Why does Lopetegui want West Ham?

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  • On Monday, West Ham announced that David Moyes will leave the club when his contract expires in the summer.
    After a prolonged search for Moyes’ successor, it seems the Hammers have landed on Julen Lopetegui. So why have West Ham chosen the former Spain, Real Madrid and Wolves manager over other candidates?
    And for Lopetegui himself - what is it about the project that has made him turn down the allure of Bayern Munich? Host Ayo Akinwolere is joined by David Ornstein and Tim Spiers to discuss the how next season could look in east London under Lopetegui.
    00:00 Intro
    00:16 West Ham & David Moyes
    01:11 Moyes’ departure
    06:30 Lopetegui & West Ham
    10:08 Is Lopetegui the best candidate?
    14:18 Evolution of football
    24:29 Lopetegui’s style of play & West Ham transfers
    29:39 What the fans should get excited about
    31:46 Outro
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  • @tonypap1
    @tonypap1 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +200

    May I remind you sensitive souls of how Moyes arrived at WHUFC ? Both times, he negotiated with David Sullivan mid-season and whilst the existing managers Bilic and Pellegrini were under contract. And, furthermore…… he was appointed all very publicly as a result of their sacking. They didn’t have the luxury of reaching the ends of their contracts. So, please spare us the “boo-hoos”. Moyes has benefited from and has been complicit in the same grubby dealings of David Sullivan.

    • @mightymog100
      @mightymog100 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

      Agreed.... As you know Geo just made that point!!!

    • @tonypap1
      @tonypap1 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      @@mightymog100
      Yes he did. And an accurate one too

    • @DavidGreen-ot2ni
      @DavidGreen-ot2ni 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

      But these pundits only see poor Moyes. He's derided the fans on many occasions,pushed away the likes of Fornals,Benrhama and Kehrer,ignored the youth and conceded 70 goals in the making. Terrible manager

    • @liamfraserobrien
      @liamfraserobrien 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Luxury of ending contracts that’s a West Ham luxury not moyes.

    • @tw25rw
      @tw25rw 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      It's normal. Clubs hardly ever sack a manager without having a new one ready.

  • @DigitalNomad.1
    @DigitalNomad.1 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +45

    If the Brighton manager said in Jan he's not deciding on contract until the end of the season and they started lining up possible replacements early everyone would be going wow look how pro active and well run they are praise praise praise

    • @dicaniowhu
      @dicaniowhu 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      😂👏

  • @markanderson6969
    @markanderson6969 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +79

    Moyes got the job whilst another manager was still employed

    • @keithvandermotten9715
      @keithvandermotten9715 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      Twice

    • @VallanoMedia801
      @VallanoMedia801 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You mean when Sullivan got rid of both and brought back moyes

    • @thunderjoy7250
      @thunderjoy7250 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So that makes it ok then.....the agenda🙈...wrong is wrong

    • @markanderson6969
      @markanderson6969 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@thunderjoy7250 no it doesn't make it ok but you shouldn't condemn one issue without mentioning the other

    • @thunderjoy7250
      @thunderjoy7250 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@markanderson6969 that's correct...but because some fans wanted moyes gone they want to act like it wasn't wrong...

  • @hammertic
    @hammertic 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    😮 Were the West Ham board seriously supposed to wait for. lord Moyes to make up his mind before looking out for a replacement ?

  • @JB-cq6wg
    @JB-cq6wg 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +55

    Let’s have it right: Moyes has left West Ham in a terrible position:
    * £500m Spent
    * Oldest squad in the league
    * Smallest Squad in the league
    * Relegation battle last season
    * Awful second half this season
    * conceded the most goals other than bottom 3
    * More touches in our 18yrd box than any team other than Sheffield UTD

    • @jackoberto01
      @jackoberto01 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Tbf it's difficult to put all the squad related decisions on him. Especially this season when we've had Steiden. We don't really know who took those decisions.
      However Moyes is good a alienating players he doesn't want. We've had two of europes best strikers in the last few years and let them leave for pennies

    • @JB-cq6wg
      @JB-cq6wg 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@jackoberto01- Moyes was offered multiple players and refused ALL as he only wanted Philips. This is true and Moyes said same. “I prefer a small squad” + He has spent £500m to get us to this current “stage” 🤣

    • @jackoberto01
      @jackoberto01 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@JB-cq6wg Sure but it shouldn't have been his decisions to make to begin with. I hope that we only employ head coaches instead of managers from now on so we can build a philosophy and squad that can work with other head coaches.

