Screamin' Eagle's tallest drop is actually its 3rd drop at 92 feet, the first drop is only 88 feet. So from the top of the 1st drop to the bottom of the 3rd drop is roughly 120ish feet and thats not even the lowest point of the ride. So 62mph is pretty accurate. As a former ride op, I've gotten to know this ride quite well, as well as the rest of the park.
Wow! Okay, I stand corrected. I was just about to type in how that speed is not possible with the drop height, but I did not realize there was such an elevation change. Thanks for clearing that up. I knew Screamin Eagle was supposedly the fastest coaster in the world for a couple of years, so I am relieved that the top speed was not a lie.
I've checked the access gates for Eagle's danger zones many times, it is quite the jog, very hilly and really exhausting. Also, I've seen the ride overspeed a few times, so it might've gone faster than 62mph at times.
Mamba's last break station before the last section of humps has been disabled in recent years, making the last part of the coster considerably faster, with way more airtime than any coster I've been on in a while.
I love Missouri SFSL is my home park American Thunder is my favorite ride in the park followed by Screaming Eagle, and the eagle hasn't hit 62 mph in about 20 years
Six Flags STL is dying for a face lift! While I'm glad we finally have a coaster for families, the recent flat rides just haven't really hit the mark for me. It's obvious we are in dire need of a new real coaster, but fixing what already exists would go a long way
What?? You’re getting all of that good flat rides that are seen at the other parks in the chain. Catwomen is so good but the wait is terrible! They are due for a good coaster, something needs to be fixed with the Boss.
I'm glad to see that Wildfire is still holding up in the rankings. It was the coaster my friends talked me into riding at 14. It made me feel like I could fly. I'd ridden Fire in the Hole and Thunderation before, but Wildfire was the one that made me love rollercoasters. Regarding Mr. Freeze, my sister and I feel like it goes slightly slower in Saint Louis than Over Texas and so you get more hangtime on the tophat. I don't know if anyone else has noticed that.
Maybe not the really big ones (California would probably strain him to the breaking point), but I can see him doing states with around 20, give or take.
The patriot zero g roll is so good! One of the best ever made. Hope they can fix boss up, it’s brutal! Scremain eagle is holding up strong for its age!
I grew up in STL, MO and have been to all three parks at least once each back in my high school days, but I was a bit intimidated by the big coasters and don't actually remember riding anything outside of my go-to's at SFSTL. Gotta schedule a weeklong run-through of my home state at some point now that I'm much more of a coaster enthusiast.
I was surprised too when you said that Wildfire is the best paced coaster in Missouri. Sure,Ii expected it to be quite high up on the pacing list, but I would have expected a certain RMC close by to outrank it in pacing, as Outlaw Run *feels* faster paced. My mental prediction was that they would be close, but in reverse order. Maybe it is because B&Ms just look so different with their long and wide trains going through the elements compared to the tighter turns and bends with RMC. I don't know. But I like both.
For Mamba did you use a video from before or after they reprogrammed it? Just curious cause it used to crawl after the mid course but ever since the fixed it a few years ago the trains fly over those final hills. It would probably make a difference in the numbers.
For Screamin' Eagle, a freefall from 92' would get you to about 52 MPH. So if you were going 10 MPH at the drop and it was perfectly efficient, you could theoretically get to 62 MPH. Most likely it would need to be somewhere around 15 MPH pre-drop to hit 62.
The 1st drop is actually 88 feet and the 3rd drop is 92 feet, and stands roughly 20-30 feet lower than the first drop, so the difference in height between the top of the 1st and bottom of the 3rd drop would be ~110-120ish feet
Love this video! I was just at all three parks last summer when I did a MO theme park road trip and that's what makes this video so fun for me. The Boss was my LEAST favorite ride (way too rough for me), Time Traveler is my new #1 coaster (so much fun), we didn't get to ride Prowler because they were waiting on a part, I loved the atmosphere and theming for SDC and I actually enjoyed all of the coasters here, and SF St. Louis definitely needs some TLC and another big coaster. All of them are fun parks overall and I definitely want to go back to SDC and Worlds of Fun someday! =)
One of my first coaster trips after college (1993) was to Six Flags St. Louis. At the time, there were THREE coasters in the park: Screamin Eagle, River King Mine Train, and Ninja! Michigan's Adventure and Great Escape would scoff at that lineup! And that was at the third and last of the original Six Flags parks! Missouri and Mid America deserved better. I have envisioned a B&M hyper in the 160-180' range that uses the defunct Ninja's station 😁. It could be an out and back that runs north toward the Screamin Eagle. The terrain rises about 70 feet at the rear of the park. The ride could maintain its speed by dropping down the grade as it returned to the station (like a fan favorite at Holiday World). In the Fall, they could have a coaster event and disable the midcourse brakes for one night; It would be a borderline top-ten ride!!! But it's SFSL, so I am selling that idea!
