Ren - Dumb King Come (Dotta Diss) - Grading Scale Reacts
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This is months old. There was no real beef between Dotta and Ren. Ren could have ignored Dotta's diss but wanted to respond in the spirit of Hip Hop. But he also wanted to stay true to his own values - he never wants to drag someone down, he always wants to lift them up. So he did that.
Ren has to stay true to himself.
You don't diss someone Who has an infinite amount of brain cells, don't mess with Ren .
Ren is a genuine person. You should know by now from Ren's stuff that he wants peace for the world. Ren was in the middle of his daily treatment when he dropped this, there is a good chance that could even be the hospital parking lot he is in. Most people who were engaged in the battle, agreed that Ren won this (including Dotta) - by essentially being the bigger person.
I agree
REN is not a battle rapper
But he could rip him apart fr if he wanted to
REN is after peace yes
REN is just a better person
What can I say ❤✌🏼💯
its the british sense of humour we take the piss out of each other
REN plays by his own rules. Plus he just entered the hospital in Canada and started treatment when he had to drop this. You may not be at the top of your game after having your blood drained and put back in ❤
Ren did this battle rap response to show he respects and understands the culture, but more importantly wanted to respond to the racist remarks made by Dotta in the 'receipts' he showed in the video.
The original diss by Dotta was also pretty mild, so Ren didn't feel he needed to (or wanted to) go in hard. Instead he wanted to put out a message which is far more important to him about unifying people and focussing on the things that really matter to him, like the corruption of money and power that divides society and that people of all races and religions should be uniting to fight these rather than fighting amongst themselves.
"I genuinely mean it when I say you should shine, I just played you at your game, so now welcome to mine.."
"...there's a new counter culture in this world of division, where we bicker over politics and race and religion..."
Ren offering a hand out to Dotta, was not Ren being too British or too polite or not understanding battle rap. Simply saying, let's all lift each other up and fight the real battles we face in today's society.
Once you check out Money Game, parts 1, 2 & 3, you'll get a much better understanding of where Ren is coming from.
Part of why I think Ren is struggling to be serious is that in the U.K. the culture is that you are rude to people you like, and polite to people you don’t like.
Go into any workplace on the U.K. and you will hear really cutting insults thrown around, but only amongst people who get along really well.
That's not wholly true I'm British and have worked in many different areas and haven't been in the situation where it's been a rude cutting remark work place , I have raised polite children I am polite and treat others how I like to be treated so its NOT a UK culture I don't know where this person lives and works !
True statement ...King Dotta was actually eating red velvet cake the first time he saw this diss.😂😂 How coincidental 😂 Dotta thought it was hilarious.
Almost - he said he’d had red velvet cake for breakfast that morning, not at the time…small detail but keeping it true :)
Totally understand your pov, but, context is important. First, it’s Ren. He’s trying to lift people up. Second, this was more of a friendly battle that was agreed to ahead of time. Dotta’s track is more traditional so you might enjoy that one more. FWIW, renegades did show Dotta love after this and he went from like 800 subs to thousands overnight.
And now Dotta killing it doing Ren reactions....who would have thought...lol.. thanks guys appreciate you👍👍.
In all honesty it's hard to think of Ren as a rapper... I mean how many rappers reference classic literature like Lenny from Of Mice and Men or mention David Attenborough from Planet Earth... Ren's is so well read and he puts in references to literature, religion, history. To Dotta's credit, in a way he did respond to this, he started doing some reactions on his channel and (no surprise) his Ren reactions are his biggest video's because Ren's fans did go and check out his stuff. Ren's a rising tide. (if you know, you know).
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" I mean how many rappers reference classic literature" None that I know of, because they don't have the knowledge, empathy, nor nearly the talent that's inside Ren.
Dotta challenged him to come back without a guitar or instrument and I think he did good for someone who doesn’t battle rap.
Y’all want that “ima kill u shit” but that ain’t the point. This ain’t the 90s and Ren be a new era not wanting to be fake with the violence shit. This isn’t “hit em up” biggie n Tupac shit lmao. Y’all is dinosaurs wishing for it to be ancient again. Ain’t nobody getting shot no more. These dudes is played out IMO
Dotta totally came around and is even doing reaction videos to Ren. Turns out he's a pretty cool cat.
It just goes to show what a simple act of kindness can do, ✌❤🐦.
