Promare and Fire Force's Hardcore Hikeshi History! - Gaijin Goombah
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Think you know Promare and Fire Force? Come see the real life history behind these anime! The tough as nails, two-fisted peasant Edo fire fighting Hikeshi who fended the countries worst blazing disasters with their bare hands!
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Sorry this one took so long gang. But I think it was really worth it! I knew nothing about the Hikeshi before all of this, and to hear how absolutely badass they are was a really cool discovery. Remember the Squirtle Squad from Pokemon? SAME THING!
Can you please do a which ninja video on Konoe Kikyo from Bravely Default.
Gaijin Goombah Media Plz do Yokai University in Yokai Watchers
It a Manga I make about a kitsune named Akira who have friends like Alice a rokurokubi who is a mother figure to Akira,Carlos an Oni who is Tough guy always get annoy by Akira,Zane a comedy Neko mata who have YouKaiTube channel and other Yokai in this manga in my TH-cam channel
I did 3 Chapter like
Pool Party
How Alice stole Valentines Day
The Great Yokai Test Featuring Hanako San
Plz do Gaijin My 2 Female friend and I work hard with this series
I Thought that the Squirtle Squad were Just some trouble-making Delinquients with Black Kamina Shades straight out of Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
This is kinda out of topic, but, recently in One Piece, 9 Red Scabbards were introduced.
In Kimetsu no Yaiba, there are also 9 pillars.
Are there any 9 samurais references that I don't know?
Do you have a any sources for the hikeshi? I've been trying to do research on them.
"Houses can be repaired. Lives can not".
This.
This is what everyone needs to focus on.
Something about this phrase has so much impact
#001 Words to live by. Along with "If they don't have your back, they can suck on your sack".
This was something that got stressed to me when i was training to be a firefighter
yeah but if you lose everything..... hard to build your life back... homeless is a thing....
@@campkira Better than dead. The dead can't change or improve their lot, they're dead.
When there is life, there is opportunity.
Hey Gaijin Goomba, next time you make a 'Which Ninja' video could you talk about 'Boshuden' you mentioned back in your 'Messenger' breakdown a while back?
P.S: Good stuff as always, I'll be checking these out when I have time.
FINALLY, A NON TREE VIDEO, THANK YOU
Last ninja said that naruto run is pretty accurate... :|
Never forget the first real Hikeshi of anime: The Squirtle Squad
I want to like.... But 69
Abraxas haha funny sex number
They even wore the uniforms
squirtle
@@emanuelrojas2 they were also a former gang that also participated in criminal mischief, only further showing the references and parallels to the hikeshi.
*entire radius destroyed-*
“Isn’t that...extreme???”
*-limited water supply*
“Ah. That explains it.”
Man I'm glad you did this, when I walked out of the theater I thought to myself "I hope Gaijin does a video on old Japanese firefighters" and here it is.
The concept of gangs of firefighters brawling over territory is something we've had in the West as well. Many gangs in 19th Century America worked as volunteer fire-fighters, and would wage turf wars with one another. Sometimes, two teams would reach the same fire and fight over who got to stop the fire, which sometimes led to buildings burning down while the fight was still in progress.
Still better than what was happening in Briton at the same time fire fighters would only put a home insured with that company and of course the paper work that confirmed who they where with was inside the burning house so you could have several fire fighter groups standing around watching a house burn.
I know that from the movie gangs of New York
yeah same.....
Apparently Dalmatians were associated with firehouses because they were used as guard dogs for back in the day when rival stations would sabotage each other
My maternal grandfather was a military firefighter in WW2 :D I'm very proud of him
someone awesome as you should be!
The second i saw Benimaru's way of fighting i knew you were going to do an episode on him
promare has been in production since 2013, it didnt rip off of fire force. the fire force manga started in 2015, 2 years before promare was even teased. its just a coincidense.
As A Firefighter I will take any anime or Manga about firefighters
Firefighter! Daigo of Fire House M manga is pretty good. Also Tomica hero Rescue force and Rescue Fire are nice as well.
Thank you for putting your life on the line for others.
