Okay, I guess my sarcasm level wasn't quite high enough on the Raid Shadow Legends bit-I will not accept sponsorship dollars from any company I don't trust/support (and I don't trust/support Plarium). Lambda is this video's sponsor, and they are awesome. They also have GPUs that work with their computers. I'm still trying to get one working on a Pi :D
ZFS requires as much RAM as you can get. And ZFS compression can chew whatever CPU you have. Also, compressed and uncompressed ARC can make a difference for underpowered systems.
7:53 Good to know that was a goof. Although next time you use that one (or one like it), hold your nose and force a deeper voice-- with your normal speaking voice the bit fell victim to Poe's Law.
Same here. Mine has been running for about 4 years. Skating on thin ice with a single drive. But I just bought a R-pi 4 and a pair of 3T portable drives to build version 2.0.
@@gordonreeder3451 i won a raspi 4 a little while back, so it set it up with a single 2tb hdd that I had for some reason, and ive been using it as a kodi box mostly. Its not been running continuously for very long, i need to restart it relatively often, but its been serving me well for a year or two now
Take the sponsorships and have fun. You're every bit as fun and interesting as those other big guy channels. You're no Wendell, but those guys don't have a red shirt Jeff, either.
Paused the video to say this. I LOVE this advertisement segue with the timer and everything! I know people can't always have completely relevant adverts, but when they are they are still kind of jarring. This one actually confused me as I wondered what the timer was for because the advert itself was so contextually linked to the content! Top, top work there Mr Geerling
This channel, and Explaining Computers are the two channels that have expanded my Pi horizons over the past couple of years, so many projects planned now.
0:34 THANK YOU for the timer. This should be mandatory on YT (and I don't always skip sponsor spots because sometimes people have a genuinely good product, it's just better to know when they end)
@@Aruneh Makes sense, as he doesn't have advertisements blowing though the wazoo just to deliver his material. Just a simple crate or project package shows up and he tackles it. LTT might as soon well be a large daytime Linus Truman Tech Show.
Subject: How to conceive how hardy a raspberry pi can interface with a ton of NAS storage using only 20watts in a compact form factor. Expectations: The board has to last a long time or you want a quick off the shelf price well within budget and high output isn't what your interests are. So, this was a great video! Not only did it show if the top shelf storage devices could work with the raspberry pi as if you were largely concerned about space, modularity and a near unlimited private storage network on a minimalist agenda,, but to consume less than 20 watts. I really enjoyed the review on this RaspberryPi device.
I loved the sarcasm regarding the next sponsor :D Also, send Anthony a shirt, he’d probably appreciate it considering he seems to like to dabble in Linux stuffs :)
Jeff, great video! I love it when I see someone trying to push the limits into the insane. This is where we learn and break down faulty thinking. Keep up the good work.
Jeff awesome video! Especially because of all the documentation you keep providing us for these 'niche' use cases. I'd love to hear your take on using old enterprise disposed thin clients to set up a storage server like this one. I know you're the pi guy and that a video would come with natural biases, but would still be awesome to see
I actually used to use such PCs for a few projects, but the problem I had was the chassis was always too small (and expansion too limited) to have too much fun without ending up having something resembling a mini-tower, just without the nice mini-tower all-in-one-case design :(
Man it’s awesome to see your progress as a technology knowledge advocate, no matter how seemingly “trivial”. Been subscriber since you reviewed some cheap lapel microphones many years ago. Keep the enjoyable content coming!
I think one potential real use-case could be as a NAS or as part of a "homelab" for a digital nomad, i.e. someone who lives out of a van or travel trailer. Power consumption is a big deal, especially when you're off the grid. Having so much space but sipping power compared to just about any other implementation makes this a potential solution rather than just a fun experiment.
Agreed. I’ve been spending months at a time in my 30ft class A. I don’t have the luxury of full time unlimited power like I do at home. Everything I use in the RC has to be low power as possible. I’d seriously consider building one of these, maybe 20TB or so.