Uk disses are different as uk take the piss out of each other! It don't have to be a yo mamma joke to be diss full
Yall acting like you about that life.. hilarious.
Cut him some slack guys....this is just Ren having fun. He says himself he's not a battle rapper. I think it will make a little more sense if you listen to Dotta's dis. Also, imo Dotta's dis is nothing more than an attempt to gain views on his own stuff...Ren eludes to this in his dis and he kindly gave Dotta what he wanted....that's Ren all over...Michelle's a dude btw
If you don't let things change, they will get worse. Battle rap is not fun when you have a bad attitude with it which has happened too often. What's the body count? Ren is not a hater and never will be. Listen to his One Million Subscribers video. If you don't get it, you may as well scratch Ren off your list and roll with the trash.
This hip hop! Ren or NOBODY above the program!
@@AlmostJokingPod
Hip hop is what your certain managers and producers allow.
If black people ain't pulling each down, they won't let you make any real money
F the programming!
Idk what you even talking about lol hip hop culture and the business of hip hop ain't the same. If you don't understand that, trying to converse about it is pointless. Hip hop was hip hop before money was in it
@@AlmostJokingPod
Your dad is too young to remember those days
smh
@@AlmostJokingPod the only thing you guys have been doing all along when you react to Ren’s videos is criticizing the worst bullshit. The music isn’t fixed, it doesn’t follow rules, it’s fucking dynamic, not static. With all respect, you are judgmental people, ignorant in terms of musical openness and sometimes racist, because as long as it is not a black person rapping is not good....
He didn’t do Cole!!
He did REN
Damn…
Yall are mean
Just because he can rap does not mean he should battle rap.. that’s just dumb..
Just Ren doing Ren things. He's his own thing.....
Reaction: I'd give it a C- because ... YOU DIDNT GET IT!
Dudes kinda funny though.
Part of the agreement Ren and Dotta had for this Battle Rap was that Dotta had to do a 1 take and Ren couldn't use a beat.
To understand you have to do the battle from Dotta to Knox this was the last. The idea was to end it. This was in the middle of Rens treatment in Canada.
Dotta now follows and reacts to Ren's videos . Ren put the beef to an end with this. Welcome to Ren's game.
Nope Dotta became a Ren reactor after this. True story!No if Ren said something super bad he would not be Ren.
Agree!!❤
The story behind this was that they challenged each other, so the disses on both sides are a bit tongue in cheek. I enjoyed both! One of the best reactions you'll see is Michelle Show, his face and comments are priceless when he here's the "lubing from the tip up" line. To his credit, he put some great "fatality" edits in, showing respect, whilst his ego was bashed! Ren is too nice to battle, but had a lot of fun with this!
Best quote No body wants to get shot anymore 🤔🤣🤣.
True that 👍✌️♥️🏴🤙.
😂 yeah, like they ever did. That was so funny.
“Dotta, Dotta is sick”
Maybe you missed other lines?
Also, you shouldn’t expect him to follow “rules”!!
He said "that's it"😉
Ren rose above it and responded to many of Dotta's lines.
Bloody clever and a banger.
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I Love how Dotta is Reacts to Rens music. I subscribed there after he made his first reaction video.
You've reacted to Ren enough to not be surprised at how he ended this, he's all about lifting people. Love the Demon Slayer shirt 💜
Learn the history you say you came from!!!!
Its Not New Wave. Its Old School!!!!
Sick is Good!!!!
Of Mice and Men! The novel! Lenny crushing skulls
Literary refs
Cultural refs
Musical refs
( Rage A, M also Daft Punk Get Lucky)
He said "Dotta, that's it."
No he didn't
Ren had no beef with Dotta..it all started with Dotta dissing Knox Hill and Ren...Michelle show chimed in...Ren then put this out.
If you want the traditional disses, you have to check out Knox Hill's Stan Remix and Patiently Waiting 24 hours later. Their are hard. It started with Dotta purposefully misunderstanding a Knox line. Knox buried him. But this is a Ren Diss. As he said, he is not about dissing. The win here for me is him not playing the game.
You guys haven’t taken the time to get to know who Ren is. He is not a mean, disrespectful person. He prefers to lift people up. ☮️❤️😎
this is way better than C if u watch King dotta diss u know why Ren did no beat
Ren is a nice guy - keeps it real, fr ❤
Edit to say Ren is right - war in the streets means a mother at a grave.
