I bought this RARE Mercedes CL65 AMG V12 for over 90% off MSRP! Hellcat power for SUPER CHEAP!
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The CL65 AMG brings back so many memories. I remember foolishly trying to convince my parents to buy one in 2015-2016 when you could find early 08-09 cars for $40k. I thought it would be so cool to have a V-12 car in the house. I imagine they are thankful they didn't listen to me :)
😂 how old were you? I wanted my parents to get cars too, probably better they didn’t. My father’s ‘04 CRV is still going strong at like 210xxx km
W0w
Mine actually listened and foolishly bought boats and cars.. Dad was a willing participant but would blame me when the bills came in
Taking bets on whether the Car Wizard will be shopping for race horses or a private island.
Cost as much as a nice house back then
Hoovie, I saw “9500Ci” on the cluster when it started. Someone installed an Escort 9500Ci integrated radar detector and used an aftermarket module to integrate it with the factory screen and steering wheel controls. It looks like a CLEAN install!
Nice! Good eye
As a Mercedes technician, I wish The Wizard luck on this project. Such an incredible piece of engineering
how reliable or how bad were this generation of Mercs?
i have an w221 s65 which is basically the same chasis and it hasnt given me any problems except for the suspention@@sesto194
Yes would be great to know how reliable these things are?
much much more reliable than bmw of this generation. @@sesto194
@@sesto194, I'll fill you in on a little bit. Mercedes had 2, 6 cylinder banks. Each bank had all 6 coils as a single unit. When 1 coil went bad, you had to replace 6 since they came as 1 piece. You don't wanna know what that 6pc cost 😂😂😂
The facelift CL is simply the best looking mercedes benz ever in my opinion. Beautiful video Hoovie !
It would be awesome if he gave it a renntech R3 package for it.. CL are definitely overlooked. But it's technically just an s class coupe
You haven't event finished the video lol.
When did he purchase it? I don't see anything in his video history. I love this car!
Pretty bold statement
nope, facelift r230 is my fave, nothing can really come close to it for me.
Tyler…I’ve dipped my toe into your world. I purchased a 2007 S65 (the sedan version of the CL65) with 50k miles, a 1995 Jag XJS 4.0 L (as a Jag expert told me, half the cylinders of the V12…half the issues) with 30k miles and a 2000 456M.
Tried to buy a 2006 Maybach from MB of Plano (a HUGE dealer North of Dallas), but they would not sell it to me as it had strut issues ($10k each from MB) and would not pass state inspection without replacement. I assured them I was taking the car to California and knew I could buy rebuilt struts for $2,500. Unfortunately, their GM would not accept the “liability” and insisted on sending it to auction.
Back to the S65. Mine was delivered to a Latvian diplomat and sent over to the US, as he was the consulate general at the Latvian consulate in Cincinnati. Who knew there were so many Latvians in Cincinnati? The federalization cost alone was $45,000…I know, I have the invoice from the shop in Baltimore. This was done shortly after delivery of the car, under international diplomatic law. Legal loophole. It has every option (four pages) available…even some unavailable in North America…except the heated steering wheel. And…the European tune with increased speed limiter (like 175 mph)…putting the rwhp at 675+, the 19 inch 2 piece AMG/Cromodora forged wheels, rear video DVD/TV screens and the little refrigerator between the rear, fully reclining, heated, cooled massaging bucket seats. Some stuff you could only get on the Maybach in the USA.
MSRP was over $240,000.
I will give you some advice. The heater issue could be the valve up by the firewall. Ask Tavarish about this…he did a video on replacing the one in the S600 up in New Jersey in the middle of winter. The other issue on these 63s and 65s is the ABC hydraulic suspension systems. The high pressure pumps are $$$. Ask me how I know. And Wizard will kill you if you bring it to him…take it to the Ninja. There’s a place in Germany that rebuilds the components FOR Mercedes-Benz at a fraction of the price:
abcteile24.de/en/produkt-kategorie/abc-system/
Oh…and the brake rotors. Wait until you get the price on those. And they can’t be turned. Keep fresh pads on there; they’re cheap by comparison!
I am considering a low mileage 08 S65 (25k miles) and a low miles 08 s63 (50k miles). Any thought on the recurring maintenance costs and things to look out for?
Depends on the price. I would expect the S65 to be considerably more money than the S63.
If I was making the decision, I'd go for the S65. The 6.2 engine had head bolt/gasket issues. The only thing I know of with the M275 V12 was the coil packs. There's an ex-Silicon Valley engineer up in Jamestown, CA that rebuilds these for a lot less than new; last time I checked the dealer wanted about $12k for new coil packs and spark plugs...there's 24 on a S65.
