Family Tension Is On the Rise by Baby Sybil's Christening | Downton Abbey
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- Branson's brother Kieran visits Downton for little Sybil's Christening and provoques a really tense atmosphere in the Crawley family.
From season 3 episode 7: It's been a long time coming for Anna, but her patience is finally rewarded; elsewhere family members clash over the estate and the future.
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"Have you changed your pills?" I absolutely LOVE the jabs between Isobel and Violet.
Violet: Did you drink at luncheon?
Isobel: No I did not which you know since we were together.
Violet: Not the entire time.
They could have been killing it on the Vaudeville circuit, overshadowing Laurel & Hardy and pretty much every other comedy duo.
I love watching Isobel learn to fire back as the series progresses. xD
Robert liked it too from his face when she said it!
I almost snorted my coffee on that one.
“...No harm in [Edith] having some fun before she gets there (to her eventual place in the home)”; Granny giveth
“And another thing...perhaps she isn't cut out for domestic life”; and Granny taketh away.
Edith sigh after that was hilarious
I completely lost is dying of laughter especially after Edith’s reaction 🤣🤣🤣
She is the Queen of Shade. Hands down.
Honestly made me laugh out loud, thank you so much 😂😂
I also feel like that was her way of protecting Edith further- even if it did sound harsh for the times.
Many women their age found it hard to find partners after the war took a lot of the choices, so she was setting her up to continue working for as long as she chose without the famiily demanding she 'start being serious".
"No Mrs Hughes, for once I will hold my tounge." God bless you Carson.
The Dowager supporting Edith for a change, Mary supporting Tom, Tom praising Cora, and Carson praising Tom. This is truly the drama I love!
Except that Violet took away the compliment by implying that Edith was going to be an old maid.
Yeah with a back handed comment.
Implying she might aswell have a career because she will be stuck on
The shelf as a spinster.
I love Tom’s character development over the series. At the beginning, he was prejudiced against families like the Crawleys. But as the series progressed, he began to realize that they were humans as well with their own flaws, heartbreak, and experiences and it is much better to work with them than against them for a better society.
The reverse was true as well. Robert Crawley judged Tom Branson for both his politics and his position in English society, but over time and circumstance they learned to respect and even have father-son like affection for each other without either man changing their basic political views.
Basically Julian used his character to have the same effect on the viewership.
that´s what happens when you become an elitist
I wouldn't call Tom's view point of the Crawley family a form of Jealousy just that he didn't approve of the Great Separation between the Upper and Lower classes. He was/is a Socialist to his bones. His view point didn't change per say over time just a bit more tolerant to Both sides. He doesn't Hate anyone as he has stated on multiple occasions. He's just someone who would Not bow to the King (Watch the Downton Abbey Movie) or turn his Nose up to the working/lower class. He doesn't give himself airs and Grace's he has No Right to. In his heart he Loyal to the family because of his Love for Sybil and Sybiee. 💜
@wings of a butterfly To quote Tom Branson, "You have a very narrow view of socialism."
Did anyone notice when Tom was talking to his brother I could sense his accent getting a wee bit thicker? Especially when it look like he was getting kind of mad at him.
Ya that happens sometimes, I’m Irish and when I’m angry my accent gets a lot thicker
As a Southern American my accent gets incredibly thick when im mad or drunk.
I get my mother’s accent when angry...despite the fact I was raised in the south and she was raised in Long Island...
Must be an accent thing 😂- as an american southerner my north georgia accent gets thick if i’m annoyed or indignant about something
@@lucycoakley9593 That’s so interesting that you pick that up about yourself. I’m from the US (the South) but I have a sort of weird hybrid accent going on because I studied so many languages. Haha.
01:15-Oh,Granny. Thank you!
01:27-Well,that was nice,for a second.
Lmao.
Mary: You can see your room and get changed..... if you want to.
Mary has progressed so much. Invites the brother in law to dinner but also sensitive to his lack of attire.
Like how Branson acted here.
Tom's eyes got scary when he told his brother that one, he wasnt putting on airs, and the staff knew it, and two, he was not in the mood to be trifled with.
He's being remarkably unsympathetic to his brother who, you know, just lost his wife.
