And an honest manager, because his managers of that time took almost all his money and left him with little. And he was too naive to discover it until it was too late.
A good day, wonderful film.! Thank you for sharing this! Great inspiration for us all. Those people were tough weren’t they? Different world back then. They all worked very hard! Keep up the great job. Stay well have a beautiful day. Jim
Ali had better ring movement than Louis but I don't think he ever had that wicked overhand right. It's hard to be sure from these old films but Louis seems to have had real dynamite in his fists.
Anyone who thinks Louis couldn't handle himself in the modern era need only look at this fight. Carnera looks amazingly Klitschoesque here. If anything he looks to have lighter feet and is more aggressive in the clinches. You can see Joe taking some time figuring him out, but once he times him, damn! One right hand and he collapses a 265 pound man like a sack of flour. Very impressive how Joe maintains control and systematically destroys a hurt opponent picking his shots, rather than flailing away as most boxers do instinctively. No wonder he's considered the best finisher in HW history....
Why do you presume he would have knocked Marciano out? He might have won, but on all the evidence there is regarding Rocky' endurance and chin it's just stupid to pronounce that with such certainty.
Because Marciano only had a chin and endurance against LIGHT heavyweights, such as an old Archie Moore and Ezzard Charles. In fact, Moore and Joe Walcott dropped him. Prime Joe Louis would knock Marciano out or stop him because Joe would smash his face into smithereens.
He was outweighed in almost every fight, and was knocked down twice in 49 fight career. You can't question his chin. In the last year Louis fought he still possessed KO power, albeit diminished, yet he didn't knock Rocky down and obviously didn't knock him out. He's had his face smashed in plenty of times too and that didn't prevent him from winning. I wouldn't proclaim that Marciano would win against prime Louis but I certainly wouldn't possess the confidence to pronounce that the guy with one of the greatest chins in boxing would get knocked out.
Joe Louis was the most technically sound fighter of all time. He destroyed a bigger,stronger and a very skilled well balanced fighter. No wonder he reigned for 12 years. Fantastic footage. Thank you
@@john-sp8jk My video foreman Louis shows exactly how Joe and his era fought. In that video, does that version of Joe look like he or anybody else would land anything on people foreman fought? , he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs. guys in the 70s-90s
carnera was much better than history records ...he would be championship-caliber even today ...he moves very well for 265 lbs and is in great condition
Joe Lewis telegraphed almost all of his jabs when he dipped his head (mostly to his left) before each one. I've never heard a comment from anyone say anything about this...I would think his predictability would have opened him up to a serious disadvantage.
On my page Foreman louis advanced,Does Joe in that video look like he, or anybody from this time, would land anything on guys in my video? and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names. Foreman fought.
Max Schmeling had noted this in his preparation for his Louis fight in 1936. That’s how he defeated Joe, by shooting a right hand over Joe’s jab. Louis listened to his trainer Jack Blackburn a lot more after the defeat by Schmeling.
@@BruceAChristieOn my page Foreman louis advanced,Does Joe in that video look like he, or anybody from this time, would land anything on guys in my video? and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names. Foreman fought.
thnx much for posting this - feel sorry for carnera: he was no boxer, he was just a big guy with slow reflexes and got beat up badly whenever he faced a real boxer.
I saw old movie with Humphrey Bogart I think the title was not sure was it harder they fall one character a big boxer not to smart later I see old tape of this guy I thought it was the big guy in the movie story wasn't about this guy right
My video foreman Louis shows exactly how Joe and his era fought. In that video, does that version of Joe look like he or anybody else would land anything on people foreman fought? , he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs. guys in the 70s-90s
yes its unfair to comapre because todays understanding of diet training is far superior. also evolution and also today sport is accessible to many more and so finding genetically gifted individuals for a sport is easier. but these quys were awesome for their era
Joe Louis sliced and diced Carnera. This was a young and upcoming Louis at the time. He knocked Carnera's bottom teeth through his upper lip in this fight, he hit him so hard, so often. Ali is known as 'The Greatest', but it may have been another story if he had to fight a 'in his prime' Joe Louis! My dad saw Louis many times and used to laugh when he saw guys like Ali, Norton, Foreman, Frazier, etc. He said Joe Louis would have beaten any of these guys!
No. He wouldn't have. Joe never fought ANYONE like Liston, Frazier, Norton, Shavers- or Foreman. Billy Conn, a light-heavyweight, almost beat him. Max Schmeling knocked him out. Braddock, Galento, Buddy Baer, and Joe Walcott put Louis on the deck. Joe was great- but the fighters Ali faced and beat were far superior to the guys Joe fought. A prime Ali beats a prime Joe.
