Pastor Myers, I just want to say , thank you for being a fighter for the truth of God’s Word. May God continue to hold up your hands. Your labor is not in vain.
It's simple and plain, saints. Let go of biases and preconceived ideas, and just follow the pattern that the LORD has laid out for us. It's beautiful. Be at peace. Thank you, Pastor Myers!
Powerful! This really gets to the heart of the confusion and why many believe that the day of atonement is only about the death of Christ. I know that the Holy Spirit has opened the eyes of many through this study!
Ivor, you had the critics running from the beginning when you shared from scripture the feast of first fruits was Sunday. They became "blind." Let's pray for the critics that they will be "healed" before they intrench themselves as the Sanhedrin did when they convicted Christ.
What are you going to do with it ?you first have to tell me what did Jesus Christ do with the sins on the same day ,in 1 Peter 2:24 .how did they get there? the only feast day that will be held in the future is Zechariah Chapter 14 .the Feast of Tabernacles. he misinterpreted the the Feast of unleavened bread .which is only for the Jews .not the Gentiles unless you came out of Egypt and you had put the blood of the Lamb across the doorpost.. they ate that lamb!! And in Leviticus 16, they don't eat that goat! They burn it!
@@MarkChupp-j5i If what pastor Myers said didn't resonate with you, it's probably because you're fixated on the cross. But the Day of Atonement did not signify Christ's death on the cross. If it did, a lamb would be sacrificed. John 1:29 says: The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, BEHOLD THE LAMB OF GOD, WHICH TAKETH AWAY THE SIN OF THE WORLD. It does not say: Behold the GOAT of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. In his role of sin-bearer, Jesus is portrayed as a LAMB. That's because a lamb was sacrificed at the alter of sacrifice which alter symbolised the cross. The goat for the Lord is not bearing the sins because that has already been done at the cross. Hebrews 7:27 Who needeth NOT DAILY, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for THIS HE DID ONCE, WHEN HE OFFERED UP HIMSELF. Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was ONCE OFFERED TO BEAR THE SINS of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. This Once was at the alter of sacrifice/on the cross. On the day of atonement there are no sins laid on the head of the Lord's goat as there is daily on the lamb at the alter of sacrifice. There is no sin in its blood taken into the sanctuary, because All the sins are ALREADY in the sanctuary. They have been carried there daily by the blood of the lamb. The job of the goat is not to BEAR sins, but to CLEANSE sins. Leviticus 16 18 And he shall go out unto the altar that is before the Lord, AND MAKE AN ATONEMENT FOR IT; and shall take of the blood of the bullock, AND OF THE BLOOD OF THE GOAT, AND put it upon the horns of the altar round about. 19 And he shall sprinkle of the blood upon it with his finger seven times, AND CLEANSE IT, and hallow it FROM THE UNCLEANNESS OF THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL. Read Leviticus carefully and prayerfully and you'll notice that the Blood of the Lord's goat was used to CLEANSE THE SANCTUARY AND THE PEOPLE. This is God telling us what Jesus is doing AFTER he's taken/borne our sins on the cross. We as sinners are justified, our sins taken away, forgiven, when we accept His sacrifice on the cross. But the sins have been transferred from us to the heavenly sanctuary as Israel's sins were transferred to the earthly sanctuary in the typical service. And just as the earthly priests entered the sanctuary once a year "with the blood of bulls and goats" to "purify" (i.e. cleanse) so Hebrews tells us that Jesus "offered himself without spot to God" to "purge (i.e. cleanse)your conscience from dead works to serve the living God". Hebrews 9: 11-14 Only AFTER the Lord's goat has made atonement for the sins in the sanctuary and the sins of the people, does the scapegoat enter the picture. It has no part in the atonement. Note Leviticus 19:20-21 20 And WHEN HE HATH MADE AN END OF RECONCILING THE HOLY PLACE, and the tabernacle of the congregation, and the altar, HE SHALL BRING THE LIVE GOAT: 21 And Aaron shall lay both his hands upon the head of the live goat, and confess over him all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their transgressions in all their sins, PUTTING THEM UPON THE HEAD OF THE GOAT, and shall send him away by the hand of a fit man into the wilderness: If the scapegoat was Jesus, then he would be bearing our sins twice - once at the cross (at the alter of sacrifice) and again on the day of atonement. But as you can see from Hebrews, He did that only once. God is a God of mercy, but He's also a God of Justice. His mercy was demonstrated at the cross. His Justice is shown on the day of atonement when Satan, the scapegoat gets his just rewards. So why would Satan bear the sins of God's people on his head? (Notice he's not bearing the sins of the whole world as Jesus did but only those confessed sins from the sanctuary). Scripture tells us that he who devise mischief against another, his mischief shall return upon his own head. See for instance just a few of these texts below. 1 Samuel 25:39 And when David heard that Nabal was dead, he said, Blessed be the Lord, that hath pleaded the cause of my reproach from the hand of Nabal, and hath kept his servant from evil: FOR THE LORD HATH RETURNED THE WICKEDNESS OF NABAL UPON HIS OWN HEAD. 1 Kings 2:32 And the Lord shall return his blood UPON HIS OWN HEAD, who fell upon two men more righteous and better than he, and slew them with the sword Esther 9:25 But when Esther came before the king, he commanded by letters that his (Haman's) wicked device, which he devised against the Jews, SHOULD RETURN UPON HIS OWN HEAD, and that he and his sons should be hanged on the gallows. Psalm 7:16 14 Behold, he travaileth with iniquity, and hath conceived mischief, and brought forth falsehood. 15 HE MADE A PIT, AND DIGGED IT, AND IS FALLEN INTO THE DITCH WHICH HE MADE. 16 HIS MISCHIEF SHALL RETURN UPON HIS OWN HEAD, and his violent dealing shall come down upon his own pate. 2 Chronicles 6:23 Then hear thou from heaven, and do, and judge thy servants, BY REQUITING THE WICKED, BY RECOMPENSING HIS WAY UPON HIS OWN HEAD; AND BY JUSTIFYING THE RIGHTEOUS, BY GIVING HIM ACCORDING TO HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS. The day of atonement is also called the day of judgment and the last text tells us exactly what it's for. Satan, who caused God's people to sin, will have those forgiven sins put back on his own head because they belong to him. He will be banished to a desolate place (wilderness) called a BOTTOMLESS PIT in Revelation 20. And we see that Ecclesiastes 10:8 8 He that diggeth a PIT shall fall into it; There is much more that can be, and has been said about why the scapegoat cannot be Jesus, but the Bible plainly says ONE goat for the Lord and the OTHER for Azazel. Logically Azazel cannot be for the Lord. Jesus said Matthew 12:30 He that is not with me is against me. If one goat is FOR the Lord, the other cannot be FOR the Lord and must therefore be AGAINST Him.
