The Killer: Fincher Makes Fun of Himself? (Review)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ต.ค. 2023
- The Killer is the new film directed by David Fincher and I can't say I didn't enjoy it. While not perfect, I think it succeeds for the most part in what it sets out to do.
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Stick to the plan. Anticipate, don't improvise. Trust no one. Never yeald an advantage. Fight only the battle you're paid to fight. Forbid empathy. Empathy is weakness. Weakness is vulnerability. Each and every step of the way, ask yourself, "What's in it for me?" This is what it takes. What you must commit yourself to. If you want to succeed. Simple.
New personality just dropped 🔥
@@TruestPictureUntil you lie around sun bathing with your girlfriend that is😅😅😅
@@TruestPicture need Ryan Gosling in main role
@@OKORADOFassbender did great job.
*misses the shot*
I love how anti-glamourous this movie is. And it shows how even the profession of an assassin for hire can be as mundane and boring as shit as any other job. Until it s not. No one whacks 50 guys in a club in one go, no big explosion at the end, no mega car chases. Just a sociopath doing his job. Definitely a sleeper cult film. I m calling it right now.
People who are used to the Wick type of action flick found this one boring unfortunately.
It feels like a weaker (You were never really there).
@@cptpepper7731Wick type? You said that like John Wick was bad 😂. Wick the apex of a good time action
Nah, I hate to disagree. There isn;t enough here to warrent any cult like following.. This is no Fight Club. This is 3/4th hitman tropes we have all seen before and 1/4th deeper meaning hidden sadly way to deep for most people to even grasp. Not that I think its a BAD movie, I think its a bad STORY. Much too simple of a revenge plot. Like someone else said, its like John Wick without the fun action and lore parts that make it you know, fun and engaging...
@@stalwartzero7001 sure it was if you’re a 14 year old with ADHD. For the rest of us who like to see a plot and acting and not watch video games it was boring af.
'new literally me character' haha. Yeah I can see how one could find Fassbender's character inspirational. Which is kind of hillarous given that he's playing a sociopath. He plays the role relatably however and that's the point. That's why the movie is so engaging.
Yeah these white Incels and Loner will love this movie 😅
People also say the same about Tyler durden
He does care about ppl tho - he does alot in revenge for his girlfriend getting hurt - so sometimes lacking empathy sure, but he is a hypocrite, he says empathy is bad whilst having it
Any good looking social awkward character is literally me character it’s not that deep these incels are simple
@@invertedexistence I must’ve triggered you with my comment lol sorry you’re an incel who lives through literally me characters
It's interesting that Fincher has made a revenge film where the protagonist has absolutely zero moral high ground. He makes a living killing people without actually caring if they deserve this fate and kills completely innocent people on his way to avenging his girlfriend. It's an interesting and I suppose brave choice to remain true to the character, but it really risks alienating the audience from this character. Having said all that... I loved it !
Couldn't agree more
I thought the same thing after the cab scene. I wanted him to get his revenge, even though he just killed an innocent person
movie is called the killer so the audience should be aware from the start they might not sympathize with the protagonist at all times
Have you met a certain type of guy...they will identify with this character
Watched it today (there is only one theater showing this where I live). Really enjoyed it. As you said, "simple" in a way, but elaborate nonetheless. There aren't many directors who could pull this off. It is brutal and sarcastic, but doesn't glorify the character as a "hero" or anything like that.
This movie sucks
Yes perfect film about a person that takes pride in how meticulous they are and how rigidly they stick to their principles..... meanwhile they spend the whole movie going breaking all of their self mandated rules, while showing on multiple occasions that they are not as smart as they think they are. It was awesome. Watched it 3 times already and can't wait to see it more and talk about it more.
The non-perfect result, as a bait and switch of movie perfection is a device I always appreciate in a movie. I often remember watching the South Korean movie The Chaser (very dark, you have been warned), which I watched probably 10 years ago, and being absolutely struck by actors being very out of breath during a chase scene with no convenient cutting, or having an awkward less than perfect very human fight scene, where you felt the outcome was genuinely unpredictable...you suddenly realise nearly all Western productions are just *incredibly* convenient and pandering to the audience they assume we are. Any movie which actively avoids as many tropes as possible (or mocks them, as this one does) deserves success.
actually, in terms of plot/writing, this also reminds me of many David Gemmel books (a real guilty pleasure of fantasy writing), and it was equally rewarding/fun there...he would invest pages and pages outlining the absolute perfection and dominance of a character prior to a battle, only for you the turn the last page to read they had died, swiftly and unceremoniously. The botched outcomes this character wanders through is a lot like that and has you thinking about similar themes. Nothing in this universe is certain, and our arrogance will never defeat death.
