I’m right there with you. I can tolerate them for a few minutes, if they’re talking about my team, but the TH-cam crew are my go to’s for anything over 3-4 minutes.
On Nightcap Shannon said 40% of his audience is women. Which is crazy for a big time sports show. He has such a magnetic personality that you just can’t help but tune in.
How anyone enjoys SPORTS YELLING AND INTERRUPTING I’ll never know. It’s everything I hated about drinking in bars without the pleasure of getting drunk.
Jim Rome built the fire that started burning down the way we consumed sports talk, and SAS and Skip dumped rocket fuel on it and completely scorched it beyond recognition.
I don't know that would help FS in the short term (which lets be honest, that's all they care about) but there's no way it could possibly be any worse than what they're doing now!
FACTS. The positivity and sincerity of Rick makes me question the paternity though. Lol. The fact that they share a last name and look alike be damned, they seem like they couldn't be more opposite. Although that might explain why they're estranged. I wouldn't want to call Skip my kin either.
@@blueprint7so Asian people are culture vultures by wearing suits? Are people who make pizzas stealing Italian culture? Anyone outside of America can’t make hamburgers? Stfu if you do something well it does not matter what your race is
The only good thing Fox Sports has going for it right now is First Things First. They need to lean heavily into Brou and the crew because that show is pure gold!
I think the straw that broke the camels back was when Skip went gushing over Brady a bit too much and insulted Shannons greatness as a player. Shannon didn't take it well and asked Skip to apologize, since he thought they were friends and that was uncalled for saying that on air. Skip refused and I think that's where it all went downhill, both with their friendship and the show. Skip is simply incapable of admitting he's wrong or taking a step back.
If you can call petulantly whining about the media while projecting insecurity all in an effort to show how smart he thinks he is "debating" then yes, he has been 'debating' Stephen A for 2 years.
I think Shannon Sharpe got the bad end of it as well. He and SAS don’t mesh well together at all and having two men just yell hot takes that no one cares about all week while making up false narratives dropped his stock too. The only chance you get to see some of the real Shannon anymore is with his Club Shay Shay podcast and his podcast at night with OchoCinco.
But I do think that he needed to move forward. I watched undisputed in its latter time and even before the issues, the show was becoming stale. The repetitive nature of Cowboys, Lebron, Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady burned me out. It was always the same convos. At least now, it felt like more interesting debates were had and pushed through online.
Word. Wanted to say something myself, but the Find-function led me to your comment, so I'll just dogpile. Normally Perna doesn't make these kinds of gaffes, such as confusing predecessor with successor. Maybe some fanboy wants to claim it was done on purpose and Perna's intent was to say Smith was setting himself up as a predecessor to Sharpe, but I'd argue that's not the case.
@@andrewneedham3281 he’s clearly incredibly emotionally charged about this topic, to the point where he’s disingenuously misrepresenting Skip’s Damar Hamlin tweet that anyone with a shred of reading comprehension can see through.
Lol it makes zero sense any way you look at it cuz Uncle Shay is in his twilight years, he’s gotta be older than Stephen A. (He’s not. Stephen A is 56, Shannon 55 but ya get the point)
My favourite talkshow atp is First Things First. The guys there have really good chemistry and seem to have a lot of fun which makes the show just really enjoyable to watch.
Brou can’t push back because him and Bron go waaaaay back. Wildes can’t really push back because Fox is trying so hard to bring him on after he retires. Wildes pushes back a little bit, but it’s subtle enough to where Nick can just railroad it and ignore it.
I don't really mind the biased takes because I do think it makes the debates more fun, especially when they flex/clown on each other (ex. when Wildes does his gentlemen sweep thing with the nuggets, but then Brou and Nick uno reverse him for it after game 7). It makes for good banter and nothing ever gets personal between them (like it did for Skip and Shannon).
I also feel like Nick isn't all that bad anymore. He is for sure still biased, but he can be pretty creative as to how he gets his points across which I find a lot more interesting than Skip who always has the same 3 talking points each time and he does admit to being wrong which I also appreciate.
It's obvious that Shannon has the better personality but i think Skip and Shannon are by far better pair then him and Steven A i think that much is obvious. But Skip can't do it unless he has someone that can match that same ridiculous energy he brings to the show with personality. Shannon will always be entertaining and Skip is just there but them together was the best duo and I don't think that will ever be otherwise
None of these talking heads will match the days of NFL GameDay with Rich Eisen, Michael Irvin, and Deion Sanders. Corner of Prime time was PRIME highlight reels Also mad respect for you to call out Bayless as not actually being a cowboy fan. This is why you're one of the only people I get my news from
I dislike Skip A LOT , but I always felt like people way overreacted to what he was saying in the tweet. Yes, the message was jumbled, and he should have known better as a writer. But look at the two sentences. In one sentence he’s asking how the NFL would be able to ‘postpone’ the game. It’s a fair question. I’ve never seen the NFL continue a game days later like I’ve seen in MLB. Ultimately that wasn’t what the NFL did. In the second sentence, he is pointing out the magnitude of the game, and commenting on how it’s ultimately irrelevant when juxtaposed with Hamlin’s injury. Nothing about those two sentences was offensive, in my opinion. Problem was how Skip wrote the “….which suddenly seems so irrelevant” part. People misread that and got mad.
Yup. I always understood what he was saying in the tweet so I did not expect people to get upset. It wasn’t until the next day that I saw there was backlash. He just worded it badly but I still understood it. I also always knew that Shannon was fired. When I read “Buyout” I knew he got let go and I assumed it was mostly due to the disrespect from the Tom Brady debate and maybe a little to do with his argument at the Lakers game. I was waiting for Shannon or anyone to finally come out and say he didn’t leave, he was fired. But ultimately is was the best thing that could’ve happened for him.
@@mantistoboggan5650 was he? I thought he was just using it to illustrate that the vast majority of comments were negative and it is still up and how it probably hurt Skip’s stock….
But he will never apologize and double/ triple down spewing nonsense. He has personal vendettas and will never give anything positivr. I stopped watching undisputed because of it.
