Yes Les. Here's the timestamps: 00:00 Intro 02:57 The Problem with No Fap 10:47 Coping with the Difficulties of Self-Improvement 23:25 Reacting to Britney Spears 30:18 Thoughts on Red Pill TH-cam 52:01 Is the Future Polyamorous? 1:08:12 Does Everyone Have the Same Potential for Growth? 1:17:38 Where to Find Hamza
Someone took down your video on fresh and fit (most likely fresh and fit themselves, they have a habit of using copyright strikes to wrongfully take down videos). Wanted to rewatch it and was disappointed.
And then people wonder why chicks in the ghetto are violent and crazy. They have to survive all these degenerate types of men. It's time for real reflection upon all of us. Stop blaming everything go n white supremacy, sometime individuals behavior needs to change and the males in this community are really F-ing up the women.
*“If you don't design your own life plan, chances are you'll fall into someone else's plan. And guess what they have planned for you? Not much.”* - Jim Rohn
Very similar quote from Terence Mckenna, unless he took this quote from elsewhere. "If you don't make your own plan, you become part of someone elses plan." Very powerful message to relay to people.
Hiding an addiction away from yourself and totally avoiding it is actually exactly the same thing as putting trigger warnings all over upsetting content. It makes you more mentally fragile and susceptible over time, not less. Because the locus of control is still outside yourself. I haven't really thought about that before and I needed to hear that. Thanks Chris and Hamza.
Bullshit. Total bullshit, counter-productive, mouth-breaker take. If you have a problem with binge eating, it's not because you're weak. It's because your house is full of junk food and in moments of weakness (not the same as 'being weak') your crutch is easily accessible. You're not a giga-chad for sitting at a table and staring at a chocolate bar and not eating it. The best thing you can do is just not buy it in the first place.
Watched this episode last night and today got an ad on TH-cam for “polyamory relationship coaching” … You guys are spot on. It’s unsettling that this is where things seem to be heading.
Been seeing more of the same thing these past few months. Polyamory dating coach isn't something I ever thought would happen in my lifetime but here we are. I just haven't seen it push to the point of said mainstream but I'm guessing there some who are working on that. Sometimes the future isn't that bright as I thought when I was 5
Honestly, I’m physically disabled (in a wheelchair) and I still feel concerned by this type of content, I started working out which is something I wasn’t even thinking about before and your content has helped me really much
@@kratos.8151 no, because my illness impact the link between my brain and my muscles, and it was getting worse and worse, so pretty much no hope was possible until scientist found a remedy which stabilize my, and I decided to start working out to gain strength
I was into pickup before, but the guys I looked up to were never about "conquering" her, but rather overcoming social anxiety, communicating stress-free and playfully. I'm glad I never went down a bitter path, if anything, the bitterness was directed towards myself.
"So you don't want to play League of Legends, so you snap the game in half and delete your Xbox account." That's hilarious. It's like Chris is 65 years old already.
@@ronin4160 The world of gaming is bigger than just the games designed to be addictive, like LOL. I see gaming as an artform, like movies, music, literature. Obviously you can chose to only consume trash TV and read celebrity news tabloids,... Or you can chose masterpieces wisely. Gaming itself can be a positive thing, it is up to the person who consumes it, as it is with anything.
@@ronin4160 Games with puposly addictive elements added are kind of evil. They Just want you to come back again And again to get your cheap dopamine fix. Be mindfull of What you consume. Same goes for TH-cam or surfing habits
Can we take a moment to appreciate how good of a listener Chris is? @48:47, I loved how Chris just framed Hamza's advice from earlier in the video, to the situation he was currently struggling with right now in such an intuitive way, that not only showed his quick thinking, but also his ability to apply meaningful concepts to different situations
To make a long story short : Wow, that was amazing, and my mind is blown. About the casual sex, I think Dr. Jordan Peterson himself said it best when he claimed (and I'm paraphrasing) : ''Casual sex is a contradiction in terms.. for there is nothing casual about it.'' And I think that sums up a lot of the problems we're seeing today and that you adressed.
I am 20 and I really don’t mind dying alone without intimacy long as I get to make great art. I workout daily taking Sunday and Saturday off and I work on my artistic venture everyday for almost a year. Women, love and sex are things I don’t mind not having, my impulse to needing to create new life is one I want to focus on creating good art. It’s all the impulse asking you to transcend wut you’re. Not compering wut is being created but the process of creation itself. At age 18-19 I was in a serious semi-schizophrenic state. My head would constantly tell me that I was going to end up committing suicide and I wouldn’t be able to shut it up, that and a serious lack of interest in the world, in living and in dying. My Christian faith even tho I tried to destroy it soo many times so I could be “free” was wut made me conceive death as not the ending. My believe in the transcendent dint make death an absolute so my depression was never able to push me to death. But I was stuck in this state of dying slowly started considering becoming a monk actually. All this to say I came out of it and this might be cope but all I want to do now is create a piece of art that can aspire some future genius, I want to be great or aid something great.
Don't feel you have to listen to other people e.g. these commenters (or me). Make your own decision and if it's "wrong" for you, you'll figure that out in time. Most decisions aren't a one-way door and you can always change your mind later down the line. Sometimes it's actually healthy NOT to focus on dating/women for a chapter in your life, and instead focus on creativity, or career, or education or something else. You don't have to chase it all at once. You might just get overwhelmed and burnt out. As an ex-artist turned designer myself (with some regret about my decision, but time to change it being 20yo as well) I relate to and somewhat even envy your decision to pursue art above all else. It seems noble. A large part of the trouble is that we have our intuition and our logical minds at war with each other. But if we listened to our intuition a bit more (and I mean intuition, not our impulses - they're different) I think we would make better decisions in the long-term. That's my 2 cents anyway.
The expression 'tall poppy syndrome' comes frome the Roman historian Livy. According to him, the last king of Rome, Tarquin the proud, was at war with the neighbouring city Gabii. It was too strong to take by force, so he sent his son to infiltrate it. The son, pretending to have been exiled by his father, worked his way to the top of the city. When he had taken control of it, he sent a messenger to his father to ask what should be done. The father didn't say anything to the messenger, instead he walked into the gardens and chopped down the tallest poppies with his cane. When the son heard what the messenger had seen, he executed all the elites of the city, and thus it fell to Rome.
The term is famously used in Australia more so than UK, America or Canada. Chris is the first person I’ve heard use ‘tall poppy syndrome’, outside of Australia
Chris, the story of Jordan Peterson answering the question of the person's consciousness having too much depth... it moved me so much right now, so much... this is what I felt for years, and I had no idea how to phrase it, until now. Oh my god... thank you, thank you for this revelation. Thank you so much.....
The dating game is an updated version of the same game that humans have always been playing: Survival of the fittest. We are not dying of famine/plagues/war etc the way we used to, but birth rates are dropping like crazy because it's too expensive to have children. Only the top tier of men can afford to have children, and only a small percentage of young women choose motherhood over a career path. Only those select few are having (multiple, healthy) children to produce further generations. Brutal reality, but life has always been brutal in one form or another. I wish all of you good health and mental fortitude. Greetings from a degenerate NYC my friends
@MrRocksW I don't mean this as a blackpilled argument for dating being a futile attempt, strictly an observation. It's a problem, and men need to sort their lives out in order to get out of their bottom feeder situation. And (young) women need to make a very important decision - to go against whatever BS they've been told in the last half century about following a career path. Neither are easy to do, but both are essential
Thank you for this mature conversation about ‘Red Pill Content’. It’s good to hear young men thinking for themselves in a world that tries to think for you.
