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I went through 5 years of fine arts and while I learned a lot of things, painting techniques were certainly not one of them. You need to choose your courses well, if technical knowledge is what you're after. Mostly we were pushed into abstract art and abstract thinking, figurative painting was nearly a taboo, sadly. Anyway, your painting is very good technically and I love it! Obviously you can see all the things you want to improve and that's a good thing! Keep going!
this. Additionally one extra thing i got from Art Academy was anxiety and panic attacks that left me not graduating, and right now i know a lot about art history, kandinsky, abstract art and principles of design but im left off way worse because i cant find any joy in apinting pretty pictures because i feel like its "wrong" and i will be judged by my academy background collegues.
@@mald379 I'm so sorry. One artist to another, my heart breaks for you.
@mald379 they obviously do this for one reason and one reason only, they are jealous, they know you have talent and they do NOT want you to succeed.. PRACTICE, PRACTICE, AND PRACTICE, prove them WRONG and NEVER EVER GIVE UP... I hope you get this message..
@@alimcbally2339 true! One of my “teachers” stole one of my paintings. And I was only 12yrs old. The school closed and when the students went to pick up their works, my painting was gone. Years later, my mom found it at my “teacher’s” gallery. Of course, no way to get it back.
The hardest thing about being self taught is the lack of feedback and critique that art schools would provide. It takes time and experience to know what is wrong with an art piece especially at the beginning.
But even if you're past that stage, the problem of whether to be lax or strict on your standards for your art and skills is the next problem. Finding that middle ground of being kind to yourself while still maintaining some standard to keep improving is hard.
I also think that coming up with original art is hard for most self-taught artists. Art schools are known for setting confines and limits with art projects but I think that that really helps you improve your brainstorming ideas and execution. It teaches you to think creatively, essentially wheres too much freedom tends to lead to creating nothing and disjointed art works for me. Sometimes, setting boundaries and limites makes you push the idea to it's most creative, if that makes sense haha
For me it’s mostly to have the discipline to study fundamentals and not just doodle around. Sure you learn something from doodling (I enjoy doing it to come up with ideas too) but I feel like progress is way slower...
Good point, honestly, that was the majority of art school. Feedback. Not necessarily anyone teaching me to do anything, but daring me to be better at what I was already doing.
I absolutely hated the assignments because I almost never got to do what I wanted--which actually stripped my creativity away over time, but what you said is spot on for what the assignments are designed to do. I will add on that they help with time management, and introduce you to the concept of taking commissions (creating work for other people based completely on their ideas, but in your style and personal technique).
@@nonalolagirl yea I know I wouldn't like art anymore if I went art school and all the people I've talked to that actually finished school said it took away their passion for art which is totally understandable. You can't force creativity.
@@aspenisthebest I think anyone interested in art should take maybe 1-2 yrs of art school to get the critique, refine their technique, and get the planning and presentation down. Then transfer into business so they know how to brand, sell, and do their own accounting.
I am technically a self taught artist but thanks to school I know how to properly display and sell my art. I know when to stop working on something and when to step back and switch something up because I know how to be critical and take criticism.
I'm sorry to hear that your friends lost their passion. I definitely didn't lose my passion for art. I think of it every day and have so many ideas that I have a journal full of them. But it's been harder to get the motivation to get started and looking at a blank canvas I don't just burst out painting anymore. I sit there planning ideas and refining before I even make it to the canvas because school taught me that I need to have a sketch first. I need to have something to show someone a rough idea of my plan, and make sure it's good. Think of the colors and materials before I start. When my best work is literally done when I wing it around a basic idea and don't plan. I just edit as I go.
This burnout has lasted for years unless someone else commissions me to come up with something then I'm fine. I don't want to be the artist that survives on commissions, so it's awful. I want to sell my own complete ideas and vision without anyone's guidelines, but I'm working through it and know my childlike creativity will be back in no time.
I disagree 100%
“The struggles of being self-taught”
My mind : being broke
lmaoo or anxiety and insecurity
Ha! Same
Feeling like you're not improving is one too.
FR!!!
I feel this. Then remember I don't have 40-100k of debt from an art school :D
As another self-taught traditional artist who stresses about it a lot, I wish you more enjoyment of your process. You deserve it. You've clearly worked very hard to make it so beautiful. May you get to enjoy its beauty at least half as much as us fans of you do. ✨🎨🖌️
WELL SAID
Being self-taught in any field usually brings insecurities and a sense of asking too much of oneself. If I can be honest, you're an amazing artist and your videos inspire me a lot to put aside my tiredness and work on my art after work.
Just be YOU and do what YOU do, that is the best advice you can ever receive
and do not let anyone, not even yourself steal that away.