Should have done mine first
Agreed. Context is everything and this clearly went over their heads where as you got it 100% and that was cool of you. :)
Yeah definitely 🎶✌❤🐦.
It's all about Respect nothing else. Don't be to old fashion guys just saying,,,,
Trad battle rap accapella. Just showing you beat so you can keep it in your hear!
This is the basement of the hospital he was in having treatment in!!!!!
Ren Roasted Dotta and then Roast him from Dead! Trust me you've never seen this better.
Ren is always genuine... He's a pure soul ❤
Oh I see, you are still stuck in the old school instead of getting it.
Ren /destroyed/ Dotta with this /because/ he brought love instead of hate. There was absolutely nothing Dotta could do to reply to this and Dotta admitted that and he totally respected this.
Many reactors who have done battle rap for years have loved this because Ren approached it as battle rap and did it well (in their view) and then flipping it was Ren saying, I don’t promote hate, or division. He showed respect to the culture then said “I’m out” and *mic drop*
You don’t like it, it’s cool - the people involved had fun and gave great entertainment to a lot of people. I guess you’ll stay stuck in the past, but if it keeps you happy, good for you.
I’m gonna give this reaction a D…
youtubers he mentioned Duane reacts,,Crypt,,Knox Hill. They all make music too
To find out more about the King Dotta Knox Hill Ren battle(s), digging deep into Ren's community page might help.
King Dotta dissed Knox Hill, who chose to ignore Dotta entirely. Knox had a featured song called Killshot at the time, that's where some of the references in the battles are made to. Later King Dotta dissed Ren with Kingdom Come, and in that diss, he side sniped at Knox again. Knox then came running
You the only one who put the links accurately
@@DOTTAisKING Thank you! I'd seen a playlist starting with Knox' Killshot and Ren's Murderer or some such, but while that may be encyclopediac or whatever the word is and correct in that sense, I thought that'd distract from this.
Ren didn't say 'shy', he said 'shite', which is English slang for trash. It can also mean foolish or deceitful. Don't think Ren offered Dotta any collabaration or 'on-stage live rap battle' as you call it either. At least I haven't heard Ren say anything like that or any one else for that matter. As far as I know, Ren and Dotta agreed on doing a live one take for their diss tracks, and even though Dotta didn't keep his side of the agreement, Ren still delivered. Ren posted this whe he dropped his diss:
''Rap batteling isn't my thing, I try whenever I can to lift creatives up, but a few weeks ago I found a video on Michelle show's channel of him saying I was trash blablabla, then I spotted a few comments from this guy King Dotta, claiming the only reason I was getting any kind of traction was because I was white, I did a little digging and found out the guy had dropped a diss on Knox Hill, and then had made multiple videos dissing some reactors and rappers who seemed like genuine good people.
When I was a kid I used to get beat up in school, I hate bullies, and an area I know I can stand up to most is my lyrics, so thought i'd have a little fun.
I knew i only had to slightly poke the bear and he'd probably fly off the handle and make a diss track about me, so I gave him a little prod, and very predictably here we are. What I didn't expect was Knox to go in on him HARD and chaos to break loose.''
@@LazyGrey Thank you Lazy Grey, you are absolutely right, I had misheard that one as "shy", which indeed makes no sense in the rhyme scheme there: white - right - /ex-wife/ - shite fits so much better than "shy".
I've been looking through the lyrics pages, and about half of them had "shy", so I had been not the only one mishearing...
@@sorenm.lairdsorries7547 No worries! I wasn't sure the first time I heard this song either, but shy just doesn't make sense, as you say (but not just in the rhyme scheme, also in context of what he was saying). ''The reason people don't f* with you, is because you are shy'' That just sounds weird and not something Ren would agree on, I imagine😅
We all were expecting so much more, that is, a beat and perhaps a lyric video. But what we got was pure Ren. He is not a battle rapper. He added a very slight bit of beat. But his cadence is always amazing and the lyrics were fabulous. It was refreshing--which is ususal for Ren. It ain't for everyone though. Two things to remember here. Ren is nice as hell. Ren actually respects Dotta. Once again, Ren is not a battle rapper, and he is not bitter.
if you didn't do it u should do King Dotta diss to ren and Knox hill and then do Knox Hill diss to King dotta
I just love how Ren managed a double by starting and ending with flowers. A unique entry in battle rap. Glad Ren participated, and Dotta got some attention. “A rising tide lifts all boats.”