The real reason he left is because he got fired. The only way any company will pay you severance is if you’re forced to leave. It’s amazing how many people don’t know that.
@@Romans9173408 all non-podcast sports shows are struggling. The format wasn’t working even before Shannon was fired, which is why both sides were willing to blow it all up. Podcasting is where it’s at.
Remember the guy is from Denver and what's left of sports "journalism" is insanely woke. You can attack the old white guy because liberals say so. But yes Stephen A Smith has been the insanely controversial hot take guy now since the early 2010s. Weirdly between him and Skip you know it's bad when Skip seems sane. Shannon Sharpe I think just wanted to be more than CBS Jim Brown. All 3 of those guys just seem to exist to same crazy dumb shit for controversy.
Earnest question here. What was so wrong about Skip's tweet? All he said was they have to figure out the game and the playoff implications, but it seems irrelevant in comparison to the Hamlin situation. Maybe I'm missing something
I think it was just the high sensitivity of that moment. The tweet being so focused on the scheduling and importance of that game and not just being worried about him.
He tweeted while dude was still on the ground. If he'd waited to tweet it until after we knew Hamlin was going to be ok it would've been nothing. What he said was ok, it was the timing. He failed to recognize the humanity of the situation.
Looks like people were4 offended that a sports commentator would dare to mention the practical complications the situation would have on the sport instead of purely focusing on the medical situation. I think that it was a massive overreaction as well, for the record.
@@stoneylonesome5826 there was nothing wrong with skips tweet but what does that have to do with them messing up the damar Hamlin situation his tweet was saying how his health was more important than even a game that was extremely crucial.
@@oNextq no, I agree the game shouldn’t be cancelled. Not just because that particular one had playoff implications, but also because it would set a precedent that every game could be canceled due to a significant enough injury.
Demarr Hamlin didn't even play and had no impact on his team in 2023. Unless you just want to turn it into some feel-good award, Joe Flacco was clearly the player with the biggest *impactful* comeback that year.
Then change the award name to most impactful, not comeback player. Or split it, one be a comeback player,one be most impactful. Hard to see why coming back from the dead wouldn’t be seen as a comeback but that’s the NFL writer’s decision.
The whole thing is a feel-good show. And the awards are too subjective to logically argue. Like it was said earlier in vid, Hamlin made a comeback to life, Flacco made a comeback from his couch, lol. They were both feel good fodder just like Geno Smith the year before and Alex Smith before that.
@@notorioustori yeah, no. That’s stupid as fuck. I couldn’t give less of a shit about Hamlin making a “comeback to life” to play zero football. This isn’t an award for the National League of Medicine lol… NFL awards should go to football accomplishments. In any case, Hamlin didn’t win and I’m glad.
That's what shock jocks do. They make provocative statements for the sole purpose of gaining attention, preferably as evenly divisive and offensive as possible.
I'm gonna guess it was by letting him yell something really stupid and then being marginally smarter ;-) 13:20 It baffles me that anyone wants to listen to any of these loud-mouths tbh.
i don’t watch sports shows for sports i watch them for personality, that’s why i gotta recommended “first thing’s first” for really being one of the best shows out there for everything new and different they try with their hosts’ great personalities.
@@stingrey1571that’s not true. Shannon left CBS in the midst of pending S Assault allegations against him, as a result of his baby momma. She filed a restraining order on him after Shannon allegedly called her, threatening her.
I think Skip also changed his dynamic and persona post Shannon. And I don’t think he’s done yet. He’s the villain who needs a proper opponent. If and when found, the dynamic will refresh the desire for viewers to see him fighting stubbornly to the death for his eccentric viewpoints, I still think the fact that Skip and Nick Wright don’t have a show where they exclusively talk LeBron vs Jordan is literally a crime against humanity. It’s the grudge match this current age of gossipy sports media needs. They’re literally like the antichrist of each others perspectives. One thing I deeply respect about Skip is he made it a point early in his career to not befriend players or become a locker room reporter because he thought it would stain his objectivity. I’m sure in 99% of instances, the feeling was mutual, but even GM version of Michael Jordan couldn’t escape Skip’s wrath. I think a place still exists for him in sports media because he’s just too hated and fans relish too much in seeing him defeated in arguments etc. But he’s gonna have to find that spot again to reignite the fire. Skip is stubborn, has some whacky opinions and outlandish interpretations of sports topics. But I’ve never once found him dishonest. A hater, biased, or otherwise, sure. But I’ve never felt like he wasn’t telling me what he truly felt.
You’re telling me that people don’t want to watch a sports talk show where the host makes the most outlandish predictions about the most overrated athletes? Nooooo😂
What’s truly insane about that Skip tweet regarding Damar Hamlin is what he tagged on at the, saying that the regular season outcome “suddenly seems so irrelevant.” He wasn’t just trying to have his cake and eat it too, he was trying to sell the bakery while baking more cakes.
When skip told Shannon, “you ONLY won three superbowls and is jealous of Tom Brady.” Skip was totally dismissive of sharpe’s career. Dude is on the mt Rushmore of tight ends.
My wife HATES sports. She wouldn't piss on an NFL player if he was on fire. And one day a few months ago I found her watching the Katt Williams interview. That's when I knew Shannon had reached the mainstream.
Everyone was upset and looking for someone to attack. Crazy that people still haven't gone back and read it with a level head. Any outrage was the result of misinterpreting what he said.
People often do this on social media - but the outrage was mostly that he tweeted about the game/league and how things would be handled logistically and people got upset because the tweet wasn't about Damar Hamlin and concern for his well-being. Which is dumb and a functioning adult should be able to do both. I think Skip's handling of the tweet after the fact was bad, but I thought the tweet itself was fine and people way overreacted.
Flacco should have got the award over the guy that had 3 tackles. It’s an award for an improved performance not a lack of one. And as far as Skip’s apology goes, every time you open your mouth you risk offending someone, but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t speak.
