How to make a Portable Spot Welder for Li-Ion Batteries using 8Ah Cordless Drill Battery
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0:00 - Spot welder kit
0:59 - 3D Printed Case #JLCPCB
2:01 - Assembly
6:06 - Fix HI Voltage issue
7:27 - Difference between two same Batteries
8:11 - Let's test the Spot welder - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
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I have the exact same unit they're working little bandits they are I when repaired a livetrap meant for raccoons... worked great
C’est excellent merci beaucoup pour l’exercice
JLC are making 3D? 🤯
Great hack, thanks for sharing Brother! 👍
They even print and metal parts🙌
Nice one, I just discovered that I have the same spot welder board that you do, but it seemed to me when I bought it that it was weak with a car battery. Is it more powerful now? I do have the Parkside 8ah batteries at hand.
Thank you!
More videos like this please!
Not bad, I was planning to buy 1500mAh 100C LiPo battery for this spot welder, but since it apparently can weld even with X20V batteries, I'll give it a try. I've only 4Ah batteries, but I can boost them with 18 more Amps from RD6018. Hopefully that's going to be enough.
In the end, I've read comments about destroyed boards, therefore I've decided not to experiment with powering this spot welder from 24V. 1500mAh 100C/200C LiPo has more than enough power for reliable spot welding of nickel strips.
Lidl would be a great Sponsor for your YT Channel :D. Great work as always!
They don't need to because there are Parkside videos all over TH-cam.😂
Thank you my Friend🙂🤝
I'm excited to try your resistor mod. Very disappointed that I also bought it thinking it would work on a tool battery :( Thanks so much for sharing, I wouldn't have thought of just tricking the board :)
I saw a few people on Aliexpress used solder to make the tracks on the back of the board thicker, I thought about doing the same with some copper wire. If you wanted to do a follow up video showing that and any other mods, I would be super interested. Or comparing different power sources, just an idea :)
Great work from you!👍
Thank you my Friend🙂🤝
@@ErCanEverything
Hi, am I right in thinking this should work with a 18v 6Ah battery? I know I would have to change the welding setting!
Where can I find the position to solder the resistor to? I have a little different one
Good project, thank you!
Will it work with a 4Ah battery or will the current be lower?
Thanks for the video. where to buy the board from? what is the part number?
*WARNING!* This PCB suffers from too thin power lanes. You need to add solder on the backside otherwise you risk getting sparks or damaging the card at high loads.
thanks jesus
Good looking out JesusChrist-sx1lf, I was wondering the same. Might create too much resistance?
Where are we without Jesus? And yes, many people write on aliexpress that the module burns out with firework!
Really? Those thick metal bars on the frontside are not enough to carry the load?
@@kamilhorvat8290 Apparently not, may be to some other factors like a difference of resistance between the two materials or whatnot. Bottomline is, the bottleneck is the backside not frontside. That's where customers of this exact board have reported sparks flying and burned PCB lanes during load.
Personally i soldered a copper braid strip and then soaked it with solder so that it covered ontop the pcb lane.
Hi friend, I too did the welder as you did following the procedure but it doesn't work even after putting the resistance. Then I tried to change the resistance but having removed the card from the box I connected the voltage to the Parkside battery on the fly, and here I did a stupid thing, by mistake I reversed the voltage and the SMD SS510 diode burned, now I ask you if it can Is the SS36 equally good, which is 3A instead of 5A like the original? Can you give me some advice
Thank you
Best regards
is it possible to have your email? to be able to speak directly?
Excuse my english but it's the translator's fault
thank you for this video i bought 2 brand new and i can't get them to wondering what is the problem now i know 🎉
Is the battery discharging below the set level in the app?
How many amps can this board handle i have 4 car 12v batteries in parallel can this board work with it? Or it has to be only one 12v battery?
@ErCanEverything It would be perfect if you could design the case a bit more thicker so that that the wires from the battery could be run underneath the case, so that it could reach to the other end of the board. Hence you could place the board the other way around and you don't have to bring the wires up and curl it like it is now.
can i use this to my makita 18v battery too?
Diese Schatung ist genial und funktioniert.
Great idea brother 🍀👍👍☺️
I'm glad you liked it, my Friend🙏🙂🤝🤝🤝🍀
Why do you spot weld the battery? Thanks
Only thing I see you could do to make it better is grab a piece of tint, like for a car window and glue it to the back of the cover where the display is.. that will hide the unlit portion of the display and make the lit portions extremely clear
wonderful presentation.