    • @JB-cq6wg
      @JB-cq6wg 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@jackoberto01 - His renegotiated contract gave Moyes final say on transfers. Hence when offered he could turn them down. He also wanted to increase the age of the squad by McGuire and McTominey 🤣

    • @seasons7510
      @seasons7510 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      4 trophies won since formed 1 by David moyes

  • @hammer159159
    @hammer159159 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    i don't agree on treating him with respect. he was treated the same as the 2 managers he took over from. He was on Bein sports laughing when asked if he was returning to West ham to take over from Pellegrini. mid-season and a week later Pellegrini was fired and he was in place. Bilic fired mid-season and Moyes took over within 2 days, he clearly spoke to West ham in advance both times.
    How do you expect West Ham to act when he has less than 2 months left and Moyes insisting he will decide later. West Ham had to do their due diligence to look for a replacement.

    • @yaaska2001
      @yaaska2001 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Pellegrini was dogshit didn't deserve the respect Moyes does.

  • @gror7849
    @gror7849 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    I think its a great match. Lopetegui is a great coach and West Ham has financial power to satisfy the transfers he needs.

  • @bhasb9067
    @bhasb9067 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Kudus, and Alvarez were Steinten/Nobel signings. If Moyes had had his way he would have wasted it on Maguire and McTomeney with no resale value.
    Moyes cannot find a system for a quality striker like Ings, or Halle, or Scamaccar. Cornet and Benrahma also could not fit in. Aguard and Kherer frustrated. Lots of money wasted for his ego.
    I was neutral until a few weeks ago.
    I suppose you lot need your expenses paid lunches with Moyes.

    • @jharris-coyi
      @jharris-coyi 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      And kudus and Alvarez only got a chance cos of injury’s to the likes of Antonio, not because Moyes was going to give them a place, Moyes would have said , had he had harlaand he needed time ,and still by Xmas he wasn’t ready

    • @ricochet2977
      @ricochet2977 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@jharris-coyi
      Moyes would have probably converted Haaland to a centre half 😂

  • @IggyGoesPop666
    @IggyGoesPop666 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +62

    At last, The Athletic does a broadcast about a team who are outside of the top 6! Firstly Lopetegui would be a major and I mean a MAJOR upgrade to Moyes. WHU have the oldest and smallest squad in the league due to Moyes mismanagement over the last 4 years but the good news is that Steidten has a war chest of over £100m to spend and that doesn't include the £85m that they will get if Pacquta leaves for City. So this new Moyesless positive team of Steidten and Lopetegui can build a much younger and progressive team around Kudus, Bowen, Alvarez and the Pacman should he stay ... happy dayz and good night Mr Negative Moyes

    • @ruzziasht349
      @ruzziasht349 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Upgrade? hahaha he'll be gone before Christmas, you West Ham fans are becoming as entitled as Spurs - Seriously mate, West Have been knocking around 7th all season which is where they deserve to be. West ham are not a top 5 team.

    • @KM-yg1tb
      @KM-yg1tb 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      @@ruzziasht349It has nothing to do with you believing we are entitled! Lopetegui is not much different to Moyes. We have suffered through disgusting performances,4/25 wins, 70 goals conceded….he didnt win the Conference league, we won in spite of him&thanks to Bowen and Paqueta&Fiorentina not being on their game.
      Any right minded fan would happily take 10th but attacking football!!

    • @wf.718
      @wf.718 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Moyes has won 3 games this year! Lets give him another 3 year's should we? ​@ruzziasht349

    • @mammal1988
      @mammal1988 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      ​@@ruzziasht349 who mentioned top five team? I feel like you are arguing a point that wasn't made.

    • @IggyGoesPop666
      @IggyGoesPop666 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ruzziasht349 What's the matter ash, don't you have dreams & aspirations in your life about supporting a smaller team that might improve and punch above their weight? Let me guess, you support someone like Man Utd or Liverpool, winning teams even though you don't come from those cities but you ended up supporting them as you needed something positive in your sad life ... what a loser

  • @DavidGreen-ot2ni
    @DavidGreen-ot2ni 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    Tim Spiers obviously doesn't recall Moyes at Sunderland and Real Sociedad. He also only got 1 more point than Pelligrini and the last 2 years have been relegation performances. A cup win that any manager in the PL could have achieved with that squad

    • @razorwestham5949
      @razorwestham5949 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      These pundits for moyes never listen to truths David. They are all arse wipes. I don't even listen now to any of them and most think we should respect this narcistic prick too. I only watch the games on all teams when they start ans switch off halftime talk too. Ex players and ex managers will never say anything bad about their fellow team mates or managers that undermine them. Tim spews is another example of lies and arse wiping

  • @edavis6077
    @edavis6077 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    What was west ham supposed to do? No look for a manager when Moyes himself says he may go.. worlds smallest violin.