Hey, TGS: not sure why the algo started recommending your videos, but you're pretty good. Love the dry and self-deprecating humor. Don't worry: I will use my contacts to get your a guest hosting gig on the Black Money podcast (of course, I don't have those contacts).
I am in the minority that actually enjoys Skip more than Shannon. They played off each other really well, but the way Skip delivered his takes makes him really entertaining.
I agree with Brandon about Skip making his fame on getting under peoples skin! That is why I don’t watch non of those “fake” debate shows! Keep up the great work @thatsgoodsports 💪🏾
Anyone watching Undisputed from 2016-2023 knew that Shannon was the lifeblood of that show. I’m glad that he’s succeeding on his own. Club Shay Shay is easily the best podcast on TH-cam.
Hey Perna. Why do you assume that someone who watches to the end is someone you haven't pissed off yet? You piss me off every time I watch you...that's part of why I keep coming back. I'm a glutton for sports-related comedy-adjacent content. Keep it coming!
The tweet controversy is wild to me. He literally said this situation sucks for the NFL and everyone lost their minds. Absolutely baffling behavior honestly.
whining about a football game while a player is lying almost dead on the field surrounded by paramedics is disgusting and got exactly the response it should have
He didn't say that. A guy literally died on the field and Skip is talking about what the game means for the regular season. Who the fuck cares what the game meant to the regular season??? A guy literally died!
It’s because not only was that the wrong time to worry about scheduling, but his wording also suggested that postponement was a bad idea. We didn’t know if Hamlin was going to live or die at that point. Even if all he did was say “this situation sucks for the NFL” (which is not a full description), anyone in their right mind would’ve said “who the hell cares?”
I also think this story came around the same time the Texans owner made insensitive comments about his players comparing them to inmates, so black players and media personalities were understandably sensitive to begin with. I could be wrong about the timing on that though
When I first got more into football I'd watch undisputed's clips on youtube and I always found Shannon to be more endearing and entertaining. At first I didn't really hate Skip as much as everyone else, but over the course of casually watching them over a year I began to just dislike the guy heavily. I never knew when he was being sincere or just being hyperbolic to get views. He became increasingly annoying to me.
Did anyone actually read Skip's tweet or did they just say he was being an a hole. He literally said that none of that seems to matter right now i.e only damar mattered right now
None of those idiots read it it. I understood it right when I first read it. Everyone just looked for someone to be mad at. Lack of comprehension skills...he said it was irrelevant. Poorly worded but I knew what he meant
I love Shannon Sharpe and I'm just a low level finance employee. He is so inspirational. He is so diligent and wise. I'm subscribed to both Nightcap and Club Shay Shay. I hope to one day be as committed as he is to everything he does.
Lololol. Hater... This way guys. Found the hater. Lolol. When Shannon started doing media, Pat wasn't even in the league yet. Pat now has the #1 rated daily sports show and Shannon has the number 2 rated sports podcast, behind New Heights. So Pat and Shannon aren't even competing head on. Club Shay Shay is weekly. The Pat McAfee Show is daily. If anything, Shannon is competing with the New Heights Podcast... And losing.
Yea it’s ridiculous that people freaked out. He literally stated that the game outcome is irrelevant. You know if it was SS that tweeted that, people wouldn’t have an issue. Pathetic
It was the timing. This was the Monday Night game and Hamlin had basically died on the field and they had to keep him alive with CPR before paramedics arrived. This wasn’t an “injury” - this was a life threatening issue that happened on the field of play. He potentially died from an innocent play. Well later that same night Skip tweeted this before we even knew Hamlin had survived, but was in critical condition. The spirit of the anger was basically "Let's find out if the kid survived before we worry about how we can resolve the conclusion of a football game."
I believe it was a problem of framing and timing. He made it sound like he was questioning how the league could possibly consider postponing the game, even though Hamlin was still lifeless on the ground.
Totally agree with everything you said here. Nice to see a non-comedic bit from you! Nice journalism. I don't particularly care for Shannon Sharpe's guest selection on his show so far. I admit that is because there's nothing about them I can identify with or have in common. The interviews have been interesting and open up a new perspective. I'm hoping as his show matures there will be a bit more diversity tho. His sports takes are amazing. He's clearly VERY intelligent and he understands many things in the sports world. Really happy Stephen A gave him a chance to land on his feet.
Shannon Sharpe is fine. He talks too much and always have. I love him on the field. He’s fine off of it. Y’all are def balls deep on Sharpe, but I’m like whatevs I guess. I don’t get this whole parasocial stuff people do these days.
So they fired the man and still made him do an exit job interview on national television. No wonder the man was having trouble keeping it together on his last show.
Sorry but that Tweet wasn't remotely bad. He said the outcome seemed irrelevant now. Clearly indicated the magnitude of the moment. Its not like he said Fuck Hamlin finish the game 😂
That's not what he said. He literally was talking about how this affects the scheduling first and then throw in that line about it not mattering as an afterthought.
I was gonna comment. "You"re telling me that a FOX entity pushed out a popular black personality for an old white man? Whaaaaaaattttttt? Nooooooooooooo..."
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Skip really lost me when he called Dak a bad leader for being depressed after his mother and brother passed away. Bruh.
It was the tweet after Damar Hamlin for me. That was AWFUL.
That shit was fake I follow his brother on instagram
Facts. Skip has been awful for awhile now
Yeah, that was terrible.
@@girafee3454He has multiple brothers the one your talking about is tad right?
Gonna be honest, I dislike most of the talking heads. Grossi, Tree, Kollmann, and Perna are where I get sports news.
Can’t stand any of those clowns. They literally just all post the same recycled garbage. Perna is only one who has original video ideas..
I like Joel Klatt for college football
I’m right there with you. I can tolerate them for a few minutes, if they’re talking about my team, but the TH-cam crew are my go to’s for anything over 3-4 minutes.
Because most media talking heads are garbage. I wouldn't wanna listen to any of them anymore.
Those and people like Kenny Beecham for basketball
Skip talking about the Cowboys and Lakers is just not my idea of a good time.