Theres a lot of money to be made coaching men to take accountability for their negative behaviours….but big thing always missing from these men’s discussions is how to hold women accountable for their negative behaviours.
I think it would be better to frame it along the lines of holding others generally accountable for their poor behaviors, whether they be your partner, friends, colleagues, or community members, though I do think you're right in the sense there should be a focus on holding your partner accountable. It's delicate and hard thing to do without coming off like an asshole or making the situation worse, and coaching could be a huge help in this. It's extremely difficult to have a conversation with your partner to discuss the negative things s/he has done, and showing young men how to do this in a mature and decent manner would be a big step in the right direction.
@@rogerk662 I think I framed it beautifully…Don’t semi-white knight this… just be honest with women about their poor behaviour the same way you are honest with yourself and your male friends about their poor behaviour.
If you are a man on holistic self-improvement, you’ll naturally hold women accountable for their negative actions. It won’t be fully conscious, your time and energy will be too valuable to waste on reinforcing bad behaviour
@@thedarkestknight8381 yeh i agree… redpill community when it began was great but it has been ruined by fake no fap flexing influencers who all have a coaching business to suck blood out of incels…. Its pretty gross… if you just pause all the dating temporarily, then get a job, get your own home, get some sound financial investments going for your future and confront life without trying to get anyone else to comfort you whilst you do it, then you will learn how to be a man quickly.
💎💎💎Here are my notes (w/ DETAILED TIMESTAMPS) Great episode been checking Hamza's main and second channel in the past week and learnt a lot - so thank you both! 00:44 holistic self-improvement 01:08 no pill actually gives proper well-rounded advice 02:16 The red pill is like a cult 03:04 nofap 04:17 nofap can put you into a -ve downward spiral if you break your "streak" 04:54 took hamza 5 yrs break his habit 05:31 your mental viewpoint on your behaviours is at times 50% of your mental talk and way you view yourself 06:59 new identity = change in triggers + habits 07:52 environment design is key at the START but after a while you want to get deeper understanding on what triggers that behaviour 10:57 “self-development depression” 12:59 Plato's allegory of the cave 💎 17:33 You need to go deeper and turn that pain into the norm of being in that situation! 💎 18:39 in the beginning, our perception of pain is inverted when it comes to +ve habits and vice versa with -ve → you want to stick through the pain because it WILL get easier/enjoyable! 20:43 mindfulness training 21:36 the power of surrender 💎 31:48 by emulating the red pill TH-camrs you end up attracting low-quality women who the red pill TH-camrs are sleeping with and not actually in a healthy dynamic with! 35:21 its taught by -ve media 36:41 the beta in you feels satisfied when seeing f+f arguing and winning arguments - it's all just petty and never actually leads to growth! Stop wasting time-consuming 38:52 be bitter or be better 39:50 when watching that cheap entertainment - it's like junk food not healthy and you don't feel like your highest self when subject to it! 40:38 the red pill if you go too far in can distort your mind and make you view women as not a team member you build with but as an enemy, you must conquer - SUPER SUPER toxic mentality, count yourself lucky if you don't think this way! 40:38 are you looking for value or cheap entertainment masked as value????? 42:03 This reminds me of the way of the superior man - the true alpha/masculine man enjoys female and feminine nature as it polarises/balances them and is a part of human nature 48:23 Maslow's hierarchy of needs 49:11 it takes time to change your behaviour...be patient! 56:16 the agricultural revolution allowed some men to accrue resources and wealth - which made them highly attractive - they would then have large harems of women who they could keep safe - this is where a lot of men's ability to have children decreased as they were no longer seen as an option for women - “some women would rather share an alpha than be saddled with a beta long term” 57:26 the unstable society where a small minority of men get all the women is actually NEVER good! In a way, the agricultural revolution and loss from hunter-gatherer society messed human society up 59:00 this is FACTS think Netflix shows that have come out recently 01:01:14 media really DOESNT teach you the realities of dating and being in an actual loving and caring healthy relationship! Drama captures attention and with media when the only metric they're maximising is attention - drama will win all day everyday even at the expense of truth 01:04:43 life is literally like a movie man 01:10:20 30-50% of ppl in black pill and incel fall on the spectrum - so interesting to see how Chris brought up his point on, yes, there are people who self-development isn't going to always work as well as the majority - and as much as he feels for them at the same time the content he puts out is for his younger self and people who are similar to that
The problem I'm seeing in dating in my 30s is the amount of broken women from previous relationships. As much are women are to blame so are my fellow brothers for poisoning the well for the rest of us
Again, what you're missing is that it is a very small group of men who do that. Only a few men get success like that at a young age. I used to think the same as you, until I realised how many decent men got rejected before him or how many red flags there were.
As someone who recently stumbled upon the names mentioned in this chat, I’m grateful for the awareness that it brought me. I also became aware of the toxic thoughts that came with watching the content and how my views started to objectivity people and has me questioning why and how I can evolve from those thoughts.
lol this was basically just one long reminder of how I need to get back in the gym. I had been going religiously for 15 years but when everything shut down due to the rona I just completely fell off the wagon and have struggled to get back into the habit. Also developed a great sense of apathy towards everything. Don't care that I'm not dating anymore... just focused on being grateful for what I have rather than chasing happiness and meaning and enlightenment. I have a good job, no debt, no felonies live on my own and don't bother anyone and it works for me. I found red pill years ago and did the whole "gym bro, bang gurls" life style.. ended up dating a girl for 4yrs towards the end of that and once it ended said "to heck with this" as, even when things were good, it was still a struggle. I guess I'm trending more towards black pill thinking now, but that's just me, not saying everyone should think that way.
researchers consistently fail to address the magnitude of this issue. People ultimately need love and validation. When a man doesn't matter to a woman, when she doesn't gaze at him with a loving smile, tell him she wants him/needs him, that he matters to her. A lot of guys have never had that. This will cause disillusionment/isolation/soul sadness and mental health issues in men. No amount of material things, por* will be able to replace that. The problem in the west is 2 fold. Incels can't get a woman and the ones that do get one, end up in divorce/breaking up or being cheated on and losing more than the lady. So they swear off relationships and end up lonely all the same. (Mgtow) Both have the effect of creating lonely, angry, atomised ppl and broken society with plummeting birth rates. And can spell the end of that society. What are we seeing in the west now? Falling sperm counts, falling testosterone levels, births, marriage, and a rapidly ageing society, with catastrophic debt levels. White ppl used to have close family bonds but now they no longer keep ties with family and send old ppl to homes. Jobs for life are a thing of the past, from where they used to form friends. White ppl lost their matchmaking culture and used to marry form within their own tried and tested social circle. With all that now gone, internet dating and cold approaching/PUA random women that u know nothing about is the way. Which can be toxic.
This is absolute gold. I could listen to you two talk about the pros and cons of assisting yourself with blockers or not for an hour itself. I wish you guys went even deeper there.
