Yanagi now is more like an upgrade. You can still actually use On-field Anomaly that’s available now like Grace and Piper or even Jane for disorder oriented team and it still can works on clearing end game content. Burnice is now the only off-field anomaly which none can be substitute for her ability to do off-field anomaly, i guess she’s more better investment.
Frankly its hard to say because it comes down to one simple fact. Is Hoyo going to make more on field Anomaly units or more off field? Depending on which one gets the priority will mark the better of the two. But if you ask me, its far likelier we get more on field dps Anomaly than off field, so Burnice will probably last longer since she needs next to no field time.
It seems like a nahility type situation, anomaly units can be either dps or debuffing sub dps as stated in the class type, I hope we get more debuffing anomaly’s and they take a break from the dps ones.
Any future fire or ether dps lean into a sub-dps role rather than main because of dot style anomaly. Yanagi's disorder multiplier increase will make swapping between those characters every 3-5 seconds (and the support) relevant. In this sense Yanagi has a significantly harder to replace role than Burnice because she doesn't outright get crept by on field anomaly.
@CombatPandaZenlessZoneZero On the other hand how many players want to be constantly swapping between units every 3-5 seconds? We already see the complaints against Rina for her short uptime and need to swap in and out constantly. This is why a unit like Burnice is so valuable. You get all the benefits with next to none of the field time required.
I would say Burnice any day, as a player from day one and even experiencing teams with Caesar too, it feels like heaven having her on my side and my performance increased like 200% she makes things very fun and also the most important part it HELPS a lot even with (me) skill issue, I don't need to try hard to clear all the floors even when my carry is an A rank, her compatibility with Piper is S tier. Speaking of compatibility, It would be fun to make a video about non standard teams, in today's shiyu def the recommended team was electro but I don't like the current electro units beside Qingyi so I tried Qingyi with Ellen AND Lycaon and you know what? it was surprisingly very fun to punish the enemies with all that daze and the 3 passive bonuses activated, in fact the bonus of those 3 is almost like an entire fourth support character off field and also YES I don't like playing with Soukaku either lol. I was able to clear the last floors relatively easily like that even if I'm not playing as intended but just playing with characters I like and work together surprisingly well
Yanagi looks very strong and fun. I think she holds good value if you are looking for an electric main dps outside of Grace and she seems like she can fill a sub ops role as well especially with the ultimate quick assist. Burnice has more of a supportive role, but she can deal great damage as a main ops with Lucy and another unit like Piper, Seth or Caesar.😄
possible future issue with yanagi as electric character, is in 2.1 we will likely get ZZZ raiden. raiden will be OP as usual, if zzz raiden is off field + energy support like in genshin then it's W for yanagi. but if she's a main dps like in HSR, then it's huge L for yanagi.
burnice also has her own issue, there will most likely be another off-fielder with electric element very soon due to the new off-field fire and electric focus discs. right now burnice main weakness is in wave enemies, she needs to reapply burn to enemy and she does't have any utility (buff/debuff). if future electric has off field ability that doesn't need to be reapply to new waves of enemy, and also does utility then burnice will take huge L.
@@someoneinasia Yeah...the chaos Jazz was probably intended for Yanagi because of the way disorder works. Yanagi on field for 5 seconds, Burnice on field for 3-4, support on field for 1-2. Chaos Jazz always active, near max disorder value
@@someoneinasia Sorry to bust your bubble but the devs have already said they won't add any characters from their other games such as Raiden iirc so ZZZ is going to be its own IP with its own characters
I think one of the most important considerations is actually the A ranks, Burnice has a LOT more value alongside Nicole and Lucy being the rate ups. I managed to get BOTH from M1-2 to 6 pulling Burnice to pity and 1 extra 10 pull Yanagi has .... Billy and Anby who are "Only ok" if im being nice
If u have Jane or Grace, Yanagi is definitely better off pulling on a rerun and Burnice is the better pick. But if u don’t have them then going for her isn’t a bad choice especially if u also have Rina to boost shock. Ofc having Burnice with Yanagi is also an amazing team, but also expensive. Honestly if u don’t plan to build anomaly teams in the future then I would just skip both, but if u do want to start but don’t have any S rank anomaly units then both of them is a good pick. (Little more on the Burnice for future proofing). So final verdict is PULL WHO U WANT TO PLAY, all this is just a technical stand point.
Same but still going for burnice, never know might end up getting yanagi via luck on 1st 10 pulls which I doubt cause that haven't happen yet in this game or lately in honkai
I really dig lighter design but i really HATE his gameplay. So simple and so generic i really like his design tho. What i hate is that U HAVE THE CONCEPT OF GAMEPLAY in the goddamn story when lighter just uppercut follow up people to help u in the fight AND I THOUGHT HE GOING TO BE LIKE THAT when i see the gameplay i was so mad -,- he so bland and just punch2 like a brute.