I'm a Cowboys fan, and it's not my idea of a good time either
Only watch if you're interested in being bored
“You’re gonna have a bad time”- Ski instructor from South Park
Skip opening his mouth is overall not a good time.
@redbeard5939 I was going to comment the same thing my friend lol
Cowboys fan, just can't stand skips takes
It’s funny how much Skip Bayless is universally hated, yet his younger brother, Rick Bayless, is universally loved. Rick is the Bob Ross of cooking.
Rick is goated even the Mexicans agree
Rick fucks food like Bob fucked canvas.... it's wild to see someone see those similarities. 🎉🎉🎉
Who is he?
WTF they are brothers?!
They could not possibly be more different from each other
On Nightcap Shannon said 40% of his audience is women. Which is crazy for a big time sports show. He has such a magnetic personality that you just can’t help but tune in.
That has to be from the interviews you wouldn’t think they came from undisputed
40% is impressive, but do we have numbers on how many viewers that actually is?
@@TheWolfjakYou can literally see the number of views next to every video
@@steph_566 oh duh, lol. I’m retarded. Sorry bro haha
I mean it’s basically a male Oprah show
God I can't stand 2 people yelling in a debate for more than 30 seconds.
I thought I was the only one. I have no interest in that drama.
Don’t turn on the tv then because that’s half the channels
Keyshawn Johnson less than 1s
Dont tune in tonight to CNN, then
How anyone enjoys SPORTS YELLING AND INTERRUPTING I’ll never know. It’s everything I hated about drinking in bars without the pleasure of getting drunk.
Man, that sequence where he's telling Skip that he can't even get through a monologue without him interrupting and Skip just *keeps interrupting*...
skip can’t read a room to save his life
@@fazexxxtentacion3731Because he believes that he’s the most important person in any room.
Jim Rome built the fire that started burning down the way we consumed sports talk, and SAS and Skip dumped rocket fuel on it and completely scorched it beyond recognition.
He and Colin Cowherd were my least favorite in the 2000s and unfortunately, most anchors on ESPN replicated them
"Clones!" 😂😂😂 wow memories.
This comment is preposterous. Catastrophic. Jim Rome is HUGE!!
He didn't argue Jim Rome's fame or recognition, he's saying his impact on the format set up the current toxicity of sports media.@@jlinn12
Jim Rome was done after Jim Everett interview…..
The real question is when will Clickbait Sports get a contract from Fox Sports
Never… say never! 😂
"You guys gotta replace your cowboys fan with somebody white... unless he speaks out against BLM"
It's too awkward
I don't know that would help FS in the short term (which lets be honest, that's all they care about) but there's no way it could possibly be any worse than what they're doing now!
These guys need a brand launch like macafee....... they can punt harder than anyone!!!!!!!
Skip’s brother is a really chill, famous chef. So there’s that.
All hail Rick Bayless
Facts
hes a culture vulture of Mexican culture
And Rick doesn't even get along with his own brother so...
@@blueprint7Is it Tex-Mex or Mexican cuisine? Obviously a big difference
Skips ego got way too big, he gets way to personal. Shannon and skip were so perfect for each other. Skip cnn never get out of his own way.
Rick Bayless will always be the better brother.
FACTS. The positivity and sincerity of Rick makes me question the paternity though. Lol. The fact that they share a last name and look alike be damned, they seem like they couldn't be more opposite. Although that might explain why they're estranged. I wouldn't want to call Skip my kin either.
It's hard to hate the guy who makes great tacos, nobody hates the taco man 😂
hes a culture vulture of Mexican culture
@@blueprint7so Asian people are culture vultures by wearing suits? Are people who make pizzas stealing Italian culture? Anyone outside of America can’t make hamburgers? Stfu if you do something well it does not matter what your race is
The parents named them Rick and Skip?? 😂
The only good thing Fox Sports has going for it right now is First Things First. They need to lean heavily into Brou and the crew because that show is pure gold!
Nick on anything about the bills lebron and Aaron Rodgers is unbearable
they need to talk about sports and not feelings
Every sports caster has a certain topic they are useless to hear about. @@vasquezeli19
I think the straw that broke the camels back was when Skip went gushing over Brady a bit too much and insulted Shannons greatness as a player. Shannon didn't take it well and asked Skip to apologize, since he thought they were friends and that was uncalled for saying that on air. Skip refused and I think that's where it all went downhill, both with their friendship and the show. Skip is simply incapable of admitting he's wrong or taking a step back.
When he said,”you ONLY won three super bowls.” That was then Shannon had every right to break skip’s neck then and there.
FACT: the Los Angeles Lakers head coach has been debating Stephen A Smith for the last 2 years
I can not wait for stephan to start shitting all over his coaching, lol then he wins a ring.
If you can call petulantly whining about the media while projecting insecurity all in an effort to show how smart he thinks he is "debating" then yes, he has been 'debating' Stephen A for 2 years.
Not with lebron. LOL @@NoFace-ke9pc
@@NoFace-ke9pche ain't winning no ring
How Perna can make 5 million on one show?
A shoot interview with Skip Bayless.
a shoot promo on Skip Bayless
WE COMIN FOR YOU
Bruh 😂😂😂
That Jonny Manzel take is an all timer😭
Seriously, WTF!
I also feel bad for Jen Hale who also “left” Undisputed as moderator.
I love that she got fired after coming at Skip
@@raavhollywood Actually that was Jenny Taft
It was Jenny. She got a better job that allows her to spend time with her baby.
@@clipobserver You are right, I'm actually thinking of Taft
@raavhollywood I thought Jenny Taft was the best host of them all.
I think Shannon Sharpe got the bad end of it as well. He and SAS don’t mesh well together at all and having two men just yell hot takes that no one cares about all week while making up false narratives dropped his stock too. The only chance you get to see some of the real Shannon anymore is with his Club Shay Shay podcast and his podcast at night with OchoCinco.
