AUDIO ISSUE! Hey folks, massive apologises for the loud and rough audio at the beginning. Been trying to fix it all day. Ive I r the best I can, learned a lot and hopefully the next vid will be far better. Sorry
@@PeachyTips GW has their own take on exchange rates. Especially after that time frame where Forgeworld was cheaper than the main studio stuff for the US..
@@PeachyTips Nah, it's just an up charge because they can. That UK price includes VAT while the US price doesn't. Not a chance the freight and distribution is more than the VAT is.
Peachy, you're killing me here. Every video you make you're introducing me to new model companies that all make amazing mini's. There's just no way for my wallet and hobby time to keep up with this pace, but please don't stop! Love your channel, love the sharpe impressions, its all an absolute pleasure to watch as well, so thank you
Glad you're enjoying the videos, what you need to bear in mind is that though your wallet may be lighter, your life is richer for all the enjoyment you'll get from your hobby 😉 Luv Mrs Peach 🍑
@@PeachyTips thank you for the words of wisdom, Mrs Peach. I'm going to try telling my wife this when she sees the new Stargrave mini's I got as a direct result of this brilliant channel! 😂
I started a Viking raiding party for Lion Rampant using Victrix models. I found them easy to build as the bodies are 1 pce. Needed about 50 models for the army got carried away & purchased nearly 240. 😂
THANK YOU, PEACHY! I also spin stories about my little guys on the battlefield. I still have a traitor guard model from Rogue Trader, that in one game killed 2 Deathwing terminators in close combat. I painted some laurel on his shoulder pad and he was allowed to retire at the height of his glory!
I absolutely love the Victrix line of miniatures. Great sculpts, easy to put together, and relatively cheap for what you get. You can "kitbash" unique minis by mix and matching bits from different sets pretty easy with some simple dry fitting. Victrix has become the first place I go to when I want plastic minis.
Mixing some those Saxon parts with the old Rohan models gave me some awesome looking traitors for lord Thorne to lead. Also used the unarmored Saxons and rus to make wildmen . ( make sense lord Thorne helped arm wulfs army )
I love a good sise comparison video. It saves the tears when you buy a kit radically out of scale. I really liked your Ratling video as well. It's great to see what other miniatures are avaliable. Thank you.
thanks Pete, tbf i often get frustrated not knowing the sizes of stuff next to similiar companie ranges etc...so if i can at least help with some of that...big box tick from me. much love Peachy
Victrix is the best, hands down! Great quantities for good price, sculpting is fantastic, customer service is even better, they are offering wider range of minis, and they just acquired LBM Studios so, its all getting better with them. GW...they just keep going up on their prices ripping off customers and their own employees...
Came for the comparison, stayed for the theraputic painting, left with ideas for using Victrix Hoplites. Thanks Mr Peach, adding Victrix Greeks to my shopping list.
Thanks I'm glad you think so, usually i find that's the case regardless of manufacturer, if the paint applications and basing are similiar...it ties everything together. Cheers Peachy
Yeah, I have an extensive Barbarian themed army, built using a mix of Frostgrave and Gripping Beast plastics and metals from all over the place, and a vaguely chaosish army using Warlord Games Germanic tribesmen, Frostgrave Gnolls and whatever else took my fancy. Consistent colour choices and basing help sell the idea of an army even if you're using historicals that are supposed to be a thousand years apart.
Thanks for clearing that up dude, i was one of the scale creep peeps and i was convicned there was! Now i know for sure lol. I bought the Rohan box to go with my Rohan cavalry.
Great video Peachy, thanks. I too was surprised at the price of the Games Workshop models. Much cheaper than I thought they would be. I had not heard of Victrix models, so thank you for introducing them to me.
I would argue that Games Workshop USED TO make the best toy soldiers. Around 2012 they were at the top of their game. Since then, their models have become more monopose yet more complicated, more fiddly and fragile, and more difficult to transport and store. The stuff from Victrix, Wargames Atlantic, Anvil Industry, North Star etc. is much more fun to build, convert, paint, and play with.
Vixtrix I would agree with. I've just finished putting together a bunch of Peninsula War British and, apart from some ropey instructions and slightly fiddly arm positioning, I was really impressed with them. The same cannot be said, however, about the Wargames Atlantic British Riflemen. These kits were pretty terrible tbh. The poses are awkward, the ability to make different variations of models is virtually none existent and the quality wasn't great. I was very, very dissapointed with them. The only thing that saves them is the ability to make Sharpe and Harper.
yeah, they basically switched from "gaming" to "display" models and the game is just a sideshow now with the main focus being to make "armies" that look good on the shelf if you buy one of each box
@@kodosdh Entirely agree. I look at half the new Age of Sigmar and Warcry stuff and wonder "Have they forgotten that these are supposed to be game pieces?"
You can also get discounted Victrix models from Wayland. They do a 60 model set of Anglo-Danes for £38... so... really, it depends what aesthetic you're after.
In the UK, GW boxes of infantry tend to be good value, as are their starter sets. It’s the characters that are absolutely bonkers - £30ish for one individual hero character! If you can use the Victrix set to tool up a dude to be character with options from the sprue, then that’s a massive saving.
"The beacons are lit! Peachy has a new video!" I recently found BOXES of LOTR minis I bought to teach my niece and nephew to paint, back when I worked for GW 20 years ago. so many are primed and untouched, so I've been putting some work into them. What I've seen so far of the new models, I really do love. That said.... These Victrix models look really good - as do most of their models. Because of you, Peachy, I have many many boxes of historicals for kitbashing already! I just might add these to my pile! Great video, as always!