The Killer’s sigma brand of efficiency, sociopathy and self-righteous I don’t give a fuck energy and the fact that he loves the smiths makes me think this is too on the nose to be sincere, this has to be parodying the embarrassing legacy of mental defectives thinking Patrick Bateman, Driver and Homelander are role models.
Definately what I picked up too. Spending 20 minutes describe how he’s perfect at his job only to fuck up
I saw it as a response to John Wick
Absolutely think the same. There were so many shots and dialogue dedicated to showing the hypocrisy of the Killer. As if to say, even in this context, that kind of worldview isn’t even feasible.
Perfect late night screening on 14th Street, in Manhattan. For me, the film was about "Excellence," both from the character's point-of-view, and from the filmmaker's. Attention to Detail is both mocked and promoted as the proper use of intelligence. Later, walking out onto vacant New York streets, I had the "high-hacked senses" experience which follows a viewing of Fincher.
The killer is a perfectionist, but when he makes a mistake he feels the need to let the man at the top know(in the only way he can) that it won't happen again,that he's still the best.Fassbender's character believes this but Fincher doesn't.
I think the killer doesn't believe it too by the end, he goes from saying that he is among the few in the starting of the movie to saying he is among the many by the end of it.
@@Maab134he says this but then has a twitch. Does he believe what he just said?
@@JohwellStCilienfilm the reason he twitch while saying that because it was a sour truth for him but truth nonetheless
I found it Very Boring after a promising start ( a great sniper scene)...very disappointed, and I am a Smith's Fan.
I thought it was funny the way he used multiple names of old tv show characters like Howard Cunningham or Oscar Madison and nobody caught on. It was like an Easter Egg hunt trying to catch all his aliases.
it definitely is a return to form, a meticulous psychopathic dissection of a thriller satirizing modern culture. i like how there's multiple narratives running at the same time; you have the action on screen, the internal monologue spouting stoic intentions and exposition, the mise-en-scene of precise music and set design, and when the stories contradict, it's pure genius. the comedic effect whenever he recites his mantra to himself as the action on screen is going the complete opposite direction. the audience thinks it's a narrator addressing the 4th wall but really it's an unreliable narrator trying to convince himself and justify each moment in live action--like tyler durden was the actual bad guy (yes, people!) despite the unreliable "narrator" being just as unhinged, two sides of the same coin.
i think the final scene sums up the whole movie for me, the subtle subversion from the start of the film as one of the few to ending as one of the many and the very deliberate twitch as the screen cuts out of "relaxes in retirement."
I wish it would have been a little longer, actually. I wanted to learn more about "The Killer."
sequal... dare i say
I think the point is that there is no character development, for the killer, his girlfriend, or anyone in the film for the that matter. Basically the killer is the protagonist, not because we have any reason to take his side over anyone else's, but because the camera follows him.
If we learn about him, it kinda defeats the purpose.
What caught me off guard was the handheld and very shaky scene when he gets home, Fincher never does that, he always even stabilizes most moving shots.
It's deliberate. To show that, for an instance, the cold calculated Killer was actually startled.
@@VincentStevenStudio I know, but he’s never done it and has made multiple films and series about killers.
That handheld look was done in post and I thought that was the most distracting aspect of the film.
Funniest bit was when he explained why he dresses the way he does, "I dress like a German tourist, everyone avoids German tourists." Weird how German tourists dress like they're from Florida...people should avoid tourists from Florida too.
I can never listen to The Smiths the same way again.
LOL while I was watching this, I couldn't help thinking "this is a movie about HIM (Fincher), isn't it?" Haha great video!
Put my car in for a service, had time to kill, ate a McDonalds breakfast roll, ironic. It was 11am, midweek, more time to kill, went to the cinema, picked The Killer, even though I thought it wasn’t my type of film. I was the only person in the cinema screen, solitary. Sat through the usual adverts and trailers, then the film started and for fifteen minutes or so as Fassbender narrated I thought ‘oh no, I’m not going to enjoy this.’ Then Fassbender’s hit went wrong, the mundane became frenetic, Fassbender’s character stopped being the cold calculating impersonal killer for hire and became the cold calculating killer bent on revenge and survival in a very personal way. I was hooked. No spoilers. I came out the cinema having really really enjoyed the film. Had a late lunch, picked up car, went home, the end.