@@MarkChupp-j5i That comment you made is just a pile of nonsense. How was the feast of unleavened bread misinterpreted? What did he say about the feast that was incorrect?
Thank you, Pastor Myers, for an elaborate submission, clear and thorough, Bible all day. It is the work of the Holy Ghost to convict listeners, God bless you
THANK YOU PASTOR MYERS for this Bible all day study😊. I understand much better the feasts. I am SDA. But I needed this study very very much. Everything is crystal clear. I love the TRUTH!❤❤❤❤❤
Excellent Brother Myers. How beautiful to hear this Great Truth without one single EGW quote. I SO much more prefer to hear a,"thus saith the Lord." It carries much more weight. SDA preachers sadly enough, just about quote their entire sermons from Sister White. I can very easily understand why people, would consider SDAs a cult because "we follow nothing which doesn't bear the EGW stamp ." I am a dis fellowshipped SDA. But to me the Holy Bible KJV is the ultimate standard by which to measure anything and everything which professes to be truth. For me , no other church preaches this unique message. I heard my father preach this truth from many a pulpit. So I truly appreciate your "strictly Bible" verses. It just so happens that I was researching this info for 2 people who asked me questions right from M's site. But I insisted to use only Bible verses. And this flawless presentation came up. I learned information that I ' d assumed i knew. Thank you Brother Myers and may God bless you. P.S.- i guess you heard about how Dr. Corad Vine was Banned from preaching by the Michigan Union prez. & denounce by the GC and the big wheels of the SDA administration. Dr. Vine preached The Sermon that has rocked the Church to its core and increased what I believe is The Shaking. Pray and support the Truth always.
@SRD1984 If the Day of atonement is pointing to an event after the cross but before the feast of tabernacles how is it representing Christ? The feast of unleavened bread already covered removing sins from people. Each feast has a sacrifice and another event that is not the cross (except for Passover). They all point to a separate event. Pentecost, Trumpets, etc. Where in the future is Jesus sent into something that the wilderness would represent bearing sins? Remember again that Passover already covered Jesus bearing sins.
The word "war" [in heaven] is translated from the Greek word "polemis" from which we get our English word "polemical". That is, the conflict between God and the rebel angels was conducted more as a "political debate."
Pastor Myers, would you please take into consideration, that not all of us are have a laptop or are even computer savvy. All i have is my smartphone. So please consider and I literally couldn't get why yelled throughout this otherwise flawless presentation.❤
@Power of the Lamb Since the first four Spring feasts were accomplished back-to-back, how do you explain why the last three Fall feasts don't happen back-to-back in a literal sense with the same spacing of days as the Spring feasts. We believe the feast of trumpets was the midnight cry and the day of atonement began in 1844. But the day of atonement did not last 180 years. How do you explain the literal application in the Spring and protracted application in the fall? At 1:47:10, you briefly mentioned the Greek, but I did not clearly get your point. How does Paul use hagion hagion? You said he uses it to mean most holy place and the sanctuary...so it can mean both depending on the context. How are you proving from the Greek that it means sanctuary here? Can you break that down a bit more?
Jesus & Disciples had the Last Supper on TUESday night, HE was Crucified*Laid in Grave on WEDnesday Before Sundown of Passover Sabbath, in Grave from Wednesday Eve thru the End of WEEKLY Sabbath*Saturday for a FULL 3 Days aka 72 Hours!! Man has Perverted the time saying it was Only PARTS of days!! HE Plainly Said HE would be like Jonah in belly of sea beast....3 DAYS & 3 NIGHTS!!!
Pastor, I appreciate your engagement. I’m glad you addressed Hebrews 9. I don’t agree with you, but I respect your view. I still think that what is said there completely refutes 1844 and therefor the scapegoat as well. I hope you really do realize pastor Myers that us former SDA’s (I’m only recently out after over thirty years in) do not hate SDA’s. Just the opposite is true. I LOVE the Adventist people and still consider them to be my people. But theologically there are problems. The scapegoat teaching robs Christ of the fullness of victory he achieved on our behalf. I know this is not the intent of SDA’s. But it is the implication of the doctrine. And the very reason I personally push back so hard on this doctrine is because I KNOW that the SDA people do not believe Satan is their sin bearer. The scapegoat IS OUR SIN BEARER. I’m trying to wake y’all up to the fact that you are giving people the wrong impression by this teaching. Why not just let it go? That’s what I don’t get. If this is causing a stumbling block for other Christian’s to want to break bread with you, why hold onto it. Is it really that necessary?
