Charging and the Wunderbox | Tech Talks | Lucid Motors
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- How does #LucidAir add 300 miles of range in under 22 minutes? In the latest episode of Tech Talks, our SVP of Product and Chief Engineer, Eric Bach, does a deep dive on the Wunderbox - the heart of the world’s most advanced and compatible EV charging system - only from Lucid.
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I love that actual practical engineering is being placed front and center in the EV revolution. It’s so satisfying.
Unbelievable! These guys Peter and Eric are true engineers! This battery tech is unmatched! I also just bought more shares. These guys are gonna make us rich!
🙏🙏🙏
@babyrocko1908 say that again.
Uh ohh
So glad to be working at Lucid now
Just incredible still cannot believe this is the first Lucid vehicle, amazing really amazing. Once Lucid solves mass manufacture will become one of the industries new generation legacy autos.
Lucid began as Atieva just over five years ago. Initially they were designing batteries and all the power electronics to supply OEMs as the EV revolution took hold. As we now know, five years ago the OEMs were not impressed with EVs and were happy to just buy off the shelf generic parts, so the name changed to Lucid, and they began designing a car.
The Air's design and development has been ongoing for some years now. Lucid has a viable plan for growth and experienced management in place. Phase 2 of their factory expansion is well under way in Arizona.
since lucid makes things in house,i predict them having it's own purpose made battery plant making lucid cells for their cars and maybe other OEMs.
@@andromeda9340
'Lucid sources batteries from LGES and Samsung SDI. In August, U.S. President Joe Biden signed an executive order aimed at making half of all new vehicles sold in 2030 electric.'
From Reuters
With every Tech Talk I fall more in love with my Lucid Air.
Excellent video! I love how you do NOT shy away from using some simple math and charts to help explain your points. Your series of videos on the technical points of your vehicles are some of the best videos I have seen on youTube! Keep up the good work.
You people at LUCID really know how to impress a fellow. I am an old mechanic and really appreciate this technical presentation. This has really answered a lot of my own questions about your vehicle and very much has drawn me closer to your technology. The bidirectional power flow has a great use for my application. Thank you and I am looking forward to your next technical exposé.
why?, you are not allowed to repair any of their cars
Eric: Now I'm gonna introduce two formulas from high school physics that we all remember.
Me: Forgot high school physics as soon as I stopped having high school physics as a class.
these guys really know their stuff. Very optimistic about Lucid's future :)
Thank you, Mr. Bach, for the opportunity to allow a very nontechnically inclined person such as myself to comprehend (in a very limited aspect) the basics of EV charging and the related systems.
LET'S GO! LUCID FAMILY🙋♂️ ❤🥳🎉🎉🎉😉✌
No
good Job Eric.
What's in the booooooooooooooox
Honestly though I'm excited to see this technology spread around!
I ordered myself a Lucid Air Pure about 6 weeks ago. Not sure when I’ll get it but I’m very excited. We now have two ford lightnings of many ordered for my solar business. I will be trading my mach E for the Air Pure and my gf will be getting a Rivian R1S. Exciting times and I feel confident that I will absolutely love the vehicle. Thank you Lucid
Just took delivery today. Amazing!!!!
Lucid Motors Redefining the EV Sector.
Well done!
Thanks for this informative video!
Great presentation Mr Bach and Lucid team! The Air really is packed with innovations. Can’t wait to see what comes out next for Lucid!
I love these series from Lucid. Keem em coming
brilliantly explained!
Thank you. This was wonderful.
Looking forward to the suitcase sized motor video with the transmission inside. Incredible engineering!
Love what you guys are doing at Lucid! Please add a second charge port on the curb side of the vehicle. Seeing how the Wunderbox is situated it should be quite easy to add a connection on the opposite side. Even if it’s only level 2 it’d be useful. It’d be great for curb side chargers or give drivers the choice of parking nose-in or tail-in. Thanks!
Simply Amazing
WOW! During a disaster I can now go off the grid with my LUCID!!! I can power my house! INCREDIBLE!
Excellent video. Glad to meet another engineer from Lucid's deep trove of talent. I love that Lucid speaks to us as adults in these _Tech Talk_ videos. Clearly there are details they are not yet ready to share, but I'm dying to see the inside of the drive unit. I'm unwilling to disassemble my Air GT though.
There's a tech talk scheduled about the transmission and one about the suitcase sized engine coming.
@@Babyrocko1908 Thanks! Thrilled to hear that is coming!
The Transmission is *Inside the motor* ! I don't mean just in the same housing, but the differential appears to be actually _inside the rotor_ . When I saw that for just a couple frames in the background of the second Tech Talks video. I was left speechless.
That right there is true innovation, taking existing technology and reimagining how it might be better. I'm sure there is quite a bit more to this story. For instance, they seem to have already "inspired" parts of Mahle's new motor. I can't wait to see more!
Do a tech talk on your motors already! I’m on the edge of my seat!