I live in the US and just love Victrix. Beautiful models and loads of them in a single package. They also don't have a ridiculous exchange rate that GW has.
Interesting breakdown and paint guide. I think the Victrix guys do a great job as standins, the ones in armour look more like Royal Guard and the unarmoured standard Rohan warriors.
@@kerel995 They really aren't. They're better at taking your money for less product. Don't be a fanboy. Yes, I worked for them, and I still work in the industry. Plenty of better companies out there if you're not just going to fanboy for a single company.
It's crazy that the price is so similar in the UK. Here in NZ the GW Rohan models cost 50% more than Victrix (NZ$102 v NZ$68) - and that's before you factor in that you get extra models in the Victrix kit. I definitely know which ones I'll be using.
i think what is not discussed enough is how desensitised we are to anything that is space marine. at this point its either you are addicted to anything space marine or just turned off at the sight of them.
Excellent .. did the same when we got the original Victrix releases and prior to that had Wargames factory that were used for mix and match LOTR and other projects. Bravo Sir, well played mate 😄👍
Nice video, I particularly enjoyed watching your approach to the painting. One point, which may have been mentioned but on cost the GW are significantly more. their list price is £31.5 which works out at £1.3 a figure. The Victrix are £36 for 36 figures or just £1 each. Yes you can get a discount on some GW suppliers but that holds true for Victrix too, they often hold a 20% sale themselves. So In my opinion Victrix are cheaper, larger and better models. You can get separate packs of archers too! No contest really.
Your certainly right about the cost, but I do mention in the idea you can get it cheaper, via Wayland or other suppliers, which as roughly what my maths were based off. But it’s great to see folks engaging with this and talking through these things Also after making this video, the archers were a new find thanks to folks like you 😍 Cheers Peachy
Victrix are amazing, great quality and at a great price. My Dunland army are 90% Victrix Vikings, an entire army essentially in a bag. Putting them on Warlord Games lipped bases also helped.
Leather and wood don't necessarily need to be different colors since tanning historically involve wood bark (tanin) which gives the leather its brown color. You can use the same colors to paint wood and leather indifferently in tones such as oak or chestnut. Other methods for learher tanning can be used which provides variety but you can save time and paint to both the same. Same with cloth dye which usually come from commonly found plants.
one thing that is also great about the Victrix kits is that even after you build all of them you usually are left with a lot of extra parts for kitbashing. I have done some hand swaps with some of the Oathmark humans and they work well. One one downside with the armored Victrix units, at least the ones with mail shirts is its really hard do do arm swaps with them due to how the arms are attached. I have only really done it once attaching some extra WGA cannon fodder arms to a Saxon body for a 40K feudal world soldier but it took some cutting and adjustments so it didn't look like he had slenderman arms
Love to watch your stuff and the only thing I would have done differently was the mail. I learned early on, doing dwarves actually, paint the mail black and dry brush over the top which gives it that shadow under the mail. Also a suggestion. For the GW Rohan model, to give him a bit more height to match the other lads, use a base for him. Something like the Bolt Action bases, possibly upside down on the black base and you might find the height of the figures similar. Having said that, you may have just found a way to show that humans are different heights anyway.
These are excellent suggestions, I often mix up the way I approach metals, and the dwarf version you mentioned is a great example. Cheers for commenting
While Lord Duncan is a master of the details for a competition win, the People's Peach shows us the way to realistic painting of the 135 minis we need to get finished for the weekend games... o7
Those Games Workshop sprues sure have a lot of pieces to make some fixed pose models 😳 body, shield and right arm are enough pieces for me on the majority of my models! They do look beautiful once assembled though, the cloaks particularly flow nicely. I didn’t realise how well historical models can fill in for Rohan with the right paint job. Well done!
i got 3 sets of rohan warriors (discounted) and kitbashed some extra bits with them from other brands that fit well (like an extra axe on their waist). ended up painting them to have white cloaks with eye patterns on the shields (wanted to make them look like the jomsvikings in vinland saga~) 😊
Peach is an enigma wrapped in a question. He loves Sean Bean then perfers Rhohan? Heresy! Great video regardless Also this is my 1st video with my patreon call out ! Yay!
Peach was torn but he does love those horse folks (I wonder if he was traumatised by the way Bean dies and has blanked Gondor from his memory 😆)! Many thanks for your support 🤗 Luv Mrs Peach 🍑
Don’t play LoTR (tried but always revert to Warhammer fantasy) but I do love me some Victrix. The customisation options alone always makes thier kits great fun! I really enjoyed this topic and it would be great to see similar comparisons of other GW kits with the likes of Victrix or Wargames Atlantic. Looking forward to the Peachcon details. ❤🍑👍
Worth noting there is a noticable scale difference between the old and new warriors of Rohan. But the older heroes and metal miniatures fit the new scale perfectly.
You really need to use white as the base for a LBMS shield transfer, the decal is pretty much transparent and relies on the background color you’ve painted for the design to show up
The new Rohan models are impressive but it is a shame GW are committed to monopose kits. Generally I prefer to prime chain mail black and drybrush silver over it but these all came out great and the freehand design was a nice touch. Thanks for sharing!
Those armored Saxons could be a base for some Trench Crusade troopers. As an aside, the WGA mounted Conquistadors are a little over $3 a pop to GWs $12.