This is the reason I think his trying to make a stand for his own beliefs, which I actually respect because revolution doesn’t happen when people make other people comfortable all the time, not an effective time. But the truth is that the aristocracy of England was very much in collusion with a pressing Ireland in quite brutal ways.
Good point 🤔🇮🇪
Carson was right and Tom handled that well:) He is damn well not to good for the staff but he is also damn well not going to allow his brother to disrespect and insult the family of the house in their own damn house, especially when they are doing the best they can to be accommodating.
I don't think we have ever seen him give them a reason to think that though.
One of my favorite scenes. Yay Tom!
Exactly, SerenityAlways!
@@ratso4443 well said Tom
Only way to improve toms dressing down his brother would be to say if their mother was there, she'd box his ears and drag him up the stairs for his behavior.
To be honest, Tom's brother was exceptionally rude in this scene.
he was offended on how UK treated his country
@@tobiassanchez455 Yes we know..... and yet he was living in Liverpool instead of Dublin, Cork, or some other Irish city.... Maybe it had less to do with politics and more to do with class structure. Just a thought.
Whatever might be the reason but there is time and place for every argument and this was certainly not the place or time for him to argue.
He was invited as a guest by his brother's in-law's for his niece christening as her to be godfather but this guy decided to act like condensing jerk to everyone in this holy event to prove himself as a rebel political activist infront of everyone.
@@cheetahman859 Yes, but it would have been the same british aritsocracy in Dublin or Cork. Just a thought.
@@tobiassanchez455 imagine someone coming to your home at your dinner table and being this disrespectful!
It’s not his views, it’s the way his expresses them that’s incredibly rude.
Funny how Tom's brother is such a snob. Judging his sister-in-laws family so harshly when most uppercrust families would have forbidden Sybil and Tom's marriage in the first place. Tom's character was spot on in putting his brother in his place.
The family could not forbid the marriage, all they could do is cut her off, which Robert was going to do. Since Sybil didn't care about the money or status, they had no leverage over her.
Snobbishness runs on both sides of the family. Just as aristocrats like violet would look down on people like Tom. Tom also used to hate aristocrats. He used to hate wearing morning coats and formal wear and saw them as the uniform of oppression. Sybil and her death as well as coming to live with them changed him but not completely. The family grew fond of him and more open minded. And Tom grew more tolerant and began to see the aristocracy as individual people rather than a whole rotten bunch
But I still agree Tom's brother is a snob and he really needed to be put in his place. He was invited as a guest to baby Sybil christening as her uncle and representative from her paternal family side not as some political activist from working class.
But he acted like a condensing jerk to everyone without even attempting to know them. The simpleton needs to understand that this event is all about baby Sybil not him or his class.
Kieran may have been uncomfortable in being among the English upper crust and I bet Tom Branson knew that too because he was the same.
@@kapilshastry he knows he would be out of place with them. I don't blame him. I know the family has come a long way but look at how they treated Tom after his and Sybil's marriage. He would be uncomfortable there and was trying not to. The thing is they all have pride. Obviously the Crawleys think that Tom wants to profit off them, or atleast Robert does. His brother knows how they would view him and so he stays away.
Tom's subtle eyebrow twitches. That tiny show of restraint. Omg, I love it! 🤌🏾✨
I could listen to Tom and Kieran Branson's accents all day. XD
As usual, the Dowager never comes short of fiery sentiments.
Oh, those back-handed compliments of Granny 😁
Lord Grantham: why is he coming to stay?
Mary: for the christening
Lord Grantham: takes a shot of alcohol
I loved it when said the line with an high octave to warn the Robert to put a sock in it.
😂😂😂😂
1:07 The Dowager giveth
1:21 And Dowager taketh away
When Tom reprimands his brother, I've always wondered who was the eldest. TBH it doesn't matter because in the end it's All about Tom and Sybiee.
He reminded me of grandmother who always used to put all of my bratty uncle's and aunts in place when everytime they tried to stir up troubles at someone's wedding or a special event.
If someone still tried to create a scene she would threatened them to stop immediately and act like a decent guest or she will shove her foot down in their throats.
@@kapilshastry Way to go Grandma. Me thinks she and the Dowager Countess would have gotten along very well.
@@kapilshastry I absolutly love your grandmother.