@@john-sp8jkMy video foreman Louis shows exactly how Joe and his era fought. In that video, does that version of Joe look like he or anybody else would land anything on people foreman fought? , he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs. guys in the 70s-90s So where did you get joe would beat them from? No one he fought in my video was even close to as advanced as even no names in my video,exsposed yourself
My video foreman Louis shows exactly how Joe and his era fought. In that video, does that version of Joe look like he or anybody else would land anything on people foreman fought? , he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs. guys in the 70s-90s
He supposedly had a lot of fixed fights early on, but fought a lot of top fighters, Jack Sharkey, Tommy Loughran, Max Baer and Joe amongst others, became a wrestler after boxing, then wen't back to Italy opened an off-license and drunk half the stock if rumour was to believed, passed away 50 years ago
Louis was a very extremely better trained athlete at that time primo primo was just a badass primo was just a big brute and took a temple shot from that big right hand is how it all started finishing up with that left hook to the jaw anybody would go down
Did you know jess Willard was not floored until jack demspey Willard was 37 the the age when most fighters collapse same with jack johnson anybody think about jack Johnson, Jim Jeffries, bob Fitzsimmons Jim Corbett, tommy burns,john l Sullivan they were all tough Johnson v Willard fight was the longest in boxing history
As bad as Carnera was ..he KO'd Jack Sharkey ..today the Heavyweight division is pretty bad ..that's why i think Carnera with a proper trainer would be champion today !
pearcemark2 don't hate on Marciano he never lost you got a Ali labeled as the greatest of all time he lost six times Marciano whoop Joe Louis's ass twice you got Joe Lewis in the top five I know you going to say Joe Lewis was out of his prime Max Baer was out of his prime when he fought Joe Lewis so was Primo carnera both of them was already beaten by James Jay Braddock in the late twenties Marciano defeated Champions like Joe Lewis jersey Joe Walcott Archie Moore retired 50 and o who you got in the top five Jack Johnson lost six times Marciano is the greatest prize fighter of all times it was not a boxer he was a slugger who defeated boxers who knocked out men who have never been knocked out who defeated men who have never been defeated who overcame disadvantages like height weight reach experience if Marciano ain't in the top five who is and what do you base your judgement off of color
@@larryhoward4713 Ali, Foreman, Lennox Lewis, Mike Tyson and Wladimar Klitschko are my top 5 Marciano truly is great but I'd have him more inclined to be in top 15 heavyweights If you look at the facts, he wasn't fighting top notch heavyweights until he fought 37 year old Joe Louis and that was near his 40th fight After he won the title his contenders were Jersey Joe Walcott who was not a career heavyweight and I mean that as in he fought at light heavyweight as well and he was near 40 years old Archie Moore who was 41 at the tims was also a light heavyweight and he dropped Marciano Ezzard Charles was 32 and a career light heavyweight but he was a fighter that would give any heavyweight problems, he was winning his fight with Marciano until Rocky finished him Marciano retired at 32 and I would have preferred had he fought the rising Patterson which would have really showed how great he was and I do think he could have defeated him despite Patterson being 10 years younger Ali fought numerous hall of famers, most of which while he was past his prime, in his initial prime he was 29-0 with 9 defences of his title. Foreman destroyed the black Marciano which was Frazier and he destroyed the great Ken Norton in a combined 4 rounds on top of winning the title at 45 years old against a man that defeated Holyfeild who was one of the greatest fighters of all time as well. Lennox Lewis defeated every heavyweight he ever faced in an era that I consider the greatest in boxing history in terms of the heavyweight division and he was a 3 time legit heavyweight champion who fought super heavyweights. Mike Tyson is the youngest heavyweight champion of all time and unified the division by the age of 23, Mike Tyson had an impressive resume defeating Holmes, Spinks, Tucker, Berbick, Smith and Bruno and he made 9 defences of his title. Wladimar Klitschko was champion for 12 years and made 20 defences of his title, what truly cemented him as one of the best heavyweights ever in my eyes was when he fought a 28 year old undefeated Joshua and gave him a very tough fight and even knocked him despite being 41 years old himself.
This is back in the day when refs just about would not stop a fight if the fighters could stand up. In this case Primo had to tell the ref he was done.