Cool video again! ..About the Victrix models, I do have a couple of their miniatures, French Napoleonic, Greeks and Romans (Early Imperial). I must say that they are great models, greatly sculpt, but that said I still have some slight issues with them, the French Napoleonic are a very older set and you can see that by the amount of plastic flash and mould lines, but mostly with the Romans one, specially the General set. I find that their head are specially way bigger than the soldiers one, they look also smaller in heights if you imagine them stand tall to the soldiers (Early Imperial Legionnaire /Attack or Auxiliary), but what I found the most disturbing is that they look like giants riding donkeys when they are mounted on their horses! (lol) ..So there are some kind of scale issues, well at lest to my eyes! ;) Cheers and Happy new years!!! :)
One of my biggest issues with GW minis is the way they cut the models for sprues now is just awful, and seeing those Rohan sprues doesn't change my mind at all.
Despite having watched all the LOTR movies I couldn't tell you the first thing about any of these things, but that's ok, I enjoyed watching your painting tutorial anyway, they all look great!
Glad you enjoyed the video, hopefully there might be something useful there that you could use in the future (you never know, the horn of Gondor may call you yet 😆)! Luv Mrs Peach 🍑
Great review. I have many Victrix kits and I would say the interchangeability is what I like, you can easily makes the Saxons archers or crossbowmen. Having made up a box of both the new Rohan and Hill Tribesmen, I found putting them together took much longer than other makes like Victrix , Wargames Atlantic and Oathmark and Fireforge. I am not a fan if 2 part heads or large numbers of minis on one foot. GW says on their boxes the new minis are for 12+, well all I can say is that I doubt many 12 year olds would find putting them together easy. I am a several times 12 and they were a challenge. I note some TH-cam reviewers have said it goo them between 10 nd 13 hours to put together 56 minis and two houses. That's without painting them. That's quite an investment if time. The new GW minis were a little disappointing, because of lack of possibility, and in my view there are already better 3D prints out there anyway.
Some excellency points here, and the 10-13 hours just to build stuff is an absolute put off many folks who only have a few hours here and there, granted you need to invest time, but I’d want to be painting by hour 6 lol
Just ordering some, 2 boxes, Vitrix's naked Gaul Fanatics to convert them to naked Khornate Marauders with flails. With JUST flails, no armour or clothes, just flails and severed heads.
I've got used to the monopose GW kits now for my AoS armies. The only bugbear is for hero models, so if I want more than one I have to alter them in some way. I look at it as a hobby challenge and it doesn't need to be done very often. AoS models are not 28mm, though, and aesthetically very distinct, so it's a bit harder to mix in other brands. ( Perhaps that might be an idea for a future video ). Great content as always, thank you.
I feel like the big price issues come from over seas. They dont tend to get flg store discounts like UK, they have the duty added on, and then there's the tax not included in the price for US. We have it pretty good for GW in the UK really
Thanks for the 10% off at weprintminis peachy! Got myself cyberpunk and fantasy blindboxes along with a wizard. Fingers crossed the boxes contain treasures!
I feel like if you did some cloaks on the vitrix models they’d fit in even better. Some green stuff or even paper dipped in a water/pva glue mix works great!
I do subassemblies for shields but supergluing them to the model and popping them off? Amazing idea, not even 5 minutes in and I've learnt something new lmao
The new LotR stuff surprised me with the prices too, hopefully a positive sign for the future! I love to mix and match fantasy and historical stuff too. In the books the Dunlendings are more Celtic in style then the movies so the dark age Welsh from Gripping Beast are my choice for them :D
I may try the same experiment using wargames Atlantic carolingians and Visigoths. They've got some nice scalemail bodies so that should match pretty well
I'd like to kitbash some of the Victrix or Wargames Atlantic Medieval minis into Feudal World themed Traitor Guard and Cultists to accompany my Nurgle-corrupted Blood Angels
I found that the new Rohan models weren't that fun to build. It felt like a chore compared to building Victrix models. I think it's because of the countless customisation options with the Victrix kits, especially seeing as its very easy to mix kits meaning every single model looks unique.
I like victrix but I like northstar (frostgrave and oathmark) even better because they are the easiest to customize. I assembled a band of hobgoblins by mixing pieces from a box of orcs and a box of demons.
You could just base the Rohan soldiers on a thin piece of cork to raise up their height to match the Victrix ones. Its not a bad thing having a bit pf height difference, no army was ever made of soldiers exactly the same height
I have bought the Victrix Viking models some time ago to create a Dunland army. Especially because the size is very similar and they would fit very nice from their weapons and armour. I like the GW models for Lord of the Rings very much, but I am a big fan of free posing miniatures too and I miss the old GW kits, where you could pose and fit out your models by yourself instead of having always the same poses and outfits. Additionally I was much faster in the past putting the models together, because finding the necessary parts on today's sprues is taking sooooooooo much longer! In my opinion they should go back to lesser details in favour for quicker building and free posing models.
Victrix makes the best D&D minis on the market. With something like GW, there's loads of details, like sculpted shield emblems. They really lock you into one look. Victrix is more grounded, so it's way easier to kitbash a little and sculpt cloaks or whatever without clashing. Just add a cloak, swap to an ahistorical field, and they feel like fantasy minis. Their Dacians are probably the winners for this, just because there's so many rarer weapons. Plus, huge bags mean you get lots of bits to mix and match! I've built probably two hundred of their minis, and I don't think I've actually done any of them completely as intended. I think it helps that if you're paying American GW prices, Victrix can pretty easily pull ahead on price, too.
Whilst the Middle Earth plastic miniatures are generally at the "value" end of GW's price range, the smaller, 30 figure skirmish packs from Victrix, per model, are still about 30% better value for money. However, buy the full size packs of 60 and you end up paying about half what you would per model than buying the citadel ones. That said, I have been using Rohan miniatures extensively in a fantasy project I am working on based on the Symbaroum RPG setting. Rohan represent one of the Barbarian clans, which I am basing on various dark age civilizations. So I am not trying to be disparaging of GW, I think their Rohan models are stunning.