Uhh fire force is all I got
@@doctaderp9109 i got plenty more others beside Fire Force hoohoo
What made you want to become a firefighter?
to your earlier point about the sudden double shot of firefighting anime, even if both studios had these concepts on the metaphorical back burner, i would imagine the hellish KyoAni arson would be the tipping point for production.
on a happier note, my father worked as a volunteer fire chief when i was growing up, and since he took a liking to Pokémon Snap, maybe i’ll try showing him Promare at some point.
In America we call that tool the pike pole or the hook in Hook and ladder.
We mainly use it to break through drywall for ventilation and overhaul purposes or to pull burning debris.
This is probably one of my favorite videos you've created so far. Hearing about the danger those guys would put themselves in without the equipment we have today is, like you said, badass. Also I'd really enjoy another video of your experiences in Japan. They're entertaining and provide insight into a culture/society I'm not too familiar with.
People's value on life back then was different, too. People had lots of children and lived, fairly recklessly, because even those who were careful could still die from something as lame as a moldy piece of meat. They had to live vibrantly back then because the flames of their lives were as short and easily to snuff out as the flame on a candle stick.
Watching Fire Force I could tell that Benimaru's flags (the Matoi) had some kind of historical significance but I couldn't for the life of me tell what good something that looked like it was made of paper would be in a fire. But using them as a beacon of sorts kind of makes sense since they would be super noticeable against black smoke.
I didn’t watch the spoiler part, but I imagine those hooks were used for the same purpose as similar hooks that used to be used by western firefighters: tearing down buildings to prevent the spread of fire. That’s why many fire departments that have been around for a long time are called hook and ladder companies, those were their primary tools before water pumps and ladder trucks were invented.
TBustah yup, that’s pretty much exactly it.
Makes a lot of sense.
Well it's clear that Promare is mde by Trigger. I mean it has they artistic style and MC looks like Kamina from Gurren-Lagann.
RIP kamina
"Houses can be repaired. Lives can not". Pretty much the motto of all firefighters everywhere
SAVE THE EARTH!!! SAVE THE LIFE!!! KYUKYU SENTAI GOGO FIVE!!!!!
Really great video that does make me appreciated Fire Force more than I did. I enjoy the show for what it is, but I definitely felt like it had problems in its initial arc that have gotten better over time. This video gives me a better appreciation for the inspiration behind the show and gives me a better lens to examine it critically. Also I'm pretty sure Gaijin misspoke a bit as the protagonists of Fire Force are from Fire Force Company 8 not 6.
Heh I was just saying this "Japan may have some things you cann relate to in your everyday life but it's always veiwed through a very alien lens when you compare them" XD Demolition firefighters. Would have never guessed! Amazing story and summation you two.
we don't deserve this much of quality content, really makes me watch anime with a new perspective
Awesome to see you back I have missed your content. your insights are very unique and I appreciate them. And I'm happy to be the first commenter and the 7th viewer of this video
>__>;; It never went anywhere. TH-cam had halved my viewership since June. No idea why... Been kinda depressed about it.
What like the fires of New Orleans in the 1800's. There was one that would make the Edo fires a run for there money.
Barry Bend
I remember watching something about that. Back when the Louisiana Territory was owned by Spain, there was a fire that ripped through (what is now) the French Quarter. Back then, if there was a fire, you were supposed to ring the bell of the church to alert the fire brigade. The problem was that the fire happened on a Friday, and there was a law that forbade the church bell from ringing on Friday’s.
There's that fire that's been going on for years in that one abandoned town in Pennsylvania.
Western firefighters at the time were pretty close to Hikeshi in a lot of ways, being effectively gangbangas trying to protect their property and community-cum-revenue streams.
Hey Goomba have you ever thought about doing a Culture Shock on Eliza from Skullgirls? I know you’ve been doing a lot more stuff involving just Japan but I looked into her cultural references myself and it’s so much! It’d be cool to see your thoughts and a video from you about her
the 3 type of fire fighter thing
remind of an ep of pokemon where say they use the 3 different type in the blastoise line to combat differnt places and building as needed
ryan bell
I remember that one.
Meanwhile in ancient rome : fire fighting force used for extorting the owner for selling the place for cheap or they let it burnt into ground
True, but they were always more organised as these guys, eventually deputised by the city with some authority, and patrolled the place for fires... Which made them more professionalised as fire fighters but also an accidental police force. Rome - we're kinda flammable, Response - deputised mercenary patrol, wait no we just made the police.... ah whatever they tear down buildings too [then demand payment] (No wonder Crassus got so rich - yes he made a large fire fighting force and not coincidentally was the richest Roman of the time)
On a side note, Promare is FIRE!!!