As someone who goes to art school (university) in the Philippines...I have to say I actually don't feel like I'm learning what I need. Especially as a digital artist, because the digital art education is really lacking here. I have this feeling that I can learn more from a few months of workshops than years in university. At least for my university they already expect you to be good from the get-go (from applications before you even get in). It's still a school and there's still a grading system, and with that those who are already good are praised (+get high grades) and those who are mediocre are not noticed.
This might be different for other countries though, because I saw an acquaintance go to art school for digital works in Singapore and they improved a huge ton.
im from ph as well! what art workshops do you go to/recommend?
I think it might be different in certain parts of Europe, like Italy, since they take art very seriously as a culture, preserve the culture and pass down techniques from all of the italian art masters for centures. However, what you described is just about the same in North America as well. You aren't taught what you think you need to learn or what you really want to learn to be like the artists you love. They expect you to know how to do everything and expect you to know what type of artist you want to be from the beginning.
At my school in particular, in the fine arts studio program, the one thing I loved is that after the 1st year, the professors for the most part, recognized that each student had a different style. Some were into realism, some had more of an illustrative style, cartooning, or abstract, and the professors shifted their critiques and pointers for each artists style, so they were graded on how they improved and really honed their style, not on how good vs mediocre they were overall. That was definitely the grading system in all of the intro or first year courses though.
yah hard reality to aspiring digital artists/illustrator that lives in PH, they only care about the traditional scene, I recommend investing more on online art courses like schoolism,domestika,skillshare,Proko
(mahirap sa bansa naten kung di ka willing mag self-train walang mangyayari,depende nalang sa mga may mentor)
Art students go through the exact same struggles as you do. And you do great. Your technique is on an advanced level, and you are good at self assessment. Look at the silver lining of not going to formal art school at college: you've steared free of a huge student debt. Instead, choose some of the many excellent online couses - many of them offer free tutorials as well here at TH-cam e.g. The Virtual Instructor, Lachri Fine Art, Andrew Tischler, Academic Drawing, and many more.
Having too much freedom as a self-taught artist does make you just paralyzed with all the choices and ideas and so much chances to do that you end up doing nothing. but I think that's what will make it much more rewarding. although it is hard really hard, but we gotta keep going. gotta keep grinding.
Just be YOU and do what YOU do, that is the best advice you can ever receive
Being a self taught artist is sometimes hard but I think that I have some art freedom that people from art school are predetermined with some schooling techniques/styles... I think that art would be boring if every artist was from the art academy :D :D love your artwork very much and the process was very interesting to watch :) love the way you used layers - I didn't like painting in layers until I started using watercolors... oh, and love the earth color combination you used :) have a wonderful day! Mary
@Lisabëth Rosemõon Magical Drawings agree!! :) My father in law is an academic artist/painter and he thought me many great things about painting and art but he doesn't get it why I do inking before coloring my illustrations :D He says: but you don't have to, pencil sketch is nicer - and me: but that's my style and I like it just the way I do it :D :D
Um, I’m in school for art and they don’t really do that so I’m not sure exactly what you’re talking about with academic styles but most schooling is still self taught, as in you still learn and choose on your own, the first levels sometimes require stuff but most done.
After such a long time, but glad you are back.
Thank you so much, this piece stressed me out so much that i had to step away from Instagram amd youtube 🥲
WONDERFUL PAINTING!!!!
I think the biggest myth about art is that it's "easy" for other people. It isn't. Every artist I've talked with - weather they have been to art school or not, is that they struggle to perfect their art. I've NEVER heard another artist, amateur or professional, say that they're completely satisfied with their artwork. Every artist knows their perceived weaknesses and strives to improve. Art school isn't gonna change that.
Art school gives you opportunities to explore various media and techniques under the guidance of someone who has developed their skills in the media they're teaching, but all you're really getting is a distillation of that person's experience. There are lots of artists out there with different ways of handling that same media. No single approach is better than another. Art school grades you on conforming to the school and the instructor's criteria, so if you have a unique approach that yields unconventional results, the art school system will push you into abandoning your unique voice in favor of what the school deems "socially acceptable".
You didn't miss anything by skipping art school. There are tons of tutorials on TH-cam and online classes from places like Domestika or SkillShare, even places in your local community, that can introduce you to every media in existence and a multitude of techniques for those media, presented by a plethora of instructors who have honed their unique approach. Take advantage of those free or inexpensive resources and explore what resonates with you, without being graded on your conformity to the thought police. Or, you can go to art school and pay so much money for the privilege of being indoctrinated that you'll be broke for much of the rest of your life trying to pay off the debt you incurred, working a non-art job you hate because it pays the bills, all the while trying to find your way back to your unique artistic perspective when you're totally exhausted from the 9-5. The choice is up to you.
