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@@eugeneimbangyortezarofl seriously! They need to stop watching cause they’re gonna have the whole show ruined if they keep going. Public service announcement: the books aren’t done! Everything season 5 and on may not happen cause those books aren’t out so…. If you’re gonna watch keep in mind none of this may happen, it may all just be a giant fever dream the world shared and none of its real!
Are you planning on reading the books at any point? The audio versions you can find on TH-cam. A lot of things are different that I think you would both find very interesting. Especially the Lady Stoneheart twist.
My favorite "Drogon Roar" is when Dany is hyping up the Dothraki after burning the Dosh Khaleen and the episode just ends with a close up on Drogon's face with him roaring. That is my favorite "Drogon Roar".
To be fair Dany was right to be angry at Tyrion. His strategy was the least confrontational and it came back to haunt them as they lost all their allies
Dany says to Jon in the cave: "Isn't their survival more important than your pride". Jon said exactly the same thing to Mance back when Stannis wanted Mance to kneel.
If Dany is going to ask (again) for Jon to bend the knee, a cave is probably the best place to do it. He's had good experiences bending the knee there before.
Dany named Viserion after her brother because she still loved him once. When they were living on the street running from Robert's assassins, he was all she had.
When Dany said 'isn't their survival more important than your pride', this is exactly what Jon said to Mance Rayder. Last episode she asked Jon to not judge a daughter by the sins of her father, when Jon was pardoning the Umbers and Carstarks after battle of the bastards he said exactly that to Sansa. They have very similar attitudes and morals ❤
The "lesser - fewer" joke is something that davos learned from stannis, he corrected him and all the others all the time. I think that's a cool throwback and it also shows that Davos really respected Stannis and learned something from him
Stannis is the king they deserved. The Red Woman really messed him up. If he wasn't such a religious zealot under the influence of Melisandre, he would have won more battles and taken better decisions.... In the books, Stannis is an other-worldly military leader who could actually inspire a lot of people.
@@nirmalsuki Yeah, I mean I still like the HBO Version of Stannis, but he's more like a soldier with a lot of experience in the show. We don't see the strategy genius of the books
The Dothraki Horde screaming and galloping towards the Lannister Army with Dany descending from the sky on Drogon sends chills down my spine every single time.
Jamie his worst fear comes back at him. A Targaryen that is going to burn them all, and this time not a king that thinks he's a dragon but a queen that has three.
26:06 She doesn't look happy because she isn't. She's processing the fact that not only does her little annoying sister have a list of people she wants to kill, she actually can kill them. She's reckoning with the fact that the Arya she had in her mind is gone, another thing of her past life that has changed. One brother has been murdered and then brought back to life and is now down in the South with the daughter of the man who burned their uncle and grandfather, another brother is completely detached emotionally from everyone and everything and now her little sister isn't who she remembers her to be. Its a lot
She is thinking that she might have to take north from Jon and now since Arya is here, she would never let it happen and now she is seeing how strong she has become, she is afraid and we see that later in the season when Arya threatens her if she even plans of betraying Jon
@@morgoth8815 she’s not though? Sansa hasn’t shown any interest in taking the North from Jon and if I’m not mistaken her only gripe is that he makes decisions that (to her) are stupid but she has no plans to take over. And Arya only ASSUMES Sansa wants to take Jon’s place because the same way Sansa has to relearn her siblings, Arya has to do the same with Sansa and she’s not willing… She remembers the Sansa who just wanted to be a princess so she’s willing to jump to the conclusion that she would betray their brother
@@NyikoDorisnot true her doubt and inability to flat out deny little fingers passes for her to take the north preludes she is thinking about it and the fact little fingers is openly laying insurrection and rebellion against the king her brother to her face and she doesn't have his head on a spike or he hasn't been thrown in jail is reason enough to show she is thinking about it its the subtleties of the show the quiet meanings
@@melvinmacaulay711She doesn’t lay his head on a spike because they need allies, he still holds control of the Vale army, she can’t just willy nilly behead him or lock him up without it having consequences. Sansa is trying to keep the peace and keep things together so it doesn’t fall apart before Jon returns.
You are so right about how much the Stark family has been through, and we’ve lived it with them throughout this show. I just love how you get emotional about it all Pudgey, because that’s how most of us felt when we watched these episodes the 1st time.
Daenerys did what John told her. She didn’t kill the innocent people and melt the castles.. She went for the supplies and the soldiers. The scene when Jaime said “we can hold them off” and then Drogon came with Daenerys was ABSOLUTELY INSANE 🔥
Still one of the most spectacular battles in TV history. Makes me want to see what the Field of Fire would look like if they ever decide to adapt Aegon's wars of conquest.
@@JigInsanethey’re not going to randomly go backwards 130 years on HOTD lol. They would have to do a whole new series for The Conquest. Or after they’ve finished with The Dance of Dragons story in a couple seasons, they could take it all the way back, and make HOTD a Targaryen anthology series. I would love to see things like the Blackfyre Rebellion put on screen. Some Maegor madness too
@Drummer4President was curious about it, one channel I follow mentioned that the series could jump around the timeliness and cover different events during different seasons. Which would be a neat idea.
@@JigInsane They made these time stamps because they wanted to show all the important stuff that happens before they war, so that we can really understand the characters and their conflicts, that's all
We are judging Tyrion based on information we the audience have but he doesn’t. Tyrion doesn’t know about Casterly Rock being out of gold. Thus holding no real value to the Lannisters. He also didn’t know Euron Greyjoy was making a play to ally with Cersei.
d&d can't write 'smart' characters see how they tried to make sansa 'smart' too (without any of the work like in the books) by just saying 'she's smart' over and over without showing much of anything
The Starks coming home with all their experiences IS the legacy of Ned Stark. His words are never far from their lips, his honor never far from their hearts. No one expects to live forever, but we try to instill good things in our children for their legacy in the next generation. GoT executed that sentiment beautifully.
The only thing Ned did right was raise some great kids....and Sansa 😏. Everything else he did was dumb as fugg in this world. Ned was playing checkers while everyone else was playing chess.
I don't values & honor of Ned has faded... Not completely but doesn't look like to be there -Arya is brutal assassin acting like a psycho that bakes fingers into pies -Bran a literal robot & can't explain a thing normally -Sansa...selfish, lier oath breaker,such a bitchy attitude that thinks makes her a girlboss, it's as if cersei has put this in her mind :anyone who isn't us is an enemy
Pudgey was 100 % right when she said Dany is aiming for the barrels. She was aiming for the supplies to cut kings landing off but doing it with power and teaching a lesson at the same time.
Well, when they kill or imprison the soldiers they also would cut kings landing off AND they could use the food for their own soldiers. Its really dumb
@@scargreatness8457 You guys are acting like she is driving the Dragon with a controller/ The dragon after she commands to burn will burn everything. Its not like she is telling the dragon to burn every individual thing it burns/
I think Sansa is more overwhelmed than jealous. She's coming to grips with the reality that the Bran and Arya she remembers are dead. Her siblings may as well be strangers.
I always saw it as her being jealous because that's the way D&D wanted to tie it towards Littlefinger. In reality this shouldn't be the case at all but this is one of the examples of the writing being questionable in season 7 that fans noticed
I think you’re both right. While Sansa is the lady, it seems off that she should be jealous. Yet, I think there is a hint of it there. All three have gone through so much yet on the outside Arya and Bran seem much stronger than Sansa. Especially when you factor in the Leech Littlefinger constantly instilling doubt in Sansa. In a way Bran and Arya got to fulfill their “childhood dreams”… Bran always loved stories and always loved to explore. He’s practically been everywhere and knows everything now. Arya wasn’t a lady. She was wild. And liked fighting skills. She trained with the 1st Sword and The Faceless Men. Sansa always wanted to be a queen. Has been in the presence of kings and queens. Been mistreated by both and then damaged far more in her own home. She’s not suffering anymore and is home but not in a queenly state like she really wants.
@@Spongebrain97 Nah, in reality it would completely fit in with the character she's always been. Especially now that she's openly telling Jon how powerful Cersei is and lying to Jon about how "everyone" that has crossed Cersei has died, when she's one of those people and isn't dead.
@@Spongebrain97why would Sansa ever be jealous of Arya? lol she’s more of taken aback and shocked seeing her little sister grow so much, and she’s probably curious about what Arya has been through to learn how to fight so well.
I love how the second it’s over Pudgey ask’s a very logical question “He’s got armor on, is he going to drown?”…. A question that apparently didn’t even flash across the writers minds. Just horrible horrible writing… but awesome cinematography!
I always felt that Sansa was slightly afraid of Arya, seeing what she could actually do after hearing the statement: “People I’m going to kill.” And the two sisters fought as children. That’s how I always interpreted Sansa’s cautious look while Arya was sparring with Brianne.
