Last year I had to scrap my 2008 Octavia. So I had to buy a new car. I wanted more than 100HP, led lights, automatic a/c and heated seats. The cheapest car I found was Sandero Stepway with TCe110 engine, at around 14k. The alternative from other brands were around 18k. So Dacia won.
@@Brian-om2hh it was not an option because Octavia suffered a total engine failure and the only way to have some money back for it I had to scrap it and got around 2000 from the government, but only to buy a new car. The prices above are all with 2000 deduction from government.
Great to see Tim and Rebecca together in a review. It would be brilliant to see them do more reviews together but it's whether Rebecca put up with Tim 🤣🤣🤣
The Dacia when new in 2022 cost £14,500 for the base white + £595 for the paint option. In 2 years it has only lost £2000. I don't know how much the Scala with a 1.5tsi engine was in the back end of 2022, but as its the next size category up equal to the Golf and currently starts at £21,300 I expect it was about £20,000. That's quite a high depreciation on the Skoda. Yes the Skoda is a better car in this situation, but you would be gutted if you had paid all that from new.
No depreciation to worry about if you lease...... And I doubt you'd get £12500 trade in for a 2 year old Dacia.... More like £9k, which the dealer would then mark up to £10.5k
About the boot space, the comparison is unfair, because Sandero Stepway is a small city car and Skoda Scala is a break MPV car. It would be better to choose from Dacia, the Logan (sedan), with 528 litres, or Logan MCV (break), with 756 litres, which was replaced by Jogger. ;)
It's not unfair. The video is not titled as 'the biggest boot space for £12,000'. It's the best car on the used (or second hand market) for about £10 - 12,000. If you want the biggest boot space for £12,000 buy a used Ford Transit.
There are other factors in play though, such as depreciation and insurance costs. Also Dacia has the new Zen warranty offer that will extend the warranty to 7 years.
@@steve17m13 Maybe, but at least you pay a fixed Monthly cost with no nasty shock at the end of it. You'd obviously be ok with the Monthly payment, otherwise you wouldn't take out the lease in the first place...
@@Brian-om2hhMost people I know who leased their cars all experienced nasty surprises with their leasing partners. Maybe it's different where you live but in my country these companies are the biggest scammers who try to milk every last penny out of you following cancelation of their leasing agreements. Most of my friends ended up buying out the leased cars and selling them to keep losses low but I would never ever lease a vehicle again.
Bought a second hand 2020 Skoda Skala automatic 15 months ago, it has keyless ignition, and unlocks without using the key if you hold the door handle. It's been a great car for it's first year, the Skoda service pqckage is also good.
@@ilovesheryterry Continuing with my reply. It can be a little jerky if the engine has been in stop mode in traffic and you accelerate at the same time as the engine starts, but that was the same on the Lexus automatic that I had previously so I expected that, overall I find the drive of the Scala superior to the Lexus CT200 in every way. The fuel economy of the Skod is better than the Lexus hybrid! To be fair I chose this car as a sensible all round vehicle, I no longer fo 30k miles per year, and I don't need to go anywhere fast so 70 - 80 mph capability is fine znd smoothly attained.
If you’re faced with this decision, get the Skoda. Safety is also a lot better in case you get in a crash…. Then you won’t care that carplay is wireless….
@@flaviu5428 it is absolutely not the same, even if you just compare crash safety and none of the other categories EuroNCAP scored the Scala over 95% and the Sandero about 70% for adult occupants.
I considered the Scala as our family car. I dismissed it because ot the lack of roof rails mounting points. Landed on a Golf estate instead. I feel Skoda were careful not to canibalize Octavia sales with leaving them out.
Dacia owner here, cheap motoring but if they are both the same price used, you'd definitely choose the Skoda, its far superior dynamically and quality. Dacia were great when they were cheap but thats no longer the case with prices jumping massively. Also the Dacia's driving position is crap unless you're short and the seats are also poor and unsupportive.
👁️👄👁️my brother bought the 1.5 with the dsg, brand new two years and 65k kms ago, and it hasn't stopped since making ugly noises (the automatic transmission)
@Brian-om2hh When I looked on autotrader you could buy manual 1.5 tsi so thsts where I would be looking as I am a bit KISS on modern vehicles ie keep it simple stupid less to go wrong is good and manual gearboxes normally go the life of the car.
@@Anetheron92 Totally irrelevant. These are two cars on the used market or second hand market. What the price was new does not matter. That's why you could buy a used Mercedes-Benz for the price of a brand new Ford. Your choice.
I had 2 of the older stepway cars and loved them but changed over to a skoda fabia as I needed an automatic. Dacia didn’t do one at the time . I have to say the Skoda may look plain and boring but they are really well made. And built to last. I won’t be changing from skoda
Why do they always hammer on about speeeed! everywhere in europe we now have strict speed limits, cameras, measured speed zones. It's easier to use your limiter and avoid fines. As someone who remembers being able to hammer it up and down motorways with impunity, the amount of traffic on todays roads have made it a necessity to keep speeds down. Drive carefully people.
The comparison is not unfair. It's the price point on the second hand or used car market that's important. Motorpoint are not reviewing new cars. It's what you could buy for very similar money on the used car market. In this case, the new car sale price is irrelevant.
As a previous Dacia Sandero owner having had 2 x 2023 cars and rejected them due to substantial faults I would pick the more sturdy and reliable Skoda.