Agreed
And also he meshed with Skip so well
The reason we got peak Shannon is because Skip was essentially the lob thrower
Chad Johnson has a podcast? Kiss the baby
But I do think that he needed to move forward. I watched undisputed in its latter time and even before the issues, the show was becoming stale. The repetitive nature of Cowboys, Lebron, Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady burned me out. It was always the same convos. At least now, it felt like more interesting debates were had and pushed through online.
@@johnv6806 Yeah they have one called Nightcap. Just Shannon and Ocho.
SAS is "prepping Sharpe as his predecessor..." Gonna have to puzzle on that one for a minute.
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed this. But maybe Stephen A has a time machine...😂
Word. Wanted to say something myself, but the Find-function led me to your comment, so I'll just dogpile. Normally Perna doesn't make these kinds of gaffes, such as confusing predecessor with successor. Maybe some fanboy wants to claim it was done on purpose and Perna's intent was to say Smith was setting himself up as a predecessor to Sharpe, but I'd argue that's not the case.
@@andrewneedham3281 he’s clearly incredibly emotionally charged about this topic, to the point where he’s disingenuously misrepresenting Skip’s Damar Hamlin tweet that anyone with a shred of reading comprehension can see through.
If that's the case the whole world can't see through his tweet. @@mantistoboggan5650
Lol it makes zero sense any way you look at it cuz Uncle Shay is in his twilight years, he’s gotta be older than Stephen A. (He’s not. Stephen A is 56, Shannon 55 but ya get the point)
My favourite talkshow atp is First Things First. The guys there have really good chemistry and seem to have a lot of fun which makes the show just really enjoyable to watch.
Me too although I wish brou and wildes would push back harder against Nick and his wildly biased takes
Brou can’t push back because him and Bron go waaaaay back. Wildes can’t really push back because Fox is trying so hard to bring him on after he retires. Wildes pushes back a little bit, but it’s subtle enough to where Nick can just railroad it and ignore it.
I don't really mind the biased takes because I do think it makes the debates more fun, especially when they flex/clown on each other (ex. when Wildes does his gentlemen sweep thing with the nuggets, but then Brou and Nick uno reverse him for it after game 7). It makes for good banter and nothing ever gets personal between them (like it did for Skip and Shannon).
I also feel like Nick isn't all that bad anymore. He is for sure still biased, but he can be pretty creative as to how he gets his points across which I find a lot more interesting than Skip who always has the same 3 talking points each time and he does admit to being wrong which I also appreciate.
@jman652000 the dude only has three takes: Immediately right, eventually right, unequivocally completely wrong.
“Skeeeeeeeeeip!”
My favorite part of the show lmfao
Hol onnn skkeeeeeeeeippp
It's obvious that Shannon has the better personality but i think Skip and Shannon are by far better pair then him and Steven A i think that much is obvious. But Skip can't do it unless he has someone that can match that same ridiculous energy he brings to the show with personality. Shannon will always be entertaining and Skip is just there but them together was the best duo and I don't think that will ever be otherwise
Facts
None of these talking heads will match the days of NFL GameDay with Rich Eisen, Michael Irvin, and Deion Sanders.
Corner of Prime time was PRIME highlight reels
Also mad respect for you to call out Bayless as not actually being a cowboy fan. This is why you're one of the only people I get my news from
Or Sunday NFL countdown. I watched that religiously as a kid.
I dislike Skip A LOT , but I always felt like people way overreacted to what he was saying in the tweet.
Yes, the message was jumbled, and he should have known better as a writer.
But look at the two sentences. In one sentence he’s asking how the NFL would be able to ‘postpone’ the game. It’s a fair question. I’ve never seen the NFL continue a game days later like I’ve seen in MLB. Ultimately that wasn’t what the NFL did. In the second sentence, he is pointing out the magnitude of the game, and commenting on how it’s ultimately irrelevant when juxtaposed with Hamlin’s injury.
Nothing about those two sentences was offensive, in my opinion.
Problem was how Skip wrote the “….which suddenly seems so irrelevant” part. People misread that and got mad.
All in, my ass
There was absolutely nothing wrong with the tweet people just can’t read
You would think Reading comprehension wouldn’t be this hard for Americans lol
Gotta admit... never understood the controversy.
But that's Twitter for ya.
Yup. I always understood what he was saying in the tweet so I did not expect people to get upset. It wasn’t until the next day that I saw there was backlash. He just worded it badly but I still understood it. I also always knew that Shannon was fired. When I read “Buyout” I knew he got let go and I assumed it was mostly due to the disrespect from the Tom Brady debate and maybe a little to do with his argument at the Lakers game. I was waiting for Shannon or anyone to finally come out and say he didn’t leave, he was fired. But ultimately is was the best thing that could’ve happened for him.
Skip's tweet about that Bengals/Bills game was not nearly as bad as people made it out to be. I don't like Skip but that was a massive overreaction.
agreed
THANK YOU. He basically says "the standings are inconsequential, some crazy shit just went down" and everyone lost their minds
Right. His comment was about canceling the game, which was an important game for the playoffs, NOT insulting or attacking Hamlin….
What sucks is i know perna’s not an idiot, so he’s clearly being disingenuous with how hes framing the tweet
@@mantistoboggan5650 was he? I thought he was just using it to illustrate that the vast majority of comments were negative and it is still up and how it probably hurt Skip’s stock….
I always loved to hear Skip bloviating and being 100% wrong nearly 100% of the time!
The cherry on top for so many is he's a Cowboys fanboy. They haven't been relevant since the 90's
@@JusNoBS420he's their spirit animal, as far as I'm concerned.
But he will never apologize and double/ triple down spewing nonsense. He has personal vendettas and will never give anything positivr. I stopped watching undisputed because of it.
Those Katt Williams views are insane 😂
So are you
"going balls deep into Skip Bayless" - words that should never, ever be spoken.
The real reason he left is because he got fired. The only way any company will pay you severance is if you’re forced to leave. It’s amazing how many people don’t know that.
they fired him and ended up worse for it. talk about fumbling a bag. more money doesn't mean you know how to spend it.
