I know its the point of the video and I enjoy this premise, but it is amusing how you walk a longer journey in Warrington than you would have had to if you just walked from high level to low level in Liverpool
Maybe this could become a series? Lime Street - Preston - Ormskirk - Lime Street might make a nice trip, as would Lime Street - Wigan - Southport - Lime Street.
I would think taking the wirral line to Bidston, then the Wrexham train, to Shotton. The North Wales coast line to Chester, and finally Chester to Liverpool Lime Street, on the Merseyrail electric train again.
Brilliant video nick. You should do Newark Castle to Newark Northgate as it's only a 10 minute walk between them and about 2 journey all around via Peterborough
You should do Burscough Junction to Burscough Bridge. It’s about a 15 minute walk but would take ridiculously long on train. Two ways to go, via Southport and Sandhills or Wigan and Preston. But no walking between the wigan stations!
One challenge Nick you could undertake is which is the quickest way to interchange from Lime Street to Liverpool Central Northern Line. Is it through using the Wirral Line to Central and then a myriad of escalators/lifts to the Northern Line or walking on street level. Could be interesting to see which works out quickest as the result maybe closer than you might imagine.
I do that often and always walk it. If you got on a train straight away at Lime St lower level it would probably be quicker but if if you had to wait a few minutes, walking would be quicker. Would have to be best of ten for a definitive result.
As this is one of my frequent journeys, I quickly learned that walking Lim St to Central was the simplest for me, since it avoided steps/escalators. But the reverse journey by train is, of course, too complicated since this is the one way loop that the Wirral Line executes to turn back to The Wirral. So Shanks's Pony it is!
growing up in liverpool in the late 80s early 90s zone tickets where the bomb 55p (80;s) and you could travel all over merseyside with them including buses trains and ferries never thought id be on a train trip that was longer than hunts cross to southport. but then i got older ha ha ha living in warrington now (until i seen these videos) i only thought there was 5 stations in the area keep up the good work nick
Here's a few in Scotland: Paisley Gilmour Street to Paisley Canal - about a 10 minute walk between the two - an advantage is that because it goes through Glasgow Central you can use a break of journey there. Can even get a season ticket for it 🤣. Opportunities for video of the train depots at Corkerhill & Shields Depot. Glasgow Central Low Level to Glasgow Queen Street Low Level - another 10 minute walk, you can switch at Partick or Hyndland to achieve this. Could probably make it even longer doing a high/low combination or both high stations. Falkirk High to Falkirk Grahamston Helensburgh Central to Helensburgh Upper Coatbridge Sunnyside to Coatbridge Central
I made a similar journey once, but going from Lime Street Underground, to the main line station. I had come in from Colwyn Bay, and changed at Chester, to get to a job interview with the National Trust. When I walked back to Airport Parkway I took the mainline to Lime Street, and changed back to the underground, for the Chester train.
Nice video. Did something similarly pointless last weekend in Oslo, running the Ring line of the metro all around from one stop :) From Nationaltheatre to Storgata all around :)
The "This" part of the video was a gem as it made me think of eighties and nineties pop videos Where the singer would start the chorus or refrain with "This"...
There are a couple of stations in Newark on the ECML and Sheffield to Lincoln line. Like 5 mins walk between the 2 stations but hours by train lol. Now try taking the train between the 2 stations in Warrington!
Helensburgh Upper to Helensburgh Central via Caledonian Sleeper, West Coast Main Line, Argyle Line and North Clyde Line (bonus points for extra loop via Edinburgh: Glasgow Central to Edinburgh via Shotts, then Edinburgh to Helensburgh)
Most relatable moment was seeing the TfW train which was absolutely caked in dirt outside. Usually I want to wash my hands after I leave a train, with TfW I want to wash my hands after I board :D
Transport for wales 158 to Llandudno is like rare but I think you should find some abandoned railways in north wales because you are great at explaining these
This video makes me miss Liverpool. Was there over Christmas where I caught an horrible cold and there was a train strike. I was not able to go to Manchester but I was able to go to Chester on the Mersey Train.