I like this. Two people with different opinions and what they want in a car. I still prefer Rebecca to do the driving though in both cars; I'd feel much safer.
You must be a fool to buy that 90HP or 110HP petrol engine in Dacia when there is factory installed LPG version with 100HP that makes 80-90% of all Dacia (Sandero, Logan, Jogger) sales. There is still plenty of filling stations and LPG is 90% cheaper than petrol at this moment. That and only that would be extremly valid argument to buy Dacia over Scala.
LPG is a dying fuel in the UK at least. In 2020 there were nearly 2,000 fuel stations selling LPG. By the end of 2024 there will be less than 900. My closest LPG filling station is now 1 hour and 15 minutes away. So no. Any LPG car in the UK is worthless.
@@LelouchLamperouge235 Correct, it didn't. Volvo sold a CNG variant years ago in the UK, but CNG was even rarer than LPG. There are approx. 13 CNG filling station across the entire UK. So it's obsolete. Every fuel station has both petrol and diesel pumps. LPG and CNG pumps are now being replaced with EV chargers.
LPG is on it's way out in Britain, and in other markets too. Shell have decommissioned all their LPG assets in the UK now. LPG is a horrendously filthy fuel. The emissions produced during refining are truly awful. Of course, the end user doesn't see those....
@@LelouchLamperouge235most things are half arsed in the UK. People come here with no English language skills and still become a success and build upon it through their children. Recruiters go to other countries and entice them to come to the UK.
higher scala trims do have wireless apple carplay/android auto .. this seems to be basic spec .. with manual AC etc .. slightly smaller infotainment display, not even keyless entry :D The 1.5 TSI is pretty fuel hungry in a city .. good everywhere else .. surprisingly good on a highway because it can switch off 2 cylinders when only limited engine power is required ) If you get scala in a higher trim and especially a new one ( facelift) you will get 45W PD charging through those usb-c ports ( will charge a lower power ultrabook or more phones fast ) and you can get Matrix headlights (perfect for highway driving) also the facelift scala has a usb-c port on the rear-view mirror for easy installation of a camera . Oh yeah .. not sure about dacia, with skoda you get the "simply clever "stuff .. easy system to refill windshield washer without spilling, holder for parking tickets, ice scraper in your fuel cap, umbrella in drivers door etc...
oh yeah .. also for anyone getting a scala - get side-assist if possible .. its basically long range sensors aimed sideways backwards -- will warn you if something is in your blind spot .. but is also invaluable if you park in-between cars and then want to reverse .. the sensors will pick up moving stuff long before reverse camera , your vision .. not to mention standard parking sensors :D
I have a Stepway with that engine and I am very satisfied. I also own an Octavia 2 and a Seat Ibiza 6j. Škoda and Seat have better front seats, but the 0.9 TCe is a very temperate and smart unit. I'd rather drive a stepway than a VW concern.😊 Dacia now makes very nice cars. SCALA is a boring car by its design. The latest model Superb is a beautiful car, but that's a different class. I'm curious what cars Jozef Kabáň drew for MG.
As a VW shareholder from Pilsen, the original cradle of the non-car Škoda brand, I am still impressed that the Romanians can make any cars at all. Count Dracula can suck blood - they should place him in the logo, the current one is utterly uninspiring compared to the legendary winged arrow (or shot through chicken or half of the wings) of Škoda. The French were starting with much poorer industrial conditions in Romania than VW in Czechia.
you should travel out of your little mountains more often. See the world. You will be even more impressed. i know for a fact the rest of the Czechs are sharper than you.
@@watanneni have seen more than I wanted, North Africa, Asia, twenty states in the US over a decade when I lived there and worked as Harvard faculty, a dozen of European countries. I know very well why I don't value empty headed global citizens like you.
The Scala will be better built, have had more development, be more refined, have more interior space, and probably be nicer to drive... And the Scala *isn't* built on the Polo floor-pan. It's on a modified Golf floor-pan. Adaptive suspension is (or was) available as an option on the Scala. It has never been available on a Polo, because the floor-pan wouldn't accommodate it...... All that said, the Dacia will cost less to buy... I couldn't help but hear the boot latch on the Dacia - it sounded very tinny.... I have to admit I'm a Skoda fan though, having owned 5 of them. I like the fact Skoda's have the quality and development VW are able to offer..... Sure, for £200 per Month, you'd have enough left over to feed your dog after paying for the Dacia, but I'll take the Skoda thanks.... In fact I did. I have a Kamiq on lease.....and I'll pass on the dog.
Generally, in the UK Dacia is seen as a budget brand, but they sell in reasonable numbers. The people who do their research know that the platform and technology are previous generation Renault. That's not a bad thing. It means they are tried and tested. Many miles have been done by many owners. Any developmental faults are either known by mechanics, or already fixed by the manufacturer. Dacia might not be at the cutting edge of automotive progression, but they make affordable, dependable and adequately robust products. Not for the enthusiast, more for the accountants.
In the Czech Republic and Slovakia, the 0.9 TCe engine is very well rated. They praise him for his reliability, economy and temperament. I have a Stepway with that engine and I am very satisfied. I also own an Octavia 2 and a Seat Ibiza 6j. I don't like Skoda Scala. 😀
keyless ignition is really bad...i dont know why people are so excited about it......clearly they never stayed aout of the car because the battery was over......
you have the physical key and locks as backup to get into the car (they are just hidden for esthetic reasons ) , as for ignition there is a method of starting with low power keyfob by getting it close to the button .. not sure if it just maximizes your chances by being in proximity of one of the antennas with low signal strength coming out of the keyfob or if it can use induction to power the circuitry of a dead keyfob so it sends a signal. Anyway the system is kinda made for keyless ignition so when you get the base spec its funny because it in some ways emulates the button function unlike the old simpler ignition.