I think Tom might be the elder of the two, but either way I suspect they would be VERY close in age
Think Kieran is older cause he's got the facial hair but I guess Tom is the more mature one
Irish man!
Tom was like his brother at the begining but he has changed during the seasons!
2:15 Tom has become a protective brother to Edith and Mary.
I almost got a heart attack when that food spilt on Violet HAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAH
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myocardial_infarction
@@SuperGreatSphinx why do you do this? Why do you haunt Downton Abbey comment sectiona to drop unrelated wikipedia linka to general topics!?
@@stahppls2293 we may never know
@@VeryAmazingGrace 🤣😂
@@stahppls2293 actually it’s a Wikipedia page to a cause of heart attacks which links to the ops comment about almost having one
"Have you changed your pills?" 🤣
Edith: **exists**
Everyone in the show: Why?
Poor thing 😅 At least she had the last laugh in the end.
😥
lord grantham: why is he coming here?
mary: for the christening
lord grantham: *gulps drink*
Def qualifies as one of the best scenes ever.....Tom winning the favour of Carsen.
Just goes to show: You don't have to be born rich to be a prejudiced pompous snob.
the poor man's egalitarianism and the rich man's snobbery are both ridden by the same sort of pride.
Jim Queiroz - EXACTLY!!!
yeah you tend to be prejudiced when you can see your people being like second hand citizens by a group who do no work
@@neeliknowsnothing The rich work. Just not necessarily hard physical labour. If you make hundreds of dollars an hour why would you scrub your own bathroom? Even the poor have prejudices. In this case maybe envy.
Although I agree that Tom’s brother was completely out of line there was still plenty of Anti-Irish sentiment at the time. Add onto that the fact that the Easter Rebellion had even further solidified Irish distaste. Add onto this that it was about 1-2 years before The Republic was finally able to even break off from English rule through secession.
The brother was pissed his Irish brother was tangled with an English family. I dont blame him for feeling that way. Afterall, the English had been oppressors of Ireland.
@Chris Kavanaugh uhm yes they did. starved them to death in the truest sense.
@Chris Kavanaugh They don't want to hear it, they only want to believe their one track and dismiss anything else. You're correct about the Ruling Class of the time though....
But you can't blame the Crawleys for that.
Tom’s brother had the right to object to being “change into a pumpkin 🎃” 😂 😂 😂
@@phalynwilliams4119 I think his point was that he didn't have another suit. Unlike all the males of this family.
"Have you changed your pills?" with the smug while serving herself, that was hilarious
I thought she only served to prove how uneducated and rude she is by saying that.
Edith: I don't why I even bother...
Carson approves!!!!
“For the (catholic) christening” Lord Grantham: downs shot
Can you explain why it was such a big deal for lord Grantham?
@@pallikarazdansingh7862 English are mostly anglicans. Which goes back to the days of Henry the 8th who broke England away from the Catholic Church to create his own church to marry Anne Boleyn by divorcing his first wife. He supported Protestantism. Sybil being catholic means she’s almost like a different faith. It’s like Shia and suni Muslims. They believe the same but practices and technicalities are different. The Irish are catholic which is what Tom is. He’s catholic and so he decided his daughter will be baptised catholic.
More like necks alcohol.
Also, being Anglican was also about one’s loyalty to the monarch and the state; for many generations there were laws against Catholics holding offices of state and essentially having a public presence, and they were seen as being disloyal (although there were some exceptions iirc). The English Church and English Nationalism were very strongly tied together for a loooong time
"My mother in law has been kind enough to invite you to stay and dine and I'll not let you snub her. Now, get a move on." Early hints of Tom's loyalty to the family and his great character.
A lot of tension in the air 😐
I understand the historical separation between the Anglicans and the Church of England; but I don't understand it in terms of our modern world. Catholics and Anglicans are very similar in more ways than they are different. In fact, in terms of worship and prayers, they are very close.
As an American Episcopalian I agree with you to a small measure of degree. Unlike the Church of England, the Episcopal Church is more open and free to All of God's Children. We put God as the head/leader of the church, not the Queen. The shock heard round the world was when Bishop Curry, Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church was invited and welcomed to preach at the Royal Wedding of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. His style of preaching and enthusiasm for the Christian faith is a complete 360 to what the Church of England/The Anglican church is used to.