Joe Louis was awesome especially inside, he truly was one of the greatest HWs for me id have him in 3rd or 4th Marciano and Tyson Infront, here is why people say Louis was 37 when rock fought him well Liston was 29/20 yrs older than Ali and he fought Moore 7 yrs after rocky KOd him, rocky didn't start until his mid 20s they forget Charles, vingo, la starza, Rex Layne red Applegate Tiger Lowery, Louis also was winning and winning good up until he fought rock plus every fighter that fought rocky was never the same, people talk weight he could of fought LH but didn't dam moore came in heavier, you could not train to fight him because no one fought like him he'd hit you all over and never tire, Frazier was as fit but he only had a left hook Marciano could hurt you with both hands, seriously hurt you only 3 men survived out of 49 and chins are only so good
Notice how no matter how many times Carnera hits the canvas he gets up swinging. The man had guts. Louis later said in an interview that Primo had an excellent accurate jab with an 85" reach he could do it moving away from you. He said he also hit like a bulldozer. Louis defeated Primo with skill and speed & he wasn't about to let this fight go much longer. Louis knew one shot from Primo could end it. Primo, by the way, has the biggest KO record in the heavyweight division to this day (89 wins) with 72 by KO. And when people say he was controlled by the mob then how did he lose to Max Baer & Joe Louis? Max was a Jew and Louis was black -- you don't think they may have interfered with that demographic in the 30s? They didn't. The boxing game was controlled by the mob -- but in the gambling, with the oddsmakers & the concessions. Primo knocked out contenders who were all championship caliber. 103 fights & 14 losses. Never carried out. He met all comers & there were many who wouldn't get in the ring with him. Check his physique and compare it to Tyson Fury. No comparison. Primo was a marble statue & he did not have a glass jaw. He got up after every Joe Louis bomb & got up after every Max Baer bomb. He just wasn't as skilled as Louis, Ali, or as clever & aggressive as Marciano. But Primo did have stamina, determination & endurance. He never gave up. And that says it all in that game. Primo was an underrated champion for sure. He fought far more durable & strong fighters than Sonny Liston did. And during Liston's championship time, he only fought 2 men: Patterson & Ali. No one else. He won both against Floyd & lost both against Ali. Sonny was a strong intimidating heavyweight but no legendary champion. Not like Ali, Foreman & Frazier. They had to fight people like Ron Lyle & Earnie Shavers & each other. And even fighters like Jerry Quarry & Joe Bugner -- think they're not tough? Look at their long records & who they defeated in the ring. Not the types of fighters Sonny engaged with.
@@ascendediam- And if Primo were fighting in the 70s and 90s what? He wouldn't be trained as well as those other fighters? Do you see how silly your statement is? By the way, many fighters of Primo's era were rock-hard men & not pansies. Let me bring something to your attention -- many modern fighters today can't even go 15 rounds that's why they scaled it back to 12. I notice that the big tough guy Tyson Fury is winded by the 3rd round many times & throws lots of telegraphing punches. You don't see someone like Primo Carnera, Joe Louis, Ali, or Rocky Marciano breathing through their mouths by the 3rd round. You say tech & timing but I'll put stamina, endurance, and determination ahead of all of that. Even the Rocky movie with the big technically conditioned Russian didn't win against Rocky's guts. That's not how fighters are built. And many fighters of that earlier era had lots of heart, guts & stamina. How does an 186 lb guy like Jack Dempsey chop down a giant like Jess Willard? Something fighters today don't display is that grit. Look at Fury, look at that clown Bob Sapp. I'd give the edge to a street fighter like Kimbo Slice before I bet on those two. Kimbo beat some of the best & he was just a tough street fighter. And before you say Mike Tyson this or Mike Tyson that...Tyson was trained by the same man who trained a young Rocky Marciano -- Cus D'Amato. Tech & timing against a clever fast man like Ali -- he'd pick them apart because they wouldn't land any punches on him of consequence. Frustration is their enemy. Just make them miss. And they will...Sonny Liston missed a lot against Cassius Clay (Ali) & he was supposed to be invincible. (This is just a debate -- I'm not arguing with you).
@@ascendediam - You can't even write a complete sentence. What the hell are you talking about? It's beyond BS. Everything is a run-on sentence with few capitals beginning a sentence, bad grammar, and capital letters after commas. Do you proof anything you write? I won't even entertain your post until you get a diploma from a reputable school. You certainly didn't get many high marks in creative writing. What a joke. And I was trying to talk to you civilly. Obviously, this is not going to work. Maybe you were a former boxer who got hit too many times in the cranium? (Cranium -- look it up in the dictionary).
@@lastrada52 Video side by side of louis era compared to 70s-90s foreman fought, shows the 70s-90s were way more advanced in angles used/defense/timing/tech and fought smarter side by side only 10 mins,that's the exact way these era's fought not these flawed best moments highlights hahaha exposed person who isn't sane
Primo was great, considering his height and weight.These guys where boxers, they represented the sport as true gentlemen. Today they are snowmen, just like football players.
Primo's footwork is good, considering his size. His stance, however, is too straight ang rigid. He shows some decent, basic skills, though, at least before gassing out. Louis, on his part, is as agile & quick as a feline, stalking his prey, wasting no energy till he finds the chance to launch his attack. Wonderful display of the boxing science on Joe's part
GREATEST There is no way ali could of taken that power and kept going! In my opinion Joe Louis is the second greates heavy weight of all time after marciano! Ali was very, very overated as a boxer, he should of fought lousie in his prime!!!
My video foreman Louis shows exactly how Joe and his era fought. In that video, does that version of Joe look like he or anybody else would land anything on people foreman fought? , he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs. guys in the 70s-90s
Big, strong guy who was not a boxer ... got started as a pro in 1928 fighting hobos in Italy. His inexperience, lack of sense and lack of timing shows up in the bouts I've seen. The Klitschko's weren't as strong, for sure. The fight wouldn't have lasted very long.