Is this pun intended?
This was actually one of the most interesting videos you've ever made and now I'm interested in watching fireforce when I wasn't before!
he reminds me of kamina from tengen toppa gurren lagan this video was interesting I ll have something talk to my friend about
Hadn't realized how much I missed the Culture Shock series until you pointed out how long it's been. It's what got me hooked on this channel and your stuff way back when it first appeared on the Game Theory channel. Great to see it again.
I keep seeing Kimetsu no Yaiba stuff out of the corner of my eye. I might be mildly obsessed.
Ok, maybe not *mildly*, but still!
Thank you for again bringing a unique and interesting view into the Japanese culture. I have learned more about the Japanese and their ways of life listening to you and watching your videos than I ever did in any classroom. Please never stop teaching.
there is also a Tokusatsu series called "Tomica Rescue Force" who also have firefighters superheroes
8:04 the protagonists are from the 8th company, not the 6th.....
So, how did the people whenever their hikeshi were delayed from fighting other hikeshi.
Hikeshi: "Sorry, but they were going to put the fire out."
As soon as I saw Promare, I knew I need Gaijin to do a video about it. And here we are.
I always look forward to watching your videos cuz I know I'm going to learn something new about Japan every time I watch.
Just rewatched episode 11 and realized Benimaru said how fire and fist were flowers of Edo, and how Gaijin said the hikeshi fought each other to put out fires.
Having and anime based on fighting fire was a great idea we definitely need more like those two
Who wants to see him analyze the cultural philosophy of Kingdom Hearts?
Thank you for clearing this up for me! I knew there had to be some cultural significance in Fire Force and Promare is pretty on the nose with it, but knowing what was going on makes things make more sense. Great video!
So happy to see a new Culture Shock. Not that I dislike your newer series, but this is literally the reason I first subscribed to your channel and it's nice to see it still lives, even if only sporadically.
Keep up the great work.
Setting containment lines and then letting the fire burn out are also very much modern Australian firefighting tactics.
We use it here in the United States for our wildland fires as well
This....really explains Fire Force. I was wondering why they had Fire stations that either didn't cooperate with each other or were outright hostile, and had their own goals. This kinda explains it. Also explains how some of them were hodgepodge assortments of rookies, stragglers, and strange characters, while others were highly organized and apparently received good funding from 'somewhere'.
Firefighter gangs actually happened in the US too! most famously in New York. it only stopped being a thing because whenever two fire brigades would show up at the same place, they'd ignore the fire and have a street brawl instead while people's houses burned down in the background, so they finally had to sit down and lay out official districts.
I've never seen Promare...
BECAUSE FINLAND CAN'T GET ANIME MOVIES BUT APPARENTLY TROLLS IS OKAY?
...y'know, I just thought Galo's Matoi gear was referencing Kill La Kill. Yes, he went on and on about "a far eastern island" and its firefighting traditions, but I didn't realize that it was a real thing.
Thanks for explaining the popularity of Fire Fighters.
Hey, out of curiosity could you do a video based on the similarities between the attire of the Evangelist in Fire Force and the attire of Shugendo?
Can someone tell me how to watch gegege no kitaro. I mean there are so many versions, which one do I watch??
I've been waiting for a reason to watch this anime
As someone who has been really excited to see Promare, this was awesome! I also appreciate the spoiler warning, no theater near me had the movie so I'm waiting until it's out on Blu ray.
All I care is that the kid looks like Kamina and it's making me sad
"My matoi is the matoi that'll pierce the heavens!"
Once again Gaijin Goomba is giving us some fiery knowledge on culture
Reminds me of the time someone drew the Fireman Sam characters (season 1) in an anime style. Sidenote Gaijin can you please do a video on Welsh culture?
I swear to God, sometimes it feels like there are some conspiracies in the anime & manga industries when it comes to setting a trend.
Suddenly many anime has Imouto trope, then game world, then heroes, thick or muscular girls, then gyarus, then Isekais, MILFs, a man taking care of a loli, etc.
We're probably still in the Isekai era. I don't know whether the MILF era will last.
