its BECAUSE of twitch, oh and zoe got a free void staff. but he's publicly said he loves the playstyle of AP twitch and once your THAT comfortable on something you love yes you get more 'cracked' at it. but the buffs have been favoring his pool this season. if the nerfs are only Es ratio the playstyle still exists just because you have an ap > TRUE DAMAGE ratio. plus I'm convinced its a yasubros counter.
Curious on your thoughts Pekin if the E changes is going to push AP twitch out of viability or not. I get 30% off max stacks hurts in terms of burst but it seems like it'll still be fine overall, we'll just have to get a few more autos off before we pop the E.
It's generally the tradeoff for doing the damage so slowly. If it didn't do more than conventional means, it'd just straight up be a worse form of DPS.
is there a reason why you didnt put a second point into your ult? Like, is it actually more efficient to max w second and even put some more points into q instead of leveling up r every time you could?
R just gives some ad, no cd reduction, or anything. W gives more damage scaling with ap, Q gives more attack speed, hence more attacks, which are scaling with ap as well.
@@shiah yeah it's still super valuable, having the lower cooldown on w can mean the difference between keeping 6 stacks on someone vs the stacks fizzling out.
Hey guys, I know this video has been out for a lil bit now but I still have a question. Is there a reason why Pekin delayed putting further points into his ult beyond the first? I don't really know much about AP Twitch, and seeing this just confused me. If anyone knows the reasoning behind it, I'd definitely appreciate being enlightened.
I don't play Twitch or watch a lot of Twitch gameplay, but I believe it's because upgrading Twitch ult is not very good on AP twitch. I think it's because Twitch ult scales with AD, not AP so putting points into it would just be useless or minor since you don't have any extra AD that would benefit the ult. You could put points into it because it would deal slightly more AD damage but maxing W before R on AP twitch is optimal since you want that slow to be more powerful. Edit: Twitch ult just gives you straight up extra AD. It doesn't even scale with it lol.
It feels like riot is needing the wrong part of Twitch’s kit. The frustrating part of playing against AP twitch is not that you die to 3 auto + W + E combo, the issue is that it can be done out of stealth. More importantly the most frustrating is when twitch is played as support, because the lack of voice comms, and the fact that he does not need to farm waves, means that it’s very hard to keep track of his location. Riot needs to nerf stealth generally in the game, if they have twitch stealth the same effect as rengar / pyke (an AOE notification to the enemy) it would be significantly less frustrating to play with and the power budget could be allocated elsewhere.
I partly agree with that, but the fact is that Twitch is way too glassy and without enough instant damage or mobility skills to survive that that. He'd just get hunted and popped every time, unlike with Rengar who you have to be wary of. Only by getting to a good flank against unprepared opponents can you get the safe-ish multikills (unless the Twitch is fed out of it's gourd, ofc). If that power budget shift gave Twitch more mobility and some serious innate tankiness (assassin damage would go against his design IMHO), I'd be for that, but that by itself could easily introduce new issues. We wouldn't want a bruiser or Zeri Twitch arc. The scaling nerf isn't ideal, but it's safe and small in scope, which is why I can understand the decision.
9:39 Pekin could have won that fight vs cait+Kayn if he didn't greed his E to get the Thresh kill, Jhin 4th shot would have finished him and then he'd kill Cait with E and then finish Kayn probably
Look at what spells give when you level them up. R only gives ad per rank, not even cooldown or attack speed. So leveling the other spells is just better. For AP twitch that is.
@@ipatchymakouli415 oh thanks i never really played twitch so never really bothered to read what the ult level up does so i just assumed id give cdr on the ability
"I almost didn't buy white bread today because they all look the same. But then I bought some and it was good". See how stupid that sounds? That's you.
PekinWoof you press E too early when you start your fight. Multiple times you just hit them two times and press your E. Even on the last play you could've killed Darius if you didn't press E that early.
“If he goes inside of me I can’t handle it” -Pekin, 2023
"It's fine if you have protection, but I don't sooo"
Thank you so much for this. I was hoping someone would do this (otherwise I would have).
Donkey, get outta mah swamp 😮
That's what she said
Nooo, someone beat me to it!
Pekin Woof, LilliaHoofPics, KirbyWithHair, ControlMageEgirl and now Goodras Hips, you're a man of culture my guy
"Goodra's Hips"
Pekin's summoner names never miss
I hate the reason behind it
Silly Thresh, Twitch is a rat, not a donkey.
''Imagin losing to the donkey." - Pekin, 2023
20:48 "If he goes inside of me I cant handle it" 🤨
HUH
pekin out of context
🏳🌈🤨?
you can tell pekin understands twitch when he says “they’re dead” cause he knows the damage so well! its really impressive
Then give RatIRL a try 🤭
Man I was just rewatching the last twitch vid and this one dropped. Pekin is always on point
Did Pekin play Skarner mid? No.