This looks really cool! I ran my old Pi 4 with Dual HDDs in BTRFS Raid 1. It worked well. Got nearly a gigabit on seq read and writes using nfs. SSH was also not that slow anymore. I think older Pis were heavily limited when any kind of encryption was wrapped and usually were what keept speeds under 3MB/s. These benchmarks were most interesting for me since my most convenient transfers were usually with SSH or a browser. So encryption was the limiting factor then.
Hey this is an awesome rig for an ultra powerful but super power efficient and compact proxmoxpi build! I know at least one RV-owning friends would love to have this to help with his TH-cam travel channel!
If you take the sponsorship, you're only allowed to mention them on videos about RAID or the /etc/shadow file. Their sponsorships show up in some of the strangest places. I guess it's a spray and pray ad campaign? Also, +1 on the idea for videos about ZFS
Worked on something like this a number of years ago. There are a large number of memory crossings (data moved CPU Memory) for SMB. We rewrote/extended bits of the Linux network and file-system stacks so the CPU didn't touch the data unless necessary. This gave a huge performance boost for the slower disks/CPU/memory of that era.
That Taco board is awesome. You could probably build a decent NAS if you setup like 3-4 RPIs with their own boards then raid them together via network protocols like iSCSI. you would probably need something more powerful than a RPI to act as the SAN head though. But this board could be a building block to building a huge SAN for decently cheap.
Jeff, where would computing be if there weren't people like you to do all the things that some may call "stupid" or "pointless"? Computing is as much about fun and pushing things as it is about making life easier work wise. So everyone, go and do stupid and pointless things with tech! It's fun and awesome!
Those SSDs would be crazy to just go out and purchase but The concept of having a low-powered server built out of SSDs you just had. As a video editor there are a lot of times that I could use just having 20 gigs of stuff just easily available LAN capable out of basically spare parts plus a little would be really fantastic. Like a client asks for something random I've done in the past. Or overnighted a hotel and you want to ingest and clean up all your cards and not fill up your laptop. Some of the photography solutions out there for Wi-Fi ingesting: you can drop $1,000 without the usability of a cool board like that. Thank you so much for doing this research definitely going to look forward to purchasing myself one of these boards as soon as they come out.
Yes raid shadow legends sponsorship would be awesome. I wonder if someone from LTT ever helped them out with those drives. I will try to contact them for you red shirt, Jeff.
"Jeff explains ZFS" would be an incredible video. There are lots of ZFS videos out there but they're all for Linux nerds. I'm sure yours would be a great step in between.
Yeah 99% of the time when I go view a ZFS video (like most Linux videos, too), it seems focused on minutiae that you'd have to already understand a lot of Linux and storage terminology just to get the video. I hope to do a video on it.
@@JeffGeerling Well ZFS is not your regular FS, it's highly specialized and enterprise oriented with much more than just a FS, almost no raid tool or volume manager is for newbies or home users. I'm sure you could simplify it to better explain the concepts to the average Joe, but a lot of advanced storage knowledge IS required to succeed and take advantage of ZFS, otherwise you're better off with the likes of btrfs or xfs + LVM for snapshots and basic functions not enterprise or enthusiast related. But hey, I'd love to see you dig deep into the ZFS rabbbit hole though! And giving it a new perspective or simplifying a little the concepts for mere mortals.
Hi, Jeff, with all the small projects, we would like to see a paper based "cookbook" compilation of these technical performance journey. Very interesting especially for those individuals who wants to dig deep in performance.
"Looker close" Heh :) I love those CM4 boards! Actually I hope to see an Thin Mini ITX board eventually as I have such a case sitting in my storage, even with an integrated power supply (Lunadesign DNK-H - but a WAY older model). Putting a Pi in there would be so neat!
You are going to enjoy the next couple videos, then ;) (Though I'm still waiting on a 'cheap' ITX motherboard for the Pi... the next two are not quite what I'd call inexpensive!)
I'm happy to highlight projects like theirs since they're unique and interesting to me; same thing with pretty much any product I feature-I don't have time to do boring things :D
A video about ZFS would be interesting and helpful for the community. I muddled through it with XigmaNAS on an old Dell rack server. It is a whole different world.
