Learning Boxing & Muay Thai Together | Good Or Bad?
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- Today I'm answering a comment about combining muay thai and boxing lessons together.
If you have your own request or question drop it in the comments and I will add it to my "film list".
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Boxing + muay thai. Do you think it's a good idea to train both?
Or will trying to combine fight sports impact your ability to get REALLY good at one style?
You rock Gabe. Keep being you. So happy i found yours and Rachel's channel. I learn so much about living a purposeful life.
understanding simple hand defense and body rotation from the hips is something that most boxers don't even know. also the dead back foots in punches🤮. for newbies you might want to break boxing up to into back foot rotation hip rotation and wrist rotation with full extension from the shoulder blade so its not an arm punch. also never looking at the opponents face. chin tucked and focused on the chin/chest area of the opponent. the face is no threat....
It depends on the learner's creativity & intelligence. Some people are too simple to learn more than one thing at a time.
@@jonascarter8808 dead back foot? Can you please explain?
Boxing outside of its sport is a supplemental art. Under a less restrictive rule set it cannot stand by itself. But as an additive to your kickboxing/ Muay Thai it will only make you better and better. In 13 years of coaching I have never had a student get worse from doing both. But it could be the teaching style. I teach from a perspective of using hands to set everything else up. I had a heavy boxing background. My best students go once or twice a week to a pure boxing gym and get work in and they only get better and better at kickboxing overall.
As a former Boxer turned Muay Thai fighter, I can confirm that there is a HUGE advantage with my hands against most kickboxers/Muay Thai fighters. But just like you said, I had to unlearn certain body mechanics that wouldn’t work for KB and it was a painful process to say the least 😅 I went on to win an amateur world title with just 8 months of Muay Thai training (14 fights in boxing)
I appreciate this video because I come across this debate/question a lot and our answers are very similar 🙏 you the man Gabe!!
Do you have any tips that you remember? I've been doing BJJ switched into MMA and all of my striking I've learned thru sparring. I'm thinking of starting MT or boxing but don't know which to choose. I got a Kelvin gastelum fridge body type and in sparring I always find a lot more success with my boxing.
Could you pls. expand on what exactly you have to unlearn?
I train thaib for a year and going to add boxing classes in boxing club. At leaat shortly from your experience, thanx
@@AxaFinRemember that they are totally different sports and that you will have to modify or change your footwork, stance, head movement, timing, distance and you may get them confused if you are learning both at the same time (IMO). I say choose Muay Thai first because it’s the closest to MMA and then add the pure boxing later, just because the clinching and extra weapons would be priority for you to learn.
@@lobohez7222 I had to unlearn my bladed (sideways) boxing stance, so I could check leg kicks and like Gabe said, dipping my head into the more dangerous strikes. So I would weave under a hook and eat a kick 🤦♂️😅 happened a few times before I had enough. Also I remember I would get in trouble for pushing in boxing, but in Muay Thai it is a huge weapon, so I’m learning to add it back into my arsenal. Push someone off balance mid combo or when they are striking to throw them off and create openings.
@@Swampyardboxing1993 pushing can also be a defense when someone goes to clinch you in muay thai.
Great answer. I had a coach who said just pick one otherwise it would confuse everything. But then, there are high level MMA guys who've done what you said by combining both. Was glad to get an authoritative answer from a world champion.
Yeah man just do both, he made a really good video on how to change your stance depending on your attack.
@@ryanthelion8319 link? I plan on binge watching several fitness and martial arts vids so I’d rather have the link to this one specifically instead of searching and scrolling.
i was a national level boxer and sparred with world level kickboxers, they were too slow for me, the only problem was the leg kicks, i couldn't walk two weeks, kicks to the body and head were no problem as I was used to the much higher tempo and speed of Olympic boxing.
I imagine adjusting your stance to avoid eating kicks was difficult? I trained kb and then tried to train boxing. Being forced into a bladed stance made me feel edgy.
yup, but did you spar MT guys? I feel many times when boxers come to the MT gym, they just get shut down fast, because they eat elbows and clinch knees when going close. Same with dutch kick though when i go to some other gyms. The gym is "k1" but their clinch, knees and kicks are awful usually. Easy to shut them when I can clinch, hard to fight when only boxing and lows are allowed. Then the pace is so much higher than MT.
I feel like that’s partly bc you’re such a high level boxer yk
We got ur legs 😂❤ love you bro ❤️🥊
If you competed in the olympics you’re going to compete with many trained fighters even from other disciplines.