This sucks, i really really want yanagi badly, i love her playstyle alot, plus i really enjoy the hypercarry anomaly dps she and jane have, but her being pretty dependent on burnice hurts, i def cant afford both, i think unfortunately ill have to skip her, esp if i wanna make sure I still have the resources to pull miybai is obviously around the corner next
i like yanagi too but her animation locked behind m2 and i already didnt invest in an anomaly so ig uess i skip her and just save for limited support ever since i lost 5050 on caeasr unfortunate booba gooner game trying to tempt me but oh well
I got burnice, i do think her role is gonna be more valuable and future-proof. I also alr have ellen and jane as limited dps and had enough bad luck on 50/50 having also MC 2 Grace Lmao. So Yanagi really feels like something I shouldnt go for (even if i still hadnt pull for burnice, much less now). Just hope shes not somehow necessary if i want to do a team more centered in section 6 characters in the future. Whats your thoughts? I do however think her gameplay is rly cool. Ill probably do 10-20 pulls and if i get her thats win, if not thats also not to bad, building pity.
We are in the same boat. Ellen ZhuYuan and Jane team now making hard decision to go for Burnice or Yanagi while Miyabi is a must I got Grace at M1S1 too. Please let me know either you go for Burnice or Yanagi
@@thepolygon17 i got burnice, fairly ez decision. What im really asking myself now is: should i go for lighter after or not. Ig depends on when miyabi will be released
Yanagi full potential is not to pair her with Burnice actually, it's to pair her with next Ether Character that can be act as off field anomaly support, that's when maximum damage of disorder can be reached
holy shit my brother in arms. M1 S11 been with me since the start😂😂. Only won a SINGLE 50/50 and it was for qingyi, couldnt get jane on her guaranteed cause i was just 20 pulls short😔😔
my account 2 most invested dps are jane and M2 nekomata. which is why i lean towards yanagi more than burnice i need an on field dps character that have different element. but versatile enough in case i want to play yanagi with jane.
Apparently, they locked a lot of Yanagi m0 stuff behind other Mindscapes now, so its a yikes. Might still go for M0 unless Miyabi is also Anomaly in which case I’ll go for Miyabi.
I've been unusually lucky and pulled Jane Ceasar and Burnice. Shortly after Burnice, I pulled Neko unexpectedly at 30 pity. Now I'm on guarantee with a need for an electric dps. She's looking very tempting.
that's easy there are only 1 character of this in anomaly indipendent and it is yanagi , Solo disorder ? I'm sold . Burnice have many replacements in mono fire team (lucy , koleda ecc..ecc) and for other team u can simply using seth as replacements . At this moment the only one dps electro is grace and it is luck based having Grace. Plus i don't think burnice will be eternal . 2-3 . Burnice is overvaluted by the people.
My ultimate question is: can she play alongside Miyabi? If not, then I have to skip. I'm sure Miyabi is gonna be on field dps, and that's why if Yanagi is a main on field dps, I can't pull for her.
Unless i misunderstood, you may want to correction pin your mistake at the end. I think you meant to say Burnice wins the F2P Potential section, but you said Yanagi... 🤔
For my acc I'm looking electric dps either Yanagi/Harumasa. Anton seem lackluster and Grace more like 90% phys 10% electric. Harumasa kit seems like Childe in Genshin where he has dual stance combat which I dislike. Hence, pulling for Yanagi 🤟
I already wanted Yanagi no matter what, but my lack of Ellen, Zhu Yuan, Qingyi, and Jane makes me NEED Yanagi even more to give me an incredible main DPS and better coverage. I’d otherwise have to build Anton which wouldn’t necessarily mind, but god damn I want and need Yanagi so bad, she’s so strong. Skipping Burnice to save up for M0W1 Yanagi
I think he could’ve used better names too but I’m pretty sure he was getting at that: For future value, Yanagi is more likely to benefit more from potential future ally buffs making her damage ceiling higher. For potential, Burnice is better because she’ll slot into more teams because of her off field play style while Yanagi would fight for the on field position
Ya it's very confusing in this video since both are very similar in what they are unlike if he was comparing a dps vs a stunner for example. But usually to me from his other videos future value is how the character can benefit furture teams and potential is how future teams can benefit the character. Honestly think he should just change his titling for those sections.
Both are having different role , yanagi is on field anamoly DPS while burnice is an off field sub DPS. For future value sure both are having the future value but I believe burnice will shine more as more DPS attackers will be coming and she is good from now.
If you want one in between Yanagi and Burnice, I would say Burnice could help you much more as you have Piper to team her up with for the disorder team and a wide array of supports that go excellent with them both.