She was also unsure how much of it all she blamed her for.. Sansa did take the Lannisters side for a lot of ugly moments when they were kids and the butchers boy died coz Sansa wouldn’t tell the truth about what really happened and even their dad being on the chopping block to a kid could have been Sansa fault so a lot of emotions there and they haven’t spoken it out.. so when she asks her who is on her list I always felt like it implied an almost, “am I on that list”.. even her own guilt of how her actions contribute to some of crap that happened.. made sense to me
Agree. Littlefinger told her to assume the worst. Arya wanting to kill her was the worst case scenario & she knows Arya partially blames her for the butchers boy's death.
22:10 "Isn't their survival more important than your pride?" this is actually what Jon once said to Mance. I remember when this episode came out, there were people who called Daenerys stupid for it and insulted her, and these were the same people who called Jon smart and a real leader when he said this to Mance 🙃 23:02 Daenerys is right, it's all Tyrion's fault. Ever since Daenerys came to Westeros, all she has done is listen to him and stick to his strategy. No spoilers guys because I know you've already made it to season 8 - to be honest, Daenerys' biggest mistake in the entire series is that she didn't listen to Olenna when she told her to stop listening to all the "wise" men.
The situation is different: mance didn't want to kneel because he didn't want to betray his people and that's understandable, but he also had no other choice when he wants to pass the wall. Jon doesn't want to betray his people and he and his men have the protection of the wall, so their situation is better than the situation of the wildlings
@@FrankeNamensKarim Jon himself has said several times that the wall won't hold back white walkers... this is literally one of the reasons why he even agreed to go to Daenerys. Their situation is not better than Mance's, but worse, because they literally have to fight death.
@@Natalia-ll4pz The situation is better because they have more protection and the wall got destroyed *because* they went north and jon thought "lol, I don't want to go away now, I want to kill some undead mofckers" so that the nightking had the possibility to kill Viseryon. So the wall would have been enough
@@FrankeNamensKarim when the Night King left a mark on Bran in s6, the magic spell on the wall broke and he was able to go pass the boundaries. So even if he had no dragon, it would have been possible for him to pass through the wall cause of Bran. The dragon was only needed to make it all look "cool".
So the scene with aria and the guards is actually a throw back to season 1 when she chased the cat into the dungeons and was trying to get back into the red keep to her father the guards stopped her and didn't believe who she was.
In the books there are a lot more Tyrells. I do feel sad for that house though. One of Magerie's brothers is really good with a sword. I think one of the reasons why a lot of people dont like the last few seasons was because most of the best characters' arcs started coming to a close. And a lot of us probably didnt like the way the arcs ended. Rewatching it with you guys I find myself entertained and I enjoy seeing you guys experience the major plot points, and have the same reaction that I did years ago.
Bronn will always be my favorite character... A hell of a fighter, he is funny with his one-liners, loyal (even though he tries to hide it with his "greed") and as a side-character ALWAYS coming in clutch. The actor did a great job! Very underrated!
Don't feel too bad for her. She may have lost her brother and friends, but now she's the heir to greywater watch and the neck, she has one of the most legendary valyrian steel swords of all time, she's one of like 4 known people in all of history to actually kill a white walker and if you want to get into the deep theories, she's like 2nd in line to inherit the iron throne 😅
Robert Baratheon was so wise tho. King Robert on Jaime's stand: Only a fool would meet the Dothrai in an open field. King Robert on Jaime's charge: He came running at me, this dumb highborn lad. Thinking he could end the rebellion with a single swing of his sword.
My favourite moment of this battle is still when Drogon dismissively smashes the remains of the scorpion with his tail, in a very "f*** this thing" move.
@@TammyGordin ehh maybe the vibe I got was that he's definitely having flashbacks to the mad king that's kinda the whole point it's a repeat for Jaime and it proves his bravery is real because he does what he did the time before without hesitation I think it's an odd mix of both, he proved who he was someone that would risk his own life for the lives of others
Dany's "what's more important - your pride or your people"-speech to Jon in the caves is very similar to Jon's speech to Mance Rayder back when he was trying to convince Mance to join up and fight with the Night's Watch.
I love how that lake was like the Mariana Trench just a few feet away from where the bigass dragon was standing. Realistically speaking, Bronn and Jaime would've fallen on shallow waters and immediately captured by Danny. Unfortunately a common theme of the last two seasons is that we can't rely on realism as much as we used to anymore. Regardless, this episode is the best out of the entire season.
@@jamesmswenko8292You could argue that it was dark and that it's the open sea, plus not really worth Euron's time to look for Theon when he's already got Yara. But here it's the middle of the day and I'm not even sure of that body of water can be considered a lake 😂 Plus Spartan is right, the most logical outcome would be for Dany to actually search for them because they would be very valuable hostages.
Have you never been in a river? The edge can be the deepest part. And if this was a main route for supplies what ships or boats go up into the river? How deep would it need to be naturally or man dug to have them dock there if they wanted?
@@birdienator7377Not only resurrect, but also suddenly becoming a master assassin out of nowhere, able to go toe to toe with Brienne of Tarth, one of the best warriors in westeros. Its such a stupid mess at this point, sigh.
@@Draugheim tiny sword is obviously strong enough to stop the momentum of a longsword from giant lady And good thing ayra as newly learned assassin knew how to fight in the dark against the person who has been an assassin for ages, I guess she just didn't get see in the dark training
Im so sad that this is the beggining of the worst end ever. Jamie falling 2 feets away from the shore line but magically ending falling on a 1000 deep river. Tyron being dumb, not being able to strategy sh1t lol I am starting to hate d and d all over again
@@DonkeyFrost129MCfirst off he fell part way into water that could very well have a deep area and second two men swimming up could probably swim him up in that armor.
@@DonkeyFrost129MCI think he means he could swim back up with the help of Jaime. Also Westerosi plate armour seems to only cover the torso which leaves your legs pretty free to kick and swim.
I still don't understand how the Dothraki traveled from the island of Dragonstone since most of Danaerys' fleet was sunk at Casterly Rock and even if she still had enough ships to transport such a huge horde and horses, how were they able to sneak down the coast without being noticed? Where did they land unnoticed?
You forgot her fleet is made from a fungus that regrows at an astonishing rate so she always has ships, and she ferried them across the land with some of the 7 kingdoms jetpacks
@@lustrazor44 you forgot about the jetpacks that danys army stole from qyburn, that's how they could appear on the opposite side of the wagon line from dragonstone, they just flew over
Spartan can say all he wants about Cersei, and loving power>children, but she kept Tommen out of the Sept. And didn’t order and watch her child burnt alive.
The wagon attack is one my favorite battle scene of the series and of all time. The sound of the hooves at the beginning, the tension in the Lannister army, everything is absolutely amazing.
One of the absolute most intense moments in television is during that initial charge when the dragon descends out of the clouds. That being said one of my favorite moments of the entire series is Arya training with Brienne! Also a fun bit of trivia…in the behind the scenes feature for this episode they said they set a record for the most stuntmen on fire at the same moment time. 😮
10:28 _Sorry, Meera, for this scene, and the fact that your conversational partner here suddenly became a characterisation void. I’d be so much more forgiving if there was some sort of indication that there was still a Bran Stark there, fighting for some of the control that the previous Three-Eyed Raven clearly had. Worse is the fact that Bran’s not just neutral, he says things that are cruel. Sansa wants an explanation of his powers, he brings up her rape (in spite of a multitude of other things to bring up and other ways to say he knows she was raped). Meera comes to say goodbye, clearly emotional, and he undermines everything she did for him. The only relief from robo-Bran is him being an utter asshole._ *- TURRLE PACED*
Bran's training was obviously rushed and he was a CHILD. I can't remember if the books confirm it yet but isn't the 3 eyed raven Bryden Blackfire? He was one of the smartest & most powerful characters in lore and an ADULT when he becomes the 3 eyed raven and had at least DECADES to master those powers. Plus who says the 3 eyed raven's "persona" is anything but a ploy put on just to make it's next subject/victim comfortable? Bran probably could "fake" a role like Arya as a faceless man can, but he either isn't ready & is simply trying to just contain all the information in history without going fully insane or he has calculated being aloof & cold will HELP people understand and let "Bran" go as well as depict he is more capable & mature vs just a cripple kid.
I just want you to remember this episode where Dany sought Jon for advice, as she has constantly seeking advice when she feels hopeless and helpless (from Jorah, Barristan, Dario, Missandei, Tyrion, Varys, Olenna, and even Greyworm). Many will try to convince you that she is irrational and does things on whims, listens to no one, even though her actions would’ve told you differently.
@@scargreatness8457 she is, I may not agree with how she does it but she does give them a choice as she always has. That and I don’t feel sorry one bit, I actually liked Randyll as a strong and a efficient character and his misogynistic nature is quite hilarious as its based a good mix of truths and ignorances(of which only the reader realizes) especially his book counterpart, but he betrayed Lady Olenna his leige lordess and well Dickon was an idiot. His duty was to stay alive for his people but DECIDED, from his own free will, not to.
Jaime wasn't doing what he was doing at the end of the ep for Cersei, guys. He has got PTSD from the events that occurred during the Mad King, remember? He's watched plenty of people burn and die, and seeing it again In motion, right in front of his eyes, brought back all those memories. In that moment, his survival instinct got triggered and he only saw one goal - killing the mad king's daughter who is doing the same thing as he did. He didn't care if he lived or died, as long as she's dead. That's what he was trying to do.
