolences to the families who lost their loved ones due to the accident. Hi guys, by reading all your comments, there is NOT a single comment or remark about the workers on the bridge who lost their love ones on the bridge, you guys should be ashamed of yourself. These remarks are sent from Alberta Canada.
Over ten minutes to remove a single container, and hundreds have to be removed, and the process cannot be rushed. The workers scrambling around the pile of unstable containers on the Dali are performeing incredibly dangerous and necessary work. I hope their pay scale reflects those two facts.
It's pretty easy to figure out based on the camera angles. It appears to be in the area of Riviera Beach. The camera is probably on one of the private docks. I think I know which one, but I'll not post it here. It is certainly not on Fort Carroll.
J'espere que dans ces containers il n'y a que des marchandises travail de longue haleine pour enlevé tous ces containers les uns apres les autres courage a ceux qui font ce travail
Wow lot of comments on here that are just out their that really don’t understand the complexity it the situation it kind of like a house of cards between hazardous containers,bridge laying over boat, tied coming in and out, and once you move a peace of debris it can effect the rest so everything will take time to get it move safely off and away from said boat plus you want to do it so you don’t cause a sever ecological disaster
I’m no engineer but am I wrong in thinking just get the bridge debris off the bow and tow it back to port ? Am I missing something? This seems like the longest hardest way ?
I think they want to remove the ones that are not still connected because they are not stable also they said that the ones with hazardous materials are on top of the ones on the bow and they do not want to risk dropping any of them in the water
Ever play Jenga? This is the colossal real life version. Maybe the containers are tangled up with the bridge debris and have to be moved first? Maybe the damaged and/or unsecured containers need to be moved before the try and re-float the ship so there isn't an avalanche of containers tumbling off the ship. I'm sure the engineers and salvage crew have planned this *_very carefully_*
Only one negative comment from me, the music if you can call it that. It detractsfrom an excellent video and before someone makes the remark I know I can turn it off but then you miss the communication.
Extrapolating from this brief video, it appears they could unload on-the-order of 100 containers per day. Although the ship’s capacity is nearly 10k TEUs, or nearly 5k 40 foot containers, I’m guessing that only about 1/5th of those need to be removed. So maybe 1.5 weeks. This type of crane is required for the job for all manner of good reasons. But it clearly is much slower than if they were moored at a dock with the normal, port side container cranes.
Since your the expert how many containers do they load in a day under normal conditions let us know is that union workers and they don't have a bridge over there heads
Whats happening is twice a day the tides acting like a up and down on bridge thus sawing the ship in half need to got a move on 😮 18,000 containers 15 mins to take of one , =125 days 😮
They have ballast tank build into the ship and can pump water to offset the weight of the removed containers if necessary . It is all a slow and dangerous job and they work with a lot off unknown factors
How to completely spoil what should be a very informative video. The crappy accompanying background 'music' and crackly communications persuaded me to dump this vid after 4 minutes.
Is this crane operator getting paid by the hour because at that rate, it’s gonna take him the rest of his life to get that the next two containers off pretty sorry
That was a pretty stupid statement because if it wasn't for the union workers that know how to run the f****** cranes you're just a couch potato with a big mouth you can't run that crane you're just a couch potato
If you know anything about a Crain's Capacity it goes down as the radius increases. 500 ton crane Boomed all the up 500 tone Boomed down just a few tones . Try lifting a pail of water and hold it straight out of your body.
Never again will I take for granted the products available in our stores. Watching the ant-like people next to the huge containers and massive crane fills me with awe and trepidation. This is a ballet with dangerous ramifications for any wrong step. Thank you to those who are willing to learn this dance.
This whole bridge collapse is showing me how incompetent our government is this should’ve been gone already.
What!? Are you serious?
@@susanwahl6322 no he's stupid not serious
People entering critical comments should pause and think of the huge risks involved. The workers must get those heavy containers untangled and out of the way without triggering a collapse. Caution and constant re- evaluation of their next move is essential.