I have one of their earlier Penta SATA HAT units. As it is only USB-attached, it's slower (a fair bit) but is still an impressive unit. This fresher update looks great. I can't wait for a CM5 with AT LEAST 1 Lane PCIE Gen 3, preferably 2 Lane or 4 Lane.
The whole preamble about why you did it could be resumed to " does it make sense and should anyone do this? Most likely not. Then why did I do it? Because I wanted to."
I'm really curious how this would do on a pi cluster. If the CPU is the primary limitation, would it be feasible to put together a cluster of pis to run the NAS and eliminate some of the bottlenecks on 4k random reads and writes?
Even for 4k random I/O, bandwidth may be an issue. Basically everything has to go over the same PCIe 2.0 x1 link (500 MB/s, full duplex) to and from each Pi CPU, and the 4k random performance is already within an order of magnitude of the bandwidth limit. Random I/O will have some protocol overhead, and plus ZFS RAIDZ also heavily amplifies write bandwidth since it needs to simultaneously write parity. The best case would likely be similar to existing solutions like Ceph; as far as I understand Ceph has a metadata server and for actual traffic directs I/O to the specific nodes containing the data in question.
Sponsorships are definitely less annoying if they somehow fit into the content. But if the alternative is lacking funds to do the project at all... then raid shadow legends it is.
ZFS is a little complex, but oh so powerful! I like to think of it as not a replacement for ext4 filesystems alone, but actually supplanting ext4+LVM+mdadm combined, if you can handle that much potential.
Glad to see I'm not the only person whose recently had an SFP give them a headache. I swapped fibres, reset switches etc etc... All because an SFP decided to go jittery in one direction.
Please dear Raspberry Pi foundation: Hear our prayers, double PCIe Lanes (3x would be perfect for this but double would be plenty already) with Raspberry Pi 5 and give it ECC.... It would kick every "NAS" Manufacturers **** out there even if it had to cost 50 Bucks for the 1GB version.
120MB/sec in Raid 5 over 2.5g ethernet, and no booting from M.2 are deal breakers for me. No point in even having the 2.5g nor the M.2 ports on the board. I know Samba is a resource hog and the Pi is not powerful, but if you didn't watch the whole review and pay close attention to the benchmarks you could totally expect this to do something it can't do.
It's too bad that we don't have non SMR 2TB - 4TB 2.5" hard drives. This would be a perfect setup for that with a small NVMe cache drive it would be the perfect compact NAS.
Okay, I guess my sarcasm level wasn't quite high enough on the Raid Shadow Legends bit-I will not accept sponsorship dollars from any company I don't trust/support (and I don't trust/support Plarium).
Lambda is this video's sponsor, and they are awesome. They also have GPUs that work with their computers. I'm still trying to get one working on a Pi :D
ZFS requires as much RAM as you can get. And ZFS compression can chew whatever CPU you have. Also, compressed and uncompressed ARC can make a difference for underpowered systems.
@@IDGinUkraine Yeah, after my benchmarking with a 4GB Pi, I'm planning on doing more testing with an 8GB unit.
If there is one thing geeks get salty about for some reason, it is a Raid Shadow Legends sponsorship.
7:53 Good to know that was a goof. Although next time you use that one (or one like it), hold your nose and force a deeper voice-- with your normal speaking voice the bit fell victim to Poe's Law.
You drink your own tea, wisest approach. Integrity is what helps you sleep at night.
I have learned to stop asking "Why?" when I see Jeff drop a video and now just sit back and enjoy the ride.
Seriously dude! And it's been good to see your content as well. :)
@Raid Owl, I've never asked why, only why not?
Word!
Jeff: "Go big or go home"
Jeff already at home, so let's go BIG !
I know, right?!?!?! :D
Red Shirt Jeff: "Go big xor go home"
I scrolled down to see if a LTT employee commented, it's good to have a bit of hope.
* hugs my 2tb raspi media server* its ok, don't let the nasty raspi man scare you, you're still enough for me
Same here. Mine has been running for about 4 years. Skating on thin ice with a single drive. But I just bought a R-pi 4 and a pair of 3T portable drives to build version 2.0.