I thought it was brilliant, definitely entertaining in that it keeps you engaged the whole way through. The thing I took away most from it was that Fincher clearly knows what he is aiming for and the film never tries to be something it isn't. That’s where so many films lose me these days. Sometimes you can make a good movie without some message, cause sometimes that's what you want- to just switch your conscious brain off and enjoy. 👍🏽👍🏽
I would like to believe that metaphorically, it is about work-life balance.
Loved the analysis. Following you on Letterboxd.
The Killer's hitman is like a guy who watched too many movies where hitmen were the main character and is really trying to be those cold, methodical, almost autistic killers in those movies, but he really just isn't that guy if he's being honest with himself. He's actually very emotional and empathetic and reactionary.
exactly. Doing this kind of thing required him to shed his humanity, even though he was in great need of it. Subconciously, he wanted to miss the shot in the beginning, because he grew tired of forcing himself to be an emotionless apathetic husk just to achieve material success.
Reading some reviews on IMDb I guess we have to wait a ten-year period or so before the common viewer realizes that this is a brilliantly acted and executed masterpiece.
The beginning monologue was perfection and the dinner scene
In 2004, Fassbender got experience playing a role like this in a one-off Sherlock Holmes movie, origins of acting in psychopath mode; he's so damn good at it, kinda scary.
Spot on! This was my reaction to the film as well. Very Fincher-meta. But sadly it feels like Fincher´s best work is in the passed. This is like a commentary, not a whole movie.
As a comment on the same note - This film is quite like Mann´s Collateral. But that film is so much better.
@@haraldcarlsten6238collateral is levels above this. It's actually insulting that they are being compared
Have you read the graphic novel? Any insight as to how it compares?
Didn't know about it until this film came out, so unfortunately I can't say. I wouldn't be surprised if fincher was more loose with his adaptation.
The Killer reminds me of American Psycho- very focused, meticulous in his planning and “dead inside”…great qualities to have for a killer I’d imagine.
NOPE it's not conscious decision, not a smart meta modernistic approach. It's just LAZY WRITTEN. Main character super assassin, yoga instructor, part time philosopher fueled by McDonalds meals and thoughts of Nietzsche acts like incompetent idiot when it pushes plot forward. Makes stupid mistakes that bring hell upon his girlfriend so he resolves it all with violence - going onto killing spree, actually filled with few other examples of contradictive to what is established about him - incompetence / stupidity. Parody coming out of titular character incompetence is unintentional. Why? Cos it's based on series of french graphic novels where we can find meta-storytelling but it's not parody of genre.
I think it is really good movie . The end just falters for me. It just doesn’t fit somehow. One of his lesser work but still enjoyable. I was gripped the whole time ❤❤❤
Great review..
My only complaint ( like yourself) for the type of storyline, the movie seemed to drag in a few parts and could have been trimmed a bit...
I’m old, so in a theatre full of people, me and one other guy got the running gag with the credit cards...
Still glad I saw it on the big screen...👍
Luckily I’m a big Fincher fan and honestly I’m excited for this one. There’s very little chance of a cinema screening here in South Africa, so Netflix will have to do.
The Killer Vs The Brute is the best fight scene I have ever scene in a film.
I really hope there will be a digital or Blu ray release for this film
by the way, it's not a "revenge" movie, it's a "cleanup operation" movie.
Watched it twice in three days. I think this might low key be the 2023 movie I end up seeing the most.
It really gets under your skin.
one of the movies of this year. A great comeback of Ficher. In love of the movie, its amazing
Love this type of movie (and thus how Fincher operates, I guess) although this one still left me somewhat unsatisfied with parts of the writing/depiction of the killer and things along those lines. Things that felt contrived as you said. And a big general issue these days is there is too much marketing / hype, so you're bound to be let down by the actual product as it could never meet those expectations.
GUYS! NINE INCH NAILS! Trent Reznor! How is nobody talking about it??? Especially the brute part 1, is so good. Spoiler (Btw I think there is reference to NIN when the killer uses them to torture the lawyer.)