The tech tachs are very well done. So are the sales locations. I visited the one in Palm Beach, Florida and was educated about their battery technology in the process. The 500 mile range has been independently proven, as I saw in independent test on the beltway in Phoenix (TH-cam post). I hope the Lucid Air is very successful.
Big respect to these guys, I really learned a lot.
Awesome Technology. Love what Lucid has done.
it would be awesome if lucid ever decides to make their own in house battery cell for not only their products but for other OEMs. it would actually be a huge win for everyone.
Since this video is 26 min long, you should have put the vehicle on charge in the background and at the end of the video, you can show that it did in fact charge under 22 min. Would have made the video more interesting
PS. You can hire me for more interesting marketing tips like this 😉
wonderful. I can't wait the next
Love it thanks for all informations
Lucid ESS is gonna be lit!!!!
Great tech!
Very useful knowledge thks
I am so glad we ordered a Pure for delivery this Winter. Mr. Bach (my favorite composer...) mentioned a heater supply connection. Will heat be supplied by a heat pump? My dealer in Palm Beach, FL was "99%" sure that that was the case.
Glad to see you guys talking about the wunderbox!
What is next?
How about discussing the lidar system? Given the major market leader insists that lidar is unnecessary, can Lucid produce a video that explains dream drive pro, how lidar is leverage, and what advantage lidar can provide over radar/camera based systems?
It's really mind blowing how new EV company managed to make this high tech system!
Wow....I am in shock, will all this information.
Please also consider making next tech talk about the Lucid external design
Bidirectional Wunderbox explaining the reverse power flow as a mini-power station for V2X (V2Vehicle, V2Home, V2Buisiness) starts at 23" and is fascinating! One day I'll be able to help my Tesla friends with lesser battery capability to be able to keep up with me by lending them juice 'mid-flight'!
One question that I would add is whether a Lucid could power an external water pump, a turning lathe or similar? That is to say could a Lucid power a remote workshop?
Can’t wait for Lucid SUV
is that Quantum Gray color for the Lucid in the background on the right side?
Really cool videos. I love these Lucid Tech Talks! I learn so much about the incredible detail and engineering innovation it took to build this car. Can't wait to buy my own Lucid car someday!
Love the bidirectional charging!
from my experience working and learning the OBC design from other vendors, I have to say Lucid one is the most compact and elegant degisn that I have seen, it's probably the benchmark product for other OEM to learn, not just the design but the its features as well
Amazing. I’m all in this IPO and want a Lucid Air!!!
Best car Company on Earth. THIS is the future of ev. Proud shareholder since CCIV.
CCIV gang!!! I should’ve sold at peaks tho, but hoping the stock can buy the car in 2025
These videos are so good. I hope the batteries will still be ok in 10- 15 years when I'll have the money to buy it
Please make a video on power electronics switching animation and its processor communications.
There was a footnote in one part of the presentation that stated that the 900VDC architecture is NOT part of all Lucid vehicles. Is the Air Pure slated to include the 900V architecture, or is the non- 900V architecture to be applied to something else?
I have since learned that the Lucid Air Pure uses a 740 VDC architecture. It is still better than a Tesla, but not as good (for the reasons mentioned in the video) as the Lucid Air Touring or Gran Touring.
In 17:58, the fuse is rated as 800V while the battery can see 924V. Is that a safety gap?
Nice
This channel is the definition of quality over quantity.
Nicely done!
V2X is so well integrated it will doubtless become the bench mark for EV going forward.
Using the same device for AC-to-DC onboard charging, DC-to-AC for export power, and ~400 V DC to ~900 V DC for lower-voltage DC chargers is an excellent use of components.
Great Video as well as a great product. Wished there was a LUCID 'LITE' coming . . . the 25KUSD entry vehicle from Lucid
With the same wonderbox, it can charge the 25k car in 10 minutes, because it will have a much smaller battery. 200 mile range should be sufficient and with the lighter, cheaper and more efficient Lucid motor, its battery capacity and therefore it's weight and cost should be smaller as well.
Excellent part of German Engineering - weiter so ! Dipl.-Ing. D.Harpers
I felt like I had bought the one for myself and was learning how to use it.
Is this car compatible for the gulf middle east weather?
Did you mention how long it takes to fully charge the batteries with h2v (home to vehicle)
The battery range is much greater than what other EVs have, but the amount that you drive per day isn't going to be much different if at all. So it depends on how many miles you drive. It's likely to be under an hour each night, and I try to sleep far more than that. You can add up to 80 miles of range per hour, so 30 minutes should be more than enough for most people.
Even if you come home with a nearly depleted battery, and charging starts at 11 pm, by 5 am you'd have at least 480 miles of range. If you came home with more than 40 miles of range, you'd be charged, but I doubt that most people who return from a trip long enough to go through almost 500 miles of range is going to get up at 5 am to take another 500 mile trip. But even if you do, it's possible. You should get more sleep though. More realistically if you just came back from a trip, an hour charge would be overkill for the next day's typical commute. And you'd typically have more than a few hours to charge.