It's way more solidly built than the Dacia, and 100k miles on, it'll be in far better shape....and be more desirable. The Dacia will be full of rattles and shakes at that mileage.....
@@Vdmv5757 Because the 'normal' Sandero is a genuine, honest car. The Stepway is a fake. All looks and no talent. If you need a 4x4 look-a-like, then just buy a real 4x4 in the first place.
I guess there's no more arbitrary measurement than "my driving position". That's just stupid. Put the front seat all the way back and then we can see how much space is there for the rear seat passengers.
It is if you're prepared to look at a used Skoda rather than a new Dacia....... But as someone who has owned 5 Skodas, I wouldn't be in a hurry to look at the Dacia....
@@motorpoint I don’t really understand the point of that. Who will buy an used Sandero for 12k + when you can buy it brand new for 16k. For extra 4K you get the newer model and 3 years + 2 extended warranty. On the other hand Skoda Scala for that price you mentioned has about 150 000 km and 6 years old. If we are talking used cars than you have multiple options at the same price.
@@69svejk I have no idea what you are talking about. They are comparing similar PRICE cars on the used / second hand car market. They are not new cars. I don't know where, or why you think a Skoda Skala with 150,000km at 6 years old would be the same PRICE as a NEW Dacia Sandero. Crazy
@@TakeResponsibilty if you use capital letters doesn’t make it more intelligent. WHERE ON EARTH YOU GOT THE IMPRESSION I HAVENT NOTICED THE COMPARISON WASNT BETWEEN USED CARS???? I clearly stated I don’t understand the point of comparing an used Dacia when for only extra 4k you can get the newer model all brand new? Who on earth will save the 4k to buy this car in the video ???
@@69svejk Because as you stated in your reply above (verbatim) "A Skoda Scala for that price you mentioned has about 150000 km and 6 years old". That is nonsense.
When new these cars are 10 k apart.The cheapest 1.5 tsi is just under 25000. Dacia 15000. Used cars market have simply too many variables. For the same money Scala wins for 10000 more I will call you later.
The only thing i do not like in my skoda octavia 2024 is the unfairness price between my new octavia and scala or fabia. If you choose fabia for 14k you get almost the same standard gear as in octavia which costs 33k and even if you buy the whole gear in fabia or scala you will still save a lot more money because you wont get near 33k. Sure octavia is wider and larger but that does not mean yoz need to pay extra price 15k just because it is a wagon. There should be limited gears for each models as standard option octavia should get a lot more gear for that money. Not just gear lot more hp at least 50 plus more hp, and there should be more awd in octavia, mostly of them are still fwd... and ncap results in fabia are better than in octavia which is shame...Dont get me wrong i am verry happy with it it definetly feels luxorious driving it, but the price is too high for less equipment in it.
Hm, dețin Dacia Logan Cvt, am condus multe Dacia Sandero dar și o Scala, nici nu există comparație. Skoda este mult mai bine finisata, mult mai stabilă, mai bine antifonată. Pt o diferență de 2000 E, Skoda este o alegere mai bună.
Who would buy that boring plastic Skoda anyway? And it means it has deprecated considerably more than the Dacia. And we have to mention the reliability issues of the 1.5 TSI VW sourced engine. In the meantime, Dacia and especially the Sandero, proved to be one of the most reliable cars on the market. And cheap to fix if it does go wrong.
@@theodorgrigoras6001 This is not a review of brand new cars. It's a second hand / used review. To say the Dacia holds it's value better is irrelevant. No cars purchased brand new hold their value. They all depreciate. In fact buying a new car is often a very poor financial choice.
Which means nothing. This is a used car review, what you can buy second hand. So the manufacturer new price is irrelevant. For the new price of a Sandero, you could buy a Mercedes V12 CL600 if you're brave enough. Not recommended, but possible.
Not on price in the used car market when they are a few years old. That's the whole point of the video. These are not new cars compared on size. Just on price as a used buy.
The UK law does not state that at all. All children up to 135cm tall (around 4'5"), or the age of 12, whichever comes first, seated in the front or rear of cars, vans and other goods vehicles must travel in the correct child restraint for their weight. Age is NOT the determiner. It's height and weight. Either in the front or back.
One car has horsepower from 1960s, color and shape of a brick, but it has wireless apple. The other is faster, larger inside, aerodynamic and has bigger storage space(s). Also it does not have electronic issues like every french car did since invention of electricity.
So the Rover 90 in the 1960s had a 2.6 litre engine producing 90bhp. The Ford Zephyr had a 2.0 petrol engine producing 89bhp. Both cars were pulling heavy car bodies. The 3cyl 1.0 turbo Renault engined Dacia produces 89bhp and pulls a lighter car. Same engine output, massive difference. The Sandero is plenty fast enough. 0 to 50mph time is 8.7 seconds.
@@motorpoint Less stress on engine components than the 1.0, thus increasing reliability, plus it may have just been what was available in SKODA inventory at the time of purchase. Additionally a rental is more likely to be carrying multiple occupants and their baggage, so the larger engine is better suited for that task. Didnt stop me driving my 1.2 fabia 5-up to wales and back though.