I recently transitioned from boxing to kb. Sparring sessions are always a reality check for me and my partner. My boxing shows my opponents how vulnerable their chin is. And their kickboxing show me how vulnerable my body and legs are
My son started Muay Thai 5 months ago and I started taking him to a boxing gym a few weeks ago just to fill in the space between Muay Thai classes. I asked the boxing coaches not to mess with his stance or do any low dipping or big head movements with him as it’ll be dangerous when he’s doing Muay Thai due to the kicks and knees. The coach is cool about it and understands because he used to do TKD and knows what happens if you drop your head down too low. He does Muay Thai 3 days a week and boxing 2 days a week. Although the boxing is more strength and conditioning, he does the adult class because the kids classes are on the same days as Muay Thai
Most Muay Thai gyms have a dedicated boxing coach these days so the boxing is definitely getting better
Spent a year in mexico just working on boxing. Want to do the same in thailand with muay thai (probably more like 6 months). Making my mma debut next month 👌
Where did you train at in both places. I’m actually a Mexican American who wants to goto Thailand to train!
@@rico14 never been to thailand. I said I want to go. I trained at the julian magdaleno gym in mexico. It's in guadalajara. They've produced some good guys, canelo is probably the most famous boxer to come out of that gym though. Chepo reynoso was there occasionally when I was there, but didn't come in much because of covid worries
@@mpforeverunlimited oh nice. I actually have a cousin that lives close to Guadalajara.
@@rico14 I actually lived in zapopan but close enough lol. I would recommend romanza gym also, it's in cdmx. I prefer living in gdl but if your more liberal you may not like life there. Just depends on preference
How did the MMA debut go?
I train both boxing and Muay Thai and have been since I first came to my gym. Boxing absolutely helps with my Muay Thai. So long as you can identify the purpose of the technique and consciously know when and when not to use them in Muay Thai/Kickboxing you should be good. I do slip and change levels, even use the Philly shell in sparring when boxing, but I don’t in Thai, because it’s just that much riskier. But being comfortable in the pocket and having sharp, quick, powerful punches on the inside + the out boxing abilities to make angles, stay safe, and create opportunities is great. Not only does it let you box in Thai, it sets up other things. Those angles you make in boxing lead to free kicks. Outperforming someone in the pocket lets you really find those good knees when you incorporate clinch with it. Definitely worth boxing for Muay Thai, but get the fundamentals first
I've had the same experience. I find that over time, I learned to naturally transition between my Philly shell and heavily head movement based style in boxing rounds, and my high guard with occasional slips and ducks, with mostly parrying in Muay Thai rounds.
My background in boxing makes learning Muay Thai very smooth and efficient. I just focus on my kicking game at mt practice because the hands have become a hidden weapon. If you’ve never learned from a proper boxing coach, I highly recommend it. It’s a science, just like Muay Thai as well. I’m still a baby in mt/kb though. Great vid as always man!
All the big muay thai camp like pksenchai, petchyindee academy and fairtex have their own boxing coach. Which shows that good boxing is a big advantage in muay thai.
boxing+ muaythai and judo is everything you need
Add wrestling+BJJ
@@ogatoni8856nice additions❤
Or just MMA at that point. But I’d say 3 styles I wish I learned much sooner to feel fully confident in my abilities to fight would be
-Freestyle Wrestling (rather than Judo, I can’t find a judo place here 😅)
-Muay Thai
-Boxing
Learning boxing to be creative and use small details in the fight for you to get control of the fight. Because it’s so limited, with just punches to the upper body, learning how to make setup’s in boxing can probably help a fighter to make setups for kicks knees elbows as well
Take everything that works, discard anything that doesn't. And add your own things.
Bruce Lee was right in this thinking
Great video! Two factors to consider are: “Bobbing & weaving” as taught in Boxing is much riskier to do in Muay Thai. Also, Boxing has a much more bladed stance than Muay Thai in general; so that affects the mechanics of how the strikes are thrown.
Boxing doesn’t have a bladed stance but a more open stance so they can generate more power from the legs. If leg kicks didn’t exist in Muay Thai then MT fighters would do the same just as they used to do in Muay Boran.
Boxing stance makes it difficult to check kicks. You can’t lift your legs high enough. If you stood in a boxing stance in a Muay Thai fight you’d get your legs and body blasted with roundhouse kicks
Excellent response! Literally something I was pondering the other day. Thanks for bringing this question up. 👍
You post A TON of great content and you actually know what you are talking about, you deserve more subscribers!!!!!!