Lost Burnice 50/50 to Nekomata, plus I have Ellen Jane & Soldier 11 so I’ll be saving up for Miyabi + her weapon. But good luck to those pulling for Yanagi
Burnice, i really hate lighter playstyle.... He just punch2 ora3 like a brute... they literally have the concept gameplay in the goddamn story when he follow up uppercut people off field and that is soo cool... But they decide to go generic path -,-
I've got no choice I have to skip this entire patch plus owning Grace and Koleda so I have those slots filled. I know they'll be an upgrade but it'll take you 500,000 denny's just to make them functional a million plus to get them caught up to the existing roster you already have. The game doesn't give enough for me to expand further plus it's time for me to get skills, the passives and weapons maxed or higher leveled. I've spent over 300,000 denny's just in the last 2 days I'm broke lol
If Myabi is anomaly, im pulling for Lighter and Myabi, cause i think they will do good with Burnice. If Myabi is attacker... then i might pull for Yanagi and see where it goes...
i think most people, even f2p, should have enough to be able to get both Burnice and Yanagi back to back. the thing that is making us choose one of the 2 is that there is someone called miyabi VERY likely coming out in 1.4 lmao 😭🤣
Me just waiting for when banners reroll because I just want a shot at Zhu Yuan (I didn't start playing till October and all my attempted Burnice rolls went into maxxing out Nicole unintentionally):
i will get BOTH BOTH is good already have Burnice and her Sig got luck i got Burnice 20th pull and her Sig on 55th pull so i have a lot of pulls left currently have 110 pulls
I still have 180 pulls and damn I was lucky didn't lose any 50/50 so far after playing zzz, 4 banner repeat without losing 50/50 Gotta spin for yanagi because I only started playing after gingyi missed ellen and zhuyan
I'd pull yanagi if she wasn't right after burnice. Her kit looks very fun but come on we don't have enough time to save. I'm sacred that them pushing anomaly really hard right now means it's going to be powercrept in the future. But they would need to release really good dps because my almost maxed out zhu yuan doesn't come close to my Jane burnice team
You compare the electric coverage for Yanagi but for Burnice you target her unique kit specifically so I say is clear this is a slightly biased comparison.
investment means nothing to players like me who can clear all contents with A ranks. I will continue to pull characters I love and skip those I don't even if they are meta.
GRACE IS SOOO GOOD WITH BURNICE. the gameplay is superb and satisfying with grace being onfield and burnice being off field with sett. I got grace m1 tho making the energy regen really good and the team is really solid and fast paced like jane. Edit : OH YEAH THE DAMAGE IS NUTTY AS WELL WITH 100K+ DISORDER AND EASY TO PROC
i think harumasa will be an electro support too haha we're due for a limited support and it makes sense to powercreep rina since koleda and grace both have their counterparts at this point
Comparing them is stupid, they both are the best in their respective elemental dmg classes, you cant take yanagi vs shock resistant enemies and expect to do well lmao no matter how hard u hit, that dmg resistance will screw ur precious yanagi build, the same goes for burnice of course.
I will be frank. I don't believe Burnice's character archetype can function in the long term in this particular game, since your team is composed of only 3 units. Burnice does not grant any level of supportability (e.g. Lucy) to increase the team's damage, meaning that the moment a support who can build up anomaly easily shows up, Burnice is thrown away. I've been doing disorder teams since the beginning of the game with Grace, and I skipped Burnice because my tests did not show any real improvement when comparing with Nicole in the same slot. If I'm not mistaken, Burnice takes away control from your ability of when you want to disorder, and that's very important when it comes to burst damage and disorder manipulation. Despite having Grace heavily invested, Yanagi still seems like a better choice, even though Burnice fits into my team like a glove. I was anticipating her arrival for a long time, and I can pull her at this very moment, I am choosing not to because I don't see her lasting very long at all. At the moment, my Grace can do over 1M damage disorders, which is a far higher number than I am able to achieve with Burnice. Once a new support comes out, they can replace, and further improve, this playstyle. Still, I find pulling any character at this moment to be a potentially suspicious idea until we know more about Miyabi. We're reaching 1.4, the usual big powercreep patch (hmm, Ice character who is the leader of a faction coming in 1.4, where have I seen that before?), and the game is far too easy even for A rank characters, seen as I am currently working on a Shiyu Defense clear under 2 minutes on a F2P account with Grace and Piper as carries. Keep in mind, a clear under 2 minutes with the only limited unit being Caesar is very much overkill, and I don't see it always being that way, Yanagi being able to do substantial damage in comparison to what we've had before is, at the very least, a warning to what may be yet to come. So, if anyone has made it this far, and if you find my words to be worth anything, I recommend patience once 1.3 drops :) Unless you want to pull for your favorite character, then you can ignore everything I've said. As for Burnice, for everyone who pulled her, I really do hope I'm wrong, so I can pull her later myself. Have a great day! :)
@noiro2342 No, after all, I am F2P. It would have been pretty insane if I did :) She is M0. However, I do have Grace's S1, and my Rina is M1S1, and both of these obviously help. Also, we currently have a very strong anomaly buff in Shiyu Defense, which helps in achieving these high numbers.