Nobody will never be able to tell me a dacia is a good car, it's a crap cheap car all be it maybe not as crap as they used to be but still uninspiring crap interior
We’ve had our Dacia since the first lot sold in the UK in 2013 and there not bad cars, gets you from A to B and has hand stuff like the built in satnav, reversing sensors, cruise control… however there also not great cars either 😂 we had that leaking problem a lot of them had with water gathering in passenger footwell.. but you also can’t even have the windows open a crack while it’s raining because the angles of the window/frame/door makes it so it completely soaks the inside of the door from the drips 😂
I think you have to put it into perspective. Depending on what you drive. If you have a 40k car such as a Superb or an Audi, then a 12k Dacia will feel low rent and basic. But, if you've just come from a 3k 10 year old car, the Dacia won't feel so bad.
@@milliebooth9848 I would agree entirely. Dacia's use older platforms and technology from Renault. No bad thing really. Not at the forefront of automotive development, but tried and tested. Most mechanics will know and understand the faults, or the manufacturer has sorted it out during the service schedule. As for rain water getting in through front windows even if at a slight drizzle - your Dacia has a lot in common with my VW Golf 8.
Like the crap 2cv and renault 4/5/6 still going in Europe and countries today. French cars are still going strong flimsy but robust and don’t rot like German crap
Last year I had to scrap my 2008 Octavia. So I had to buy a new car. I wanted more than 100HP, led lights, automatic a/c and heated seats. The cheapest car I found was Sandero Stepway with TCe110 engine, at around 14k. The alternative from other brands were around 18k. So Dacia won.
You didn't consider the used market then? One of the alternatives at 12 Months old, would probably have been in your price range....
@@Brian-om2hh it was not an option because Octavia suffered a total engine failure and the only way to have some money back for it I had to scrap it and got around 2000 from the government, but only to buy a new car. The prices above are all with 2000 deduction from government.
@@laurradu868what country?
Wrong choice. Dacia has a shitty safety performance.
@@wizzyno1566 most likely romania
Great to see Tim and Rebecca together in a review. It would be brilliant to see them do more reviews together but it's whether Rebecca put up with Tim 🤣🤣🤣
Haha, we've filmed a few more - and they're better than this one! -Tim
@@motorpointGMA T50 vs Valkyrie (aka ‘the £200 per second challenge’)
@@rotoehu9266 Let me speak to our insurers… -Tim
The Dacia when new in 2022 cost £14,500 for the base white + £595 for the paint option. In 2 years it has only lost £2000.
I don't know how much the Scala with a 1.5tsi engine was in the back end of 2022, but as its the next size category up equal to the Golf and currently starts at £21,300 I expect it was about £20,000.
That's quite a high depreciation on the Skoda.
Yes the Skoda is a better car in this situation, but you would be gutted if you had paid all that from new.
No depreciation to worry about if you lease...... And I doubt you'd get £12500 trade in for a 2 year old Dacia.... More like £9k, which the dealer would then mark up to £10.5k
i remember in 2021 in my country the dacia sandero stepway with the best equipment and lpg engine was 14k€ now its 16k€+
Great video, two affordable cars compared with useful info and good humour. Well done you two!
About the boot space, the comparison is unfair, because Sandero Stepway is a small city car and Skoda Scala is a break MPV car. It would be better to choose from Dacia, the Logan (sedan), with 528 litres, or Logan MCV (break), with 756 litres, which was replaced by Jogger. ;)
It's not unfair. The video is not titled as 'the biggest boot space for £12,000'. It's the best car on the used (or second hand market) for about £10 - 12,000. If you want the biggest boot space for £12,000 buy a used Ford Transit.
There are other factors in play though, such as depreciation and insurance costs. Also Dacia has the new Zen warranty offer that will extend the warranty to 7 years.
If you lease, then depreciation isn't your worry. It's for the leasing company to cope with......
@Brian-om2hh when you lease a car, you are paying for the depreciation.
@@steve17m13 Maybe, but at least you pay a fixed Monthly cost with no nasty shock at the end of it. You'd obviously be ok with the Monthly payment, otherwise you wouldn't take out the lease in the first place...
@@Brian-om2hhMost people I know who leased their cars all experienced nasty surprises with their leasing partners. Maybe it's different where you live but in my country these companies are the biggest scammers who try to milk every last penny out of you following cancelation of their leasing agreements. Most of my friends ended up buying out the leased cars and selling them to keep losses low but I would never ever lease a vehicle again.
Bought a second hand 2020 Skoda Skala automatic 15 months ago, it has keyless ignition, and unlocks without using the key if you hold the door handle.
It's been a great car for it's first year, the Skoda service pqckage is also good.
have you had any problems with the transmission making ugly noises
@@ilovesheryterry no problems at all, it has held no surprises, it can be a little
@@ilovesheryterry
Continuing with my reply.
It can be a little jerky if the engine has been in stop mode in traffic and you accelerate at the same time as the engine starts, but that was the same on the Lexus automatic that I had previously so I expected that, overall I find the drive of the Scala superior to the Lexus CT200 in every way. The fuel economy of the Skod is better than the Lexus hybrid!
To be fair I chose this car as a sensible all round vehicle, I no longer fo 30k miles per year, and I don't need to go anywhere fast so 70 - 80 mph capability is fine znd smoothly attained.