Interesting concept. I suspect there are a number of states that are large enough to have a decent collection of coasters but not so large they would become overwhelming to cover. I think Indiana (Holiday World, Indiana Beach) would be a good state for this format. Wisconsin (Mt. Olympus, Bay Beach), Iowa (Adventureland, Lost Island), and Minnesota (Valleyfair, Nickelodeon Universe) also. Ohio might be a bit much, plus I think you've already covered both the parks in that state in their own videos. I've also seen some people calling for Pennsylvania to be done, but that might also be a bit much, since there are five sizeable parks (Kennywood, Waldameer, Knoebels, Hersheypark, Dorney Park).
The other great thing about Missouri is that fireworks are fully legal there too. I'd love to go to the Fireworks Superstore that's in Hannibal some day. It's a Costco size warehouse, over 100,000 square feet, of every different kind of firework you can think of. 🧨
Have you done "by the numbers" in other states? Pennsylvania? I think you did Hershey on its own, but it would be interesting with Kennywood, Knoebels, and Dorney thrown in. Maybe a top 20?
I wish ptc would make a new restraint. I love the buzz bars but im not a fan of the split seat split bar. They should also create moden trains for old coasters. Maybe install some kind of suspension to smooth out bumps on rough coasters.
Im wondering which coasters would top the avg rankings (ride time, height, pacing, etc) across the US when compared to all other coasters. Guessing the gigas would be tops- like Fury #1? Millennium Force?
My predictions: Tallest is freeze Fastest is freeze (also) Longest is prowler Longest in time is prowler (also) Pacing is freeze (also) Average best outlaw run
Out of all the wooden coasters in the States, I just don't understand why they haven't done an RMC conversion on the Boss. RMC could turn the Boss into a masterpiece.
Could you do a by the numbers video of the abandon hard rock park the Ferris wheel lift hill would have been in my top 10 bucket coasters if it was still open
@@AirtimeThrills I imagine it would take some digging around to find decent on-ride footage of those coasters. If you decide to pursue these, good luck.
@@Brandon-qd2lb yes ever since they took out the helix at the end it just has to much speed going into the double up and your body is just “discombobulated”
As an operator of Wildfire at SDC, according to the operator panel, the cycle time (top of lift to brakes) is 43-45 seconds.
Wow! You’ve been releasing quite a few videos as of late. Thank You! I’m a huge fan.
@@philipnauman838 thanks for watching!
Screamin' Eagle's tallest drop is actually its 3rd drop at 92 feet, the first drop is only 88 feet. So from the top of the 1st drop to the bottom of the 3rd drop is roughly 120ish feet and thats not even the lowest point of the ride. So 62mph is pretty accurate. As a former ride op, I've gotten to know this ride quite well, as well as the rest of the park.
interesting, would have never pegged the 3rd drop as it's highest
Wow! Okay, I stand corrected. I was just about to type in how that speed is not possible with the drop height, but I did not realize there was such an elevation change. Thanks for clearing that up. I knew Screamin Eagle was supposedly the fastest coaster in the world for a couple of years, so I am relieved that the top speed was not a lie.
I've checked the access gates for Eagle's danger zones many times, it is quite the jog, very hilly and really exhausting. Also, I've seen the ride overspeed a few times, so it might've gone faster than 62mph at times.
A video with worlds of fun and sdc and a 2nd snow day in a row, this is the best day of my life
Mamba's last break station before the last section of humps has been disabled in recent years, making the last part of the coster considerably faster, with way more airtime than any coster I've been on in a while.
Sdc is my home park and time traveler is my fav! I plan to go to both other parks this year
I love Missouri SFSL is my home park American Thunder is my favorite ride in the park followed by Screaming Eagle, and the eagle hasn't hit 62 mph in about 20 years
Six Flags STL is dying for a face lift! While I'm glad we finally have a coaster for families, the recent flat rides just haven't really hit the mark for me. It's obvious we are in dire need of a new real coaster, but fixing what already exists would go a long way
What?? You’re getting all of that good flat rides that are seen at the other parks in the chain. Catwomen is so good but the wait is terrible! They are due for a good coaster, something needs to be fixed with the Boss.
@@Brandon-qd2lbcouple of the wooden coasters are getting that sweet sweet retrack treatment in the offseason.
Same here, SFSL needs SOMETHING notable, the flats won't cut it to make this a good park
Great video! It was fun learning about these coasters! I enjoyed watching this!
I'm glad to see that Wildfire is still holding up in the rankings. It was the coaster my friends talked me into riding at 14. It made me feel like I could fly. I'd ridden Fire in the Hole and Thunderation before, but Wildfire was the one that made me love rollercoasters.