Another way to do it is going from like street to Hartford, walking 1 mile and half to greenbank then to Chester where you get the Mersey rail back to line street
An interesting but mega Pointless Journey, which would take several days, is the maximum mileage that could be travelled on the National Rail Network without passing through the same station twice.
awesome pointless journey i really enjoy this series and nice to see a Northern class 331 on the Liverpool to Manchester via Newton Le Willows service keep up the awesome work
You should do Hertford east to Hertford north. About ten minute walk from each station. But by train you you would have to go all the way into London and back out again as they are on two different lines. I may be wrong but you deffo can’t go between the two stations.
5:20 Hate the stair-ramps (stramps?) at Hunts Cross. Either commit to access and build a ramp, or don't do that and just build stairs. Now that lifts have been installed, there's even less reason for the stramps, so it just takes up so much room and makes walking up or down them awkward.
I wonder if it would be quicker to go via Chester. Its about 47 mins via Runcorn (TfW) and a further 43 mins from Chester to Lime St with the Chester connection being every 15 min, thus it can theoretically be done in 105mins (1hr 45)
Good to see my local station Newton-le-Willows on here, you should deffo try and do Wigan North Western to Wigan Wallgate, both are on opposite sides of the road to each other, walkable in about a minute or even less
Come to London... Willesden Junction high level (London Overground) to low level (London Overground, different line, and Bakerloo tube line) would be fun....
A quicker way again was getting a train to Liverpool south parkway on the main line then switch to Merseyrail back to moorfields and change to the Wirral line to lime street
Other ideas for Pointless Journeys by National Rail: Porthmadog to Blaenau Ffestiniog (a half-hour bus ride) the long way round via Shrewsbury and Llandudno Junction Glasgow Central to Queen Street (a 5-minute walk) going via Edinburgh (via Shotts/Carstairs then Falkirk) Southend Victoria to Central (a 5-10 minute walk) going via London (Romford-Upminster) Fort William to Inverness (a 2-hour bus ride) going all the way via Glasgow
Matlock to Buxton - Short bus journey or train via Derby, Sheffield and Stockport ;) New Mills: New Town - Central - 10 minutes walk or train via Manchester. Matlock to Chesterfield - Short bus journey or train via Derby Tamworth Low level to High level via... Birmingham New Street and ... one of stations at WCML ;) Birmingham Moor Street to New Street via Snow Hill and back by Tram :D ...
@@stanley3647 Fort William to Inverness could be a reasonable coach ride (2 hours) or take the extravagantly long way round via Glasgow (7+ hours); likewise, Scarborough to Whitby could be a short bus ride or take the long way round on the train via York and Middlesbrough
You got to come to London and see Liverpool streets new Elizabeth line station it spans two separate stations. Both ironically conected by the circle metropolitan and Hammersmith and city lines. One stop away from eachother. You can take a train trip from one station to another and still not leave the same stations
Warrington Central was to be electrified then be a Merseyrail terminus - scheduled for *1991.* It would behave been possible to travel from Warrington Central to Southport on the Northern Line. Thatcher got into power, hated Liverpool then cut one third of Merseyrail's plans. It has been resurrected now battery hybrid 777 trains are here. Also 777 train from Liverpool via Ellesmere Port to Warrington Bank Quay.
Brilliant video Nick. Northern 156's with Northern seats! That must mean the are going to get rid of all EMR identity on the ones that were with EMR at some point.
If you come to Birmingham there are plenty of ways to get from Birmingham Moor Street to Birmingham New Street apart from the few minutes walk. I am planning to do Moor Street, Stratford on Avon, Leamington Spa, Coventry, Nuneaton, New Street over the next month or so. A couple of years ago I got on a train to Birmingham Snow Hill but there was some problem on the line and although the guard announced ticket acceptance on the buses, I ran down the stairs at Smethwick Galton Bridge station and got a train into Birmingham New Street and a tram to the Town Hall and was only 4 minutes late for my meeting.
Not every train stops at hunts cross unfortunately so have to get off at the next stop , Liverpool south parkway which is a bit of a walk to the Mersey rail connection.
Nice one! Given that Stadler trains are slowly taking over the country, would be intriguing to see how far you could go on just that one manufacturer's stock \m/
That's an inversion of a challenge I set myself recently; trying to travel on trains by as many manufacturers, and as many operators, as possible in a week. Glad I'm not the only one who comes up with stuff like this.
