I know this one was a bit faster paced but I had a lot to cover and wanted to keep the video from getting too long.... hope yall like it! ALSO: Reload does have some benefit in the higher stages. If speed is your obsession you can put as much reload as you want. But 60 is still a good baseline here. We are talking about a few milliseconds here. If that.
@@ExpiredSmiles long as you have 100 mobility titan can do just fine. I know the chonky bois like res but it's totally easy to go 100 mob 50 Res 100 rec with void. Which will make your bow play feel way better
This is a great guide, I'm a bow main myself and came here to see if I could learn anything new or share some knowledge. Your video checked pretty much every box, but I do have one thing to add as a "basic bow knowledge" and two tips to add as "specific scenario tips". For the basic bow knowledge, all bows intrinsically have instant auto loading, so you can switch off of it then back, which is slower than just a normal reload, but if you start sprinting before you reload you don't need to stop just to get ready to shoot again. For the Specific Tips, the kill clip roll on Whistler's can get 1 shots if you pair with radiant, or with some other damage buff (lumina noble round from a teammate, empowering rift, charged with light, etc) and the same can be said for precisions with harmony. A couple of builds to take advantage of the 1 shots would be a harmony wolftone/strident whistle and lumina bow swap build, or a radiant hunter build with a kill clip Whistler's and The Title smg because of it's class ability regen origin trait. Edit: I forgot to mention that a Gutshot Whistler's is an amazing bow to pair with Eriana's Vow for quickswapping.
Yep. All good info. The auto loading I honestly just forgot and for whistlers I really tried not to go too in depth with it. Since it's a trials bow. I mostly made this with someone who has never used a bow in mind. Just to be fair. I have never really tried bowswapping with eriana so I couldn't say much about that. Good add on.
found this in my recommended and figured I’d throw in some of what I’ve picked up using bows the past couple seasons: -Foetracer can be strong on Hunter as tagged enemies can be seen through walls allowing you to “prefire” them as they repeek you/you repeek them. I used my Hunter for the first time in a bit in Iron Banner yesterday and pretty easily farmed 100 kills on a Moving Target/Snapshot Biting Winds I wanted to try (I also just died to a lot of dumb repeeks tbf) -Warlocks with Ophidian Aspect make for some of the best quickswap builds, and the movement of Solar definitely helps. I have a friend who tried and was disgusted by the efficiency of Le Monarque with a Quickdraw + Explosive Payload Rose for the Lemon headshot + Rose bodyshot cleanup at any range. -Warlocks are not limited to just Solar, however, as Stasis can be great for causing doubt in your enemies to give you that chance to take bow duels. I personally run Karnsteins and either a Swashbuckler Biting Winds (unfortunately 612 Draw Time but high accuracy) or just my Under Your Skin so I have the bow for longer to mid range, then usually a slug shotgun to clean up farther freezes, and then three Stasis abilities (Coldsnap, Penumbral Blast, or Frostpulse) for closer fights
Been thinking about using foetracer, been using bows for about two weeks now. Definitely noticed how difficult it is to get final blows reliably but that’s probably because I haven’t been playing the game all that long either.
I liked this guide a lot. I especially liked how you explained exactly how lightweights and precisions are different and also mentioned great melee cleanup options to help in close range. I will say though that wanting max reload/draw time is a playstyle thing not a bow thing generally. You look like you have a really fast paced playstyle which is great but when i use bows im much more methodical and holding down objectives, lanes and choke points so personally accuracy, range and damage perks are way way more important to me than anything. Great video dude.
Personally I've never been able to see the benefit of accuracy. I've tested and tested and it's just too hard to tell. Lately I use a very low accuracy tyranny and yet it feels amazing. But wish ender with 85 acc whiffs a decent bit. The beauty of bows is you can be passive or aggressive. I'm somewhere in the middle but I still can't decide on a favorite bow. Heck I can't even decide what class. All I know is bows are fun. Glad you enjoyed it 🤠
I just got the trials bow with rapid hit /kill clip, since then I’ve been trying to get used to using bows in the crucible. This video has helped tremendously!