Lose Streak: 488
Is it just me or is Pekin getting more cracked at the game recently?
He is an elo inflated donkey imo.
Always has been
ee aww
@@wolfy8006 Chadkin Eeaaw
its BECAUSE of twitch, oh and zoe got a free void staff. but he's publicly said he loves the playstyle of AP twitch and once your THAT comfortable on something you love yes you get more 'cracked' at it. but the buffs have been favoring his pool this season. if the nerfs are only Es ratio the playstyle still exists just because you have an ap > TRUE DAMAGE ratio. plus I'm convinced its a yasubros counter.
20:48 “If he goes inside of me, I can’t handle it” -Surprisingly PekinWoof and not Quantum, 2023
Pekin is just on his AP Twitch hyper fixation. Like before it was AP Zeri, now AP Twitch. It is That phase.
the way he didn't listen to karma about pushing out the wave and immediately died. ☠
He's been trying really hard to give us good content and not have the enemy ff15 😏
Bekinwoof would have had more kills and would have told riot to buff him instead. And riot would listen.
Little did the thresh know!
Pekin has an almost infinte champion OCEAN.
Will soon to be expanded by scarner mid!
Curious on your thoughts Pekin if the E changes is going to push AP twitch out of viability or not.
I get 30% off max stacks hurts in terms of burst but it seems like it'll still be fine overall, we'll just have to get a few more autos off before we pop the E.
"ee aww" - Pekin 2023, impression of a donkey
LMFAO
20:46 that guy wouldve tried to go inside of me, and if he goes inside of me, i cant handle it
Thresh was so mad 😭 i love it
I love the AP twitch videos, thanks man!
Great vid and commentary as always! Not gonna lie when I saw this account’s name I died. “Goodras Hips” 💀
"If he goes inside of me I can't handle it" ... same Pekin...same 20:49
18:26 the ward you placed only had 1 hp
Chemtech Dragon Map alternation, farsight orb reduces revealed wards' hp to 1.. it was instantly revealed by enemy team in that scenario.
@@KalladinZit happened simultaneously thanks for the insight
Oh my god that Thresh's rage was fucking delicious.
The amount of shutdown trading this game was so funny
"If he goes inside of me, I can't handle it." Pekin, 2023.
Hey everybody, welcome to the next commentary today we're playing...
Twitch midlane versus a Twisted Fate
Twitch Is my most played this season I think
At least on one of my accounts.
So, I have uh, played quite a bit of it
And he’s gonna be nerfed next patch
"and in the mo'nin, I'm making waffles!"
+36LP in Diamond 1 and this 1/13 Thresh yells after a small nerf to AP Twitch Pekins suddenly falls to Plat on 4 Challenger elo accounts? PEKW
Well he probably doesnt know that its pekin, or even that its a challenger Smurf account at all
for ap twitch its the passive that absolutely gets me, i find it so dumb that it can do so much damage for so long
It's generally the tradeoff for doing the damage so slowly. If it didn't do more than conventional means, it'd just straight up be a worse form of DPS.
20:47 ayoo
donkey mode engaged
19:22 irony lmao
20:49 ayo
I didn't know about PoM working permanently on twitch poison...thanks for the tip pekin!
Petition for Pekin to release PekinMerch
What would it take to get you to play Shen midlane, a la xPetu's recent build?
where can i see the upcoming changes for twitch?
mom wake up new pekinwoof video
18:40 It's hee haw not ee aww but pretty close ngl hahaha. "Imagine losing to a donkey" doesnt even have fingers 😂
"Goodras Hips" ah yes a man of culture 🧐
Runes at 5:16
had to google Goodra, you might be onto something
is there a reason why you didnt put a second point into your ult? Like, is it actually more efficient to max w second and even put some more points into q instead of leveling up r every time you could?
R just gives some ad, no cd reduction, or anything. W gives more damage scaling with ap, Q gives more attack speed, hence more attacks, which are scaling with ap as well.
@@shiah Points in W reduce the cooldown and increase the base slow %, but don't affect damage at all
Twitch's ult is like Trynd ult - not important to level up past the first point.
@@hayd3n98 right. Still, more w in the same amount of time = more dmg
@@shiah yeah it's still super valuable, having the lower cooldown on w can mean the difference between keeping 6 stacks on someone vs the stacks fizzling out.
Goodra's Hips is such a funny name lol
Hey guys, I know this video has been out for a lil bit now but I still have a question. Is there a reason why Pekin delayed putting further points into his ult beyond the first? I don't really know much about AP Twitch, and seeing this just confused me. If anyone knows the reasoning behind it, I'd definitely appreciate being enlightened.
I don't play Twitch or watch a lot of Twitch gameplay, but I believe it's because upgrading Twitch ult is not very good on AP twitch. I think it's because Twitch ult scales with AD, not AP so putting points into it would just be useless or minor since you don't have any extra AD that would benefit the ult. You could put points into it because it would deal slightly more AD damage but maxing W before R on AP twitch is optimal since you want that slow to be more powerful.