@@bryanbriby8191Absolutely, I agree, however I’ve still found SDA theology, including this theology to be more Biblically sound than the standard evangelical theology. Adventism has a wonderful soteriology, namely Arminianism, which is in line with the NT teachings.
Did you ever read the texts about having eyes that do not see and ears that do not hear? I will presume that you understand that for deception to exit those who are deceived will actually think that they have the truth. While lots of critics accuse Adventists of being deceived they do not have any credible evidence based on scripture to prove their accusations and while you are free to respectfully disagree it would carry more weight if you put out a video explaining why the day of atonement should be different to the other feasts. Since the SDA church has not experienced the tares being removed by God yet it will be easy to find people you don't like within their congregations so make sure that your decisions are based on scripture alone would be my request.
@@PrairieChristianOutreach well said.i was never brought up in any church.when I came in contact with the Advent msg,it was the closest thing,I've seen to the truth in the bible
The reason he's doing these many videos.. as he knows that if there are.sins (in) Jesus Christ 1 Peter 2:24.. the scapegoat is also on the cross on the same day.. so he has to tell you what happens to those sins (on the same day) .he has to have an answer for that. the first goat does not bear any sins .(the blood pays the price) which is what remission means! Leviticus 16:5 says both goats are for the atonement the sacrifice.. there's two parts to the sacrifice to finish the atonement.. and there's no place in Leviticus that says there is a cleansing of a sanctuary ..takes place . That theology that he says he does not get from Ellen.. that's where it comes from.. everything he's actually teaching is Ellen's teaching. Daniel 8:14.. which has nothing to do with this sanctuary.. and it's not even happened yet.. the misinterpretation of Daniel 8:14, create the devil to be the second goat ..which destroys Isaiah 43:25...so if the first goat has completely an eliminated the sins.. there would be no sin to be able to be placed by Aaron, on the second Goat.. but on the crucifixion day, Jesus is now Aaron! He will agree HE'S the first goat !and Aaron places The Sins on the second GOAT..on the same day to finish the atonement . As required by the sanctuary system.Jesus Christ places the sins upon himself 1 Peter 2:24. (the very first line).. without that you cannot possibly have Isaiah 43:25, ever have happened .that would mean you would never have salvation...
I am reposting this.. I made a mistake in the number of animals.. How many animals for the day of Atonement (Leviticus 16)? 5. How many were sacrificed? 4. How many had their blood brought INTO the sanctuary by the High Priest? 4. That leaves ONE animal..a goat..that has the sins of tbe people confessed on it and it is TAKEN OUT OF THE CAMP INTO THE WILDERNESS..NEVER TO RETURN.. it's blood IS NOT SHED.. IT DOES NOT DIE...ITS BLOOD DOES NOT GO INTO THE SANCTUARY.. HENCE... the scapegoat, representing Satan..who will die..
Yeah but who was the scapegoat and took your place at the cross? something that should have happened to you ..dying for your sins 1st Peter 2:24 ?how did those sins get there? and what did you do with them on the same day?
@@MarkChupp-j5i Is this like some weird obsession with you? How does what you asked about have anything to do with what the person said in the comment you are responding to? lol
@@JustAMessanger-o7g because he's lessened the value of Jesus Christ !the scapegoat which is the Cornerstone of the whole Bible.. Jesus removing the sins.. why, does SDA not want that to happen for them?
@@MarkChupp-j5i The word scapegoat in his comment had nothing to do with the day of atonement. Lol. Did you even read the comment or you just saw the word “scapegoat” and made another one of your outlandish assumptions? I am still waiting for you to explain how Jesus fulfilled what happened to the scapegoat. You don’t have to agree it is Satan but you still have to show how it can possibly be Jesus.
@@JustAMessanger-o7g the video is about a scapegoat that's the topic and Daniel 8:14 SDA still hasn't figured out the truth on... that's like saying we don't have to agree that the first Goat is Jesus Christ .....your confession of faith is.. it's the Devil Himself.. there is no room for disagreement.
I don't find any place in the Bible that says the day of atonement is a feast day.. it's listed as a feast day. but not a feast as normally done by the people of Israel .it's a day of affliction.. an Passover week was there for the Feast of unleavened bread.. for those that left Egypt, and they were to commemorate it for that purpose..the lamb is eaten.. in remembrance of their faith in the blood across the doorpost.. in the levitical sanctuary the first Goat Bears no sins ..for the atonement.. the atonement is done by Two Goats for the sacrifice, Leviticus 16:5 ,before it's finished ..both representing Jesus Christ.. what is revealed on the cross 1st Peter 2:24.. otherwise there would be no sins on the cross.. that Goat they do not eat.. they burn it... so the question remains where did those sins go on the cross on the same day?
For real? Leviticus 23:4 KJVS These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons. This is an inclusive statement. Just like this one: Leviticus 23:44 KJVS And Moses declared unto the children of Israel the feasts of the LORD. They are all feasts.