I went looking for other pointless journeys and found two in West Yorkshire Pontefract Baghill - Pontefract Monkhill/Tadshelf South Elmsall - Moorthorpe It's possible to do both on the same day, but only if you start at 8am
Good video found it well funny with how long it took do you reckon you could do Canterbury east to Canterbury west it’s around a 20 min walk and they both aren’t connected by train
A great pointless journey would be Warrington Central to Warrington Bank Quay via Hunts Cross, Moorfields, Liverpool Lime Str and Newton le Willows. Oh, hang on.
You could of done Liverpool Lime Street Upper level to Ellesmere Port via Northern which is a train that shows twice a day. Then from Ellesmere port to Liverpool Lime Street Lower level
How many train tickets did you need to do this? In 10 days time I will be doing my own Pointless journey (of sorts). Visiting every Vienna U Bahn station in a single day
When the Wirral Loop was built why didn't they put a direct escalator link to the Low Level platforms from the main-line concourse? Making passengers cross the street is barmy!
One possible pointless journey is London Victoria to London Victoria, plenty of lines that go in different directions that also come together, same can be done with waterloo
First I thought the concept was changing levels in a station by using different trains on same level platforms and therefore not having to use stairs. Nevertheless enjoyed the video ;)
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I know its the point of the video and I enjoy this premise, but it is amusing how you walk a longer journey in Warrington than you would have had to if you just walked from high level to low level in Liverpool
Pointless Journeys is an excellent concept you’ve established yourself doing and should be yours. Stick at it!
Great video, but you could've done that so much easier by just getting the train to Chester and Merseyrail from there
Maybe this could become a series? Lime Street - Preston - Ormskirk - Lime Street might make a nice trip, as would Lime Street - Wigan - Southport - Lime Street.
I would think taking the wirral line to Bidston, then the Wrexham train, to Shotton. The North Wales coast line to Chester, and finally Chester to Liverpool Lime Street, on the Merseyrail electric train again.
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Limestreet to south parkway- Merseyrail south parkway to limestreet
Brilliant video nick. You should do Newark Castle to Newark Northgate as it's only a 10 minute walk between them and about 2 journey all around via Peterborough
May or may not be on my list!
Guilty of taxi'ing between the two stations, right pain in the bum when travelling from Lincoln to connect with the ECML.
@@NickBadley Extend Blackpool trams to Preston Station NOW🎉
@@NickBadley I would do Newark to Notts, work your way to Doncaster and then a train from there. But it's an idea
Newark Northgate to Grantham to Nottingham to Newark Castle
You should do Burscough Junction to Burscough Bridge. It’s about a 15 minute walk but would take ridiculously long on train. Two ways to go, via Southport and Sandhills or Wigan and Preston. But no walking between the wigan stations!
One challenge Nick you could undertake is which is the quickest way to interchange from Lime Street to Liverpool Central Northern Line. Is it through using the Wirral Line to Central and then a myriad of escalators/lifts to the Northern Line or walking on street level. Could be interesting to see which works out quickest as the result maybe closer than you might imagine.
Wonder whether Jen on the Move would be up for the race?
I do that often and always walk it. If you got on a train straight away at Lime St lower level it would probably be quicker but if if you had to wait a few minutes, walking would be quicker. Would have to be best of ten for a definitive result.
As this is one of my frequent journeys, I quickly learned that walking Lim St to Central was the simplest for me, since it avoided steps/escalators. But the reverse journey by train is, of course, too complicated since this is the one way loop that the Wirral Line executes to turn back to The Wirral. So Shanks's Pony it is!
It needs a travelator in a tunnel between the two stations. Not fun walking between the two in winter with suit cases.
5:50 “this“ just legendary
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Glasgow Q st high level to low level could be a twin video to this one.. a good video Nick keep it up!
There's quite a few permutations, via Liverpool South Parkway, Southport, Chester 😊
growing up in liverpool in the late 80s early 90s zone tickets where the bomb
55p (80;s) and you could travel all over merseyside with them including buses trains and ferries
never thought id be on a train trip that was longer than hunts cross to southport.
but then i got older ha ha ha
living in warrington now (until i seen these videos) i only thought there was 5 stations in the area
keep up the good work nick
Here's a few in Scotland:
Paisley Gilmour Street to Paisley Canal - about a 10 minute walk between the two - an advantage is that because it goes through Glasgow Central you can use a break of journey there. Can even get a season ticket for it 🤣. Opportunities for video of the train depots at Corkerhill & Shields Depot.