Carnera kept his left glove down, and Louis kept hitting the wide open target with his right hand. You could see Carnera, after the first round, was almost looking to get hit every time Louis closed in.
@@ascendediam If Louis had the training of a way more advanced pro boxer like they existed in the '70s, Joe would have destroyed Primo, you DO know that, don't you? Large size doesn't prove anything, now OR then. Just ask Mike Tyson about that.
@@felixmadison5736 I said training, not size; you’re slow. I’m 100, right,You don’t want to admit it yet, but you know I am, and Mike fought way more advanced fighters, so quoting him makes no sense at all. Mikes style was a combo of Dempsey/jersey ontop of stuff they didn't even do, he learned from the past and fixed errors
@@ascendediam That's right! You said 'training' not size, so if Louis is training the same as Carnera, then Louis would have really beaten the crap out of him. Man, you ARE slow!! LOL!!
The stupid people that think today's fighter's were better are stupid, these old black and white flicks don't do the fighter's justice, these is the fastest they can play them otherwise it would be a blurred mess, fighter's of old were far superior then today's and a lot tougher to
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Look at the speed and power Joe Louis had as a young man.
If Carnera had been in his prime today, with all modern training methods available, better diet and so on, he would be a real beast.
we already seen it name was kilits
Not at all, he was awkward, almost always off balance when he threw his punches and swung wildly, and he had a poor left jab.
And he was too damn slow, he couldn't keep up with Joe Louis.
And if Joe Louis were in his prime today with all the modern training methods available, better diet and so on, just think what a beast he would be!!!
And an honest manager, because his managers of that time took almost all his money and left him with little. And he was too naive to discover it until it was too late.
louis mastery is timeless... very efficient use of space exhibiting great in-fighting skills
Joe Louis is amazing to watch.. Poetry in motion.
When you repeatedly get hit with a lead right cross or overhand right in the first round alone, you know it's going to be a long night!
This was a great fight, I must watch more Joe Lewis
WOW! What an amazing piece of history! Great fight.
A good day, wonderful film.! Thank you for sharing this! Great inspiration for us all. Those people were tough weren’t they? Different world back then. They all worked very hard! Keep up the great job. Stay well have a beautiful day. Jim
Ali had better ring movement than Louis but I don't think he ever had that wicked overhand right. It's hard to be sure from these old films but Louis seems to have had real dynamite in his fists.
KO power in either hand.
He sure did! That's why they call him the brown bomber! 🥊🥊
Джо Луис... Величайший из великих!
Anyone who thinks Louis couldn't handle himself in the modern era need only look at this fight. Carnera looks amazingly Klitschoesque here. If anything he looks to have lighter feet and is more aggressive in the clinches. You can see Joe taking some time figuring him out, but once he times him, damn! One right hand and he collapses a 265 pound man like a sack of flour. Very impressive how Joe maintains control and systematically destroys a hurt opponent picking his shots, rather than flailing away as most boxers do instinctively. No wonder he's considered the best finisher in HW history....
Wlad had Steelhammer but Louis looks great, I'm not one to take away from any fighter but Rocky would have trouble with this Joe Louis.
Excuses for Primo. And this Joe Louis would have knocked out Rocky Marciano
Why do you presume he would have knocked Marciano out? He might have won, but on all the evidence there is regarding Rocky' endurance and chin it's just stupid to pronounce that with such certainty.
Because Marciano only had a chin and endurance against LIGHT heavyweights, such as an old Archie Moore and Ezzard Charles. In fact, Moore and Joe Walcott dropped him. Prime Joe Louis would knock Marciano out or stop him because Joe would smash his face into smithereens.
He was outweighed in almost every fight, and was knocked down twice in 49 fight career. You can't question his chin. In the last year Louis fought he still possessed KO power, albeit diminished, yet he didn't knock Rocky down and obviously didn't knock him out. He's had his face smashed in plenty of times too and that didn't prevent him from winning. I wouldn't proclaim that Marciano would win against prime Louis but I certainly wouldn't possess the confidence to pronounce that the guy with one of the greatest chins in boxing would get knocked out.
Dizem que o Joe Louis teve um começo arrasador, assim como o do Tyson. Foram vários nockouts consecutivos... acho que mais de quinze. Grande boxer!!
Joe Louis was the most technically sound fighter of all time. He destroyed a bigger,stronger and a very skilled well balanced fighter. No wonder he reigned for 12 years. Fantastic footage. Thank you
Joe Louis the brown bomber was the greatest heavyweight champion ever of all time! 🥊🥊
@@john-sp8jk My video foreman Louis shows exactly how Joe and his era fought. In that video, does that version of Joe look like he or anybody else would land anything on people foreman fought? , he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs. guys in the 70s-90s
My dad told me that back in Louis' day he had a soft drink named after him called, "Joe Louis Punch"
Is this a joke!?? 👈🏻🤔
No it's true he actually did!🥊😵🥊
@@coronatyrus2391 No joke. There's info about it on the internet.
carnera was much better than history records ...he would be championship-caliber even today ...he moves very well for 265 lbs and is in great condition
Training and diet is better these Days but they were way tougher back then.