  • @tw25rw
    @tw25rw 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    For me, the change in style needed is to not concede 5 against lesser teams when we need a win.

  • @marcnoone7719
    @marcnoone7719 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Moyes had no problem taking to West Ham when bilic was still manager!!!

  • @Wuerro777
    @Wuerro777 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Moyes deserves everything he’s getting

  • @JB-cq6wg
    @JB-cq6wg 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Moyes can’t have it both ways:
    * Moyes took the job while another manager in the job
    * Moyes has been saying he will make the decision. So West Ham are in their rights to look for another coach

  • @MrBillUp
    @MrBillUp 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    21:11 For all this to come to fruition, one thing needs to happen. Sullivan needs to keep his nose out of the every day running of the club. He cannot have anything to do with it apart from write the cheques.
    I was dead against Lopetegui taking over the coaching role, but after listening to Tim, I'm a little more enthused.

  • @cwakerly
    @cwakerly 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Thanks for unbiased opinions on this subject. It's nice to see you are not jumping on the bandwagon to vilify the west ham fan base.

  • @IAmCrumpton
    @IAmCrumpton 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    Why are all the media so biased in supporting David Moyes? Is it coz his British? It’s a joke. I’ve never heard them talk about other clubs when replacing their manager to ask if they disrespected the leaving manager? Never. But now everyone cares how Moyes is and how he feels etc. haha it’s such rubbish

    • @possessedslig
      @possessedslig 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      There's definitely something funny going on. Look at the smear campaign Talksport has waged against West Ham fans this last month. There's more to it than meets the eye.

    • @t.c.4321
      @t.c.4321 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      They hate West Ham

    • @ricochet2977
      @ricochet2977 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@t.c.4321
      You have to assume so, let’s be honest it’s most coverage we’ve had in donkeys years 😂

    • @cz7425
      @cz7425 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's because they detest any clubs outside the "Big 6" having any ambition at all. In their minds, lowly West Ham should be grateful for the top8 finishes and the Europa Conference League cup, and for West Ham fans to want any more than that is something they aren't allowed to do. To them, only fans of clubs owned by Saudi Oil Tycoons are entitled to ambition.

  • @IggyGoesPop666
    @IggyGoesPop666 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +57

    The truth about the GAS LIGHTING David Moyes, these are not my options as they are clear FACTS!
    1. When Moyes took over from Fergie in 2013 he sacked all of his back room staff because he wanted complete control of all of the aspects of the club. 12 years later the club have not recovered from his incompetence
    2. Having been SACKED by United in 2014 Moyes moved onto Real Sociedad where he lasted a year with a win rate of 29% before being SACKED AGAIN
    3. During Moyes time at Real Sociedad he did not make any attempts to learn Spanish. Sometime later Moyes got a new rule introduced within the Scottish FA that all new managers getting their required badges had to learn a second language even though HE NEVER DID!
    4. In 2016 Moyes joined Sunderland where he got them RELEGATED after achiving an amazingly low 19% win rate. Just like Man Utd, Sunderland have never recovered from it!
    5. Moyes agreed to take over the WHU manager job whilst Slaven Bilic was still in charge 2017 (Slimy or what) for Moyes to then go onto having a 29% win rate even though Bilic win rate was 38%
    6. In 2018 WHU decided not to extend Moyes 1 year contract so they brought onboard the 10 yes TEN managerial trophy winning Pelegrini as their new manager. The board had a knee jerk reaction in sacking him 18 months later in 2019 when WHU were in the relegation zone and sacked him when there was a good chance that he would have secured Prem League safety had be been allowed to carry on.
    7. So the club decided to bring back David Moyes who previously had a 29% win rate to replace Pelegrini who had a win rate of 38% (the same as Bilic)
    8. Moyes steadied the ship over the next 4 seasons whilst "AS HE LIKES TO TELL EVERYONE" that "HE" won them their first cup in 40 years ... and he did ... but look at the FACTS ... as the WHU had given Moyes over £500m worth of talent over the past 4 years. The really amazing fact is that this sum of money was MORE than ALL OF the teams that WHU played in that European competition COMBINED!!!
    9. Moyes has an amazingly concerning history of hand picking players himself that cost the club tens of millions to then play them out of their proffered/ natural positions because they simply do not suite his style of football, so how shocking is that. Numerous players have been purchased and then shown the door in under a year at a MAJOR FINANCIAL LOSS ... Haller, Scamacca, Anderson to name but a few.
    10. WHU has one of the best academies in world football at the moment but Moyes simply will not play these players even in cup competitions against lesser teams like Bristol City who funny enough beat them
    11. Considering the £500m that Moyes has wasted over the 4 years, he is leaving the club with the smallest and OLDEST squad in the Prem League.
    So there you go, just a few FACTS about the useless snake oil salesman David Moyes who for some really weird reason has the football media in his pocket as they constantly patronise the WHU fans with ignorant statements like "Be careful what you wish for" as these clowns don't pay to watch the narcissistic one trick negative pony David Moyes terrible so called football