@@JustAMessanger-o7g does it say that human beings are having a feast there like they do on Passover day.. when you do the research there is food presented to the Lord but it doesn't say it goes to the people
@@JustAMessanger-o7g of course it does but they don't eat that goat in Leviticus 16 for a reason so that means the lamb which is crucified on preparation day represent something twofold rather than one
PLEASE THINK ...I am a FARMERS DAUGHTER & WIFE, FARMING is in my BONES ...& I KNOW PLAINLY that IN the FIELD & at the VERY TIME of HARVEST, prior to the PURE WHEAT GRAINS being BROUGHT into the STORE HOUSE... that is, the VERY TIME WHEN SHAKING is USED to SIFT the CHARF from the WHEAT, which means then, that the VERY TIME of HARVEST is PRESENTLY UPON US, ... is i't NOT?
Jesus healed a man born blind. The Pharisees would not accept it. The Pharisees became blind. That's what is happening to the critics unless they humble themselves and accept the truth.
On another note Myles ( a TH-camr) that is always criticising and mocking SDA beliefs has told me he would like a debate with Pr Myers and Dwayne Lemon. Can we make it happen ? 🙏🏼
Myles has debated Adventists before, he refuses to believe anything they say & insists that his understanding of scripture is the only possible explanation.
@@JustAMessanger-o7g MarkChupp has got to be Mary/Jim/Jamie’s new account. This person is a liar. They literally respond to their own other accounts while pretending that they are different people. No truth has come out of their mouth.
@@Vladi.G Oh yea, he has at least 4 accounts. I have seen him make them “talk to each other” as if they are different people. It is kinda hilarious. And yes, he is not honest with how he converses with us. He is sincere with what he believes, I believe that. His problem is he has double standards and is hypocritical. He expects us to answer his questions but ignores ours. He also expects us to show verses that say exactly what we claim but he does not hold himself to that same standard. He trolls SDA channels left and right and then complains that I keep bothering him whenever he says something in ONE channel. He is very disrespectful to us, calls us liars all the time but complains when he is called a liar. The worst part is he begins a conversation. We respond. He then gets to a point where he has to put up or shut up and what does he do? He stops talking. He runs. Here is an example. He constantly bugs us about the 2300 days and that it cannot get from 457BC to 1844AD. I show him how to count years and he ignores it. I also challenge him to go to an online time length calculator and input 457BC and 1844AD and see what he gets. You know this dude has not done that? He ignores avenues to truth that goes against his narrative. That is intellectual dishonesty. That is why I do not respect him. He is all talk but when something is presented with something that he can’t argue, he ignores it. It is pathetic. Now, I oppose him on this channel at every turn just to give him a taste of his own medicine AND to drive up the comment count. He can’t resist an argument so I use that to help the channel.
So how did the sins that are supposed to be yours! the one that removes the sins. the second Goat get in 1st Peter 2:24..? the scapegoat.. is the person that is Accused for what you yourself have done!! it ends up on the scapegoat! The scapegoat took your place
@@MajorGari so you're saying he went to the wilderness Matthew 12:40 to the heart of the Earth on the same day.. who's sins where they? The first Goat (does not bear any sins).. how did they get there?
@@MarkChupp-j5i Incorrect, the first Goat is for atonement, thus it carried sin when it died. The second goat is not for atonement, it was expelled from God's people. So, unless you're telling me that Jesus will be expelled, we have a problem here. Without shedding of blood, there is no atonement, thus, the goat for azazel is not Jesus, for it's not a sacrifice. Now, answer me this: What is the High Priest doing after the first goat, the Goat for the Lord, is killed? Understand that and you will understand how the second goat can NOT be Jesus.
@@MajorGari Jesus was expelled he went to the heart of the earth. just like the second goat and he also came back he does everything that spoken of.. but you're missed quoting the verse there's two parts to the atonement. and there's two Goats for the (sacrifice) Leviticus 1610 ,Leviticus 1616, in Leviticus 16:5.. atonement means to complete completion.. of the paid for price.. and the removal of sins.. and even for the (sanctuary.. which has nothing to do with sins .)....it is the entire job from beginning to end... remission means to pay for.. and that's you misinterpreting the use .. use of the word.. there. There is no remission of sins without shedding of blood.. you're not understanding the word meaning in Leviticus 16 Daniel 8:14 is not even happened yet ..if you would understand the prophecy of Daniel 8. you would clearly know what I'm telling you is the truth!!
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Pastor Myers, I just want to say , thank you for being a fighter for the truth of God’s Word. May God continue to hold up your hands. Your labor is not in vain.
It's simple and plain, saints. Let go of biases and preconceived ideas, and just follow the pattern that the LORD has laid out for us. It's beautiful. Be at peace. Thank you, Pastor Myers!
Powerful! This really gets to the heart of the confusion and why many believe that the day of atonement is only about the death of Christ. I know that the Holy Spirit has opened the eyes of many through this study!
You're never going to get to the heart of it until you explain what Jesus did with the sins on the cross 1st Peter 2:24 on the same day
@@MarkChupp-j5i
How about you explain it to us. You are good at asking people to explain things but never explain things when you are asked to.
Ivor, you had the critics running from the beginning when you shared from scripture the feast of first fruits was Sunday. They became "blind." Let's pray for the critics that they will be "healed" before they intrench themselves as the Sanhedrin did when they convicted Christ.
Wow im blown by this deep dive, surface readers is floating in this😂
Absolutely! The sanctuary pattern is wonderful isn’t it?
I apologize in advance, but I'm stealing everything you said in this video and sharing it with all of God's people I interact with...
- Jason ADL
What are you going to do with it ?you first have to tell me what did Jesus Christ do with the sins on the same day ,in 1 Peter 2:24 .how did they get there? the only feast day that will be held in the future is Zechariah Chapter 14 .the Feast of Tabernacles. he misinterpreted the the Feast of unleavened bread .which is only for the Jews .not the Gentiles unless you came out of Egypt and you had put the blood of the Lamb across the doorpost.. they ate that lamb!! And in Leviticus 16, they don't eat that goat! They burn it!