Primo has had a lot of bad press, but must of been half decent to go 6 rounds with Joe
Both of them are real champions
Joe Lewis telegraphed almost all of his jabs when he dipped his head (mostly to his left) before each one. I've never heard a comment from anyone say anything about this...I would think his predictability would have opened him up to a serious disadvantage.
On my page Foreman louis advanced,Does Joe in that video look like he, or anybody from this time, would land anything on guys in my video? and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names. Foreman fought.
Max Schmeling had noted this in his preparation for his Louis fight in 1936. That’s how he defeated Joe, by shooting a right hand over Joe’s jab. Louis listened to his trainer Jack Blackburn a lot more after the defeat by Schmeling.
@@BruceAChristieOn my page Foreman louis advanced,Does Joe in that video look like he, or anybody from this time, would land anything on guys in my video? and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names. Foreman fought.
Apparently it didn't hurt him, but he did hurt his opponents!
Joe Lewis gave the Big Italian a boxing lesson on this day. Joe Lewis is the "Father of modern Day boxing techniques"...
Disagree there. From Dempsey on, boxing changed.
His name is spelled Louis, the one spelled Lewis, was a Kickboxing world champion a couple of decades later.
Grande Primo..!
Ma sosteniamo la boxe italiana!
Compilation Boxe Italiana
thnx much for posting this - feel sorry for carnera: he was no boxer, he was just a big guy with slow reflexes and got beat up badly whenever he faced a real boxer.
I saw old movie with Humphrey Bogart I think the title was not sure was it harder they fall one character a big boxer not to smart later I see old tape of this guy I thought it was the big guy in the movie story wasn't about this guy right
Primo wasn't only a big guy
@Just think baer fet demolished by Luis in even shorter time
Se him today in 4k then your se him a monster who would win anybtoday
I'd prefer Louis's movement than Ali's no waste of movement with small side steps and pivots
My video foreman Louis shows exactly how Joe and his era fought. In that video, does that version of Joe look like he or anybody else would land anything on people foreman fought? , he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs. guys in the 70s-90s
Joe Lewis is easily top 5 heavyweight in history and possibly the best.
need to watch other eras
the speed of today's fighter is un-matched plus diet and a totally different training today. no comparison.
another pussy who can't post his own face!!
i think the same, . no comparison with boxer of today, too differences
yes its unfair to comapre because todays understanding of diet training is far superior. also evolution and also today sport is accessible to many more and so finding genetically gifted individuals for a sport is easier. but these quys were awesome for their era
Kj Hammerman wrong these are black and white flicks the fighter's fought back then were far tougher,
@@rockyfish3115lunatic
No standing 8 count back then huh? That's brutal.
yes,yes..
Joe Louis sliced and diced Carnera. This was a young and upcoming Louis at the time. He knocked Carnera's bottom teeth through his upper lip in this fight, he hit him so hard, so often. Ali is known as 'The Greatest', but it may have been another story if he had to fight a 'in his prime' Joe Louis! My dad saw Louis many times and used to laugh when he saw guys like Ali, Norton, Foreman, Frazier, etc. He said Joe Louis would have beaten any of these guys!
No. He wouldn't have. Joe never fought ANYONE like Liston, Frazier, Norton, Shavers- or Foreman. Billy Conn, a light-heavyweight, almost beat him. Max Schmeling knocked him out. Braddock, Galento, Buddy Baer, and Joe Walcott put Louis on the deck. Joe was great- but the fighters Ali faced and beat were far superior to the guys Joe fought. A prime Ali beats a prime Joe.
Hell NO the brown bomber beats them all! They would have been in his bum of the month club! 🥊😵🥊
@@john-sp8jkMy video foreman Louis shows exactly how Joe and his era fought. In that video, does that version of Joe look like he or anybody else would land anything on people foreman fought? , he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs. guys in the 70s-90s
So where did you get joe would beat them from? No one he fought in my video was even close to as advanced as even no names in my video,exsposed yourself
Your Father was RIGHT.
@@stuartperry1047 You can't be proven right, but you can't be proven wrong either. Fact is, you have no idea.
Are there no clear copies of this fight ?
@@BrotherPatriot
Ok Send me the link
*Look* at the speed and power? I'm sure he had both, but there's no way to tell that from this choppy, grainy old film.
Joe was an amazing fighter for his time but he wasn’t big enough to have dominated modern fighters.
My video foreman Louis shows exactly how Joe and his era fought. In that video, does that version of Joe look like he or anybody else would land anything on people foreman fought? , he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs. guys in the 70s-90s
It looks like this film has been sped up , because Joe looks so fast and Primo looks so slow.
ВЕЛИКИЙ!!!!!!!!!!
270lbs of muscle [not fat].