@@gordonreeder3451 i won a raspi 4 a little while back, so it set it up with a single 2tb hdd that I had for some reason, and ive been using it as a kodi box mostly. Its not been running continuously for very long, i need to restart it relatively often, but its been serving me well for a year or two now
Sponsored by Lambdalabs, you moving up in the world Jeff! And so does Lambda for being smart enough to sponsor you! Well done all around!
Jerking the circles to success
you can't go back after z/OS experience ...
Take the sponsorships and have fun. You're every bit as fun and interesting as those other big guy channels. You're no Wendell, but those guys don't have a red shirt Jeff, either.
I have a theory that both Wendell and Anthony discovered an edible version of pure tech knowledge.
I'd like to think I have a Red Shirt Jeff.....
@@CraftComputing I agree 🤣 ... Video idea for you both "the meeting of red shirts" or "forever red (shirts)"
If Wendell had a redshirt it'd be a TOS red shirt
Seeing a stupid amount of stuff strapped to a pi always brings me great joy. Keep up the good work Jeff!
You need a life.
It also gives me hope that the Pi 5 will do some amazing things where the current limitations are, up to a point.
When your RPi has more $$ in storage than my entire rack... *!*
EDIT: HEY! I already had dibs on Whonnock disks!
Hahahaha
I know why it's named Whonnock! And a few other people who have watched the wlan show.
It's where Linus Sebastian grew up.
You guys should do a colab.
Running raid shadow legends on a Cloud gaming server... thats actually a raspi
Your RPI has more in storage than the server in the high school I am working XD
@@bryansuh1985 Androidx86 in a vm. 🤪
Paused the video to say this. I LOVE this advertisement segue with the timer and everything! I know people can't always have completely relevant adverts, but when they are they are still kind of jarring. This one actually confused me as I wondered what the timer was for because the advert itself was so contextually linked to the content! Top, top work there Mr Geerling
This channel, and Explaining Computers are the two channels that have expanded my Pi horizons over the past couple of years, so many projects planned now.
We need a “super like” button for Jeff’s videos. One little thumbs up just doesn’t cover it.
0:34 THANK YOU for the timer. This should be mandatory on YT (and I don't always skip sponsor spots because sometimes people have a genuinely good product, it's just better to know when they end)
"if you work for Linus Tech Tips and wanna..."
I died.
I'm still laughing.🤣
He would have to move his family from St. Louis to Vancouver or subcontract work from him.
I’d rather he didn’t work with that clickbait garbage channel
@@Aruneh Makes sense, as he doesn't have advertisements blowing though the wazoo just to deliver his material. Just a simple crate or project package shows up and he tackles it. LTT might as soon well be a large daytime Linus Truman Tech Show.
@@rangefreewords Say what you want, but making it to ~15 Million subscribers speaks for itself.
Subject: How to conceive how hardy a raspberry pi can interface with a ton of NAS storage using only 20watts in a compact form factor.
Expectations: The board has to last a long time or you want a quick off the shelf price well within budget and high output isn't what your interests are.
So, this was a great video! Not only did it show if the top shelf storage devices could work with the raspberry pi as if you were largely concerned about space, modularity and a near unlimited private storage network on a minimalist agenda,, but to consume less than 20 watts.
I really enjoyed the review on this RaspberryPi device.
Take the raid shadow legend sponsorship, and use it to do 100 Gb/s ethernet on a Pi!
I loved the sarcasm regarding the next sponsor :D
Also, send Anthony a shirt, he’d probably appreciate it considering he seems to like to dabble in Linux stuffs :)
Thank you for actually making all the impractical, insane, and super cool ideas so no one else wastes their money :)
Jeff, great video! I love it when I see someone trying to push the limits into the insane. This is where we learn and break down faulty thinking. Keep up the good work.
Jeff awesome video! Especially because of all the documentation you keep providing us for these 'niche' use cases. I'd love to hear your take on using old enterprise disposed thin clients to set up a storage server like this one. I know you're the pi guy and that a video would come with natural biases, but would still be awesome to see
I actually used to use such PCs for a few projects, but the problem I had was the chassis was always too small (and expansion too limited) to have too much fun without ending up having something resembling a mini-tower, just without the nice mini-tower all-in-one-case design :(
zfs is just wonderful and not surprised it ran so well on the Pi CM4. Amazing job on this build and test.