If you've ever attend an Episcopal church worship service, (Check out the Washington Cathedrals TH-cam channel) you'll notice similarities to that of a Catholic service. With degrees of separation in style and liturgy. To which I am personally grateful, as I myself is what some would call a *Cradle Episcopalian."
@@m.layfette6249I have been to several Episcopalian services and some of the prayers are slightly different, but nothing vastly different.
I think the Anglican Church was started by Henry the Eighth when he couldn't get the Catholic Church to approve his divorce.
2:21 And what would I change into? A pompkin?
I'm always intregued by the food. This diner looked especially nice, with the river lobsters as their entree.
Have you changed your pills? Fantastic job Isobel
0:54 - GO!
If I were Edith, I'd get up and leave when Granny said that and Granny would need to apologize for that before I ever spoke with her again
Thomas is laughing inside for the entire scene
I can’t stand this brief moment in fashion history. The tuxedo, aside from marking the beginning of the fall of fashion, looks so silly on Lord Grantham when his butler and footmen are in white tie livery.
Oh! lobby, what a treat... 🦞
This is when I began to like Tom!
I retcon Tom's brother in my fanfiction, he's an only child.
I think he has a few siblings, but since they never appear in the show, you don’t have to retcon them out. 😀
Irish Catholics at this time would be likely have tons of children.
Who's getting excited for the release of the movie?
Yep.
Who's now watched the movie? :D
It was great
Saw the movie and left me wanting more!!!!!!
Watched the movie now and I need part 2
I just saw the new one that came out 2022. I like this one quite, it has intriguing mystery at the center of it.
Why do they think that being disrespectful would help their cause?
It's sad that the creators of this show think that having a different opinion leads to only two paths, arrogance or submission.
That's Not the creators view, that's the way of life during the Edwardian era in England. The English are always right and everyone else is expected to just fall in line.
@@m.layfette6249
I love this show, but most times they introduced a character that "thought" differently they made them either arrogant, rude, defiant and impositive (Thomas, Mrs. Crawley, Tom in the beginning, Tom's brother, the school teacher that Tom liked, and even Daisy to some degree) or submissive (Tom eventually and Rose, they had more characters going the arrogant route).
The only character that was developed in a way that wanted to make a change and made it without imposition, was Sybil and even to some extent the Dowager and Edith.
This has nothing to do with "the era" as right now people still prefer to burn bridges than build them.
Again it is sad that the creators relied mostly on rude and defiant characters to make a point, as generally it is people that work with the system the ones that eventually inspire and even achieve more, and they are way more interesting again Sybil being the best example.
Characters like Tom's brother are an annoyance and achieve nothing but the bitter taste of drama and are forgotten quicker than they wrote them.
I am a writer myself, and I understand that these types of characters have a raison d'etre and I even use them sparingly. But again, the creators of this show, in my opinion, rely too heavily on these characters and as a fellow creator myself, I find that sad.
@@AidiaP yes, and once you've noticed this it's very relevant to know that this show isn't written by a random Brit but by a Baron who is a conservative peer in the house of Lords, born in 1949...
@@AidiaPTl; dr
@@AidiaPI'd rather have a brother like Tom NOT Kieran
Just scrape me down. The things the she comes out with just brilliant
Who?
I like Tom!!! :-) :-)
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Glad they get rid of Jimmy he's too selfish to work as servants.
Like Gwen.
@@yannickdrmda5295 Gwen wanted to leave service and better herself. How is that selfish?
@@flyboy152 oops I meant Ethel
@@yannickdrmda5295 Ah, OK, yeah. It's one thing to want to rise above service, like Gwen did, but Ethel was acting high & mighty from day one, like the world owed her something. In that time & place, the world wouldn't have given her squat.
*a servant
Queria poder entender o que eles falam
Por favor...mejoren la traducción!!!
Ejemplos:(escribieron) often....(debería ser)Alfred
Davis.....Branson
Hubo muchos más errores
Jimmys always being trouble.
The actor who plays toms brother looks so much like Allen Leech (who, of course, plays Tom) that I wondered did they cast a real life relative? It seems not, but quite a resemblance
No
How much Guiness must Kieran have had on the way there to think dinner in the same room as that foul Mrs O'Brien would be pleasant?