Chris as always love your work! I would however like to make the distinction between, Fresh and Fit, Rollo, and Kevin Samuels, they are in no ways similar, and in fact very distinct. Fresh and Fit bring up women, whom like you and Hamza said most young men dislike but are attracted to, bash them as a class and feed off a young man's anger phase after taking the red pill. Rollo simply uses modern day illustrations of his concepts of female behavior, such as Will and Jada Smith. He simply points out female behavior and what it is in the wider context of how society views female nature. Kevin spent 3 years speaking to men. He blew up when he began speaking about women because of what his clients wanted. Regardless of what you may think Kevin does not bash women, he clearly just tells the truth of what most men want and women because they live in our modern day society are shocked at what a man REALLY thinks, and so they respond back poorly, but note that he reflects the energy he gets from whoever comes on his show and MANY MANY women are thankful for his work because he is guiding women away from the polygamous paradigm you are fearful of, and rightly so. The reality is that these three are all different but to conflate them all as the same would be foolish.
To me there’s nothing like the feminine energy of a traditional woman that surrenders to the man that she loves,I miss being in love and trying to create a family to me that’s the highlight of humanity trying to build a family over and over again.
@@AncientYouth64 mate his young... It's not healthy to be pondering too much about life problems at that age. Your twenties are literally about finding out your physical capabilities. You can only become wise after being young and dumb.
This is such an important conversation. Men and women are both better together (and let's mention that the human race depends on us getting along)...sex is the most sacred act, and tho f-ing can be fun, it hurts us all in the long run, at scale.
I have a physical disability and know your content has and continues to help me, of course disabilities differ but I am seeing the benefits from your content, keep it up.
16:03 this is the essence of it for me. Once you improve, you're probably fine with yourself. But then everyone else has something to discredit about you and this makes you so, so lonely and isolated. And of course even without that you feel disconnected from these shallow "friends" of yours.I am 100% sure all we need as men (and peoples) is *encouragement* . This is why it's so important that Jordan Peterson said "Make friends with people that want the best for you" (Rule 3) and furthermore "people don't neccessarily respond to that [good news] in a positive way"; "people need so little encouragement". Remember Good Will Hunting, this is the essence. Be a fucking baller. And surround with people that are too, so you can carry each other. Social Ballers, let's go.
This sounds insane. I am glad 😊 in my day I actually met people for fun, sex and dating. Now porn and instant visual gratification is damaging what reality really is.
Ultimately, I feel it comes down to self discipline to train for the times when we need wisdom to make decisions that are best for us. Learning to stand firm in what is best for you, not what you want (because like they said there are times where it can be affected by subconscious), is what the self discipline is for. It's not about making it a lifestyle, because that is where it becomes exhausting.
One night stand feels wrong, I guess I just need time to feel comfortable around someone. The biggest thing with people on youtube is they will degrade women while talking about how many one night stands they have but they are looking for someone who is not. It just contradicts their own beliefs and not helping the issue.
this Episode gave me the urgency to tell the girl I was dating, that I want a real relationship with her. first I was scared but she said yes an it feels great now
Yeah I agree as a American tbh with you this country is very nice to be in but the people are scary I love my country but the people are fucking nuts they really just want to b--- rn
Great advice! Odds are better in the real world and looking at dating exclusively through apps is a mistake. The tinder match statistics sound depressing but don’t forgot in the real world there isn’t an algorithm stopping you (because they want your money and for you to stay on the app) from chatting to someone you’re attracted to and charming her with your with charisma or at least practice, and it’s free.. you just pay with rejection but even that matures into acumen over time
Regarding willpower; not having junk food in the house (or snapping your X-box in half) vs. having the willpower to not engage in the bad habits when the temptation is in front of us. Once a young man wanted to study with the Russian mystic Gurdjieff. The young man asked Gurdjieff what he must do to further his studies. The mystic, noticing from the smell of the student that he was a smoker, told him that he must go away, and not return until he had given up smoking. The young man left as instructed, and reurned one year later, having struggled and given up smoking. He again asks Gurdijeff what he must do to continue his studies. The master told him that he must now smoke, but not become addicted. This is true will power. Is it possible?
Bro the solution is mastery over self. People who master their desires won't have any neediness. It's only when you can see a woman through a pure lens that you are able to truly love her. A lot of women don't know what they want because they don't know themselves and that's why as the men who are supposed to lead, we have to master ourselves before doing anything else.
Women will usually know what they DON’T want, so it’s better to start there. Most women also like a self-directed man, who has an inner drive, no matter what else is going on. Like my husband who works hard at everything he does and it makes no difference where we live or what is going on, he is consistent with always having goals he wants to accomplish on a daily basis. He also never complains he just gets up and does what he believes he needs to do. Nothing throws him off his stride, it’s no surprise he has achieved what he has because he makes it happen daily and is very hardworking.
To be honest, seems like the interviewer was much better than the actual guest. The guest just spouted the most obvious answers that come to mind with most people. He didn't say anything that hasn't been said before really, nothing groundbreaking. Also, polyamorous is a wild stretch for the future and I can't take it quite seriously.
the discussion in 54:00 is interesting, but I think also a parallel trend has begun recently, where women, to a large degree because of birth control, prefer more feminine men. I wonder if women will take on, in general, more masculine traits to balance out the lack from men.
I love your content and it just seems to be getting better I would say a lot of your content would work for people with aspergers I have aspergers and the message of holistic self improvement works just as well with aspergers possibly even better In terms of dating They can go to the gym They can learn conversation styles and story telling They can learn body language They can be more confident They can meditate Eat better etc etc And in doing so they would also broaden their interests and not be so narrowly focused This is what I did and afterwards I found dating easy and enjoyable, Models by Mark Manson was key for me Keep up the good work
There was a contradictory message I’m in this podcast. At first it’s discussed how back in the day it was easier for men to stand out, ‘they just had to have a car and smell good’, and that nowadays you have to be everything because women only want that ruthlessly competitive 10% of men. And then the episode ends with discussing how little you have to do to beat the competition ‘1 push-up and you beat 500 million men’. Am I misunderstanding something or is the message here just blatantly inconsistent.
As I understand it, it’s easy to stand out in the local sexual marketplace. A lot of men are out of shape, fatigued, or just out of the dating scene. Exercising consistently, eating healthier, developing a financial nest egg, and expanding your social circle will help you in the immediate area. Globally, however, most men are tiny fish in the world’s ocean. To get the ‘most desired’ women, you need to be in the top 10% of men. If you want to be globally attractive, you have to do a lot of extra effort that may or may not be worth the reward. In the end, that’s what I think the message is. Whether you want to be locally or globally attractive is your decision. I hope this helps clear things up!
I have a hard time hearing these guys give regular men advice. They are exceptionally attractive. Sure they it all didn’t land on their lap but they are what many men could never be.
Nice episode. I love men because I love my brothers & my father when he was alive, & never understood the BS misandry from 3rd wave+ feminism or red pill misogyny. We all just need to take life person by person, individual by individual. Everyone can do better/ focus on self development- women & men. If I have sons one day I hope I can raise them to embody the stronger values you both have discussed.
@@tajiri7 heya, I'm sorry but I don't fully understand what you mean- do you mean men are learning/ understanding that women don't care? I'm sorry, not fully comprehending. Please could you give more detail?