What kind of career did Primo Carnera have? I cant believe that i am not more familiar with this guy.
He was WHC after beating Sharkey by KO
He supposedly had a lot of fixed fights early on, but fought a lot of top fighters, Jack Sharkey, Tommy Loughran, Max Baer and Joe amongst others, became a wrestler after boxing, then wen't back to Italy opened an off-license and drunk half the stock if rumour was to believed, passed away 50 years ago
HOW BARBARIC!!
No recovery count after a knock down.!?? Wierd!!
You ought to watch dempsey vs willard no recovery 8 counts there either
Carnera was very strong but unfortunately he had a glass jaw
ay,Primo,a pawing straight jab withdrawn quicker than thrown,and feet apart
as the Gates of Hercules.
Louis was a very extremely better trained athlete at that time primo primo was just a badass primo was just a big brute and took a temple shot from that big right hand is how it all started finishing up with that left hook to the jaw anybody would go down
Did you know jess Willard was not floored until jack demspey Willard was 37 the the age when most fighters collapse same with jack johnson anybody think about jack Johnson, Jim Jeffries, bob Fitzsimmons Jim Corbett, tommy burns,john l Sullivan they were all tough Johnson v Willard fight was the longest in boxing history
this and a loaded glove
Ali wouldn't have to take that power. Louis couldn't catch Ali.
If Carnera was around today ..he would be world champion !
Carnera went six rounds with a young Joe Lewis ! that's impressive !
Peter Marino what about rocky Marciano undefeated vs primo
Today the Heavyweight division is so pathetic that if Carnera was around today he would be Champion !
I am agree he will destroy them all
As bad as Carnera was ..he KO'd Jack Sharkey ..today the Heavyweight division is pretty bad ..that's why i think Carnera with a proper trainer would be champion today !
haha are you joking me bro
Marciano isn't even a top 5 all time heavyweight, he should be lucky to be top 10
pearcemark2 don't hate on Marciano he never lost you got a Ali labeled as the greatest of all time he lost six times Marciano whoop Joe Louis's ass twice you got Joe Lewis in the top five I know you going to say Joe Lewis was out of his prime Max Baer was out of his prime when he fought Joe Lewis so was Primo carnera both of them was already beaten by James Jay Braddock in the late twenties Marciano defeated Champions like Joe Lewis jersey Joe Walcott Archie Moore retired 50 and o who you got in the top five Jack Johnson lost six times Marciano is the greatest prize fighter of all times it was not a boxer he was a slugger who defeated boxers who knocked out men who have never been knocked out who defeated men who have never been defeated who overcame disadvantages like height weight reach experience if Marciano ain't in the top five who is and what do you base your judgement off of color
@@larryhoward4713 Ali, Foreman, Lennox Lewis, Mike Tyson and Wladimar Klitschko are my top 5
Marciano truly is great but I'd have him more inclined to be in top 15 heavyweights
If you look at the facts, he wasn't fighting top notch heavyweights until he fought 37 year old Joe Louis and that was near his 40th fight
After he won the title his contenders were Jersey Joe Walcott who was not a career heavyweight and I mean that as in he fought at light heavyweight as well and he was near 40 years old
Archie Moore who was 41 at the tims was also a light heavyweight and he dropped Marciano
Ezzard Charles was 32 and a career light heavyweight but he was a fighter that would give any heavyweight problems, he was winning his fight with Marciano until Rocky finished him
Marciano retired at 32 and I would have preferred had he fought the rising Patterson which would have really showed how great he was and I do think he could have defeated him despite Patterson being 10 years younger
Ali fought numerous hall of famers, most of which while he was past his prime, in his initial prime he was 29-0 with 9 defences of his title. Foreman destroyed the black Marciano which was Frazier and he destroyed the great Ken Norton in a combined 4 rounds on top of winning the title at 45 years old against a man that defeated Holyfeild who was one of the greatest fighters of all time as well.
Lennox Lewis defeated every heavyweight he ever faced in an era that I consider the greatest in boxing history in terms of the heavyweight division and he was a 3 time legit heavyweight champion who fought super heavyweights.
Mike Tyson is the youngest heavyweight champion of all time and unified the division by the age of 23, Mike Tyson had an impressive resume defeating Holmes, Spinks, Tucker, Berbick, Smith and Bruno and he made 9 defences of his title.
Wladimar Klitschko was champion for 12 years and made 20 defences of his title, what truly cemented him as one of the best heavyweights ever in my eyes was when he fought a 28 year old undefeated Joshua and gave him a very tough fight and even knocked him despite being 41 years old himself.
@@larryhoward4713 Max Baer was 26yo when he fought Louis hardly out of his prime.
Marciano never faced a boxer puncher anywhere near prime Louis.
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Don Turner trained fighters for 40 years said NO ONE would have beaten Marciano!!!
Don Turner is wrong.
Don't think SO!!!!
This is back in the day when refs just about would not stop a fight if the fighters could stand up. In this case Primo had to tell the ref he was done.
