In the 1990's I used to drive through Harmondsworth every day but never actually stopped in the village. The destruction this poorly planned runway will bring is true vandalism. It will also subject an estimated one million people to more noise and pollution. The alternative would be to annoy some multi-millionaires around Gatwick where only grass would need to be moved.
Why. The solution. Stay at home for your holidays. The only reason it is expanding is because it’s overcrowded by the public flying. You start at home, there’s no need for another runway
You can't have your cheap labour demands, coffee shops with cheap labour, restaurants with cheap labour, cheap housing with cheap labour. Products & services with cheap labour. Then cry victim when the system you've bought into (and profited from) demands the infrastructure to expand & continue
Explain how the third runway will increase the supply of cheap labour? Are you implying that's the purpose of building the third runway at Heathrow? The majority of imports into Britain enter via sea. Seems like you've made two unconnected points here. You'd also have to justify why a third runway would have to be at Heathrow and not one of the alternatives which would cause less destruction and pollution.
@@JohnRogersWalks Globalisation. Increasing aviation capacity and immigration go hand in hand. They are a countrys assured driver for greater GDP. Any reduction in expansion by one country will simply be absorbed & advantaged by another country. For example, since the admission of Poland to the European Union some 465,000 Polish workers joined the UK labour market. Air transportation facilitates easier migration, makes short-term, long-distance migration viable, and allows migrants to maintain contact with their home country. Do you really think the visible demographic changes in the UK with their empirical effect on the working class wage packet is not linked to the exponential growth in air travel?
@@JohnRogersWalks The merchants of globalisation couldn't care less about environmental destruction and pollution UNTIL they can exploit its tax payer to consume more 'green' product to buy the guilt. (Pushed heavily by their youth propaganda wing Greta & Co) You sold your land and now they sell it back to you (leasehold) as 'regenerated' and 'eco' friendly. Expanding runways, along with tower block after tower block and new citizens are the fruit of this economic system. You can't have one without the others. Progress. You're just not meant to notice the breakdown of civic values, law and order, rising violent crime and anti social behaviors. Part and parcel. And you're not meant to notice you will 'own' less and less (They own the product. You hire it on demand) Lifetime leases & metred economic. models. But you will be happy because the average human prefers the lack of responsibilities with instant gratifications. We reaped what we sowed.
@@JohnRogersWalks I don't think the anticipated millions of Hong Kongese will be coming by the slow boat from China. Nice that we've built so many new apartments for them to choose from.
Was a life long Labour Party supporter. Not anymore. They sold the working class out decades ago. Prioritised the vote from 'marginalised' minority groups to get power. Sowed hatred and division within them to maintain power. Sold the country out to big business. Companies & Multinationals which became more powerful than countries themselves. We now harvest their vision. The millennium dome, now the O2, the perfect metaphor of the country. Burger bars, chicken shops, coffee stalls and pop music surrounded by concrete sarcophagi and kids stabbing kids for a mobile phone. 21st Century Britain.
I used to live in West Drayton when I got married 40 years ago and know Harmondsworth well, so it was great to see this video. Anyone who wants to know more about the area, the changes wrought by the Airport, and more generally should seek out the books by Philip Sherwood who was my father-in-law and sadly died earlier this year and is buried in Harmondsworth churchyard, close to where John was walking. He was a long term campaigner against the airport since the government compulsorily occupied the Heathrow area near the end of the war, supposedly because Britain needed a new airforce base and hey presto at peace it was the ideal site for an airport, which ironically was for several years housed in tents and marquees! He was also a campaigner and leading light in the fight to save the Great Barn (not a tithe barn as it was a community resource for storing crops not where the big landowner stored their 10% cut of produce). Well worth seeing inside when lockdown allows. The same applies to Harmondsworth church which has a fine Norman doorway hidden in that almost always locked porch.
Found a link to this video on a local FB group! Its only 3:30 am and i watched the whole thing! It is totally tragic what is happening to this area. The history around here and the old buildings. You were not terribly far from the third oldest inn in england, the ostrich inn, at colnbrook! I grew up in longford, infact in the house on your video, next to the white horse pub! The first house in your video has an old quaker graveyard in it. The bridge with the heron in the river, it never used to look that way. We used to play as kids in the river there and in those days, you could walk under the road and straight onto the grassed area at the end of the runway. Many times our unruly dog followed me and ran about there 😳 There also used to be 3 more old huge barns that we used to play in, besides the one you walked past. The whole village of longford is under the compulsory purchase zone and will be wiped from the landscape forever. It is so terribly sad. Brilliant video. V glad you didn’t seriously hurt yourself when you fell. Interesting that you decided to live in the uk with your (i assume) australian wife! Think i would have rather stayed in oz! Will subscribe to your channel and watch more of your videos, but i think i will do it after i get more sleep! Thank you from a grateful insomniac!
It takes a special kind of CHUTZPAH to whine about the expansion of Heathrow, and then regale us of a tale of going to Australian one April during a snowstorm!
How exactly? Surely it proves that Heathrow has been operating fine with two runways and a third is unnecessary. I'm all for demonstrating a "special kind of CHUTZPAH" in other circumstances but you're missing the point here Crawford
The main problem is too many foreigners that don’t care about our people or past and actually want to erase as much of our history as possible along with us
you're acting as if foreigners in general have an agreed and unspoken plan to erase english heritage (and people?) which is a bit daft and paranoid. if there was a conscious process of erasure (which i'm not sure of in the first place), foreigners would have to be blind and oblivious agents in that process. unless you believe they actually had a sit-down and decided it was time to topple the united kingdom. this community doesn't strike me as the type to welcome far-right rhetoric in its comments, anyway. they just want to enjoy some fascinating videos. so kindly take it elsewhere
@@desapole “too many”...... not all... But 1 is to many in my eyes... don’t like our history or people... Leave Simple isn’t it. Yet the government is allowing them to spew their hate everywhere
I'm so glad that you didn't injure yourself badly John. I hope the pain goes away soon. I loved this video, especially near the end when you explained about your trip around the World and how you met your wife. Thanks for brightening up my Sunday evening. After a long shift at work, it was just what I needed before bedtime. Have a great week ahead! 🙂👍
These politicians need to take a walk like you around Harmondsworth and maybe just maybe they’ll reconsider? If they’ve got any respect for our beautiful towns and villages the plan of demolition would be halted immediately. Good work John and thanks.
That'd be great Chris - I heard how the politicians reacted when they went to Stratford to visit the Olympic site before the bid - most of them had never been that far East
The BA building, is BA's headquarters building Waterside, which will ironically be bulldozed to make way for the third runway - after less than 25 years, built at a cost of £200m or ~£10m/year!!
@@JohnRogersWalks Thatcher privatised BA years ago.. Although it immediately went into profit on the basis that the properties now owned by BA hadn't been revalued for something like 30 years.. Including that huge terminal in Victoria, former HQ of BOAC, I think?
Absolute tosh. You can preserve the best of the old whilst simultaneously bringing about the best of the new. Novelty isn't always adaptive, necessary or good.
Such a wonderful, varied walk. As usual, it is a pleasure to vicariously follow along. Here's hoping the Heathrow Airport expansion is blocked for the duration. It is more important than ever to stop over-development and to preserve places like this. Sorry about the fall too, gosh, what a shock--hope that leg is ok.