For years I've been in that group of people stuck at stage one, who know what they should be doing but can't seem to implement it in any consistent or meaningfull way, it's not a hell I'd wish on anyone...
Great podcast. I feel like the impact of trauma must be considered as well; especially for boys/young men which contributes to severe attachment anxiety and disorganized defenses against the shame of rejection; which can have profound effects on self worth and meaning. All of this appears to be undervalued, underrepresented, and under-treated in our current climate. "The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation." -- Homeboy Thoreau has aged well...
I love tall poppy syndrome. No one is better because they are a politician or athlete. The way celebrities are treated as better people in Us is disgusting. Unless you are like a life saving surgeon or something super admirable, then you are no better than others. Not sure why I’m supposed to look up to various athletes and singers or actors
I liked the cold tub story. I think, that is what men are made for. Suffering and overcoming to grow on our experience. Really nice to hear about different experiences in that regard. But then... and I keep changing my comment... First: To be relevant... do not dip into gossip. Second: If you have questions which do need a deeper consideration, give your discussion partner the possibility to reflect on it beforehand, Chris. Anyway, I think this channel might be really great with a bit more thought.
@36:00 in,... on the Fresh & Fit show,...Hamza made a good point in pointing out the difference between the Rachet Chick shows vs the ones with good guests and good advise. You have to keep in mind that there are different parts of the show,...there is the regular Fresh & Fit and then there is the Fresh & Fit: After Hours shows. They are two different things with two different purposes. The After Hours episodes are the Ratchet Chick Jerry Springer shows.
Its just feels wrong as a guy. Most men have more success when they reach 30, but most guys at 24 or 25 start feeling old. There is a huge disconnect where you feel like the best years of your life is wasted. It's a more linear path of develop a career then a relationship. Women seem like it's the opposite. They start with all the options, then more and more doors start to close depending on which door you went through initially.
Wait what? I feel this bro. I reached 25 and life is so much easier now but I honestly already feel old and it feels empty. Can you expand on what you meant by difference in men and women? I’m quite itnerstwd in it
We HAD the solution to all of this, or at least our ancestors did. They spent generations, thousands of years observing the world around them and thinking on it, for survival and for entertainment, they didn't spend all of that time and learn nothing. All of the observations we are making now, all of this "red pill" knowledge is not new, it has been suppressed and forgotten over the years by a bunch of whiny children and "have not's" and those in power who realized they could further their own careers by pandering to both sides as much as possible. We learned thousands of years ago how harem style arrangements were bad for societies, so we started to push more for monogamy and more than that we sought to achieve the best outcomes in that respect, which meant being more "rigid", stuff like adultery was punishable by death at one point because our ancestors understood that healthy relationships were the mortar that held society together, they knew that if your "components" suck then your "mortar" is also going to suck and your society will collapse as a result. Nobody wants to go back to a more rigid model though. Either way, whether they want to or not, once the crap hits the fan a rigid model is inevitably the one that will rise again.
Life is t about the colour of your pill. It’s about nuance, strength, perseverance, perspective, wisdom, love and most importantly GOD and following his word as best we can as often as we can.
The no fap part in the beginning is so true. It's small victories over time. Eventually you get to a point where porn is just of no interest. I honestly don't even care about it anymore.
Yes Les. Here's the timestamps:
00:00 Intro
02:57 The Problem with No Fap
10:47 Coping with the Difficulties of Self-Improvement
23:25 Reacting to Britney Spears
30:18 Thoughts on Red Pill TH-cam
52:01 Is the Future Polyamorous?
1:08:12 Does Everyone Have the Same Potential for Growth?
1:17:38 Where to Find Hamza
good stuff.
Why is your fresh and fit clip gone Chris?
Someone took down your video on fresh and fit (most likely fresh and fit themselves, they have a habit of using copyright strikes to wrongfully take down videos). Wanted to rewatch it and was disappointed.
I thought you were saying tall puppy syndrome and chopping down the tallest one you monster
And then people wonder why chicks in the ghetto are violent and crazy. They have to survive all these degenerate types of men. It's time for real reflection upon all of us. Stop blaming everything go n white supremacy, sometime individuals behavior needs to change and the males in this community are really F-ing up the women.
I'm grateful for the chat brother, mashallah
keep it up guys.
What a way to start 2022. Les Goh.
Ayo hamza I'm proud to be able to know you. Your teachings help man. I'm grateful:)
ur my discipline
I love you
*“If you don't design your own life plan, chances are you'll fall into someone else's plan. And guess what they have planned for you? Not much.”* - Jim Rohn
Thank you for this, true words holy.
"Let's not make those idiots useful!" said no dictator ever.
Very similar quote from Terence Mckenna, unless he took this quote from elsewhere. "If you don't make your own plan, you become part of someone elses plan." Very powerful message to relay to people.
Based and true.
Jim Rohn the GOAT
"The pain is only suffering if you fight it"
- Hamza Ahmed
Hiding an addiction away from yourself and totally avoiding it is actually exactly the same thing as putting trigger warnings all over upsetting content. It makes you more mentally fragile and susceptible over time, not less. Because the locus of control is still outside yourself. I haven't really thought about that before and I needed to hear that. Thanks Chris and Hamza.
Bullshit. Total bullshit, counter-productive, mouth-breaker take.
If you have a problem with binge eating, it's not because you're weak. It's because your house is full of junk food and in moments of weakness (not the same as 'being weak') your crutch is easily accessible.
You're not a giga-chad for sitting at a table and staring at a chocolate bar and not eating it. The best thing you can do is just not buy it in the first place.
Watched this episode last night and today got an ad on TH-cam for “polyamory relationship coaching” … You guys are spot on. It’s unsettling that this is where things seem to be heading.
Been seeing more of the same thing these past few months. Polyamory dating coach isn't something I ever thought would happen in my lifetime but here we are. I just haven't seen it push to the point of said mainstream but I'm guessing there some who are working on that. Sometimes the future isn't that bright as I thought when I was 5
@@raptortownIt's in the book of Revelations. A side effect of the ever developing technology in this world.
Honestly, I’m physically disabled (in a wheelchair) and I still feel concerned by this type of content, I started working out which is something I wasn’t even thinking about before and your content has helped me really much
I truly admire you, all the luck in the world for you brother
@@christpierre 💪🏼💪🏼🙏
@@christpierre it’s not always easy, we just gotta stay consistent !
Wouldn't your doctor have mentioned you should do some upper body workouts at least?
@@kratos.8151 no, because my illness impact the link between my brain and my muscles, and it was getting worse and worse, so pretty much no hope was possible until scientist found a remedy which stabilize my, and I decided to start working out to gain strength
Just a suggestion, I'd really love to see a podcast with Alexander Grace if possible, you discussed him briefly in the Britney segment
There's a full section about a video of his at the end, I'll connect with him soon
@@ChrisWillx awesome, thanks for the response!
@@ChrisWillx Yeah I’d love that. He is very intelligent, understanding and has great arguments
I was into pickup before, but the guys I looked up to were never about "conquering" her, but rather overcoming social anxiety, communicating stress-free and playfully.
I'm glad I never went down a bitter path, if anything, the bitterness was directed towards myself.