Regarding Mr. Freeze, my sister and I feel like it goes slightly slower in Saint Louis than Over Texas and so you get more hangtime on the tophat. I don't know if anyone else has noticed that.
Interesting!! Never knew that, if I ever make it to Over Texas I will definitely see for myself!
I now expect you to do every major state now 😵💫
Maybe not the really big ones (California would probably strain him to the breaking point), but I can see him doing states with around 20, give or take.
You're almost to 100K brother, lets goo 👏👏
The patriot zero g roll is so good! One of the best ever made. Hope they can fix boss up, it’s brutal! Scremain eagle is holding up strong for its age!
YES I AM FROM MISSOURI AND I WANTED THIS SO BAD THANK YOU!!!
I grew up in STL, MO and have been to all three parks at least once each back in my high school days, but I was a bit intimidated by the big coasters and don't actually remember riding anything outside of my go-to's at SFSTL. Gotta schedule a weeklong run-through of my home state at some point now that I'm much more of a coaster enthusiast.
I was surprised too when you said that Wildfire is the best paced coaster in Missouri. Sure,Ii expected it to be quite high up on the pacing list, but I would have expected a certain RMC close by to outrank it in pacing, as Outlaw Run *feels* faster paced. My mental prediction was that they would be close, but in reverse order.
Maybe it is because B&Ms just look so different with their long and wide trains going through the elements compared to the tighter turns and bends with RMC. I don't know. But I like both.
For Mamba did you use a video from before or after they reprogrammed it? Just curious cause it used to crawl after the mid course but ever since the fixed it a few years ago the trains fly over those final hills. It would probably make a difference in the numbers.
It’s definitely an old one I’ve clocked new Mamba at 63-66 seconds
Thanks for the video on Missouri. Now for the 3 parks in Texas. Or 4 if you want to include Wonderland
Missouri is honestly a really good coaster state
Great video man keep up the great work🎉
I think this is the first video where I've ridden more than 1 or 2 coasters. 😂
Could you also add what year the coasters opened when you introduce them? Just next to the name. Would be a nice touch
For Screamin' Eagle, a freefall from 92' would get you to about 52 MPH. So if you were going 10 MPH at the drop and it was perfectly efficient, you could theoretically get to 62 MPH. Most likely it would need to be somewhere around 15 MPH pre-drop to hit 62.
It hits its top speed on the third hill
The 1st drop is actually 88 feet and the 3rd drop is 92 feet, and stands roughly 20-30 feet lower than the first drop, so the difference in height between the top of the 1st and bottom of the 3rd drop would be ~110-120ish feet
Now you need to do this for every state if possible and make a series out of it
Especially Pennsylvania
Love this video! I was just at all three parks last summer when I did a MO theme park road trip and that's what makes this video so fun for me. The Boss was my LEAST favorite ride (way too rough for me), Time Traveler is my new #1 coaster (so much fun), we didn't get to ride Prowler because they were waiting on a part, I loved the atmosphere and theming for SDC and I actually enjoyed all of the coasters here, and SF St. Louis definitely needs some TLC and another big coaster. All of them are fun parks overall and I definitely want to go back to SDC and Worlds of Fun someday! =)
One of my first coaster trips after college (1993) was to Six Flags St. Louis. At the time, there were THREE coasters in the park: Screamin Eagle, River King Mine Train, and Ninja! Michigan's Adventure and Great Escape would scoff at that lineup! And that was at the third and last of the original Six Flags parks! Missouri and Mid America deserved better.
I have envisioned a B&M hyper in the 160-180' range that uses the defunct Ninja's station 😁. It could be an out and back that runs north toward the Screamin Eagle. The terrain rises about 70 feet at the rear of the park. The ride could maintain its speed by dropping down the grade as it returned to the station (like a fan favorite at Holiday World). In the Fall, they could have a coaster event and disable the midcourse brakes for one night; It would be a borderline top-ten ride!!! But it's SFSL, so I am selling that idea!
Interesting concept. I suspect there are a number of states that are large enough to have a decent collection of coasters but not so large they would become overwhelming to cover. I think Indiana (Holiday World, Indiana Beach) would be a good state for this format. Wisconsin (Mt. Olympus, Bay Beach), Iowa (Adventureland, Lost Island), and Minnesota (Valleyfair, Nickelodeon Universe) also. Ohio might be a bit much, plus I think you've already covered both the parks in that state in their own videos. I've also seen some people calling for Pennsylvania to be done, but that might also be a bit much, since there are five sizeable parks (Kennywood, Waldameer, Knoebels, Hersheypark, Dorney Park).
I lived in KC for 25 years. Been to worlds of fun dozens of times, SDC at least 5 times, never made it to Six Flags St. Louis.
STL
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I wonder how much longer The Boss was when it still had the helix near the end.