Isn't the irony that Burnice is the perfect companion to Yanagi? Considering Yanagi wants to be on-field a lot, having Burnice with her off-field anomaly is way better than Jane who also wants on-field, or Piper who's also heavily on-field. And Grace doesn't even count because same element and you need that disorder. They should have released the bow character from the squad this time, and had Yanagi release alongside Miyabi. To space them out a bit so that people who wanna invest fully in anomaly can do so.
they're just being greedy atp, all back to back banners synergies. whats more is that there are enemies that has fire weakness but electric resistant makes you want to pull for future agents to have that bis team.
I do wish they spaced her out a little bit more, I like her playstyle, team comps with Burnice and Rina and she's basically Lightening Jane which is nice. If they didn't have 3 anomalies back to back I'd definitely pull to swap between her and Jane on the Burince team. But oh well! If she's still good by her rerun she'll be a must pull more me!
He didnt miss any points lol, Burnice IS currently the only one that does what she does period. This is a gacha game.. so obviously there will be more characters in the future who are similiar to her if not better. I dont know where you got "the idea" from but maybe you should watch the video first and listen to what he says😅 worst case scenario: you will see any similiar agents like Burnice or Burnice rerun in 6+ months lol
Her badass hold ex special ability to juggle enemy back to back is locked behind M2 now so you may want to get M2 to feel like she have a complete kit gameplay wise. Dick move by hoyov
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Yanagi now is more like an upgrade. You can still actually use On-field Anomaly that’s available now like Grace and Piper or even Jane for disorder oriented team and it still can works on clearing end game content.
Burnice is now the only off-field anomaly which none can be substitute for her ability to do off-field anomaly, i guess she’s more better investment.
Frankly its hard to say because it comes down to one simple fact.
Is Hoyo going to make more on field Anomaly units or more off field? Depending on which one gets the priority will mark the better of the two.
But if you ask me, its far likelier we get more on field dps Anomaly than off field, so Burnice will probably last longer since she needs next to no field time.
Cause on field always more tempting for player to pull, the aesthetic factor plays a really big role for it.
It seems like a nahility type situation, anomaly units can be either dps or debuffing sub dps as stated in the class type, I hope we get more debuffing anomaly’s and they take a break from the dps ones.
Any future fire or ether dps lean into a sub-dps role rather than main because of dot style anomaly. Yanagi's disorder multiplier increase will make swapping between those characters every 3-5 seconds (and the support) relevant. In this sense Yanagi has a significantly harder to replace role than Burnice because she doesn't outright get crept by on field anomaly.
@CombatPandaZenlessZoneZero On the other hand how many players want to be constantly swapping between units every 3-5 seconds? We already see the complaints against Rina for her short uptime and need to swap in and out constantly. This is why a unit like Burnice is so valuable. You get all the benefits with next to none of the field time required.
That's true, one thing most people do say is if you don't like a character (or their playstyle) don't pull them and that is applicable here.
I would say Burnice any day, as a player from day one and even experiencing teams with Caesar too, it feels like heaven having her on my side and my performance increased like 200% she makes things very fun and also the most important part it HELPS a lot even with (me) skill issue, I don't need to try hard to clear all the floors even when my carry is an A rank, her compatibility with Piper is S tier.
Speaking of compatibility, It would be fun to make a video about non standard teams, in today's shiyu def the recommended team was electro but I don't like the current electro units beside Qingyi so I tried Qingyi with Ellen AND Lycaon and you know what? it was surprisingly very fun to punish the enemies with all that daze and the 3 passive bonuses activated, in fact the bonus of those 3 is almost like an entire fourth support character off field and also YES I don't like playing with Soukaku either lol.
I was able to clear the last floors relatively easily like that even if I'm not playing as intended but just playing with characters I like and work together surprisingly well
Yanagi looks very strong and fun. I think she holds good value if you are looking for an electric main dps outside of Grace and she seems like she can fill a sub ops role as well especially with the ultimate quick assist. Burnice has more of a supportive role, but she can deal great damage as a main ops with Lucy and another unit like Piper, Seth or Caesar.😄
possible future issue with yanagi as electric character, is in 2.1 we will likely get ZZZ raiden.
raiden will be OP as usual,
if zzz raiden is off field + energy support like in genshin then it's W for yanagi.
but if she's a main dps like in HSR, then it's huge L for yanagi.
burnice also has her own issue, there will most likely be another off-fielder with electric element very soon due to the new off-field fire and electric focus discs.
right now burnice main weakness is in wave enemies, she needs to reapply burn to enemy and she does't have any utility (buff/debuff). if future electric has off field ability that doesn't need to be reapply to new waves of enemy, and also does utility then burnice will take huge L.