    • @NebulousYouTubeGamingChannel
      @NebulousYouTubeGamingChannel 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      Fantastic, if only the media looked at this rather than press the idea that West Ham fans want to play like pep and be in the top 4. The club is falling apart because of his mismanagement and we need a huge rebuild.

    • @whufcgank6124
      @whufcgank6124 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Absolutely spot on mate, you should find a way to make that post very public.

    • @Brian-oc1dj
      @Brian-oc1dj 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Just brilliant truthful, so sad Scamacca Benhrahma etc, and and..... Haven't I heard somewhere 'Benny' said he plays freely now. I'd love them two back at THE IRONS. Thank f****k Moyes is gone a useless prick

    • @stevewells167
      @stevewells167 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      That's the best reply I've heard ever!! Well done mate your a better man with words than I could ever be. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻. Top man.

    • @harrywix
      @harrywix 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      This needs to be read more widely. The media just ignores that the level of sheer waste and incompetence has been staggering. It was nice to win the ECL but we only faced 2 decent teams and rode our luck. But there was that great Paqueta-Bowen moment....

  • @harrisx420
    @harrisx420 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    You take him on as manager then see how long you last till you want a new manager at the club you support. See how long you guys put up with the low block.

  • @MrMaroonmen
    @MrMaroonmen 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    After a run of 4 wins in 24 " its not a good look for West ham " OK, then name the last 10 PL managers to last 4 1/2 years.....

  • @AS088
    @AS088 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    West ham need to overhaul the defense this summer

    • @512Squared
      @512Squared 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yep. They tried with Aguerd, thinking him and Zouma would be the perfect pairing, but he's been injured or inconsistent.

    • @4p-is-3
      @4p-is-3 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Absolutely. Emerson the only one I’d keep.

    • @hamiltonmews
      @hamiltonmews 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@4p-is-3 I think Mavropanos will come good. Needs to iron out the silly mistakes, but alongside a better defender, he should be ok.

    • @jesuscruz7033
      @jesuscruz7033 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Yes and no, it’s hard to keep a clean sheet when you let your opponents take multiple shots on target. Those are bottom half team tactics

    • @mammal1988
      @mammal1988 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I think mav and aguerd maydo a lot better under loopy tea guy.

  • @paulnicklin3645
    @paulnicklin3645 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    West Ham will need a number of new players to bring into the squad, this needs to be actioned as soon as the season comes to an end. Lopetegui will need new players in for pre season training to get them use to his style and tactics and bedded into the new system, exciting season ahead COY Hammers.

  • @noelculpitt3578
    @noelculpitt3578 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    We have the elite DOF and finally will run the show ...we need a football coach now cos the football is rubbish and one dimensional ...we are a wealthy club with 60 000 plus fans and it is time to push on now .Spurs are in the position we aspire to and falling short ....not easy .Sadly DM plays Zouma as captain and he cant even run ...aint rocket science or sunday league ...needs some leadership

    • @Gma2021
      @Gma2021 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yeah I think you hit the nail on the head here. A step up for us is 5/6th/7th regularly which is around spurs level. No one is saying we expect to fight for the title. But just that step up from mid table.

    • @noelculpitt3578
      @noelculpitt3578 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      we have the finances but infrastructure has toi change ....relegation was an issue when DM recruited ..but getting top 6 is a different animal ...lets face it ..its city ,arse,lpool.mufc, & others biding for top6 ....we have 60 000 plus buying into project ....not a small club now COYI

  • @DavidGreen-ot2ni
    @DavidGreen-ot2ni 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    David Ornstein,Pellegrini and Rice himself made Rice the player he is. Moyes didn't nurture Rice.