Reznor has been Fincher's composer for many years now, he did Gone Girl, Social Network, Mank, etc.
Besides, he's done many other film scores as well, it's not surprising he composed for _The Killer_
Yeah I got the NIN ref immediately!
PLUS all the Aliases passports NOBODY GOT!
Howard Cunningham -
Lou Grant-
Sam Malone-
George Jefferson -
All comedy character names on TV shows.
Is this an adaptation of the french comic?
I like how he likes to make and break his own rules.
Love the video, this movie is definitely growing on me.
This movie was fantastic. I’ve watched it twice so far and appreciated it even more the second viewing.
I liked it, there's lot's of technical stuff (Such as the 'gym card cloning' scene - yes, it's that easy...) to keep us pentester geeks pleased. And yeah, there's a few subtle gags - 'dressing like a German tourist' and the joke about the storage containers.
Great video. I wholeheartedly agree with you.
Eh ... I liked it.
One thing that bothered me though was that he took the shot that hit the girl that allowed his target to get away. To me - the chances she would move in front of the target - as she did - were to great for him to take the shot just then.
What? Did he run out of patience? Had he been there so long - he wanted to get it over with and took a shot he shouldn't have?
???
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Very interesting perspective. I like how the movie was shot, the light and everything. But I have to be honest that I took the main character a bit too serious. I didn't think it can be a parody. Now I kinda see it with different eyes. I admit I liked the edginess of the character in the beginning. And actually thought ", damn, this dude is a cold blooded professional". Although not "literally me" I took the main character too serious, as I said. I was impressed by the methodical and selfish approach to things he had. The calmness he showed. I actually said to myself "I wanna be as disciplined, calm, and unempathethic as this guy". But in fact it seems that the killer is not actually what he wanted us to think he is
I didn’t know it was Fincher. I just threw it on. I kept saying this feels like fight club lol. But you’re right about how he fumbles but talks like he’s perfect. I wonder if he was cast because of playing David.
As a huge Fincher fan, this movie was a big disappointment, boring, cliché and uninteresting and the character motivations make no sense. The only good thing about this movie is a fight scene.
Fincher literally said himself there is no hidden meaning in the movie nor he is making fun of himself or anyone.
I think this is a rare but very cohesive film. From the start it tells you something like "if you are easily bored, this career isn't for you", anticipating the film is going to be slow. It has some very anti-structure things: it takes some time before anything interesting happens; the objective isn't very explained; the motivation is barely seen during the film (we don't feel why the character does what he does; why he fights); there's not much action; and the ending lacks a sense of escalation, or a climax. On the other hand, you could say that there IS some structure there: it has an inciting incident; a 1st plot point; an objective and a little motivation; the character's actions advance the plot forward...
But all that gets justified with the film's theme and conceptual conflict. It's a struggle between the PLAN/EXECUTION (the very disciplined and cold protagonist) and CHAOS/IMPROVISATION (all the things that can ruin the plan). The character barely has a heart, so the film doesn't have a lot of that neither (motivation). Instead of action, we get suspense. Fincher gets us into the character's mind, observing our environment, the victims and potential challenges. And there's plenty of that throughout the film. The conflict even begins because of 1 thing that went wrong, badly executed, not acording to the plan. The rest of the movie is about fixing that; trying to have the most perfect execution against all odds. PLAN; PLAN; PLAN. The film's cover even says "Execution is everything". In this case in particular, style IS substance. Screenplay and direction are beautifully complemented.
Fincher is back alright.
Watched yesterday and it's an incredibly bland and boring film, there was no real character development, the movie gave you zero reason to actually give a shit what was happening with the plot or the characters. I was really hoping something interesting like a twist was going to happen because it's a Fincher movie, but it never came. I finished the movie feeling nothing, while other Fincher films you can't stop thinking about. He really dropped the ball on the film, I don't know why some of you guys are giving this film a high review.
The atmosphere of this film definitely reminds me of Drive, they’re just somehow give off a sense of calmness and intensity altogether
I loved Mank.
I like this film probably better than all Pincher's work. Putting a wonky guy in a James Bond / Borne Identity world is just so funny and brilliant.
Hopefully they make a part 2
and you didnt even touch on the sound design.....