If you’re faced with this decision, get the Skoda. Safety is also a lot better in case you get in a crash…. Then you won’t care that carplay is wireless….
safety is the same :)) I may even say the Dacia is better, but this is about how strong the car is, not about electronic safety equipment...
Haha what.@@flaviu5428
@@flaviu5428 lasa vrajeala bre :) asa speram si eu pana am vb cu mai multi de la smurd/interventii….
@@flaviu5428 it is absolutely not the same, even if you just compare crash safety and none of the other categories EuroNCAP scored the Scala over 95% and the Sandero about 70% for adult occupants.
More “Tim and Rebecca in the same video” videos please!
Thanks! We’re doing more! -Tim
Loved the carwow Matt Watson reference lol
I have the dacia stepway prestige. Brought it new in 22. It's a lovely car but a pain to clean those alloy wheels properly
I was always hoping that skoda would bring out a VRS version of the scala
I considered the Scala as our family car. I dismissed it because ot the lack of roof rails mounting points. Landed on a Golf estate instead. I feel Skoda were careful not to canibalize Octavia sales with leaving them out.
golf estates look pretty good these days .. im having trouble discerning between golf variant and passat variant sometimes :D
Conversation style car reviews with two in a car are always better. Hopefully next time RJ will make a joke that makes Tim feel uncomfortable
She makes me feel uncomfortable all the time -Tim
Dacia owner here, cheap motoring but if they are both the same price used, you'd definitely choose the Skoda, its far superior dynamically and quality. Dacia were great when they were cheap but thats no longer the case with prices jumping massively. Also the Dacia's driving position is crap unless you're short and the seats are also poor and unsupportive.
Bit of a Rebecca fan here and i do like the Skoda values especially with s 1.5 tsi engine as long as its a manual.
👁️👄👁️my brother bought the 1.5 with the dsg, brand new two years and 65k kms ago, and it hasn't stopped since making ugly noises (the automatic transmission)
@@ilovesheryterry Has he had the DSG box serviced?
@@Brian-om2hh no :33 they said it's normal on the dry dsg7 but it doesn't sound normal. I think it's a known issue with those, and vw says it's normal
I think the 1.5 is auto only in the Fabia and Scala..... Once you've driven an auto for a couple of weeks, you won't want a manual...
@Brian-om2hh When I looked on autotrader you could buy manual 1.5 tsi so thsts where I would be looking as I am a bit KISS on modern vehicles ie keep it simple stupid less to go wrong is good and manual gearboxes normally go the life of the car.
Aren’t these two cars nearly £10K apart new?
Yup! But not when they’re nearly new/used as we’re testing them -Tim
@@motorpoint Dacia always keeps its value ... take the Duster for example ... a used Duster 2 is nearly as expensive as a new one lol.
@@Anetheron92 Totally irrelevant. These are two cars on the used market or second hand market. What the price was new does not matter. That's why you could buy a used Mercedes-Benz for the price of a brand new Ford. Your choice.
Base spec Skoda v top spec Dacia…….i imagine a similar spec Skoda will be anon starter price wise.for me a Skoda win
Great dynamic, great presentation and both great choices
This just in....Rebecca is going bananas....🤯🙆🤗🎉🤣🤣🤣
I do wonder if she's actually tried any other fruit? -Tim
What happens to all the bananas after the recording 😢
Vents at the back alone is a big selling point
For Sandero stepway you can get an 110 Bhp engine, wirh a respectable 200 Nm torq !
Which would be the better deal if the Scala had the 1.0 engine ?
Great test and chemistry between the reviewers!
Agree, the Scala looks much better in a metallic colour
Most cars look better in a decent metallic colour. White always looks a bit bland.....
Great review. More of this please !
I had 2 of the older stepway cars and loved them but changed over to a skoda fabia as I needed an automatic. Dacia didn’t do one at the time . I have to say the Skoda may look plain and boring but they are really well made. And built to last. I won’t be changing from skoda
Why do they always hammer on about speeeed! everywhere in europe we now have strict speed limits, cameras, measured speed zones. It's easier to use your limiter and avoid fines. As someone who remembers being able to hammer it up and down motorways with impunity, the amount of traffic on todays roads have made it a necessity to keep speeds down. Drive carefully people.
Skoda and Rebecca for me. Just bought a Kamiq and love it.
Aye, as a traditional man I also think Rebecca is much more duckable than Tim.
I've had my Kamiq for 2 years. Just been to see about a new or demo replacement....
Sandero is a small class car , Skala is an compact class.. comparison is unfair. Sandero starts from 13000 Euros and Skala from 17000, same specs
The comparison is not unfair. It's the price point on the second hand or used car market that's important. Motorpoint are not reviewing new cars. It's what you could buy for very similar money on the used car market. In this case, the new car sale price is irrelevant.
It's Scala with a C
Great to see you two together
Get the Skoda kamiq instead of Scala if you want same scala performance but cross over look like sandero stepway
not for same money though
As a previous Dacia Sandero owner having had 2 x 2023 cars and rejected them due to substantial faults I would pick the more sturdy and reliable Skoda.
Hope you two do more reviews like this. How's about Toyota Camry v Skoda Superb?
We'll do more! If we get a Camry in stock I'll try to review it. -Tim
I like this. Two people with different opinions and what they want in a car. I still prefer Rebecca to do the driving though in both cars; I'd feel much safer.