@@JohnRogersWalks, oh yes, I'm sure, especially now that the pandemic seems to finally lifting--this sense comes through in this walk. Anyway, I always look forward to viewing your next walk, "wherever it might be"... and am sure that your passion for walking will always see you through. These walks you share have definitely helped me and I'm sure many others, get through challenging times. So, thanks again for all that you do. :-)
Being from the US I'm just amazed you weren't approached by airport police menacingly quizzed as to why you were walking around recording, hauled into their office, detained for hours, then just unceremoniously told to go home and don't come back. That you can in fact walk up to the airport blew my mind. Gosh I love England.
thanks for that dose of perspective Allan - I do know people who have been approached by Police for photographing near the airport in the past but there were surprisingly few people around at all
At last, something has popped up in the YT recommended list which actually interests me. Thanks for taking us with you on your walks - much appreciated!
This has made my wkend. The Great John Rogers in my home town . West Drayton I’m so pleased the last you have done this walk as there really is a lot of history in this area . Thanks John
It is depressing that they want to push forward with this when we should be trying to roll it back. If there is one thing the pandemic should have taught us, it is that an awful lot of journeys are now unnecessary, particularly those related to business. Hope the leg is ok!
That was my old home town, The borough of Hillingdon, although I lived in North Hillingdon, that would be a great walk from Hillingdon to Uxbridge an ancient saxon settlement, and home to the RAF . Hope your leg/foot is ok John and you are able to recover for next weeks walk. A Great video
What a fantastic walk John, so sad to think all these beautiful places being destroyed . I hope your foot gets better soon, was so pleased you made it back to the station.
The two or three times I've stayed at an airport hotel, I've always wondered about Longford when I passed through it on the bus. Absolute tragedy if they demolish it for a runway.
I lived in Hillingdon all my life. We often have snow flurries in early April, I even remember it in May one time. Just takes a snap in the Jetstream to throw some arctic weather our way. The end of April can still see frosty nights but some lovely warm sunny days. 22nd / 23rd always seems to mark the break in the cold weather. So many beautiful balmy St.Georges days spent on Uxbridge common. Quite normal, some years are colder than others but this is nothing out of the ordinary. An old English saying is " March; in like a lion, out like a lamb" some years no-one tells march to quit 😉
@@captainboing many years ago I was blessed by being in a relationship with an incredible Spanish lady who always found it odd that the British talked about the weather so much; "It's because we have it." Says I, "We jave weather in Spain too," she replied. "Being an island and not a continental land mass off the cusp of an even bigger continental land mass, shielded from the rougher seas save you..." says I, "...from leaving the house in war. Sumny weather, that clouds over, rains but ends up a beautiful tranquil evening. Spain has: sunshine that is either really warm or hot, alternatively for a few short months it is really sunny still, but cold. There isn't anything to discuss." Amazingly after she spent a summer here she actually understood, I can almost hear her now say: "Guy what is the weather, has it forgotten how to make it's mind up?"
Gutted that place under threat amazing weather this weekend Congrats on getting out great vid I did the Lesnes abbey then woods then your root over the hilly woods even found Rockcliffe gardens felt sad how rundown they looked
It's not Harmondsworth that's potentially facing being wiped off the map, neighbouring Sipson would also go. Both would be flattened and would disappear forever if the Heathrow third runway gets built. Two towns obliterated. It's utterly tragic.
Yay he lives to walk another day , big shout out to those women who were executed for ????? Being outside the norm . I really hope they scrap this third runway ,xxx
Hello John. Don't know how I missed this film from two years ago, especially as it is of special interest to me having grown up in and around the West Drayton area. The beautiful River Colne ran right at the end of our road, and the Rivers Frays and Pinn were very nearby too. An idyllic childhood, it was, mucking about in those waters. Good to be reminded of how beautiful this area of Middlesex still is, despite the proximity of the airport and expansion of the towns. Fingers crossed that the third runway obliteration doesn't come to pass.
I hope your leg is okay! Thank you for posting this-- it makes me so sad and angry to think that all that lovely landscape and those village homes and pubs will be destroyed. Will they actually destroy the Norman church and the precious tithe barn??? Gads, I hate this government.
Hello John. Lovely area, but planners take great pride in destroying beautiful places. All that history. All those lovely houses. Knocked down and buried. When they’ve succeeded in building runway 3, they’ll decide that’s still not enough and want number 4. History is there to be cherished, not buried under tons of concrete and tarmac. Makes me angry and sad. That was a nasty fall down that bank. That sort of thing is followed by 10 minutes of wondering what damage you might have done. Luckily, you got off fairly lightly.
Great video but also sad and deeply disturbing about the idiotic proposed demolition of these gorgeous villages and the emotional distress needlessly given to the locals involved. I honestly believe that when the 3rd runway is built and operational, the planning department at Heathrow will start discussing how to convince everyone about runway 4, say 10 years after runway 3? Where will it end? In many years to come 10 runways and 15 terminals or am i being optimistic? John Holland Kaye, the outgoing ceo of Heathrow, who pushed very vigorously for expansion plans of ANY kind for Heathrow, will be greatly enjoying his diamond encrusted golden hand shake when he leaves while these villagers will be evicted from their home whilst paid a pittance of their homes market value. Also I'll bet my last penny that his home is nowhere near the flight path of any airport. I'd have a good laugh if john holland-kaye's house was the subject of a compulsory purchase order because its in the way of HS2, which is yet another total carbuncle!!!!
Go back and make a new video in 20 years time, taking the Piccadilly Line to Terminal 6 (or The Barns Wallis Memorial Barn) and reminisce outside Sunglass Hut about the Lost Villages Of Hillingdon.
Here in New York Metro old buildings can be declared "Historic Sites " and not be touched.What is different in the UK? I dont understand how a Thrid Runway would even be possible Perhaps either yourself or subscriber could explain Much Appreciated ! Great Vlogs !
I lived in Greenford for two years so this part of Middlesex is known to me. Harmondsworth looks beguiling and certainly does not require a runway. Travesty if it goes ahead. Enchanting content, Jnhn. Hope your leg is better.🇯🇪
Each time I watch one of your videos, I always wish my interest in history would have been there at school - but I didn't have you as my teacher, so perhaps that's why !! Another great video with great facts. (*_*)
That walk was so enjoyable. The history alone was so interesting, I was born in Hillingdon so this was extra special for me. I do hope you recovered from your fall with not much damage done. Thank you so much.
The latest from the government U.K. Supreme Court gives Grimshaw's Heathrow expansion the go-ahead in defeat for climate activists. ... Grimshaw's plans for Heathrow include the addition of a third runway and a glass-ceiling terminal building, both of which would allow the airport to increase its capacity to 140 million annual passengers by 2050.29 Dec 2020
I used to be mad on planes when I was a kid. I would cycle from Slough through Colnbrook to London Airport, as we called it then, to watch Viscounts, DC3s, Comets, Stratocruisers and Constellations. there was a little field where plane spotters were allowed to sit. I remember the thunderous noise and the black smoke of my first Boeing 707 - I lived in Iver by then. What would that child have made of the decades to come ?
oof! that tumble was alarming! i do hope that your leg wasn't too badly injured and that you healed quickly! i'm particularly glad that you made it to the station in this episode without too much distress - phew!