@@MarkChupp-j5i If what pastor Myers said didn't resonate with you, it's probably because you're fixated on the cross. But the Day of Atonement did not signify Christ's death on the cross. If it did, a lamb would be sacrificed. John 1:29 says:
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, BEHOLD THE LAMB OF GOD, WHICH TAKETH AWAY THE SIN OF THE WORLD.
It does not say:
Behold the GOAT of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
In his role of sin-bearer, Jesus is portrayed as a LAMB. That's because a lamb was sacrificed at the alter of sacrifice which alter symbolised the cross. The goat for the Lord is not bearing the sins because that has already been done at the cross.
Hebrews 7:27
Who needeth NOT DAILY, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for THIS HE DID ONCE, WHEN HE OFFERED UP HIMSELF.
Hebrews 9:28
So Christ was ONCE OFFERED TO BEAR THE SINS of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
This Once was at the alter of sacrifice/on the cross.
On the day of atonement there are no sins laid on the head of the Lord's goat as there is daily on the lamb at the alter of sacrifice. There is no sin in its blood taken into the sanctuary, because All the sins are ALREADY in the sanctuary. They have been carried there daily by the blood of the lamb. The job of the goat is not to BEAR sins, but to CLEANSE sins.
Leviticus 16
18 And he shall go out unto the altar that is before the Lord, AND MAKE AN ATONEMENT FOR IT; and shall take of the blood of the bullock, AND OF THE BLOOD OF THE GOAT, AND put it upon the horns of the altar round about.
19 And he shall sprinkle of the blood upon it with his finger seven times, AND CLEANSE IT, and hallow it FROM THE UNCLEANNESS OF THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL.
Read Leviticus carefully and prayerfully and you'll notice that the Blood of the Lord's goat was used to CLEANSE THE SANCTUARY AND THE PEOPLE. This is God telling us what Jesus is doing AFTER he's taken/borne our sins on the cross. We as sinners are justified, our sins taken away, forgiven, when we accept His sacrifice on the cross. But the sins have been transferred from us to the heavenly sanctuary as Israel's sins were transferred to the earthly sanctuary in the typical service. And just as the earthly priests entered the sanctuary once a year "with the blood of bulls and goats" to "purify" (i.e. cleanse) so Hebrews tells us that Jesus "offered himself without spot to God" to "purge (i.e. cleanse)your conscience from dead works to serve the living God". Hebrews 9: 11-14
Only AFTER the Lord's goat has made atonement for the sins in the sanctuary and the sins of the people, does the scapegoat enter the picture. It has no part in the atonement. Note Leviticus 19:20-21
20 And WHEN HE HATH MADE AN END OF RECONCILING THE HOLY PLACE, and the tabernacle of the congregation, and the altar, HE SHALL BRING THE LIVE GOAT:
21 And Aaron shall lay both his hands upon the head of the live goat, and confess over him all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their transgressions in all their sins, PUTTING THEM UPON THE HEAD OF THE GOAT, and shall send him away by the hand of a fit man into the wilderness:
If the scapegoat was Jesus, then he would be bearing our sins twice - once at the cross (at the alter of sacrifice) and again on the day of atonement. But as you can see from Hebrews, He did that only once.
God is a God of mercy, but He's also a God of Justice. His mercy was demonstrated at the cross. His Justice is shown on the day of atonement when Satan, the scapegoat gets his just rewards.
So why would Satan bear the sins of God's people on his head? (Notice he's not bearing the sins of the whole world as Jesus did but only those confessed sins from the sanctuary). Scripture tells us that he who devise mischief against another, his mischief shall return upon his own head. See for instance just a few of these texts below.
1 Samuel 25:39
And when David heard that Nabal was dead, he said, Blessed be the Lord, that hath pleaded the cause of my reproach from the hand of Nabal, and hath kept his servant from evil: FOR THE LORD HATH RETURNED THE WICKEDNESS OF NABAL UPON HIS OWN HEAD.
1 Kings 2:32
And the Lord shall return his blood UPON HIS OWN HEAD, who fell upon two men more righteous and better than he, and slew them with the sword
Esther 9:25
But when Esther came before the king, he commanded by letters that his (Haman's) wicked device, which he devised against the Jews, SHOULD RETURN UPON HIS OWN HEAD, and that he and his sons should be hanged on the gallows.
Psalm 7:16
14 Behold, he travaileth with iniquity, and hath conceived mischief, and brought forth falsehood.
15 HE MADE A PIT, AND DIGGED IT, AND IS FALLEN INTO THE DITCH WHICH HE MADE.
16 HIS MISCHIEF SHALL RETURN UPON HIS OWN HEAD, and his violent dealing shall come down upon his own pate.
2 Chronicles 6:23
Then hear thou from heaven, and do, and judge thy servants, BY REQUITING THE WICKED, BY RECOMPENSING HIS WAY UPON HIS OWN HEAD; AND BY JUSTIFYING THE RIGHTEOUS, BY GIVING HIM ACCORDING TO HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS.
The day of atonement is also called the day of judgment and the last text tells us exactly what it's for. Satan, who caused God's people to sin, will have those forgiven sins put back on his own head because they belong to him. He will be banished to a desolate place (wilderness) called a BOTTOMLESS PIT in Revelation 20. And we see that
Ecclesiastes 10:8
8 He that diggeth a PIT shall fall into it;
There is much more that can be, and has been said about why the scapegoat cannot be Jesus, but the Bible plainly says ONE goat for the Lord and the OTHER for Azazel. Logically Azazel cannot be for the Lord. Jesus said
Matthew 12:30
He that is not with me is against me.