Hi Gabriel! Great video, I've just started to include boxing into my muaythai training and it's true it fits great! This video gives me confidence to continue!
When I was at Fairtex, they would do separate sparring rounds just for boxing. If you look at all of the greatest Thai boxers, Yodsaklai included, they all have great boxing. I love Fairtex boxing style. I learned how to do a cross to double uppercut there and that double uppercut is one of the greatest things I’ve ever learned.
For a beginner, that person should only focus on one or the other and if he/she does both then it’s best to do so with the same gym. If they go to a boxing only gym then they learn bad head movement habits for kickboxing but if they have a gym with two coaches working together for the fighter to achieve a goal then it’s much better.
what’s a cross to double uppercut?
2 > 6 > 5?
Parents did not allow me to do kickboxing at first so I started with boxing at 16 first for 2,5 years. Then I transitioned to Kickboxing.
My hands like putting the combos together...or putting all my bodyweight into the punches was remarkably superior to the kickboxing guys. My kicks catched up fast. Maybe because I played a lot of soccer and the mechanics of kicking a football and a leg is very similiar (Aldo one of the best leg kickers in MMA was a former soccer player too).
I had some problems though. Like mixing kicks into my combinations. Often I just threw just hands combinations and single kicks. Also my stand was too wide making me vulnerable to lowkicks more (more difficult to check than in a narrow stance).
All in all I am happy that I had the time to focus on the hands and would recommend it.
Sounds like your strong boxing base is exactly what many people should have as well. It's easier to add kicks after than to try and improve the boxing (in my opinion)
Just what am planning to schedule my training routine. This that has help me in the past now, he's doing the same. Thanks Gab
Great advise. Thnx 🥊
There are 2 muay thai gyms near me run by former (successful) pro fighters who combine it with Western boxing, so it's almost more like Dutch-style kickboxing with elbows and clinch added rather than a more traditional muay thai style. The one I go to is also licensed with the local boxing governing body and has dedicated boxing classes, and the kru sometimes makes us focus on just boxing, so the two sports absolutely go together for me 🙂 Obviously ends up with a harder learning curve than focusing on just one or the other, but I'm comfortable with sucking for a while until I really get things down 😅
that's just muay thai, bro. muay mat style.
Would love to hear your thoughts on the BMT system. Have you trained at all in Bang Muay Thai? Are there valuable takeaways? Strengths/weaknesses of the system? Thanks for all the awesome content, Gabriel! Great channel!
Then boxing at Friday
Thnx coach
Thank You Gabriel, for covering this topic. I have to admit I agree with you. I have been studying and training both boxing and Muay Thai for the last 2 years. I decided that about a year ago I was going to stick with pushing everything I can into both boxing and muay thai. If I were to truly want to learn or train another combat sport I would most definitely have to put boxing on hold.
what stance do u use do u use traditional muay thai or dutch style
That’s why I like the Dutch kickboxing style with some Muay Thai mixed in.
Completely agreed 👍
I know Gabriel from his videos absolutely he’s going to say boxing give you an edge.
I train at Elite Muay Thai in South Daytona, Florida and I take the 6pm boxing class then right into 7pm Muay Thai class. I've been training Muay Thai for about a year now and for about 10.5 months I wasn't taking boxing classes, since I didn't want to learn bad habits, or that's what I convinced myself, like slipping a punch and my head would be right there for a kick. From my experience in only Muay Thai I was taking to many shots to the head and it was more like eat one and give one back. I can stand and bang all day, but that's not good for long term. Gotta protect that chin and brain, so I started getting into boxing and found my footwork and rhythm again. Muay Thai kinda made me forget how to dance, but with boxing I found my footwork and can be light on my feet and move in all directions. I can shuffle sideways, then step in and rotate to throw that southpaw left rear kick. I feel by taking both classes at the same time is definitely the move if you're training. I don't regret only focusing on Muay Thai though, competing here is Muay Thai, so sharpening those checks, teeps, elbows, clinch, KNEES. Love it, thanks for sharing your knowledge champ 🙏
Watch Saenchai. He blends the two flawlessly and he’s always dancing.