They just put up Galadriel, Celeborn and the mirror up for preorder for €23, and Haldir with 2 alternate loadouts for €50. absolutely insane that 2 boxes of 3 metal miniatures each has a price difference of more than 100%, and the more expensive one you can only use one miniature at a time.
You say you're not qualified re airbrushing, same mate. I bought one recently, idk what I'm doing. I'd love to see an "I don't know what I'm doing with this airbrush" video. Let's share some hobby trauma peach 😅
It does feel like gw doesn’t want people to make large armies in the format that armies should be - a gw napoleonic army would be 1 unit of old guard, 2 cannon, 1 unit of heavy dragoons, light cav, and the armoured horse (I gave up trying to spell it, I’ve not had my coffee yet!), a unit of camel cav cos nap spent 5 mins in Egypt and 1 or 2 inv reg begrudgingly made to be there. It allows and encourages peeps to keep buying the “new” stuff and not care about a sense of realism (for fantasy and sci-fi universes!). This means they can push the monopose direction because you’re not expected to repeat units…
AUDIO ISSUE! Hey folks, massive apologises for the loud and rough audio at the beginning.
Been trying to fix it all day. Ive I r the best I can, learned a lot and hopefully the next vid will be far better.
Sorry
No-one gets it right all the time, you live and learn!
Earlobes crossed for the next one, thanks for all your work!
Where was Gondor when the audio settings fell?
I forgive you
Volume isn’t the best but wasn’t horrible either!
Christ that was loud I spilled my Tea !!! lol
Victrix does amazing historicals.
Here in North America its either 24 gw models for 60$ or 60 victix for $60.
So the GW value your seeing may be a UK only perk.
48 rus for £40.. yea i'll take that over GW any day, prefer the sculpts too. Rohan are nice but they're annoying as per new GW sprue design.
oh wow! that is interesting...i guess you folks get hit hard by the shipping and distribution costs from GW...but not Victrix....hmmm
@@PeachyTips GW has their own take on exchange rates. Especially after that time frame where Forgeworld was cheaper than the main studio stuff for the US..
@@PeachyTips Nah, it's just an up charge because they can. That UK price includes VAT while the US price doesn't. Not a chance the freight and distribution is more than the VAT is.
In Australia it’s $86 dollars for GW, and $65 for Victrix. No comparison Victrix all the way.
Peachy, you're killing me here. Every video you make you're introducing me to new model companies that all make amazing mini's. There's just no way for my wallet and hobby time to keep up with this pace, but please don't stop! Love your channel, love the sharpe impressions, its all an absolute pleasure to watch as well, so thank you
Glad you're enjoying the videos, what you need to bear in mind is that though your wallet may be lighter, your life is richer for all the enjoyment you'll get from your hobby 😉
Luv Mrs Peach 🍑
@@PeachyTips thank you for the words of wisdom, Mrs Peach. I'm going to try telling my wife this when she sees the new Stargrave mini's I got as a direct result of this brilliant channel! 😂
I started a Viking raiding party for Lion Rampant using Victrix models. I found them easy to build as the bodies are 1 pce.
Needed about 50 models for the army got carried away & purchased nearly 240. 😂
I did the same thing for RavenFeast. I just wanted 30 Vikings but, before I knew it, I had 120 Vikings, 120 Saxons and 80 Normans 😂
Hahaha! Well that’s commitment 😂👍
@@PeachyTips More like a mild compulsion! 😂
Yeah done that myself.
Victrix makes Dark Ages archers which I believe includes heads for Saxons, Anglo-Danes and Vikings
THANK YOU, PEACHY! I also spin stories about my little guys on the battlefield. I still have a traitor guard model from Rogue Trader, that in one game killed 2 Deathwing terminators in close combat. I painted some laurel on his shoulder pad and he was allowed to retire at the height of his glory!
gotta keep tabs on those lil heroes, and those lil liabilities too hahaha!
I absolutely love the Victrix line of miniatures. Great sculpts, easy to put together, and relatively cheap for what you get. You can "kitbash" unique minis by mix and matching bits from different sets pretty easy with some simple dry fitting. Victrix has become the first place I go to when I want plastic minis.
I love victrix! thanks for the review/paint tutorial!
Mixing some those Saxon parts with the old Rohan models gave me some awesome looking traitors for lord Thorne to lead. Also used the unarmored Saxons and rus to make wildmen . ( make sense lord Thorne helped arm wulfs army )
That’s super smart, and I’m totally stealing this 😍👍
@ thank 😁 I look forward to seeing your creations in the future
The Rus set looks really good.
I'm very excited that a local shop started carrying Victrix. They can be a little hard to find in the US.
I love a good sise comparison video. It saves the tears when you buy a kit radically out of scale. I really liked your Ratling video as well. It's great to see what other miniatures are avaliable. Thank you.
thanks Pete, tbf i often get frustrated not knowing the sizes of stuff next to similiar companie ranges etc...so if i can at least help with some of that...big box tick from me.
much love
Peachy
Victrix is the best, hands down! Great quantities for good price, sculpting is fantastic, customer service is even better, they are offering wider range of minis, and they just acquired LBM Studios so, its all getting better with them. GW...they just keep going up on their prices ripping off customers and their own employees...