That's because the jokers making the comments are losers, just hoping that somehow they will get the attention they think they deserve - having no basis for their 'authority' other than the last doordash orders they delivered today.
Yeah, like someone said in the chat of another TH-cam channel following the cleanup operations, it's the world's biggest game of Janga... with life or death consequences.
Depending on how much they're unloading that is going to take half of freaking forever. Thanks for sharing.
I sped up the video 2X and it still looks like a snail's pace. Yep, this will take a long, long time. Port Authority should've demanded the construction of concrete "dolphins" to protect the pylons. P.S. I wonder what would've happened if the ship had struck the power line tower pylon.
@@ottdog1952 They wanted to but deemed it "too expensive". Now see where we are at?
4700 containers á 5 minutes makes about 16-17 days if they remove them all.
@@thomasbjarnelof2143 I just saw that they're removing containers that are interfering with bridge removal which sounds like they'll only clear a minimum of the front section.
@@ottdog1952 Port authority can order anything they want, but they still have to procure the millions needed.
But it would seem like a bargain today, right?
it is like eating rice one rice at a time.
A not inaccurate description.
In a way it is. Maybe looking at it as a giant Jenga puzzle.
@@susanwahl6322 I was thinking the same thing but using dominos.....one wrong move and they all fall in the water....lol trying to get the damaged ones that's the trick.
Here's a thought. If the bow is aground and they remove enough containers it may start to float which means it will go up and down with the tide making the bridge removal even more tricky.
They aren't removing all the containers, they're removing the ones that pose an immediate threat to the safety of those working beneath them.
I’ve worked with the old 533. Great machine and an outstanding crew. Truly a professional group. They make it look easy.
People on here don't understand how much more time consuming it is to offload those containers this way, which is much harder than if the ship was at dock being unloaded by the gantry cranes designed for that purpose.
So people on here criticizing all the work being done that do not meet their unrealistic expectations really need to chill out
Most of the comments are not taking the fact there are people there working trying to clean this mess up. And some of the comments are not taking their lives into consideration at all. They need room to work on the bridge laying on the ship, so remove some containers to give them that room. But as you remove anything, the weight on the front of the boat gets lighter, the bow comes up. When it comes off the river bottom, the ship may move. Then what happens to the bridge laying on the ship and the damaged containers that are leaning ready to fall over. Are they going to fall and kill someone else? I am sure everyone working on that want to go home at the end of their shift.
Wow, you can see workers repelling down the sides of the damaged and leaning containers, to hook up the lines to lift them.
That is one messed up problem,and always use cautious work habits,when working safe
Thanks!
Weeks 533 is a 500-short-ton (454 t) capacity Clyde Iron Works model 52 barge-mounted crane which is the largest revolving floating crane on the East Coast
I was amazed by how much of the bow was ripped off.
With the number of container ship wrecks, it would seem to make sense to build some automatic spreaders like the dock container cranes use. Might avoid workers on top of the stacks.
The weight of the bridge caused the ship to run aground. So first remove parts of the bridge plus a large number of containers. The ship can then be refloated and towed to port.
Lmao you have no idea what you're talking about at all. I repeat at all nothing
People are going to want a refund for there missing goods and a lot of returns for companies that are promising quick delivery
I think about the people who Lost their lives by surprise, this wasn't fair for them
@@davidmackey74they are not missing it's still inside the containers. Also all the stuff on the ship is outgoing the shop already dropped everything off at the port and reloaded so all this going to another country.
I would say the biggest concern is going to be preventing a fire as they begin to cut the bridge away from the ship. That will be tricky.
Odd use of a 500 ton crane, lifting single containers on the whip. Maybe filling in time between big lifts?
Crane ratings are just a guideline. Those weight limits drop dramatically the farther up, and farther away from the crane base, you go. 500 tons drops a good 80-90% at maximum extension. And there's no way that crane is right alongside the boat.
That’s why they are using the whip line for the containers,there is no reason to use the old man.keep the crane working
At 10 minutes per container and working 24/7, it will take 33 days to unload those 4700 containers.