Now having watched many of your videos ( after exhausting Joolz Guides ) I thought it was about time I left a comment! Your and Joolz’s styles of presentation are of course very different but equally entertaining. I really enjoyed this video. I used to be fairly neutral on the idea of a 3rd runway until I visited Longford. We’ve stayed at the Thistle Heathrow a few times pre flight and last time we were there decided to walk up the Bath road to the White Horse pub for dinner. It’s really small and quaint inside and the landlord was really friendly. I was really surprised to find such an olde world village just the other side of the airport perimeter and can now understand why the local people are so angry about the runway situation. It’s totally unnecessary and sad for these villages. Hope you’re feeling better after your accident. Looking forward to your next walk!
many thanks for that story - glad you've found the channel. My leg is on the mend thanks - must have to rest up for a few more days but I'll be back out there in no time
Its not under threat anymore. The World Economic Forum has decreed air travel shall be prohibited for all but essential travel. Nothing us peasants need to do shall be considered essential.
Really enjoyed the walk and as always very interesting. Hope the leg’s ok. I would love to see a video of your planned walking “campaign” for this year.
I hope the leg is OK! I'm a bit sensitive to freak accidents at the moment as my wife cut her hand in the kitchen last weekend and managed to sever a tendon. Fortunately they stitched her back together well! So interesting to hear more about your trip around the world. I left my own home country of the US in 1995 and never went back. I didn't really plan it that way, but that's what happened. And, as always, thanks for the walk. I'm glad you took this opportunity to document the area and raise awareness of what might happen to it. I'm hoping that it won't come to that.
Well, that was strange! Your channel just appeared and the first video showed you walking through the town where I grew up, West Drayton, and then onto Harmonsdsworth - where we would visit the pub on a Sunday afternoon. Thank you for all of the interesting historical info. Looking forward to watching your other videos.
It's a shame to think that villages like Harmondsworth and Sipson will be lost under a runway, The Great Barn is definitely worth a visit, I do regular work at Manor Farm Barn in Ruislip, also worth a visit although it is closed most of the time, there is a monthly farmers market, check for dates
The thatched pub surrounded by half derelict houses in Longford has been a bit of limbo as it looks the same as when I stayed at a bnb there 10 years ago.
The thatched Pub and Barn would make an ideal buildings relocation, to a fitting location elsewhere, it would take some funding though, at these times you wish the God's were smiling and the Lottery came in! Yes, I know it's a pipe dream.
Hi, I used to live in West Drayton, few things to say John. It’s worth checking out the small Green at West Drayton near the church, some lovely old buildings there..& Southlands Arts Centre is worth a walk around near the Green.... If you come back to head to Harmondsworth you can walk through the Closes park and the housing estate over another M4 bridge which takes you directly into the Moor. It cuts out that busy road you walked down. The wildlife over the Moor was amazing and I often heard a cuckoo in the summer.... I was part of the group who saved the barn(as it was owned by an off shore company), luckily we got English Heritage involved who fought to buy it & they carried out sympathetic renovations.... it is truly amazing so do try & get back there to see inside..lovely you went to this area...
Yes, a walk with a difference - you did part of it lying down. Hope the leg is OK! Amazing to think you seem to be in the middle of nowhere but only 40 minutes from the Tube! And I reckon the Enchanted Ox would be a great pub name.
John, your videos are always such a pleasure and now seem to form an essential part of my Sunday evening. For that I thank you. So nice to enjoy a stroll in the old country with your engaging and informative commentary. Hope the leg is holding up OK?
John, if you had continued straight along the path from St. Martin's church alongside Longmead Primary school, you would have been walking the ancient route from St. Albans. This would have led you to the continuation of the path across the medieval fields that belonged to the Bendictine Monastery at Harmondsworth which owned the great barn. The barn is in fact Saxon in origin. This path would take you into the back of St. Mary's church. The tragedy is that the whole countryside around Harmondsworth and West Drayton was described by Wordsworth as "The most beautiful and intimate that I have seen". I was baptized in St. Mary's and grew up on the council estate you walked through.
I stayed in Hayes for several months after I came back from Australia, lived in Adelaide for 7 years, I got to know the area fairly well..a great shame on all those who propose to flatten our History for the sake of a runway..its about money as most things are, writing this in the same week we had a revolution against the European Super League, money seems to matter more than peoples emotions and in this case a peoples past and identity....hope your leg gets better John, I do the same after a pint too many.
Greetings I am commenting on behalf of my friend Stewart. We both live in Swansea and unfortunately Stewart has arthritis and is unable to do the walking that you do. Stewart has asked me to tell you that he thoroughly enjoys watching all your videos.
I hope your leg is ok now? I feel so sorry for you. That sounded painful. Thank you for soldiering on.. that was a great walk, it had me immersed, it’s like I was with you.. those villages were lovely and I will endeavour to see them soon, as well as the viewpoint on those mounds. Thank you John. Hope you are ok 👍
Looks like you took a nasty tumble John. Glad to see that you managed to finish the walk (sort of). An interesting part of London that I knew very little about.
When you mentioned St.Albans, I was reminded of a program about English ghosts that featured Nell Gwynn's house. I think it's also the place where there is a aircraft from WWII .
Many years ago I was in and out of the two detention centres along the bath road, was put on standby when Harmondsworth centre had a riot. Never realised it was so nice round there.
where are all the climate maniacs now destroying countryside for a runway that according to the green new deal most of us won,t be travelling abroad so who is it for
The naive bread and circuses mob think runways are for their holidays. It's globalism simply joining the dots more efficiently. GDP, economics and finance. Paid for by the proletariat.
@@johnfoster7996 According to a friend, after receiving the jab, the worse the side effects, the worse the version of Covid19 you had.I had 9 days of it in March 2020
Another very interesting walk, John. Thank you. Particularly enjoyed the autobiographical section towards the end, where you were being very reflective. A video of your plans for the year would be very interesting. Hope the leg and knee are ok.
Oh John so sorry to see you take a nasty fall and I hope you have recovered well. Thanks for this lovely film . It makes me angry to think anyone could sacrifice such a lovely place and part of our heritage and history for flight travel . The magnificent shot of the heron flying and then seeing the mighty aircraft just summed it up for me . 😊👍
What a sad story. All those beautiful buildings with so much history attached and they want to bury it all under a runway.. Planners will get away with anything if they have enough money and know the right people. 22 mins for a bus. In the villages around me they might have to wait 2 hours. Great walk John. Full of interest.
What unexpected turns the narrative of this walk took, falling on your arse being the main one. So good to see you out at last, away from home and in such green settings, with such a contrast to the glass and steel of the ending.
It's sad to read that the third runway is still on the table 2024. More publicity is needed to highlight the plight of this doomsday village. I'm glad to see you recovered John as that could have been much worse.
John - I love it when you find landmarks and paths so close to mega structures like T5. I'd love to hear the person on the phone trying to get someone to thatch a cottage about 2 miles from Heathrow! "yes, the thatched cottage near terminal 5"....
Hope your knee's better? Only just seen this, had a week walking & cycling round Minsmere (internet free😁) You need to get back there soon and document as much as possible, dropped you a message on Instagram as to why, such a shame as there is some real lasting history dotted through that area. Can fully relate to dodgy knees, came back aching & creaking myself.... but happy 👍😎
Is anyone actually in favour of this stupid 3rd runway? Just today the breakaway European Super League in football has collapsed just 2 days after it was announced. Entirely because of the public backlash. If we cared about the environment even half as much as we did about football, maybe we could stop this travesty at Harmondsworth.