Eh not really true mad king was finna burn innocents lol she is burning her enemies…he did what he did to stop the war of course and it was ptsd after seeing all the fire but I wouldn’t say it was the complete same or he seen it as that.
I know Dany’s brother Viserys was a creep at the end there, but after the death of their father (The Mad King) and of their mother during Dany’s birth, he had been taking care of his sister. He had to beg in the streets for food and a place to stay for them both. Eventually people called him The Beggar King and he became bitter and resentful of Dany. But I’m sure she remembers that for a time he did take care of her and taught her everything he knew about Westeros and their family history. I can understand her naming one of her dragons after him.
Viserys was a child (about 7 y.o.) when his mother died giving birth to Dany; they both were protected by a Knight loyal to the Targaryen family. They had lost all their riches, they even sold their mother's crown, but they never literally begged in the streets. During several years their protector Knight took care of them, and some rich people in Essos provided them with a home and food and clothing, as we saw they were with Illyrio Mopatis at the beginning of season 1. Viserys was called the Beggar King because he didn't really have anytjing but his claim to the Iron Throne, but there were people providing for them because of their Targaryen name, anyways. And yes, he did teach Dany everything about Westeros that he knew, and sort of took care of her,
@@aaronia8092 Daenerys says so herself in the books. She said their servants even robbed them of what little they had. Yes they did receive help in Esos, but that doesn’t mean the hard times never happened. She also hopes Viserion will be what Viserys could not.
Dani is a tyrant! Her behaviour throughout is all for her own power, it’s really interesting to see people enjoy the romance of her story. But when it comes to brass tax, she is a murderer who rationalises her tyrannical character. It’s all for power, where Jon would be happy running winterfell and having nothing to do with anyone else.
Agree. Dany has nothing as a child & only find a sense of self through chasing the Throne. It's obvious that once she gets it, it would never be enough. Just like Dario said "hope it makes you happy" even he knew it wouldn't. On the books Dany only remembers happiness in one of the homes they stayed at with a red door & a lemon tree. She had a simple stable life for a time. But after that she has no reference for normality.
great reaction. I'm so glad I am in Patreon. Watching Pudgey crying on all the right places is a beautiful thing. Watching the sad parts don't make me tear up but watching somebody like Pudgey crying makes me cry. And I could watch the whole thing without cuts :) ❤
Jamie always put his life on the line to end wars. He ended the Mad King. He challenged Ned, but the soldier intervened. He challenged Rob, Rob refused (like Ramsey did with John). Make sense he would try to kill Danny to end this war too.
9:45 I suspect Bran wasn't asking as "Who tried to murder me" he knows already. I'm quite confiden he was talking about the Targeryan's heritage. 34:34 No he didn't. Bron isn't honorable. That was survival. Get the gold and giving up his life trying to get it or take a chance to survive. Bron is always about self preservation or self interest but never about honor. 36:25 Actually, the Scorpion is how Dorne was able to resist anexation to the 6, now 7, kingdoms against the Targaryans for so long.
They had to rely on scale because they didn't have the time to draw out a complex story in the level the prior seasons did because they waited over a decade for Martin to give more material & he STILL hasn't. They had to wrap up so to avoid having to go into complex detail or plots they had to make the last few seasons broad to cover more ground.
39:38 interesting take, in book 2, when dany is about to name her dragons, she said this: "The cream-and-gold I call Viserion. Viserys was cruel and weak and frightened, yet he was my brother still. His dragon will do what he could not.". ironically, Viserion is the sweetest and kindest of the 3 dragons
If you notice, Arya is holding her sword left handed. This has knocked Brianne as most people fight right handed. It's happened in real life in Ireland. One guy fought left handed and had the spirals staircases of his castle built for a left handed swordsman. Most castles are built for right handed, so this was a disadvantage when they attacked the left handed castle 😊
That's Targaryen dagger (I don't think it's even originally theirs, but they brough it with them to Westeros), Catspaw, that is specifically shown in episode 1 of HoTD, that Viserys has it.
The dagger is not called "Catspaw". The term catspaw simply means a person being used as a tool by another, thus the assassin sent to kill Bran with the dagger was being used as a catspaw by Joffrey, who ordered the hit in the first place.
Pudgey, you have summed up the Stark children paths so beautifully, I was overwhelmed, too. They really lost big parts of themselves, but they also found so much strength. Love it
Why isn't Sansa happy? Well, she met again her remaining siblings after years and they all have changed very much. Jon is some kind of zombie. Bran is the all knowing three eyed Raven. And Arya is a killer machine. Sansa is the only one who had not to deal with the supernatural.
Tyrion in that final scene makes me think back to last season: “It’s always abstract, other people dying.” Watching the Lannister army be decimated hit him harder than he expected when planning the reconquest of Westeros.
@@cassu6 Daenerys isn't foreign - she was born in Westeros. She's the daughter of the last king of the ruling House. And the original Targaryen's were also "foreign invaders" that ruled for hundreds of years. Robert Baratheon's grandma was a Targaryen. The Unsullied are probably the most disciplined army in the world at that point and Daenerys made sure to reform Dothraki culture of raping and pillaging. Also, Cersei uses mercenaries from Essos - how is that really any different? So sure, they can try and take the xenophobic "she's a foreigner" argument, but it really doesn't make sense. They have dealings with Braavos, they trade, the Iron Bank, people like Varys go back and forth, Jorah was over in Essos. It's not like it's Mars, it's just across the narrow sea. It's supposed to be like the Mediterranean basically
@@justinmingus191 Normal people ain't gonna give a shit about any nuance. She's not from there and she comes with foreigners. So she is a foreign invader with dragons, and people don't have any good memories about Targaryens.
@@noneofyourbeeswax01right, crazy... did he think Cersei would just surrender politely and give her head to the block? Did he not think there would be a war?? He really wasn't ready for this. He thought he was the smartest person in the world.
10:30, of course you also recognize it, but yeah, it's interesting! When we see Bran being "monotone and blunt", it's important for us to recognize why he comes across that way. The sheer scope of his perception of the world is... far, far and away from 'who he is' as a person and the things that would motivate 'inflection' when he speaks. His comprehension of the world around (before, and after) himself is just _beyond_ most of the topics being spoken to him by other people.
S&P have misunderstood Bran's abilities as the Three-Eyed Raven - he does not automatically "know" everything that is or has happened - he has to proactively look for the place/time he wants to find out about.
I love that you are confused about the Sansa and Littlefinger thing. The actors were as well. The only things that hold this season together are good spectacles and cheap emotional moments.
@@BhBc8f8 Of course it is. What I meant to say is that the spectacle and character crossovers provide enough dopamine for some people, making them think they are watching quality content.
@@Pelagion98 Perhaps. Most people also ignored the bad and focused more on the good, the spectacle and cinematography cause the show already earned their trust of delivering satisfying payoffs for the past 6 years and it would all be worth it in the end, they thought wrong.
even if the character writing get whorse every episode this battle is my all time favorite its so well done with fast pace action with slow beautiful shots in between i love it. This show had so much portential if the writing could have keep up. dasly it didnt.
Great cinematography, CGI, directing, editing, music, choreography and acting. One of the best battles in the show, underrated really. Honestly better than Battle of the Bastards, but doesn't have the same payoff, that's why it's not as hyped. I would say Watchers on the Wall, Hardhome and Spoils of war are the best battle sequences. Battle of blackwater was probably the best in terms of storytelling, same with watchers on the wall, but blackwater did not have this level of cinematography, directing, choreography and CGI (apart from the wildfire explosion which was fantastic). Battle of the bastards was fantastic too in terms of directing and cinematography, but probably had the sloppiest writing out of all the other battles (second only to the Long Night battle lol).
No matter how many times I watch this, I can't help but think, "I'm so sorry that my girl was better at war than everyone else and they hated her for it."
Stark family reunion basically went: Sansa: OMG MY FAMILY! what have y’all been up to??!? Jon: I am basically Jesus Bran: I am Merlin Arya: I am a metamorphagus Sansa: 🧍🏻♀️
I think you guys missed something from many seasons back. "CHAOS IS A LADDER" is littlefinger's epic line! LF said it to Varys. Now Bran repeated it to him. Bran been watching alright. And one of the guards at the gates when Arya came back is the metal dude from Stranger Things!
@@baronhomer1 The fact that everyone was still cool with him, even Jon leaving emboldens him into believing that he is safe. Plus he knows that the Starks are noble and won't prosecute based on "visions". Despite the skill Arya displayed, he wouldn't have an inkling that Arya is now a killer. So him staying is more probable and in line with his character than simply to run. His best chance towards what he desire is in manipulating Sansa to turn against Jon and him marrying Sansa.
@@TammyGordin The fact that everyone in Winterfell was still cool with him, even Jon leaving, emboldens him into believing that he is safe. Plus he knows that the Starks are noble and won't prosecute based on "visions". Despite the skill that Arya displayed, he wouldn't have an inkling that Arya is now a killer. So him staying is more probable and in line with his character than simply to bolt. His best chance towards what he desires is in manipulating Sansa to turn against Jon and him marrying Sansa.
