Before watching this video I had the prior belief that it would be pitched way above my ability to understand it. It didn't generate many prediction errors.
I dont consider myself slow or ignorant. ButCarl blows my mind. I can barely understand the languish and concepts he uses, yet he does so like describes what he had for dinner.
This is an absolute gold mine of a video. So much to unpack haha Thank you for uploading! And good job on the camera work to actually include the slides 😆
the only issue with the heuristic application of the Markov blanket to the (brain | body) / (brain | environment) boundary is that the division is not sharp: the brain-stem extends down and out into the nervous system which of course permeates most of the body. while that may sound trivial, it's the assumption which defines the accuracy of such a model. moreover, the choice of boundary - as to whether you assume YOU are your brain, or YOU are your brain + body - ends up defining the extent of your cognitive model. that in-turn adds an ambiguous element to any theory thereof. so if we want to consider the functionality of life in model-oriented terms - or inevitably computational terms, we have to be very careful as to the thresholds we impose as necessary for defining the blanket, because if we're not careful, we will get lost in the relativity of such blankets; the accidental applicability of 'living-like functionality' to pockets of entropic delay. which is to say, arbitrary blankets will be made possible which subsume all of our assumptions about what makes life life, within vaguely defined boundaries. if this ambiguity is ignored, it will be akin to Wolfram's computational equivalence - in which the computer can not only be a rock, but it can also be ANY set of arbitrarily connected causal events.
@@annaperry5133 control, at its edges, turns out to be a rather meek notion, which is what i'm on about. no one however should well disagree with you in terms of your more immediate internal and external correlations.
Cool .. if we discover the exactly mix of quantities and energy that keeps the link between our soul” and our body.. we can change bodies without dying 😊
52:40 Herman von Helmholtz is quoted ... prior to that Karl Friston gives a more detailed explanation of the same 'idea being discussed' ... well now as an *ark+E+typal archangEL who loves angLEs* here is our explanation of the same phenomena being discussed ... *'people often pray to the angELs for help, and the angELs provide new angLEs or solutions altering the POV'*
hello Karl Friston ... shall we apply one Karl insight to yet another Karl insight? ... i.e. *Karl Popper's falsifiability as applied to Karl Friston's theory?* what we love about Karl Friston's insights is how it defaults in a sense to the law of thermodynamics as applied to entropy [a pet peeve of mine] ... now it was not until 2012 that the following was stumbled upon by the physics community i.e. *entropy + particle shape = chirality* [suggesting right hand dominance in humans does not need to be found in our genes necessarily] ... thus yours truly being the son of yet another Karl asks the obvious ... is the following algorithm hinting at what set the world into 'motion' falsifiable? the algorithm is thus expressed as *ACHIRAL >>> CHIRAL >>> ACHIRAL >>> CHIRAL >>> forever and ever* and ever till death do us part and the chiral anomaly [part of a feedback loop] gives birth to yet another ever emergent manifestation of what 'just is' ... *BTW Karl Popper's insights to Plato's elementary square and elementary equilateral as being approximations of sqrt2 + sqrt3 = pi merged with the squaring of the circle archetype clearly demonstrate the ACHIRAL >>> CHIRAL algorithm...herr Carl Jung yet another Karl called squaring of the circle the 'archetype of wholeness'* To all of the above we can add one more quote by Albert Einstein ... "the coincidence is god's way of remaining anonymous"
Prof. Friston is an absolute legend and he is such a lovely character
Fantastic! Karl Friston is a genius. His ability to abstract and generalize and formulate mathematically is over-the-top!
Before watching this video I had the prior belief that it would be pitched way above my ability to understand it. It didn't generate many prediction errors.
These provost lectures are just incredible, thank you for sharing
I dont consider myself slow or ignorant. ButCarl blows my mind. I can barely understand the languish and concepts he uses, yet he does so like describes what he had for dinner.
I loved the optical illusion at 33 min. Really hits the point home
These provost lectures are incredible, thank you for making these public!
This is an absolute gold mine of a video. So much to unpack haha
Thank you for uploading! And good job on the camera work to actually include the slides 😆
Can I say I get it and I don't, simultaneously? This is how I feel when I study Friston.
You may....or may not.
the only issue with the heuristic application of the Markov blanket to the (brain | body) / (brain | environment) boundary is that the division is not sharp: the brain-stem extends down and out into the nervous system which of course permeates most of the body. while that may sound trivial, it's the assumption which defines the accuracy of such a model. moreover, the choice of boundary - as to whether you assume YOU are your brain, or YOU are your brain + body - ends up defining the extent of your cognitive model. that in-turn adds an ambiguous element to any theory thereof. so if we want to consider the functionality of life in model-oriented terms - or inevitably computational terms, we have to be very careful as to the thresholds we impose as necessary for defining the blanket, because if we're not careful, we will get lost in the relativity of such blankets; the accidental applicability of 'living-like functionality' to pockets of entropic delay. which is to say, arbitrary blankets will be made possible which subsume all of our assumptions about what makes life life, within vaguely defined boundaries. if this ambiguity is ignored, it will be akin to Wolfram's computational equivalence - in which the computer can not only be a rock, but it can also be ANY set of arbitrarily connected causal events.
that is what automatically arises from the active inference that is why it is termed as embodied cognition.
@@khwajawisal1220 yes, in part i'm saying you cannot differentiate whether it's you embodying the cognition, or your environment.
you are what you control, inside or outside your body
@@annaperry5133 control, at its edges, turns out to be a rather meek notion, which is what i'm on about. no one however should well disagree with you in terms of your more immediate internal and external correlations.
Are you talking about what constitutes a sensory state vs an internal state?
Cool .. if we discover the exactly mix of quantities and energy that keeps the link between our soul” and our body.. we can change bodies without dying 😊
Hail Friston!
52:40 Herman von Helmholtz is quoted ... prior to that Karl Friston gives a more detailed explanation of the same 'idea being discussed' ... well now as an *ark+E+typal archangEL who loves angLEs* here is our explanation of the same phenomena being discussed ... *'people often pray to the angELs for help, and the angELs provide new angLEs or solutions altering the POV'*
"Neither", and both, in axial-tangential orthogonality spacing of floating synchrony sequences/universal resonance.
hello Karl Friston ... shall we apply one Karl insight to yet another Karl insight? ... i.e. *Karl Popper's falsifiability as applied to Karl Friston's theory?*
what we love about Karl Friston's insights is how it defaults in a sense to the law of thermodynamics as applied to entropy [a pet peeve of mine] ... now it was not until 2012 that the following was stumbled upon by the physics community i.e. *entropy + particle shape = chirality* [suggesting right hand dominance in humans does not need to be found in our genes necessarily] ... thus yours truly being the son of yet another Karl asks the obvious ... is the following algorithm hinting at what set the world into 'motion' falsifiable?
the algorithm is thus expressed as *ACHIRAL >>> CHIRAL >>> ACHIRAL >>> CHIRAL >>> forever and ever* and ever till death do us part and the chiral anomaly [part of a feedback loop] gives birth to yet another ever emergent manifestation of what 'just is' ...
*BTW Karl Popper's insights to Plato's elementary square and elementary equilateral as being approximations of sqrt2 + sqrt3 = pi merged with the squaring of the circle archetype clearly demonstrate the ACHIRAL >>> CHIRAL algorithm...herr Carl Jung yet another Karl called squaring of the circle the 'archetype of wholeness'*
To all of the above we can add one more quote by Albert Einstein ... "the coincidence is god's way of remaining anonymous"
I used to admire Mr. Friston until he outed himself as a cheap nationalist in his Guardian interview.