Introducing the Baroque Piccolo Cello

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    0:00 Introduction
    0:15 Five string tuning
    0:31 The sound
    0:40 The instrument
    1:06 Bach's use of the piccolo cello
    1:56 Excerpt of Bach's BWV6
    2:33 Violin family instruments before standardisation
    3:13 Different approach to playing
    4:05 Performance of Bach's Suite No.6, Gavotte II
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  • @vinny142
    @vinny142 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Made in 1739, almost 300 years old.
    If only it could talk.
    Ofcourse it will have had it's little repairs here and there but the fact that it is still being played today is a testament to the workmanship of mister Schonger.

  • @kurtkaufman
    @kurtkaufman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +126

    The D major suite by J. S. Bach contains much upper range passage work which, because it's difficult to play, inevitably results in a certain increased intensity on a four-string cello. Playing the same suite on a five string cello relaxes the sound and changes the character of the piece as performed.

    • @clancywiggam
      @clancywiggam 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Interesting. I'd love to hear that.

    • @peterwollenberg4905
      @peterwollenberg4905 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@clancywiggam Look for the excellent 1998 recording by Pieter Wispelwey, he uses a cello piccolo in places for this recording.

    • @petertrubody8463
      @petertrubody8463 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Could you please put more videos out on the piccolo cello

  • @JessmanChicken86
    @JessmanChicken86 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +125

    It's a bit like if you combined a cello, violin, and viola into one instrument. I absolutely love it.

    • @JScaranoMusic
      @JScaranoMusic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Yeah, there are five-string violas that have a high E string. This is just that but an octave lower. Very interesting.

    • @loiman4179
      @loiman4179 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How

    • @JScaranoMusic
      @JScaranoMusic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@loiman4179 A violin has G, D, A, and E strings; a viola has C, G, D, and A - the same as the lowest three on the violin and another one that's lower. A cello also has C, G, D, and A, but an octave lower.
      This has C, G, D, A and E, combing all the strings of the violin and viola, but an octave lower like the cello.

    • @WhoDis-se2uq
      @WhoDis-se2uq 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ew no, not a viola 🤢🤮
      I’m kidding don’t come after me

  • @linc8983
    @linc8983 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    This came on my feed. The last piece played was just beautiful and the way the low notes collide with the high ones is just marvelous. I enjoyed this an awful lot.

  • @andycordy5190
    @andycordy5190 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Bach's genius is ever inspiring. For me, never more so in his French inflected works. The Gavotte here is somehow unmistakable but also richly flavoured by the sound of French dance music for Viols. Gorgeous.

  • @victotronics
    @victotronics 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    I love these presentations of instruments I may never have heard of.

  • @aegirosaurusichthyosaur541
    @aegirosaurusichthyosaur541 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    VERY nice! Beautiful instrument

  • @notmyworld44
    @notmyworld44 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If it ain't Baroque, don't fix it! I kept waiting for her to play a lyrical passage on that E-string. I enjoyed the video.

  • @EdMcF1
    @EdMcF1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    So what you're saying is 'It's a sort of big viola.' 🙂

    • @vibratingstring
      @vibratingstring 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      An enormous octave violin or, er, a bowed Irish bouzouki!

    • @kellysikorski1824
      @kellysikorski1824 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No, a normal cello is a big viola. This is a big 5-string violin.

  • @kidmohair8151
    @kidmohair8151 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    there is a certain something about the people
    who decide to make the cello their means of expressing
    their art.
    sidebar: there's more than a touch of hurdy-gurdy in that last piece.

  • @Tyltonstudios
    @Tyltonstudios 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I literally screamed “Yes” when i saw the new upload. Also, the new background is really nice.

  • @jochanaan58
    @jochanaan58 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Very interesting! I've played BWV6 but on modern instruments (I played English horn--love the first air!), and I had no idea the "cello" part was actually for cello piccolo!

  • @alantracy6757
    @alantracy6757 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    What a beautiful deep sound it makes, that low C# note

    • @phineas1117
      @phineas1117 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s a D because it’s tuned in A=415Hz instead of A=440Hz

  • @MemphiStig
    @MemphiStig 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've been studying music most of my life. I have a Music Education degree, and a ridiculous number of hours in college. I even studied cello for 5 years. And I've never heard of this instrument. Or the Bass violin I saw on Antiques Roadshow a couple of months ago. Beautiful sound. Amazing that the instrument you're playing is older than the USA.

  • @alastairwilson457
    @alastairwilson457 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What a wonderful instrument, beautifully played and explained. I must get one!

  • @angelabrady9342
    @angelabrady9342 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Such a pretty instrument with the trimming around fingerboard, pegs etc. (curious to know if it was bone, ivory or a pale timber?).
    Also, old is the bow? Is it high tensioned, or the wood just shaped that way for this era instrument?