  • @jharris-coyi
    @jharris-coyi 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    You mentioned that moyes was happy to have kudus, even though it wasn’t his choice, kudus only got an early chance cos Antonio got injured, before that we hadMoyes doing his usual saying he needed time !

  • @bazzacool213
    @bazzacool213 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    thing is wh fans never asked to win the league top four or Europe I would love all 3 we just want a better standard of football, whole squad to be used not just pushed to 1 side like broken toys, and most of all youth development

  • @montanaprime
    @montanaprime 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    The Dark Days? 😂😂😂😂😂 this geezer talking like we were Norwich? Come on man. We were not that desperate

  • @colinparks619
    @colinparks619 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So the club should have waited even longer than they have, 7 or 8 games this year where they have conceded 4-6 goals with a defence based manager....then scramble and face critical press and fan reaction.
    Thank you moyes , you have given us amazing memories , thank you for the memories and conf league title , but now is the tight time for everyone

  • @danielberry4765
    @danielberry4765 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Why does nobody want Bayern ?.
    West Ham have some real quality players Alvarez, Ward-Prowse, Kudus, Paqueta and Bowen.

    • @Sp1NNN023
      @Sp1NNN023 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      i mean seriously? nobody wants that job after what they did to Neigelsmann , 1 loss at Bayern gets you sacked. A club who can't cope financially as Premier League teams but expect to win everything. Not even Pep wants to go there anymore.

  • @audialiastt2601
    @audialiastt2601 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    CLEARLY, not "a mutual decision" for Moyes "to part ways"! IMO, It was CLEAR, Moyes was NOT gonna be offered a new contract because he'd been running the squad & club like a circus. Moyes has limited skills as a club manager and has traits of a Narcissist. Imo, he was NOT disrespected, he is just deluded. He did the disrespecting. Yes he won the newly invented, low 3rd tier Con Cup. In my opinion, any decent manager who had spent £450 mill should win a 3rd tier Cup. I doubt very much Lupetegui was ANYWHERE close to getting a Bayern job.
    Finally, Moyes's "trajectory" has CLEARLY been DOWN. We were 6th b4 Christmas.

  • @noelculpitt3578
    @noelculpitt3578 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    its only the 'Moyes In' crowd giving the negative vibes ...JL will walk if he dont get what he wants .Geezer managed Real & Spain ...jeez ..respect the man COYI

    • @VallanoMedia801
      @VallanoMedia801 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Actually it is the moyes out crowd who is telling us they do not want julen

    • @possessedslig
      @possessedslig 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      There's been toxicity and negativity on both sides. Everyone needs to stop pointing the finger and remember we all support the same club.

    • @VallanoMedia801
      @VallanoMedia801 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @possessedslig I support west ham and I am not uniting with those who constantly hounded moyes out of the club and then want to call us names for supporting a manager who raised expectations of europe

    • @ricochet2977
      @ricochet2977 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@VallanoMedia801
      Sullivan makes the decisions, he has never listened to the fans before, so why would you think he’s listening now?

    • @VallanoMedia801
      @VallanoMedia801 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ricochet2977 already know Sullivan is the one who makes the final decisions

  • @hammertic
    @hammertic 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    😮 Guillem Balaguie speakes very highly of Lopetguie

  • @dbanksey216
    @dbanksey216 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    David Moyes knew he was leaving West Ham around 5 weeks prior to his departure. We were on a West Ham Legends Tour at the stadium, the Legend at the time knew he was going. He said a Foreign Manager was being brought in.

  • @robinfrost5439
    @robinfrost5439 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Just like to add that because west hams net spend for the last 5 years was 8th it doesnt mean it has to be for the next 5 years ..Also i would think over the last 3 years their net spend maybe higher than 8th (Moyes spent a lot of money) ..its seems they didnt mention west ham having the 2nd biggest crowds in the premier league over the last few seasons
    (though not sure how much difference thats makes to overall club finances)..One more thing ,, and we all know this,, is the fact that clubs cant spend their money freely anyway (no matter how much they have) because of FFP of course ..so many of their negitives to west hams possible rise in profile may not be valid

  • @davidryley4162
    @davidryley4162 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    He has a hell of a jigsaw puzzle, on his hands.
    Moyes put the pieces together, without looking at the picture, & put the pieces in the wrong places.
    Hope JLO Can put them where they belong.