Glasgow Central Low Level to Glasgow Queen Street Low Level - another 10 minute walk, you can switch at Partick or Hyndland to achieve this. Could probably make it even longer doing a high/low combination or both high stations.
Falkirk High to Falkirk Grahamston
Helensburgh Central to Helensburgh Upper
Coatbridge Sunnyside to Coatbridge Central
Wait.. I've actually done this exact journey before 🤣
Maybe it isn't so pointless after all! Great video nick :)
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I made a similar journey once, but going from Lime Street Underground, to the main line station. I had come in from Colwyn Bay, and changed at Chester, to get to a job interview with the National Trust. When I walked back to Airport Parkway I took the mainline to Lime Street, and changed back to the underground, for the Chester train.
No idea if it'd be interesting but would love to see my home town featured. Wigan Wallgate to Wigan North Western
5:48 I died from laughter at this scene 🤣
Nice video. Did something similarly pointless last weekend in Oslo, running the Ring line of the metro all around from one stop :) From Nationaltheatre to Storgata all around :)
That freight train at 3:30 at WBQ always makes me laugh. Someone has tagged on one of the hoppers "They see me rollin', we freighting' "
The "This" part of the video
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as it made me think of eighties and nineties
pop videos
Where the singer would start the chorus or refrain
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There are a couple of stations in Newark on the ECML and Sheffield to Lincoln line. Like 5 mins walk between the 2 stations but hours by train lol. Now try taking the train between the 2 stations in Warrington!
A difficult one, Manors T&W metro to Manors national rail! Try that journey. Also, why not do Warrington Bank Quay to Warrington Central?!
Helensburgh Upper to Helensburgh Central via Caledonian Sleeper, West Coast Main Line, Argyle Line and North Clyde Line (bonus points for extra loop via Edinburgh: Glasgow Central to Edinburgh via Shotts, then Edinburgh to Helensburgh)
Most relatable moment was seeing the TfW train which was absolutely caked in dirt outside. Usually I want to wash my hands after I leave a train, with TfW I want to wash my hands after I board :D
Transport for wales 158 to Llandudno is like rare but I think you should find some abandoned railways in north wales because you are great at explaining these
This video makes me miss Liverpool. Was there over Christmas where I caught an horrible cold and there was a train strike. I was not able to go to Manchester but I was able to go to Chester on the Mersey Train.
Another way to do it is going from like street to Hartford, walking 1 mile and half to greenbank then to Chester where you get the Mersey rail back to line street
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An interesting but mega Pointless Journey, which would take several days, is the maximum mileage that could be travelled on the National Rail Network without passing through the same station twice.
Might be fun to try this via Chester with the Halton Curve open. Would be non-pointless for disabled passengers when the lift breaks down again.
You could do oulton broad north to oulton broad south, 15 minutes walk, 40 mins via lowestoft or 3 hours 40 mins via Norwich and Ipswich...
Wouldnt it been a better journey from lime st (HL) to Chester for a short walk to the Mersey rail platform for a train to Lime street ( LL) .... 🤷♀️
awesome pointless journey i really enjoy this series and nice to see a Northern class 331 on the Liverpool to Manchester via Newton Le Willows service keep up the awesome work
You should do Hertford east to Hertford north. About ten minute walk from each station. But by train you you would have to go all the way into London and back out again as they are on two different lines. I may be wrong but you deffo can’t go between the two stations.
Options are change at Broxbourne, Cambridge, Stevenage
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Tottenham Hale (to LU), Finsbury Park
Or
Liverpool St, walk (or LU) to Moorgate
5:20 Hate the stair-ramps (stramps?) at Hunts Cross. Either commit to access and build a ramp, or don't do that and just build stairs. Now that lifts have been installed, there's even less reason for the stramps, so it just takes up so much room and makes walking up or down them awkward.