Man it’s awesome to see your progress as a technology knowledge advocate, no matter how seemingly “trivial”. Been subscriber since you reviewed some cheap lapel microphones many years ago. Keep the enjoyable content coming!
The oldies!
Great vid! Finally something small and 'portable-ish' that can power a mini NAS on my network. Just what I've been waiting for.
👀
I think one potential real use-case could be as a NAS or as part of a "homelab" for a digital nomad, i.e. someone who lives out of a van or travel trailer. Power consumption is a big deal, especially when you're off the grid. Having so much space but sipping power compared to just about any other implementation makes this a potential solution rather than just a fun experiment.
Agreed. I’ve been spending months at a time in my 30ft class A. I don’t have the luxury of full time unlimited power like I do at home. Everything I use in the RC has to be low power as possible. I’d seriously consider building one of these, maybe 20TB or so.
Opening line says it all lol. I love these little nas setups.
This looks really cool! I ran my old Pi 4 with Dual HDDs in BTRFS Raid 1. It worked well. Got nearly a gigabit on seq read and writes using nfs. SSH was also not that slow anymore. I think older Pis were heavily limited when any kind of encryption was wrapped and usually were what keept speeds under 3MB/s. These benchmarks were most interesting for me since my most convenient transfers were usually with SSH or a browser. So encryption was the limiting factor then.
Bonkers but brilliant! And that’s just you Jeff. Awesome inappropriate application of so much storage I love it…love pi. Thanks 😊
Putting a countdown timer on the sponsor spot was a great idea!
So exactly how many days of continuous file transfers would it take to fill up?
At least a week!
ZFS on RPi video!? Yes please!
I pushed the bell button so please upload an alert video whenever any of these Raspberry pi NAS boards stop being OUT OF STOCK! Thank you Jeff!!!
Congrats Jeff, this made my google recommendation news stream. I saw your face and I’m like “shoot, I’m subscribed to this guy”.
I really enjoy, that you do these crazy projects. It avoids, that I spend tons of money to try them myself :-D
I must say this is the most entertaining channel I follow. Even if the subject material isn't very interesting, Jeff makes it fun.
The single coolest and geekiest video sponsor, ever.
Hey this is an awesome rig for an ultra powerful but super power efficient and compact proxmoxpi build! I know at least one RV-owning friends would love to have this to help with his TH-cam travel channel!
If you take the sponsorship, you're only allowed to mention them on videos about RAID or the /etc/shadow file. Their sponsorships show up in some of the strangest places. I guess it's a spray and pray ad campaign?
Also, +1 on the idea for videos about ZFS
Haha I love the /etc/shadow idea :D
@@JeffGeerling I liked the smooth transition between raid shadow, and RAID...
@filleswe91 How to install League of Legends on a Raspberry Pi? Though I have a feeling they wouldn't go for that... :)
Worked on something like this a number of years ago. There are a large number of memory crossings (data moved CPU Memory) for SMB. We rewrote/extended bits of the Linux network and file-system stacks so the CPU didn't touch the data unless necessary. This gave a huge performance boost for the slower disks/CPU/memory of that era.
That Taco board is awesome. You could probably build a decent NAS if you setup like 3-4 RPIs with their own boards then raid them together via network protocols like iSCSI. you would probably need something more powerful than a RPI to act as the SAN head though. But this board could be a building block to building a huge SAN for decently cheap.
trade offer:
you get my views on your raid: shadow legends sponsorship
i get a video on 100gbps on cm4
Obviously, 2.5 gig is the max throughout the pi can do. However, can it do it with less CPU power? Can rdma work? Can we get infiniband on a pi?
Jeff, where would computing be if there weren't people like you to do all the things that some may call "stupid" or "pointless"? Computing is as much about fun and pushing things as it is about making life easier work wise. So everyone, go and do stupid and pointless things with tech! It's fun and awesome!
I think a video on ZFS on the Pi is in order.
Stupid is not the word I would use. Helpful, informative, and fun, yes.
Those SSDs would be crazy to just go out and purchase but The concept of having a low-powered server built out of SSDs you just had.