I was watching something a year or so ago about the land just west and north-west of the existing airport and the fact that an iron-age fort (I think it was) will be ploughed under with no concern at all. Here, we have nothing of that great age but developers, despite by-laws and regulations have no problem getting planning permission to knock down buildings that have heritage designation... The city just says “Oh well, we have two similar ones” then “Oh well, we still have one similar one”... In one case, developers fought tooth and nail for several years to knock down two heritage buildings and finally they were ordered to move them... They fought that but lost. So they prepared to move them and the night before they moved them one “accidentally collapsed”. There was one landowner who purchased a lot of historic and heritage buildings, boarded them up and let them fall down or was ordered to knock them down because they were unsafe and unsalvageable. He didn’t care about the buildings. He was basically hoarding the land they sat on in hopes of making millions. He didn’t. Heritage and history gone and the city let him do it.
the result of the legal challenge allows Heathrow and its developers to apply for planning permission to build the third runway. The government isn't involved, and is sitting on the fence, as it did when the third runway was previously blocked. Boris Johnson, who once said he'd lie down in front of the bulldozers, could end it all tomorrow by legislating against it. But obviously he hopes it won't come to that and the legacy of another broken promise. Stop the third runway
Thanks John. I hope the leg is ok now. You are just the wrong side of 20 to be doing that sort of thing to yourself. It would be terrible for the airport to flatten that lovely area. Keep up the great work.
It's beyond appalling that this beauty and history should be sacrificed for an expanded airport -- which brings nothing but increased pollution, ugliness, destruction of wildlife habitat, and more dependency on petroleum. Who benefits? But perhaps that's a very "inconvenient" question.
Hi John, Just made a wee donation to you. John you are addictive. This particular video is something i'm interested in. I have friends who live in Lt. Downham, Ely, Cambs. & I last visited late 2019. Thank you for doing a video on the possible destruction of medieval villages. This is madness & I have not heard anything since I was last in England. Could you give me an update? You are so down-to-earth & a real decent chap, I say. I am long-time Anglophile & Beatlemaniac. I see that you still have a limp & hope your leg isn't too painful. Thank you for you are such a good example of why I love everything British. Peace & love from Kathleen
The Crown In Harmondsworth is my local , serves two real ales (changes weekly) and is part 17th Century and we still play Shove Ha'penny weekly with QV coins !! - A game Henry V111 played !! - There are even more walks around south of the A4 towards Staines Moor in the Colne Valley Corridor and the old railway link between West Drayton and Staines - part you can still walk as well - close to YEOVENEY HALT - a part of this wildlife area will also be demolished to make the M25 go under the new runway, new carparks, and a new railway line also planned from T5 and T6 so I hear
It's just amazing that right up to the old Waterloo Bridge Stones I have walked with my dogs nearly every day...I have lived in Yiewsley and West Drayton for just over 40 years and know every step of the way(s). I sit on the stones and let my (now) dog, have a sniff. He chases "pretend" rabbits! I know that some of the little inclines can be very slippery, hope the pain has gone now, I've done it myself, ouch. Looking forward to your next adventure. Thank you John.
Hi John, a comment in haste, as I am pretty busy at the mo.! The reasons for attacks on priests in Parish Churches during the late sixteenth and early seventeenth centuries are best summarized in the following two paragraphs from the 'Course Summary' page of this year's ICE course from the University of Cambridge: 'The Church at war with itself: religion in 16th- and 17th-century England'; which read as follows: 'In the second half of the 16th century, the monarchy continued to presume and defend a monolithic ‘church of the English people’ as part of the fabric of social cohesion. In reality, the roots of modern denominational divisions were beginning to be sown, often under severe political suppression. The first half of the 17th century saw a bloody - but almost inevitable - clash of political, cultural and religious interests. In England, the House of Stuart distanced itself from its Puritan roots and created an increasingly dangerous stand-off between court and Parliament. In Europe generally, such clashes led to the Thirty Years’ War, to savage persecutions and a deep psychic dis-ease. The slightly later English Civil War had similar impact, and led the country eventually to a reformulation of political theory, and radically new theological understandings of the Church.' www.ice.cam.ac.uk/course/church-war-itself-religion-16th-and-17th-century-england
We must protect our cultures and our heritage we are losing everything 💔😢
National identity is being completely erased. Very troubling to see.
@@tasmxiwslwisne the same here in Ireland chop down all the trees and tarmack everywhereit makes me sad
Globalists care not for national heritage.
Yes
It’s incredulous that Heathrow 3rd runway would flatten all this, it’s insanity at its most insane.
quite agree Dara
@@JohnRogersWalks originally, HS2 and Heathrow were either or proposals, not both. Such a disgrace.
In the 1990's I used to drive through Harmondsworth every day but never actually stopped in the village. The destruction this poorly planned runway will bring is true vandalism. It will also subject an estimated one million people to more noise and pollution. The alternative would be to annoy some multi-millionaires around Gatwick where only grass would need to be moved.
@@DaraM73 They should be neither nor proposals.
Why. The solution. Stay at home for your holidays. The only reason it is expanding is because it’s overcrowded by the public flying. You start at home, there’s no need for another runway
Better bild over empty land and dirti old howses make better moden 21st city for peeple
Mmmm....3rd Heathrow runway........like we really need it!!
exactly Rick
You can't have your cheap labour demands, coffee shops with cheap labour, restaurants with cheap labour, cheap housing with cheap labour.
Products & services with cheap labour.
Then cry victim when the system you've bought into (and profited from) demands the infrastructure to expand & continue
Explain how the third runway will increase the supply of cheap labour? Are you implying that's the purpose of building the third runway at Heathrow? The majority of imports into Britain enter via sea. Seems like you've made two unconnected points here. You'd also have to justify why a third runway would have to be at Heathrow and not one of the alternatives which would cause less destruction and pollution.
@@JohnRogersWalks Globalisation. Increasing aviation capacity and immigration go hand in hand. They are a countrys assured driver for greater GDP. Any reduction in expansion by one country will simply be absorbed & advantaged by another country.
For example, since the admission of Poland to the European Union some 465,000 Polish workers joined the UK labour market. Air transportation facilitates easier migration, makes short-term, long-distance migration viable, and allows migrants to maintain contact with their home country.
Do you really think the visible demographic changes in the UK with their empirical effect on the working class wage packet is not linked to the exponential growth in air travel?
@@JohnRogersWalks The merchants of globalisation couldn't care less about environmental destruction and pollution UNTIL they can exploit its tax payer to consume more 'green' product to buy the guilt. (Pushed heavily by their youth propaganda wing Greta & Co)
You sold your land and now they sell it back to you (leasehold) as 'regenerated' and 'eco' friendly.
Expanding runways, along with tower block after tower block and new citizens are the fruit of this economic system.
You can't have one without the others.
Progress.
You're just not meant to notice the breakdown of civic values, law and order, rising violent crime and anti social behaviors.
Part and parcel.
And you're not meant to notice you will 'own' less and less (They own the product. You hire it on demand)
Lifetime leases & metred economic.
models.