"So you don't want to play League of Legends, so you snap the game in half and delete your Xbox account." That's hilarious. It's like Chris is 65 years old already.
@@realistic_delinquent as a league player... you're not wrong... sigh...
@@ronin4160 The world of gaming is bigger than just the games designed to be addictive, like LOL. I see gaming as an artform, like movies, music, literature. Obviously you can chose to only consume trash TV and read celebrity news tabloids,... Or you can chose masterpieces wisely. Gaming itself can be a positive thing, it is up to the person who consumes it, as it is with anything.
@@gamercatsz5441 I'd agree years ago. Many years ago... nobody is making valuable games nowadays
@@ronin4160 Ultrakill is pretty good
@@ronin4160 Games with puposly addictive elements added are kind of evil. They Just want you to come back again And again to get your cheap dopamine fix. Be mindfull of What you consume. Same goes for TH-cam or surfing habits
Can we take a moment to appreciate how good of a listener Chris is? @48:47, I loved how Chris just framed Hamza's advice from earlier in the video, to the situation he was currently struggling with right now in such an intuitive way, that not only showed his quick thinking, but also his ability to apply meaningful concepts to different situations
Hell yes
To make a long story short : Wow, that was amazing, and my mind is blown. About the casual sex, I think Dr. Jordan Peterson himself said it best when he claimed (and I'm paraphrasing) : ''Casual sex is a contradiction in terms.. for there is nothing casual about it.'' And I think that sums up a lot of the problems we're seeing today and that you adressed.
I am 20 and I really don’t mind dying alone without intimacy long as I get to make great art. I workout daily taking Sunday and Saturday off and I work on my artistic venture everyday for almost a year. Women, love and sex are things I don’t mind not having, my impulse to needing to create new life is one I want to focus on creating good art. It’s all the impulse asking you to transcend wut you’re. Not compering wut is being created but the process of creation itself.
At age 18-19 I was in a serious semi-schizophrenic state. My head would constantly tell me that I was going to end up committing suicide and I wouldn’t be able to shut it up, that and a serious lack of interest in the world, in living and in dying. My Christian faith even tho I tried to destroy it soo many times so I could be “free” was wut made me conceive death as not the ending. My believe in the transcendent dint make death an absolute so my depression was never able to push me to death. But I was stuck in this state of dying slowly started considering becoming a monk actually. All this to say I came out of it and this might be cope but all I want to do now is create a piece of art that can aspire some future genius, I want to be great or aid something great.
Lol go out and get girls bro you’re awesome
Some of the biggest cope I've ever read.
@@AlfaHazard maybe.
@Nick C. that this doesn’t seem healthy… everyone healthy good man should have women
Don't feel you have to listen to other people e.g. these commenters (or me).
Make your own decision and if it's "wrong" for you, you'll figure that out in time. Most decisions aren't a one-way door and you can always change your mind later down the line.
Sometimes it's actually healthy NOT to focus on dating/women for a chapter in your life, and instead focus on creativity, or career, or education or something else. You don't have to chase it all at once. You might just get overwhelmed and burnt out.
As an ex-artist turned designer myself (with some regret about my decision, but time to change it being 20yo as well) I relate to and somewhat even envy your decision to pursue art above all else. It seems noble.
A large part of the trouble is that we have our intuition and our logical minds at war with each other. But if we listened to our intuition a bit more (and I mean intuition, not our impulses - they're different) I think we would make better decisions in the long-term. That's my 2 cents anyway.
The expression 'tall poppy syndrome' comes frome the Roman historian Livy. According to him, the last king of Rome, Tarquin the proud, was at war with the neighbouring city Gabii. It was too strong to take by force, so he sent his son to infiltrate it. The son, pretending to have been exiled by his father, worked his way to the top of the city. When he had taken control of it, he sent a messenger to his father to ask what should be done. The father didn't say anything to the messenger, instead he walked into the gardens and chopped down the tallest poppies with his cane. When the son heard what the messenger had seen, he executed all the elites of the city, and thus it fell to Rome.
The term is famously used in Australia more so than UK, America or Canada. Chris is the first person I’ve heard use ‘tall poppy syndrome’, outside of Australia
@@Nah-ah I have heard it used in the UK and USA.
This is one of the best conversations I've ever heard. You two are extremely good together
Chris, the story of Jordan Peterson answering the question of the person's consciousness having too much depth... it moved me so much right now, so much... this is what I felt for years, and I had no idea how to phrase it, until now. Oh my god... thank you, thank you for this revelation. Thank you so much.....
The dating game is an updated version of the same game that humans have always been playing:
Survival of the fittest.
We are not dying of famine/plagues/war etc the way we used to, but birth rates are dropping like crazy because it's too expensive to have children. Only the top tier of men can afford to have children, and only a small percentage of young women choose motherhood over a career path. Only those select few are having (multiple, healthy) children to produce further generations. Brutal reality, but life has always been brutal in one form or another. I wish all of you good health and mental fortitude. Greetings from a degenerate NYC my friends
@v v Wrong, my good sir. It's encouraged and rewarded
@@VeritasIncrebresco Even with the new perks, I'm still not interested in the gig!
It's not that expensive to have a kid, I have three and my wife stays at home, people are just bad with money
Theres some great insights here, really interesting way of putting it
@MrRocksW I don't mean this as a blackpilled argument for dating being a futile attempt, strictly an observation. It's a problem, and men need to sort their lives out in order to get out of their bottom feeder situation. And (young) women need to make a very important decision - to go against whatever BS they've been told in the last half century about following a career path. Neither are easy to do, but both are essential
Thank you for this mature conversation about ‘Red Pill Content’. It’s good to hear young men thinking for themselves in a world that tries to think for you.
Theres a lot of money to be made coaching men to take accountability for their negative behaviours….but big thing always missing from these men’s discussions is how to hold women accountable for their negative behaviours.
I think it would be better to frame it along the lines of holding others generally accountable for their poor behaviors, whether they be your partner, friends, colleagues, or community members, though I do think you're right in the sense there should be a focus on holding your partner accountable. It's delicate and hard thing to do without coming off like an asshole or making the situation worse, and coaching could be a huge help in this. It's extremely difficult to have a conversation with your partner to discuss the negative things s/he has done, and showing young men how to do this in a mature and decent manner would be a big step in the right direction.
@@rogerk662 I think I framed it beautifully…Don’t semi-white knight this… just be honest with women about their poor behaviour the same way you are honest with yourself and your male friends about their poor behaviour.
If you are a man on holistic self-improvement, you’ll naturally hold women accountable for their negative actions. It won’t be fully conscious, your time and energy will be too valuable to waste on reinforcing bad behaviour
Literally redpill is just shaming gaslighting men for things out of their control dating is mostly face race height hair
@@thedarkestknight8381 yeh i agree… redpill community when it began was great but it has been ruined by fake no fap flexing influencers who all have a coaching business to suck blood out of incels…. Its pretty gross… if you just pause all the dating temporarily, then get a job, get your own home, get some sound financial investments going for your future and confront life without trying to get anyone else to comfort you whilst you do it, then you will learn how to be a man quickly.
💎💎💎Here are my notes (w/ DETAILED TIMESTAMPS)
Great episode been checking Hamza's main and second channel in the past week and learnt a lot - so thank you both!