Its a film about being a director, or any other highs stakes business tansaction. The killers makes a mistake he knows and has learned from exp not to make. Yet he still makes it. Just to feel safe and secure back at home he has to kill everyone involved and cut all ties just to correct the mistake and make sure it never bothers his life again. Another lesson learned for his neurotic inter dialogue.
Hope he never gets Oscar for any movies that he makes from now on. Yes i am that petty and sore about him for bailing out on Mindhunter.
Mindhunter was on track to be my favorite show, so I get it. But I suspect Netflix is likely more responsible for the abandonment of the show cuz it wasn't as profitable. It's all about the bottom line with these lame ass streaming platforms 😞
Him bailing on Mindhunter was a huge let down, but then finding out he bailed on Mindhunter to make crap like this is just like a huge kick in the nuts.
He didnt bail on mindhuter, netflix canceled it
this was 2023's best comedy and everyone missed it
Good/Great craftmanship. Good/Great performances. The story sucks. The premise is not believable. You sit in the movie theatre thinking “Be careful not to kill the girl… Be careful, you might kill the girl… Be care… I told you!”. That stupid mistake does not fit Fassbender´s meticulous character. If the writers wanted him to fail, they should have come up with something else. The story is not boring, because you are always expecting something unexpected to happen. Nothing unexpected happens. He kills everyone he wants to kill, and then he gets back to his girlfriend. Unfortunately, another movie story you will easily forget. Fortunately, a piece of work you can dissect and learn from.
I think he goes off the rails because he's never screwed up before.
You are so right in that summary though -- you're kinda waiting for the other shoe to drop, but he is absolutely successful in his goal without failure.
Even when he makes a second fuckup by mis-calculating his employer's time to die, he IMMEDIATELY has a plan B by interrogating his secretary.
Completely agree, I have no idea what compelled Fincher to pick up this completely bland and uninteresting story, it's by far the most boring Fincher movie I've ever watched. There's nothing that happens in the film that actually makes you care about what will happen with the plot or the characters. Fincher really let me down with this movie.
Actually, he does fail. He’s attacked in his targets house in Florida when he thought he didn’t know he was there.
'The Killer' (comic) by Matz and Luc Jacamon was perfection! If this is even half as good, you are going to have a good time!
Tedious film. Fanboy toss doesn’t make it better.
influenced by other (much older) movies: 1967 "Le Samourai" and 1973 "The day of the Jackal": Hitman procedural.
Boring, an unrealistic plot if you keep in mind that he is supposed to be a cold blooded, well organized killer.
SPOILERS
He put his pulse over the time window of execution so he missed several opportunities to eliminate his target. He is so professional and kept staying in the same house were his gf was beaten up? He stayed in the hospital despite the other would probably know it He did not kill his main target, Why? Was the client trust worthing? He spents problably an hour and listen to this unmeaningful story in the restaurant to kill her, why ? And she has no protection at all? That seems very dumb to me. And so far and so on.
I think a rewatch could help you. Maybe.
@@jotade2098 Don't talk to me in riddles.
@@tomate3391 Some of the "plot holes" in your first post are answered in the film. Others just didn't happen in the plot, some even don't make sense at all. So i assumed you didn't pay much attention while watching the movie, hence i suggested a rewatch.
the movie had a lasting impact on me , maybe its the cinematography and Fincher's direction coupled with Fassbender's presence , that never lets you take your eyes of the screen
It is a good film, slick and cold. But lack emotional impact most Fincher films have.
LOVED THIS FLICK😳👍🏾! The fight scene was EPIC💪🏿
Watched this yesterday afternoon. It was an ok little thriller but to be honest it didn't make any sense. (Spoilers ahead). Why did he mess up the job in the first place? He had plenty of time to take at least two more shots after he accidentally shot the prostitute. He has all these storage lockers with guns and passports in them but he doesn't have any poison? He has to go to the CVS and buy sleeping pills to drug the dog? Lol. The lawyer's secretary literally has a Rolodex with the addresses of all the assassins in it? He kills the lawyer, his secretary and the Florida assassin and burns the house down and word didn't get to Tilda Swinton that something was up? I'm just listing a couple of things from a long long list of things that made this movie quite ridiculous.
I loved the movie and I loved that fight. But even though the lighting looks cool as hell in the fight, I couldn't help but think it's just sexy camo to hide that it isn't Fassbender. But it's a cooler way to do it than most directors do. IDK I'm conflicted on the fight.
It’s was so good, I wanted more. Way more.