But you will be happy because the average human prefers the lack of responsibilities with instant gratifications.
We reaped what we sowed.
@@JohnRogersWalks I don't think the anticipated millions of Hong Kongese will be coming by the slow boat from China.
Nice that we've built so many new apartments for them to choose from.
Was a life long Labour Party supporter. Not anymore. They sold the working class out decades ago. Prioritised the vote from 'marginalised' minority groups to get power. Sowed hatred and division within them to maintain power. Sold the country out to big business. Companies & Multinationals which became more powerful than countries themselves.
We now harvest their vision.
The millennium dome, now the O2, the perfect metaphor of the country. Burger bars, chicken shops, coffee stalls and pop music surrounded by concrete sarcophagi and kids stabbing kids for a mobile phone.
21st Century Britain.
I used to live in West Drayton when I got married 40 years ago and know Harmondsworth well, so it was great to see this video. Anyone who wants to know more about the area, the changes wrought by the Airport, and more generally should seek out the books by Philip Sherwood who was my father-in-law and sadly died earlier this year and is buried in Harmondsworth churchyard, close to where John was walking. He was a long term campaigner against the airport since the government compulsorily occupied the Heathrow area near the end of the war, supposedly because Britain needed a new airforce base and hey presto at peace it was the ideal site for an airport, which ironically was for several years housed in tents and marquees! He was also a campaigner and leading light in the fight to save the Great Barn (not a tithe barn as it was a community resource for storing crops not where the big landowner stored their 10% cut of produce). Well worth seeing inside when lockdown allows. The same applies to Harmondsworth church which has a fine Norman doorway hidden in that almost always locked porch.
@John Buffalo I am 98 Hertfordshire
After a Sunday lunch and a chill,Sunday isn't complete without a walk with John Rogers.
hope you enjoyed it Mike
@@JohnRogersWalks I'm still watching John,keep getting interrupted !...Not by you i might add :-)
Found a link to this video on a local FB group! Its only 3:30 am and i watched the whole thing!
It is totally tragic what is happening to this area. The history around here and the old buildings. You were not terribly far from the third oldest inn in england, the ostrich inn, at colnbrook!
I grew up in longford, infact in the house on your video, next to the white horse pub! The first house in your video has an old quaker graveyard in it. The bridge with the heron in the river, it never used to look that way. We used to play as kids in the river there and in those days, you could walk under the road and straight onto the grassed area at the end of the runway. Many times our unruly dog followed me and ran about there 😳
There also used to be 3 more old huge barns that we used to play in, besides the one you walked past.
The whole village of longford is under the compulsory purchase zone and will be wiped from the landscape forever. It is so terribly sad.
Brilliant video. V glad you didn’t seriously hurt yourself when you fell.
Interesting that you decided to live in the uk with your (i assume) australian wife! Think i would have rather stayed in oz!
Will subscribe to your channel and watch more of your videos, but i think i will do it after i get more sleep!
Thank you from a grateful insomniac!
It takes a special kind of CHUTZPAH to whine about the expansion of Heathrow, and then regale us of a tale of going to Australian one April during a snowstorm!
How exactly? Surely it proves that Heathrow has been operating fine with two runways and a third is unnecessary. I'm all for demonstrating a "special kind of CHUTZPAH" in other circumstances but you're missing the point here Crawford
The main problem is too many foreigners that don’t care about our people or past and actually want to erase as much of our history as possible along with us
And a great many of them seem to be in Parliament.
@@annamack5823 exactly!
Look into the English democrats party
@@Kalus_Saxon No point. I live in an area where a bag of stinking manure with a blue rosette would get elected.
you're acting as if foreigners in general have an agreed and unspoken plan to erase english heritage (and people?) which is a bit daft and paranoid. if there was a conscious process of erasure (which i'm not sure of in the first place), foreigners would have to be blind and oblivious agents in that process. unless you believe they actually had a sit-down and decided it was time to topple the united kingdom.
this community doesn't strike me as the type to welcome far-right rhetoric in its comments, anyway. they just want to enjoy some fascinating videos. so kindly take it elsewhere
@@desapole “too many”...... not all...
But 1 is to many in my eyes...
don’t like our history or people...
Leave
Simple isn’t it.
Yet the government is allowing them to spew their hate everywhere
I'm so glad that you didn't injure yourself badly John. I hope the pain goes away soon.
I loved this video, especially near the end when you explained about your trip around the World and how you met your wife.
Thanks for brightening up my Sunday evening. After a long shift at work, it was just what I needed before bedtime.
Have a great week ahead! 🙂👍
These politicians need to take a walk like you around Harmondsworth and maybe just maybe they’ll reconsider? If they’ve got any respect for our beautiful towns and villages the plan of demolition would be halted immediately. Good work John and thanks.
That'd be great Chris - I heard how the politicians reacted when they went to Stratford to visit the Olympic site before the bid - most of them had never been that far East
But they don't.
The BA building, is BA's headquarters building Waterside, which will ironically be bulldozed to make way for the third runway - after less than 25 years, built at a cost of £200m or ~£10m/year!!
incredible Jim - and public money too presumably
@@JohnRogersWalks Thatcher privatised BA years ago.. Although it immediately went into profit on the basis that the properties now owned by BA hadn't been revalued for something like 30 years.. Including that huge terminal in Victoria, former HQ of BOAC, I think?
@@kestrel230 yes it was the HQ of BOAC i remember it in its heyday long before BOAC and BEA merged in 1974 to become British Airways.
Hold on to the past and there's nowhere to build the present and future.
Absolute tosh. You can preserve the best of the old whilst simultaneously bringing about the best of the new. Novelty isn't always adaptive, necessary or good.
Such a wonderful, varied walk. As usual, it is a pleasure to vicariously follow along. Here's hoping the Heathrow Airport expansion is blocked for the duration. It is more important than ever to stop over-development and to preserve places like this. Sorry about the fall too, gosh, what a shock--hope that leg is ok.
glad you enjoyed it Carole - one of those walks that I'll remember for a long time and not just because of the injured leg
@@JohnRogersWalks, oh yes, I'm sure, especially now that the pandemic seems to finally lifting--this sense comes through in this walk. Anyway, I always look forward to viewing your next walk, "wherever it might be"... and am sure that your passion for walking will always see you through. These walks you share have definitely helped me and I'm sure many others, get through challenging times. So, thanks again for all that you do. :-)
Being from the US I'm just amazed you weren't approached by airport police menacingly quizzed as to why you were walking around recording, hauled into their office, detained for hours, then just unceremoniously told to go home and don't come back. That you can in fact walk up to the airport blew my mind. Gosh I love England.
thanks for that dose of perspective Allan - I do know people who have been approached by Police for photographing near the airport in the past but there were surprisingly few people around at all
At last, something has popped up in the YT recommended list which actually interests me. Thanks for taking us with you on your walks - much appreciated!
Hope your leg recovers. Great walk, let's hope Heathrow doesn't wreck that history and landscape.
This has made my wkend. The Great John Rogers in my home town . West Drayton I’m so pleased the last you have done this walk as there really is a lot of history in this area . Thanks John
It is depressing that they want to push forward with this when we should be trying to roll it back. If there is one thing the pandemic should have taught us, it is that an awful lot of journeys are now unnecessary, particularly those related to business.