00:44
holistic self-improvement
01:08
no pill actually gives proper well-rounded advice
02:16
The red pill is like a cult
03:04
nofap
04:17
nofap can put you into a -ve downward spiral if you break your "streak"
04:54
took hamza 5 yrs break his habit
05:31
your mental viewpoint on your behaviours is at times 50% of your mental talk and way you view yourself
06:59
new identity = change in triggers + habits
07:52
environment design is key at the START but after a while you want to get deeper understanding on what triggers that behaviour
10:57
“self-development depression”
12:59
Plato's allegory of the cave 💎
17:33
You need to go deeper and turn that pain into the norm of being in that situation! 💎
18:39
in the beginning, our perception of pain is inverted when it comes to +ve habits and vice versa with -ve → you want to stick through the pain because it WILL get easier/enjoyable!
20:43
mindfulness training
21:36
the power of surrender 💎
31:48
by emulating the red pill TH-camrs you end up attracting low-quality women who the red pill TH-camrs are sleeping with and not actually in a healthy dynamic with!
35:21
its taught by -ve media
36:41
the beta in you feels satisfied when seeing f+f arguing and winning arguments - it's all just petty and never actually leads to growth! Stop wasting time-consuming
38:52
be bitter or be better
39:50
when watching that cheap entertainment - it's like junk food not healthy and you don't feel like your highest self when subject to it!
40:38
the red pill if you go too far in can distort your mind and make you view women as not a team member you build with but as an enemy, you must conquer - SUPER SUPER toxic mentality, count yourself lucky if you don't think this way!
40:38
are you looking for value or cheap entertainment masked as value?????
42:03
This reminds me of the way of the superior man - the true alpha/masculine man enjoys female and feminine nature as it polarises/balances them and is a part of human nature
48:23
Maslow's hierarchy of needs
49:11
it takes time to change your behaviour...be patient!
56:16
the agricultural revolution allowed some men to accrue resources and wealth - which made them highly attractive - they would then have large harems of women who they could keep safe - this is where a lot of men's ability to have children decreased as they were no longer seen as an option for women - “some women would rather share an alpha than be saddled with a beta long term”
57:26
the unstable society where a small minority of men get all the women is actually NEVER good! In a way, the agricultural revolution and loss from hunter-gatherer society messed human society up
59:00
this is FACTS think Netflix shows that have come out recently
01:01:14
media really DOESNT teach you the realities of dating and being in an actual loving and caring healthy relationship! Drama captures attention and with media when the only metric they're maximising is attention - drama will win all day everyday even at the expense of truth
01:04:43
life is literally like a movie man
01:10:20
30-50% of ppl in black pill and incel fall on the spectrum - so interesting to see how Chris brought up his point on, yes, there are people who self-development isn't going to always work as well as the majority - and as much as he feels for them at the same time the content he puts out is for his younger self and people who are similar to that
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The problem I'm seeing in dating in my 30s is the amount of broken women from previous relationships. As much are women are to blame so are my fellow brothers for poisoning the well for the rest of us
Again, what you're missing is that it is a very small group of men who do that. Only a few men get success like that at a young age. I used to think the same as you, until I realised how many decent men got rejected before him or how many red flags there were.
Please invite this man once again to have a chat brother, he has matured 3x times than the last time you spoke to him ,,,
As someone who recently stumbled upon the names mentioned in this chat, I’m grateful for the awareness that it brought me. I also became aware of the toxic thoughts that came with watching the content and how my views started to objectivity people and has me questioning why and how I can evolve from those thoughts.
Adonisssss, an inspiration from Hamza to another Hamza… thank you Hamza 🙏🏽
thanks Hamza #2
It's time. Adonisss cult rise up!
Excited for this one.
lol this was basically just one long reminder of how I need to get back in the gym. I had been going religiously for 15 years but when everything shut down due to the rona I just completely fell off the wagon and have struggled to get back into the habit.
Also developed a great sense of apathy towards everything. Don't care that I'm not dating anymore... just focused on being grateful for what I have rather than chasing happiness and meaning and enlightenment. I have a good job, no debt, no felonies live on my own and don't bother anyone and it works for me.
I found red pill years ago and did the whole "gym bro, bang gurls" life style.. ended up dating a girl for 4yrs towards the end of that and once it ended said "to heck with this" as, even when things were good, it was still a struggle. I guess I'm trending more towards black pill thinking now, but that's just me, not saying everyone should think that way.
researchers consistently fail to address the magnitude of this issue.
People ultimately need love and validation. When a man doesn't matter to a woman, when she doesn't gaze at him with a loving smile, tell him she wants him/needs him, that he matters to her.
A lot of guys have never had that.
This will cause disillusionment/isolation/soul sadness and mental health issues in men. No amount of material things, por* will be able to replace that.
The problem in the west is 2 fold. Incels can't get a woman and the ones that do get one, end up in divorce/breaking up or being cheated on and losing more than the lady. So they swear off relationships and end up lonely all the same. (Mgtow)
Both have the effect of creating lonely, angry, atomised ppl and broken society with plummeting birth rates. And can spell the end of that society.
What are we seeing in the west now?
Falling sperm counts, falling testosterone levels, births, marriage, and a rapidly ageing society, with catastrophic debt levels.
White ppl used to have close family bonds but now they no longer keep ties with family and send old ppl to homes.
Jobs for life are a thing of the past, from where they used to form friends.
White ppl lost their matchmaking culture and used to marry form within their own tried and tested social circle.
With all that now gone, internet dating and cold approaching/PUA random women that u know nothing about is the way. Which can be toxic.
Is that you Rob? 😆
Thanks Chris, always enjoy mature and intelligent discussions on this topic. Us single guys are really struggling out here!
OMG just finished the entire video in one sitting. I don’t even think I blinked. This was absolutely amazing. Thank you
This is absolute gold. I could listen to you two talk about the pros and cons of assisting yourself with blockers or not for an hour itself. I wish you guys went even deeper there.
Chris as always love your work! I would however like to make the distinction between, Fresh and Fit, Rollo, and Kevin Samuels, they are in no ways similar, and in fact very distinct.
Fresh and Fit bring up women, whom like you and Hamza said most young men dislike but are attracted to, bash them as a class and feed off a young man's anger phase after taking the red pill.
Rollo simply uses modern day illustrations of his concepts of female behavior, such as Will and Jada Smith. He simply points out female behavior and what it is in the wider context of how society views female nature.
Kevin spent 3 years speaking to men. He blew up when he began speaking about women because of what his clients wanted. Regardless of what you may think Kevin does not bash women, he clearly just tells the truth of what most men want and women because they live in our modern day society are shocked at what a man REALLY thinks, and so they respond back poorly, but note that he reflects the energy he gets from whoever comes on his show and MANY MANY women are thankful for his work because he is guiding women away from the polygamous paradigm you are fearful of, and rightly so.
The reality is that these three are all different but to conflate them all as the same would be foolish.
To me there’s nothing like the feminine energy of a traditional woman that surrenders to the man that she loves,I miss being in love and trying to create a family to me that’s the highlight of humanity trying to build a family over and over again.
Hamza is such an impressive man with incredible insight and maturity at the young age of 24. Thanks for getting him on your podcast. This was golden.