  • @thomasarcher9178
    @thomasarcher9178 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Have had enough with fans and reporters of other clubs lamenting west ham and west ham fans for their 'treatment and lack of respect' for David Moyes. The whole attitude is dripping with condescension. Moyes has been very good for West Ham at times but has also had quite a bad league performance last year and a diabolical one in the second half of this year. In terms of recruitment and organising the squad, the best buys have been lead by Steidten and the ones that haven't been great - JWP and i assume Phillips have been Moyes. Moyes has been on record as saying he likes having a small squad which has been one of our biggest issues with injuries and in europe. West Ham are in the top 20 most valuable teams in the world, they have the right to not accept an old fashioned, stubborn manager who increasingly sees his side get turned over. Also hes out of contract in the summer, of course WH are going to be looking at potential replacements even if Moyes wants to carry on. These same journalists would be complaining at wh for not doing their due diligence if Moyes continued to be awful next year as Ornstein suggested

  • @noelculpitt3578
    @noelculpitt3578 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Am excited about JL ...chose us over Bayern haha ....he is smart .my first time watching channel and you guys are bang on

  • @hammertic
    @hammertic 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    😮 If it's lopetigue he will definitely prioritise the full back positions.

    • @terry5123
      @terry5123 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yea he does prioritise the full back position we’ve got ait nouri one of the best players in the prem he’d got no time for him and wanted him bombed out in fact he wanted creswall to replace him

  • @BJ-WHU
    @BJ-WHU 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    A good honest assessment from a West Ham die hard supporter . Cheers 👍⚒⚒⚒

  • @traxop1902
    @traxop1902 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    The only disrespect shown is on the part of Moyes not having the decency to resign at end of last season.

  • @stevewells167
    @stevewells167 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I really enjoyed that thank you lads, it gave me more confidence. COYI ⚒️ ⚒️ ⚒️

  • @fedorn972
    @fedorn972 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    More importantly, why do West Ham want Lopetegui?

    • @unclem7816
      @unclem7816 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Coz he's an experienced decent manager who's won the Europa league.

    • @Mad_Titan_Paresh
      @Mad_Titan_Paresh 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      And he's free 😂

  • @jfreycarbajal6044
    @jfreycarbajal6044 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    That AC Milan hashtag campaign was exaggerated

  • @user-us5ms4cv5g
    @user-us5ms4cv5g 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Moyse has been disrespected, 😂 laugh, I nearly cried , after more tham 55 years of going to watch my o ly team, He! Often disrespected my loyalty, give me a break , if I was on his earnings as well, one cup which we were never going to lose, the rest has been nothing to shout about 🤔

  • @mattking7230
    @mattking7230 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If Moyes was offered a contract and publicly announces he's might not sign, the club has every right to start searching for a new manager.

  • @vernonharvey5657
    @vernonharvey5657 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Moyes contract will come to an end next week and will not be renewed, what else are the club supposed to do? I don't get this perception Moyes is an exceptional defensive manager, West Ham have conceded more goals than all but the three relegated teams - and still have City to play. The issue is not in attack, the problem is defense and a rebuild is needed. A striker is badly needed, but West Ham had both Haller & Scammacca and both are playing in European competition finals, it was Moyes who had no idea how to play them

  • @Crevulus
    @Crevulus 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Ornstein and Spiers on good form here. Succinct responses, insightful tidbits, really good back and forth.

  • @seabeanmanorbier4106
    @seabeanmanorbier4106 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great analysis fellas 👌

  • @dannysmith2040
    @dannysmith2040 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The love in Moyes gets is down to his inside dealings with agents and the public sector. They are all pals, it’s unbelievable these journalists keep up this poor old Moyes crap ! He treats players with no respect and bully’s female reporters! He has no respect for the fans and has no accountability! He doesn’t deserve respect he’s a helmet 🪖

  • @mikelawrence4601
    @mikelawrence4601 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good luck lopetegui 🤞🤞 wish you all the best next season 👍

  • @STYLIX_
    @STYLIX_ 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    why was ai art used for the thumbnail

  • @paulnicklin3645
    @paulnicklin3645 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Will Lopetegui bring in his own training team and staff and change the present setup 🤔

  • @LagerWeStand
    @LagerWeStand 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I didn’t know Rob Newman was at West Ham. I’ve not really heard anything of him since Mary Whitehouse ended

  • @MrPETEHAMMER
    @MrPETEHAMMER 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The only concern these Pundits should focus on is the West Ham board…their pass decade ownership model is the worrying consistent.