Good video, I got this and accidentally touched battery with reversed polarity, so the diode at the negative output terminal blew on my board. My mistake. I want to try to replace the diode, and mine is exploded so there is no more cover left to read a marking from. I think it looks like a SS310 Schottky diode in your video. Could anyone who has this please tell me if the diode next to the neg output terminal has SS310 printed on it? Thank You!
SS510
Great Video My friend. I want to build this too :)
What Spray and glue did you take to mount the contacts?
Do you know if the linked 3D-printing Shop makes custom battery cases for 48V? Is it possibile to send them own drawings?
Thanks!
Yep, that's what I also wanted to ask you Ercan :)
Thank you my Friend.
The glue is called Mitre Apel and In description of this video I left the links to the stl files and you can directly order from jlcpcb.com
What about overdischarging the battery? Or does it shut off automatically when the discharge is low?
Those packs have no BMS so no
Hello friend, can you help me a little? I used laptop batteries that are correct and a 3S-40A BMS card, I have the same device for spot welding, but I don't have enough power and my spot welding is very weak. What should I do? Thanks in advance.
Well done 👍👍👍
Thank you my Friend🙂🤝
Looks like these batteries are almost impossible to find. Is there a way to modify a 20V 4 Ah battery to suit the needs? Is the problem only with the contacts or the BMS doesn't handle the load too?
Put them in parallel
Where can i order the custom pcb and wire terminals come as a kit? will the same kit work with a car battery?
Yes this will work with car battary
You see how a piece of wood heats up and burns. Realistically, everyone thinks that spot welding does not heat up the battery? And now 18650 will come down to super factories with laser welding!🤔
In this video actually you can see how hot the batteries get.
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I'm just about to do the same resistor mod for this exact PCB, albeit one that I've modded for use with Makita LXT batteries. 8-24v as the listing suggests seems to be an oddly specific voltage range considering they won't operate anywhere near that range without alterations.
Almost makes me wonder if there was designed to be a menu switch to higher input voltages (Like how multimeters have different selectors for different orders of magnitude of voltage) or even pcb traces that are designed to be bridged or cut. The manual doesn't actually specify an voltage range, other than mentioning the use of 11.5-14.8v car batteries
Did this board work with a Makita 18V battery? It manual says the battery internal resistance has to be between 2.5 and 7 milliohms and all the Makita batteries I have seem to be much lower. Am I going to fry it with a 18V Makita? Did you try it directly connected to the LXT battery?
@@Yossarian-jb3lk I did the resistor mod on two units. One failed, possibly due to bad soldering on my part (Voltage indicator would fluctuate all over the place after soldering the 100k resistor in)
The 2nd board was more successful, it gave a consistent reading of 14-16v after the mod, however it only lasted for around 100 welds before the board stopped working altogether.
In hindsight I wish I'd just used a small lead acid battery or taken the extra step to incorporate a 20v to 12v step down transformer or similar to give the board what it needed without the resistor mod, although I don't know if the spoofed voltage is what killed it, or if it was as you say with the internal resistance being too low
@@CalibreDesigns Thank you! I believe you may have saved me from zapping one of these units - I suspected that extremely low internal resistance might kill it. I'm testing my 12V Milwaukee batteries now, which may provide enough Ah in parallel.
Hi what is the value of the resistor please
@@872stro 100k he says in the vid
well done nice job. Questions: is it works with 4ah battery, the resistor how ohm is it and if i don't put the resistor it is not working? thank you very much!
I ordered this module because it said in the description that it works from 8V to 24V, but after I connected it to a 20V battery, the inscription HI appeared, which means high voltage. And so I decided to put this 100Kohm resistor to trick the module that the input voltage is 15V to work. 4A is low and not healthy for the battery. I recently added another adapter to it and connected it to the XT60 connector. That is, I use 2 x 8Ah batteries and it works more stable.
@@ErCanEverything thank you for quick answer have a nice day!
Have a nice day🙂
@@ErCanEverything they said AH = amp hour, not amps. unless he meant amps that shouldn't effect the performance too significantly just wont last as long.
you really know what the welder wants...your specialis
I'm glad you liked it my Friend🙂🤝🤝🤝
Çok güzel oldu, ellerine sağlık! 1gen aküleri kullansan, temas iyiyse bir sakıncası varmı?