Will the Air Pure still have V2X and what is the maximum AC output in that mode?
Yes, it will have the same functionality but less battery packs. That might affect output though since I do not believe it will have the 924v they mentioned as the Pure has lower rear passenger floor due to less battery packs.
Lucid is undeniably very advanced, but regarding the European market, needs to come up with an anti tesla 3 hatchback & a crossover build on the same underpinnings in order to hit the market!
won me over from a model s .. didn't say I sold it.. just getting a LUCID next 2go alongside.. CHARGE ON!
Hoping that the future V2H home powering capability will work with the Tesla Universal Charger released in October 2023 with Magic Dock and Tesla Gateway 1.0 for Solar and Powerwalls - already have that setup and would like to keep that wall connector which supposedly also supports bi-directional charging
This is an engineers dream...
I would like to see V2H technology be used on a daily basis versus power outage (emergency) only. This would eliminate the need for batteries with a solar panel system...
This will affect the life of the car batteries, as the number of charging cycles is one of the most important factors for the longevity of electric cars
But home batteries are usually used from cheaper materials. It's okay. After 10-12 years, changing the home batteries will not be expensive.
The 10 kW DC-to-DC converter to supply the refrigerant compressor and heater with only 400 V (which they call "medium voltage") is interesting - apparently it was cheaper or more practical to add this component than to get the compressor and heater built for them to run on the traction battery voltage.
👍👏
What are the max kw outputs on each of the various output options....V2V, V2H, V2B?
Did i miss how much power the Lucid can put out on the V2x/h scenarios?
I think it will do it as AC not DC
@@i0001w I got that but whats the max it can output?
What beautifull car build by a beatifull company and from my perspective not a evil one like the others!
This is nuts, the entire scene looked like a green screen 3D model, and then Eric just walks there and demonstrates V2V with the vehicles that were in the background.
WONDERFUL! GO L U C I D
There is the owner perspective and then there is the shareholder ‘get rich quick’ perspective .
How many fast charging cycles allowed in the life of the vehicle?
Donno
I'm just not clear on how we TELL the lucid to give power to our house... or keep it for our planned drive!!
Pretty silly to compare "active" rectification vs "traditional" diode rectification. No modern electronics rectify with diodes, lol.
Wunderbox, a so nice German description. Nice Box, still quite big for the technology inside, but... far away from that what the competitors are offering.
Can you use a Telsa charger?
May be possible by the end of 2022 if Tesla opens up their charging stations as reported!
Donno
commendable V2X feature! Tesla should offer this functionality as huge batteries are a waste if the car is not being used.
If you get solar panels at your home that means you can transfer power to work or wherever you bring the car and never pay for power. so ingenious
{>>" # Fast charging very important (( ' but what is the maximum voltage where not hotter the battery how not heating? ' )) ";}
7:55 kudos to Lucid for being a rare company that acknowledges EVs actually do use fossil fuels BUT the solar panel free energy is misleading. Lithium batteries are enormously carbon-intensive to produce and they have a cycle life limit which is going to be partially used every time you charge regardless if it's Solo or fossil fuel based so this needs to be in the math, especially since your scenario literally involves a remote recharge. Solar panels also have a finite lifespan and are carbon-intensive to produce. Not "zero" at all.
Why is it called the wunderbox? 2:49
Why not use GaN instead of SiC for charging? Much more power efficient…
What's the GaN acronym full name?
@@3nityC gallium nitride GaN vs silicon carbide SiC
Afaik SiC transistors are usually rated for a higher current compared to GaN. Also, GaN is more expensive of course.
GaN is good for max like 500V but Lucid is 924V
dude reminds me of David Coulter
You can save 1 kWh in every charge with the 800V system .
The future is 800V .
800V supercharger are expensive but people like It because 800 is more than 400 .
HALLO FROM 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦!!!! will the european spec cars be available to order???
Cars can be ordered in Germany today. They say the rest of Europe soon. the hard (expensive) part will be putting service and support locations and people in place. It may be gradual expansion of availability. That is my guess.
all the hardwares are great, but what about the software?
if it's not innovative and reliable, the concept would be useless.
i hope there's going to be a video about that ☺️
Nice video but any reason why then Lucid offers only 100k miles warranty on the battery while Tesla offers 120k miles of warranty on their batteries?
What can we accomplish with a 20 ft. sized container OPS, using Lucid's integrated battery technology.? Probably run an entire Tesla giga factory for a couple days.
I’d love to see lucid making roads too, for self driving. I can see it now Lucid roads where it can charge wirelessly through network of smart roads. Metal detecting from car to road in wires constructed in the floor to keep the car centered in lane.
That unnecessarily massive charge port goes against everything Lucid stands for.
Amazing everyone is sleeping on lucid it’s hilarious
Than fooling on Tesla
Electrify America just sucks so bad
The Flux Box..