@@Romans9173408 all non-podcast sports shows are struggling. The format wasn’t working even before Shannon was fired, which is why both sides were willing to blow it all up. Podcasting is where it’s at.
Let's be honest, Stephen A. isn't much better than Skip. The new era guys are carrying.
Stephen a gets more views than Skip on YT
yep ... pretty much the same yawn-fest
Remember the guy is from Denver and what's left of sports "journalism" is insanely woke. You can attack the old white guy because liberals say so.
But yes Stephen A Smith has been the insanely controversial hot take guy now since the early 2010s. Weirdly between him and Skip you know it's bad when Skip seems sane.
Shannon Sharpe I think just wanted to be more than CBS Jim Brown.
All 3 of those guys just seem to exist to same crazy dumb shit for controversy.
nearly fell out my chair when Kendrick started, 🤣
I saw the pop out Ken & friends yesterday on TH-cam and it was a good concert. I think it was funny when he performed not like us 6 times
I was reading this at the exact moment it got to that part in the vid! 😅
I still can’t believe my grandpa and Skip Bayless went to high school together
What if skip is your real grandpa??
@@CesarRamirez-cn5fw Don't put that evil on this random YT commenter. C'mon, man.
So did hundreds of other people. Congratulations
@@J.G.Wentworth69420 one of those hundreds of others was future senator Elizabeth Warren!
I wish I could make half the money being wrong 99% of the that Skip makes in a month.
People have a weird, to me, definition of "entertaining" if Skip fits it.
Earnest question here. What was so wrong about Skip's tweet? All he said was they have to figure out the game and the playoff implications, but it seems irrelevant in comparison to the Hamlin situation. Maybe I'm missing something
I think it was just the high sensitivity of that moment. The tweet being so focused on the scheduling and importance of that game and not just being worried about him.
He tweeted while dude was still on the ground. If he'd waited to tweet it until after we knew Hamlin was going to be ok it would've been nothing. What he said was ok, it was the timing. He failed to recognize the humanity of the situation.
I think people overreacted. If he would have said that the next day nobody would have said anything
Looks like people were4 offended that a sports commentator would dare to mention the practical complications the situation would have on the sport instead of purely focusing on the medical situation. I think that it was a massive overreaction as well, for the record.
People wanted a reason to be furious and Skip gave them one. Just misplaced anger at someone asking a valid question.
The day I found this channel and Grossi, I was so happy to never have to watching these shouting idiots again.
I still miss skip and Shannon together it was lit
There is literally nothing wrong with skips tweet. People just can’t read.
That’s the irony here, Skip (as much as I dislike him) wasn’t wrong. The NFL really screwed up the Hamlin situation.
@@stoneylonesome5826 there was nothing wrong with skips tweet but what does that have to do with them messing up the damar Hamlin situation his tweet was saying how his health was more important than even a game that was extremely crucial.
@@oNextq the point I was making is that the NFL wound up cancelling that game.
@@stoneylonesome5826so you don’t agree with skips tweet. So you think they shouldn’t have cancelled the game?
@@oNextq no, I agree the game shouldn’t be cancelled. Not just because that particular one had playoff implications, but also because it would set a precedent that every game could be canceled due to a significant enough injury.
That Euphoria part was such ear candy lol
My wife had never heard of Shanon Sharpe before the Kat Williams interview. Now she is subscribed to him.
Going Balls Deep in Bayless with Perna feels so good it makes my toes curl!
Racist much?
Demarr Hamlin didn't even play and had no impact on his team in 2023. Unless you just want to turn it into some feel-good award, Joe Flacco was clearly the player with the biggest *impactful* comeback that year.
They quietly benched him. Too much risk.
Then change the award name to most impactful, not comeback player. Or split it, one be a comeback player,one be most impactful. Hard to see why coming back from the dead wouldn’t be seen as a comeback but that’s the NFL writer’s decision.
@@ginnyweatherbee7941Comeback to the NFL, Hamlin came back to life. Life isn't football /j
The whole thing is a feel-good show. And the awards are too subjective to logically argue. Like it was said earlier in vid, Hamlin made a comeback to life, Flacco made a comeback from his couch, lol. They were both feel good fodder just like Geno Smith the year before and Alex Smith before that.
@@notorioustori yeah, no. That’s stupid as fuck. I couldn’t give less of a shit about Hamlin making a “comeback to life” to play zero football. This isn’t an award for the National League of Medicine lol… NFL awards should go to football accomplishments. In any case, Hamlin didn’t win and I’m glad.
Skip blew it…although I am not a fan ESPN it is a better deal since he doesn’t have to do it all the time like he was on Fox Sports 1.
Does anyone actually like Skip Bayless? I feel like his entire career is built on intentionally making people hate him.
He's a good shit disturber, I guess. But there's no appeal for me in that.
That's what shock jocks do. They make provocative statements for the sole purpose of gaining attention, preferably as evenly divisive and offensive as possible.
The point is for him to be hated. Its his character. Its like the WWE and sports reporting mixed together.
Anybody remember Cold Pizza with Woddy Page and Skip?
Hell yes!!!!😂
Yep. Feels like 100 years ago lol
Dana Jacobsen ❤❤❤
Woddy....
no
A big hello from Brisbane, Australia. Thanks for your episodes. I really enjoy them.
Honestly, Perna has the best sports news program currently.
Congrats to Shannon and he deserves it! 🔥🔥🔥
I'm gonna guess it was by letting him yell something really stupid and then being marginally smarter ;-)
13:20 It baffles me that anyone wants to listen to any of these loud-mouths tbh.
Especially when you take into account how often they’re completely wrong. It just feels like a huge waste of time.
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 Exactly!
@@ThoughtlessDestiny Uh huh.
Agreed
We call these clowns the "Pundouches"
i don’t watch sports shows for sports i watch them for personality, that’s why i gotta recommended “first thing’s first” for really being one of the best shows out there for everything new and different they try with their hosts’ great personalities.