    • @Nepeta-Leijon
      @Nepeta-Leijon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      im a violinist, not a cellist, so i dont know for sure, but violin bows from the era have a similar shape so i would guess cello bows were similar back then

  • @hansvonhochtann2739
    @hansvonhochtann2739 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you can really see in her paying how much she loves this cello and how much they are becoming one while playing

  • @antoinepetrov
    @antoinepetrov 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Yay, another video from this series! We're all blessed

  • @jonathan7140
    @jonathan7140 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Fantastic sounding instrument!

  • @oldcrow6990
    @oldcrow6990 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So beautiful. I miss playing cello. Thank you!

  • @vibratingstring
    @vibratingstring 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Delicious sound. Wonderful explanation. I hope you tour the USA someday soon!

  • @yvesdelombaerde5909
    @yvesdelombaerde5909 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    « When 285 Years Old You Reach, Look As Good You Will Not »

  • @donalddonaldson7404
    @donalddonaldson7404 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you.

  • @bigsarge2085
    @bigsarge2085 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Very cool and interesting!

  • @yugandali
    @yugandali 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I grumble and gripe about TH-cam's ads and swear never to support the advertisers, but where else can we see such fascinating clips?

  • @ivormalherbe4502
    @ivormalherbe4502 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Without the low C, isn't it a "Tenor Violin" as described by Auguste Tolbecque ? Thank so much for this video.

  • @B1bthinkin
    @B1bthinkin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for this introduction to such a beautiful instrument.

  • @Dan.Parker
    @Dan.Parker 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have often thought that violins are quite limited and actually hard at times to listen to. Your explanation about how string instruments were much more diverse several hundred years ago makes perfect sense.

  • @allthumbs3792
    @allthumbs3792 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lovely!! Hope to hear more of this wonderful extended range cello.

  • @tabd3277
    @tabd3277 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow those doubles-stops were beautiful. So rich and full sounding. Gave me goosebumps. Thank you for the really interesting information.

  • @oulunsaloensemble
    @oulunsaloensemble 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Such a beautiful instrument. ✨🙌 Thanks for the video!

  • @martinmulvany1157
    @martinmulvany1157 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sounds beautiful.

  • @JulieAnnGilman
    @JulieAnnGilman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Truly beautiful

    • @LyleGlenn
      @LyleGlenn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed, and so is the dark cello.

  • @sommelierofstench
    @sommelierofstench 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    something special about an instrument so old

  • @GuitarUniverse2013
    @GuitarUniverse2013 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s fantastic! It’s beautiful, you’re beautiful, and the variety of instruments that were available for that time. Continues to amaze us. Thank you so so much for bringing us to our attention! Keep playing…

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    It's a 5 string Cello (I have one too) and actually it can be used to play Violin music an Octave Lower than written

    • @johkkarkalis8860
      @johkkarkalis8860 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes!
      The instrument is the only way to play the D major 6th cello suite
      It gets ones attention after hearing the first 5 of these essential works.
      It amazes me that any instruments survive from Bach's time..
      Tender loving care, I would wager.

    • @RockStarOscarStern634
      @RockStarOscarStern634 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@johkkarkalis8860 But Violin music an Octave lower, this instrument is going to be quite useful

    • @johkkarkalis8860
      @johkkarkalis8860 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@RockStarOscarStern634 The 1st time I heard the 6th cello suite by Bach played by Nikolaus Harnoncourt on a mid 17th century piccolo violoncello my ears perked up, "Wow! What a sound!".
      For this 84 year old kid Bach travels well indeed -- I wouldn't doubt that "Art of Fugue" would sound just fine, performed by a kazoo quartet.

    • @RockStarOscarStern634
      @RockStarOscarStern634 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@johkkarkalis8860 Bach's Violin Sonatas and Partitas actually should work on the 5 String Cello too

    • @dougmiles7124
      @dougmiles7124 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It almost fits logically between a viola and cello, like a missing link.

  • @leoperarm
    @leoperarm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love these videos

  • @omorsebrown
    @omorsebrown 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really beautiful playing!

  • @jesuisravi
    @jesuisravi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    beautiful instrument and beautifully played...

  • @francoisvillon1300
    @francoisvillon1300 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It would be entertaining to see it next to a 'regular' cello.

  • @truthinesssss
    @truthinesssss 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Delightful, thank you. ☀️

  • @kansasllama
    @kansasllama 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely gorgeous

  • @hildegerdhaugen7864
    @hildegerdhaugen7864 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love it.

  • @chromatos7428
    @chromatos7428 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ah my favourite instrument, the little big small viol!