@@someoneinasia Yeah...the chaos Jazz was probably intended for Yanagi because of the way disorder works. Yanagi on field for 5 seconds, Burnice on field for 3-4, support on field for 1-2. Chaos Jazz always active, near max disorder value
@@someoneinasia Sorry to bust your bubble but the devs have already said they won't add any characters from their other games such as Raiden iirc so ZZZ is going to be its own IP with its own characters
@@RAJA_XYLO sorry to bust your imagination, but have you seen ZZZ story trailer? and you tell me you see no expy?
0:00 Current Value
3:15 Alternatives
5:34 Future Value
9:56 Potential
12:27 F2P Potential
13:46 Overall Opinion
I think one of the most important considerations is actually the A ranks, Burnice has a LOT more value alongside Nicole and Lucy being the rate ups.
I managed to get BOTH from M1-2 to 6 pulling Burnice to pity and 1 extra 10 pull
Yanagi has .... Billy and Anby who are "Only ok" if im being nice
If u have Jane or Grace, Yanagi is definitely better off pulling on a rerun and Burnice is the better pick. But if u don’t have them then going for her isn’t a bad choice especially if u also have Rina to boost shock. Ofc having Burnice with Yanagi is also an amazing team, but also expensive. Honestly if u don’t plan to build anomaly teams in the future then I would just skip both, but if u do want to start but don’t have any S rank anomaly units then both of them is a good pick. (Little more on the Burnice for future proofing). So final verdict is PULL WHO U WANT TO PLAY, all this is just a technical stand point.
Burnice: "You know I'm the real deal, what's left to say?"
11:42 good chuckle, thanks eod
Losing my 50/50 on burnice's banner, now saving up for my guaranteed yanagi, might as well snatch her w-engine while at it hehe
Same 😢
Lost as well but still got her xd, around 150 pulls invested
definitely recommend getting her wengine
Same but still going for burnice, never know might end up getting yanagi via luck on 1st 10 pulls which I doubt cause that haven't happen yet in this game or lately in honkai
@@Eduan_the_King same here brother now I am broke af 😂
the channel logo placement looks good 👍
Another excellent video made for all players
Already have Burnice, saving for Lighter. Just watching this to support, and to see what the argument is
I really dig lighter design but i really HATE his gameplay. So simple and so generic i really like his design tho. What i hate is that U HAVE THE CONCEPT OF GAMEPLAY in the goddamn story when lighter just uppercut follow up people to help u in the fight AND I THOUGHT HE GOING TO BE LIKE THAT when i see the gameplay i was so mad -,- he so bland and just punch2 like a brute.
@@drastia2246 im the opposite
I’m just gonna get Yanagi and wait for another anomaly off field in the future or Burnice rerun
i will just pull for everyone and see what i got with resource i have. cause i want them all.
congratulations you've beat the Hoyo-system. I admire your resolve to fuck it and ball🥹
on gacha game? very bad move
This sucks, i really really want yanagi badly, i love her playstyle alot, plus i really enjoy the hypercarry anomaly dps she and jane have, but her being pretty dependent on burnice hurts, i def cant afford both, i think unfortunately ill have to skip her, esp if i wanna make sure I still have the resources to pull miybai is obviously around the corner next
i like yanagi too but her animation locked behind m2 and i already didnt invest in an anomaly so ig uess i skip her and just save for limited support ever since i lost 5050 on caeasr unfortunate booba gooner game trying to tempt me but oh well
I got burnice, i do think her role is gonna be more valuable and future-proof. I also alr have ellen and jane as limited dps and had enough bad luck on 50/50 having also MC 2 Grace Lmao. So Yanagi really feels like something I shouldnt go for (even if i still hadnt pull for burnice, much less now). Just hope shes not somehow necessary if i want to do a team more centered in section 6 characters in the future. Whats your thoughts? I do however think her gameplay is rly cool. Ill probably do 10-20 pulls and if i get her thats win, if not thats also not to bad, building pity.
We are in the same boat. Ellen ZhuYuan and Jane team now making hard decision to go for Burnice or Yanagi while Miyabi is a must
I got Grace at M1S1 too. Please let me know either you go for Burnice or Yanagi
@@thepolygon17 i got burnice, fairly ez decision. What im really asking myself now is: should i go for lighter after or not. Ig depends on when miyabi will be released
Lol samee losing to grace m2 too but alr got ellen zhuyuan jane and caesar burnice
Yanagi full potential is not to pair her with Burnice actually, it's to pair her with next Ether Character that can be act as off field anomaly support, that's when maximum damage of disorder can be reached
@@antiv4l3nt At that you might as well skip her and wait for rerun until we get confirmation of said best pairing
I have yet to win a 50/50 in ZZZ so far. Only managed to pull Zhu Yuan and Caesar, but S11 is really holding it down.
where do you check your 50/50 wins or losses?
holy shit my brother in arms. M1 S11 been with me since the start😂😂. Only won a SINGLE 50/50 and it was for qingyi, couldnt get jane on her guaranteed cause i was just 20 pulls short😔😔
@@Sarrr1 Bruh I also M1 11 as well. She loves me.
how the hell do i have the same five stars as u and i lost 5050s for all the characters i pulled...if i get yanagi the curse will be over
I lost 5 in a row, one of them being an engine, too. I wanted to quit so badly. Feels like maybe 10 players max ever lost this hard.