Came for the comparison, stayed for the theraputic painting, left with ideas for using Victrix Hoplites. Thanks Mr Peach, adding Victrix Greeks to my shopping list.
those Greeks are ace btw....need to get a few more done for some Jason and the Argonauts shenanigans
The Vitrix Greeks look like they could be fun to mix with the wargames atlantic skeletons!
@@PeachyTips My thoughts exactly .. of course now this is the perfect reason to get that glorious Trish Carden HarrowHyrst hydra.
@@kwest9747I reckon your spot on with that
@@ellesse3862🙌🙌🙌 oh heck yeah!
In the end, the models look like they belong to the same game/unit! Cool result! That is, what counts in the end! Good video 😀
Thanks I'm glad you think so, usually i find that's the case regardless of manufacturer, if the paint applications and basing are similiar...it ties everything together.
Cheers
Peachy
Yeah, I have an extensive Barbarian themed army, built using a mix of Frostgrave and Gripping Beast plastics and metals from all over the place, and a vaguely chaosish army using Warlord Games Germanic tribesmen, Frostgrave Gnolls and whatever else took my fancy. Consistent colour choices and basing help sell the idea of an army even if you're using historicals that are supposed to be a thousand years apart.
that actually sounds bloody awesome! would love to see some pics of that collection, great job!
Always great hearing from you Peachy. Keep doing what you're doing. :)
Frostgrave plastic models box sets, by North Star Military Figures are really good! Lots of extras in the boxes too !
100% agree with this
Thanks for clearing that up dude, i was one of the scale creep peeps and i was convicned there was! Now i know for sure lol. I bought the Rohan box to go with my Rohan cavalry.
Nothing wrong with being concerned bud, tbf it’s not like they’ve been guilty of it before. But year pretty chuffed they scale with my existing stuff
My Rohan force is almost exclusively Victrix models. Love the options you get and that all their sets are pretty much interchangeable.
The interchangeability of the victrix stuff does tip the scales for me tbf
The number of heads in the late roman set is staggering @@PeachyTips
Great video Peachy, thanks. I too was surprised at the price of the Games Workshop models. Much cheaper than I thought they would be. I had not heard of Victrix models, so thank you for introducing them to me.
Glad you enjoyed it Richard and pleased it's helped you discover a new source of minis! 😊
Luv Mrs Peach 🍑
Started playing MESBG just now (first game was on 3rd of January) and trying to build a Rohan army. Great game! Great video! Thanks Peach ❤
I would argue that Games Workshop USED TO make the best toy soldiers. Around 2012 they were at the top of their game. Since then, their models have become more monopose yet more complicated, more fiddly and fragile, and more difficult to transport and store. The stuff from Victrix, Wargames Atlantic, Anvil Industry, North Star etc. is much more fun to build, convert, paint, and play with.
Oh so true.
Yes , GW current models are too damned detailed! .. lacking the charm and character of earlier models.
Vixtrix I would agree with. I've just finished putting together a bunch of Peninsula War British and, apart from some ropey instructions and slightly fiddly arm positioning, I was really impressed with them. The same cannot be said, however, about the Wargames Atlantic British Riflemen. These kits were pretty terrible tbh. The poses are awkward, the ability to make different variations of models is virtually none existent and the quality wasn't great. I was very, very dissapointed with them. The only thing that saves them is the ability to make Sharpe and Harper.
yeah, they basically switched from "gaming" to "display" models and the game is just a sideshow now with the main focus being to make "armies" that look good on the shelf if you buy one of each box
@@kodosdh Entirely agree. I look at half the new Age of Sigmar and Warcry stuff and wonder "Have they forgotten that these are supposed to be game pieces?"
You can also get discounted Victrix models from Wayland. They do a 60 model set of Anglo-Danes for £38... so... really, it depends what aesthetic you're after.
In the UK, GW boxes of infantry tend to be good value, as are their starter sets.
It’s the characters that are absolutely bonkers - £30ish for one individual hero character!
If you can use the Victrix set to tool up a dude to be character with options from the sprue, then that’s a massive saving.
Awesome tip thankyou 😊
Luv Mrs Peach 🍑
"The beacons are lit! Peachy has a new video!"
I recently found BOXES of LOTR minis I bought to teach my niece and nephew to paint, back when I worked for GW 20 years ago. so many are primed and untouched, so I've been putting some work into them. What I've seen so far of the new models, I really do love. That said.... These Victrix models look really good - as do most of their models. Because of you, Peachy, I have many many boxes of historicals for kitbashing already! I just might add these to my pile!
Great video, as always!
😍 for me it’s just super useful accruing all these extra components that scale well together for fine truly fun kitbashing sessions
I live in the US and just love Victrix. Beautiful models and loads of them in a single package. They also don't have a ridiculous exchange rate that GW has.
Another amazing video Mr Peach. Really good painting tips and a general hobby philosophy.
Thanks Adam, we're super glad you enjoyed it 😊
Luv Mrs Peach 🍑
Im thinking of using the Rus as Chaos Marauders.
I have done just this (at least, bought the models for that purpose). Think they look much more thematic.
Great video, those minis match up very well. I’m with you on the faces though, there was much swearing when I assembled my new Rohan 😆
🤣😂🤣😂
Interesting breakdown and paint guide. I think the Victrix guys do a great job as standins, the ones in armour look more like Royal Guard and the unarmoured standard Rohan warriors.
Agreed, the royal guard idea didn’t even occur to me, but very smart suggestion 😍👍
WGA have a cloaks and helmet kit too. Heads are mostly great helms but ideal for adding on to make fancier lads/characters
Victrix models are amazing value and quality!