@@moustachio334 I've been studying him for a long time. I also bought the How to fight giants course. It's really well made and he breaks down so many different techniques 👊
Im haven't exactly done boxing, but as a fan of the sport/MA it has really influenced my style as someone with a muay thai/kickboxing base, i would learn the techniques and study the movements and try to incorporate it into my style especially as i have transitioned into mma. my formers coaches having some knowledge in boxing also helped !
Good answer
for boxers it might be more beneficial to use karate because both utilizes the bladed stance & constant bounce so its more easier to transfer. from there u can add other skills necessary
Yes
This is a style within muay for 100’s of years when your looking for training don’t look for the best gym or the best kru look for the style of muay they teach and in doing so you will find the best kru and gym that fits your muay style. You wouldn’t want to learn muay mat/mud from let’s say a muay tae kru. Then look at if their technical or aggressive if your looking for a more aggressive style of muay mat your looking for muay boo pacing as well Etc etc.
Great video! Just commenting and adding to the conversation ❤
I’ve cross trained a bunch of different things over the years. I was in university, then back home then the military so I’ve struggled to do anything consistently. I think there’s a difference between training things together and actually cross training. In my experience it will take time to actually internalise to a competent degree, both arts. That’s where you’ll really see the benefit. Unless the arts are very different such as BJJ/Judo/wrestling and a striking art etc.
I trained boxing specifically to improve my muay thai punches effectiveness. And it has complimented my style well, I have found muay thai boxing defence is alot worse. That said my boxing doesn't score as well as say, a kick.
Thanks Gabe
In my experience it does great, boxing foot work, combination and minimalist distance management will suplement your muay thai
Hi Gabriel, I would love to see you do a video about Cung Le or Benny The Jet Urquidez I would love to see your reaction of them or a breakdown video of them.
I do muay thai and Brazilian jiu-jitsu...im able to focus on one at a time. Muay thai has helped me with my stand up in Brazilian jiu-jitsu with clinching guys for takedowns...
I would honestly recommend starting with Muay Thai and picking up Boxing later to help solidify ground game and fists
I got idea of boxing+Muay Thai after watching an anime kengan Ashura (season 2) character named kaolan, and your video really helped me bro.
bro me too 🤣🤣
I started both boxing and muay thai at the same time. boxing was super useful as it fixed my punching technique, evading punches and feeling comfortable at short and medium range. but in muay thai sparring it was either a kicking distance or a clinch work. so the fact is I could not get in medium range and show my boxing skills.
at a certain moment I gave up boxing using some basic punches and concentrated solely on muay thai.
yes - good boxing gives me certain advantage over guys who practice solely muay thai but it is just a portion of technique to be learned
that is why my kid started with a year of boxing and then steadily progressed to muay thai which he finds super interesting as the technique is much more complicated and hence exiting
Been boxing for 2 years, just did my first muay thai session. I think they translate perfectly
Personally I would rather establish a strong foundation in Boxing before going into Muay Thai. Between the 2 I found Muay Thai a little overwhelming because there is so much ground to cover. In addition IMO Boxing is more important for pure self defense. Learning to protect the head and deliver leveraged hands is something Boxing does very well. Enjoyed the video and the your expertise.
That was like that in Thailand till Raymond Decker came to Thailand and destroyed them with his boxing but now it's totally different. I've been into Muay Thai for over 33 years under Apidej Sit-hirun and Samart Payakaroon and we do focus a lot in boxing.
I'm a Taekwondo guy who now crosstrains in kickboxing (still do tkd though), we do a bit of muay thai and boxing in that class as part of our general kickboxing style. Had to change my stance a bit and get in the habit of keeping my hands up (coming from kukkiwon tkd), Having a lot of fun coming up with ways to further blend tkd and kickboxing.
Your TKD should already blend in with kickboxing. You should just drop TKD and focus on kickboxing. Unless your goal is to become a TKD teacher then training both is wasting your time.
@@moustachio334 i will not drop tkd cuz i enjoy doing it
Will you preview Superbon's next fight?
Hey I have request can u plz make a video on your opinion on double end bag and how to use it in most effective way
This is exactly my ideology on my fight style. Mauy Thai fighter with a fixation on boxing.
Hi
Muay Thai get into clinch
What about mixing boxing and greecoroman?
Next Kudo Vs. Karate Combat?
Thanks 👍
John Wayne Parr did. So yes.