Hard to believe that container is 40 ft long and weight an easy 20 tons or more.
Why don't they remove the bridge beams and whatnot covering the ships bow before removing containers from the ship?
Because the containers are in the way...
Because some of the containers are in danger of falling on the workers. Those are the ones they're moving.
Removing the containers form the Dali will make it lighter and thus unstable, it could slip into the main channel. Meanwhile, there seems to be little going on to clear the channel. The bridge components can only be cleared by shaped charges, these structures are under stress and unstable. To cut them apart manually is suicide. Who is mucking up opening a major supply line?
Yes!!! You are right! The hull might be broken as well!
Most people have no concept of what is involved in that cleanup, the weights and volumes involved. As for the picture quality, the camera is a couple miles away. That should give you a little perspective of the size of the job. That job is an engage brain before making any move of anything kind of job if you don't want to kill more people in the process.
So as they unload all of these containers, how do they handle the damaged ones, the ones that have their contents exposed. So does this cargo have to be reloaded into another container?
THEY DIP THEM IN THE BAY 2 OR 3 TIMES TO FLUSH OUT THE CONTAMINANTS.
I wonder if there's some unusual container movement being filmed, as there seems to be some liquid dripping from the ends of the container at 2:45?
@@kari8338 Sush that's methalethylbadstuff the most hazardous compound on earth. Don't be worried it will be diluted by all the water!
At this pace, when they say 24-7, they mean it's going to take 24 months and 7 days....
Maybe they should turn the comments off if people are going to be stupid.
There is 18,000 containers on that ship people don't understand the unsafe Factor I'm doing this kind of work just sit back and watch and keep your mouth shut and let the professionals do their job
I read where there are 4700 containers to be removed with the crane.
The capacity of ship is 10K T.E.U
Reports only have the front two compartments flooded. So - remove the bridge, remove containers at the bow only - especially HAZMAT ones - equal to the buoyancy lost. Nothing like all of them
Wait for a spring tide - attach tugs to the stern, ship's (massive) engine astern (if it can be used - cooling water may be an issue). Off she'll float. I'll bet the containers are off long before the bridge is cut away! (One every 10 mins is 144 a day - 1440 in ten - and that may be enough. They WILL get quicker at it - always happens)
Wow - this will take some time.
I will NOT blame the workers!
First, I would like to express my sorrows and condolences to the families who lost their loved ones due to the accident. Hi guys, by reading all your comments, there is NOT a single comment or remark about the workers on the bridge who lost their love ones on the bridge, you guys should be ashamed of yourself. These remarks are sent from Alberta Canada.
Over ten minutes to remove a single container, and hundreds have to be removed, and the process cannot be rushed. The workers scrambling around the pile of unstable containers on the Dali are performeing incredibly dangerous and necessary work. I hope their pay scale reflects those two facts.
I'm trying to work out where the camera is positioned to get this shot? Any ideas?
I saw last week that Streamtime will not reveal that info at the request of the camera host
probably Fort carrol only Island close to the bridge angle kinda fits also.
It's pretty easy to figure out based on the camera angles. It appears to be in the area of Riviera Beach. The camera is probably on one of the private docks. I think I know which one, but I'll not post it here. It is certainly not on Fort Carroll.
@@stargazer7644
Wow that must be about 5 miles away from the bridge! Great view with that long lens. 👍
@@TimHollingworth 3.5 miles.
J'espere que dans ces containers il n'y a que des marchandises travail de longue haleine pour enlevé tous ces containers les uns apres les autres courage a ceux qui font ce travail
AHHH just go full a stern
Wow lot of comments on here that are just out their that really don’t understand the complexity it the situation it kind of like a house of cards between hazardous containers,bridge laying over boat, tied coming in and out, and once you move a peace of debris it can effect the rest so everything will take time to get it move safely off and away from said boat plus you want to do it so you don’t cause a sever ecological disaster
Why does it look like computer aided picture
Extreme camera to ship distance.