You've clearly not driven with Rebecca :D - Tim
@@motorpoint I know her past and she is a very capable driver.
@@IwillBwaiting Oh she absolutely is. Just… fast!
You must be a fool to buy that 90HP or 110HP petrol engine in Dacia when there is factory installed LPG version with 100HP that makes 80-90% of all Dacia (Sandero, Logan, Jogger) sales. There is still plenty of filling stations and LPG is 90% cheaper than petrol at this moment. That and only that would be extremly valid argument to buy Dacia over Scala.
LPG is a dying fuel in the UK at least. In 2020 there were nearly 2,000 fuel stations selling LPG. By the end of 2024 there will be less than 900. My closest LPG filling station is now 1 hour and 15 minutes away. So no. Any LPG car in the UK is worthless.
@@TakeResponsibilty what about cng ? quick google search suggests it never really took off in the UK though.
@@LelouchLamperouge235 Correct, it didn't. Volvo sold a CNG variant years ago in the UK, but CNG was even rarer than LPG. There are approx. 13 CNG filling station across the entire UK. So it's obsolete. Every fuel station has both petrol and diesel pumps. LPG and CNG pumps are now being replaced with EV chargers.
LPG is on it's way out in Britain, and in other markets too. Shell have decommissioned all their LPG assets in the UK now. LPG is a horrendously filthy fuel. The emissions produced during refining are truly awful. Of course, the end user doesn't see those....
@@LelouchLamperouge235most things are half arsed in the UK. People come here with no English language skills and still become a success and build upon it through their children. Recruiters go to other countries and entice them to come to the UK.
My wife drives a Skoda Scala, it's the worst car I've ever experienced. The Dacia Sandero Stepway is miles over the Skoda.
higher scala trims do have wireless apple carplay/android auto .. this seems to be basic spec .. with manual AC etc .. slightly smaller infotainment display, not even keyless entry :D The 1.5 TSI is pretty fuel hungry in a city .. good everywhere else .. surprisingly good on a highway because it can switch off 2 cylinders when only limited engine power is required ) If you get scala in a higher trim and especially a new one ( facelift) you will get 45W PD charging through those usb-c ports ( will charge a lower power ultrabook or more phones fast ) and you can get Matrix headlights (perfect for highway driving) also the facelift scala has a usb-c port on the rear-view mirror for easy installation of a camera . Oh yeah .. not sure about dacia, with skoda you get the "simply clever "stuff .. easy system to refill windshield washer without spilling, holder for parking tickets, ice scraper in your fuel cap, umbrella in drivers door etc...
oh yeah .. also for anyone getting a scala - get side-assist if possible .. its basically long range sensors aimed sideways backwards -- will warn you if something is in your blind spot .. but is also invaluable if you park in-between cars and then want to reverse .. the sensors will pick up moving stuff long before reverse camera , your vision .. not to mention standard parking sensors :D
Yes, we did point out it's a base-spec pre-facelift to be fair -Tim
I have a Stepway with that engine and I am very satisfied. I also own an Octavia 2 and a Seat Ibiza 6j. Škoda and Seat have better front seats, but the 0.9 TCe is a very temperate and smart unit. I'd rather drive a stepway than a VW concern.😊
Dacia now makes very nice cars. SCALA is a boring car by its design. The latest model Superb is a beautiful car, but that's a different class. I'm curious what cars Jozef Kabáň drew for MG.
As a VW shareholder from Pilsen, the original cradle of the non-car Škoda brand, I am still impressed that the Romanians can make any cars at all. Count Dracula can suck blood - they should place him in the logo, the current one is utterly uninspiring compared to the legendary winged arrow (or shot through chicken or half of the wings) of Škoda. The French were starting with much poorer industrial conditions in Romania than VW in Czechia.
We have a Ford factory as well
you should travel out of your little mountains more often. See the world. You will be even more impressed. i know for a fact the rest of the Czechs are sharper than you.
@@watanneni have seen more than I wanted, North Africa, Asia, twenty states in the US over a decade when I lived there and worked as Harvard faculty, a dozen of European countries. I know very well why I don't value empty headed global citizens like you.
The Scala will be better built, have had more development, be more refined, have more interior space, and probably be nicer to drive... And the Scala *isn't* built on the Polo floor-pan. It's on a modified Golf floor-pan. Adaptive suspension is (or was) available as an option on the Scala. It has never been available on a Polo, because the floor-pan wouldn't accommodate it...... All that said, the Dacia will cost less to buy... I couldn't help but hear the boot latch on the Dacia - it sounded very tinny.... I have to admit I'm a Skoda fan though, having owned 5 of them. I like the fact Skoda's have the quality and development VW are able to offer..... Sure, for £200 per Month, you'd have enough left over to feed your dog after paying for the Dacia, but I'll take the Skoda thanks.... In fact I did. I have a Kamiq on lease.....and I'll pass on the dog.
The Skoda is much nicer.
you mean substantial maybe, cause nice it absolutely ain't.
Just for my Romanian curiosity, what do the English people say about the reliability of this tce 90 hp engine ?
Generally, in the UK Dacia is seen as a budget brand, but they sell in reasonable numbers. The people who do their research know that the platform and technology are previous generation Renault. That's not a bad thing. It means they are tried and tested. Many miles have been done by many owners. Any developmental faults are either known by mechanics, or already fixed by the manufacturer. Dacia might not be at the cutting edge of automotive progression, but they make affordable, dependable and adequately robust products. Not for the enthusiast, more for the accountants.