What you said is true on many levels, I am glad that even tho l wasn't opportune to study Art in the university, l ended up studying an entirely different course. After graduating l decided to improve my art skills through TH-cam tutorials, downloading art books online and creating my unique pattern. Tho l dont have a specific art style, l don't think being a self artist is the reason l don't feel satisfied with my art at some point.
True, school doesn't teach you everything, it puts some limitations on one to some extent. I totally agree with everything you have said here
I would never say that art is easy but I personally find it relaxing. There are some works I've done that I'm very satisfied with so I can't really relate to that.
Being a self taught artist is a struggle
When I'm doing a piece, I just 'paint and pray' that it will turn out fine.
Haha I'm a beginner self taught and this is my daily mantra when I start a piece 😂😅
Just be YOU and do what YOU do, that is the best advice you can ever receive
and do not let anyone, not even yourself steal that away.
Wow! We are a bunch of self thought artists 👩🎨 , we have struggles but what makes it beautiful is that capability we have to learn by ourselves and we deserve the credit as no one thought us, we have to enjoy it and be more appreciative of what we create! We have to learn to be more compassionate towards our art 🖼 and love it. We might create bad art but in the way we learn by our mistakes and we improve by them.
Good & bad with self taught. The best thing is you study exactly what you want to & you remember better learning from your mistakes. With a teacher, you follow their lessons and techniques - whether you want to or not. You will find your way.
you're very critical of your own process but i honestly see a lot of visual troubleshooting and problem solving through this whole video!!! and i think the end product is incredibly perfect
I’m aswell a self trained artist. It’s interesting and frustrating at the same time. You have to encourage yourself every day to keep up.
especially when anxiety comes, you don't have anybody else but only yourself 😌
Just be you is the best advice you will ever get
Self taught artists or not, you are still valid, still an artist. We have different struggles and some doesn't but that doesn't mean they are not an artist. Art is skill based, not talent and it annoys most of us. Imagine spending hours just for people to call it a talent. Anyways, the point is any of you guys can be a great artist. It may take long, or short. Just don't give up, keep painting, drawing, illustrating till you can't.
@Ashley Zabaska I KNOW RIGHT!!
@Ashley Zabaska you right, When I invite people to draw or when I motivate them to draw, they always give me answers like this, I can't draw because I'm not talented as you or I can't even draw a circle properly..., but it's not only about talent if you practice hard you can also be an artist, for me everything it's art, you don't need draw like 3D or too perfect to be an artist....
Art school/college is most useful in learning to receive critiques, networking and vocabulary. Technique can be learned from TH-cam, art courses online (particularly those that are specialized/focused). tbh I haven't heard even the best artist who attended art colleges who will say they learned everything in school. Most learned more after. If you feel insecure about your use of technique, terminology etc., there's nothing wrong with online classes or find a mentor you can go to for pointers. But to end, be kind to yourself. You're very harsh in your criticism towards yourself.
It's really pretty.... The colors you chose just feel so nostalgic 🥺🥺🥺🥺
I went to college and uni both for art and we were honestly not taught the things you mentioned besides terminology and art style, we were expected to go off and learn those other things ourselves lol and still pay for classes
art classes can be great for being around like minded people but honestly you are no better off then just learning yourself and for a lot cheaper (sometimes free!)
Fantastic use of color and form! Thanks for sharing your thoughts and your beautiful artwork!
I litterarly love your art, whenever I'm down or feel insecure about my own art I always come to your videos and just watch you paint, it truly inspires me and I feel like I learn so much from your techniques.
A great misconception is that going to school for art is the same as formal training. If you get formal training in a particular area of art, such as workshops or master classes in Europe, you're taught technique step by step. You're all but handheld all the way through each brush stroke, you get to shadow master artists to learn their techniques. Techniques that have been passed down through centuries. You are molded and shaped to work in a particular style and to master a particular medium. You might get some foundational courses, but they all directly relate to your area of interest.
With art school, you have to have a background in art, because you have to turn in a portfolio to be accepted. You have to be self taught in a way, as in have decent practice or decent art outside of the high school art classes, or your portfolio can be rejected. From there, you are introduced to concepts, art materials, and mediums. You have to work in a vast amount of media in school before you can get to your concentration- whether it's drawing, painting, sculpture, printmaking, industrial design. You will be working in all of these areas and may have little time for the areas you truly want to learn about. All of these classes are indirectly, and sometimes directly, helping with your area of interest though, because they teach you to constantly be mindful of broad art concepts such as value, dimension, color relation, planning, measuring, framing, and history. You have professors from all art backgrounds-abstract, realism, ect. Most are working artists, of varying skillsets but they are pros at what they do. I wouldn't call them masters, however. And they introduce you to the medium and give you subject or ideas, and you literally have to figure out how to use that medium to create what they tell you to create, on your own.