I’m no engineer but am I wrong in thinking just get the bridge debris off the bow and tow it back to port ? Am I missing something? This seems like the longest hardest way ?
I think they want to remove the ones that are not still connected because they are not stable also they said that the ones with hazardous materials are on top of the ones on the bow and they do not want to risk dropping any of them in the water
One minor problem. There is a 6 inch high pressure gas line under the ship. Could be impressive.
What if the ship isn't towable and sinks? Another Golden Year added to the timeline?
Ever play Jenga? This is the colossal real life version. Maybe the containers are tangled up with the bridge debris and have to be moved first? Maybe the damaged and/or unsecured containers need to be moved before the try and re-float the ship so there isn't an avalanche of containers tumbling off the ship. I'm sure the engineers and salvage crew have planned this *_very carefully_*
Both blocks were all the way up on the crane. They weren’t lifting anything, that I saw.
This is painful get the experts in
STAY SAFE SALVAGE CREWS!
Rome wasn't built in a day, I guess.
How many containers are on there? Gracious! 800? 1800?
14 to 21 thousand at a time.
More than 24,000 for the largest container ships. So 24000 multiplied by what? 10 minutes for each container... It will take a few months, looks like.
I counted 9 tall, 19 wide, and 18 long; about 3000
@@ottdog1952 Takes about 3 days for each ship.
4,656 containers on board
Only one negative comment from me, the music if you can call it that. It detractsfrom an excellent video and before someone makes the remark I know I can turn it off but then you miss the communication.
Extrapolating from this brief video, it appears they could unload on-the-order of 100 containers per day.
Although the ship’s capacity is nearly 10k TEUs, or nearly 5k 40 foot containers, I’m guessing that only about 1/5th of those need to be removed. So maybe 1.5 weeks.
This type of crane is required for the job for all manner of good reasons. But it clearly is much slower than if they were moored at a dock with the normal, port side container cranes.
Since your the expert how many containers do they load in a day under normal conditions let us know is that union workers and they don't have a bridge over there heads
I'm just curious why they are only picking up one container at a time. That crane can easily do two.
@@snoozefluThe crane could technically lift a hundred containers at a time but not practically possible.
Maybe unsafe might be worried about weight too much at once with bridge on top of it
Whats happening is twice a day the tides acting like a up and down on bridge thus sawing the ship in half need to got a move on 😮 18,000 containers 15 mins to take of one , =125 days 😮
The bridge isn't floating, it is sitting on the bottom, as is the ship's bow. Nothing is moving. The Dali only has 4700 containers on board.
in the marine world these cranes are the little ones
They have ballast tank build into the ship and can pump water to offset the weight of the removed containers if necessary . It is all a slow and dangerous job and they work with a lot off unknown factors
2 mins until
How to completely spoil what should be a very informative video. The crappy accompanying background 'music' and crackly communications persuaded me to dump this vid after 4 minutes.
There is a mute button on the player just for folks like you.
No rush to do this$$$.
China would have had that cleaned up by now
With slave labor.
And nobody would have known about it.
This is NOT China, this is the US
Is this crane operator getting paid by the hour because at that rate, it’s gonna take him the rest of his life to get that the next two containers off pretty sorry
These unionized workers are going to string out this work 'til the end of the century.
Congratulations for the stupidest comment 🤡
That was a pretty stupid statement because if it wasn't for the union workers that know how to run the f****** cranes you're just a couch potato with a big mouth you can't run that crane you're just a couch potato
While you sit at home in your mother's basement freeloading on government unemployment .
...they need a 500 ton crane (lifting capacity) to move 20 ton shipping containers..........
One way to launder money I guess...
I'm by no means an expert but I would think it has to do with reach to get to those containers.
This crane is also the one they use to lift the heavy bridge sections duh
Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt
If you know anything about a Crain's Capacity it goes down as the radius increases. 500 ton crane
Boomed all the up 500 tone Boomed down just a few tones . Try lifting a pail of water and hold it
straight out of your body.
Good god shut the hell up