But given the only V12 Mercedes still makes is the S680 Mercedes-Maybach at $400+k, you do the math on what's the more exclusive automobile...
I love the CL65, would definitely keep it over the Bentley. As another owner of a 90% depreciated aughts Mercedes, I'm not terribly objective though haha. You are right about them being on the cutting edge. My '06 W211 doesn't have quite as many features as the CL, but it sure has quite a bit for an '06. Things I wouldn't have dreamed of having in my car around the time it was new!
Supposed overheating issues has plagued that engine.
Edit: Keep the Bentley lol
Your channel has taught me one thing above all.
I couldnt afford a spark plug for any car you own.
That's okay I'm glad to have learned so much about super cars and the European imports.
My favorite of your fleet is the Maybach. Exquisite beauty!
My favourite car, the CL65! I’m lucky to get to daily drive a 2004 S600 V12 BiTurbo for the past 3 plus years and counting. The 65’s torque must be simply unreal. Happy motoring Hoovie :)
It looks like there is space to the right of that G-Wagon for a Unimog. Would be an excellent addition to that beautiful MB lineup. 😉
Would the Car Wizard work on a tractor though?
LOVE this episode. V12 BiTurbo - yes please!!!! Chrome delete - absolutely! Way to go Hoovie!
Love all your videos, but you have so many great cars in storage that you've done one or two driving videos of, that I, personally, would love to see more of! Your 599 (when it's driveable) and 911 are just a couple examples of dream cars that I'd love to hear more driving impressions of.
Definitely a tour of some of his cars, again would rule. Just like this video but a round two!
Hoovie's car videos are the best.
Maybe hoovie should start a second channel asmr driving the fleet
Wow Hoovie, outstanding score! My vote keep the Benz, they're so much more solid, and parts are usually fairly easy to obtain. Not to even mention the fact that an S Class is better built than the Bentley overall. I just picked up it's step cousin - a 2010 W221 S63 AMG with the 6.3V8. Love the channel, and Happy New Year!
Great video! Like the new garage. This video is a great demonstration of what I’d been teaching my kids. Back in the late ‘80s, when I was at university, I lusted after the Mercedes 560SL that the owner of the company I worked at had bought. Back in 1989, he spent $80,000 for the car. By the mid-2010’s I saw these for sale on Craiglist and eBay for $5,000 to $10,000. Meanwhile, had I spent that same $80,000 on a house here in Los Angeles, it would now be worth well over $1M.
That's not the new garage. That's the hangar he rents.
Same with Kansas or Minnesnowda. Back in the late 80’s had you just spent $80,000 on a house that same house today, would be worth well over $1 Million plus….
😂🤣
Hoovie's new garage is still under construction (see recent video.) This is a airport hanger that belongs to a friend of his (I think maybe his father.)
@@SoulReaper713his dad owns it.
You'd have to move out of Los Angeles or California in general to virtually ANYWHERE else for that $1M to feel like much of anything sadly.
I've had a CL for over 3 years, absolutely in love with it still now. Beautiful drive, and even better sound when straight piped
It is so coincidental. I was looking into Mercedes and BMWs that I could do a long commute without putting miles on my Denali. I was actually looking for this vehicle as I remember it from old top gear episodes. Now you have one. Its calling to me. I need one.
I have an s65 and I’m gonna tell you just get one, either the s or the cl65, trust me just do it!
19 grand for that CL65?! I feel like people forget the CL, but that generation specifically has aged extremely well. Since they never made a new one after that, it's still the newest CL you can get
They 100 % forgot about the CL, people have been sleeping on them for awhile.
Have you priced 4 struts for the ABC system on these cars? That alone is 9-10 grand in parts. There is reason these cars are worth paperweight compared to their original values after 15 years
@@za4117 Oh I know how stupid owning these types of cars can be. I've got an XLR-V for which parts just don't exist so anything that goes wrong (or even a light fender bender) basically totals it out - the whole endeavor is a bad idea, but I still like them
they actually did make another "CL" 65 later on, but the CL class just formed back into "s-class coupe". you could even get a convertible one too. however those are still fetching 80+k with clean titles.
Another great video Hoovie, if i was in your shoes, I'd keep the CL65 it just a better car all around.
All of the Mercedes parts can be picked up across town. Unlike the Bently parts, which some of them can only be picked up across the pond. Besides, the CL65 AMG is just laid out better, not to mention rare.