It's like they give you a different pan but the same ingredients to every student and tell you to cook and see what you come up with, as long as it follows a theme. Everyone's plate will look different, everyone's technique, and skillset is different. Someone could be a grad student and their skills might be far behind yours, for example, because we all have to take a personal interest and teach ourselves based on what you're given. If you don't do that extra step, you'll lag behind. While you are learning from these assignments, it's mostly planning and time management and how to take critique and direction through varying stages of the development of the assignment. But you aren't taught when to glaze, how to paint leaves, what colors to mix with what unless you can find classes on glazing. Unless you can find a class on color mixing. From my experience, such classes don't usually exist, but may pop up for the public as workshops or temporary offerings for those open credits. Students can get a quick introduction to certain techniques if you take intro to painting/printing/sculpture course and the professor is there if you literally want to ask those questions (but they most likely won't think you need to be shown something unless you speak up). In other instances, a professor might not even know how to paint portraits unless it's a portrait painting class. They might specialize in watercolor landscapes and teach you a watercolor class where you work with a live model, so if you ask about skin details, they will help but not be incredibly adept in that themselves. One of my professors taught a digital media class one year and was my drawing teacher the next year. One was my new forms (installation and video) professor one year and my live model painting instructor another year and I could tell he couldn't paint that well xD.
Depending on your course load and level, you might not even think to speak up unless you have already honed your skills and know a certain thing you personally want to work on and you can get a quick demo from the professor if there is time. My understanding of a vast aray of concepts go into my art every day, but no one taught me how to paint (with the exception of oil paint - we were taught some basic techniques because it is really hard to know if you've never used it before, without instruction). I don't know how other schools worked, but mine functioned on the assumption that we all knew what we were doing, the professors were there to help guide us to do what we do, but they wanted to help us become slightly better. We strived to improve. They never tried to shape or mold us, which I assume is done in a school or workshop for formal training in a particular subject and medium, which is built around a master's techniques. Art in school, is not.
This comment was very true
even though i don't go to an art school but a graphic design major in one of the universities here in southeast asia, i totally agree with this.
I Disagree, you get taught what an instructor wants you to learn and that is a small percentage of the ART world and those Masters, if alive today many of them would be drummed out of the ART Community of today and yet they are called masters and their works priceless but many can not fathom either foundation
@Ed Will I said a lot here, I see you are going around saying you disagree with things but what do you disagree with specifically? My assessment of a masterclass?
Or of art school? Most schools will offer dozens of different art making media classes for their students to take. Not just painting, drawing, and sculpture. There are foundation classes, core classes, supplemental classes, and extracurricular classes in a broad range of subjects and medium so students will gain a broad range of knowledge whether you agree or not.
I took over 50 art courses to get my bachelor's degree, because my former college required more credits to graduate than normal schools, and I have looked into the requirements of other schools and have seen very similar classes, so I think I know what I'm talking about. I have also worked with artists on different city projects and thanks to instagram and tiktok I can see that I understand and have done what nearly every artist is doing because I learned that specific art media in school. From video, to animation, to metal working, to woodworking, to printmaking, to ceramics, to digital art and so much more.
My professors didn't teach us "what they wanted to," they gave broad lesson plans/topics/guidelines with every assignment to guide us through various concepts. They all reminded us to be aware of certain concepts while we were creating and if we weren't aware, someone would bring it up in critique so it was inescapable. Yet no one's art ever looked the same because we all interpreted things in different ways and in our own styles. We had a little freedom. For example, a 3D art professor told everyone to make an action figure of a professor. Everyone chose different professors, different colors, and had different skill sets and no two toys looked the same despite us all using the same plastics the professor showed us. We all walked away toy makers after that when we had never made a plastic toy in our lives and the instructor didn't care what we did as long as we had an action figure at the end and convinced him it was a professor.
Once in a while you'll get the odd professors who will give everyone the same subject matter, such as painting the same object but then the students can pick the style and have some choice on which colors/wet media they use, so again it's not dead on what the professor wants. I was painting a life model in class once and got bored and did my abstract interpretation of it and the professor didn't care as long as I painted the model.