I actually use dragonfly on mine. Great for pve and helps break up clustered people in pvp. However, I do like opening shot next. It makes the bow land shots it had no business landing. Basically depending on what you want choose based on that. Do you want more utility? Dragonfly. More consistency? Opening shot. More speed on kills? Successful warmup
@@Geist7920 thanks for the reply! I’ve had one with enhanced opening shot for a long time but I switched too successful warm up today and it’s extremely good in pvp 👍
@RadoX RetroZ sounds like there's your answer. It can get CLOSE to old hush speeds so that's what most people use. I care about archers tempo the most so the last spot is a flex spot for me.
Ive noticed that manually reloading your bow after a shot is slightly faster than just letting it automatically knock before you draw, which could slightly increase your TTK. I havent run any tests but its been noticable enough for me to want to share. If anybody has tested this and can 100% confirm or deny this please do let me know
@mitch4065 targeting, loader, and unflinching mods on your armor that match the element of the bow you're using, and on the bow itself I would say icarus. If your feet never leave the ground, targeting adjuster. There will be an updated version of this guide coming soon.
Question: If precision bows max out at 576 draw time, why is Archer's Tempo and successful Warm-Up necessary if the cap is 576? Can precisions go lower than 576 with Archer's Tempo/Successful Warm-Up? If not, then to have both isn't making sense to me. A perk that helps reload would be more beneficial. However, if the draw time goes lower than 576, then i can see why it's mandatory. Or... does Archer's Tempo make the draw animation faster and does not directly affect the bows' actual draw time? So it's 576 regardless, but the animation is sped up with Archer's Tempo. That could make sense as well if true.
576 is the cap Stat wise. (Without glitching) I actually have a precision that is 540. The true Cap for all bows is 500. But yes archers, successful, and archers gambit all surpass this cap
I actually did a test on this though I didn't post it. I used wish ender and a 20 accuracy lightweight. Both of which I really could NOT tell the difference with. Projectile speed matters more on non compound bows. And with compound bows accuracy doesn't matter. I could be completely wrong and there's some miniscule difference but personally Draw speed and reload are most important. And for console players if you get a lightweight with rangefinder or impulse they feel so much more consistent. Sure. What platform are you on. And what are you wanting to do
I know a guy who's cracked with it. It's definitely a niche weapon but it can be done. You just gotta tap or barely draw for the hipfire seekers and peekshot like you would any other bow. Too aggressive and you'll have a harder time
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I know this one was a bit faster paced but I had a lot to cover and wanted to keep the video from getting too long.... hope yall like it!
ALSO: Reload does have some benefit in the higher stages. If speed is your obsession you can put as much reload as you want. But 60 is still a good baseline here. We are talking about a few milliseconds here. If that.
I gotta say man im 5 min into the vid and already love it, shout out to you for using titan + bow its a rare breed.
Had to cover every aspect of the Bow 😁
@@Geist7920 i really hope u make it on this platform your shit is so clean, lightfall is gonna be the time for you to shine 👌😉
@@xaane3805 thanks man
I main titan with bow glaive. Definitely the worst class for bows but man i love my crayons
@@ExpiredSmiles long as you have 100 mobility titan can do just fine. I know the chonky bois like res but it's totally easy to go 100 mob 50 Res 100 rec with void. Which will make your bow play feel way better
This is a great guide, I'm a bow main myself and came here to see if I could learn anything new or share some knowledge. Your video checked pretty much every box, but I do have one thing to add as a "basic bow knowledge" and two tips to add as "specific scenario tips". For the basic bow knowledge, all bows intrinsically have instant auto loading, so you can switch off of it then back, which is slower than just a normal reload, but if you start sprinting before you reload you don't need to stop just to get ready to shoot again. For the Specific Tips, the kill clip roll on Whistler's can get 1 shots if you pair with radiant, or with some other damage buff (lumina noble round from a teammate, empowering rift, charged with light, etc) and the same can be said for precisions with harmony. A couple of builds to take advantage of the 1 shots would be a harmony wolftone/strident whistle and lumina bow swap build, or a radiant hunter build with a kill clip Whistler's and The Title smg because of it's class ability regen origin trait.
Edit: I forgot to mention that a Gutshot Whistler's is an amazing bow to pair with Eriana's Vow for quickswapping.