As a video editor there are a lot of times that I could use just having 20 gigs of stuff just easily available LAN capable out of basically spare parts plus a little would be really fantastic. Like a client asks for something random I've done in the past. Or overnighted a hotel and you want to ingest and clean up all your cards and not fill up your laptop. Some of the photography solutions out there for Wi-Fi ingesting: you can drop $1,000 without the usability of a cool board like that. Thank you so much for doing this research definitely going to look forward to purchasing myself one of these boards as soon as they come out.
Take the sponsor. I have no doubt that you will put the funds to great use in growing the channel! Also, I'm STILL waiting for TrueNAS on RPi...
"man spends 5000usd on a 48TB raspberry Pi storage server" was the title of an article Google news pushed into my feed.
Massive overkill in various levels! We want more!
(computational cookie monster feelings)
Yes raid shadow legends sponsorship would be awesome. I wonder if someone from LTT ever helped them out with those drives. I will try to contact them for you red shirt, Jeff.
Talking more comfort over time, don't worry, you did a great job.
HEY! I have worked with Lambda machines (physically only). pretty cool they are a sponsor.
Glad you’re being sponsored. Interesting channel.
If the RAID sponsorship gets you 100Gbps, then I, as a long time viewer and Stanley screwdriver brother, allow you to get the it!
Cheers, dude!
I dare you to say "Admirably" in your next video LOL ... great content as always!
I tried like 8 times and gave up. For some reason it just doesn't come out of my mouth without me tripping over it!
4:13 - Shameless, I love it! Hope they send you some! :D
"Jeff explains ZFS" would be an incredible video. There are lots of ZFS videos out there but they're all for Linux nerds. I'm sure yours would be a great step in between.
Yeah 99% of the time when I go view a ZFS video (like most Linux videos, too), it seems focused on minutiae that you'd have to already understand a lot of Linux and storage terminology just to get the video. I hope to do a video on it.
@@JeffGeerling Well ZFS is not your regular FS, it's highly specialized and enterprise oriented with much more than just a FS, almost no raid tool or volume manager is for newbies or home users.
I'm sure you could simplify it to better explain the concepts to the average Joe, but a lot of advanced storage knowledge IS required to succeed and take advantage of ZFS, otherwise you're better off with the likes of btrfs or xfs + LVM for snapshots and basic functions not enterprise or enthusiast related.
But hey, I'd love to see you dig deep into the ZFS rabbbit hole though! And giving it a new perspective or simplifying a little the concepts for mere mortals.
I feel like there must be scope for a 15-20 minute video of "just enough ZFS for home users".
Hi, Jeff, with all the small projects, we would like to see a paper based "cookbook" compilation of these technical performance journey. Very interesting especially for those individuals who wants to dig deep in performance.
Great video Jeff. It needs a 3D printed case lol, dont hesitate to reach out.
For about 2 mins I thought you were a new host on LTT. Nice job!
Congrats on getting Steve Buscemi for the thumbnail!
Great video. And to think I was pretty impressed with myself for adding a 2TB SSD to my AMD Phenom II desktop last week :-)
@AstroCat And I do not even have to worry about Red Shirt Jeff!
Really hyped for this board
I saw those $5000 in cash lying around. I'm happy to take them, Jeff!
"Looker close" Heh :)
I love those CM4 boards! Actually I hope to see an Thin Mini ITX board eventually as I have such a case sitting in my storage, even with an integrated power supply (Lunadesign DNK-H - but a WAY older model). Putting a Pi in there would be so neat!
You are going to enjoy the next couple videos, then ;)
(Though I'm still waiting on a 'cheap' ITX motherboard for the Pi... the next two are not quite what I'd call inexpensive!)
These Taco folks should be paying you for all the work you did here. Like a lot!
I'm happy to highlight projects like theirs since they're unique and interesting to me; same thing with pretty much any product I feature-I don't have time to do boring things :D
LTT level of overkill. Keep it coming.
Yiooooo! Brian the electrician, Jake and Jeff style intro is in order
Keep up the good work jeff
If the spot is hilarious, I will happily accept a raid shadow legends sponsorship lmao
They're more of a meme these days anyways
These videos are great if you want to sleep. Thanks
This is so overkill but so cool.