If one goat is FOR the Lord, the other cannot be FOR the Lord and must therefore be AGAINST Him.
@@chukku3871 Amen. Great breakdown!
@@MarkChupp-j5i
That comment you made is just a pile of nonsense.
How was the feast of unleavened bread misinterpreted? What did he say about the feast that was incorrect?
@@NateH1984 he broke something down all right.. but it's not the Bible!
Thank you, Pastor Myers, for an elaborate submission, clear and thorough, Bible all day. It is the work of the Holy Ghost to convict listeners, God bless you
I invite the critics to read the first few pages of chapter 41 of the book The Great Controversy. Just a word to the critics - its coming soon.
THANK YOU PASTOR MYERS for this Bible all day study😊. I understand much better the feasts. I am SDA. But I needed this study very very much. Everything is crystal clear. I love the TRUTH!❤❤❤❤❤
Thank you for this, Pastor. Very well presented and explained.
Excellent Brother Myers. How beautiful to hear this Great Truth without one single EGW quote. I SO much more prefer to hear a,"thus saith the Lord." It carries much more weight. SDA preachers sadly enough, just about quote their entire sermons from Sister White. I can very easily understand why people, would consider SDAs a cult because "we follow nothing which doesn't bear the EGW stamp ."
I am a dis fellowshipped SDA. But to me the Holy Bible KJV is the ultimate standard by which to measure anything and everything which professes to be truth. For me , no other church preaches this unique message. I heard my father preach this truth from many a pulpit.
So I truly appreciate your "strictly Bible" verses. It just so happens that I was researching this info for 2 people who asked me questions right from M's site. But I insisted to use only Bible verses. And this flawless presentation came up. I learned information that I ' d assumed i knew.
Thank you Brother Myers and may God bless you.
P.S.- i guess you heard about how Dr. Corad Vine was Banned from preaching by the Michigan Union prez. & denounce by the GC and the big wheels of the SDA administration. Dr. Vine preached The Sermon that has rocked the Church to its core and increased what I believe is The Shaking. Pray and support the Truth always.
This has been laid to bed. It's clear and i like that all these feasts don't nullify what happened at the cross.
@SRD1984 If the Day of atonement is pointing to an event after the cross but before the feast of tabernacles how is it representing Christ? The feast of unleavened bread already covered removing sins from people. Each feast has a sacrifice and another event that is not the cross (except for Passover). They all point to a separate event. Pentecost, Trumpets, etc. Where in the future is Jesus sent into something that the wilderness would represent bearing sins? Remember again that Passover already covered Jesus bearing sins.
Crystal clear 🔍
Pastor, that was clear !!
Hey! First! 😂
I haven’t watched the video yet but I bet it was awesome!
Im wishing could hsve known this was on 😢 when aired!💙🙏🙏
The word "war" [in heaven] is translated from the Greek word "polemis" from which we get our English word "polemical". That is, the conflict between God and the rebel angels was conducted more as a "political debate."
Pastor Myers, would you please take into consideration, that not all of us are have a laptop or are even computer savvy. All i have is my smartphone.
So please consider and I literally couldn't get why yelled throughout this otherwise flawless presentation.❤
@Power of the Lamb Since the first four Spring feasts were accomplished back-to-back, how do you explain why the last three Fall feasts don't happen back-to-back in a literal sense with the same spacing of days as the Spring feasts. We believe the feast of trumpets was the midnight cry and the day of atonement began in 1844. But the day of atonement did not last 180 years. How do you explain the literal application in the Spring and protracted application in the fall?
At 1:47:10, you briefly mentioned the Greek, but I did not clearly get your point. How does Paul use hagion hagion? You said he uses it to mean most holy place and the sanctuary...so it can mean both depending on the context. How are you proving from the Greek that it means sanctuary here? Can you break that down a bit more?
The only feast day that's going to be held in the future is written in Zechariah 14 do you know when it takes place
@@MarkChupp-j5i how about you tell us what is that feast in Zecheriah 14.
Please, how do we get the slides?
Awesome!
Jesus & Disciples had the Last Supper on TUESday night, HE was Crucified*Laid in Grave on WEDnesday Before Sundown of Passover Sabbath, in Grave from Wednesday Eve thru the End of WEEKLY Sabbath*Saturday for a FULL 3 Days aka 72 Hours!! Man has Perverted the time saying it was Only PARTS of days!! HE Plainly Said HE would be like Jonah in belly of sea beast....3 DAYS & 3 NIGHTS!!!
Pastor, I appreciate your engagement. I’m glad you addressed Hebrews 9. I don’t agree with you, but I respect your view. I still think that what is said there completely refutes 1844 and therefor the scapegoat as well. I hope you really do realize pastor Myers that us former SDA’s (I’m only recently out after over thirty years in) do not hate SDA’s. Just the opposite is true. I LOVE the Adventist people and still consider them to be my people. But theologically there are problems. The scapegoat teaching robs Christ of the fullness of victory he achieved on our behalf. I know this is not the intent of SDA’s. But it is the implication of the doctrine. And the very reason I personally push back so hard on this doctrine is because I KNOW that the SDA people do not believe Satan is their sin bearer. The scapegoat IS OUR SIN BEARER. I’m trying to wake y’all up to the fact that you are giving people the wrong impression by this teaching. Why not just let it go? That’s what I don’t get. If this is causing a stumbling block for other Christian’s to want to break bread with you, why hold onto it. Is it really that necessary?