It was only shown at a cinema far away from me, which ist real strange. I am sure it's because its not a mainstream type of film, but still.
I'm like "Wait it's funny?". Surprising for sure
I loved how this movie didn't portrayed an international assassin as this glamorous diva that drives super cars and dates mega models left and right in the most touristic destinations possible. Just imagine you're there to kill some high profile target and you literally have all eyes pointing at you as you drive your Red Ferrari on a 10k usd suit and a is accompanied by a super model as you walk into the party you will supposedly stealth kill your target.
This movie goes the other way completely, bland clothes, boring and mundane cars, attract as least attention as possible, the protagonist legit pretends to be a german tourist in Paris because Parisians avoid german tourists like one avoid the plague.
if anything this is the most "realistic" movie I've ever seen about an international assassin and how he does his work
Felt like an longer episode of dexter directed by finch
this is not a crime thirller... Reptile is a crime thriller.... this is an amazing action movie
I think this is a hypnotically boring film with a clever technical trick. Fassbinder has very little screen dialog, so he didn't have to learn lines, Fincher didn't have to record him speaking, and by making most of the exposition voice over, it meant he could redo some or all of the narration if he decided he didn't like it in post without reshoots.
Since Fischer has said his entire career is based on people being Perverts, it would be fun for him to do a comedy. We already know he has a wicked sense of humor that rarely gets unleashed. I mean, can you imagine David Fincher's "Barbie" with narration by Ken? Ken is an assassin who leaves to kill people then hides in Barbieland until Barbie decides to see the real world and Ken goes along to protect her, knowing there are people looking for him. "Stick to the Beach." "Don't trust anyone who isn't beautiful." "I'm just Ken, and you're going to know it before I'm done..."
I'm going to have to rewatch this because I felt like I watched a completely different movie.
I was bored watching this movie. So many scenes where it's just Fassbender looking at something or someone, and then a shot of the person he's watching, then back to Fassbender.
I was waiting for the movie build up ANY momentum but it never felt like it did. When he mis-shoots and it all goes to hell I was expecting things to be picked up, but then five minutes later we're back to monotone narration and I didn't really "get" what to root for or have a clear idea about what the characters goals were... and didn't particularly care for the characters. What does this movie stand for? Just seems like sheer voyeurism. The main character just feels very passive.
Feels like there's just something missing from the story, a supporting plot/B plot etc. Like in Seven a side-plot is Paltrow's character's attitude to the environment, which ultimately, cruelly, feeds back into the finally.
Also I can usually suspend my disbelief for movies but there's so many times where this guy should have been caught.
It feels very "convenient" much of the time.
It's Jason Bourne without heart/emotion of Marie and the mystery of his origin.
It's John Wick without the initial momentum from the pet killing... or the interesting secret society.
brilliant insight
Good movie. However, I did take issue with the way the movie skims over these narrative points but completely forgets to commit to them in any meaningful way.
*SPOILERS*
Namley, the disconnect between his inner dialogue and what he's doing. They're kinda opposed....but this is done so subtely, it doesn't really feel like it matters.
UNTIL his meeting with Swinton, where she directly asserts that the Killer is kinda kidding himself and his sub-conscious is actually doing this revenge quest for another reason.
Subsequently, the Killer intentionally doesn't kill his final target....but it's not exactly clear why. Did he somehow learn empathy? Again, why exactly?
And the final scene has this schmaltzy admission that he's now "one of the many" and not "one of the few"....again, what? So you're suddenly human now....why? Is it because he's not a contract killer anymore?
Now...the fact I'm so inquisitive about the movie shows it has worked on some level. But that's because parts of it (cinematography, Fassbender's performance) are excellent. The story/script does it such a massive disservice.
I think the point was that no matter how hard he tried to scrub away all the humanity within himself, he couldn't.
We are not robots and make mistakes and have misconceptions about our own selves.
Especially for people who look at themselves highly as "professionals."
By the end he had broken all his own rules for the rage he felt because he knew love.