15:44, Spartan comments about "what it must be like to be surrounded by family again" -- Gosh, think about it. These actors _literally have not been on screen together since they were children, IN. THE. FIRST. SEASON?_ Further, for a lot of these young actors, Game of Thrones was basically their first serious gig if not their literal first job. They basically grew up on this show together, playing siblings separated by war, _with each individual's performance shot separately from each other, in completely different locations around the world!_ No character interaction between them for _yeeeears!_ This 'reunion' probably means a lot for them! e: Awe! Shoutout Pudgey and that big ol' lil heart touching on the same thing @ 17:50!! 😭💙😭
Can you imagine Jaimes PTSD seeing people burning? Seeing both sides I can’t blame anyone against Dany. Probably fave episode for me. It was beautiful. I don’t agree burning a father and son together, and ruling through fear (although she doesn’t have any other choice here In Westeros - which is why I think she should have just ruled over Essos)
It was the father's choice. If a captured POW chooses to die that's on them. Ned Stark chopped a man's head off, calling him "a madman" rather than listen to him. Jon Snow hung a child and Theon Greyjoy brutally hacked off Ser Rodricks head but an instant death by dragonfire is now beyond the pale for some reason...
Randyl & dickon had it coming definitely deserved it So righteous honorable jaime won't kill cersie after she blows the center of the faith with their cousin & uncle in it & would do it to anyone yet he won't do anything abt it But when there's battle & Dany uses effective weapons she has she is the bad guy we get it 🙂 But
@@laza0202 the point goes over your head, clearly you’re biased in favorites. Burning a son and father no matter who they are is people isn’t right, I don’t fcking care if it’s a saint or not. And literally no one was talking about choosing sides or favorites. Pls leave if that’s all you do
@@noneofyourbeeswax01 literally not one person talked about how they die specifically. Killing a father and son TOGETHER as a show of force is wrong no matter who does it. Ned had beheaded someone who broke an oath, Jon snow hung a child who betrayed him as well and killed him. Dany burned a father and son just so the others would bend the knee- spot the difference. (You all HAVE to stop playing favorites because then that’s how you read all these comments with a bias and defensive view)
@@LS13. So Ned Stark was wrong to kill people in "a show of force" when he killed Iron Islanders or loyal Kingsguard who were only doing their duty when Robert and Ned rebelled against the rightful King? Of course not because it's war. And the Tarlys were prisoners of war who, like the Knight in Monty Python, were to arrogant to accept they'd been beaten and instead rejected all other options and _chose_ suicide. And it makes even less sense given that Tarly already chose surrender to a usurper when he accepted a pardon from Robert because he had been fighting _for the Targaryens! Perhaps Randyll Tarly just couldn't take being beaten by a girl.
That feeling when you refresh YT juuuuust to check if they've uploaded another _AND THEY HAAAAAAVE_ 🥳 Bedtime gonna have to wait another hour baybeeeee 🥴
A Song of Spartan & Pudgey, continued … […] and Spartan did cheer and celebrate the epic triumph of The Dragon Queen over the forces of the contemptable & vile Cersei. As the ashes of incinerated Lannister troops scattered to the breeze, Spartan’s chest burst with excitement - savoring the certainty of her imminent demise. Even Ramsay Bolton would have blushed at the dark and twisted machinations consuming his thoughts. But dark, voyeuristic eyes that had foreseen the end of all things watched from afar, smiling wryly at Spartan’s display of supreme confidence. For little did the proud Aussie know - a child forever of sweet summer - that this hour of victory was to be his last and that - while victories still lay ahead - they would taste as bitter as defeat ...
As a big fan of both Brienne and Arya, I love this training scene they have ! I was amazed that we could see both actresses faces all the time ; it's really them and not stuntdoubles
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omg just reading this comment gives me ptsd
@@eugeneimbangyortezarofl seriously! They need to stop watching cause they’re gonna have the whole show ruined if they keep going.
Public service announcement: the books aren’t done! Everything season 5 and on may not happen cause those books aren’t out so…. If you’re gonna watch keep in mind none of this may happen, it may all just be a giant fever dream the world shared and none of its real!
Are you planning on reading the books at any point? The audio versions you can find on TH-cam. A lot of things are different that I think you would both find very interesting. Especially the Lady Stoneheart twist.
@@Catherine.Dorian.fxtfx😊😊😊¼
34:15 “he left the gold behind to fulfill his mission, that’s really honorable.” What? 😂.
When Daenerys descends from the sky, and Drogon's piercing roar never fail to give me chills
Yes, I know. Say what you want about the last two seasons. But the cinematography and production quality is still absolutely top tier.
My favorite "Drogon Roar" is when Dany is hyping up the Dothraki after burning the Dosh Khaleen and the episode just ends with a close up on Drogon's face with him roaring. That is my favorite "Drogon Roar".
@@des8915I'd say the cinematography gets even better, especially because the budget got higher and higher in the later seasons
@@FrankeNamensKarimbut yeah only the cinematography improves unfortunately :/
There were so many great shots with Drogon in this episode. Him flying in front of dothraki low, when he flies low above water, etc
Jon drew those cave drawings five minutes before showing Daenerys
Davos: "So how do we convince her, Your Grace?"
Jon: "Quickly, hand me those crayons!"
Davos: How many are you going to need your grace?
Jon: 3, maybe less.
Davos: fewer
You can actually see him holding the crayon when he first talks to dany
Yes Ive seen that meme as well....
😂😂😂 bruh
To be fair Dany was right to be angry at Tyrion. His strategy was the least confrontational and it came back to haunt them as they lost all their allies
Well, to be fair: Tyrion couldn't know that Euron knows how to teleport🤷
Tyrion in this format is not a war hand. Have the Allies but not going straight to KL was dumb as hell
@@FrankeNamensKarim he doesn’t teleport tho
@@716olli716He should have been in kings landing that time, but he was already at Casterly Rock with his Iron Fleet
@@FrankeNamensKarimactually, everyone teleported in Season 7, especially in episode 6 lol
Jaime “We can hold them off” then the dragon, then Jaime face, that part always give me chills.
Picachu face
Ahhh yes!! It felt like I was watching it for the first time again!
Dany says to Jon in the cave: "Isn't their survival more important than your pride". Jon said exactly the same thing to Mance back when Stannis wanted Mance to kneel.
Yeah, and neither mance nor jon do what they do because of their pride. Mance didn't want to betray his people and the same with jon
@@FrankeNamensKarimyet.... Jon did at the end.
@@dadatosu4702 I know. I really can understand lord Glover who doesn't want to follow jon after that
@@dadatosu4702 But the Stark children never do!
If Dany is going to ask (again) for Jon to bend the knee, a cave is probably the best place to do it. He's had good experiences bending the knee there before.
Dany named Viserion after her brother because she still loved him once. When they were living on the street running from Robert's assassins, he was all she had.
When Dany said 'isn't their survival more important than your pride', this is exactly what Jon said to Mance Rayder. Last episode she asked Jon to not judge a daughter by the sins of her father, when Jon was pardoning the Umbers and Carstarks after battle of the bastards he said exactly that to Sansa. They have very similar attitudes and morals ❤
Was just about to write the same thing.
No sloppy ass writing. Write new material
Yes, but danny really shouldn't say stuff like "forget the past" and "forget your pride" when she can't forget all that stuff
Yet, those words, she will completely forget 😂
'member mance rayder, guys?
The "lesser - fewer" joke is something that davos learned from stannis, he corrected him and all the others all the time. I think that's a cool throwback and it also shows that Davos really respected Stannis and learned something from him
Yep, came here to say it was Stannis who kept correcting Davos' grammar.
Stannis is the king they deserved. The Red Woman really messed him up. If he wasn't such a religious zealot under the influence of Melisandre, he would have won more battles and taken better decisions....
In the books, Stannis is an other-worldly military leader who could actually inspire a lot of people.
@@nirmalsuki
Yeah, I mean I still like the HBO Version of Stannis, but he's more like a soldier with a lot of experience in the show. We don't see the strategy genius of the books
The Dothraki Horde screaming and galloping towards the Lannister Army with Dany descending from the sky on Drogon sends chills down my spine every single time.
Realistically, Littlefinger would have ran for the hills as soon as Bran said 'chaos is a ladder'.
Yeap
It annoyed me so much how dumb they made Littlefinger's character at the end.
the writers "kinda forgot" he was an intelligent man
@@Mcgerkusccuz D&D are literally dumb and dumber 😭😭 they just threw the final seasons together and rushed everything
This is one of the few criticisms I agree with.(although it almost looked like they were going to do a switcheroo there)
Imagine us waiting for this reunion for 7 years 😂
Jamie his worst fear comes back at him. A Targaryen that is going to burn them all, and this time not a king that thinks he's a dragon but a queen that has three.
Yes a much more dangerous evil then he dealt with before.
I know this wouldn't have made for good story telling but, i wanted to see Jamie shove that lance right through her face lol.