@@bryanbriby8191Absolutely, I agree, however I’ve still found SDA theology, including this theology to be more Biblically sound than the standard evangelical theology. Adventism has a wonderful soteriology, namely Arminianism, which is in line with the NT teachings.
Did you ever read the texts about having eyes that do not see and ears that do not hear?
I will presume that you understand that for deception to exit those who are deceived will actually think that they have the truth. While lots of critics accuse Adventists of being deceived they do not have any credible evidence based on scripture to prove their accusations and while you are free to respectfully disagree it would carry more weight if you put out a video explaining why the day of atonement should be different to the other feasts.
Since the SDA church has not experienced the tares being removed by God yet it will be easy to find people you don't like within their congregations so make sure that your decisions are based on scripture alone would be my request.
@@PrairieChristianOutreach well said.i was never brought up in any church.when I came in contact with the Advent msg,it was the closest thing,I've seen to the truth in the bible
The reason he's doing these many videos.. as he knows that if there are.sins (in) Jesus Christ 1 Peter 2:24.. the scapegoat is also on the cross on the same day.. so he has to tell you what happens to those sins (on the same day) .he has to have an answer for that. the first goat does not bear any sins .(the blood pays the price) which is what remission means! Leviticus 16:5 says both goats are for the atonement the sacrifice.. there's two parts to the sacrifice to finish the atonement.. and there's no place in Leviticus that says there is a cleansing of a sanctuary ..takes place . That theology that he says he does not get from Ellen.. that's where it comes from.. everything he's actually teaching is Ellen's teaching. Daniel 8:14.. which has nothing to do with this sanctuary.. and it's not even happened yet.. the misinterpretation of Daniel 8:14, create the devil to be the second goat ..which destroys Isaiah 43:25...so if the first goat has completely an eliminated the sins.. there would be no sin to be able to be placed by Aaron, on the second Goat.. but on the crucifixion day, Jesus is now Aaron! He will agree HE'S the first goat !and Aaron places The Sins on the second GOAT..on the same day to finish the atonement . As required by the sanctuary system.Jesus Christ places the sins upon himself 1 Peter 2:24. (the very first line).. without that you cannot possibly have Isaiah 43:25, ever have happened .that would mean you would never have salvation...
@@MarkChupp-j5i
Wow! Just wow. Different channel same argument. Different channel same nonsense. It is like a broken record. 😂
I am reposting this..
I made a mistake in the number of animals..
How many animals for the day of Atonement (Leviticus 16)?
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How many were sacrificed?
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How many had their blood brought INTO the sanctuary by the High Priest?
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That leaves ONE animal..a goat..that has the sins of tbe people confessed on it and it is TAKEN OUT OF THE CAMP INTO THE WILDERNESS..NEVER TO RETURN..
it's blood IS NOT SHED.. IT DOES NOT DIE...ITS BLOOD DOES NOT GO INTO THE SANCTUARY..
HENCE... the scapegoat, representing Satan..who will die..
Not the same day
Satan thrown into the bottomless pit for a 1,000 yrs
Its kind of like the conference making Dr Vine the scapegoat to avoid any kind admission of wrongdoing.
Yeah but who was the scapegoat and took your place at the cross? something that should have happened to you ..dying for your sins 1st Peter 2:24 ?how did those sins get there? and what did you do with them on the same day?
@@MarkChupp-j5i
Is this like some weird obsession with you? How does what you asked about have anything to do with what the person said in the comment you are responding to? lol
@@JustAMessanger-o7g because he's lessened the value of Jesus Christ !the scapegoat which is the Cornerstone of the whole Bible.. Jesus removing the sins.. why, does SDA not want that to happen for them?
@@MarkChupp-j5i
The word scapegoat in his comment had
nothing to do with the day of atonement. Lol.
Did you even read the comment or you just saw the word “scapegoat” and made another one of your outlandish assumptions?
I am still waiting for you to explain how Jesus fulfilled what happened to the scapegoat. You don’t have to agree it is Satan but you still have to show how it can possibly be Jesus.
@@JustAMessanger-o7g the video is about a scapegoat that's the topic and Daniel 8:14 SDA still hasn't figured out the truth on... that's like saying we don't have to agree that the first Goat is Jesus Christ .....your confession of faith is.. it's the Devil Himself.. there is no room for disagreement.
I don't find any place in the Bible that says the day of atonement is a feast day.. it's listed as a feast day. but not a feast as normally done by the people of Israel .it's a day of affliction.. an Passover week was there for the Feast of unleavened bread.. for those that left Egypt, and they were to commemorate it for that purpose..the lamb is eaten.. in remembrance of their faith in the blood across the doorpost.. in the levitical sanctuary the first Goat Bears no sins ..for the atonement.. the atonement is done by Two Goats for the sacrifice, Leviticus 16:5 ,before it's finished ..both representing Jesus Christ.. what is revealed on the cross 1st Peter 2:24.. otherwise there would be no sins on the cross.. that Goat they do not eat.. they burn it... so the question remains where did those sins go on the cross on the same day?
For real?
Leviticus 23:4 KJVS
These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
This is an inclusive statement. Just like this one:
Leviticus 23:44 KJVS
And Moses declared unto the children of Israel the feasts of the LORD.
They are all feasts.
Yes, the Passover was meant to commemorate their release from Egypt.