Edit: Twitch ult just gives you straight up extra AD. It doesn't even scale with it lol.
Yeah Pekin levels it up on accident sometimes and always groans when he does
@@d4rren09 Thank you so much for the explanation! I appreciate it! 🥰
i love this twitch chroma its so cute ;D looking forward to seeing u getting all these kills :O
The kayn went way too hard to get inside, but if he got inside Pekin couldn't handle it
Pretty cool that you can play League with the hooves and all.
runes at 5:12
Is AP twitch still going to r viable after the nerfs?
"ee aww" LMFAO
Wp Pekin!
Yay new video
I wish my teammates called me and my other teammates "just" donkey, haha. Usually it's umm.. A little more spicy let's say.
Best Donkey in all of league.
I loved it, mom tryed but she's not really into league.
But Kayn might be into your mom.
It feels like riot is needing the wrong part of Twitch’s kit. The frustrating part of playing against AP twitch is not that you die to 3 auto + W + E combo, the issue is that it can be done out of stealth. More importantly the most frustrating is when twitch is played as support, because the lack of voice comms, and the fact that he does not need to farm waves, means that it’s very hard to keep track of his location. Riot needs to nerf stealth generally in the game, if they have twitch stealth the same effect as rengar / pyke (an AOE notification to the enemy) it would be significantly less frustrating to play with and the power budget could be allocated elsewhere.
I partly agree with that, but the fact is that Twitch is way too glassy and without enough instant damage or mobility skills to survive that that. He'd just get hunted and popped every time, unlike with Rengar who you have to be wary of. Only by getting to a good flank against unprepared opponents can you get the safe-ish multikills (unless the Twitch is fed out of it's gourd, ofc). If that power budget shift gave Twitch more mobility and some serious innate tankiness (assassin damage would go against his design IMHO), I'd be for that, but that by itself could easily introduce new issues. We wouldn't want a bruiser or Zeri Twitch arc. The scaling nerf isn't ideal, but it's safe and small in scope, which is why I can understand the decision.
9:39 Pekin could have won that fight vs cait+Kayn if he didn't greed his E to get the Thresh kill, Jhin 4th shot would have finished him and then he'd kill Cait with E and then finish Kayn probably
This game had so many greedy misplays, it was so funny to watch.
Pekin plat 3 confirmed.
All hail the algorithm!
Why you didn't level up ult?
Goodras Hips 💀
ee aw 💓
🐐🐐🐐
Goodras Hips 😂😂
could you do a TF, Diana or Talon video?
Time for a name change, maybe PekinHeeAww
This TF skin is beautiful
did he show his runes this game?
20:47 huh?
Nice game!
anyone knows why he doesnt put more points in his ult at levels 11 and 16? he did the same last ap twitch video and now im just curous why
Look at what spells give when you level them up.
R only gives ad per rank, not even cooldown or attack speed. So leveling the other spells is just better. For AP twitch that is.
@@ipatchymakouli415 oh thanks i never really played twitch so never really bothered to read what the ult level up does so i just assumed id give cdr on the ability
20:49 Kind of sus, ngl.
Donkey is hee haw
200k! 200k! 200K!
I'm surprised literally no one has commented on the calculations at the start of the video lmao
Donkey sounds type challenge in the coms
Almost didn't click the video cause the thumbnail looked liked all your other twitch videos, good video tho.
Why does the thumbnail matter? It's another video uploaded by Pekinwoof. If you want to watch it, then watch it. Who gives a damn about the thumbnail?
"I almost didn't buy white bread today because they all look the same. But then I bought some and it was good". See how stupid that sounds? That's you.
The thumbnail looking practically the same made me think it was an old video that I already watched
20:49.
Was that tf bronze or something lol i just watched the 6:23 thing
Wooooo🎉
Separate comment: think maybe something is up with your mic in this one Pekin
Could you timestamp me points you think it sounds weird + a video from the past that you believe sounds normal
I think I hear some reverb now that you mention it, but I wouldn't have noticed if I hadn't read your comment. it's apparent at the end I think
I just noticed it right at the start compared to the start of the previous vid
what i learned this game is that if kayne can "smite" your "crown" to get inside you and if you have no protection you might die
😂
Where is Aurelion Sol, Pekin?? 🥺
Hee Haw is donkey, lol XD
where the stream pekinnnn!
Mom says hi!
mb touched it was a rat irl video
goodras hips
Hee haw league.
This seems like bronze tf were the other players in this game doing
200k !
Imagine lose to a donkey 🐴
Was it on purpose, that he did not level his ult?
Yes, ult only adds ad and he's ap so more damage to level everything else
PekinWoof you press E too early when you start your fight. Multiple times you just hit them two times and press your E. Even on the last play you could've killed Darius if you didn't press E that early.
Middlesticks
For algorithm ✌🏽
have your mom watch the video xD :D
eee haw