@@AncientYouth64 wat?
@@AncientYouth64 right, having self awareness and critically engaging with TH-cam sources as these two are advocating, is bad. Gotcha
@@AncientYouth64 tell us that you didn't even watch the video without telling us that you didn't even watch the video
@@AncientYouth64 mate his young... It's not healthy to be pondering too much about life problems at that age. Your twenties are literally about finding out your physical capabilities. You can only become wise after being young and dumb.
@@AncientYouth64
You've a lot of insecurities. Only the people with weak mindset, more ego don't like to take inspiration and follow anyone.
@hamza seems like just a genuinely cheerful happy guy laughs at everything and is in the moment .
I just had a big grin on the whole time. Did need that consciousness dump. Thanks mates
You two guys are like genuinely GOATed, love this podcast sooo much
Please bring Hamza back. This was so fun and interesting to listen too. Thank chris williamson. 🙏
This is such an important conversation. Men and women are both better together (and let's mention that the human race depends on us getting along)...sex is the most sacred act, and tho f-ing can be fun, it hurts us all in the long run, at scale.
Having Rollo on your show would be a good idea
I have a physical disability and know your content has and continues to help me, of course disabilities differ but I am seeing the benefits from your content, keep it up.
16:03 this is the essence of it for me. Once you improve, you're probably fine with yourself. But then everyone else has something to discredit about you and this makes you so, so lonely and isolated. And of course even without that you feel disconnected from these shallow "friends" of yours.I am 100% sure all we need as men (and peoples) is *encouragement* . This is why it's so important that Jordan Peterson said "Make friends with people that want the best for you" (Rule 3) and furthermore "people don't neccessarily respond to that [good news] in a positive way"; "people need so little encouragement". Remember Good Will Hunting, this is the essence. Be a fucking baller. And surround with people that are too, so you can carry each other. Social Ballers, let's go.
Love this guy Hamz! Only a year older than me and he really motivated me to take life into my own hands.
Always insightful and informative, Chris.. Cheers from Australia 🇦🇺
Really good episode. Need to check out more of Hamza
This sounds insane. I am glad 😊 in my day I actually met people for fun, sex and dating. Now porn and instant visual gratification is damaging what reality really is.
This is the podcast i want to hear
Ultimately, I feel it comes down to self discipline to train for the times when we need wisdom to make decisions that are best for us. Learning to stand firm in what is best for you, not what you want (because like they said there are times where it can be affected by subconscious), is what the self discipline is for. It's not about making it a lifestyle, because that is where it becomes exhausting.
The breakdown of Fresh and Fit was sooooo damn accurate 😂😂
The Jay part got me lol
The fresh part was so true 😂😂
Yeah that part had me dying
The fact that so many men listen to these toxic men explains how lost men are today.
@@EC-yl7xkMen are lost because we have discouraged men being men in society.
Wow, Chris - that insight from Jordan Peterson regarding consciousness blew my mind. Thanks for sharing.
One night stand feels wrong, I guess I just need time to feel comfortable around someone.
The biggest thing with people on youtube is they will degrade women while talking about how many one night stands they have but they are looking for someone who is not. It just contradicts their own beliefs and not helping the issue.
this Episode gave me the urgency to tell the girl I was dating, that I want a real relationship with her.
first I was scared but she said yes an it feels great now
Good for you man
The countdown has started my friend. She will eventually despise you for being the one who initiated the commitment phase, instead of her.
you are already a beta in her eyes, she is thinking " is this really the best i can do? "
Good luck brother, hope you two have a great relationship and a great life!
Don't listen to these projecting blackpillers, they try to give relationship advice but they never had one lmao
Using tools to help quit bad habbits helps until your strong enough to do it on your own
Thank you so much for bringing Hamza into this video, love from Portugal!!!
I really love the UK self improvement channels compared to the US red pill channels in my opinion, it's just way more Authentic.
I agree. I’m an Aussie and I’m more leaning towards the UK content more so than US, leas drama in my opinion!
Yeah I agree as a American tbh with you this country is very nice to be in but the people are scary I love my country but the people are fucking nuts they really just want to b--- rn
@@mickethegoblin7167 No, it’s more balanced and less extreme. UK in general tends to produce more nuanced opinions
Great advice guys. Great podcast.
Loved that Hamza actually takes time to reflect before he answers .
Great advice! Odds are better in the real world and looking at dating exclusively through apps is a mistake. The tinder match statistics sound depressing but don’t forgot in the real world there isn’t an algorithm stopping you (because they want your money and for you to stay on the app) from chatting to someone you’re attracted to and charming her with your with charisma or at least practice, and it’s free.. you just pay with rejection but even that matures into acumen over time
Hamza manages to remove a lot of the cope swirling around redpill circles online and injects in a little nuance.
That's appreciated.
Regarding willpower; not having junk food in the house (or snapping your X-box in half) vs. having the willpower to not engage in the bad habits when the temptation is in front of us. Once a young man wanted to study with the Russian mystic Gurdjieff. The young man asked Gurdjieff what he must do to further his studies. The mystic, noticing from the smell of the student that he was a smoker, told him that he must go away, and not return until he had given up smoking. The young man left as instructed, and reurned one year later, having struggled and given up smoking. He again asks Gurdijeff what he must do to continue his studies. The master told him that he must now smoke, but not become addicted. This is true will power. Is it possible?
Tall poppy syndrome.
I learned here in the USA. The nail that sticks up is the one that gets hammered.
The last 8 minutes was incredibly eye opening. What a good mindset shift. Thanks guys.
Bro the solution is mastery over self. People who master their desires won't have any neediness. It's only when you can see a woman through a pure lens that you are able to truly love her. A lot of women don't know what they want because they don't know themselves and that's why as the men who are supposed to lead, we have to master ourselves before doing anything else.
Brilliant, thank you!
Why are then most of men left to fend for themselves and parents are too stupid to teach them that they need to lead?
Women will usually know what they DON’T want, so it’s better to start there. Most women also like a self-directed man, who has an inner drive, no matter what else is going on. Like my husband who works hard at everything he does and it makes no difference where we live or what is going on, he is consistent with always having goals he wants to accomplish on a daily basis. He also never complains he just gets up and does what he believes he needs to do. Nothing throws him off his stride, it’s no surprise he has achieved what he has because he makes it happen daily and is very hardworking.
"You want to quit League of Legends so you snap the game in half and delete the XBox account" is the funniest thing I've heard all day
Holy , Hamza had only 220k subs , now he has 580k in just 5 months!
2mio now lmao
Pain becomes pleasure so true when he said if I don't get soar i am like shit i didn't hit it correct 💯 it's more painful to see that.
Thanks for providing content for those of us still looking for value.
I’ve always like coach Corey Wayne, he has a positive outlook when it comes to relationships, whether he’s right or wrong?
Did a push-up to be better than 500 million men! Thanks @Hamza
I did 2. So I'm better than 1 billion.
@@George-vf7ss dedicated
Awesome would love too see you guys talk again in a future time
Incredible podcast, thank you guys
Loved this episode! Can't wait for the next time Hamza is on :D
This has been very enlightening, specially the part about leaving the cave and handling the discomfort.