Yep. All good info. The auto loading I honestly just forgot and for whistlers I really tried not to go too in depth with it. Since it's a trials bow. I mostly made this with someone who has never used a bow in mind. Just to be fair. I have never really tried bowswapping with eriana so I couldn't say much about that. Good add on.
found this in my recommended and figured I’d throw in some of what I’ve picked up using bows the past couple seasons:
-Foetracer can be strong on Hunter as tagged enemies can be seen through walls allowing you to “prefire” them as they repeek you/you repeek them. I used my Hunter for the first time in a bit in Iron Banner yesterday and pretty easily farmed 100 kills on a Moving Target/Snapshot Biting Winds I wanted to try (I also just died to a lot of dumb repeeks tbf)
-Warlocks with Ophidian Aspect make for some of the best quickswap builds, and the movement of Solar definitely helps. I have a friend who tried and was disgusted by the efficiency of Le Monarque with a Quickdraw + Explosive Payload Rose for the Lemon headshot + Rose bodyshot cleanup at any range.
-Warlocks are not limited to just Solar, however, as Stasis can be great for causing doubt in your enemies to give you that chance to take bow duels. I personally run Karnsteins and either a Swashbuckler Biting Winds (unfortunately 612 Draw Time but high accuracy) or just my Under Your Skin so I have the bow for longer to mid range, then usually a slug shotgun to clean up farther freezes, and then three Stasis abilities (Coldsnap, Penumbral Blast, or Frostpulse) for closer fights
If you're able to learn the tempo of it wish ender is the prefire king for the same reason.
Stasis warlock is certainly a good option as well.
Been thinking about using foetracer, been using bows for about two weeks now. Definitely noticed how difficult it is to get final blows reliably but that’s probably because I haven’t been playing the game all that long either.
@@GMurph2336 it takes a while to get confident with them. Hardest primary to learn. But very rewarding.
I liked this guide a lot. I especially liked how you explained exactly how lightweights and precisions are different and also mentioned great melee cleanup options to help in close range. I will say though that wanting max reload/draw time is a playstyle thing not a bow thing generally. You look like you have a really fast paced playstyle which is great but when i use bows im much more methodical and holding down objectives, lanes and choke points so personally accuracy, range and damage perks are way way more important to me than anything. Great video dude.
Personally I've never been able to see the benefit of accuracy. I've tested and tested and it's just too hard to tell. Lately I use a very low accuracy tyranny and yet it feels amazing. But wish ender with 85 acc whiffs a decent bit.
The beauty of bows is you can be passive or aggressive. I'm somewhere in the middle but I still can't decide on a favorite bow. Heck I can't even decide what class. All I know is bows are fun.
Glad you enjoyed it 🤠
Bows, Glaives, and Swords are all I need.
Great video, mate.
😁
Actual medieval guardian
Great video! Awesome detail, well laid out, comprehensive and shows a real understanding. Outstanding amongst a lot of generic pieces. Well done.
Ty ty 😁
Thanks for the reload cap info. I run Whistler’s whim rapid hit and archers tempo. No more wasting that reload slot.
You won't need it no. Supposedly 80 is the true "cap" according to my peers but it's literally impossible to perceive. 60 will serve you well.
@@Geist7920 Yeah and 1 hit with rapid pushes it up. I’m at 63. Archer’s and sometimes veist stinger happen and it’s like I’m freakin Legolas! 😂
I like the info, and you laid out all 3 classes nicely!
Fantastic work
Thanks 😄
I just got the trials bow with rapid hit /kill clip, since then I’ve been trying to get used to using bows in the crucible. This video has helped tremendously!
Excellent glad to hear it!
Yes!!! I was looking for this!!
Well i was going to link another of your comments but there you go. This is the everything I could think of bow guide
0:46 that flick was nuts
I have moments where I look like a hacker lol. That was just luck
Incredible video, great job! 😊
Thanks 😁
Perfect video! Thank you sir
No problem 😁
Great video very informative, for the under your skin would you say opening shot is a good choice or would you prefer successful warm up?
I actually use dragonfly on mine. Great for pve and helps break up clustered people in pvp. However, I do like opening shot next. It makes the bow land shots it had no business landing.
Basically depending on what you want choose based on that.
Do you want more utility? Dragonfly.
More consistency? Opening shot.
More speed on kills? Successful warmup
@@Geist7920 thanks for the reply! I’ve had one with enhanced opening shot for a long time but I switched too successful warm up today and it’s extremely good in pvp 👍
@RadoX RetroZ sounds like there's your answer. It can get CLOSE to old hush speeds so that's what most people use. I care about archers tempo the most so the last spot is a flex spot for me.