Unless you mean a master class or workshop. Those leave no room for interpretation because you are learning precise and very exact techniques. Master classes are still highly regarded in the art world and masters are still respected. Masterclasses are literally the top ways working artists make money year round, similar to a musician going on tour. They teach workshops so I'm not sure what your rant about masters is about. I'm not just referring to dead artists here. I mean living masters of their crafts. Some teach techniques they may have invented, not just passed down techniques. They literally can do things very few artists in the world can do, which is why millions of artists unanimously agree and call them masters.
@@nonalolagirl Yes you indeed said a lot and gave your opinion, same as I
And I disagree with much of what you stated, the same as I am sure you disagree with mine, and that is OK.
But if you read my comment it speaks for itself, it needs no further explanation
its so hard being self taught but its such a flex
I see your point but I went to art school and it wasn’t for me and they for sure didn’t teach me how to navigate the art field. They just wanted my money. My opinion is that you should take classes and courses that you think will help you of course! but I am against all for profit private “art schools”. The quality of education you can get from a community or state college is on par with the most highly esteemed art colleges just with out the “reputation” and fancy piece of paper (Which btw none of my employers have ever actually asked for) And I’ve done both community college art classes and a legit art university. And now I’m actually enrolled in an online course that a successful artist started herself. No credits, much more affordable and honestly I’m learning more than I did in four years of art school. Look at live model sessions or classes at your local art center or museum offers, you’d be surprised how many other options there are than graduating with extreme debt. If you get involved in your local art community you can make connections with artists and possibly find a mentor. I found an apprenticeship with a stained glass artist and I was paid to learn a whole new trade. Literally anything else but a private art college please
this video was kind of sad to watch- this is a beautifully stunning painting and it felt like listening to your inner critic talk the whole time :( i understand wanting to be real and share your true feelings about the piece, but based on the artwork you produce i think a lot of what you mention "not knowing" is more about not being secure about your skills as an artist !!! also as someone else who hasn't gone to art school, i would agree that classes of any kind, in a school setting or one-on-one or wherever you can get them, are great- as are learning through reading and video classes and practice. i can't speak from personal experience but i would think that art students go through the same frustrations, and it's only because of the high level of output that they may seem to improve faster and bypass the struggles we self-taught artists have to deal with... just some thoughts! i love this painting & thanks for sharing!
I really like this comment section. It's good to read about other people's experiences. I hope I can take some art classes soon.
I think your works are very pretty and I actually learned valuable gouache painting tips. Currently I'm learning all the fundamentals from colour, anatomy and background through TH-cam and it's been quite a journey. I wished I started the process much earlier, like every other talented young artists. But I have slowly make myself stop comparing what I'm not good at to what others are, and just really enjoy the process at my own pace. Instead I learn what others are good at and study from them, including your works! There are resources online that I think would be on par with what they teach at art schools. Hope everything will go well for you!
I’m self taught as well , with the odd art class here and there and watching other artists and there techniques, but I get you when people judge the self taught artist .
I agree with Diana's comment, and you might consider tha Da Vinchi was self-taught.....
And you did very well yourself and many, many people are learning from you. Your paintings are beautiful!
I wholeheartedly agree on all of your points. The stress of wanting your piece to look the way you want it to just really get me a little frustrated sometimes. And also, For me ,I struggled in finding what type of art to practice. For now I am typically going to and fro with charcoal drawing and painting. It's hard to practice when I can't make up my mind sometimes. I also agree on taking so long to finish one art. It's a struggle for me too, being a beginner and all.
Anyway, I really liked your paintings and how you do them. Thank you for being an inspiration. I hope I'm going to be as good as you in the future. 😊
The concept artist Trent Kaniuga (on youtube) says that you should be proud of the struggle you go through as a self-taught artist as it makes you a stronger person and artist. It's a more rewarding experience.
I found art classes mega helpful and I do mean helpful, my art leveled up like two or three levels when i did. I think the structure of feedback and compulsory practice helps, especially for my drawing classes.
I think you did so well. Be confident in yourself. Planning everything is not always good with art. I really think you did a great job! (Me not knowing at all how to draw)
This is so beautiful!
Very good . Congratulations from Brazil !
I’ll admit, I don’t have a lot of experience with art school, but the few drawing classes I took taught me so, so little. We learned about which pencils to use. We learned what erasers did what. We did weird and stressful bouts of life drawing (like having to finish someone else’s piece). And most of all, we learned what our teacher liked and didn’t like. Now, my three dimensional design class and my ceramics class? Those taught me a lot.