P.S. You missed the funereal bagpipes at the end of the video; they always make me crack up.
He said that’s it!!
Dotta said bad about Ren
Ren returned, but ended it with love.
Ren won hands down with love, he is just a golden soul. ❤🙏
11:36 guys Ren is not a battle rapper he doesn’t just do rapping guys damn
If you had listened to Dotta's diss, he said that Ren was too skinny to lift bars. Thats where the weight thing comes in.
He said this is it , not dotta sick. Respect for your opinions. For context, Ren didn’t wanna battle, I’m pretty sure he don’t have a nasty bone in his body.he did it in the end to flip the racist and trolling shit Dotta was doing to turn it into something positive. That was the premise of the whole thing. You guys should watch his one million subscribers defining success video to understand him more and where he coming from.
Yes yes!!🙌
REN is truly above that garbage
I went and checked out Dotta because ren asked us to
And damn..
Dotta is mean and vulgar and sloppy and negative
Ain’t nobody interested in that bs from what I see
REN is a refreshing ray of sunshine ☀️
We need more sunshine in this dark dark world
Don’t try to make ren mean
It isn’t becoming ❤✌🏼
Sick being a positive expression ... "that's sick man"!
I believe Dotta had said something about Rens beats so he came eithout one!
Emotional roller-coaster holy shit 😮
I kinda see your point guys 😊Unpopular opinion: I think Ren here didn’t really try hard to “diss” king dotta 🤔(which may, in a way, be considered even more disrespectful for not being serious with him). I guess he didn’t really care, it was more of a personal branding move (literally his way to react to bad things). How do I know for sure? I don’t BUT we’ll see…(if he’s ever gonna get mad at someone one day)
Here’s one of his lyrics “You know I'm staying grounded when I grind up my beef
But if you got a problem, my brother,
I might just put on some rubber gloves
And just choke you 'till larynx ruptures,
And blood, it just bubbles up
And the bubbles just double up, and you struggle, but luck is up
'Cause I'm subtle at covering up the trouble”
Maybe I’m tripping 😂 but I appreciated the way this video sparks critical thinking! Wish you the best! Keep it up 🔥
These guys know what they’re talking bout, they are black.
right, because if you are not black you should not rap... so tired of those bullshit
With respect, I think you missed it. You want a punch out, I get it but this cat is not that, he’s more cerebral.
The core dis is Ren saying you so low I don’t even need to be in this with you, you lost before you started, I’m so far above you I can can afford to be kind. You started this so where you at now man? You’re just small & pathetic. Clearly you need my help.
End battle. Imo there is no viable answer to that for Dotta.
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Ren doesn't want to stir up any stupid fued. He talked to King Dotta after the track was released and they came to terms. Basically King Dotta went after Ren without hearing his music and Ren didn't want to go to hard on him. Since then King Dotta has been reacting to Ren's music on his channel and his view of Ren has changed.
It all worked out at the end and yes "people don't want to get shot" over nothing.
You read the room wrong fellas
Ren is an artist that could fit just about anywhere, not a hip hop artist. He ain't got time but to make genius music, go for treatment and be a respectful human doing it. Ren is about giving different perspectives and solutions to conflict in this world. Haters going to hate. Smarter than most of us. This was a message not a battle rap, just rens response. Mid because he wrote it in 10 minutes. My last stop here, thx fellas good luck to you ✌🏼
Not my favorite either, this whole diss was lame from the start, i thought all 3 sucked!! But the other 2 had production and ren clearly didn't give a 💩 because he didn't even make a beat.
Here's the sneak- Ren sent a million fans to check out Dotta. Every new like or subscribe Dotta gets, he has to wonder if Ren sent it. It's the forever ratio.
I completely understand your point of view, but am thankful for this diss as it has introduce me to the rap battle scene, great comments guys, it helped me understand a little more of the culture, cheers!
My friends. We are all humans , color makes no difference.. he gave Dotta love, way is that a bad thing?
I reckon you guys missed the whole point & many references went right over your heads. Shoulda watched Dotta’s first….