In the Czech Republic and Slovakia, the 0.9 TCe engine is very well rated. They praise him for his reliability, economy and temperament. I have a Stepway with that engine and I am very satisfied. I also own an Octavia 2 and a Seat Ibiza 6j. I don't like Skoda Scala. 😀
Rebecca still saying Farbia.but she has got 1970's jim jams on.
keyless ignition is really bad...i dont know why people are so excited about it......clearly they never stayed aout of the car because the battery was over......
you have the physical key and locks as backup to get into the car (they are just hidden for esthetic reasons ) , as for ignition there is a method of starting with low power keyfob by getting it close to the button .. not sure if it just maximizes your chances by being in proximity of one of the antennas with low signal strength coming out of the keyfob or if it can use induction to power the circuitry of a dead keyfob so it sends a signal. Anyway the system is kinda made for keyless ignition so when you get the base spec its funny because it in some ways emulates the button function unlike the old simpler ignition.
Even 1.0 TSI motor in scala is good enough
Sandero looks better, in and out 👍👍
You forgot to mention the skoda scalas 5 star ncap saftey rating the dacia has 2 staris so unsafe
They'd make a lovely couple 😬
Aww... Baldy-Beardy (Tim) is rather cute, isn't he?
SCALA ALL DAY LONG
It's way more solidly built than the Dacia, and 100k miles on, it'll be in far better shape....and be more desirable. The Dacia will be full of rattles and shakes at that mileage.....
People will choose crossover. Why? Because it looks bigger...
I'd go for the 'normal' Sandero over the Stepway.
Waarom? Voor de prijs? Voor het verbruik? De stepway ziet er toch beter en stoerder uit vind ik.😉
@@Vdmv5757 Because the 'normal' Sandero is a genuine, honest car. The Stepway is a fake. All looks and no talent. If you need a 4x4 look-a-like, then just buy a real 4x4 in the first place.
You should use phrase "Good news everyone"
I guess there's no more arbitrary measurement than "my driving position". That's just stupid. Put the front seat all the way back and then we can see how much space is there for the rear seat passengers.
Dacia for me. I don't trust no TSI oil eating engine from vw. Never again.
Well that's about the long and short of it.
Is that a height joke? If so, I'm here for it -Tim
Come on it was funny. 6 ft 3 v 5ft 4, not forgetting the half !!
thats not slow, My Stepway Automatic is even slower.
However, I am too lazy to shift gears
I like Dacia, but you can't compare it to Skoda.... Simply not possible!
It is if you're prepared to look at a used Skoda rather than a new Dacia....... But as someone who has owned 5 Skodas, I wouldn't be in a hurry to look at the Dacia....
Skoda Scala new 1.5 150 HP DSG price over 27 000 euro, Sandero Stepway Expression 16 000 euro
Yes, but this is a second-hand review! Which makes the Skoda look a bit of a bargin I think -Tim
@@motorpoint I don’t really understand the point of that. Who will buy an used Sandero for 12k + when you can buy it brand new for 16k. For extra 4K you get the newer model and 3 years + 2 extended warranty. On the other hand Skoda Scala for that price you mentioned has about 150 000 km and 6 years old. If we are talking used cars than you have multiple options at the same price.
@@69svejk I have no idea what you are talking about. They are comparing similar PRICE cars on the used / second hand car market. They are not new cars. I don't know where, or why you think a Skoda Skala with 150,000km at 6 years old would be the same PRICE as a NEW Dacia Sandero. Crazy
@@TakeResponsibilty if you use capital letters doesn’t make it more intelligent. WHERE ON EARTH YOU GOT THE IMPRESSION I HAVENT NOTICED THE COMPARISON WASNT BETWEEN USED CARS???? I clearly stated I don’t understand the point of comparing an used Dacia when for only extra 4k you can get the newer model all brand new? Who on earth will save the 4k to buy this car in the video ???
@@69svejk Because as you stated in your reply above (verbatim) "A Skoda Scala for that price you mentioned has about 150000 km and 6 years old". That is nonsense.
Škoda all the way...
When new these cars are 10 k apart.The cheapest 1.5 tsi is just under 25000. Dacia 15000. Used cars market have simply too many variables. For the same money Scala wins for 10000 more I will call you later.
This is Škoda not Skoda
By the way, hello Rebecca
Shhhhhkoda. I'll say hi to her when I see her next. -Tim
Not on the uk badge it aint
The only thing i do not like in my skoda octavia 2024 is the unfairness price between my new octavia and scala or fabia. If you choose fabia for 14k you get almost the same standard gear as in octavia which costs 33k and even if you buy the whole gear in fabia or scala you will still save a lot more money because you wont get near 33k. Sure octavia is wider and larger but that does not mean yoz need to pay extra price 15k just because it is a wagon. There should be limited gears for each models as standard option octavia should get a lot more gear for that money. Not just gear lot more hp at least 50 plus more hp, and there should be more awd in octavia, mostly of them are still fwd... and ncap results in fabia are better than in octavia which is shame...Dont get me wrong i am verry happy with it it definetly feels luxorious driving it, but the price is too high for less equipment in it.
But you still have badge snobbery though
Hm, dețin Dacia Logan Cvt, am condus multe Dacia Sandero dar și o Scala, nici nu există comparație. Skoda este mult mai bine finisata, mult mai stabilă, mai bine antifonată. Pt o diferență de 2000 E, Skoda este o alegere mai bună.