Thx for heart Jeff! I love you too!
8:13 No, I did not realize the Pi can run ZFS! 🤯 Why should I keep my HP microservers?
I fully support a Raid ad spot if that gets Red Shirt Jeff some more liberties
A video about ZFS would be interesting and helpful for the community. I muddled through it with XigmaNAS on an old Dell rack server. It is a whole different world.
I have one of their earlier Penta SATA HAT units. As it is only USB-attached, it's slower (a fair bit) but is still an impressive unit.
This fresher update looks great.
I can't wait for a CM5 with AT LEAST 1 Lane PCIE Gen 3, preferably 2 Lane or 4 Lane.
Those bloopers are fun. 😆
The whole preamble about why you did it could be resumed to " does it make sense and should anyone do this? Most likely not. Then why did I do it? Because I wanted to."
would be nice to tie all those SSDs together using the upper mounting holes
Great video!! Do make a video with Wi-Fi 6 module. Which I think will make a great portable NAS. waiting for it!!
I'm really curious how this would do on a pi cluster. If the CPU is the primary limitation, would it be feasible to put together a cluster of pis to run the NAS and eliminate some of the bottlenecks on 4k random reads and writes?
Even for 4k random I/O, bandwidth may be an issue. Basically everything has to go over the same PCIe 2.0 x1 link (500 MB/s, full duplex) to and from each Pi CPU, and the 4k random performance is already within an order of magnitude of the bandwidth limit. Random I/O will have some protocol overhead, and plus ZFS RAIDZ also heavily amplifies write bandwidth since it needs to simultaneously write parity. The best case would likely be similar to existing solutions like Ceph; as far as I understand Ceph has a metadata server and for actual traffic directs I/O to the specific nodes containing the data in question.
Admirable job Jeff. :) wish I had sponsor money to spend on 8tb ssds. Fun content.
I loved the Obi Wan Reference. You're a funny man. Wish I had a friend like you I could do crap like this with. Need world wide Geerling clubs!
Sponsorships are definitely less annoying if they somehow fit into the content.
But if the alternative is lacking funds to do the project at all... then raid shadow legends it is.
Want to order a Taco, hope Radxa release it soon!
I Love the blooper reel^^
ZFS is a little complex, but oh so powerful! I like to think of it as not a replacement for ext4 filesystems alone, but actually supplanting ext4+LVM+mdadm combined, if you can handle that much potential.
Love this video Jeff
This board is everything I want in a DIY NAS *grabbyhands*
6 years from now it'll cost 20 bucks
4 more years to go, hope you'll pay me the difference :D
"stupid means fun" ? it's not stupid. It's called "think outside the box". I like to see someone try new things.
Talking about LTT, when can we expect your your appearance at a LTT video? 😁
Glad to see I'm not the only person whose recently had an SFP give them a headache.
I swapped fibres, reset switches etc etc... All because an SFP decided to go jittery in one direction.
The new MikroTik ones I put in now run at 85°C 😬
@@JeffGeerling toasty 🤔
Please dear Raspberry Pi foundation: Hear our prayers, double PCIe Lanes (3x would be perfect for this but double would be plenty already) with Raspberry Pi 5 and give it ECC.... It would kick every "NAS" Manufacturers **** out there even if it had to cost 50 Bucks for the 1GB version.
I also still want the pi slices with the storage and a way to build that. They looked so cutie pie 😆.
Wow, that pun for RAID.....
Yay ZFS!
120MB/sec in Raid 5 over 2.5g ethernet, and no booting from M.2 are deal breakers for me. No point in even having the 2.5g nor the M.2 ports on the board. I know Samba is a resource hog and the Pi is not powerful, but if you didn't watch the whole review and pay close attention to the benchmarks you could totally expect this to do something it can't do.
It's too bad that we don't have non SMR 2TB - 4TB 2.5" hard drives. This would be a perfect setup for that with a small NVMe cache drive it would be the perfect compact NAS.
But when the RAspberry Pi eleventeen comes out in 2035 then it'll support all that speed.
Love the LTT plug!