A-man-taking-care-of-loli trope may or may not be next.
Its market trends. Some will rise, others shall fall.
You forget to mention that even buildings were decorated with roof tiles and other charms to supposedly prevent fires. Most roof tiles have the theme of "water" as a pattern and other legends based on those very items and customs.
More proof I've learned more about world culture from you than I've ever had in my school years. Kudos, man! =D
The main protags are from the 8th company, not the 6th
永遠は無いんだと無いんだと言う
僕らは命の火が消えるその日まで歩いて行く！！！
7:39 Is there a legend of nurses/doctors beating the crap out of each other to get to a patient first - that would make a great manga/anime.
Not exactly what you're looking for, but look up Malta and the knights hospitalar
In Australia, with our yearly bush fires and easily burnable land we've got one the best firefighting forces in the world.
WHY can't we be as cool as the Hikeshi 😥
All firefighters are cool for being heroes.
Really love your videos! Look forward to seeing every new video you make. Fun fact, the demolition of combustibles is still an active practice of fire fighting today. Granted it's not used for tearing down houses or buildings to stop the spread of fires, but it's actually still used for forest and wild fires. Since dry grass lands and forests are literally packed together with highly flammable materials, one of the methods for fire suppression is the removal of materials. Mostly done by the states forestry commision. They specialize in the management and protection of our forests from fire, parasites, and the replanting of new forests. The states forestry commissions have bulldozers that they use to make "fire lanes" where there will clear the ground of small vegetation, grass, fallen leaves, and some trees in order to stop the flames from traveling further.
“... and they’d be willing to be put down by him if they turn into Inferno.”
BARELY CATCHING MY BREATH, LAY MY EYES ON THE CREST, AND I SWEAR TO ALL OF THE HEAT THAT IS LEFT! SO I CARRY THE TORCH! TO INFERNO, INFERNO- Oh wait wrong show lmfao. Dang I had to stop at 11:28 mark because spoilers! I’m waiting for that blu ray I preordered that’s supposed to come out in April, but I get the feeling it will be delayed because dammit quarantine...
Promare has to be my favorite thing right now cause if all the things it packs; I knew a bunch of the LGBT symbolism but learning about Edo period firefighters has been a delight. Thank you for even more learning! AND EVERYBODY PROMARE IS COMING OUT WITH ANOTHER SCREENING DECEMBER 8TH! When I say it’s worth it, it’s worth it. Most folks I know who saw the movie-including myself-have traveled hours to see this film multiple times! The animation is just....woah.
I'd love to hear more stories from Gaijin about his experiences when living in Japan.
Mose Humphrey isn’t as well-known as Bunyan and Henry, perhaps because he lived out his exploits in the city, rather than on the frontier. But he was a character just as legendary.
“Big Mose” lived in the rough and tumble Bowery area of New York City, with a physique that matched his nickname, and a demeanor suitable to the neighborhood.
Eight feet tall with hands the size of cast-iron skillets and a big granite-like chin, the red-headed Mose was said to have the strength of ten men and was known as “the toughest man in the nation’s toughest city.” He could swim across the Hudson River in two strokes, and all the way around the island of Manhattan in six. He puffed on a cigar two-feet long and exhaled the smoke so forcefully that it pushed sailboats in the harbor off course.
Mose thus cut an intimidating figure as the leader of the Bowery Boys gang. In taking on rival gangs from the Five Points, like the Dead Rabbits, Mose would hoist and lob giant paving stones and uproot lampposts and trees, wielding them like other men would a baseball bat.
Despite his rough exterior, however, Mose really had a heart of gold. A regular parishioner at St. Andrew’s Church and a dedicated husband, he was in fact best known not for his fighting prowess, but as the city’s best and bravest firefighter.
Firefighting in the mid-19th century was an all-volunteer affair, and the job not only required even more speed, strength, and stamina than it does today, but simply more bodies as well.
Heavy fire “engines” were propelled neither by horse nor motor, and instead were pulled through the streets of NYC by sheer manpower alone. Once the wagon arrived on the scene, its hoses were attached either to the city’s few hydrants or dropped directly into a body of water. The “fireboys” then had to work a manual pump to generate enough pressure to propel the water through the hoses and onto the flames. Pushing the wagon and manning the pump could require up to 30 men.