I was looking at one of these before I bought my CL500 with 88k. The issue for me with older CLs in general are simply the maintaince costs. As much as I love the CL65 the cost for a tune up alone is rediculous compared to the v8. Everything is expensive with these and the only saving grace is if you can do at least some of the maintaince yourself. I love mine and only paid $8700 and it was $120,000 new. So still hell of a deal for the car.
Once you do that 4k tune up the cars are worth every penny, id do it all over again for sure
That CL is one of the most beautiful MB's they made in the 00's. The SL black series beats it but man its such a timeless design.
The early 2010 cls amgs are so timeless as well
@@erikrezlman7900 The CLS C218 has the sexiest rear end ever made imo
CLs are my favourite, I can't believe how cheap they are in America compared to here in Australia
My CL500 cost $46k 3 years ago with 70k. But it was $315k new in 2007!
The cars are rubbish and no one wants the financial and mental burden of ownership. Demand or lack of it governs the price.
The cost of maintaining most pre owned Europeans in Australia is prohibitive. Although if you put aside the $ you can spend on a new garden variety suv and use that for maintenance it works out a bit better.
@@liamgross7217 and keep on top of the little things before they become a big list! Finding a trusted non-dealer specialist to work on them is a must! With the CL in Aust, some parts are not available here and have to be sourced overseas - that can mean a long wait! Surprisingly, stuff like brake pads and discs are not expensive, and the 500 does not have SBC. Most issues are caused by these things sitting for long periods - they really need to be driven regularly. Most of Hoovies cars suffer from this.
Yeah nah old mercs are trash, anything from the 2000s are now dying hard
Hi Hoovie, The water on the front floorboard, might be due to the drainage holes (right rear) on your car. I had the same problem years ago. The hose that allows the water to drain out, had a big crease in it causing the water to back up. I hope that yours is a simple fix, like mine was. Have a wonderful weekend. 😎
My cars total 1 MILLION DOLLARS!!!
In depreciation 😂
I love it
id vote to keep the CL65. fits your collection better. looks nicer imo and is much more lowkey.
long term maintenance it will prob need half the services at half the cost and a quarter of the headaches.
no matter what you choose, *tyler wins*
That Era of Mercedes had some nice models that came out. A lot of change with both mechanics and design which looked good and ran good..
Also had nearly 740 lbs of torque. I had the previous generation cl65 for a few months before flipping it. I wanted to keep it so bad but would never have been able to afford to. The pillarless cabin is just gorgeous.
Ive been buying up old Benzies, thanks for shout out man, now I can unload these old things for high prices
I am absolutely LOVING your garage right now. Perfect. My exact style. I have reliable daily’s for the wife and I but all of my others are varying stages of massively depreciated hoopties that I’ve spruced up. Living in your image.
If the SLR had been with the Stirling Moss edition design instead, as a quicker gearbox or even a manual version, not a surprise it was a 7 digit car now easily.
I had no idea the production numbers on the CL are so low!! Wow! I remember seeing a few of them in my town (Denver) black on black, of course, and a beautiful white on tan with black wheels and accents. I've always loved the huge 2 door coupes from Mercedes. I couldn't believe the twin turbo V12s they were shoveling into their cars too. I remember every person I told about the V12s AND twin turbo, they were blown away, they had no idea those were available in luxury cruisers, haha. I remember the top gear episode on this. Just roasting the rear tires!
Love the regular hoovie uploads! Keep it uppp :)
65 amgs are always so insanely cool!!
Damn a center screen that turns into a camera in 2008, and it's night vision. Now that's impressive.
Cadillac had night vision available in 2000.
Plus Distronic System which was "borrowed" by tesla for their autopilot.
Whatever happened to Hoovie's Lamborghini tractor resurrection? Ian Tyrell from 'Tyrrell's Classic Workshop' just featured one he rebuilt in a video and it made me remember Tyler's.
Also on the Bentley Continental, your scuttle drains need to be cleared out which is why your passenger floorboard leaked. This can lead to major problems if you don't fix it like replacing a flooded ECU or kessy system for $$$$. Process is fairly simple and detailed on 6speed forums
I remember when Jeremy clarkson reviewed this car, it was an epic episode... Also i think that charlie Harper had one, and is impressive how modern mercedes were influenced by this car
Watching Tyler go from making awkward car videos to casually showing us $1 million dollars worth of cars is amazing. Our boy hoovie sure came a long way, I got mad respect for this man... 💯
You can check the sunroof seal by taking a strip of paper and running it around the rubber gap. A little bit of leakage is normal you can check the sunroof drains by using plastic weed eater line just run it down through whichever drain tubes you can get access to. Then make sure water can flow out of the drains.