I would have ate downstairs too, the family is too uptight and snobby. I don't think Tom's brother was being rude at all.
The brother was having a good time talking to Tom’s friends downstairs. The brother didn’t put on any airs and he respected his brother’s request that he go upstairs and risk “changing into a pumpkin 🎃. “ 😂 The scene was perfect 👍.
The mistress of the house invites him to dine and he prefers the company of the domestics. He is showing his contempt to her. If that's not rude, I wonder what is your definition.
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I had forgotten how much I disliked Robert this season. He was so sexist at this time in the show and it really irritated me. Glad he had learned better as the season went on
I'm not sure he was being sexist but rather clasist. He didn't like his daughter, a lady having a job...same how he was annoyed that Matthew his hier had a job
Soooo, you're upset that the characters are written accurately by Julian, for the time in which they live? You would prefer, perhaps, that they all be modern Woketards?
@@aislingbolton793*classist
*heir
😳 😄
I hated Jimmy. He was so rude to everybody.
He was being quite smug to alfred but the the rivalries going on downstairs was more entertaining at times
I hate "Jimmy".
Did anyone know that the actor who plays Carson is married to the actor who play Dolores Umbridge in Harry Potter
Has she been in anything else?
@@Tomes23 the new Downton Abbey movie
Where have you been? Under a rock?!
@@Tomes23Of course. She's a well-known British actress. She was in the last 2 seasons of "The Crown" as Queen Elizabeth. She's been in other movies, including "Nanny McPhee" and Emma Thompson's "Pride and Prejudice."
I love the scottish and irish people who are so visible on this show. we have a strong and authentic bond. 😊Hi, I’m Brittney Hill :D . I really enjoy your uploads! I’m looking to live in Los Angeles county, where Hollywood is! I am currently living in Orange County, and looking for a place to live in Los Angeles County. Yay, me! My whole life, I’ve always done everything by myself, literally, so that’s why I’m super proud that I figured out my, Destiny (All by myself). My Destiny is to get married to a few guys, all at once, and be the perfect happy family. Those guys are, Tom Ellis (he is a London actor on a hit-show in America called, Lucifer), Hugh Bonneville and Jim Carter (they are 2 really handsome gentlemen on the show, Downton Abbey), Louis Garrel (he is super famous London actor on the movie, Dreamers), and then I am also to marry, Henry Cavill and Johnathan Rhys Meyers (they are super hot guys on the huge show, The Tudors). I will become their Wife, and Mother to our children (it’ll be my first time being a Mom). So far, we have 3 daughters. I am also going to, finally, become a, famous, American, Actress on the big screen. The second thing in my Destiny is to be a real, live, Queen, for the United Kingdom. I was born to do all of these things :D, so it is in my blood. I’m Middle class, and I AM, social climbing, so I will, marry the first rich man I come in to contact with, of course. HAHA! Either way my story plays out, I WILL END UP MARRIED TO THESE MEN, POST HASTE! That is a promise. I’m 31 years old, and I’m not just any Millennial, I’m, THAT, Millennial! You can join me wherever you see me in person :D ! See you on the big screen :D ! Family. Love. Love. Love
Hidden Kitten that was probably the strangest comment I’ve ever read
@@l.a.3479 Obviously...I had brain damage so it made me a bit psychotic but I've been eating healthy and so I'm sane again. That's what it was....
I'm so sorry. I've deleted my rude comment. @@qui_etes_vous
They know that I am not ? Really Tom ? What makes you think that ? You never gave them reason to think otherwise
And who made you the representative of Downton Abbey servants council.
The reason tom can't eat with them anymore because he is the part of the family and his place is with them not downstairs. And for your information in next season's it was Mrs. Hughes who comforts tom and assures him that he should never feel apologetic about his current position and allow anyone to make him feel guilty. She still respects him like she always had in the past and he doesn't need to do anything to prove himself.
Ofcourse an Irish has to act like this as his story is untold in this show and the obvious reason for his behaviour is ignored and aristocrats again ends up being the goodest of all because it's an English show.
This is why you show stick to your own class
If everyone did that than after a few centuries each class would be inbred. 🤣
I hate cynics, I've always have, they're the biggest pessimists and negative thinkers in the world, and Tom's brother is not the exception.