I wonder if it would be quicker to go via Chester. Its about 47 mins via Runcorn (TfW) and a further 43 mins from Chester to Lime St with the Chester connection being every 15 min, thus it can theoretically be done in 105mins (1hr 45)
Have you considered doing Liverpool lime Street High level to Chester then Merseyrail from Chester to lime Street Lower level? Lovely video.
Good to see my local station Newton-le-Willows on here, you should deffo try and do Wigan North Western to Wigan Wallgate, both are on opposite sides of the road to each other, walkable in about a minute or even less
Come to London... Willesden Junction high level (London Overground) to low level (London Overground, different line, and Bakerloo tube line) would be fun....
Or Stratford to Stratford would be fun....
A quicker way again was getting a train to Liverpool south parkway on the main line then switch to Merseyrail back to moorfields and change to the Wirral line to lime street
Great using MerseyRail when those tossers on the top are on strike though, and cheaper and more regular.
I once lost my way from Warrington Central to Bank Quay, teach me to misread the maps on my mobile phone.
Other ideas for Pointless Journeys by National Rail:
Porthmadog to Blaenau Ffestiniog (a half-hour bus ride) the long way round via Shrewsbury and Llandudno Junction
Glasgow Central to Queen Street (a 5-minute walk) going via Edinburgh (via Shotts/Carstairs then Falkirk)
Southend Victoria to Central (a 5-10 minute walk) going via London (Romford-Upminster)
Fort William to Inverness (a 2-hour bus ride) going all the way via Glasgow
Catford To Catford Bridge ?
I would try Tyndrum Upper and Lower.
Glasgow C/QS can be done going via Partick..
Matlock to Buxton - Short bus journey or train via Derby, Sheffield and Stockport ;)
New Mills: New Town - Central - 10 minutes walk or train via Manchester.
Matlock to Chesterfield - Short bus journey or train via Derby
Tamworth Low level to High level via... Birmingham New Street and ... one of stations at WCML ;)
Birmingham Moor Street to New Street via Snow Hill and back by Tram :D
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@@stanley3647 Fort William to Inverness could be a reasonable coach ride (2 hours) or take the extravagantly long way round via Glasgow (7+ hours); likewise, Scarborough to Whitby could be a short bus ride or take the long way round on the train via York and Middlesbrough
You got to come to London and see Liverpool streets new Elizabeth line station it spans two separate stations. Both ironically conected by the circle metropolitan and Hammersmith and city lines. One stop away from eachother. You can take a train trip from one station to another and still not leave the same stations
Warrington Central was to be electrified then be a Merseyrail terminus - scheduled for *1991.* It would behave been possible to travel from Warrington Central to Southport on the Northern Line. Thatcher got into power, hated Liverpool then cut one third of Merseyrail's plans. It has been resurrected now battery hybrid 777 trains are here. Also 777 train from Liverpool via Ellesmere Port to Warrington Bank Quay.
Hi Nick that was another great video and I really enjoyed the journey you made on the different trains.
Gainsborough town to Gainsborough central can only be done on a Saturday
Brilliant video Nick. Northern 156's with Northern seats! That must mean the are going to get rid of all EMR identity on the ones that were with EMR at some point.
Extend Blackpool trams to Preston Station NOW🎉
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If you come to Birmingham there are plenty of ways to get from Birmingham Moor Street to Birmingham New Street apart from the few minutes walk. I am planning to do Moor Street, Stratford on Avon, Leamington Spa, Coventry, Nuneaton, New Street over the next month or so. A couple of years ago I got on a train to Birmingham Snow Hill but there was some problem on the line and although the guard announced ticket acceptance on the buses, I ran down the stairs at Smethwick Galton Bridge station and got a train into Birmingham New Street and a tram to the Town Hall and was only 4 minutes late for my meeting.
Need to buy a gimbal my son....bit Shakey Stevens ☺️👍....still made me laugh 😄
These journeys are so fun! Where I live we don’t have that much rail, I got excited when I found out we are getting electric buses next year 😂
A different method is to get the Transport for Wales train to Chester, then change for merseyrail.
Wigan North Western to Wigan Wallgate might be a good one. You might bump into GLovesTrains too.