You really do have to pick your classes well. And honestly, you can learn every bit of what you’d get in a class from TH-cam, or Skillshare.
actually the hardest thing about being self taught is people telling me I should go to art school. Or telling you, "oh, you're so good, you should go to college for art!!!". No. NO. I did it on my own. I'm DOING it on my own. Art classes/college will get you a lot of things. Base technique, and a degree or certificate that will probably get you some rather good jobs. BUT you lose your sense of self. You need that journey, and it's a long one. You can't just cut from beginner to expert. If you don't have the whole entanglement, you're not making art. You're just a printer. It'll just look like everybody else's. It won't be really and truly YOURS.
PS the painting is lovely :)
I loved this piece when I saw it posted in a FB group and now you're in my recommendeds. Had no idea you had a YT channel. Hi! I'm excited to see your process.
I also am self taught and I can certainly agree on this! There’s just a very obvious disconnect in certain aspects of my knowledge bc I didn’t know to study this before that and some of my fundamentals are shaky despite me making decent enough art
Happy to watch this! Proud of you exploring with backgrounds! 🥺🌸🌹
art school / taking classes for art are a great way of learning how to take critique, how to take that critique and either apply it to future works or try to improve the piece in question, how to think abstractly, how to /work/ abstractly, how to network, the terminology. but the one thing art school / a lot of classes dont teach you is technical skill. they really do expect you to learn that on your own. either through working on it in your spare time, or by taking specific classes that might not even be needed to pass for the year.
i dont disagree that art school / classes are a good way of learning certain skill sets! but they arent exactly the cure all for what you may struggle with in the process of making your own pieces. what i see you struggle with in the video is exactly what i saw ppl in art school struggle with- and continue to struggle with well past graduation. its always a learning process. picking and choosing classes, if you can afford them, can help! but self teaching yourself either through tutorials online or taking references... that helps, too. either way, this piece was beautiful, i really enjoyed watching the process.
I love your art! I think it’s beautiful!
ahhh omg so excited 😩 i’ve been binging your videos and now there’s a new one tomorrow !!
I went to art school and learned figure and fashion illustration. I can’t paint like this. Have more inner faith in your innate ability. Your struggles, your process footsteps, these are your technical training, never underestimate the power of learning by doing. Try to list down everything you have taught yourself. Break it down step by hard won step. Think your process through and will see a pattern to your learning. If you are concerned about values then take a black and white photo of your part finished or finished pieces. Check them for a value study, do this regularly and you will see, (instinctively almost over time) where to push back certain values, where to sharpen others. Where to deepen what needs to be darker and what to lighten. Remember your learning now may well one day be someone’s else learning because if you can make sense of your progress you just may well be able to pass on that knowledge to others. And also, I love your style and your unique colour mixes! You may never have developed this style if you had had formal training!
I really love the color palette of this piece. It's so pleasing and relaxing since i love the combination of green and a warm color ❤️❤️
yesss i LOVE art talks! and by the thumbnail, i can already say the artwork is a masterpiece 💞
Beautiful painting!
Art school can also be described as the most expensive studio space you"ll ever rent! We were largely expected to know how to paint when we got there. The actual technical teaching was sparse and as others have already mentioned, figurative painting was not encouraged. If you know you want to learn colour theory or learn more on planning then find a course or a tutor who can teach you those specific skills. A lot is just practice and asking for advice from your peers so get a network of other painters around you. I think your painting is fantastic and the colours are so harmonious. Also perspective sucks and this has some really tricky angles!
Love your honesty and patience to see a work through to the end. Love the work.
I really love your color palette for this beautiful painting, and the way you added a really nice, interesting complementary background. I struggle with backgrounds. ❤️
Your work is awesome. Thanks for sharing. 🥰
💕 thanks for sharing your experience!
you are great at combining colors!
congratulations!!
Im also a self taught artist. I did attend a couple art courses later on after I was already working professionaly and it helped me a lot. People always tend to be more impressed if anything. Also, i feel like i have a totally different experience because i draw exclusively what people need me to draw for them. I dont remeber the last time i drew something that came from me. I draw mascots, characters for magazines, illustrated ads, school posters etc. I draw for people who cant do it themselves.
I watched this video with no sound at first because I wanted to fall asleep to it, and I came back to it to listen to what you were saying and I gotta say, I was surprised. When I first watched it, all I could think about was how beautiful this piece was, how great the colors worked together, how lively the person and the background looked. I'm a self taught artist as well and your art is a huge, huge, huge inspiration and comfort to me
I feel like the only teaching for painting is to paint. You need to try and practice a lot. No teacher can teach you exactly what you need. So keep the spirit up!! Your art is amazing.
Can you might post a full timelapse of you painting with Gouache?
Aaaaa How beautiful it looks!!!
Thank you so much, Malisse!
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I love ur art!