I think you're trying to see an arc where there isn't one and maybe that's Fincher's intention. His admission that he is "one of the many" is a reveal to us but not necessarily new to him, he says at the beginning "you should do all you can to be one of the few, instead of one of the many" but he doesn't claim he's part of the few, he has no flash even when he goes home he wears inconspicuous clothes, he works constantly and is well aware he's not the only hitman working for this group and he doesn't perceive himself as special, he admits in the same monologue that he isn't a genius. He uses this mantra of having no empathy but the girl he is with at the end is clearly a long term relationship, he knows her brother and he rushed to the hospital immediately to see her, he's always been empathetic to her. That mantra is just how he approaches work not every aspect of his life, he has compartmentalized it, just like Tilda Swinton's character, she's referred to as the Expert and is shown to be just as cold as him but she goes to the same restaurant frequently and knows the staff personally. Before he goes to the billionaire at the end he says something to the effect of "police tend to align their efforts with the victims net worth" meaning he is aware that killing him is a big risk and there's little to nothing in it for him so he settles for scaring him and walks away and it's likely that was his intention from the beginning because when he buys the gun he doesn't buy any ammo. I think this is his first time doing a job for personal reasons but I don't think he's changed, what's in it for him is revenge and safety for his girlfriend as everyone who knows about her is dead at the end, I don't believe he actually breaks any of his rules throughout the film if you look closely. I think his character is designed to subvert the expectation that protagonists are supposed to have an arc.
@@AGD_27perfect...you understood the movie very well
You managed to miss not only the main point, but several points of this film. That's actually hard to do.
@@AGD_27 great analysis, made me look at the film again from a different perspective
I absolutely loved this movie. Probably will watch multiple times.
The aliases were hilarious.
This movie is pretty good! The character development, script was awesome!!...idk why some people are calling it a Mid
This is my new personality :D Loved the movie. Def 23 fav.
I ended up thoroughly enjoying the film although I felt like finchers coldness and his directing style with the incredibly cold distant character made any kind of emotional connection that springboards the revenge tale feel empty. But beyond that it's impeccably done the sound is my favorite part of this one little things like the score being really experimental to it really being in first person anything he's hearing in first person we hear very loudly and anytime it shifts focus It's from his POV it does the same with the sound which was such a cool stylistic choice. What did blend beautifully was finchers meticulous detail with everything he's famous for taking dozens of takes with this characters meticulousness I also enjoyed his inner monologue would contradict what he's doing quite a lot in the film and I think that's great. It's kind of a revenge movie but it's also in that moment when his girlfriend gets hurt and he tells her brother this will never happen again yeah he's getting revenge of the people that hurt her but he's also getting rid of anybody that knew who he was so he can retire to ensure this never happens again. Overall another fantastic Fincher film Even if I wish there was a little more to make me emotionally invested in his plight.
I like your synopsis.
Good but not great. Fincher not trying too hard is still better than most director's best efforts.
Fintcher mentioned it’s about Unreliable Narrators
glad I was able to catch this in cinema
he is literally me
I may need to watch it a couple more times but I wasnt as immediately impressed with this latest film. I felt like there was a lot of filler. there was so much time spent just watching the killer travel, just driving, flying, more driving, and more driving. Overall it delivers pretty well and I liked it, but it might be my least favorite fincher film besides Mank at this point. that could change though. I just think the overall story was not as compelling as I expected.
i thought this was a comedy of some sort when he missed the shot at the opening scene. he had all the routines, even had eye drops, yoga, mc donalds, but he missed the shot. but overall, it was entertaining.
He makes complete fun of his audience too… it’s beyond basic and fell totally flat with me… junk. People only like it because of who is involved
I loved the irony in the opening scene of the movie! The rest not so much. It was like a John Wick movie, but with John Wick not really being a badass but a mediocre assassin and all the antagonists not being badass as well.
Not even close to how good Seven and Fight Club movies were.
The only thing that this film has in common with John Wick is that both are about assassins on a revenge quest. That's pretty much it. They are not even the same genre.
Damn this is a very very simple analysis of this movie haha
after his first miss it became a comedy for me. his talk about simplicity, no emotions, no distractions and then he keeps missing. it really became "get smart" for me.
Oooh so edgy
7th grade media literacy
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THE SMTHS!
I don’t understand how it took 175 million dollars to make tho.
I was curious about that number as well. I've seen some people note that it's probably not super accurate, and it also might have something to do with how Netflix handles residuals. Hopefully some more details about the budget come out later.
@@TruestPicture Yeah let's hope...
I couldn't finish it, it was too slow, it feels like a Seinfeld episode, going nowhere, dragging itself slowly from one point to another, like a snail.
Life is too short and this film is 2 hours long.