@@crabblue would have solved alot of problems though.
@@baronhomer1 yeah, for the white walkers
@@joaopaulomontalvao903 the white walkers needed her dragon
26:06 She doesn't look happy because she isn't. She's processing the fact that not only does her little annoying sister have a list of people she wants to kill, she actually can kill them. She's reckoning with the fact that the Arya she had in her mind is gone, another thing of her past life that has changed.
One brother has been murdered and then brought back to life and is now down in the South with the daughter of the man who burned their uncle and grandfather, another brother is completely detached emotionally from everyone and everything and now her little sister isn't who she remembers her to be. Its a lot
She is thinking that she might have to take north from Jon and now since Arya is here, she would never let it happen and now she is seeing how strong she has become, she is afraid and we see that later in the season when Arya threatens her if she even plans of betraying Jon
@@morgoth8815 she’s not though? Sansa hasn’t shown any interest in taking the North from Jon and if I’m not mistaken her only gripe is that he makes decisions that (to her) are stupid but she has no plans to take over.
And Arya only ASSUMES Sansa wants to take Jon’s place because the same way Sansa has to relearn her siblings, Arya has to do the same with Sansa and she’s not willing… She remembers the Sansa who just wanted to be a princess so she’s willing to jump to the conclusion that she would betray their brother
@@NyikoDorisnot true her doubt and inability to flat out deny little fingers passes for her to take the north preludes she is thinking about it and the fact little fingers is openly laying insurrection and rebellion against the king her brother to her face and she doesn't have his head on a spike or he hasn't been thrown in jail is reason enough to show she is thinking about it its the subtleties of the show the quiet meanings
It's like she's going back to her place of helplessness
@@melvinmacaulay711She doesn’t lay his head on a spike because they need allies, he still holds control of the Vale army, she can’t just willy nilly behead him or lock him up without it having consequences. Sansa is trying to keep the peace and keep things together so it doesn’t fall apart before Jon returns.
You are so right about how much the Stark family has been through, and we’ve lived it with them throughout this show. I just love how you get emotional about it all Pudgey, because that’s how most of us felt when we watched these episodes the 1st time.
Daenerys did what John told her. She didn’t kill the innocent people and melt the castles.. She went for the supplies and the soldiers.
The scene when Jaime said “we can hold them off” and then Drogon came with Daenerys was ABSOLUTELY INSANE 🔥
@KauanFelipe-px1qq That’s a different case 🥲😂
Still one of the most spectacular battles in TV history. Makes me want to see what the Field of Fire would look like if they ever decide to adapt Aegon's wars of conquest.
You think they will go that route with House of the Dragon? Since they time jump with ease?
@@JigInsanethey’re not going to randomly go backwards 130 years on HOTD lol.
They would have to do a whole new series for The Conquest. Or after they’ve finished with The Dance of Dragons story in a couple seasons, they could take it all the way back, and make HOTD a Targaryen anthology series. I would love to see things like the Blackfyre Rebellion put on screen. Some Maegor madness too
@Drummer4President was curious about it, one channel I follow mentioned that the series could jump around the timeliness and cover different events during different seasons. Which would be a neat idea.
@@JigInsane
They made these time stamps because they wanted to show all the important stuff that happens before they war, so that we can really understand the characters and their conflicts, that's all
And one of the dumbest too
Tyrion drops about 50 IQ points in this season.
Sadly. And Varys too...
@@neospock5034 And littlefinger, actually he dropped 30 IQ points every season after season 4.
We are judging Tyrion based on information we the audience have but he doesn’t. Tyrion doesn’t know about Casterly Rock being out of gold. Thus holding no real value to the Lannisters.
He also didn’t know Euron Greyjoy was making a play to ally with Cersei.
d&d can't write 'smart' characters
see how they tried to make sansa 'smart' too (without any of the work like in the books) by just saying 'she's smart' over and over without showing much of anything
@@thegreatpage5912that's a good point.
The Starks coming home with all their experiences IS the legacy of Ned Stark. His words are never far from their lips, his honor never far from their hearts. No one expects to live forever, but we try to instill good things in our children for their legacy in the next generation. GoT executed that sentiment beautifully.
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The only thing Ned did right was raise some great kids....and Sansa 😏. Everything else he did was dumb as fugg in this world. Ned was playing checkers while everyone else was playing chess.
I don't values & honor of Ned has faded... Not completely but doesn't look like to be there
-Arya is brutal assassin acting like a psycho that bakes fingers into pies
-Bran a literal robot & can't explain a thing normally
-Sansa...selfish, lier oath breaker,such a bitchy attitude that thinks makes her a girlboss, it's as if cersei has put this in her mind :anyone who isn't us is an enemy
Pudgey was 100 % right when she said Dany is aiming for the barrels. She was aiming for the supplies to cut kings landing off but doing it with power and teaching a lesson at the same time.
Well, when they kill or imprison the soldiers they also would cut kings landing off AND they could use the food for their own soldiers. Its really dumb
And winter is here so super dumb
That makes no sense. Unless she's teaching them that she's dumb?
@@jamesmswenko8292right?! Everyone always find it badass, I see a crazy tyrant who wants to win no matter who suffers.
@@scargreatness8457 You guys are acting like she is driving the Dragon with a controller/ The dragon after she commands to burn will burn everything. Its not like she is telling the dragon to burn every individual thing it burns/
Fun fact: one of the guards who was talking to Arya is the actor who plays Eddie from Stranger Things
Holy shit
I think Sansa is more overwhelmed than jealous. She's coming to grips with the reality that the Bran and Arya she remembers are dead. Her siblings may as well be strangers.
I always saw it as her being jealous because that's the way D&D wanted to tie it towards Littlefinger. In reality this shouldn't be the case at all but this is one of the examples of the writing being questionable in season 7 that fans noticed
I think you’re both right. While Sansa is the lady, it seems off that she should be jealous. Yet, I think there is a hint of it there.
All three have gone through so much yet on the outside Arya and Bran seem much stronger than Sansa. Especially when you factor in the Leech Littlefinger constantly instilling doubt in Sansa.
In a way Bran and Arya got to fulfill their “childhood dreams”…
Bran always loved stories and always loved to explore. He’s practically been everywhere and knows everything now.
Arya wasn’t a lady. She was wild. And liked fighting skills. She trained with the 1st Sword and The Faceless Men.
Sansa always wanted to be a queen. Has been in the presence of kings and queens. Been mistreated by both and then damaged far more in her own home. She’s not suffering anymore and is home but not in a queenly state like she really wants.
@@Spongebrain97 Nah, in reality it would completely fit in with the character she's always been. Especially now that she's openly telling Jon how powerful Cersei is and lying to Jon about how "everyone" that has crossed Cersei has died, when she's one of those people and isn't dead.
I always had the feeling that she was at least a bit terrified by seeing what Arya has become.
@@Spongebrain97why would Sansa ever be jealous of Arya? lol she’s more of taken aback and shocked seeing her little sister grow so much, and she’s probably curious about what Arya has been through to learn how to fight so well.
I love how the second it’s over Pudgey ask’s a very logical question “He’s got armor on, is he going to drown?”…. A question that apparently didn’t even flash across the writers minds. Just horrible horrible writing… but awesome cinematography!
Because he very well should have!
It’s only bad that no main character died here. Bron or Jaime should have died
It's as they say, Bronn is with him and he never wears heavy plate armour.
That's why Bronn had to pull him out
The writers abandoned their heads at this point in the show.
I always felt that Sansa was slightly afraid of Arya, seeing what she could actually do after hearing the statement: “People I’m going to kill.” And the two sisters fought as children. That’s how I always interpreted Sansa’s cautious look while Arya was sparring with Brianne.
She was also unsure how much of it all she blamed her for.. Sansa did take the Lannisters side for a lot of ugly moments when they were kids and the butchers boy died coz Sansa wouldn’t tell the truth about what really happened and even their dad being on the chopping block to a kid could have been Sansa fault so a lot of emotions there and they haven’t spoken it out.. so when she asks her who is on her list I always felt like it implied an almost, “am I on that list”.. even her own guilt of how her actions contribute to some of crap that happened.. made sense to me
I thought she was more scared for her thinking about what she must have gone through and eventually will go through now she is a warrior
Agree. Littlefinger told her to assume the worst. Arya wanting to kill her was the worst case scenario & she knows Arya partially blames her for the butchers boy's death.
22:10 "Isn't their survival more important than your pride?" this is actually what Jon once said to Mance. I remember when this episode came out, there were people who called Daenerys stupid for it and insulted her, and these were the same people who called Jon smart and a real leader when he said this to Mance 🙃
23:02 Daenerys is right, it's all Tyrion's fault. Ever since Daenerys came to Westeros, all she has done is listen to him and stick to his strategy. No spoilers guys because I know you've already made it to season 8 - to be honest, Daenerys' biggest mistake in the entire series is that she didn't listen to Olenna when she told her to stop listening to all the "wise" men.
Ur not wrong
The situation is different: mance didn't want to kneel because he didn't want to betray his people and that's understandable, but he also had no other choice when he wants to pass the wall.