My 2011 E550 is built like an S
4matic, Air suspension, smooth V8 engine, massage seats with perforated leather, rear sunshade, active seat Bolstering,
Harden Karden sound system, tons of leg room, beautiful wood with aluminum accents.
I love it.
For 2008 this car was so far ahead of its time and competition. I love my SL55, and I believe the CL shares the same ABC suspension system, except version 2. FAR more reliable as long as these cars are driven.
I love the ABC in my S55. Incredible comfort and also handling in a large car.
I love the ABC in my S55. Incredible comfort and also handling in a large car.
I love the ABC in my S55. Incredible comfort and also handling in a large car.
I love the ABC in my S55. Incredible comfort and also handling in a large car.
I love this generation of the CL, glad you got one!
Awesome as always.Thanks for sharing and taking us along
I love these videos because you can find older luxury sport coupes like this with supercar power for an affordable price and it’s still a good looking car for someone that can’t afford a new AMG way cool
Is this the cl65 with the $15.000 one dollar o ring
CL is still one of the most beautiful cars on the road. Whenever I see one I still have to stare. Remember they had a CL600 too! Absolutely lovely.
That CL63 with the NA V8, hit just right.
Keep the Benz after sorting it out! I have an 04 CL600 and have been chasing the 65s for a while just due to its rarity.
Great video. I was just looking at some of your old Mercedes videos just having bought one myself 2 days ago. Got myself a 2013 C63 AMG and absolutely love it.
When I used to valet cars we had one regular who had one of these. We stacked cars in that car park so needed to take keys sometimes. CL65 man was always pretty reluctant to hand his over. Needless to say I always took good care of it.
Retro Hoovie is back! I love it when Tyler buys an old Mercedes 🫡
The 3rd gen CL is one of the most beautiful Mercedes ever made, great choice
Check the rear subframe. Any rust that creates an hole in the frames means free warranty replacement of the frame. they will replace it even if fixed before.
I got to drive a handful of these at the dealership fairly short distances but they definitely felt extra. The rock of the chassis with a blip of the throttle and the air bladders in the seat were wild.
Just the thought of the amount of money car insurance alone is for the fleet makes me feel all types of broke haha love you hoovie
He runs a dealer plate on most of them
I actually love that CL65. I’d love to own one.
Love this for you my man a fellow 216 owner it’s our best kept secret and astonishly practical due to the lack of a b pillar
You get such good deals! Awesome. You also have Wizard to keep you up and running, and his prices are very reasonable. Neither of these are available here in Alaska......
That CL is one of the most beautiful Mercedes ever made. Absolutely stunning
Did he sell the SLS?
The blower motor is controlled by a SAM unit under the hood. I had mine repaired for a few hundred dollars.
The CL65 always impressed me along with that 6.0 v12. I valeted and we had a member with a 2008 with 189,000 miles on the original motor and rebuilt trans.
I remember seeing these when I worked at Mercedes…those cars had such a presence. That back end is so sexy! That v12 is so epic. I drove a w220 s65 with that engine and it pulled so freaking hard!
The CL of this generation is definitely up there as one of the most beautiful Mercedes cars and idk if its just me but I actually like the CL600 with its totally under the radar look more than the CL65. Nevertheless, good purchase!
Great to see you working again! CLS AMG 65 is a perfect purchase. $19,000 is very cheap compared to the price of an S6 or S7. It seems like sports sedans are out and sports SUV's are in. Every time I drive my MDX I wish I was driving my sports sedan. The MDX is purely for cargo capacity (don't get me started with the lack of full-sized station wagons). I think an S6 V8 is in my near future because your CLS65 is just tooooo bespoke for my wife-cost-of-repair-justification wallet.
I said it before...a BEAST!! I ran one from Florida to NJ...95 on 95!! 80 to 130 was a quick stap of the throttle. Best sounds of that exhaust!!
Love this video 😻 thanks hoovie hooking us Benz enthusias with dope video
I noticed that the SLS wasn't included
Because the SLS has not depreciated that much.
Moral of the story? Don't by a new mercedes.
My 2002 Buick LeSabre's blower motor is on the fritz as well. I usually rap it with my brush/scrapper and it starts right up. Though it sounds weird but I'll work after that.