Dacia
Who would buy that boring plastic Skoda anyway? And it means it has deprecated considerably more than the Dacia.
And we have to mention the reliability issues of the 1.5 TSI VW sourced engine. In the meantime, Dacia and especially the Sandero, proved to be one of the most reliable cars on the market. And cheap to fix if it does go wrong.
The Skoda is somewhere between 60 and 80% more expensive than the Dacia so why even compare them?
Not on the used / second hand market it isn't. That's why this video was made. They are not comparing new cars at factory fresh prices.
@@TakeResponsibilty than in terms of depreciation, the Sandero wins, it holds value better
@@theodorgrigoras6001 This is not a review of brand new cars. It's a second hand / used review. To say the Dacia holds it's value better is irrelevant. No cars purchased brand new hold their value. They all depreciate. In fact buying a new car is often a very poor financial choice.
Dacia holds value better from new to second-hand
Which means nothing. This is a used car review, what you can buy second hand. So the manufacturer new price is irrelevant. For the new price of a Sandero, you could buy a Mercedes V12 CL600 if you're brave enough. Not recommended, but possible.
Škoda read Schkoda
Scala is a break, Dacia is a compact, so not apple with apple compare.
Ban-na-na-na 😀
Why was Mrs Jackson wearing here PJ's.
The rival of dacia sandero is skoda fabia ! So...Bye Bye !!
Not on price in the used car market when they are a few years old. That's the whole point of the video. These are not new cars compared on size. Just on price as a used buy.
Skoda is in a different league
fatuous review......more like a Childrens TV program from the 80's
Apologies for bringing some fun to the world with the free content Shaun! There are plenty of miserable car reviews out there if you'd prefer. -Tim
Haven't tried a Skoda ...... Tried Dacia ...... Awful
Keep Your Eyes On The Road.🤬
Why a car should have isofix in the fron when the law state’s children under 12 should be in the back
The UK law does not state that at all. All children up to 135cm tall (around 4'5"), or the age of 12, whichever comes first, seated in the front or rear of cars, vans and other goods vehicles must travel in the correct child restraint for their weight. Age is NOT the determiner. It's height and weight. Either in the front or back.
Dacia wins by a mile
One car has horsepower from 1960s, color and shape of a brick, but it has wireless apple.
The other is faster, larger inside, aerodynamic and has bigger storage space(s). Also it does not have electronic issues like every french car did since invention of electricity.
So the Rover 90 in the 1960s had a 2.6 litre engine producing 90bhp.
The Ford Zephyr had a 2.0 petrol engine producing 89bhp.
Both cars were pulling heavy car bodies.
The 3cyl 1.0 turbo Renault engined Dacia produces 89bhp and pulls a lighter car.
Same engine output, massive difference.
The Sandero is plenty fast enough.
0 to 50mph time is 8.7 seconds.
electric handbrakes are poo. Dacia will get more expensive like skoda
It has everything.... Apple carplay... 🖕
More scratchy plastic review rubbish
Stay in the Skoda, becouse Dacia is such a rubbish bin in every sence
Dacia rust buckets from new, All my Skodas have gone upwards of 200,000 mls before px.
The reason the Skoda looks like a rental is because it was😂
See, I thought that… but what rental company is picking the expensive 1.5 engine?! -Tim
@@motorpoint look at the V5 and it will tell you.
@@motorpoint Less stress on engine components than the 1.0, thus increasing reliability, plus it may have just been what was available in SKODA inventory at the time of purchase.
Additionally a rental is more likely to be carrying multiple occupants and their baggage, so the larger engine is better suited for that task.
Didnt stop me driving my 1.2 fabia 5-up to wales and back though.
Dacia has a soul. VW fridge on the junkyard.
😂🤣😂
Keep dreaming
Dacia is more nicer and more reliable..
Nobody will never be able to tell me a dacia is a good car, it's a crap cheap car all be it maybe not as crap as they used to be but still uninspiring crap interior
We’ve had our Dacia since the first lot sold in the UK in 2013 and there not bad cars, gets you from A to B and has hand stuff like the built in satnav, reversing sensors, cruise control… however there also not great cars either 😂 we had that leaking problem a lot of them had with water gathering in passenger footwell.. but you also can’t even have the windows open a crack while it’s raining because the angles of the window/frame/door makes it so it completely soaks the inside of the door from the drips 😂
I think you have to put it into perspective. Depending on what you drive. If you have a 40k car such as a Superb or an Audi, then a 12k Dacia will feel low rent and basic. But, if you've just come from a 3k 10 year old car, the Dacia won't feel so bad.
@@milliebooth9848 I would agree entirely. Dacia's use older platforms and technology from Renault. No bad thing really. Not at the forefront of automotive development, but tried and tested. Most mechanics will know and understand the faults, or the manufacturer has sorted it out during the service schedule. As for rain water getting in through front windows even if at a slight drizzle - your Dacia has a lot in common with my VW Golf 8.
At the right price Dacia are decent buys but if these are the same price used go Skoda all dsy long.
The Sandero is funny. It's a hairdryer. And all plastic crap. A car from Temu. But made with Renault, which is disgusting
Like the crap 2cv and renault 4/5/6 still going in Europe and countries today. French cars are still going strong flimsy but robust and don’t rot like German crap
You know little about cars