Firefighting was also a competitive enterprise. 4,000 volunteers were organized into hundreds of rival companies in the city, all of which sought to be the first to arrive at the fire, seize an available hydrant, and put out the blaze. Jockeying for position sometimes beget out-and-out fist fights between the companies, who simultaneously fought each other, and the fire.
In both battles, Company 40 had a huge advantage in being captained by “Mose the Fireboy.” He could easily drag the company’s “pumper” for miles by its rope, had an uncanny ability to walk through flames unscathed, and possessed the strength to remove any obstacle. Once, for example, a trolley card became stuck on its track and blocked the path of Company 40’s pumper. Old Mose just lifted it up, hoisted it above his head, and put it down out of the way. Another time, Mose made a tunnel to New Jersey to siphon enough water from the Hudson River to put out a huge fire in the city. And he always managed to rescue would-be victims of blazes - including all the children in an orphanage fire - even if it meant putting himself in considerable danger. When citizens thanked him for his heroism, he’d always reply, “I’m just doing my job.”One day, however, he realized his services were no longer needed. Responding to the alarm bells signifying a fire down by the docks, he dragged the pumper through the city’s streets, only to arrive to find streams of water already dousing the flames. The water was being pumped from a horse-drawn, steam-powered engine, a powerful pumper that only required six men to operate, instead of the two dozen who typically worked alongside Mose. And these firefighters weren’t volunteers, but trained, paid professionals.
Mose could see that the era in which every man could pitch in in an emergency, and epic strength was a valuable asset, had come to a close. He sadly pushed his company’s old pumper off the dock, and disappeared into the large crowd who had gathered to watch the professionals do their work.
Mose vanished from his old Bowery haunts after that day. Some said he had gone to California to mine for gold; others said he had joined the Pony Express.
But according to one storyteller, an old veteran from the days of volunteer fireboys swore he’d seen Mose around the city:
“If you want to know the truth about Mose, pay attention to me. He’s among us still. I seen him hanging around lampposts on cold winter nights. I seen him sleeping in burned-out old tenements. I seen him walking along foggy wharfs.
You could say old Mose is the spirit of New York. And when all them shiny new machines decide to break down, and when the city fire-alarm bell starts to ring again, watch out. Because by then, you know, that fireman will have grown to be at least twenty feet tall.”your description of Japan firefighter sound lot like united state of America firefighter.
Firefighters? Reminds me of KyuuKyuu Sentai GoGoV (aka Power Rangers Lightspeed Rescue in the West)
And here I thought the recent RESCUE-Ace archetype in Yugioh was random, but it actually fits the pack it was released in a lot.
Hi, i'm a big fan of your channel and everytime i go to your twitch channel cause i just saw that you begun streaming and i went over there and asked for a gift sub and got banned.
The moral of the story is NEVER ASK FOR GIFT SUBS, EVER!
This kind of explains why both MightGaine and GaoGaiGar have firefighter mechs as major supporting characters...come to think it, will Volfogg ever feature on Which Ninja?
It makes me wonder if any of the fire fighting games had any cultural significance. The only two I've played were The Firemen 2 and Burning Rangers. I know there's Mighty Switch Force 2 but that's more puzzle focused than fire fighting. (BTW you may have to import both. I don't know if Firemen 2 is still in the PSN store for PS3 and a US copy of BR is way too much.)
On the Subject of your Japan Stories, you could do it the same way you've been doing your videos or that one time you re-enacted those times you've been refused service when you needed a new stamp. Another idea would be to have it animated. If you wanna try that, test the waters using audio from one of your live streams.
I think it's time for SEGA to bring back Burning Rangers.
They also had an arcade title called 'Brave Firefighters.'
Not one but two anime analyzed? You spoil us sweet.
Also, heroic (redundant but apt) historical firefighters? Fascinating! I've actually got a rather hefty book on fire fighting, though it sadly doesn't mention Japan.
gangster firefighters
There was an old Sega Saturn animeish game about firefighters using high tech equipment, it was put out by Sonic Team and it was called Burning Rangers. I honestly would like to see more anime and manga like this, also even though there were spoilers I'll have to check that Promare out..I've already had my eye on Fire Force since I found out there were a lot of pile bunker style fire tools in the series..I actually need to get the latest couple of manga..and a better copy of vol. 10...mine was ALLL ganked up from the printer..like..images and words off the page due to printer error ganked up..I was in a hurry and didn't bother to check for stuff like that like I usually do. Just waiting on the anime to come to DVD..not gonna bother with it on Cartoon Network..I prefer subs anyway.