And PeeChee came out of the woodwork
Who cares about vitrix? I like video but gw is just hands down so much better😊
@@kerel995 They really aren't. They're better at taking your money for less product. Don't be a fanboy.
Yes, I worked for them, and I still work in the industry. Plenty of better companies out there if you're not just going to fanboy for a single company.
I buy a lot of plastic historical models and in my experience Victrix are the best models on the market. Their dark age range is superb.
The new stuff maybe. Even the paint jobs on the official site cane''t make the Napoleonic stuff look good.
It's crazy that the price is so similar in the UK. Here in NZ the GW Rohan models cost 50% more than Victrix (NZ$102 v NZ$68) - and that's before you factor in that you get extra models in the Victrix kit. I definitely know which ones I'll be using.
Thats insane that the price is so different there! Enjoy your victrix 😊
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I would love it if you did this style video but with Dwarves!
I love it's like, "Buy the rules, ehhh get the models elsewhere." Love it! GW stuff has been getting out of price range for a WHILE now.
GW have had a LOT more misses since they started pumping out models non-stop. Thankfully the Rohan warriors were one of the hits.
i think what is not discussed enough is how desensitised we are to anything that is space marine.
at this point its either you are addicted to anything space marine or just turned off at the sight of them.
Great video Peachy. I’ve always used historicals as the good guys in middle earth. Normans and Byzantines are my go to Gondorians
Very smart, I think I might look more into using these for Gondor, great suggestion ❤
it's just so much more fun!
Excellent .. did the same when we got the original Victrix releases and prior to that had Wargames factory that were used for mix and match LOTR and other projects. Bravo Sir, well played mate 😄👍
In Australia the RRP of the GW figures is $86 while the Victrix are $61 so it's a better deal, as long as you have access to archers of course.
I'd love to see another video like this using the Victrix Vikings
Nice video, I particularly enjoyed watching your approach to the painting. One point, which may have been mentioned but on cost the GW are significantly more. their list price is £31.5 which works out at £1.3 a figure. The Victrix are £36 for 36 figures or just £1 each. Yes you can get a discount on some GW suppliers but that holds true for Victrix too, they often hold a 20% sale themselves. So In my opinion Victrix are cheaper, larger and better models. You can get separate packs of archers too! No contest really.
Your certainly right about the cost, but I do mention in the idea you can get it cheaper, via Wayland or other suppliers, which as roughly what my maths were based off. But it’s great to see folks engaging with this and talking through these things
Also after making this video, the archers were a new find thanks to folks like you 😍
Cheers
Peachy
Victrix are amazing, great quality and at a great price. My Dunland army are 90% Victrix Vikings, an entire army essentially in a bag. Putting them on Warlord Games lipped bases also helped.
My club we use any figs we like to proxy into games. Loved the video. We also do tons of 3d printing. Its all about cool factor and having fun.
Leather and wood don't necessarily need to be different colors since tanning historically involve wood bark (tanin) which gives the leather its brown color.
You can use the same colors to paint wood and leather indifferently in tones such as oak or chestnut.
Other methods for learher tanning can be used which provides variety but you can save time and paint to both the same.
Same with cloth dye which usually come from commonly found plants.
one thing that is also great about the Victrix kits is that even after you build all of them you usually are left with a lot of extra parts for kitbashing. I have done some hand swaps with some of the Oathmark humans and they work well. One one downside with the armored Victrix units, at least the ones with mail shirts is its really hard do do arm swaps with them due to how the arms are attached. I have only really done it once attaching some extra WGA cannon fodder arms to a Saxon body for a 40K feudal world soldier but it took some cutting and adjustments so it didn't look like he had slenderman arms
Another great video peach. You are the man, as always
Victrix are excellent if you want to take the idea from the books it’s not just about the movies. Excellent video.
Thanks Ian, yes totally, the army doesn't have to conform to the aesthetic of the films 😊
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This video was great! Thank you so much! 😊
You're welcome, we're glad you enjoyed it 😊
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I used some of these Victrix guys to make some feudal world style guard guys. They're pretty neat and affordable models. Good plastic too.
Thats awesome 👌
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Love to watch your stuff and the only thing I would have done differently was the mail. I learned early on, doing dwarves actually, paint the mail black and dry brush over the top which gives it that shadow under the mail. Also a suggestion. For the GW Rohan model, to give him a bit more height to match the other lads, use a base for him. Something like the Bolt Action bases, possibly upside down on the black base and you might find the height of the figures similar. Having said that, you may have just found a way to show that humans are different heights anyway.
These are excellent suggestions, I often mix up the way I approach metals, and the dwarf version you mentioned is a great example. Cheers for commenting
That's how I usually paint mail too. I tend to use 2mm mdf bases for those on puddles so the overall height matches the GW type.
While Lord Duncan is a master of the details for a competition win, the People's Peach shows us the way to realistic painting of the 135 minis we need to get finished for the weekend games... o7
Green is a great basecoat for all kinds of natural/earthy color tones! I like to use US Khaki from Vallejo for example which looks quite similar.
Works so well, might have to try the khaki, cheers 😍👍
Those Games Workshop sprues sure have a lot of pieces to make some fixed pose models 😳 body, shield and right arm are enough pieces for me on the majority of my models!
They do look beautiful once assembled though, the cloaks particularly flow nicely.
I didn’t realise how well historical models can fill in for Rohan with the right paint job. Well done!