  • @gustavocortesmunizaga814
    @gustavocortesmunizaga814 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you!!!

  • @caiogarzeri7831
    @caiogarzeri7831 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    very interesting and beautiful!

  • @lonhodowal8779
    @lonhodowal8779 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a delicious sound you bring from this instrument. It convinces me that this piece must have been created for you. Thank rou. L

  • @PlanetImo
    @PlanetImo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Realyy interesting, thanks :)

  • @vicbanks9079
    @vicbanks9079 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a delight to see and hear a rare antiquarian instrument. I would've liked some close-up shots detailing what looks to be fine workmanship. Explanation of such a dark wood color, the white material edging the upper neck, etc. Of course how about a word regarding who is your lovely musician? More please. And many thanks

    • @kaclama
      @kaclama 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Her name is on screen at the start of the video.

    • @vicbanks9079
      @vicbanks9079 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kaclama I was distracted by her youthful beauty, thank you.

  • @geef6770
    @geef6770 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Großartig!

  • @Lucius_Chiaraviglio
    @Lucius_Chiaraviglio 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had heard of the violoncello piccolo before, but this is the first time I have actually seen one, and find it a bit surprising that it is almost the same size as a normal cello . . . although I just noticed that the Wikipedia article on the cello has a photo of one that is scarcely smaller than this one. Too bad these are not made any more.

  • @chrisperyagh
    @chrisperyagh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    And to think I'd only recently heard of the violoncello da spalla and today here's the violoncello piccolo!
    How many more types of cello are there?

  • @pagorami5253
    @pagorami5253 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i would love to own one to play bach's 6th suite...

  • @ChrissieCaulfield
    @ChrissieCaulfield 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love this instrument. I have an electric 'octave' violin which has 5 strings tuned exactly the same. I wonder if I can learn some Bach on it :)

    • @Cellosong2007
      @Cellosong2007 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Totally possible, even easier! Especially on the higher passages of Suite No. 6

  • @choccyfan
    @choccyfan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks

    • @oae
      @oae  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Dear @choccyfan, thank you so much for your generous donation. It is much appreciated! ❤️🙏

  • @t3hgr8gabbo
    @t3hgr8gabbo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Violone = big viol
    Violoncello = little big viol
    Violoncello piccolo = little little big viol

  • @michaelbishop.
    @michaelbishop. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Naivety perhaps, but expect all stringed instruments to be available with extra strings for flexibility.

    • @MatthewWaltonWalton
      @MatthewWaltonWalton 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is why I play 7 string bass viol and look enviously upon the 5 string fiddles which seem to be becoming more prevalent on the folk scene in England. There are limits to practicality of course but an extra string is so much fun!

  • @johnrobinsoniii4028
    @johnrobinsoniii4028 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The ‘Cello with five strings-just like the “Viola Pomposa”, Musicians could play the famous “Sixth Suite” of Bach.

  • @eckligt
    @eckligt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For an example of an even smaller cello being played "da spalla" (on the shoulder) as Luise Buchberger mentions, here's the 6th Bach Cello Suite played by Sergey Malov as part of The Netherlands Bach Society: th-cam.com/video/wbH3JYfRjOQ/w-d-xo.html

  • @stickom
    @stickom 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gavotte II.. sweet!🙂

  • @ThinWhiteAxe
    @ThinWhiteAxe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i just wanna say i love her accent

  • @kishascape
    @kishascape 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Picello 😊

  • @MsCellobass
    @MsCellobass หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice cello

  • @CanadianDivergent
    @CanadianDivergent 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I prefer the modern cello when playing the 6th suite. But this is beautiful! omg I would be so afraid of it getting dinged or broken and then the remainder of my life paying for it...

  • @mtv565
    @mtv565 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When you say piccolo cello, it technically mean the viola. Since the viola is tuned exactly one octave above the cello, hence "piccolo". Never expect there is another instrument bigger than the viola!

    • @noahleong6426
      @noahleong6426 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But this isnt tuned an octave above the cello, its gdae is an octave below the violin

  • @chrislj2890
    @chrislj2890 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:07 Who was the lady singing? She sounded fantastic. The cello was impressive and I'd like to hear that whole performance.

    • @oae
      @oae  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi @chrislj2890, The lady singing is soprano Miriam Allan.

    • @chrislj2890
      @chrislj2890 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@oae
      Thank you!