Jon doesn't want to betray his people and he and his men have the protection of the wall, so their situation is better than the situation of the wildlings
@@FrankeNamensKarim Jon himself has said several times that the wall won't hold back white walkers... this is literally one of the reasons why he even agreed to go to Daenerys. Their situation is not better than Mance's, but worse, because they literally have to fight death.
@@Natalia-ll4pz
The situation is better because they have more protection and the wall got destroyed *because* they went north and jon thought "lol, I don't want to go away now, I want to kill some undead mofckers" so that the nightking had the possibility to kill Viseryon. So the wall would have been enough
@@FrankeNamensKarim when the Night King left a mark on Bran in s6, the magic spell on the wall broke and he was able to go pass the boundaries. So even if he had no dragon, it would have been possible for him to pass through the wall cause of Bran. The dragon was only needed to make it all look "cool".
20:10 LOL! Jon drew that a few minutes before he showed Dany.
Him and Davos chalked it, pretty impressive in such a short amount of time.
This was a really nice surprise war episode with epic scenes and music, chills every time Drogon enters the battlefield
So the scene with aria and the guards is actually a throw back to season 1 when she chased the cat into the dungeons and was trying to get back into the red keep to her father the guards stopped her and didn't believe who she was.
The VFX in this episode is literally perfection, that one shot with Drogon burning all the trailers is insane.
That's what happens when good VFX also has practical VFX (the wagon explosions) marvel should take note
@@Vilelie spot on, the combination is what gives
In the books there are a lot more Tyrells. I do feel sad for that house though. One of Magerie's brothers is really good with a sword. I think one of the reasons why a lot of people dont like the last few seasons was because most of the best characters' arcs started coming to a close. And a lot of us probably didnt like the way the arcs ended. Rewatching it with you guys I find myself entertained and I enjoy seeing you guys experience the major plot points, and have the same reaction that I did years ago.
Bronn will always be my favorite character...
A hell of a fighter, he is funny with his one-liners, loyal (even though he tries to hide it with his "greed") and as a side-character ALWAYS coming in clutch.
The actor did a great job! Very underrated!
I also did feel bad for Meera Reed. “You died in that cave” it’s actually kinda true.
Don't feel too bad for her. She may have lost her brother and friends, but now she's the heir to greywater watch and the neck, she has one of the most legendary valyrian steel swords of all time, she's one of like 4 known people in all of history to actually kill a white walker and if you want to get into the deep theories, she's like 2nd in line to inherit the iron throne 😅
@@whatisreddin7367 fair lol
Robert Baratheon was so wise tho.
King Robert on Jaime's stand:
Only a fool would meet the Dothrai in an open field.
King Robert on Jaime's charge:
He came running at me, this dumb highborn lad.
Thinking he could end the rebellion with a single swing of his sword.
22:10 "Isn't their survival more important than your pride?"
Jon said this to Mance Rayder before.
And both instances are misguided
Imagine how we all felt, we waited 6-7 years at this point lol
Nearly 20 for book readers
My favourite moment of this battle is still when Drogon dismissively smashes the remains of the scorpion with his tail, in a very "f*** this thing" move.
Jaime's PTSD in the battle so well done
The P in PTSD stands for post. This scene is during. This is him getting traumatized. PTSD vibes next.
@@TammyGordin ehh maybe the vibe I got was that he's definitely having flashbacks to the mad king that's kinda the whole point it's a repeat for Jaime and it proves his bravery is real because he does what he did the time before without hesitation I think it's an odd mix of both, he proved who he was someone that would risk his own life for the lives of others
His worst fears realised, remembering the Mad King.
@@wyattrota9070 ok. That makes sense. But you were not clear.
Yeah took him back mentally to when he was 16, seeing Rickard stark burn alive Infront of him and screaming
Dany's "what's more important - your pride or your people"-speech to Jon in the caves is very similar to Jon's speech to Mance Rayder back when he was trying to convince Mance to join up and fight with the Night's Watch.
I love how that lake was like the Mariana Trench just a few feet away from where the bigass dragon was standing. Realistically speaking, Bronn and Jaime would've fallen on shallow waters and immediately captured by Danny. Unfortunately a common theme of the last two seasons is that we can't rely on realism as much as we used to anymore. Regardless, this episode is the best out of the entire season.
Same with Theon, he survives by jumping into deep waters, the camera cuts; I guess that means Euron can't kill him anymore.
@@jamesmswenko8292You could argue that it was dark and that it's the open sea, plus not really worth Euron's time to look for Theon when he's already got Yara. But here it's the middle of the day and I'm not even sure of that body of water can be considered a lake 😂 Plus Spartan is right, the most logical outcome would be for Dany to actually search for them because they would be very valuable hostages.
Have you never been in a river? The edge can be the deepest part. And if this was a main route for supplies what ships or boats go up into the river? How deep would it need to be naturally or man dug to have them dock there if they wanted?
GEEZUS christ I still get goosebumps when Dany and the Dothraki come through. Oh my gawd.
The actor playing Dickon also plays Billy Bones in Black Sails - an excellent show to follow GoT with.
He also plays Number 1, Luther, in The Umbrella Academy.
No woman can really hope to win against John Snow and the best wingman in the world, The Cave.
Holy shit you're so right
What Bran should've said was "Chaos is a LADDAH"
I think at the end Jamie was just so desperate to do something that his brain turned of his ability to think clearly
“He’s got armor on is he gonna drown” yes Pudgey he should’ve if Season 7 and 8 made sense lmao
The shore line was like 5 feet away how tf he end up in a bottomless river lmao
And season 6, good thing arya knew how to resurrect herself after dying from sepsis
@@birdienator7377Not only resurrect, but also suddenly becoming a master assassin out of nowhere, able to go toe to toe with Brienne of Tarth, one of the best warriors in westeros. Its such a stupid mess at this point, sigh.
@@Draugheimshe was trained to be an assassin
@@Draugheim tiny sword is obviously strong enough to stop the momentum of a longsword from giant lady
And good thing ayra as newly learned assassin knew how to fight in the dark against the person who has been an assassin for ages, I guess she just didn't get see in the dark training
Im so sad that this is the beggining of the worst end ever. Jamie falling 2 feets away from the shore line but magically ending falling on a 1000 deep river. Tyron being dumb, not being able to strategy sh1t lol I am starting to hate d and d all over again
Yep. And Pudgey is completely right, Jaime SHOULD have drowned with that armour on.
@@DonkeyFrost129MCfirst off he fell part way into water that could very well have a deep area and second two men swimming up could probably swim him up in that armor.
@@baronhomer1 okay, where were these two men? Did you see them?
@@DonkeyFrost129MCI think he means he could swim back up with the help of Jaime. Also Westerosi plate armour seems to only cover the torso which leaves your legs pretty free to kick and swim.
@@DonkeyFrost129MC bronn and jamie?
"Only a fool would face the Dothraki on an open field"
I still don't understand how the Dothraki traveled from the island of Dragonstone since most of Danaerys' fleet was sunk at Casterly Rock and even if she still had enough ships to transport such a huge horde and horses, how were they able to sneak down the coast without being noticed? Where did they land unnoticed?
How does she feed them? how does she transport all the horses? What happened to the dothraki hating the sea? do they just sleep outside, all armies?
You forgot her fleet is made from a fungus that regrows at an astonishing rate so she always has ships, and she ferried them across the land with some of the 7 kingdoms jetpacks
it doesnt matter, you're not supposed to think about it too hard, enjoy the action and clap when you see the cgi dragon
The better question is how the hell did they get there so fast? That trips a few months. Dragonstone is on the opposite end of the continent.
@@lustrazor44 you forgot about the jetpacks that danys army stole from qyburn, that's how they could appear on the opposite side of the wagon line from dragonstone, they just flew over
Spartan can say all he wants about Cersei, and loving power>children, but she kept Tommen out of the Sept. And didn’t order and watch her child burnt alive.
the chills i get when drogon screams oh my god i might have to watch this show again
The wagon attack is one my favorite battle scene of the series and of all time. The sound of the hooves at the beginning, the tension in the Lannister army, everything is absolutely amazing.
I WISH YOU BOTH GOOD FORTUNE IN THE WARS TO COME
One of the absolute most intense moments in television is during that initial charge when the dragon descends out of the clouds.
That being said one of my favorite moments of the entire series is Arya training with Brienne!
Also a fun bit of trivia…in the behind the scenes feature for this episode they said they set a record for the most stuntmen on fire at the same moment time. 😮
10:28 _Sorry, Meera, for this scene, and the fact that your conversational partner here suddenly became a characterisation void. I’d be so much more forgiving if there was some sort of indication that there was still a Bran Stark there, fighting for some of the control that the previous Three-Eyed Raven clearly had. Worse is the fact that Bran’s not just neutral, he says things that are cruel. Sansa wants an explanation of his powers, he brings up her rape (in spite of a multitude of other things to bring up and other ways to say he knows she was raped). Meera comes to say goodbye, clearly emotional, and he undermines everything she did for him. The only relief from robo-Bran is him being an utter asshole._ *- TURRLE PACED*
Bran is the worst. A "void" is the perfect description.