Yeah definitely very beautiful miniatures for sure, but totally agree on the steps needed to make a one piece mini.
i got 3 sets of rohan warriors (discounted) and kitbashed some extra bits with them from other brands that fit well (like an extra axe on their waist).
ended up painting them to have white cloaks with eye patterns on the shields (wanted to make them look like the jomsvikings in vinland saga~) 😊
Peach is an enigma wrapped in a question. He loves Sean Bean then perfers Rhohan? Heresy!
Great video regardless
Also this is my 1st video with my patreon call out ! Yay!
Peach was torn but he does love those horse folks (I wonder if he was traumatised by the way Bean dies and has blanked Gondor from his memory 😆)! Many thanks for your support 🤗
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Don’t play LoTR (tried but always revert to Warhammer fantasy) but I do love me some Victrix. The customisation options alone always makes thier kits great fun!
I really enjoyed this topic and it would be great to see similar comparisons of other GW kits with the likes of Victrix or Wargames Atlantic.
Looking forward to the Peachcon details. ❤🍑👍
I’m sure there’s there’s plenty more rangers/kits that I could cover, as always cheers James 🙏
Great video Peachy
Thanks David 😊
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Worth noting there is a noticable scale difference between the old and new warriors of Rohan. But the older heroes and metal miniatures fit the new scale perfectly.
You really need to use white as the base for a LBMS shield transfer, the decal is pretty much transparent and relies on the background color you’ve painted for the design to show up
The new Rohan models are impressive but it is a shame GW are committed to monopose kits. Generally I prefer to prime chain mail black and drybrush silver over it but these all came out great and the freehand design was a nice touch. Thanks for sharing!
There is no more clear and present danger to my wallet and current painting projects than Peachy showing off new, rad minis for potential conversions.
Hahaha! I’m the Bane of wallets it’s seems 🤣😂
Also HERETI-CHUNT!!!!
Those armored Saxons could be a base for some Trench Crusade troopers. As an aside, the WGA mounted Conquistadors are a little over $3 a pop to GWs $12.
Cool video again! ..About the Victrix models, I do have a couple of their miniatures, French Napoleonic, Greeks and Romans (Early Imperial). I must say that they are great models, greatly sculpt, but that said I still have some slight issues with them, the French Napoleonic are a very older set and you can see that by the amount of plastic flash and mould lines, but mostly with the Romans one, specially the General set. I find that their head are specially way bigger than the soldiers one, they look also smaller in heights if you imagine them stand tall to the soldiers (Early Imperial Legionnaire /Attack or Auxiliary), but what I found the most disturbing is that they look like giants riding donkeys when they are mounted on their horses! (lol) ..So there are some kind of scale issues, well at lest to my eyes! ;) Cheers and Happy new years!!! :)
One of my biggest issues with GW minis is the way they cut the models for sprues now is just awful, and seeing those Rohan sprues doesn't change my mind at all.
Despite having watched all the LOTR movies I couldn't tell you the first thing about any of these things, but that's ok, I enjoyed watching your painting tutorial anyway, they all look great!
Glad you enjoyed the video, hopefully there might be something useful there that you could use in the future (you never know, the horn of Gondor may call you yet 😆)!
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Great review. I have many Victrix kits and I would say the interchangeability is what I like, you can easily makes the Saxons archers or crossbowmen. Having made up a box of both the new Rohan and Hill Tribesmen, I found putting them together took much longer than other makes like Victrix , Wargames Atlantic and Oathmark and Fireforge. I am not a fan if 2 part heads or large numbers of minis on one foot. GW says on their boxes the new minis are for 12+, well all I can say is that I doubt many 12 year olds would find putting them together easy. I am a several times 12 and they were a challenge. I note some TH-cam reviewers have said it goo them between 10 nd 13 hours to put together 56 minis and two houses. That's without painting them. That's quite an investment if time. The new GW minis were a little disappointing, because of lack of possibility, and in my view there are already better 3D prints out there anyway.
Some excellency points here, and the 10-13 hours just to build stuff is an absolute put off many folks who only have a few hours here and there, granted you need to invest time, but I’d want to be painting by hour 6 lol
@peachytips, do you play saga by any chance mate?
I’m aware of it, not yet had chance to give it a go, but I suspect it’ll be up my street
Just ordering some, 2 boxes, Vitrix's naked Gaul Fanatics to convert them to naked Khornate Marauders with flails. With JUST flails, no armour or clothes, just flails and severed heads.
Nice! That freak out those imperial scumbags, naked fanatics flailing their ‘flails’ would certainly give me the willies 👀😂
I've got used to the monopose GW kits now for my AoS armies. The only bugbear is for hero models, so if I want more than one I have to alter them in some way. I look at it as a hobby challenge and it doesn't need to be done very often. AoS models are not 28mm, though, and aesthetically very distinct, so it's a bit harder to mix in other brands. ( Perhaps that might be an idea for a future video ). Great content as always, thank you.
Definitely worth looking at the scales and finding ways to make them fit into your collections does feel like a fun project to look at, cheers 😍👍
I feel like the big price issues come from over seas. They dont tend to get flg store discounts like UK, they have the duty added on, and then there's the tax not included in the price for US. We have it pretty good for GW in the UK really
The dark age archers and singers are worth looking at. You could just use the saxon./Rus heads.
Thanks for the 10% off at weprintminis peachy! Got myself cyberpunk and fantasy blindboxes along with a wizard. Fingers crossed the boxes contain treasures!
I feel like if you did some cloaks on the vitrix models they’d fit in even better. Some green stuff or even paper dipped in a water/pva glue mix works great!
agreed, it wasn't until i was editing that i thought...bugger i should've done my Masking Tape cloak on one...next time.
I would use historical for any faction of humans in Middle Earth.