"...can't admit when he's wrong" there are 75 million people who think that qualifies a person to hold the highest office
12/12/2022 was my birthday. I remember watching the show that day and seeing them fight. I also remember watching the episode after Demar.
Don’t forget CBS fired Sharpe too
@@stingrey1571that’s not true. Shannon left CBS in the midst of pending S Assault allegations against him, as a result of his baby momma. She filed a restraining order on him after Shannon allegedly called her, threatening her.
@@whitemamba24xe98 thank you for the info. Didn’t know that
@stingrey1571 it was literally because he inappropriately cornered a woman in an elevator.
I think Skip also changed his dynamic and persona post Shannon. And I don’t think he’s done yet. He’s the villain who needs a proper opponent. If and when found, the dynamic will refresh the desire for viewers to see him fighting stubbornly to the death for his eccentric viewpoints,
I still think the fact that Skip and Nick Wright don’t have a show where they exclusively talk LeBron vs Jordan is literally a crime against humanity. It’s the grudge match this current age of gossipy sports media needs. They’re literally like the antichrist of each others perspectives.
One thing I deeply respect about Skip is he made it a point early in his career to not befriend players or become a locker room reporter because he thought it would stain his objectivity. I’m sure in 99% of instances, the feeling was mutual, but even GM version of Michael Jordan couldn’t escape Skip’s wrath. I think a place still exists for him in sports media because he’s just too hated and fans relish too much in seeing him defeated in arguments etc. But he’s gonna have to find that spot again to reignite the fire.
Skip is stubborn, has some whacky opinions and outlandish interpretations of sports topics. But I’ve never once found him dishonest. A hater, biased, or otherwise, sure. But I’ve never felt like he wasn’t telling me what he truly felt.
Good video brandon
You’re telling me that people don’t want to watch a sports talk show where the host makes the most outlandish predictions about the most overrated athletes? Nooooo😂
Never heard of first take? lol
Skip’s tweet on the Damar Hamlin game was inelegant but not wrong.
I just can’t beleive so many people read his tweet and didn’t.comprehend what they just read.
@@marlanpete08 reading is hard, dude!
More sensitive times. Made worse by social media and shaming.
That kind of response is what happens when people are driven by emotions.
What’s truly insane about that Skip tweet regarding Damar Hamlin is what he tagged on at the, saying that the regular season outcome “suddenly seems so irrelevant.” He wasn’t just trying to have his cake and eat it too, he was trying to sell the bakery while baking more cakes.
Whats truly insane are commenters being able to write a cohesive sentence nowadays.
When skip told Shannon, “you ONLY won three superbowls and is jealous of Tom Brady.”
Skip was totally dismissive of sharpe’s career. Dude is on the mt Rushmore of tight ends.
😂 No, he isn't on the Mt Rushmore of TEs.
@@schmuckytheraiderbear5043 that may be your opinion. There is no denying he is an all time great.
My wife HATES sports. She wouldn't piss on an NFL player if he was on fire. And one day a few months ago I found her watching the Katt Williams interview. That's when I knew Shannon had reached the mainstream.
"A show I hope to be ask to guest on one day" thats your best joke this year😂
“The let’s go Jen” speaks volumes
That Kendrick Lamar segment is hilarious 😭😭
Shannon sharp is one very few humans who it's impossible to hate. ❤you Shannon.
Kind regards
Bum from Australia
I still don’t understand what was wrong with his tweet
Everyone was upset and looking for someone to attack. Crazy that people still haven't gone back and read it with a level head. Any outrage was the result of misinterpreting what he said.
People often do this on social media - but the outrage was mostly that he tweeted about the game/league and how things would be handled logistically and people got upset because the tweet wasn't about Damar Hamlin and concern for his well-being. Which is dumb and a functioning adult should be able to do both.
I think Skip's handling of the tweet after the fact was bad, but I thought the tweet itself was fine and people way overreacted.
lol i said the same thing from my couch... i agree even though i think skip is terrible
You're the best Brandon. Keep up the good work
Flacco should have got the award over the guy that had 3 tackles.
It’s an award for an improved performance not a lack of one.
And as far as Skip’s apology goes, every time you open your mouth you risk offending someone, but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t speak.
This is awesome work, love seeing the channel grow. Thank you for the consistent and quality content. Shannon would be proud lol
0:20 buddy sounds like Arthur Morgan
“Some believe he is prepping Sharpe as his predecessor.” Should say “successor” rather than “predecessor”. Great video!
Skip needs to partner up with Kwame Brown
lol. KB is a clown. He can’t stop vaping and drinking long enough to throw together a coherent sentence.
idgaf. people would pay attention. attention pays
KB hates skip 😂
Hey, TGS: not sure why the algo started recommending your videos, but you're pretty good. Love the dry and self-deprecating humor. Don't worry: I will use my contacts to get your a guest hosting gig on the Black Money podcast (of course, I don't have those contacts).
Can't stand either of them.... ESPN is sports Disney, literally. They ruined Pat and they will ruin Shannon.
🤣They didn't run pat the guy does whatever he wants .They need pat more then the other way around.
@@Samuel-eo1pj Not. His show has significantly changed since ESPN. Can't stand the sight of him now.
I couldn't stand him before, and he appears no different to me now.
I am in the minority that actually enjoys Skip more than Shannon. They played off each other really well, but the way Skip delivered his takes makes him really entertaining.
I just came here to comment that Stephen a Smith is a joke.
I agree with Brandon about Skip making his fame on getting under peoples skin! That is why I don’t watch non of those “fake” debate shows! Keep up the great work @thatsgoodsports 💪🏾
Anyone watching Undisputed from 2016-2023 knew that Shannon was the lifeblood of that show. I’m glad that he’s succeeding on his own. Club Shay Shay is easily the best podcast on TH-cam.
I really loved his interview with Kel Mitchell
Hey Perna. Why do you assume that someone who watches to the end is someone you haven't pissed off yet? You piss me off every time I watch you...that's part of why I keep coming back. I'm a glutton for sports-related comedy-adjacent content. Keep it coming!