Bran's training was obviously rushed and he was a CHILD. I can't remember if the books confirm it yet but isn't the 3 eyed raven Bryden Blackfire? He was one of the smartest & most powerful characters in lore and an ADULT when he becomes the 3 eyed raven and had at least DECADES to master those powers. Plus who says the 3 eyed raven's "persona" is anything but a ploy put on just to make it's next subject/victim comfortable? Bran probably could "fake" a role like Arya as a faceless man can, but he either isn't ready & is simply trying to just contain all the information in history without going fully insane or he has calculated being aloof & cold will HELP people understand and let "Bran" go as well as depict he is more capable & mature vs just a cripple kid.
This battle is so satisfying, especially at the beginning, when the Lannister army is taken by surprise and see the dragon. Now they know the deal
This episode never gets old. Dany flying in is so awesome.
Enjoying your reactions!
I just want you to remember this episode where Dany sought Jon for advice, as she has constantly seeking advice when she feels hopeless and helpless (from Jorah, Barristan, Dario, Missandei, Tyrion, Varys, Olenna, and even Greyworm). Many will try to convince you that she is irrational and does things on whims, listens to no one, even though her actions would’ve told you differently.
And at the beginning of next episode she was also acting rational
Dany has always had ppl she respected and trusted to reign her in, and not be impulsive.......
I'd say its a mix: sometimes she is rational and logical and some other times she is irrational and impulsive
@@FrankeNamensKarim impulsive yes but one instance she acts irrationally?
@@scargreatness8457 she is, I may not agree with how she does it but she does give them a choice as she always has. That and I don’t feel sorry one bit, I actually liked Randyll as a strong and a efficient character and his misogynistic nature is quite hilarious as its based a good mix of truths and ignorances(of which only the reader realizes) especially his book counterpart, but he betrayed Lady Olenna his leige lordess and well Dickon was an idiot. His duty was to stay alive for his people but DECIDED, from his own free will, not to.
Youse two have became my favourite reactors, i wait all week for these vids 😂😂 keep smashing it guys!
Jaime wasn't doing what he was doing at the end of the ep for Cersei, guys. He has got PTSD from the events that occurred during the Mad King, remember? He's watched plenty of people burn and die, and seeing it again In motion, right in front of his eyes, brought back all those memories. In that moment, his survival instinct got triggered and he only saw one goal - killing the mad king's daughter who is doing the same thing as he did. He didn't care if he lived or died, as long as she's dead. That's what he was trying to do.
great point!
Then he should've killed Cersei who did worse than what Dany's doing
@@BhBc8f8that's where the love part comes in
Eh not really true mad king was finna burn innocents lol she is burning her enemies…he did what he did to stop the war of course and it was ptsd after seeing all the fire but I wouldn’t say it was the complete same or he seen it as that.
Wow that's such a good point! I've never thought of it that way
King Robert: “A targaryen at the head of a Dothraki army”
I know Dany’s brother Viserys was a creep at the end there, but after the death of their father (The Mad King) and of their mother during Dany’s birth, he had been taking care of his sister. He had to beg in the streets for food and a place to stay for them both.
Eventually people called him The Beggar King and he became bitter and resentful of Dany. But I’m sure she remembers that for a time he did take care of her and taught her everything he knew about Westeros and their family history.
I can understand her naming one of her dragons after him.
Viserys was a child (about 7 y.o.) when his mother died giving birth to Dany; they both were protected by a Knight loyal to the Targaryen family. They had lost all their riches, they even sold their mother's crown, but they never literally begged in the streets. During several years their protector Knight took care of them, and some rich people in Essos provided them with a home and food and clothing, as we saw they were with Illyrio Mopatis at the beginning of season 1. Viserys was called the Beggar King because he didn't really have anytjing but his claim to the Iron Throne, but there were people providing for them because of their Targaryen name, anyways. And yes, he did teach Dany everything about Westeros that he knew, and sort of took care of her,
@@aaronia8092 Daenerys says so herself in the books. She said their servants even robbed them of what little they had.
Yes they did receive help in Esos, but that doesn’t mean the hard times never happened. She also hopes Viserion will be what Viserys could not.
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Baelish is quite worldly. He recognizes what Arya is. He has seen Faceless Men before, and has probably employed their services.
Dani is a tyrant! Her behaviour throughout is all for her own power, it’s really interesting to see people enjoy the romance of her story. But when it comes to brass tax, she is a murderer who rationalises her tyrannical character. It’s all for power, where Jon would be happy running winterfell and having nothing to do with anyone else.
Agree. Dany has nothing as a child & only find a sense of self through chasing the Throne. It's obvious that once she gets it, it would never be enough. Just like Dario said "hope it makes you happy" even he knew it wouldn't. On the books Dany only remembers happiness in one of the homes they stayed at with a red door & a lemon tree. She had a simple stable life for a time. But after that she has no reference for normality.
great reaction. I'm so glad I am in Patreon. Watching Pudgey crying on all the right places is a beautiful thing. Watching the sad parts don't make me tear up but watching somebody like Pudgey crying makes me cry. And I could watch the whole thing without cuts :) ❤
Jamie always put his life on the line to end wars.
He ended the Mad King.
He challenged Ned, but the soldier intervened.
He challenged Rob, Rob refused (like Ramsey did with John).
Make sense he would try to kill Danny to end this war too.
9:45 I suspect Bran wasn't asking as "Who tried to murder me" he knows already. I'm quite confiden he was talking about the Targeryan's heritage.
34:34 No he didn't. Bron isn't honorable. That was survival. Get the gold and giving up his life trying to get it or take a chance to survive. Bron is always about self preservation or self interest but never about honor.
36:25 Actually, the Scorpion is how Dorne was able to resist anexation to the 6, now 7, kingdoms against the Targaryans for so long.
We're now officially in the era that prides spectacle and scale over the meticulous plotting and character growth of the first few seasons.
They had to rely on scale because they didn't have the time to draw out a complex story in the level the prior seasons did because they waited over a decade for Martin to give more material & he STILL hasn't. They had to wrap up so to avoid having to go into complex detail or plots they had to make the last few seasons broad to cover more ground.
39:38 interesting take, in book 2, when dany is about to name her dragons, she said this:
"The cream-and-gold I call Viserion. Viserys was cruel and weak and frightened, yet he was my brother still. His dragon will do what he could not.". ironically, Viserion is the sweetest and kindest of the 3 dragons
One of the best episodes…the field of fire, perfection
If you notice, Arya is holding her sword left handed. This has knocked Brianne as most people fight right handed. It's happened in real life in Ireland. One guy fought left handed and had the spirals staircases of his castle built for a left handed swordsman. Most castles are built for right handed, so this was a disadvantage when they attacked the left handed castle 😊
That's Targaryen dagger (I don't think it's even originally theirs, but they brough it with them to Westeros), Catspaw, that is specifically shown in episode 1 of HoTD, that Viserys has it.
The dagger is not called "Catspaw". The term catspaw simply means a person being used as a tool by another, thus the assassin sent to kill Bran with the dagger was being used as a catspaw by Joffrey, who ordered the hit in the first place.
Out of all of the emotional moments on the show that could make Spartan tear up, the dragon destroying things was the thing that almost made him 😂😝
Daenerys: cErSiE hAs tAkEn AlL tHe FoOd
Aslo Daenerys: *destroys all the food from the reach that she wanted*
She wouldn't be able to take it back & keep it from a counter attack. It was more strategic to just destroy it.
Pudgey, you have summed up the Stark children paths so beautifully, I was overwhelmed, too. They really lost big parts of themselves, but they also found so much strength. Love it
Why isn't Sansa happy? Well, she met again her remaining siblings after years and they all have changed very much. Jon is some kind of zombie. Bran is the all knowing three eyed Raven. And Arya is a killer machine.
Sansa is the only one who had not to deal with the supernatural.
Sansa never cared about her siblings. Her mission is the same. She always wanted to be royalty. But she's no Margery.
One of the guards who denied Arya into winterfell is Eddie from Stranger Things
Tyrion in that final scene makes me think back to last season: “It’s always abstract, other people dying.” Watching the Lannister army be decimated hit him harder than he expected when planning the reconquest of Westeros.
Yes, particularly now, as he becomes obsessed with the bizarre notion that Dany can't actually use her dragons or her armies to take the Iron Throne
@@noneofyourbeeswax01 I mean it totally makes sense. Ain't no one supporting foreign invaders.
@@cassu6 Daenerys isn't foreign - she was born in Westeros. She's the daughter of the last king of the ruling House. And the original Targaryen's were also "foreign invaders" that ruled for hundreds of years. Robert Baratheon's grandma was a Targaryen. The Unsullied are probably the most disciplined army in the world at that point and Daenerys made sure to reform Dothraki culture of raping and pillaging. Also, Cersei uses mercenaries from Essos - how is that really any different? So sure, they can try and take the xenophobic "she's a foreigner" argument, but it really doesn't make sense. They have dealings with Braavos, they trade, the Iron Bank, people like Varys go back and forth, Jorah was over in Essos. It's not like it's Mars, it's just across the narrow sea. It's supposed to be like the Mediterranean basically
@@justinmingus191 Normal people ain't gonna give a shit about any nuance. She's not from there and she comes with foreigners. So she is a foreign invader with dragons, and people don't have any good memories about Targaryens.