Joe Louis was awesome especially inside, he truly was one of the greatest HWs for me id have him in 3rd or 4th Marciano and Tyson Infront, here is why people say Louis was 37 when rock fought him well Liston was 29/20 yrs older than Ali and he fought Moore 7 yrs after rocky KOd him, rocky didn't start until his mid 20s they forget Charles, vingo, la starza, Rex Layne red Applegate Tiger Lowery, Louis also was winning and winning good up until he fought rock plus every fighter that fought rocky was never the same, people talk weight he could of fought LH but didn't dam moore came in heavier, you could not train to fight him because no one fought like him he'd hit you all over and never tire, Frazier was as fit but he only had a left hook Marciano could hurt you with both hands, seriously hurt you only 3 men survived out of 49 and chins are only so good
Old school fighters had better technique modern day focus too much on athleticism
Kevintu28 plus they were much stronger back then
Lie video on my page shows george and people he fought were way more advanced in tech/timing/defense/angles used/fluidity
@@gulfy09Lie video on my page shows george and people he fought were way more advanced in tech/timing/defense/angles used/fluidity
Definitely entitled to your own opinion
Primo is actually a lot better than he is given credit for. He fought some good heavies, including Louis and Baer, and had a very respectable record.
With a great many fixed fights.
@@HankFinkle11which ones? If you're going to level allegations, give some proof.
For a big strong man Primo was not a boxer. Poor trainers hurt his career. He had braun, reach, and mass to defeat most opponents.
This big fella has a glass chin.
No, Joe Louis had Metal fists.
LOL primo is a giant
Poor Primo the Mafia used him and left him broke!
Notice how no matter how many times Carnera hits the canvas he gets up swinging. The man had guts.
Louis later said in an interview that Primo had an excellent accurate jab with an 85" reach he could do it moving away from you. He said he also hit like a bulldozer. Louis defeated Primo with skill and speed & he wasn't about to let this fight go much longer. Louis knew one shot from Primo could end it.
Primo, by the way, has the biggest KO record in the heavyweight division to this day (89 wins) with 72 by KO.
And when people say he was controlled by the mob then how did he lose to Max Baer & Joe Louis? Max was a Jew and Louis was black -- you don't think they may have interfered with that demographic in the 30s? They didn't.
The boxing game was controlled by the mob -- but in the gambling, with the oddsmakers & the concessions. Primo knocked out contenders who were all championship caliber. 103 fights & 14 losses. Never carried out. He met all comers & there were many who wouldn't get in the ring with him.
Check his physique and compare it to Tyson Fury. No comparison. Primo was a marble statue & he did not have a glass jaw. He got up after every Joe Louis bomb & got up after every Max Baer bomb.
He just wasn't as skilled as Louis, Ali, or as clever & aggressive as Marciano. But Primo did have stamina, determination & endurance. He never gave up. And that says it all in that game.
Primo was an underrated champion for sure. He fought far more durable & strong fighters than Sonny Liston did. And during Liston's championship time, he only fought 2 men: Patterson & Ali. No one else. He won both against Floyd & lost both against Ali.
Sonny was a strong intimidating heavyweight but no legendary champion. Not like Ali, Foreman & Frazier. They had to fight people like Ron Lyle & Earnie Shavers & each other. And even fighters like Jerry Quarry & Joe Bugner -- think they're not tough? Look at their long records & who they defeated in the ring. Not the types of fighters Sonny engaged with.
Had primo fought guys in 70s-90s he wouldn't had kept getting up cause they had way better punch tech and timing
@@ascendediam- And if Primo were fighting in the 70s and 90s what? He wouldn't be trained as well as those other fighters? Do you see how silly your statement is?
By the way, many fighters of Primo's era were rock-hard men & not pansies. Let me bring something to your attention -- many modern fighters today can't even go 15 rounds that's why they scaled it back to 12.
I notice that the big tough guy Tyson Fury is winded by the 3rd round many times & throws lots of telegraphing punches.
You don't see someone like Primo Carnera, Joe Louis, Ali, or Rocky Marciano breathing through their mouths by the 3rd round.
You say tech & timing but I'll put stamina, endurance, and determination ahead of all of that.
Even the Rocky movie with the big technically conditioned Russian didn't win against Rocky's guts. That's not how fighters are built.
And many fighters of that earlier era had lots of heart, guts & stamina. How does an 186 lb guy like Jack Dempsey chop down a giant like Jess Willard?
Something fighters today don't display is that grit. Look at Fury, look at that clown Bob Sapp. I'd give the edge to a street fighter like Kimbo Slice before I bet on those two. Kimbo beat some of the best & he was just a tough street fighter.
And before you say Mike Tyson this or Mike Tyson that...Tyson was trained by the same man who trained a young Rocky Marciano -- Cus D'Amato.
Tech & timing against a clever fast man like Ali -- he'd pick them apart because they wouldn't land any punches on him of consequence.