Why didn’t you laugh at the viagra joke? It was hilarious
Brits say sorry about everything all the time! 😅
Dotta reacts to ren now. Check out his videos. Also check out knox hills diss track. My favorite thing about this track is watching michelleshows reaction to him being called out
you are right, Ren does not want to hurt anyone. I get your points, he aint really battle rapping.
Watch Dottas diss of Ren it makes Rens response make sense.
Yeah your all talk and never listen! You had no comprehension of what he was saying at all!
Dotta now reacts to REN videos
You cut before he had the bagpipes come in again. Dis just not Rens style. Much love ❤️ Sue
what really funny is day ren drop this king Dotta had red velvet cake that morning
Cotta now reacts to ren and loves it
You guys had to react his band big push at this point and had to see his singing skills
I love how you were banging on about REAL hiphop and the old style of diss tracks whilst missing all the bars like a court ordered recoving alcoholic!
Get lucky/daft punk
Rodent/mice and men
Rage against the machine
Planet Earth/David Attenborough
... and tons more. You weren't picking up on anything. The only ones you DID pick up on were the cheap, fat jokes, and you moaned about it but then went on to miss anything a bit more intellectual or clever.
I get yall not being all that into it, but I think you are missing it. This is way out of charecter for him. Dude doesn't go after people. I saw it as he didn't go stuff himself into some box that aint him and was true to himself. I don't think it would have worked if he tried to put on some "i'm a hard rapper" ish. And British battle rap isn't light. They got some talent.
As usual...
Point
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You guys.
J Cole PTSD diss reaction, I love it! 😂
Everybody gotta check out the LIVESTREAM!
lol bro you can always tell the randoms and the subscribers based on the comments lol. The funniest comments be the ones giving us stuff about not knowing the backstory. Mmm that's kinda the point of any artist we react to lol we purposely don't want to know
Stormzy responses to Wiley Disses are brutal. Check out Dissapointed and Still Dissapointed
you are just judging too much, you didn't even understood ren like at all. stop being so critical and closed-minded, when even after watching few music videos you are not able to understand the artist you are commenting. I’m tired of you criticizing literally everything and not even trying to see things from a different (even musical) point of view. i'm tired of that shit onestly.
We dont tend to fat shame in the UK
Dotta can’t compete with Ren. No offense.
If you guys want a hard diss track, Yelawolf “Bloody Sunday”
Reading the comments here.
So hear me out. I've been a Ren fan or as it's now called a renegade for couple of years now. I've listened to all his songs and other creations and some a lot of them over a hundred times probably. And I really, really love what his doing.
BUT
Those guys watched this from a battle rap diss track perspective which the title implied it was. And from the frame of diss track it was hella soft. That doesn't mean it was not entertaining or anything. I personally liked it very much. But from a point of view of battle rap it was not that good. That's it :)
Fire reaction guys 🔥
This reminds me of that Eminem kick off thing lol
Please do michelleshow diss "The White Room"
C is fair much as im into Ren generally.
If it’s a battle you should’ve done the homework to at least hear the version of… you know… the name on the title? Not hating, just a suggestion.
Ren ocean or penitence please 🙏
If U want disrespect... My Me VS Knox playlist is on my channel.... I need a few unbias eyes
We most def will check it out. Maybe we will react to it!
@@AlmostJokingPod I promise you'll go crazy
Play the next 10 seconds
It’s supposed to be mid
Lay this over an old beat & it’s fine
The stepping reminds of begging my dad to take me to see
“School Daze”
A Spike Lee Joint
He left his kid in an auditorium movie theater & I watched the whole thing!
I was Twelve
I am older than y’all
And hip hop raised me
I’m a blonde haired blue eyed dude that’s almost 50 & done heard & seen it all
Music is generational
I’ve been raised in the dawn of hiphop & my melanin might be based
Like farmer tan type shit
But rap & hip hop just like rock is trash lately !
I get what Ren is doing and he even said he isn't a battle rapper and he doesn't want to be that kind of rapper.
But I agree with the guys you can't go this soft if you going to make a "diss track" you have to go hard or just don't do it all.
But I understand, it doesn't really fit Rens image to be to disrespectful but don't even make a diss track then.
If you going soft and even shouting him out saying to check him out and he is sick then what is even the point of dissing at all.
The point was to end it…and it did. Dotta got the message and it was all fun for everyone.