좋은정보 감사합니다
I'm glad you liked it Brother🙂🤝
Thanks a lot, I'll see to it as soon as possible👌
Hey mate. Even on d01 a-1 p-1 it blows my strips. Like. Huge sparks! I've tried a single 2200mah 35c which in theory should be underpowered. But it's still crazy powerful. Destroys my strips. Any thoughts?
The device's transistors are probably defective and it is dangerous to use it in this way!!!
You need to reinforce the PCB lanes because they are too thin, this is a hardware design flaw
Very interesting! I thought the screwdriver batteries were too weak for resistance welding. I used lithium - polymer and a lead battery from a car. When welding, the currents reach 100-300A, won't this quickly make the battery dead?
It is possible to speed up the degradation process because I noticed that the battery was slightly warm. It is an 8Ah battery. But to prevent this I will make another adapter, and connect a second battery to the XT60 connector
Yes. This is not a good application for a Li-Ion battery
@@ErCanEverything How about the Dewalt 12A Flexvolt?
@@nguyenanhduy7130 pushing it quite hard. This really isnt a good application for any Lithium Ion cylindrical cell. Maybe if you had a bunch of 30T's or P45B's in a large pack but it would degrade them rather quickly. The best way to do it is car starter battery or high C Lipo
@@ericklein5097 So, the best choose is high C Lipo battery. 🙂
Did I just see a red (+) wire go thru a (Negative terninal) thru hole and vice versa? Soldering that way is risky. I understand that was probably done to match the contact location on the adapter that sits parallel with the control board and will take the tool battery, but you could have routed them other ways to avoid having to go through the solder point of the opposite polarity wire.
That blew my mind as well. You should have placed the PCB upside down to match + and - terminals and not jeopardize short circuit with such relatively high Amperage
No strain relief instead of clamping the cable xD
hello, this adapter is suitable for a dewalt battery?
Hello Bro.
No, only Parkside🙂
Why u use resistor?
i always do it with a car battery but now i win more space with a 18V battery and a 18V battery is more fast rachargeable than a battery car,
thanks
Hi, Can I use IRFS3004-7P instead of AUIRFS8409-7P ?
yes you can
Hi Ercan. I still didn't understand the difference between the two batteries... Where did you buy the electronic part?
Hello my Friend👋
The difference is in the thickness of the battery terminals at 7:40
and there are links to order in the video description
Thank you for the answer. You don't have a link for electronics in the description, or I can't find it...
I don't understand what you mean by electronic?
What exactly do you need? Note the time range in the video at least
The kit in the beginning
Oh, yes, I really apologize, my friend. I did not add it because the manufacturer had mentioned that it works from 8 to 24V but in reality it spells high voltage above 16V. Here is the link from where I ordered👇
a.aliexpress.com/_EQ5fnQd
Super 👍
Thank you Sir🙂🤝
@@ErCanEverything je ne pensais pas que l'on pouvais shunter /leurrer avec une résistance pour simuler le 12v 🤗 vraiment bien joué
After I prepared everything, and the module decided not to work with 20V! Even though the manufacturer indicated that it works up to 24V, I was surprised.🤷
After so much effort I couldn't just give up and found the solution with this resistor and managed to make it work with 20V🙂🤝🤝🤝
c'est très bien
Negative terminal of cell should not be welded in centre it'll damage internal components of cell
Can I use the lxt battery? And Do you have to use resistors too? For 18v makita batery??
I'm sorry i used google translate... 😁😁
You must use at least 2 x 5 Ah batteries in parallel to be effective. Even 8Ah is weak and I'm thinking of connecting a second battery to the XT60 connector. I used a resistor to fool the module that the voltage is about 15V otherwise above 16V it displays high operating voltage and not working, even though it was stated to work from 8 to 24V.
I also use Google translate😁
@@ErCanEverything your battery is 20v Is that low voltage? or higher amperage
The battery is 20V 8Ah but when connected it shows 20.5V and it is a high operating voltage for this module. And that's why I put this resistor, to show 15V even though the voltage is 20V😁
@@ErCanEverything So how many amperes do you recommend?
@@ErCanEverything Hello,
I have a question:
With the 100k Ohm resistor, does it still working good for a long time?
Thank you.