  • @stephenlaws1836
    @stephenlaws1836 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Our best chance of climbing the league, is getting good people in the important jobs . We've made a start with getting Steidten . We need to get Sullivan out of the operating structure as much as possible, until hopefully he leaves . Money isn't everything, we need to be much smarter & more efficient, off the pitch .

  • @daniellastuart3145
    @daniellastuart3145 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    like that Structure

  • @daniellastuart3145
    @daniellastuart3145 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If Villa and Newcastel can brake in to the top 4 West Ham can , the big six money boys are not all as strong as they were in the past

  • @JB-cq6wg
    @JB-cq6wg 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The coach is not nailed on yet either.

  • @TacitusKilgore165
    @TacitusKilgore165 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cuz theyre the second biggest club in England after City, who wouldnt want the West Ham job? Great club great supporters i wish Julien best of luck COYI ⚒️

  • @Laggskywalker
    @Laggskywalker 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Manager doesn’t sign contract, owners decide to be proactive and secure the clubs future and plan transfers for the next season. It’s standard business operating procedure. The club has done nothing wrong. Change the soundtrack you’ll all be touting Ten Hags job whilst he’s still in the job.

  • @50pence59
    @50pence59 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Up to 15 players could leave Eest Ham this summer.

  • @stevenstiles6584
    @stevenstiles6584 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What a brilliant, informative, professional podcast

  • @fazza______342
    @fazza______342 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great pod chaps. I think Rob Newman has left the club. Can anybody confirm?

  • @robertcowie8230
    @robertcowie8230 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It would be funny if the Hammers sign another coach , you guys got it wrong

  • @leewoodard5871
    @leewoodard5871 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Won 4 games in 5 months. He's lucky he's lasted this long. From a possible European place to barely 10th. That run of form is a sacking.

  • @garyrutland1119
    @garyrutland1119 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Excellent podcast full of interesting information.

  • @davidsovereign439
    @davidsovereign439 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Waiting on your video on Moyes , going for the Chelsea and Brighton jobs ??????????

  • @samarthdev4470
    @samarthdev4470 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I don’t understand the hype around this man, he is the most overrated manager in football.

  • @jakubparadowski3688
    @jakubparadowski3688 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    to clarify, Spanish Federation knew that Lopetegui is going to Madrid after the World Cup;
    they sacked him because the spanish press thrown a tantrum about this and Rubiales' ego suffered;
    it was a mess, like everything in spanish football who is run by small minds and gigantic egos

  • @brianbellchambers8368
    @brianbellchambers8368 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    West Ham's "success" in the last 4seasons has been DESPITE Moyse's tactics. Hopefully we can now attract some more quality players and get nearer to Championship League qualification where we deserve to be, COTI

  • @HawkinsFamily
    @HawkinsFamily 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We have also gave Moyes his first trophy of his career and 500m to do it. . So let’s get that right. Before u all try be pundits that know what ur on about . We are where we supposed to be based on spend

  • @cz7425
    @cz7425 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I believe it's simply because West Ham are massive.

  • @daniellastuart3145
    @daniellastuart3145 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Kudus recluse dose not come in to play tell 2025 that next summer and Paqueta might stay now

  • @TonyHammer61
    @TonyHammer61 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Tim - if Moyes refused to give a decision to his employers until the end of the season why should West Ham wait to identify his successor? It would be madness. Save us the crocodile tears please

  • @huwwilliams9470
    @huwwilliams9470 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He hasn't acted with integrity, he's never taken responsibility for his crap form, he's turned on the paying fans, he blames everything on others even after the many many embarrassing results he recently blamed that on losing dec rice. Come on, he had over 100 million to invest in the squad with that money. If he was any good we'd have been far more effective. He can only play low block football. He's been been hellish lucky in any decent results we've had this year. The cup we won was against teams we'd expect to beat.

  • @sajica58
    @sajica58 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Did i just hear Ayo say "great defensively" about Moyes? West Ham have let in 70 goals! only the bottom three have let in more!

    • @daniellastuart3145
      @daniellastuart3145 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      yes but due to some poor defending by some Brocken defenders and thats an area we have to look at

  • @edavis6077
    @edavis6077 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    3 wins in 2024. Moyes disrespects his own players and fans constantly. I thought you lot knew football. All he does is make good players worse and bad players average.

    • @ruzziasht349
      @ruzziasht349 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You'll never see three consecutive years in Europe again...... how do I know? I'm 61 and had to wait 44 years since the 1980 FA cup final.