Amazing painting
Awesome!!!!soo much beautiful painting!!!❤❤❤❤
lapit na mag 100k!! congrats ate ham
you are sooo talented I hope to see an artbook of yours in the future
This is such a beautiful painting
Square space 😍😍😍😍😍😍
Your a excellent artist!!! 💐Good luck 👍🏼 you almost have 100k subscribers
muy bonito tu dibujo, yo tambien soy autodidacta en cuanto a dibujar y pintar, no soy tan bueno en la pintura, mi fuerte es el dibujo a lapiz y tinta.
saludos desde colombia.
Such a beautiful drawing
Looks amazing! Thank you!
I am not a big fan of the phrase "self-taught", we all learn from other artists and things that we see. Unless you exist in a void and you came up with everything yourself, of course. If a person watches someone dance and then they repeat that dance, they were taught by that person - for example.
The joy of how online the art community is now, its pretty easy to find peers to help with feedback!
Ikr all the little skill I have is from a artist name adcartattack (great skilled artist by the way ) even tho I’m not in any art school adcartattack has taught me every thing I know so I get what your saying when you say you don’t like the term self taught artist
peers that bully you yes super
Mmm I think you are missing the point. I think she means the set system of art school. Yes you can be taught by all kinds of things and people. But there is something about learning in a setting where you can have a constant feedback is sure different
@@douseenow It’s not. Sometimes it makes you worse when you don’t want to do what they want you to do and will break and shape you to do stuff you don’t like. You’re basically doing commissions for professors. You don’t get great feedback.
More of pressure and bullying I would say
It's so beautiful !! I love your drawings ! 😍
back when i studed idustrial art, if we mix more diffirent 3 color, color turn to grey and plant which not funtion color developt anymore..so harmony art combine color really big skill for anyone doing great at it...i mean it made your art stand out general
Being taught by someone can end up making person hate drawing. While you're self-taught you go on an adventure of finding things for yourself, although it can be longer, but in the end it's your own thing how you do it. My niece learns art and they have the painting class and the teacher there is so non-flexible type, not really teaching, but just directing in the way she wants and it's the only right way, everything else sucks. Sure my niece wasn't into painting before that, although I think she never painted before so where should that conviction come from, she believes that idea of hers, but I think that even before she could dive into painting she met with such a teacher who made her believe she just hates painting. I don't force her to follow the path, I just find it a pity, instead of at least having a neutral outlook on it, she came to dislike it all together.
...so your learned a bunch of the principles first intuitively, by feel, and you picked up some standard terminology later. Looks and sounds like it worked for you. Seems like the struggle with this piece was worth it. It turned out great, AND you have a great story behind it!!
I know you said you had your struggles with this painting, but imo it turned out amazing!!
I love your voice so much
I love this piece so much 😍
A good [color] eye ....and have fun doing it, that's ART to me..You're Art looks very nice to me but less stress moree fun will give love into it. ;-)
I absolutely adore it. 👌 But i am also a "self-taught".
Don't go to art school/college. Besides the points I already said, it's a 50/50 chance you'll get a good professor that knows what they're doing and will nurture your talent...or some dude that is literally there to get paid. And either way you're still in debt. You need to surround yourself with likeminded people. Artists, nice people, friends, people who make you bloom.
i really love your art
i'd love to know how you practiced painting when you were beginning as a self taught painter! i for one am having a difficult time knowing where to start with learning how to paint :'(
if you already have regular gouache, would you recommend getting acrylic gouache as well?
This is really beautiful and I love it so much. I don’t really get why you feel this is bad technically.
You are so hard with yourself! I know exactly how it feels like to criticise my own work, and how frustrating it can be, but still you are extremely talented and made an amazing art piece!! Be proud ❤️
Such a satisfying art video. Really enjoyed the content. Big like💜❤💜
Self taught / teaching in my opinion based on experience, is usually the best learning process one can go through . When one attends an art class/school they do learn a lot but mostly what the school/teacher wants to teach whether it benefits the students desires or not .
When one teaches themselves they go through a learning process of trial and error and they learn their own techniques and usually hone them to perfection within their desire and process.
Some will claim because their is no critical observation such as evaluations and analyzing the creative work that leaves the self guided artist into substandard or mistakes they can not see nor understand.
BUT I disagree and the reason is, every artist IS a Critic and they do evaluate and analyze their own works and they base it on the art of others in the similar venue .
Any art teacher will say it needs done this way or that, BUT again that is their own opinion based on their own standards and experience as they to are critics and summarize their wisdom based on their own standard they set for themselves.
Take many of the Masters whose works in my opinion are very poor, BUT in the art world are masterpieces based on others opinions who demand they are priceless .