Always love to see some middle earth sbg
I do subassemblies for shields but supergluing them to the model and popping them off? Amazing idea, not even 5 minutes in and I've learnt something new lmao
Just those little hacks you pick up over the years, just to help speed things along a little, glad you found something useful in the video 😍🙏😍
Frostgraves Barbarians I honestly think are some of the best! Imo
The new LotR stuff surprised me with the prices too, hopefully a positive sign for the future! I love to mix and match fantasy and historical stuff too. In the books the Dunlendings are more Celtic in style then the movies so the dark age Welsh from Gripping Beast are my choice for them :D
As always a great video, thanks.
"For Rohan, James!"
Peachy, "There's some improvement in the sculpting."
The Perry Twins, "Oi, you!!!!"
Hahaha! 'Ready to save Middle Earth again Alec?'
I could easily see using the Victrix models for the troops and the official GW models for sergeants and leaders.
Victrix & Perry Brothers are my current favorites.
I love the range and variety they have. Wargames Atlantic kits also mix in pretty well with those too
@@PeachyTips They do but I think Victrix is leagues above WA in terms of quality of sculpt!
My friend mark did the same with his Rohan and Dunelundings. He’s got videos on MWG.
I may try the same experiment using wargames Atlantic carolingians and Visigoths. They've got some nice scalemail bodies so that should match pretty well
Oooh yeah I was checking out the Carolingians after I saw this message….great suggestion
oathmark humans look like saxons, I just swapped shields with dwarves to get round ones
I'd like to kitbash some of the Victrix or Wargames Atlantic Medieval minis into Feudal World themed Traitor Guard and Cultists to accompany my Nurgle-corrupted Blood Angels
I found that the new Rohan models weren't that fun to build. It felt like a chore compared to building Victrix models. I think it's because of the countless customisation options with the Victrix kits, especially seeing as its very easy to mix kits meaning every single model looks unique.
I like victrix but I like northstar (frostgrave and oathmark) even better because they are the easiest to customize. I assembled a band of hobgoblins by mixing pieces from a box of orcs and a box of demons.
Tbf the Frostgrave/Stargrave and Oathmark kits are amount my top kits atm….so versatile, interchangeable and jam packed with stuff
You could just base the Rohan soldiers on a thin piece of cork to raise up their height to match the Victrix ones. Its not a bad thing having a bit pf height difference, no army was ever made of soldiers exactly the same height
Great idea, and yeah completely agree, we come in all shapes and sizes lol
I have bought the Victrix Viking models some time ago to create a Dunland army. Especially because the size is very similar and they would fit very nice from their weapons and armour. I like the GW models for Lord of the Rings very much, but I am a big fan of free posing miniatures too and I miss the old GW kits, where you could pose and fit out your models by yourself instead of having always the same poses and outfits. Additionally I was much faster in the past putting the models together, because finding the necessary parts on today's sprues is taking sooooooooo much longer! In my opinion they should go back to lesser details in favour for quicker building and free posing models.
Victrix makes the best D&D minis on the market. With something like GW, there's loads of details, like sculpted shield emblems. They really lock you into one look. Victrix is more grounded, so it's way easier to kitbash a little and sculpt cloaks or whatever without clashing. Just add a cloak, swap to an ahistorical field, and they feel like fantasy minis. Their Dacians are probably the winners for this, just because there's so many rarer weapons. Plus, huge bags mean you get lots of bits to mix and match! I've built probably two hundred of their minis, and I don't think I've actually done any of them completely as intended.
I think it helps that if you're paying American GW prices, Victrix can pretty easily pull ahead on price, too.
I love Victrix. I just hope they don't forget why they got the love they did and go up in price %100.
very cool to finally see a proper Lord of the Rings painting video on here mr Peach!
Thanks Frederik, hope you enjoyed it 😊
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Whilst the Middle Earth plastic miniatures are generally at the "value" end of GW's price range, the smaller, 30 figure skirmish packs from Victrix, per model, are still about 30% better value for money. However, buy the full size packs of 60 and you end up paying about half what you would per model than buying the citadel ones.
That said, I have been using Rohan miniatures extensively in a fantasy project I am working on based on the Symbaroum RPG setting. Rohan represent one of the Barbarian clans, which I am basing on various dark age civilizations. So I am not trying to be disparaging of GW, I think their Rohan models are stunning.
Zen and the art of peachy painting
They just put up Galadriel, Celeborn and the mirror up for preorder for €23, and Haldir with 2 alternate loadouts for €50. absolutely insane that 2 boxes of 3 metal miniatures each has a price difference of more than 100%, and the more expensive one you can only use one miniature at a time.
You say you're not qualified re airbrushing, same mate. I bought one recently, idk what I'm doing. I'd love to see an "I don't know what I'm doing with this airbrush" video. Let's share some hobby trauma peach 😅
Hahaha! Well the ‘I have no idea on how to use a 3D printer did okay, so it’s certainly a great suggestion…..trauma sharing definitely helps lol
Peachy that pile of boxes is getting out of control!
It does feel like gw doesn’t want people to make large armies in the format that armies should be - a gw napoleonic army would be 1 unit of old guard, 2 cannon, 1 unit of heavy dragoons, light cav, and the armoured horse (I gave up trying to spell it, I’ve not had my coffee yet!), a unit of camel cav cos nap spent 5 mins in Egypt and 1 or 2 inv reg begrudgingly made to be there. It allows and encourages peeps to keep buying the “new” stuff and not care about a sense of realism (for fantasy and sci-fi universes!). This means they can push the monopose direction because you’re not expected to repeat units…