But the sacrifice of a lamb on Passover also points to Jesus.
@@JustAMessanger-o7g does it say that human beings are having a feast there like they do on Passover day.. when you do the research there is food presented to the Lord but it doesn't say it goes to the people
@@JustAMessanger-o7g of course it does but they don't eat that goat in Leviticus 16 for a reason so that means the lamb which is crucified on preparation day represent something twofold rather than one
@@MarkChupp-j5i
No. But those two verses I posted say that they are all feasts. Go ahead and keep trying to argue that one. Lol.
PLEASE THINK ...I am a FARMERS DAUGHTER & WIFE, FARMING is in my BONES ...& I KNOW PLAINLY that IN the FIELD & at the VERY TIME of HARVEST, prior to the PURE WHEAT GRAINS being BROUGHT into the STORE HOUSE... that is, the VERY TIME WHEN SHAKING is USED to SIFT the CHARF from the WHEAT, which means then, that the VERY TIME of HARVEST is PRESENTLY UPON US, ... is i't NOT?
GAP OF TIME
Maybe you should ask the critics to explain the purpose of the feast days. What did they represent?🤷🏽. I think that this is the real issue
This scapegoat teaching was on point I appreciate your teaching pastor
Can I get the slides please
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Jesus healed a man born blind. The Pharisees would not accept it. The Pharisees became blind. That's what is happening to the critics unless they humble themselves and accept the truth.
On another note Myles ( a TH-camr) that is always criticising and mocking SDA beliefs has told me he would like a debate with Pr Myers and Dwayne Lemon. Can we make it happen ? 🙏🏼
Myles has debated Adventists before, he refuses to believe anything they say & insists that his understanding of scripture is the only possible explanation.
From what I watched him
he never mocks sda he just States your confession of faith. which is very provable by your own writings.
@@MarkChupp-j5i
He mocks SDA just like you do. Come on now.
@@JustAMessanger-o7g MarkChupp has got to be Mary/Jim/Jamie’s new account.
This person is a liar. They literally respond to their own other accounts while pretending that they are different people. No truth has come out of their mouth.
@@Vladi.G
Oh yea, he has at least 4 accounts. I have seen him make them “talk to each other” as if they are different people. It is kinda hilarious.
And yes, he is not honest with how he converses with us. He is sincere with what he believes, I believe that. His problem is he has
double standards and is hypocritical.
He expects us to answer his questions but ignores ours. He also expects us to show verses that say exactly what we claim but he does not hold himself to that same standard. He trolls SDA channels left and right and then complains that I keep bothering him whenever he says something in ONE channel. He is very disrespectful to us, calls us liars all the time
but complains when he is called a liar.
The worst part is he begins a conversation. We respond. He then gets to a point where he has to put up or shut up and what does he do? He stops talking. He runs.
Here is an example. He constantly bugs us about the 2300 days and that it cannot get from 457BC to 1844AD. I show him how to count years and he ignores it. I also challenge him to go to an online time length calculator and input 457BC and 1844AD and see what he gets. You know this dude has not done that? He ignores avenues to truth that goes against his narrative. That is intellectual dishonesty. That is why I do not respect him. He is all talk but when something is presented with something that he can’t argue, he ignores it. It is pathetic.
Now, I oppose him on this channel at every turn just to give him a taste of his own medicine AND to drive up the comment count. He can’t resist an argument so I use that to help the channel.
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Also, Pastor, please do not stop talking about the scapegoat or other Biblical topics unless God tells you to do so. Otherwise , let God use you.😊🙏🏽
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Psalm 73, incredible! There is more to the sanctuary than Jesus.
Bible all day
No, how could have been?😊
Irrefutable, that's all I have to say about this. Jesus is NOT the expiatory Goat, or, the goat for Azazel.
So how did the sins that are supposed to be yours! the one that removes the sins. the second Goat get in 1st Peter 2:24..? the scapegoat.. is the person that is Accused for what you yourself have done!! it ends up on the scapegoat! The scapegoat took your place
@@MarkChupp-j5i It was removed at the cross, buried with Him (Goat of the Lord). The goat for Azazel has nothing to do with it.
@@MajorGari so you're saying he went to the wilderness Matthew 12:40 to the heart of the Earth on the same day.. who's sins where they? The first Goat (does not bear any sins).. how did they get there?
@@MarkChupp-j5i
Incorrect, the first Goat is for atonement, thus it carried sin when it died. The second goat is not for atonement, it was expelled from God's people. So, unless you're telling me that Jesus will be expelled, we have a problem here. Without shedding of blood, there is no atonement, thus, the goat for azazel is not Jesus, for it's not a sacrifice.
Now, answer me this: What is the High Priest doing after the first goat, the Goat for the Lord, is killed? Understand that and you will understand how the second goat can NOT be Jesus.
@@MajorGari Jesus was expelled he went to the heart of the earth. just like the second goat and he also came back he does everything that spoken of.. but you're missed quoting the verse there's two parts to the atonement. and there's two Goats for the (sacrifice) Leviticus 1610 ,Leviticus 1616, in Leviticus 16:5.. atonement means to complete completion.. of the paid for price.. and the removal of sins.. and even for the (sanctuary.. which has nothing to do with sins .)....it is the entire job from beginning to end... remission means to pay for.. and that's you misinterpreting the use .. use of the word.. there. There is no remission of sins without shedding of blood.. you're not understanding the word meaning in Leviticus 16 Daniel 8:14 is not even happened yet ..if you would understand the prophecy of Daniel 8. you would clearly know what I'm telling you is the truth!!
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