Excellent video. The S class Mercedes is a great example on why I don’t like people ever referring to Teslas as luxury cars. Nothing from Tesla would ever compared to the quality, manufacturing, engineering, materials, and pedigree in an S class Mercedes.
the cl has the best wheels acailable for the model but WOW they look awful in chrome
It's interesting how the SLR depreciated in value but the SLS has generally appreciated in value. Especially the Black series SLS
You can buy a continental any day of the week. Having a twin turbo AMG V12 coupe is something of beauty. Keep the CL65 around please! A new set of wheels will change you’re opinion on the car
All these baller cars and I can’t take my eyes off the 72 Blazer. That’s the one you should buy.
That's his car already lol!
He bought it a couple years ago
10:59 christmas trees lights flashing on dashboard (check engine, ABS, TRAC) LOL
Great buy, Hoovie - I own the W221 cousin to your new ride, an '07 S65 AMG. You'll never get tired of the cold start sounds from that V12 ( I know I don't!)
Nice ride. The pillar delete two dr is perfecto look
The AC control head is probs on the fritz, similar issue in my E63. Easily identified through the star diagnostic tool when bypassing the control head.
I remember seeing a 90's SL600 take of from a light just ahead of us and couldnt believe how it disappeared with almost no sound!
I had an 08 CL600 back in the day. An exhaust and a tune and you could almost match the AMGs performance. Miss it dearly. I do not miss replacing the coil rails though (look it up, if you’re unfamiliar)
Since you have the luxury of living with both cars and having a mechanic to review the pros and cons, I'm wondering which one you'll keep. They both have pros and cons to contend with. From what I know about both, I would probably opt for the CL65 and then toss some higher end speakers inside. FWIW.
Great to see you back. Love your videos 😊
I think Tyler Is at his absolute best when he's really into the collector metrics.
These are amazing cars. They were selling them at the dealer when I worked in the service department. Monstrous engine for it's day. I believe they could actually beat a Porsche 911 (of it's day) in the 1/4 mile. Only just, but what a machine!
I’ve a 2008 CL600, bought in part because of your S600 videos back in the day. These cars (2007-11 S and CL) spoiled me for much anything else.
My grandmothers brother have a cl65 and it was owned by Zlatan Ibrahimovic which is pretty cool, he have it in his car museum here in Sweden called ”Motala Motormuseum”
Multi million dollar car collection and you still be uploading in 1080p in 2024. Come on Hoovie!
CL 65 looks beautiful. Always loved the pillarless coupes Mercedes Builds.
V12s are my favorite Mercedes engines, and I rarely see them. The 600-series from the 90s through 2013 have always been my dream cars.
I personally like the looks and the overall packaging of the CL65. If you’re looking for a winter beater, then the Bentley (AWD) makes more sense. If it were my decision to make, I’m keeping the Mercedes.
even tho the CL-65 AMG depreciated by 90%, i am pretty sure the cost to maintain and repair it has not gone down 90% lol. as beautiful as this car is i would be nervous owning it knowing how expensive it is to maintain
Lol when you spoke about the badges I just had to laugh. I see so many trim kits on cars here in the UAE. ZL1 kits, Audi RS Kits, Hellcat kits, AMG Kits…even seen some Honda Civic Type R ones. It’s more common to see a car with a kit rather than the real thing.
1. Keep the cl dump that Bentley.
2. Compare that cl to the newer cl convertible in the hanger. I’d like to see what the newer version gets you for $$ and if it’s worth it or not. Favorite channel by far.
These four fabulous cars are from the best MB design era! And the VorMoPf-CL (CL before facelift) like this is one of the best looking cars of all time!
Does Hoovy remember the $0.50 O-ring? I had a 2010 CL65 and sold it after I watched Hoovy mechanically total his other CL65 due to that O-ring that needed $10,000 in labor to replace. Previous generation, pretty much the same engine though...Just watch LegitStreetCars on his effort to replace that O-ring.
I thought the same, even though I have 2 amgs, I'd still go with the Bentley, early 2000's mercs are time bombs.
I love the sound of the AMG V12. and if You have the AMG Drivers Package You can go nearly 200 mph.
That CL Merc just does it for me, & @ 20,000$ its tempting but I don't have you're resources to keep it running.Nearly a perfect looking car design wise & still looks modern.
I just bought a 1999 E430 sport in black. One owner with 110k miles. Just did the motor mounts. It’s really nice for a 25 year old vehicle.
I love the previous gen CL, still looks good!
Amazon sells car heaters and ac units for $20 if you need to defrost window.. but you have it parked in a Hanger so should be good for the most part
I love that Hoovie is going strong.
That's kind of hard to believe he got that for $20,000 I've been looking for a CL amg 65 everywhere for that price and I can't even find that all of them selling for $30,000 Plus
Accident history.
Just tell him to keep the Bentley 😂. So u can get the Merc😂