All things are subject to a persons own mindset based on either simple opinions of their own desires or based on some experience they have endured and or the set of standards another artist has taught them and perhaps in some cases a critic and or a collector all whose mindset is on self gain, opinions
SO do not let anyone steal your creative talents by their suggestive ideology of how IT should be instead of how YOU want it to be .
There lies the far differences in art schools/classes to Self taught creativity
That is after all just my opinion, by my many years of life and experience and selling of my own works over time, tends to give me enough wisdom to make that opinion public.
I disagree. Sounds like you haven't stepped foot in an art school in the 2000s, Ed. All of my art professors was able to see what each of their students style, skill levels, and techniques and worked with us to help us further improve upon what we were already doing. They never tried to mold us into clones of them. They were teaching us things they weren't even doing because they knew it would better OUR personal works and personal style and there are certain concepts a student, an intermediate should know and won't just pick up on their own without input and knowledge that they've had in all of their experiences as working artists. Which all of my professors were and most art professors are.
Most people who attend workshops with master artists are artists themselves and they formed their own opinions that they liked someone's art style and they want to learn that persons techniques. Not because they expect to walk away being like their hero, but because they know they can use the new techniques they learned to improve their own art and their own techniques. Get out of your plastic bubble. Art school and art classes aren't regressive or restrictive but can have negative impacts if certain discipline is never learned. If the artist doesn't know how to free themselves and let loose. Likewise, the self taught artist will always do well to have some time restrictions and guidelines and learn new techniques from others or on classes to keep up their technical skills, continue learning, growing and stay fresh.
@@nonalolagirl IT is good that people disagree, BUT does not make either one absolutely correct and here is why,
YOU assume being in an art school / Institution you were given the positive path to Art and instructed on the very best level of academia and your instructors lead you down the perfect path ( and for you that is OK and also for others if they wish ) and yet with your own words in your own comment gave the same instruction and information i gave without a school or Institution nor your precious professors who also did their own thing to accomplish their position in your school/Institution.
The problem is why you can not see that which you yourself described to yourself and your fellow students is beyond me?
I am well past the age of attending any school and in my condition I simply am not able to if I even wanted to ( which btw I do not nor need to )
Typing is even a challenge now days but my mind is clear and my opinions based on experiences well past many of your professors BUt again that is MY WAY, it is not for everyone to follow my path, many could not anyway .
NO ONE needs a school or any Institution. Art is NOT about being taught someone else's ideologies or what past artists did or did not do unless as you yourself described wanted to follow the path of someone they think to be their hero in Art.
Which also is great IF that is what THEY desire
And to break the news to you there is NOTHING New under the heavens here on Earth.
Any subject, any ability and any thought has already been covered, painted, drawn, sculpted, molded, thought about , addressed, considered and practiced ,etc etc in the art world.
It is the presentation that technique of which it is presented and the Artists own love and desire of that Art that makes it NEW even if it is only to them. That is true ART and no school, professor, Institution or instructor can teach that passion to anyone, that is a possession only the Individual Artist can obtain on their own.
That young one is what my "playlist" you berated represents, people who just love doing what they do and NOTHING else matters , especially from some mindless ideology that thinks that Art is anything else but love and passion and NO professor will ever be able to teach that to anyone, that is self gained and is either IN you or it is not, it is just that simple and again
Art School / Institution taught = Artist
Art self taught - Artist
The only differences is the passion and love that either stands or rises in the Artist themselves
Again
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I really like the looseness, you're being too hard on yourself. This is professional work, speaking as a guy that's worked as an artist for 30 years ;)
It turned out so pretty especially the flowers
I learn the most from other artist and I want to maybe get on skillshare because I hear really good things from that. And art books helps me to. I don’t think I can make art my job. Nor writing. So I can’t afford to spent a “real” education on it.
I love it I am love soap so pretty
It's beautiful
I am 12 and when i see someone younger than me draw masterpieces many of them are on TH-cam i feel like i am not trying hard enough this is not my best....and i think i get really hard on myself and sometimes i just stop drawing for some days...
Tbh, Draftsmen podcast and many other old masters never encouraged others to go to art school, some even hated it. I feel like, you should have someone you look up to or someone who can teach you, but not in the art school kind of sense? Like, it's good to learn from others but art school is kinda vague, they differ a lot
And fine academy is VERY expensive but probably totally worth it
BUT you can learn so much in nature, seriously, no need to worry about it too much, it's hard definetly
wow, que hersomo dibujo, me encantaria ser como vos
Could you tell us how or what videos did u use to learn those techniques, honestly I don't know how to search for them because I don't know how are they called
Wow how cool is this?!
All Artists Are Self Taught.
WOW!!!