He sucked
I've had to stagger learning the two. There are a lot of shared principles between the two - angles, striking mechanics, footwork, even some clinching technqiues - but there are important differences between the two. For instance, when I'm boxing, I have to stay mindful of how I roll and slip. Too much down and in MT I'd catch a knee to the face. Likewise in Muay Thai, using leanbacks is very useful for evasion, but leaning back too far in boxing exposes me to vicious close range hooks and I'm unable to quickly reposition. I think of fights as a range and angle chess match: my jab, straight rear and teeps are the same range; overhands, hooks, long knees, roundhouses are clustered together too; and at close range, elbows, hooks, side/straight knee, and clinch work. I have to learn two different sets of defensive techniques and have multiple guards, but I like the work and the artistry and the learning process of it all.
An excellent example is Gaolong from Kengan Ashura.
I went from Kickboxing to Krav Maga and it took me ages!!!! to adjust the mechanics. Pandemic shut Krav club down. And I have always wanted to do Muay Thai, which I start Tuesday hopefully! I personally wouldn't train two together. You'll end up getting caught in no mans land with stance and all sorts! Unless you're VERY good!
You seem good man. Have you been doing any sitting meditation? Or just physical awareness and nowness. I recommend Shinay. Peace ✌
I do boxing and Muay Thai tbh it’s very good together the kicking and endurance for Muay and the speed and exploding punches and the knee and elbows for Muay Thai it’s a W mix tbh
One of the greatest Canadian Kickboxers Pete Cunningham would train Boxing in the morning and Kickboxing in the afternoon at the Jet Center.
Can you make a video commenting about Superlek Vs Sangarthitt boxing sparring footage?
I wanted to try and learn some boxing along with what I’m doing with Muay Thai right now. But I’m also doing bjj at the same time. How should I go about setting up my schedule to do it all?
For me my Kickboxing coach runs the boxing classes so I just train boxing while actively adapting it for Muay Thai XD
Actually is not bad , it's only that it depend to have good stance for what rule your fitting.
That's why I do boxing on Mondays MMA on Tuesday, Wednesdays, and Thursdays, which are muay thai, bjj, and wrestling, and on friday, i do kickboxing so tbh I say my artillery is good
Giorgio petroysan is one of the best examples of combining the distance management of Muay Thai with the combinations of boxing.
petrosyan it's a great muay thai fighter and he develop his distance management in muay thai not boxing, also he has great punches combination because he is a muay mat fighter and that's just a muay thai style. he didn't invent a new style or something.
@@Tungsten-le1wy Petrosyan is more of Muay Bok than a Muay Mat. Also, the western style of Muay Thai emphasize the hands more.
@@AroundElvesWatchUrselves96 muay mat emphasize the punches too, but petrosyan can be very technical too like a femur .muay thai perfection, he is amazing, there is a reason why he is considered the goat of kickboxing, and he doesn't get enough merit for that
There's a guy in Aussie rules football who is your doppleganger called jack riewoldt
I've recently ventured from muay thai to mma, naturally I spar really well in the "striking" sessions which is basically kickboxing/muay thai....but when we do boxing I get so so so confused man 🤣🤣🤣
Ive been doing boxing on and off 2 years but the last 4-5 monthd ive been committed and taking it a lot more serious try and go 5 days aweek to the gym. I eventually wanna throw in some Muy Tai but boxing forsure is my base.
I feel it will be very hard to break my stance, is it still possible to get effective results without using a more traditional tai stance. I like being light on my feet and having that bounce and agility. I know muy tai is a lot heavier on the feet because of kicks and being more grounded.
I can probably break slips and roles a lot easier than movement. Any advice is appreciated.
Depends how intelligent in the ring you are imo if you can understand how to blend the two styles to benefit you go for it if you can only do one or the other don’t try to do so
imo you only need to train more than one striking martial art if you are planning on becoming a pro mma fighter. besides that you would probably be better with one of them. if you really want to incorporate a second martial art then it would be extremely more beneficial to pick something like bjj or wrestling. a second striking art like boxing will just patch a small hole in your muay thai game whereas grappling will add a whole new world to your fighting. i'd go muay thai and nogi bjj as my first option and boxing and wrestling as my second.
Can we get a video on Alex Periera’s style of guard? I find myself holding my hands like he does when sparring and I’m trying to correct that and keep them up by my cheeks but I’m curious as to why his guard works for him.