Hope the leg is ok!
That was my old home town, The borough of Hillingdon, although I lived in North Hillingdon, that would be a great walk from Hillingdon to Uxbridge an ancient saxon settlement, and home to the RAF . Hope your leg/foot is ok John and you are able to recover for next weeks walk. A Great video
thanks John - on the mend - should be out in a week or so
Thank you so much for the great walk. I do hope your leg is all ok. What a legend you are please excuse the pun
Surprised no mosque there..yet
Wolves, witchcraft, wounds and walking (of course). Brilliant John! ‘Carry on and keep walking,’ and please be careful! ♥️
Thanks Ashley- I’ll certainly watch my step in future
love a New River walk, also I'd like to see you complete the mighty river Lea.
Yes and don't spend too long near the Royal Venton Vitreous China Stadium, aka the toilet bowl, N17
Lea onto the Stort! And then finish off up in Cambridge via Cold Christmas.
What a fantastic walk John, so sad to think all these beautiful places being destroyed . I hope your foot gets better soon, was so pleased you made it back to the station.
The two or three times I've stayed at an airport hotel, I've always wondered about Longford when I passed through it on the bus. Absolute tragedy if they demolish it for a runway.
Snow in April! Is that normal in London? Keep up the great work, best wishes from Canada.
Not at all, normally it is beginning to warm up for the summer, this year however is particularly chilly ☃️
I lived in Hillingdon all my life. We often have snow flurries in early April, I even remember it in May one time. Just takes a snap in the Jetstream to throw some arctic weather our way. The end of April can still see frosty nights but some lovely warm sunny days. 22nd / 23rd always seems to mark the break in the cold weather. So many beautiful balmy St.Georges days spent on Uxbridge common. Quite normal, some years are colder than others but this is nothing out of the ordinary. An old English saying is " March; in like a lion, out like a lamb" some years no-one tells march to quit 😉
@@captainboing many years ago I was blessed by being in a relationship with an incredible Spanish lady who always found it odd that the British talked about the weather so much;
"It's because we have it." Says I, "We jave weather in Spain too," she replied. "Being an island and not a continental land mass off the cusp of an even bigger continental land mass, shielded from the rougher seas save you..." says I, "...from leaving the house in war. Sumny weather, that clouds over, rains but ends up a beautiful tranquil evening. Spain has: sunshine that is either really warm or hot, alternatively for a few short months it is really sunny still, but cold. There isn't anything to discuss."
Amazingly after she spent a summer here she actually understood, I can almost hear her now say:
"Guy what is the weather, has it forgotten how to make it's mind up?"
I hope nothing happens to that village, it sad. If they build the 3rd runaway that village will vanish from the face of the earth. 🙁
Gutted that place under threat amazing weather this weekend
Congrats on getting out great vid
I did the Lesnes abbey then woods then your root over the hilly woods even found Rockcliffe gardens felt sad how rundown they looked
It's great to see you west. Can you do Fulham sometime? I enjoyed your Shepherds Bush one.
Very interesting, but please no more music! So irritating.
The battle of Harmansworth has been going on for 30 years atleast so your documting is so important. Hope your legs recovering John.
It's not Harmondsworth that's potentially facing being wiped off the map, neighbouring Sipson would also go. Both would be flattened and would disappear forever if the Heathrow third runway gets built. Two towns obliterated. It's utterly tragic.
@@robtyman4281 Is the answer to stop flying for your holidays? I don't mean holidaying in Spain etc, but long haul holidays.
A village populated almost entirely by cars!
Yay he lives to walk another day , big shout out to those women who were executed for ????? Being outside the norm . I really hope they scrap this third runway ,xxx
I do indeed hobble on Morrigan - there is certainly a spirited campaign to stop the expansion of Heathrow
Hello John. Don't know how I missed this film from two years ago, especially as it is of special interest to me having grown up in and around the West Drayton area. The beautiful River Colne ran right at the end of our road, and the Rivers Frays and Pinn were very nearby too. An idyllic childhood, it was, mucking about in those waters. Good to be reminded of how beautiful this area of Middlesex still is, despite the proximity of the airport and expansion of the towns. Fingers crossed that the third runway obliteration doesn't come to pass.
That’s why England won Lonely Planet’s nr 1 visit location award 🥇
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Yeah but will be no more if we don't do anything.
I hope your leg is okay! Thank you for posting this-- it makes me so sad and angry to think that all that lovely landscape and those village homes and pubs will be destroyed. Will they actually destroy the Norman church and the precious tithe barn??? Gads, I hate this government.
Hello John. Lovely area, but planners take great pride in destroying beautiful places. All that history. All those lovely houses. Knocked down and buried. When they’ve succeeded in building runway 3, they’ll decide that’s still not enough and want number 4. History is there to be cherished, not buried under tons of concrete and tarmac.
Makes me angry and sad.
That was a nasty fall down that bank. That sort of thing is followed by 10 minutes of wondering what damage you might have done. Luckily, you got off fairly lightly.
Great video but also sad and deeply disturbing about the idiotic proposed demolition of these gorgeous villages and the emotional distress needlessly given to the locals involved. I honestly believe that when the 3rd runway is built and operational, the planning department at Heathrow will start discussing how to convince everyone about runway 4, say 10 years after runway 3? Where will it end? In many years to come 10 runways and 15 terminals or am i being optimistic? John Holland Kaye, the outgoing ceo of Heathrow, who pushed very vigorously for expansion plans of ANY kind for Heathrow, will be greatly enjoying his diamond encrusted golden hand shake when he leaves while these villagers will be evicted from their home whilst paid a pittance of their homes market value. Also I'll bet my last penny that his home is nowhere near the flight path of any airport. I'd have a good laugh if john holland-kaye's house was the subject of a compulsory purchase order because its in the way of HS2, which is yet another total carbuncle!!!!
Go back and make a new video in 20 years time, taking the Piccadilly Line to Terminal 6 (or The Barns Wallis Memorial Barn) and reminisce outside Sunglass Hut about the Lost Villages Of Hillingdon.
Its a disgrace to even consider building a 3rd runway there! Horrifying.
quite agree Julie
Capitalism gawn maaad!!! The more you build, the more traffic you encourage, the more you build...lo until the end of civilization!
Very unusual but always interesting. Hope your ok. Who would you call if you couldn’t get up?
Ghostbusters ? Xxx
I can't improve on this answer - although I'm going to start calling my wife Ghostbusters @morriganwitch
@@JohnRogersWalks my best wishes to her xxx
Here in New York Metro old buildings can be declared "Historic Sites " and not be touched.What is different in the UK?
I dont understand how a Thrid Runway would even be possible
Perhaps either yourself or subscriber could explain
Much Appreciated !
Great Vlogs !
I lived in Greenford for two years so this part of Middlesex is known to me. Harmondsworth looks beguiling and certainly does not require a runway. Travesty if it goes ahead. Enchanting content, Jnhn. Hope your leg is better.🇯🇪
Each time I watch one of your videos, I always wish my interest in history would have been there at school - but I didn't have you as my teacher, so perhaps that's why !! Another great video with great facts. (*_*)
Pulsing Joints - Pink Floyd 1994 Pulse Tour Coming Back to Life 472 squadron. Onwards and Upwards Sir Roger
That walk was so enjoyable. The history alone was so interesting, I was born in Hillingdon so this was extra special for me. I do hope you recovered from your fall with not much damage done. Thank you so much.