Just won my 50/50 on Burnice's banner and here's hoping that Yanagi comes home as well. Currently have 4k polies and a dream 🤣
Burnice is 10x cuter so it should go without saying
my account 2 most invested dps are jane and M2 nekomata. which is why i lean towards yanagi more than burnice i need an on field dps character that have different element. but versatile enough in case i want to play yanagi with jane.
I like yanagi playstyle, i have a very well built rina, should i go with burnice or can i wait for another replacement to burnice ?
i think if you like yanagi you can pair yanagi and rina and then have another anomaly
Apparently, they locked a lot of Yanagi m0 stuff behind other Mindscapes now, so its a yikes. Might still go for M0 unless Miyabi is also Anomaly in which case I’ll go for Miyabi.
I've been unusually lucky and pulled Jane Ceasar and Burnice. Shortly after Burnice, I pulled Neko unexpectedly at 30 pity. Now I'm on guarantee with a need for an electric dps. She's looking very tempting.
that's easy there are only 1 character of this in anomaly indipendent and it is yanagi , Solo disorder ? I'm sold . Burnice have many replacements in mono fire team (lucy , koleda ecc..ecc) and for other team u can simply using seth as replacements . At this moment the only one dps electro is grace and it is luck based having Grace. Plus i don't think burnice will be eternal . 2-3 . Burnice is overvaluted by the people.
My ultimate question is: can she play alongside Miyabi? If not, then I have to skip. I'm sure Miyabi is gonna be on field dps, and that's why if Yanagi is a main on field dps, I can't pull for her.
Unless i misunderstood, you may want to correction pin your mistake at the end. I think you meant to say Burnice wins the F2P Potential section, but you said Yanagi... 🤔
Thanks for this vid
Edit just pulled Burnice Lol after watching this vid.
I guess Yanagi/Lighter rerun in the Future.
For my acc I'm looking electric dps either Yanagi/Harumasa. Anton seem lackluster and Grace more like 90% phys 10% electric. Harumasa kit seems like Childe in Genshin where he has dual stance combat which I dislike. Hence, pulling for Yanagi 🤟
I think Investment wise they both good it all really depends on what you need for your teams
Got Burnice, likely going for Yanagi because I like office ladies, but I would totally advise for Burnice if you had to pick one.
I already wanted Yanagi no matter what, but my lack of Ellen, Zhu Yuan, Qingyi, and Jane makes me NEED Yanagi even more to give me an incredible main DPS and better coverage. I’d otherwise have to build Anton which wouldn’t necessarily mind, but god damn I want and need Yanagi so bad, she’s so strong. Skipping Burnice to save up for M0W1 Yanagi
General question: what is the difference between future value and potential?
I think he could’ve used better names too but I’m pretty sure he was getting at that:
For future value, Yanagi is more likely to benefit more from potential future ally buffs making her damage ceiling higher.
For potential, Burnice is better because she’ll slot into more teams because of her off field play style while Yanagi would fight for the on field position
@ so future value is like personal potential while potential is like team potential?
Ya it's very confusing in this video since both are very similar in what they are unlike if he was comparing a dps vs a stunner for example. But usually to me from his other videos future value is how the character can benefit furture teams and potential is how future teams can benefit the character. Honestly think he should just change his titling for those sections.
@@gormleypeach5809 then I’d call it potential ceiling and team potential then
Both are having different role , yanagi is on field anamoly DPS while burnice is an off field sub DPS. For future value sure both are having the future value but I believe burnice will shine more as more DPS attackers will be coming and she is good from now.
I am a new player and I have Soldier 11, Rina, Caesar and a couple of mindscapes in Seth, Lucy, Nicole and Piper. Should I go for Yanagi or Burnice?
Just my opinion, but you might as well need a Lighter for your character roster. Good luck on whoever you pull for ✨🫡.
If you want one in between Yanagi and Burnice, I would say Burnice could help you much more as you have Piper to team her up with for the disorder team and a wide array of supports that go excellent with them both.