Эффективная!!!
Super nápad 👍👍👍
Thank you my Friend🙂🤝
Hi excellent idea bravo, I think I will do it too but can you explain to me why you put the resistance?
I ordered this module because in its description it was written that it works with a voltage of 8 to 24V.
And after I prepared everything for the video, it turned out that it does not work with a voltage above 16V. And so I decided to trick the module using a 100K resistor which will show the voltage around 15V. 🙂
I'm glad you liked it my Friend🙏🙂🤝
What is the name of the glue and spray you use?
This is a two-component adhesive Mitre Apel
Peut on mettre une batterie de combien de volts ?
Will it do Copper foil?
I haven't tried this, but for that purpose I think it would need to be connected to a more powerful battery or powered by the optional XT60 connector.
spot welding copper requires currents in excess of 1200A to 1500A. None of these PCB boards will do copper of any appreciable thickness. You might be able to do thin copper foil if you put a piece of nickel over the top of the weld area
We've already tried but wasn't good qnd the points are so weak 😅 i think you gona try bigger battery and higher hampers
You need only 1 volt but you need much hamper
Why JLCPCB don't sponsored me 😁
🤔🤷
Nlce 👍
Thank you Bro
The real title is: How to Buy a Portable Lithium Ion Spot Welder with an 8Ah Cordless Drill Battery
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Hahah true. Who has the 8AH Gen2 battery? No one
old 2ah/4ah parkside batteries have no low voltage protection so are the worst choice. use ferrex from aldi
Unfortunately I dont have aldi in my 3rd class country 🥲
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Thank you my Friend🙂🤝
Hi please tell price l want buy
There is a link in the description
@@ErCanEverything l want buy this
But you don't inform us what are tgr parts you used 😢
Parkside dont have bms in batterie. 😞
How not, there is a board that serves to balance the cells
an kém nikenk 0,3mm không vậy thankyuo
The manufacturer indicated that it could operate up to 0,2mm.
@@ErCanEverything ok
Good video except......... passing the negative lead through the positive hole & then soldering the negative along side ...... what could possibly go wrong ?????? if your going to do something so risky as that, you should at least put a fuse in line with at least one battery lead !, otherwise you have potentially created a fire bomb !, good luck with that ! , ..... you will need it !
what is this welder where can i buy it?
Check description there I left an order link🙂
Колега това продаваш ли го? 🤔
how to assemble kit portable sport welder 😒
So be it then🤔😉👍
I don't understand?? It says zero $0.00 but then I have to buy parts? And what parts? Weird false advertising
adamim ya
Does this guy do anything that actually makes sense??
Lets mount it in a plastic box so it overheats and becomes a molten mess on the bench.
Oops, I fed the wires through the wrong holes, oh well we won't show too much of that f.up, lets just solder the wires to their correct places on the board and hope we don't melt the insulation of the incorrect wires right next to them and short this thing out completely.
Coming up next, we'll sart a fire when the wires short out and the battery goes BOOM!!
...although the piss ant small blade terminals underneath the case will probably act as a fuse beforehand🤣
So how did you make this welder ? Or you just bought it and made a box for it ? What a clickbait
Toto zapojenei nemôže dobre bodovať. Batéria nedodá potrebné Ampére na bodovanie.
Fake !
A nicely executed non-functional toy. Point connections overheated. The battery that is welded and the battery that is used for welding are disposed of.😵💫😧
Moja bodvačka dáva cez 1000 A.
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Lol how not to solder
too much of a hack...even with a purchased product.
👍😉
I almost threw up, when Isaw how dirty hands this guy have. 10:26 . A bit of personal hygiene would serve him well.
Wenn man das ein paar mal macht ist der Akku beim Teufel. 🤮
I find it hilarious when someone claims that assembling parts constitutes 'making' the whole thing themselves. It's actually just assembly, not true manufacturing. =))
Please tell me how to use the Dewalt battery.
Will it weld car panels😅
12 AWG cables, that are thin cables for Spot Welding.
I have used 8AWG cables, and i would have made the two last cables you soldered shorter the shorter they are the better.
I also think they are a bit thin, but I used the cables from the kit, right?
I'm thinking of adding 1 more battery adapter to it that I'll connect to the XT60 connector to make it work fully🙂🤝
@@ErCanEverything Aha yes your right, yeah i would love to see that.