Based on the wayback machine, Boss used to be listed with 5051 ft, so about 400 more than now
I'm actually kind of surprised a Family Gravity coaster is taller than a Wacky Worm.
I love this series.
The other great thing about Missouri is that fireworks are fully legal there too. I'd love to go to the Fireworks Superstore that's in Hannibal some day. It's a Costco size warehouse, over 100,000 square feet, of every different kind of firework you can think of. 🧨
You should do Pennsylvanias wiodies by the numbers(it has like 20 woodies)
Is Missouri the only state with a Herschend six flags and cedar fair park? Or is there another state with the trifecta
2 Six Flags parks.
0 Cedar Fair.
Oh yeah here we go SFSTL is my home park
Actually I believe Time Traveler hits 100ft on the final overbank after the second launch
Have you done "by the numbers" in other states? Pennsylvania? I think you did Hershey on its own, but it would be interesting with Kennywood, Knoebels, and Dorney thrown in. Maybe a top 20?
Not yet but some states with smaller parks are contenders, NY, IN, IA
We 💙 Airtime Thrills
Going on the Carnival Mardi Gras next week. Hopefully I can get on Bolt.
I really want to go to sliver dollar city
Do it if you can. One of the best parks in the country.
If this series ever ends, the grand finale should be every coaster in California by the numbers
Thatd be a beast
Do New York next!
This video makes my inner Rain Man VERY happy. 😊
❤ numbers
Man I really need to plan a trip to Missouri this year. It’s either there or I’m going to Florida to hit up the seaworld and fun spot parks.
Bro this is so weird I just started a Missouri park today (in planetco 2)
I wish ptc would make a new restraint. I love the buzz bars but im not a fan of the split seat split bar. They should also create moden trains for old coasters. Maybe install some kind of suspension to smooth out bumps on rough coasters.
yeah the PTC lapbar is one of my least favorite
Im wondering which coasters would top the avg rankings (ride time, height, pacing, etc) across the US when compared to all other coasters. Guessing the gigas would be tops- like Fury #1? Millennium Force?
Nice! Do it for my state too! Pennsylvania!
Next, you should do the 15 best songs and coasters of the 2010s.
My predictions:
Tallest is freeze
Fastest is freeze (also)
Longest is prowler
Longest in time is prowler (also)
Pacing is freeze (also)
Average best outlaw run
Actually wild thing will be longest instead of prowler in both length and time
Boss has to be the most aggressive wooden coaster ever.
The nerd in me loves these videos. Also, April Fools video idea…Vekoma Boomerangs by the numbers. Just 15 boomerangs with identical stats 😂
Hahaha thats hilarious
Out of all the wooden coasters in the States, I just don't understand why they haven't done an RMC conversion on the Boss. RMC could turn the Boss into a masterpiece.
Could you do a by the numbers video of the abandon hard rock park the Ferris wheel lift hill would have been in my top 10 bucket coasters if it was still open
Springfield gang where ya at!
I like how i watch American Roller coaster Stats even tho im probally never gonna end up in Missouri but i gotta cuz its airtime thrills
Next vid, every roller coaster ranked by prime ride time
Video suggestion: Fixing every coaster at Worlds of Fun
You should do Georgia Next
There’s only one real park in Georgia. Fun Spot and Wild Adventures don’t really count
Between Wild Adventures, Fun Spot and Lake Winnie there is enough to cover with out Over Georgia being the only thing talked about.
How would you feel if a small goblin ran through your room right now
15:15 - This is outdated, As of 2023 the midcourse brake run for mamba is non-existent. So the entire end camelbacks are hardcore airtime
Kind of surprised that Boss has more prime ride time than Mamba.
According to the pythagorean theorem, just go to Silver Dollar City.
WoF is the Busch Gardens of Cedar Fair/Six Flags. Wish it would see a fraction of the investment.
Airtime Thrills would you please create a new video called Six Flags AstroWorld and Six Flags New Orleans By The Numbers for goodness sake owner
Maybe a defunct six flags video would be good. Astroworld, New Orleans, Geauga Lake
@@AirtimeThrills I imagine it would take some digging around to find decent on-ride footage of those coasters. If you decide to pursue these, good luck.
Missourable
5 min fam
is dolly wood in missouri
That's in Tennessee
i think the term is patrons not patreons but i might be wrong
Well the site is called Patreon so, thats where I'm getting that from
@@AirtimeThrillsI get that, but it is Patrons…. Love your channel, my wife and I have been fans for years!
The Boss the best coaster in the entire six flags chain All Hail!
RMC BOSS
Ghostrider Treatment for Boss
That break run is insane! It’s like a car crash!
@@Brandon-qd2lb yes ever since they took out the helix at the end it just has to much speed going into the double up and your body is just “discombobulated”
Do you like subway? Always asking for a sub
Who doesnt
The most miserable coaster
Which one