Change at Hindley
There’s the potential for Pontefract Monkhill to Pontefract Baghill via Leeds and either York or Sheffield depending on which way you go.
Not every train stops at hunts cross unfortunately so have to get off at the next stop , Liverpool south parkway which is a bit of a walk to the Mersey rail connection.
What a great idea for a video you have just got your self a new subscriber
Really enjoyed that Nick, great video.
Nice one! Given that Stadler trains are slowly taking over the country, would be intriguing to see how far you could go on just that one manufacturer's stock \m/
That's an inversion of a challenge I set myself recently; trying to travel on trains by as many manufacturers, and as many operators, as possible in a week.
Glad I'm not the only one who comes up with stuff like this.
Brilliant video, hope you used a saveaway?
You should try do Liverpool south parkway. That has two different platforms
Very intresting and well made,Just found your channel and subsrcribed, best wieshes forn Brazil!
Welcome!
It'd suggest Blackpool North to Blackpool South (without Trams), but that would then involve going to Blackpool....
I went looking for other pointless journeys and found two in West Yorkshire
Pontefract Baghill - Pontefract Monkhill/Tadshelf
South Elmsall - Moorthorpe
It's possible to do both on the same day, but only if you start at 8am
Monument to Monument on the Tyne and Wear Metro, you can do it using one train too.
Good video found it well funny with how long it took do you reckon you could do Canterbury east to Canterbury west it’s around a 20 min walk and they both aren’t connected by train
A great pointless journey would be Warrington Central to Warrington Bank Quay via Hunts Cross, Moorfields, Liverpool Lime Str and Newton le Willows.
Oh, hang on.
You could of done Liverpool Lime Street Upper level to Ellesmere Port via Northern which is a train that shows twice a day. Then from Ellesmere port to Liverpool Lime Street Lower level
And who knew that a trip from Lime Street to Lime Street would include a bilingual train display on TfW?
Swansea to Swansea via Shrewsbury and Cardiff . . . but life's too short!
Another enjoyable video. Tamworth next please.
You should do Glasgow Central to Glasgow Queen Street
How about kings cross to st Pancras?
Also whilst down there you can do waterloo to waterloo east
Thanks!
Thank you! :)
Have you done Grimsby to Hull by train ? There is no rail line over the Humber Bridge, so you have to go all the way via Doncaster
How about Hessle to Barton?
You should have done Liverpool Lime Street to Newton-le-willows then Newton-le-willows to Chester then Chester to Liverpool lime Street lower level
great video!
That's 3 half hours out of Liverpool good use of time
Should do Chester via Halton curve and loop back to LS that way
Another way to do it with less walking but might take longer: Lime Street - Chester via Runcorn - Lime Street
kool vid
It’s so silly how we have to walk 20min between stations in Warrington, how in the 21st century do we not have a train connecting both
Need three merseyrail trains in one station , program the PIS as This , That and The Other
You could have just walked to the lift puts you on the underground straight to the Wirral line. Takes 1 minute 👌🏻
You could've gone on TfW from Lime St to Chester then Merseyrail to Lime St low level
Great video, do like Newton-le-Willows station
Windsor Central to Windsor Riverside
When it's built again so Bank quay high to low only when it's built
How many train tickets did you need to do this?
In 10 days time I will be doing my own Pointless journey (of sorts). Visiting every Vienna U Bahn station in a single day
Wouldn't the Transport for Wales Service from lime street to Chester and then Merseyrail at Chester to Liverpool lime street have been easier?
5:50 best part.
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When the Wirral Loop was built why didn't they put a direct escalator link to the Low Level platforms from the main-line concourse? Making passengers cross the street is barmy!
Another entertaining video 🙂
1:14 and 1:21 One up for the Whiston army!
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Kinda mad how you see a place where you’ve been irl in a yt video 2 years later
One possible pointless journey is London Victoria to London Victoria, plenty of lines that go in different directions that also come together, same can be done with waterloo
First I thought the concept was changing levels in a station by using different trains on same level platforms and therefore not having to use stairs.
Nevertheless enjoyed the video ;)
Very pointless but a cool journey at the same time. Great video Nick!
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Also get a ride on the 507s and 508s before they're gone
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What about Rice Lane to Walton? (1 min walk but different lines)
just wow