"Now onto the floaty floofs" made me laugh
Usually I'm too dry with my humor. Glad it hit the mark 😁
Great video I had to subscribe after this thank you for this
No problem 😁
Ive noticed that manually reloading your bow after a shot is slightly faster than just letting it automatically knock before you draw, which could slightly increase your TTK. I havent run any tests but its been noticable enough for me to want to share. If anybody has tested this and can 100% confirm or deny this please do let me know
I'll look into it
Just getting back in to Destiny and the mods have changed from this video?
Any new recommendations?
@mitch4065 targeting, loader, and unflinching mods on your armor that match the element of the bow you're using, and on the bow itself I would say icarus. If your feet never leave the ground, targeting adjuster.
There will be an updated version of this guide coming soon.
Question: If precision bows max out at 576 draw time, why is Archer's Tempo and successful Warm-Up necessary if the cap is 576?
Can precisions go lower than 576 with Archer's Tempo/Successful Warm-Up? If not, then to have both isn't making sense to me. A perk that helps reload would be more beneficial. However, if the draw time goes lower than 576, then i can see why it's mandatory.
Or... does Archer's Tempo make the draw animation faster and does not directly affect the bows' actual draw time? So it's 576 regardless, but the animation is sped up with Archer's Tempo. That could make sense as well if true.
576 is the cap Stat wise. (Without glitching) I actually have a precision that is 540. The true Cap for all bows is 500. But yes archers, successful, and archers gambit all surpass this cap
@@Geist7920 got it. Thanks
10 frame draw time go brr
Great video. Do you think you could test accuracy's effect on bullet magnetism? Also i'd love to play with you sometime.
I actually did a test on this though I didn't post it. I used wish ender and a 20 accuracy lightweight. Both of which I really could NOT tell the difference with. Projectile speed matters more on non compound bows. And with compound bows accuracy doesn't matter. I could be completely wrong and there's some miniscule difference but personally Draw speed and reload are most important. And for console players if you get a lightweight with rangefinder or impulse they feel so much more consistent.
Sure. What platform are you on. And what are you wanting to do
@@Geist7920 i play on PC, maybe some crucible next week.
@@ExpiredSmiles that's cool. Timezone may be a thing but you can jump on our discord and message me discord.gg/JhzKyjMVed
Finally, a bow main who doesn’t use Le Monarque - anyone who uses that thing is automatically not a true bow main imo
It has its place but it's probably gonna get another nerf
How as a titan main have I never seen these Titan arms ? What ornament is that ? Lol. Great video man. The reload info is golden
Thanks! They are the seasonal armor from season of the plunder. Nice and spiky and edgy so I saw them and thought "yes."
That's beautiful 😍
Ty
What's your opinion on Ticcus for pvp
I know a guy who's cracked with it. It's definitely a niche weapon but it can be done. You just gotta tap or barely draw for the hipfire seekers and peekshot like you would any other bow. Too aggressive and you'll have a harder time
boys are the best thing to happen to destiny 2. not a lot of FPS have bows for a main
It's what's kept me here
@@Geist7920 bow and swords in D1 were complete game changers forsure
I've heard that the hunter bow gloves also slightly reduce bow draw speed? Is that just a myth?
Reduces it by 32. That is real.
@@Geist7920 does it stack with 500 on lightweights nd 576 on precisions?
@@BlitzDeera only precisions
What do you think of the biting winds + erianas swap
It's a viable tactic but definitely got hit from the nerf. You GOTTA use lucky pants there for sure
@@Geist7920 Would ophidians + dex mods not be enough?
@@theasiancow1860 maybe with one bow and one hc dex and quick access on your legendary bow. But it will not be as fast.
Warlock ophidian aspect cover a lot of screen ugh.
Bonjour mi amigo
😁
How funny you have to put an aspect on to learn how to shoot your gun while gliding lol some hero we are.
It would be nice if they would rework oathkeeper and just make bows have infinite hold and air shots by default
Regarding the intro, a montage of single kills with a weapon isn't that impressive. Not trying to be a hater.
@kylee6051 Im not particularly the same as I was then. It's an old video. Im sure there are more impressive things round here by now.
Amazing video thanks for the advice
No problem 😄