@@alejandrocarreon7321 thanks, maybe I should rather save for Lighter and build a proper fire team
@@Frou-hsr Good luck on your pulls ✨ Hope you enjoy the game 👍🏻🫡
once again im gonna pull one of them after miyabi drip marketing
Burnice is where it’s at! She’s my favorite so I’m biased AF lol
Lost Burnice 50/50 to Nekomata, plus I have Ellen Jane & Soldier 11 so I’ll be saving up for Miyabi + her weapon. But good luck to those pulling for Yanagi
Pull for Yanagi and hope Miyabi is an Ice Anomaly that synegizes with her
between Burnice and Lighter which would you choose?
Burnice, i really hate lighter playstyle.... He just punch2 ora3 like a brute... they literally have the concept gameplay in the goddamn story when he follow up uppercut people off field and that is soo cool... But they decide to go generic path -,-
"Hoyo makes sure every element has its day." Yeah... about that ice element in HSR....
I've got no choice I have to skip this entire patch plus owning Grace and Koleda so I have those slots filled. I know they'll be an upgrade but it'll take you 500,000 denny's just to make them functional a million plus to get them caught up to the existing roster you already have. The game doesn't give enough for me to expand further plus it's time for me to get skills, the passives and weapons maxed or higher leveled. I've spent over 300,000 denny's just in the last 2 days I'm broke lol
If Myabi is anomaly, im pulling for Lighter and Myabi, cause i think they will do good with Burnice. If Myabi is attacker... then i might pull for Yanagi and see where it goes...
i think most people, even f2p, should have enough to be able to get both Burnice and Yanagi back to back. the thing that is making us choose one of the 2 is that there is someone called miyabi VERY likely coming out in 1.4 lmao 😭🤣
Me just waiting for when banners reroll because I just want a shot at Zhu Yuan (I didn't start playing till October and all my attempted Burnice rolls went into maxxing out Nicole unintentionally):
Me, rolling for waifu reasons: "I see..."
i will get BOTH
BOTH is good
already have Burnice and her Sig
got luck i got Burnice 20th pull and her Sig on 55th pull so i have a lot of pulls left
currently have 110 pulls
I still have 180 pulls and damn I was lucky didn't lose any 50/50 so far after playing zzz, 4 banner repeat without losing 50/50
Gotta spin for yanagi because I only started playing after gingyi missed ellen and zhuyan
imma go with both
Watching this after i got burnice and her w-engine
Yanagi vs Lighter when 1.4 drip marketing drops 🙂
Normally I would say choose with your other head, but it might be difficult with these 2 characters
Do a jane vs yanagi dmg comparison too with eidolons
I'd pull yanagi if she wasn't right after burnice. Her kit looks very fun but come on we don't have enough time to save.
I'm sacred that them pushing anomaly really hard right now means it's going to be powercrept in the future. But they would need to release really good dps because my almost maxed out zhu yuan doesn't come close to my Jane burnice team
if i remember correctly, lighter banner comes before yanagi
Well… I went for M1 burnice, so yanagi will have to wait until her rerun.
Both both is good. Lol good stuff tho
They are like Kafka and Blackswan. Burnice apply burn and Yanagi triggers them
Burnice Burnice Burnice Burnice Burnice Burnice GO
You compare the electric coverage for Yanagi but for Burnice you target her unique kit specifically so I say is clear this is a slightly biased comparison.
investment means nothing to players like me who can clear all contents with A ranks. I will continue to pull characters I love and skip those I don't even if they are meta.
Grace not great, but enough to carry anomaly electric for a while, yanagi dont too necessary
GRACE IS SOOO GOOD WITH BURNICE. the gameplay is superb and satisfying with grace being onfield and burnice being off field with sett. I got grace m1 tho making the energy regen really good and the team is really solid and fast paced like jane.
Edit : OH YEAH THE DAMAGE IS NUTTY AS WELL WITH 100K+ DISORDER AND EASY TO PROC
I'm skipping her for Lighter fasho
I have M4 Zhu Yuan. Nothing else feels necessarily. 😂
Damn son 😧
except the upcoming tower that pretty need a lot of characters to survive
I don't need to survive when the enemies can barely spawn before their deaths. 😆
Yanagi is just like burnice in better
i think harumasa will be an electro support too haha we're due for a limited support and it makes sense to powercreep rina since koleda and grace both have their counterparts at this point
who's gonna tell him?
harumasa is attack my dude
@@Gravesaurus yeah i saw the leaks soon after. tragic haha i thought we'd have a chance at a healer support with the new tower mode
I think I'm skipping Burnice and Yanagi since I can't get both. x.x
That's how I feel tbh. But I really want the lightning element coverage and I prefer the anomaly playstyle
I think Yanagi x Miyabi synergy might work
90% of gamblers quit before a big win
Still a good choice, ice and ether anomaly is coming, tbh so far into the game there havent been any bad roll
@@cringemorecringe4549lmao! I wait until I can guarantee my pulls though. 😂
Please do the same but yanagi and miyabi
In the future
I don't have to choose because Burnice (an her W engine) decided to come home in 30 pulls.