Probably works for him because of his height
Cause he’s so tall an he’s willing to take one to hit u w his power shots so kinda a lure
I've recently watching anime kengan ashura
One of the fighter Kaolan from Thailand did using Muay Thai and Boxing together
So that's why I've been looking for the idea of combining the two fighting style and end up here😂
🤔 boxing+Muay Thai+taekwondo I’ll basically be registered as a deadly weapon
I’m in a unique situation, where I train at a boxing gym that has Muay Thai training on the side as a secondary thing. After about six months of training exclusively Muay Thai, I got absolutely SMOKED by one of the boxing coaches who visited our sparring session. Ever since, I’ve been doing boxing and Muay Thai drilling and Sparring half and half. Here’s some improvements I’ve gain d since doing both.
1.) while the head movement is not as useful, I think Boxing’s bigger emphasis on staying off the center line was important eye opener for me. It’ll be a lil different cuz of kicks ofc but a lot of guys at my experience level who only do Muay Thai aren’t nearly as familiar with how center line and angles work, and it’ll give you an edge if you know how to abuse that.
2.) I’m way less reliant on my rear roundhouse kick. My left roundhouse kick (I’m southpaw) was my “money” shot and everything I did was mostly setting that up to hit clean. When it was taken from me in boxing I had no idea what to do, and just jabbed a lot. Now I’m way more comfortable doing stuff like setting up a powerful left cross or left uppercut, as well as setting up a left roundhouse kick.
3.) Conditioning. A lot of Muay Thai fighters spar at a low intensity and a low pace. Boxers tend to go harder and go a lot faster too. Learning how to keep up with a boxer pace makes you more prepared for a fight I feel. And you’ll find yourself able to disrupt the temp of Muay Thai purists a lot easier.
Bonus: I’m a heavier guy. Muay Thai is a smaller sport so it can be much harder to find guys 200 pounds or more to have even rounds with. I’m 6’2, 210 lbs, and a southpaw, so Muay Thai sparring was a lil bit easier than it should be, and I had little hard sparring experience cuz I didn’t want to hurt my much smaller partners at the gym. It’s much easier to find sizable sparring partners to have proper hard rounds with in boxing. That alone is making me contemplate switching sports ngl lol.
How is muay thai tempo slower? If you're talking about the first two rounds maybe yes but usually the third and fourth round in muay thai are total war
@@ancientdarkness3102 he’s talking about sparring. Muay Thai/kickboxers don’t spar at the same intensity as boxers. That’s because if they did their bodies would get too worn down. Wheres in boxing there’s not the same toil on the body.
I just started Muay Thai, I have a similar body composition as Tyson, short, stocky, wide shoulders, big thighs… just smaller than Mike…. Should I learn peekaboo style boxing in Muay Thai?
You seem good man. Have you being doing any sitting meditation? Rather than physical nowness?
Meditation in Action
I recommend Shinay meditation
I have a similar combination question: is combining K1-style kickboxing and MT a good idea? During school year I train kickboxing in college town but during summer holiday I'm back in hometown and there's no kickboxing there. I still have to do something tho and I have the opportunity to either train Muay Thai or boxing. Which one would be the better idea? Personally Muay Thai intrigues me a bit more but there're a crapload of tehcniques there I won't be allowed to use in kickboxing sparring.
Everyone in the comments here is saying how starting boxing gave them the advantage when transitioning to Muay Thai. And i think they have a point , Boxing sparring pace , vs kickboxing or muay thai pace , speically amatuer boxing pace is a lot different. Boxing sparring pace is insanely fast and intense it will transfer well into kickboxing , minus the headmovement cause of the headkicks carefull with that
Dutch kickboxing is a blend of Karate, boxing and Muay Thai. Look up Ramon Dekkers he was a Dutch kickboxer. He went to Thailand and absolutely dominated. The Thais had to change their style to beat him
How many days a week you recommend training at 42 ? 4 to 5 days a week is that good or 3 ?
I find boxing is a fantastic supplement for Muay Thai, while Muay Thai kinda' adds nothing to boxing (except maybe conditioning for taking much harder blows to the body from kicks?).
If you do lets say, 30 min of straight clinch work, why not do straight boxing or just kicking? Makes training different and more challenging
Is it better Taelwondo and Boxing?
Boxing + Mauy Thai + Judo = Ultimate Set up in my opinion
Perfect for mma tbh since Judo has grappling as well
Hey, I live about 45 minutes from Stephen Wonderboy Thompsons gym as well as a high level Boxing coach. I really want to do both and combine Karate and Dirty Boxing, Should i do both or focus on one?