The latest from the government U.K. Supreme Court gives Grimshaw's Heathrow expansion the go-ahead in defeat for climate activists. ... Grimshaw's plans for Heathrow include the addition of a third runway and a glass-ceiling terminal building, both of which would allow the airport to increase its capacity to 140 million annual passengers by 2050.29 Dec 2020
That’s tragic news Harvir, I thought it still had to get planning consent
I used to be mad on planes when I was a kid. I would cycle from Slough through Colnbrook to London Airport, as we called it then, to watch Viscounts, DC3s, Comets, Stratocruisers and Constellations. there was a little field where plane spotters were allowed to sit.
I remember the thunderous noise and the black smoke of my first Boeing 707 - I lived in Iver by then.
What would that child have made of the decades to come ?
oof! that tumble was alarming! i do hope that your leg wasn't too badly injured and that you healed quickly! i'm particularly glad that you made it to the station in this episode without too much distress - phew!
Now having watched many of your videos ( after exhausting Joolz Guides ) I thought it was about time I left a comment! Your and Joolz’s styles of presentation are of course very different but equally entertaining. I really enjoyed this video. I used to be fairly neutral on the idea of a 3rd runway until I visited Longford. We’ve stayed at the Thistle Heathrow a few times pre flight and last time we were there decided to walk up the Bath road to the White Horse pub for dinner. It’s really small and quaint inside and the landlord was really friendly. I was really surprised to find such an olde world village just the other side of the airport perimeter and can now understand why the local people are so angry about the runway situation. It’s totally unnecessary and sad for these villages. Hope you’re feeling better after your accident. Looking forward to your next walk!
many thanks for that story - glad you've found the channel. My leg is on the mend thanks - must have to rest up for a few more days but I'll be back out there in no time
@@JohnRogersWalks good to hear that !
Its not under threat anymore. The World Economic Forum has decreed air travel shall be prohibited for all but essential travel. Nothing us peasants need to do shall be considered essential.
Really enjoyed the walk and as always very interesting. Hope the leg’s ok. I would love to see a video of your planned walking “campaign” for this year.
London a place to visit
Priced out the many are
Great video
More will def take butches
They are demolishing more stuff on fleet street
I hope the leg is OK! I'm a bit sensitive to freak accidents at the moment as my wife cut her hand in the kitchen last weekend and managed to sever a tendon. Fortunately they stitched her back together well!
So interesting to hear more about your trip around the world. I left my own home country of the US in 1995 and never went back. I didn't really plan it that way, but that's what happened.
And, as always, thanks for the walk. I'm glad you took this opportunity to document the area and raise awareness of what might happen to it. I'm hoping that it won't come to that.
Well, that was strange! Your channel just appeared and the first video showed you walking through the town where I grew up, West Drayton, and then onto Harmonsdsworth - where we would visit the pub on a Sunday afternoon. Thank you for all of the interesting historical info. Looking forward to watching your other videos.
Thanks MaZ - glad you found the video - hope you enjoy some of the others
It's a shame to think that villages like Harmondsworth and Sipson will be lost under a runway,
The Great Barn is definitely worth a visit, I do regular work at Manor Farm Barn in Ruislip, also worth a visit although it is closed most of the time, there is a monthly farmers market, check for dates
The thatched pub surrounded by half derelict houses in Longford has been a bit of limbo as it looks the same as when I stayed at a bnb there 10 years ago.
The thatched Pub and Barn would make an ideal buildings relocation, to a fitting location elsewhere, it would take some funding though, at these times you wish the God's were smiling and the Lottery came in! Yes, I know it's a pipe dream.
Hi, I used to live in West Drayton, few things to say John. It’s worth checking out the small Green at West Drayton near the church, some lovely old buildings there..& Southlands Arts Centre is worth a walk around near the Green.... If you come back to head to Harmondsworth you can walk through the Closes park and the housing estate over another M4 bridge which takes you directly into the Moor. It cuts out that busy road you walked down. The wildlife over the Moor was amazing and I often heard a cuckoo in the summer.... I was part of the group who saved the barn(as it was owned by an off shore company), luckily we got English Heritage involved who fought to buy it & they carried out sympathetic renovations.... it is truly amazing so do try & get back there to see inside..lovely you went to this area...
Yes, a walk with a difference - you did part of it lying down. Hope the leg is OK! Amazing to think you seem to be in the middle of nowhere but only 40 minutes from the Tube! And I reckon the Enchanted Ox would be a great pub name.
Very sad to hear about the 3rd runway all for the love of money ..lot of history in Hamondsworth
John, your videos are always such a pleasure and now seem to form an essential part of my Sunday evening. For that I thank you. So nice to enjoy a stroll in the old country with your engaging and informative commentary. Hope the leg is holding up OK?
What an incredible journey! Loved watching the changing sky. I hope you are on the mend.
True warrior John, hope your ankle is okay mate.
John, if you had continued straight along the path from St. Martin's church alongside Longmead Primary school, you would have been walking the ancient route from St. Albans. This would have led you to the continuation of the path across the medieval fields that belonged to the Bendictine Monastery at Harmondsworth which owned the great barn. The barn is in fact Saxon in origin. This path would take you into the back of St. Mary's church.
The tragedy is that the whole countryside around Harmondsworth and West Drayton was described by Wordsworth as "The most beautiful and intimate that I have seen".
I was baptized in St. Mary's and grew up on the council estate you walked through.
thanks so much for that note John
It’s horrifyingly tragic about the heathrow extension. Same with hs2. The awful destruction of these villages.
Really interesting video, hope your ankle and knee is okay!!
thanks Lydia - ankle and knee are on the mend
I stayed in Hayes for several months after I came back from Australia, lived in Adelaide for 7 years, I got to know the area fairly well..a great shame on all those who propose to flatten our History for the sake of a runway..its about money as most things are, writing this in the same week we had a revolution against the European Super League, money seems to matter more than peoples emotions and in this case a peoples past and identity....hope your leg gets better John, I do the same after a pint too many.
Greetings I am commenting on behalf of my friend Stewart. We both live in Swansea and unfortunately Stewart has arthritis and is unable to do the walking that you do. Stewart has asked me to tell you that he thoroughly enjoys watching all your videos.
thanks so much for that Stewart
Great video John!
I lived here until I was 23. Miss the place immensely, sad its going to go one day. Thanks for the documentary.
Heathrow was originally a small hamlet that was lost, progress goes on and no one can stop it.
But is this "progress"?
I hope your leg is ok now? I feel so sorry for you. That sounded painful. Thank you for soldiering on.. that was a great walk, it had me immersed, it’s like I was with you.. those villages were lovely and I will endeavour to see them soon, as well as the viewpoint on those mounds. Thank you John. Hope you are ok 👍
Typical British weather sunny then snow then its gone just as quick as it started. I hope your leg is ok mate 👍
Looks like you took a nasty tumble John. Glad to see that you managed to finish the walk (sort of). An interesting part of London that I knew very little about.
When you mentioned St.Albans, I was reminded of a program about English ghosts that featured Nell Gwynn's house. I think it's also the place where there is a aircraft from WWII .
JOHN I LOVE PLANES JUST TO LET U KNOW AND YOU TOO.