Very nice. I hit early on Burnice engine but it was Nekomata's
They play togheter btw
I have a chance to get yanagi hope i can win the 50/50
Goodluck on ur pulls! And she's so hotttttt
I lose my 50/50 on Burnice 😪….
Nah I’d win I’m have both
Comparing them is stupid, they both are the best in their respective elemental dmg classes, you cant take yanagi vs shock resistant enemies and expect to do well lmao no matter how hard u hit, that dmg resistance will screw ur precious yanagi build, the same goes for burnice of course.
He's comparing them for people who can't pull for both. If you can pull both, then more power to you
what kind of thinking is this? not everyone can pull both of them so they need to choose one
I will be frank. I don't believe Burnice's character archetype can function in the long term in this particular game, since your team is composed of only 3 units. Burnice does not grant any level of supportability (e.g. Lucy) to increase the team's damage, meaning that the moment a support who can build up anomaly easily shows up, Burnice is thrown away. I've been doing disorder teams since the beginning of the game with Grace, and I skipped Burnice because my tests did not show any real improvement when comparing with Nicole in the same slot. If I'm not mistaken, Burnice takes away control from your ability of when you want to disorder, and that's very important when it comes to burst damage and disorder manipulation. Despite having Grace heavily invested, Yanagi still seems like a better choice, even though Burnice fits into my team like a glove.
I was anticipating her arrival for a long time, and I can pull her at this very moment, I am choosing not to because I don't see her lasting very long at all. At the moment, my Grace can do over 1M damage disorders, which is a far higher number than I am able to achieve with Burnice. Once a new support comes out, they can replace, and further improve, this playstyle. Still, I find pulling any character at this moment to be a potentially suspicious idea until we know more about Miyabi.
We're reaching 1.4, the usual big powercreep patch (hmm, Ice character who is the leader of a faction coming in 1.4, where have I seen that before?), and the game is far too easy even for A rank characters, seen as I am currently working on a Shiyu Defense clear under 2 minutes on a F2P account with Grace and Piper as carries. Keep in mind, a clear under 2 minutes with the only limited unit being Caesar is very much overkill, and I don't see it always being that way, Yanagi being able to do substantial damage in comparison to what we've had before is, at the very least, a warning to what may be yet to come.
So, if anyone has made it this far, and if you find my words to be worth anything, I recommend patience once 1.3 drops :) Unless you want to pull for your favorite character, then you can ignore everything I've said. As for Burnice, for everyone who pulled her, I really do hope I'm wrong, so I can pull her later myself. Have a great day! :)
How did you get 1M disorder with grace? M6 grace?
@noiro2342 No, after all, I am F2P. It would have been pretty insane if I did :) She is M0. However, I do have Grace's S1, and my Rina is M1S1, and both of these obviously help. Also, we currently have a very strong anomaly buff in Shiyu Defense, which helps in achieving these high numbers.
Isn't the irony that Burnice is the perfect companion to Yanagi? Considering Yanagi wants to be on-field a lot, having Burnice with her off-field anomaly is way better than Jane who also wants on-field, or Piper who's also heavily on-field. And Grace doesn't even count because same element and you need that disorder. They should have released the bow character from the squad this time, and had Yanagi release alongside Miyabi. To space them out a bit so that people who wanna invest fully in anomaly can do so.
they're just being greedy atp, all back to back banners synergies. whats more is that there are enemies that has fire weakness but electric resistant makes you want to pull for future agents to have that bis team.
I do wish they spaced her out a little bit more, I like her playstyle, team comps with Burnice and Rina and she's basically Lightening Jane which is nice. If they didn't have 3 anomalies back to back I'd definitely pull to swap between her and Jane on the Burince team. But oh well! If she's still good by her rerun she'll be a must pull more me!
@@gestily Good thing Shiyu Defense isn't mandatory right now, right?
You are missing one big point. The idea that Burnice will be the only off field element applier is shortsighted. There will be more in the future.
He didnt miss any points lol, Burnice IS currently the only one that does what she does period. This is a gacha game.. so obviously there will be more characters in the future who are similiar to her if not better. I dont know where you got "the idea" from but maybe you should watch the video first and listen to what he says😅
worst case scenario: you will see any similiar agents like Burnice or Burnice rerun in 6+ months lol
I can afford both as an f2p, and i even have ellen and zhu yuan. Hate me people.
I love you
Isn't burnice yanagi bis team? Why need to compare lol
for people who cant afford both??
@@bunnnielI mean you still need off field anomaly if you pull yanagi first anyway
@@bunnniel If they're that dependant on each other why not skip both? or just get who you like
Her badass hold ex special ability to juggle enemy back to back is locked behind M2 now so you may want to get M2 to feel like she have a complete kit gameplay wise. Dick move by hoyov