Frustration is their enemy. Just make them miss. And they will...Sonny Liston missed a lot against Cassius Clay (Ali) & he was supposed to be invincible.
(This is just a debate -- I'm not arguing with you).
@@ascendediam - You can't even write a complete sentence. What the hell are you talking about? It's beyond BS.
Everything is a run-on sentence with few capitals beginning a sentence, bad grammar, and capital letters after commas. Do you proof anything you write? I won't even entertain your post until you get a diploma from a reputable school.
You certainly didn't get many high marks in creative writing. What a joke. And I was trying to talk to you civilly. Obviously, this is not going to work. Maybe you were a former boxer who got hit too many times in the cranium? (Cranium -- look it up in the dictionary).
@@ascendediam- You can't even write a sentence properly. Go to bed on that.
@@lastrada52 Video side by side of louis era compared to 70s-90s foreman fought, shows the 70s-90s were way more advanced in angles used/defense/timing/tech and fought smarter
side by side only 10 mins,that's the exact way these era's fought not these flawed best moments highlights hahaha exposed person who isn't sane
Poor quality video. There are Jack Johnson fights from the early 1900's that are clearer than this. What gives?
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Primo was great, considering his height and weight.These guys where boxers, they represented the sport as true gentlemen. Today they are snowmen, just like football players.
You people say the oddest stuff this looks like novices no one made mid fighting like this in 70s,you're not sane
@@ascendediam why do you think I give a SHIT about what you think?🤣🤣🤣
@@Happy-wb8gi find a way to make joe and his era as advanced as guys george fought on my page,oh you can't🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Happy-wb8gi stay hurt at not being able to make these guys as advanced as ones in 70s lunatic
@@Happy-wb8gi I'll keep exposing you cu!t members lunatics
Joe Louis was the greatest boxer of all time
the brown bomber
Primo's footwork is good, considering his size. His stance, however, is too straight ang rigid. He shows some decent, basic skills, though, at least before gassing out. Louis, on his part, is as agile & quick as a feline, stalking his prey, wasting no energy till he finds the chance to launch his attack. Wonderful display of the boxing science on Joe's part
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There is no way ali could of taken that power and kept going! In my opinion Joe Louis is the second greates heavy weight of all time after marciano! Ali was very, very overated as a boxer, he should of fought lousie in his prime!!!
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one thing primo had was lots of courage , and usually in great condition , he would have beaten either klitchko
ok now u are drunk
My video foreman Louis shows exactly how Joe and his era fought. In that video, does that version of Joe look like he or anybody else would land anything on people foreman fought? , he and guys from his time look like novices compared side by side to no names Foreman fought, and in no way does anyone from that era look like they would last 1 round vs. guys in the 70s-90s
Big, strong guy who was not a boxer ... got started as a pro in 1928 fighting hobos in Italy. His inexperience, lack of sense and lack of timing shows up in the bouts I've seen. The Klitschko's weren't as strong, for sure. The fight wouldn't have lasted very long.
Joe Louis was the greatest
Facing obsolete fighters no one made mid/top guy in 70s-90s fighting as? Makes no sense at all
Carnera would not be good today either.
Back then didn't have a lot of belts like wbc,who,ibf and more top contenders were great lot of talent
They had to have better technique because they weren't as good athletically.
Why would anyone think Primo had good technique ... he learned on the fly, with no amateur career, with 2nd rate trainers.
@thomashahn631 great point.thanks
Louis was great, maybe the best. But Carnera made a lot of guys look better than they were. He was an absolute bum
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Carnera kept his left glove down, and Louis kept hitting the wide open target with his right hand. You could see Carnera, after the first round, was almost looking to get hit every time Louis closed in.
@@ascendediam If Louis had the training of a way more advanced pro boxer like they existed in the '70s, Joe would have destroyed Primo, you DO know that, don't you? Large size doesn't prove anything, now OR then. Just ask Mike Tyson about that.
@@felixmadison5736 I said training, not size; you’re slow. I’m 100, right,You don’t want to admit it yet, but you know I am, and Mike fought way more advanced fighters, so quoting him makes no sense at all.
Mikes style was a combo of Dempsey/jersey ontop of stuff they didn't even do, he learned from the past and fixed errors
@@ascendediam What your talking is jibberish! Just admitting your wrong is enough to convince me.
@@ascendediam That's right! You said 'training' not size, so if Louis is training the same as Carnera, then Louis would have really beaten the crap out of him. Man, you ARE slow!! LOL!!
@@felixmadison5736 keep trolling you can't alter footage to make old fighters as advanced, hurts i know
The stupid people that think today's fighter's were better are stupid, these old black and white flicks don't do the fighter's justice, these is the fastest they can play them otherwise it would be a blurred mess, fighter's of old were far superior then today's and a lot tougher to
Lie video on my page shows george and people he fought were way more advanced in tech/timing/defense/angles used/fluidity
Joe Louis was a bum.