You know tokusatsu was the first one to bring the japanese firefighter to the tv screen in some episodes of Tomica Hero Rescue Force and the whole Tomica Hero Rescue Fire series (Crazy Kaijin, Gattai and Kaiju aside) Especialy with Fire-2 in Rescue Fire, the guy says it himself that his ancestors where Hikeshi!
I see the potential for an awesome board game!
If you're reading this, then I want to say thank you for this informative video on how firefighters/Hikeshi are viewed in ancient Japan. I thought their Mop markers were just a decoration symbol to their recognize the different Hikeshi groups. I wonder how they were prevented from being burned completely ?
This explains why a lot of japanese yokai involve, have flames on them, or can use flame powers; like the kitsune or nekomata. Just think what a single fox fire from a Kitsune could do in a crowded market... I think people forget that most japanese houses were little more then wood and paper. Also alot of their fabrics such as silks were highly flammable. AND most communities had some kind of forest near them. The ancient japanese culture was a pyromaniac's dream.
There's one thing I absolutely disagree with in this video. Galo DOES use his futuristic Matoi in the correct manner during the opening sequence. He's shot to the top of the building where he waves it around with as a spinning fan to clear the smoke, and guide the VTOL down to rescue the people trapped on the roof. It's certainly more modernised, but it's still a proper Matoi!
Fucking hell I love that introduction with the ducking back and forth between Fire Force and Promare. Really nice, had me dying.
before Fire Force and Promare we have a Tokusatsu show series titled Tomica Hero Rescue Force and it's sequel Tomica Hero Rescue Fire.
Can you do Indigenous American cultures in video games and tv shows?
Fire Force's manga existed long before Promare did, if anyone's the clone Promare is bit it's probably just a coincidence
I feel that I should apologise for my scatterbrain. Firefighting and the dangers therein are no laughing matter but all I had on my brain at the start of the video was "Kamina the Fireman" and what TTGL would be like if they were a group of Firefighters.
Especially galling when the content is legitimately engaging.
man was this cool I love both of these anime just cause I love the concept of fire but hearing the cool japanese history of firefighting in japan was freaking awesome great video my dude!
2:33, Pause. it's cool you used this picture. I Loved Magic Pengel: The Quest for Color!! A game made in part by Taito.
For which ninja, can you do Nightcap from both PVZ battle for Neighborville and PVZ Heroes. Pls?
I knew about the cool edo firefighter costumes, but your passion for the history made me want to go further and read more about this important force in Japanese history! Thank you for your delightful cultural videos!
Ok but some of fire force more refrences norse and christian myth
You mean the triangles in reference to the alchemist symbol of fire? Did a quick post about that one earlier.
@@GaijinGoombah oh didn't see that
christian myth: Saint Florian of Chur?
I would love to see a video on the Presence of Seiryu, Suzaku, Genbu, and Byakko in Anime. Pleeeeease.
*Sees demon slayer’s hinokami kagura scene.*
*Wonders what gaijin thought and reacted to it.*
you did a great job but you did get something wrong it was the tanabikeshi who were the under prepared and under supplied protecters of the chōnin's well the machibikeshi was the replacement system for the tanabikeshi as the machibikeshi were well funded well supplied and well trained. the machibikeshi would later go on to be Edo's only firefighting force by the time of the Meiji Restoration or at least what i learned
In regards to the question of why there arent more shows about Hikeshi... perhaps because of the switch to concrete buildings in many areas they died off in relevance and have thus been relegated to just the historical context. Of course firefighters are still around but I have to believe fires are FAR less frequent since the advent of non wood structures.
HEY GAIJIN GOOMBA. I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD DO A VID TALKING ABOUT THE UNDERRATED VIDEO GAME "SAMURAI LEGEND MUSASHI" AND WHERE HIS CULTURAL ORIGINS COME FROM.
Its cool to see the cultural significance of the fire fighters, though I now wonder about what significance the Burnish and Infernals might have. The similarities between them lead me to believe that they must be inspired by something.