    • @512Squared
      @512Squared 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Rubbish

    • @ruzziasht349
      @ruzziasht349 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@512Squared what's rubbish? I waited 44 years since 1980 to see us win something. You sound like an entitle Spud fan, we're not top 6 - we were exactly where we deserved to be for most of the season knocking around 7th and 8th. This new guy is just a Spanish Moyes, and there's a good chance he'll be gone by Christmas.

  • @edavis6077
    @edavis6077 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Lots of money, low standard owners. Great academy.

    • @ruzziasht349
      @ruzziasht349 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @edavis6077 Low standard? come on, everyone loves a Dildo!

  • @stevewebb8181
    @stevewebb8181 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Tim you said his been at west ham four decades lol and if you don't know about the new manager and Spain why are you even commenting you don't know much your cred is floored.

  • @jarraharundel5142
    @jarraharundel5142 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is the thumbnail edited?!??!

  • @markwilson4991
    @markwilson4991 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That's what irks a lot of West Ham fans the "careful what you wish for" nonsense spouted by the pro Moyes media. As a season ticket holder the terrible football we had to endure was the real reason he's going. We have had enough of it

  • @dontwannaname
    @dontwannaname 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Moyes to Bayern? 😆

    • @spelf
      @spelf 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      defo

    • @ogyamatta6903
      @ogyamatta6903 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Moyes to Liverpool

  • @t.c.4321
    @t.c.4321 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The amount of double standards and Gaslighting in the media to our club is baffling... almost laughable.

  • @jamesbong4928
    @jamesbong4928 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He chose West Ham because rain, hail or shine, the fans get behind the manager and players 🤥

  • @pageyboy2732
    @pageyboy2732 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My first dip into the Athletic. Excellent! I'll be back 😊

  • @rogergirling8180
    @rogergirling8180 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sorry but Moyes did not develop Rice.That waa Pellegrini

  • @pasquale6173
    @pasquale6173 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Real question, why does west ham want him.

  • @Moyesiah123
    @Moyesiah123 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i dont agree at all with what you said about how they handled the situation

  • @chrisloynes7796
    @chrisloynes7796 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Money or am I being stupid 😮

  • @IbexDoesYouTube
    @IbexDoesYouTube 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As a wolves fan , west ham should stay away wouldn't touch him with a 6m pole

  • @danielradley4464
    @danielradley4464 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Moyes hasn’t been disrespected. Pull the other one 😂 Moyes chose not to sign a new contract months ago and delay. So what was our board and co meant to do? Sit around twiddling our thumbs until we get answers? Makes logical sense for our owners and Steidten to have been having these conversations months previous before the announcement in case moyes didn’t re-sign. I’m glad we were prepared for a change.

  • @martinishmael9490
    @martinishmael9490 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    West Ham were poor with Declan rice last season as well

  • @neilporter9983
    @neilporter9983 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    OK Tim. If youre so upset at west ham looking at a manger whilst Moyes was still in position, what are your thoughts on Moyes taking the Talksport gig or should he too have waited until the end of the season 🤡

  • @tomwood118
    @tomwood118 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why are the media so patronising to West Ham

  • @terry5123
    @terry5123 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    JL v Moyes David Moyes anytime

  • @user-vc1nt1kp2n
    @user-vc1nt1kp2n 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well, he didn't. He wanted Milan

  • @ruzziasht349
    @ruzziasht349 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Looks good on paper but let's not forget Lopetegui was at Real for 14 games, Moyes and Manchester United for 51 games. Lopetegui at best is Spanish David Moyes./

    • @jamesfitzgerald6636
      @jamesfitzgerald6636 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      What is your problem, can’t hear?

    • @ruzziasht349
      @ruzziasht349 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jamesfitzgerald6636 If you can't tell, then I'm not sure why we are conversing. I find talking to those with low IQs tiring. Please don't reply. Thanks.

  • @scotland9922
    @scotland9922 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    if Moyes wants a job somewhere, am sure they be many a team looking at him

    • @unclem7816
      @unclem7816 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Who? Name them.

    • @p90497
      @p90497 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Doncaster Rovers

    • @edavis6077
      @edavis6077 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      He destroys clubs and players

    • @basementsnaxx
      @basementsnaxx 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Probs go Man City when Pep goes to England

    • @ogyamatta6903
      @ogyamatta6903 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Liverpool wants Moyes. He knows that Environment and sorroundings

  • @ValyrianPrince
    @ValyrianPrince 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Tom is so miserably cynical sounding