Many years ago I was in and out of the two detention centres along the bath road, was put on standby when Harmondsworth centre had a riot. Never realised it was so nice round there.
where are all the climate maniacs now destroying countryside for a runway that according to the green new deal most of us won,t be travelling abroad so who is it for
The naive bread and circuses mob think runways are for their holidays.
It's globalism simply joining the dots more efficiently.
GDP, economics and finance.
Paid for by the proletariat.
Looking forward to watching this. Been in bed since Friday lunchtime, reacting to my first dose of the Astrazeneca jab.
No comment 😷
Sorry to hear that - hope you’re back on your feet soon
Did no one warn you?
@@johnfoster7996 According to a friend, after receiving the jab, the worse the side effects, the worse the version of Covid19 you had.I had 9 days of it in March 2020
@@quickclipsbyjmj brainwashed.
Another very interesting walk, John. Thank you. Particularly enjoyed the autobiographical section towards the end, where you were being very reflective. A video of your plans for the year would be very interesting. Hope the leg and knee are ok.
Oh John so sorry to see you take a nasty fall and I hope you have recovered well. Thanks for this lovely film . It makes me angry to think anyone could sacrifice such a lovely place and part of our heritage and history for flight travel . The magnificent shot of the heron flying and then seeing the mighty aircraft just summed it up for me . 😊👍
Didn't expect to end up where we did.😁 An interesting journey John; second time in West Drayton already this week.
What a sad story. All those beautiful buildings with so much history attached and they want to bury it all under a runway.. Planners will get away with anything if they have enough money and know the right people. 22 mins for a bus. In the villages around me they might have to wait 2 hours.
Great walk John. Full of interest.
What unexpected turns the narrative of this walk took, falling on your arse being the main one.
So good to see you out at last, away from home and in such green settings, with such a contrast to the glass and steel of the ending.
It's sad to read that the third runway is still on the table 2024.
More publicity is needed to highlight the plight of this doomsday village.
I'm glad to see you recovered John as that could have been much worse.
John - I love it when you find landmarks and paths so close to mega structures like T5. I'd love to hear the person on the phone trying to get someone to thatch a cottage about 2 miles from Heathrow! "yes, the thatched cottage near terminal 5"....
Hope your knee's better? Only just seen this, had a week walking & cycling round Minsmere (internet free😁) You need to get back there soon and document as much as possible, dropped you a message on Instagram as to why, such a shame as there is some real lasting history dotted through that area.
Can fully relate to dodgy knees, came back aching & creaking myself.... but happy 👍😎
Is anyone actually in favour of this stupid 3rd runway? Just today the breakaway European Super League in football has collapsed just 2 days after it was announced. Entirely because of the public backlash. If we cared about the environment even half as much as we did about football, maybe we could stop this travesty at Harmondsworth.
I was watching something a year or so ago about the land just west and north-west of the existing airport and the fact that an iron-age fort (I think it was) will be ploughed under with no concern at all.
Here, we have nothing of that great age but developers, despite by-laws and regulations have no problem getting planning permission to knock down buildings that have heritage designation... The city just says “Oh well, we have two similar ones” then “Oh well, we still have one similar one”... In one case, developers fought tooth and nail for several years to knock down two heritage buildings and finally they were ordered to move them... They fought that but lost. So they prepared to move them and the night before they moved them one “accidentally collapsed”.
There was one landowner who purchased a lot of historic and heritage buildings, boarded them up and let them fall down or was ordered to knock them down because they were unsafe and unsalvageable. He didn’t care about the buildings. He was basically hoarding the land they sat on in hopes of making millions. He didn’t. Heritage and history gone and the city let him do it.
Great video...for a deep dive into why Churches were built, check out Obsidian Alice (TH-cam)...New research...
the result of the legal challenge allows Heathrow and its developers to apply for planning permission to build the third runway. The government isn't involved, and is sitting on the fence, as it did when the third runway was previously blocked. Boris Johnson, who once said he'd lie down in front of the bulldozers, could end it all tomorrow by legislating against it. But obviously he hopes it won't come to that and the legacy of another broken promise. Stop the third runway
Thanks John. I hope the leg is ok now. You are just the wrong side of 20 to be doing that sort of thing to yourself. It would be terrible for the airport to flatten that lovely area. Keep up the great work.
Thanks Rob - yes I’ve noticed my recovery time is a bit longer but the swelling has mostly gone now
@@JohnRogersWalks Glad to hear you are on the mend. Take it easy!
It's beyond appalling that this beauty and history should be sacrificed for an expanded airport -- which brings nothing but increased pollution, ugliness, destruction of wildlife habitat, and more dependency on petroleum. Who benefits? But perhaps that's a very "inconvenient" question.
A video of your plans for walks in 21 will be great John
Hi John, Just made a wee donation to you. John you are addictive. This particular video is something i'm interested in. I have friends who live in Lt. Downham, Ely, Cambs. & I last visited late 2019. Thank you for doing a video on the possible destruction of medieval villages. This is madness & I have not heard anything since I was last in England. Could you give me an update? You are so down-to-earth & a real decent chap, I say. I am long-time Anglophile & Beatlemaniac. I see that you still have a limp & hope your leg isn't too painful. Thank you for you are such a good example of why I love everything British. Peace & love from Kathleen
The Crown In Harmondsworth is my local , serves two real ales (changes weekly) and is part 17th Century and we still play Shove Ha'penny weekly with QV coins !! - A game Henry V111 played !! - There are even more walks around south of the A4 towards Staines Moor in the Colne Valley Corridor and the old railway link between West Drayton and Staines - part you can still walk as well - close to YEOVENEY HALT - a part of this wildlife area will also be demolished to make the M25 go under the new runway, new carparks, and a new railway line also planned from T5 and T6 so I hear
It's just amazing that right up to the old Waterloo Bridge Stones I have walked with my dogs nearly every day...I have lived in Yiewsley and West Drayton for just over 40 years and know every step of the way(s). I sit on the stones and let my (now) dog, have a sniff. He chases "pretend" rabbits! I know that some of the little inclines can be very slippery, hope the pain has gone now, I've done it myself, ouch. Looking forward to your next adventure. Thank you John.
Hi John, a comment in haste, as I am pretty busy at the mo.! The reasons for attacks on priests in Parish Churches during the late sixteenth and early seventeenth centuries are best summarized in the following two paragraphs from the 'Course Summary' page of this year's ICE course from the University of Cambridge: 'The Church at war with itself: religion in 16th- and 17th-century England'; which read as follows:
'In the second half of the 16th century, the monarchy continued to presume and defend a monolithic ‘church of the English people’ as part of the fabric of social cohesion. In reality, the roots of modern denominational divisions were beginning to be sown, often under severe political suppression.
The first half of the 17th century saw a bloody - but almost inevitable - clash of political, cultural and religious interests. In England, the House of Stuart distanced itself from its Puritan roots and created an increasingly dangerous stand-off between court and Parliament. In Europe generally, such clashes led to the Thirty Years’ War, to savage persecutions and a deep psychic dis-ease. The slightly later English Civil War had similar impact, and led the country eventually to a reformulation of political theory, and radically new theological understandings of the Church.'
www.ice.cam.ac.uk/course/church-war-itself-religion-16th-and-17th-century-england