The tweet controversy is wild to me. He literally said this situation sucks for the NFL and everyone lost their minds. Absolutely baffling behavior honestly.
It’s because of who he is & what he has done for 2 decades. Ppl were waiting for him to f up..
whining about a football game while a player is lying almost dead on the field surrounded by paramedics is disgusting and got exactly the response it should have
He didn't say that. A guy literally died on the field and Skip is talking about what the game means for the regular season. Who the fuck cares what the game meant to the regular season??? A guy literally died!
It’s because not only was that the wrong time to worry about scheduling, but his wording also suggested that postponement was a bad idea. We didn’t know if Hamlin was going to live or die at that point. Even if all he did was say “this situation sucks for the NFL” (which is not a full description), anyone in their right mind would’ve said “who the hell cares?”
I also think this story came around the same time the Texans owner made insensitive comments about his players comparing them to inmates, so black players and media personalities were understandably sensitive to begin with. I could be wrong about the timing on that though
When I first got more into football I'd watch undisputed's clips on youtube and I always found Shannon to be more endearing and entertaining. At first I didn't really hate Skip as much as everyone else, but over the course of casually watching them over a year I began to just dislike the guy heavily. I never knew when he was being sincere or just being hyperbolic to get views. He became increasingly annoying to me.
Did anyone actually read Skip's tweet or did they just say he was being an a hole. He literally said that none of that seems to matter right now i.e only damar mattered right now
None of those idiots read it it. I understood it right when I first read it. Everyone just looked for someone to be mad at. Lack of comprehension skills...he said it was irrelevant. Poorly worded but I knew what he meant
poor reading comprehension
Yea i usually respect Perna but this was a little disingenuous
I love Shannon Sharpe and I'm just a low level finance employee. He is so inspirational. He is so diligent and wise. I'm subscribed to both Nightcap and Club Shay Shay. I hope to one day be as committed as he is to everything he does.
Skips hate for Lebron is somehow the only reason he is where he is at and somehow the worst thing about him
For a chiefs fan, I love Shannon so much. Awesome human for sure
Sharpe has surpassed McAfee at this point. It is not even close.
Lololol. Hater... This way guys. Found the hater. Lolol.
When Shannon started doing media, Pat wasn't even in the league yet.
Pat now has the #1 rated daily sports show and Shannon has the number 2 rated sports podcast, behind New Heights.
So Pat and Shannon aren't even competing head on. Club Shay Shay is weekly. The Pat McAfee Show is daily.
If anything, Shannon is competing with the New Heights Podcast...
And losing.
@@josephpayton7522 McAfee is the number one.
@@A_TH-cam_Commenter what did I say?
you are on crack
6:43
To be fair Brandon, Flacco's real comeback story was that he came back from being on the Jets
WTF was wrong with Skip’s tweet about Hamlin? I seriously don’t understand
Yea it’s ridiculous that people freaked out. He literally stated that the game outcome is irrelevant. You know if it was SS that tweeted that, people wouldn’t have an issue. Pathetic
@@teelowteelow356 People=Shit
It was the timing. This was the Monday Night game and Hamlin had basically died on the field and they had to keep him alive with CPR before paramedics arrived. This wasn’t an “injury” - this was a life threatening issue that happened on the field of play. He potentially died from an innocent play.
Well later that same night Skip tweeted this before we even knew Hamlin had survived, but was in critical condition. The spirit of the anger was basically "Let's find out if the kid survived before we worry about how we can resolve the conclusion of a football game."
It was Skip's "but how?" that people took exception to. It easily makes his tweet look like he's questioning the idea of not completing the game.
Thank god for First things First showing us its possibly for 3 friends to actually have fun debating sports.
to be fair, Skip’s Hamlin tweet wasn’t even bad, people willfully misunderstood it bcuz he’s who he is.
After watching countless and countless videos from you, I have finally subscribed 👍
I still don’t understand what was wrong with skips tweet
I believe it was a problem of framing and timing. He made it sound like he was questioning how the league could possibly consider postponing the game, even though Hamlin was still lifeless on the ground.
This was the best video about it. Great work.
Skip Bayless is a pro wrestling gimmick. Anyone who takes him or his takes seriously are marks
Totally agree with everything you said here. Nice to see a non-comedic bit from you! Nice journalism. I don't particularly care for Shannon Sharpe's guest selection on his show so far. I admit that is because there's nothing about them I can identify with or have in common. The interviews have been interesting and open up a new perspective. I'm hoping as his show matures there will be a bit more diversity tho. His sports takes are amazing. He's clearly VERY intelligent and he understands many things in the sports world. Really happy Stephen A gave him a chance to land on his feet.
Shannon Sharpe is fine. He talks too much and always have. I love him on the field. He’s fine off of it. Y’all are def balls deep on Sharpe, but I’m like whatevs I guess. I don’t get this whole parasocial stuff people do these days.
Irony?
@@PriceAintRight huh?
So they fired the man and still made him do an exit job interview on national television. No wonder the man was having trouble keeping it together on his last show.
Sorry but that Tweet wasn't remotely bad. He said the outcome seemed irrelevant now. Clearly indicated the magnitude of the moment. Its not like he said Fuck Hamlin finish the game 😂
Exactly… but cancel culture was still running rampant at the time so he became an easy target for the fake outrage and propaganda.
People cant comprehend English bro😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
That's not what he said. He literally was talking about how this affects the scheduling first and then throw in that line about it not mattering as an afterthought.
Time and place for everything. That moment was improper for both.
Shannon is the 🐐
You know why Fox took Skip over Shannon. It ain't talent. Silly Fox
I was gonna comment. "You"re telling me that a FOX entity pushed out a popular black personality for an old white man? Whaaaaaaattttttt? Nooooooooooooo..."
@@WarEagle1023to be fair Shannon sounds like porky pig with peanut butter in his mouth when he talks.
Bro! This is not a surprise, though!!!! LOVE YOUR CONTENT BTW