Im also saving up to go to a college that will hopefully have a Wrestling team and im about 45 minutes away from a 10th Plant gym that has alot of high level wrestlers that i also want to train at to prepare for college Wrestling, is it a good idea to throw that in there 2x a week?
What about boxing w karate or kickboxing w karate ?
The problem seems to be people don't understand the different styles of muay thai look up Muay Mat style fighters.
Boxing and Muay Thai then Wrestling and BJJ
Man I sound like a due Robot 😁
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Doing Boxing first then Muay Thai is excellent, and doing Judo before Wrestling is scary
If I am a Muay Thai fighter, should I practice boxing in Muay Thai style or boxing style?
who need boxing when you have muay thai?, all the boxing is legal in muay thai and we share a lot of techniques and movements, going to a boxing gym is redundant and not necessary if you find a legit muay thai gym. And you can create really bad habit in boxing.
in my muay thai gym we do punching rounds or punching with clinching rounds and when i train my hands and foot work , is with the purpose of improve in the art of eight limbs , i don't want to be a boxer even if i can, because my hands are amazing
I tend to disagree.
Not good mixing the two styles, unless you are on a very high competitive level.
They are very distinctive, the habits from MT will disadvantage you in boxing and vice versa.
you know,they have other stance
boxer's stance is more wide than muaythai stance
although they have punch skill, really differnt sports
so unless you wanna be mma fighter, you had better focus on one
boxer turned muaythai then mma. In my fights, majority of the things i used from muay thai was to defend kicks, but my hands would get the win each time
Boxing has a lot of body punches esp for shorter fighters, infighting which cant use effectively in muay thai as u might get knee or clinched. Muay thai stance cant punch heavily as compared to boxing but mt has elbows which most gyms dont encourage using unless for pro fighters training for pro match.
Tall fighters has alot of advantage in mt. Knees, elbows, clinch, high kicks and most of the technique is gear to more taller longer reach fighters advantage. Shorter fighters can win but must be aggressive which also need to use boxing to knock out tallers fighters. Shorter fighters with good technique need to learn from very young like saechai in particular.
For boxing wise not really, shorter fighters still has their own strategy to beat taller fighters esp using infighting or speed.
who need boxing when you have muay thai?, all the boxing is legal in muay thai and we share a lot of techniques and movements, going to a boxing gym is redundant and not necessary if you find a legit muay thai gym. And you can create really bad habit in boxing.
in my muay thai gym we do punching rounds or punching with clinching rounds and when i train my hands and foot work , is with the purpose of improve in the art of eight limbs , i don't want to be a boxer even if I could do it, because my hands are amazing.
@bo xer What the fuck are you talking about?
Stfu you know that a japanese guy like rokiya anpo fared againts buakaw right so boxing is helpful moron theres a reason why rokiya have more strikes than buakaw when they fought,and i can name individuals who box and at the same time compete in glory kickboxing and this guys would sestroy and eat your buakaw or saenchai😂😂 look at cedrick doumbe,arthrm vakhitov,alex pereira,robin van roosmalen,and lastly melvin manheof this guys would kill your so called muaythai champion if a national level guy like rokiya anpo manage to faired againts buakaw imagine what would a glory kickboxer like cedric doumbe would do to him who not only has insane kicks but a powerful right hook aswell that would take even a dude bigger than his size😂😂😂😂🎉🎉
I want to learn both boxing and Muay Thai. Which should I start first? I have no experience in either.
Muay Thai
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If your goal is Muay Thai then just do Muay Thai because punching in boxing is different. If your goal is mma then definetely.
Sparring muay Thai guys, the most threatening thing has been the throws. Boxing has me prepared to dodge elbows, but absolutely no defence against the muay Thai clinch work.
Don’t most Thai fighters train in boxing as well, I also want to see a video on combing Karate with boxing and Muay Thai.
I find really difficult to throw punches from the muay thai guard. I can't generate enough power
I’m the same bro. I feel like my punches are soft af in my Muay Thai stance but in a boxing stance I can generate a lot more power as I’m able to pivot more.
My Muay Thai gym has boxing classes too so I’m thinking I might take up a couple boxing classes a week too but adapt the training to benefit my Muay Thai more
@@Jafoolmyturtle You'll do the correct process. All Muay Thai practitioners that starts in K1, GLORY, MMA, etc. usually take boxing lessons.
Watch Kaolan vs Agito in Kegan Ashura, thank me later