  • @seishoaniki
    @seishoaniki 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😊

  • @trishtraynor
    @trishtraynor 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ooooooo. That's a fruity sound. 💖

  • @jacks5kids
    @jacks5kids 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Look how short the fingerboard is! It seems that the distance from the end of the fingerboard to the bridge is more than double that of a regular 'cello. That means you must lose a whole octave of playable stopped (non-harmonic) high notes. By eye, it looks like the end of the fingerboard gives each string about a twelfth of range. The E-string gives an additional fifth, of course, but the overall result must mean that this old piccolo cello actually has significantly less range than a regular 4-string 'cello played all the way to the end of its fingerboard. Is that true in practice? It seems that it is quite recent (Elgar?) that cellists play notes in the highest register.

  • @jonathanwingmusic
    @jonathanwingmusic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beautiful instrument! Interesting it was called "piccolo" which implies a higher register tuning, you'd expect overall that it would be either a 5th or full octave higher all around, like a viola. But I suppose in this case it's really just a cello with that added E string for an expanded range, and yet overall in a smaller size which lends it a thinner, airier, more delicate tone. I love the double stops at the end!

    • @gerardvila4685
      @gerardvila4685 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My understanding was that we don't really know… If you analyse it:
      Viola = viol (aka viola) (a viol in English can be any size, same with French viole, don't know about Italian)
      Violone = big viol (double bass I think)
      Violoncello = small big viol = small double bass?
      Piccolo Violoncello = little small big viol

    • @jonathanwingmusic
      @jonathanwingmusic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gerardvila4685 haha nice, yes it's kinda funny all the different names. I guess my implication is based on stuff like Piccolo Flute, Piccolo Clarinet, Piccolo Snare drum etc - all of which are not only smaller in size but also tuned higher as a result, so I found it interesting the Piccolo Cello isn't really tuned any differently, it's more like a 3/4 or 7/8 cello with an extra string. Cool either way!

  • @geraldtrimble8376
    @geraldtrimble8376 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a lovely video. More study and use of 5 string is needed.
    Please, though, there is absolutely no historical reference anywhere to 5 strings as "violoncello piccolo".

  • @instrumentalheadquarters7062
    @instrumentalheadquarters7062 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Historic bass(low) flutes?

  • @TenorCantusFirmus
    @TenorCantusFirmus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is the piccolo cello (expecially the four stringed G-d-a-e' version) practically the same as the "taille de violon" / tenor violin? Or should they be considered different instruments?

    • @347Jimmy
      @347Jimmy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I would think that body size/scale length would be the differentiating factor
      Small instrument = tenor violin, large instrument = piccolo cello

    • @TenorCantusFirmus
      @TenorCantusFirmus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@347Jimmy Might be.

  • @sparkystep
    @sparkystep 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is this the instrument I heard in one of the Cantatas atThe Saffron Hall on Sunday?

    • @oae
      @oae  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes it is!🙂

    • @mileshember3501
      @mileshember3501 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was there too, & noticed this instrument resting by her side, 5 strings clearly visible. What a delight to have this commentary and examples.
      The concert was splendid, highly enjoyable. Thankyou to all involved!

    • @sparkystep
      @sparkystep 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mileshember3501 It was an wonderful experience the performace was outstanding and the acoustics of Saffron Hall really help. I noticed the sound piccolo cello did not carry as well as the standard cello though.

  • @classicgameplay10
    @classicgameplay10 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I didnt know Piccolo Daimao had a cello named after him.

  • @semiot8305
    @semiot8305 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Modern cellos need that 5th string.

  • @olorin4317
    @olorin4317 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:05

  • @gxtmfa
    @gxtmfa 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Anything to avoid viola

  • @aleksdizhe
    @aleksdizhe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I. Want. A 5-string. Cello.

  • @genustinca5565
    @genustinca5565 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why are some older cellos - like this one - very dark in colour?

  • @niamhoconnor8986
    @niamhoconnor8986 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The cello almost sounds as good as her accent

  • @DouglasKnisely
    @DouglasKnisely 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Such a shame the 5-string cello fell out of favor.

    • @johnrobinsoniii4028
      @johnrobinsoniii4028 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You know…the 5-string ‘Cello could have gone the “other way”: A low “Contra-F” string. (Why not?)

    • @uubuuh
      @uubuuh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      well we’re all here for it now

    • @cellectronica
      @cellectronica 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@johnrobinsoniii4028 In one aspect, the history of violoncello was a quest as tenor instrument. The high-pitched melodies generated from the tenor body characterizes the cello as a solo instrument. (You know Salut d'amour, The swan...etc)
      Bach's suites are wonderful pieces that show, at the same time, cello can act very well at both of bass and solo.
      Violoncello piccolo may be a product of the spicy challenge of balance to maintain its characteristics.

  • @parthoroy9141
    @parthoroy9141 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Viola on steroids

  • @nottooherbal
    @nottooherbal 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A pickled cello.

  • @bg357wg
    @bg357wg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So…a PiccoCello?