@@noneofyourbeeswax01right, crazy... did he think Cersei would just surrender politely and give her head to the block? Did he not think there would be a war?? He really wasn't ready for this. He thought he was the smartest person in the world.
this is by far the best episode of season 7 just for the great camera work on the last 10 minutes . congrats to whomever directed this war scene .
10:30, of course you also recognize it, but yeah, it's interesting! When we see Bran being "monotone and blunt", it's important for us to recognize why he comes across that way. The sheer scope of his perception of the world is... far, far and away from 'who he is' as a person and the things that would motivate 'inflection' when he speaks. His comprehension of the world around (before, and after) himself is just _beyond_ most of the topics being spoken to him by other people.
S&P have misunderstood Bran's abilities as the Three-Eyed Raven - he does not automatically "know" everything that is or has happened - he has to proactively look for the place/time he wants to find out about.
prefiero no hablar del Cuervo Trino, y esperando deseo, que los libros me devuelvan el amor por los Stark
That battle scene with Bronn is easily in my top 3 battles scenes ever, I just love the intensity and way its filmed
I love that you are confused about the Sansa and Littlefinger thing. The actors were as well. The only things that hold this season together are good spectacles and cheap emotional moments.
nothing holds this season together, it's objectively bad
@@BhBc8f8 Of course it is. What I meant to say is that the spectacle and character crossovers provide enough dopamine for some people, making them think they are watching quality content.
@@Pelagion98 Perhaps. Most people also ignored the bad and focused more on the good, the spectacle and cinematography cause the show already earned their trust of delivering satisfying payoffs for the past 6 years and it would all be worth it in the end, they thought wrong.
The entire winterfell plot was a mess and so poorly done it’s frustrating.
What's confusing? Sansa wants him close because she wants an ally & would probably rather know where he is vs him be gone.
44:10 when using the dagger Arya does switch hands in the middle of the fight
even if the character writing get whorse every episode this battle is my all time favorite its so well done with fast pace action with slow beautiful shots in between i love it. This show had so much portential if the writing could have keep up. dasly it didnt.
Great cinematography, CGI, directing, editing, music, choreography and acting. One of the best battles in the show, underrated really. Honestly better than Battle of the Bastards, but doesn't have the same payoff, that's why it's not as hyped. I would say Watchers on the Wall, Hardhome and Spoils of war are the best battle sequences. Battle of blackwater was probably the best in terms of storytelling, same with watchers on the wall, but blackwater did not have this level of cinematography, directing, choreography and CGI (apart from the wildfire explosion which was fantastic). Battle of the bastards was fantastic too in terms of directing and cinematography, but probably had the sloppiest writing out of all the other battles (second only to the Long Night battle lol).
No matter how many times I watch this, I can't help but think, "I'm so sorry that my girl was better at war than everyone else and they hated her for it."
Fun fact one of the guys at the gate when aria arrived at Winterfell is Eddie from stranger things….
One of the best episodes of the entire show! I had chills all the way throughout the battle!
(28:41) That's Big-gon Dic-kon (To borrow from Monty Python)
Tyrion's strategy of half measures doesn't seem to have the same impact as destroying half their army.
Stark family reunion basically went:
Sansa: OMG MY FAMILY! what have y’all been up to??!?
Jon: I am basically Jesus
Bran: I am Merlin
Arya: I am a metamorphagus
Sansa: 🧍🏻♀️
I think you guys missed something from many seasons back. "CHAOS IS A LADDER" is littlefinger's epic line! LF said it to Varys. Now Bran repeated it to him. Bran been watching alright. And one of the guards at the gates when Arya came back is the metal dude from Stranger Things!
This is the most understated and underrated scenes in all of GOT.
And the silly part is they have littlefinger stick around after hearing it.
@@baronhomer1 ikr, he realistically would have hightailed it out of there
@@baronhomer1 The fact that everyone was still cool with him, even Jon leaving emboldens him into believing that he is safe. Plus he knows that the Starks are noble and won't prosecute based on "visions". Despite the skill Arya displayed, he wouldn't have an inkling that Arya is now a killer. So him staying is more probable and in line with his character than simply to run. His best chance towards what he desire is in manipulating Sansa to turn against Jon and him marrying Sansa.
@@TammyGordin The fact that everyone in Winterfell was still cool with him, even Jon leaving, emboldens him into believing that he is safe. Plus he knows that the Starks are noble and won't prosecute based on "visions". Despite the skill that Arya displayed, he wouldn't have an inkling that Arya is now a killer. So him staying is more probable and in line with his character than simply to bolt. His best chance towards what he desires is in manipulating Sansa to turn against Jon and him marrying Sansa.
“Little finger get out the shot, no one wants you” lmao 😂
15:44, Spartan comments about "what it must be like to be surrounded by family again" -- Gosh, think about it. These actors _literally have not been on screen together since they were children, IN. THE. FIRST. SEASON?_ Further, for a lot of these young actors, Game of Thrones was basically their first serious gig if not their literal first job. They basically grew up on this show together, playing siblings separated by war, _with each individual's performance shot separately from each other, in completely different locations around the world!_ No character interaction between them for _yeeeears!_ This 'reunion' probably means a lot for them!
e: Awe! Shoutout Pudgey and that big ol' lil heart touching on the same thing @ 17:50!! 😭💙😭
Both when I watched them the first time, and every time since, I get super emotional when watching all the reunion scenes.
Can you imagine Jaimes PTSD seeing people burning? Seeing both sides I can’t blame anyone against Dany. Probably fave episode for me. It was beautiful. I don’t agree burning a father and son together, and ruling through fear (although she doesn’t have any other choice here In Westeros - which is why I think she should have just ruled over Essos)
It was the father's choice. If a captured POW chooses to die that's on them. Ned Stark chopped a man's head off, calling him "a madman" rather than listen to him. Jon Snow hung a child and Theon Greyjoy brutally hacked off Ser Rodricks head but an instant death by dragonfire is now beyond the pale for some reason...
Randyl & dickon had it coming definitely deserved it
So righteous honorable jaime won't kill cersie after she blows the center of the faith with their cousin & uncle in it & would do it to anyone yet he won't do anything abt it
But when there's battle & Dany uses effective weapons she has she is the bad guy we get it 🙂
But
@@laza0202 the point goes over your head, clearly you’re biased in favorites. Burning a son and father no matter who they are is people isn’t right, I don’t fcking care if it’s a saint or not. And literally no one was talking about choosing sides or favorites. Pls leave if that’s all you do
@@noneofyourbeeswax01 literally not one person talked about how they die specifically. Killing a father and son TOGETHER as a show of force is wrong no matter who does it. Ned had beheaded someone who broke an oath, Jon snow hung a child who betrayed him as well and killed him. Dany burned a father and son just so the others would bend the knee- spot the difference. (You all HAVE to stop playing favorites because then that’s how you read all these comments with a bias and defensive view)
@@LS13. So Ned Stark was wrong to kill people in "a show of force" when he killed Iron Islanders or loyal Kingsguard who were only doing their duty when Robert and Ned rebelled against the rightful King? Of course not because it's war. And the Tarlys were prisoners of war who, like the Knight in Monty Python, were to arrogant to accept they'd been beaten and instead rejected all other options and _chose_ suicide. And it makes even less sense given that Tarly already chose surrender to a usurper when he accepted a pardon from Robert because he had been fighting _for the Targaryens! Perhaps Randyll Tarly just couldn't take being beaten by a girl.
That feeling when you refresh YT juuuuust to check if they've uploaded another _AND THEY HAAAAAAVE_ 🥳 Bedtime gonna have to wait another hour baybeeeee 🥴
Same here 😂
Jamie seeing his soldiers burn gave him flashbacks to the mad king and now the daughter is here 😂
10:39 I know Pudgey, Bran is a robot now. It's weird because the previous 3ER was not that cold as Bran is now.
A Song of Spartan & Pudgey, continued …
[…] and Spartan did cheer and celebrate the epic triumph of The Dragon Queen over the forces of the contemptable & vile Cersei. As the ashes of incinerated Lannister troops scattered to the breeze, Spartan’s chest burst with excitement - savoring the certainty of her imminent demise. Even Ramsay Bolton would have blushed at the dark and twisted machinations consuming his thoughts.
But dark, voyeuristic eyes that had foreseen the end of all things watched from afar, smiling wryly at Spartan’s display of supreme confidence. For little did the proud Aussie know - a child forever of sweet summer - that this hour of victory was to be his last and that - while victories still lay ahead - they would taste as bitter as defeat ...
As a big fan of both Brienne and Arya, I love this training scene they have ! I was amazed that we could see both actresses faces all the time ; it's really them and not stuntdoubles