Wow, you two are something different, introspection. I see why people like to listen to you.
simple -
1- look good
2- be rich
To be honest, seems like the interviewer was much better than the actual guest. The guest just spouted the most obvious answers that come to mind with most people. He didn't say anything that hasn't been said before really, nothing groundbreaking. Also, polyamorous is a wild stretch for the future and I can't take it quite seriously.
I’m subscribed to both of these guy’s channel!.!.
No one talks about how one woman could want more than one guy. It's a thing.
the discussion in 54:00 is interesting, but I think also a parallel trend has begun recently, where women, to a large degree because of birth control, prefer more feminine men. I wonder if women will take on, in general, more masculine traits to balance out the lack from men.
I love your content and it just seems to be getting better
I would say a lot of your content would work for people with aspergers
I have aspergers and the message of holistic self improvement works just as well with aspergers possibly even better
In terms of dating
They can go to the gym
They can learn conversation styles and story telling
They can learn body language
They can be more confident
They can meditate
Eat better
etc etc
And in doing so they would also broaden their interests and not be so narrowly focused
This is what I did and afterwards I found dating easy and enjoyable, Models by Mark Manson was key for me
Keep up the good work
yessss
Hello you beauty tips blogger
Damn, Ali watches Hamza?? Ali based af
@@themarathoncontinues4211 fr
There was a contradictory message I’m in this podcast. At first it’s discussed how back in the day it was easier for men to stand out, ‘they just had to have a car and smell good’, and that nowadays you have to be everything because women only want that ruthlessly competitive 10% of men. And then the episode ends with discussing how little you have to do to beat the competition ‘1 push-up and you beat 500 million men’. Am I misunderstanding something or is the message here just blatantly inconsistent.
As I understand it, it’s easy to stand out in the local sexual marketplace. A lot of men are out of shape, fatigued, or just out of the dating scene. Exercising consistently, eating healthier, developing a financial nest egg, and expanding your social circle will help you in the immediate area.
Globally, however, most men are tiny fish in the world’s ocean. To get the ‘most desired’ women, you need to be in the top 10% of men. If you want to be globally attractive, you have to do a lot of extra effort that may or may not be worth the reward.
In the end, that’s what I think the message is. Whether you want to be locally or globally attractive is your decision. I hope this helps clear things up!
I have a hard time hearing these guys give regular men advice. They are exceptionally attractive. Sure they it all didn’t land on their lap but they are what many men could never be.
@@eznosnopes5276 to be honest hamza's face is not attractive. He has a nice body, good height, money, social status and good jaw line.
This is great, please do more podcasts together.
Nice episode. I love men because I love my brothers & my father when he was alive, & never understood the BS misandry from 3rd wave+ feminism or red pill misogyny. We all just need to take life person by person, individual by individual. Everyone can do better/ focus on self development- women & men. If I have sons one day I hope I can raise them to embody the stronger values you both have discussed.
Doesn’t matter if the other side doesn’t care, that’s what men are learning
@@tajiri7 heya, I'm sorry but I don't fully understand what you mean- do you mean men are learning/ understanding that women don't care? I'm sorry, not fully comprehending. Please could you give more detail?
Red pill isn't by definition misogynistic - we don't hate women, we just understand them. Perhaps women find both ideas quite frightening.
@ Eloise Soleil 👍🏾👍🏾
Well Said, In No way shape or form is Being a misandrist or misogynist a good thing. That Was really well explained👏
Mr. Williamson comes across as bright, informed and a good communicator.
Hamza, hmm?
For years I've been in that group of people stuck at stage one, who know what they should be doing but can't seem to implement it in any consistent or meaningfull way,
it's not a hell I'd wish on anyone...
Great episode. It actually brought an interesting concept that Chris has spoke about before which is, commenting for the algorithm x
You will continue to be seasick until you become the Ocean. -Leonard Cohen
The fact that this is called "how men can SURVIVE the modern dating world" says it all.
Nice, long pause at 14:43. Very wholesome
Great podcast. I feel like the impact of trauma must be considered as well; especially for boys/young men which contributes to severe attachment anxiety and disorganized defenses against the shame of rejection; which can have profound effects on self worth and meaning. All of this appears to be undervalued, underrepresented, and under-treated in our current climate.
"The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation." -- Homeboy Thoreau has aged well...
"Tall poppy syndrome" is strong in Australia. But I think you can look at it as a positive thing. Means less competition
I love tall poppy syndrome. No one is better because they are a politician or athlete.
The way celebrities are treated as better people in Us is disgusting.
Unless you are like a life saving surgeon or something super admirable, then you are no better than others.
Not sure why I’m supposed to look up to various athletes and singers or actors
I liked the cold tub story. I think, that is what men are made for. Suffering and overcoming to grow on our experience. Really nice to hear about different experiences in that regard. But then... and I keep changing my comment...
First: To be relevant... do not dip into gossip.
Second: If you have questions which do need a deeper consideration, give your discussion partner the possibility to reflect on it beforehand, Chris.
Anyway, I think this channel might be really great with a bit more thought.
Beautiful conversation. Thank you both.
@36:00 in,... on the Fresh & Fit show,...Hamza made a good point in pointing out the difference between the Rachet Chick shows vs the ones with good guests and good advise. You have to keep in mind that there are different parts of the show,...there is the regular Fresh & Fit and then there is the Fresh & Fit: After Hours shows. They are two different things with two different purposes. The After Hours episodes are the Ratchet Chick Jerry Springer shows.
Its just feels wrong as a guy. Most men have more success when they reach 30, but most guys at 24 or 25 start feeling old. There is a huge disconnect where you feel like the best years of your life is wasted. It's a more linear path of develop a career then a relationship.
Women seem like it's the opposite. They start with all the options, then more and more doors start to close depending on which door you went through initially.
Wait what?
I feel this bro. I reached 25 and life is so much easier now but I honestly already feel old and it feels empty.
Can you expand on what you meant by difference in men and women? I’m quite itnerstwd in it
We HAD the solution to all of this, or at least our ancestors did. They spent generations, thousands of years observing the world around them and thinking on it, for survival and for entertainment, they didn't spend all of that time and learn nothing. All of the observations we are making now, all of this "red pill" knowledge is not new, it has been suppressed and forgotten over the years by a bunch of whiny children and "have not's" and those in power who realized they could further their own careers by pandering to both sides as much as possible.
We learned thousands of years ago how harem style arrangements were bad for societies, so we started to push more for monogamy and more than that we sought to achieve the best outcomes in that respect, which meant being more "rigid", stuff like adultery was punishable by death at one point because our ancestors understood that healthy relationships were the mortar that held society together, they knew that if your "components" suck then your "mortar" is also going to suck and your society will collapse as a result. Nobody wants to go back to a more rigid model though. Either way, whether they want to or not, once the crap hits the fan a rigid model is inevitably the one that will rise again.
Exactly what I'v been waiting for 😍
The bathrobe guru.
Snap league in half LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 7:24
Life is t about the colour of your pill. It’s about nuance, strength, perseverance, perspective, wisdom, love and most importantly GOD and following his word as best we can as often as we can.
Fresh and Fit aren't alphas. They are pick up artists.
They are nothing but scammers.
The no fap part in the beginning is so true. It's small victories over time. Eventually you get to a point where porn is just of no interest. I honestly don't even care about it anymore.