No disrepect to Yuri Gagarin... I meant Al Shepard was the first **US** man in space, since we're talking about US bathroom problems. Would you be comfortable with a space toilet or kneading your fecal matter? UGH! 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
I have used latrines at Boy Scout summer camp (until the BSA National Office and state health departments mandated the use of campsite flush toilets in the long-term camps; High Adventure bases such as Philmont are exempt), a chemical toilet (with a "slopping out" bucket) at the family cabin, and even "brown capped" in the woods. So using the SpaceX, Boeing Starliner, Soyuz, or ISS toilet systems would not bother me.
When I was a trucker I used a portable camping toilet with a working manual pump flush. I’d empty the waste in truck stop toilets. It was a godsend when I was stuck at shippers and receivers with no restrooms.
@@defendmoon6813 provided that you don't get sick and have stuff come out of both ends at the same time like what happened to Frank Borman on Apollo 8.
I was wondering where SpaceX put the toilet... And NO, I wouldn't be at all comfortable using a space toilet with only a curtain for privacy. Thanks for this week's Two Minute Tuesday!!!
Imagine (or don’t) the noises related to activity so a curtain won’t stop the noise or smells but I know they are trained to be good adults as all of them will do it.
Their food is meant to be part of a "low residue" diet, thus reducing the need to go No. 2. Flight surgeons are always hounding on the astronauts to drink plenty of water, and that is due to the prevention of urinary tract and kidney infections that affected astronaut Fred Haise during the return phase of Apollo 13 (which was beyond his control due to the need of rationing the water in the LM).
@@FB0102 it's been well-documented. U-2 pilots would do the same before flying their flights (as they have to wear pressure suits due to the altitude and unpressurized cabin) and NASA has done the same with Mercury, Gemini, Apollo (including Skylab and ASTP), and Shuttle. Out of all of them, only the Apollo missions had "fecal containment systems" (a pair of tight-fitting shorts similar to athletic compression shorts) but that was meant to only be used when necessary (and only when REALLY necessary), thus the low-residue diets the prime and backup crews ate many days in advance to the launch.
There was also a shuttle mission that was almost recalled early because of toilet failure and serious risk of having to resort to Apollo era bags as backup.
@@mancubwwa it was STS-3 that had the toilet malfunction and the crew, Jack Lousma (Skylab 3 veteran) and Gordon Fullerton (of the Group 7 of MOL astronauts) had to use the Apollo bags. There was also an incident on the classified DoD STS-33 where presumably (according to Scott Manley in his video) Commander Frederick Gregory almost depressurized the Shuttle cabin when he was "squeezing his 'Captain's Log' out"; the vacuum system actually malfunctioned, causing the cabin leak.
@@rwboa22 well, official nasa document lists "Cabin leak through WCS" as significant anomaly on STS-33, so this gives credence to Scott's version of events.
Putting it right in front was an interesting choice. Since the crew undoubtedly spends most of their time in their seats, using the toilet makes sure that you will have an audience. I'm a little surprised that they didn't put it behind the seats.
(Gross) fun fact: On one Apollo mission there was a toilet malfunction. So they had a "floater". Yes, fecal matter floating in the cabin, so they had to catch it, get the lid fixed and make sure it didn't happen again, the audio logs are pretty funny to read.
What toilet malfunction are you talking about? There was no toilet of any kind on any of Apollo missions. Or maybe fecal matter leaving plastic bag is more an user malfunction, than bag itself... // I guess you're talking about Apollo 8 and Frank Borman issues (puking and shitting same time).
@@override7486 As I said in my other post, it was on Apollo 10. And there was a toilett, although it was more like a lavatory, and yes, plastic bags were used. I think the lid of the container didn't close, so some poop escaped, floated through the capsule and needed to be caught and sealed away. Search for Apollo 10 and poop to see about the story.
@@Sk4lli I have no idea what you're talking about, and it looks like nor do You really. A toilet in Command Module? A lavatory?? With 3 people stuck in such a tiny space, even some cubicle container for waste, not bigger than size of your butt sounds like a dream. In fact, they just used "regular" plastic bags with opening and they just stick it to the ass and try to squeeze your load of fecal matter into it, without loosing or spillage, which is not very difficult due to microG. When finished, they sealed the bag and knead content to mix it by hand with some antibacterial stuff... I don't know where you got this toilet news from, but googling doesn't bring any results whatsoever. Just stories about poop floating in CM, but this is heard in original audio loop from the mission and the crew...
Two thoughts here, 1, few of the commenters seem to have experienced the joys of post serious surgery stays in hospital - there's virtually no privacy there. And 2, in weightless conditions there is no gravity to help the poop separate from your rear end - each one has to be "helped" to detach.
@@VideoManDan Wag bags, I don't know if that's the correct spelling but I used them before whilst in training deployment. The worse though is finding a place to take dump in the middle of nowhere! Lol
@@Devinci297 Wouldn't it have been easier to just dig a hole in the soil/sand and do things like our ancient ancestors used to do it? Carrying around a waste bag seems a bit pointless.
@@mancubwwa If you can keep your dock sealed for 27 hours, no problem. Absolutely doable, but can you promise that, especially after learning that astronauts report that physiology is confused by drastic change in conditions - obviously lack of gravity is not often experienced - and can behave unpredictably.
I think folks are curious, partly because this spacecraft is so small (compared to the ISS and Shuttle). I just wondered where they would put it. Thanks!
@@mancubwwa Soyuz has 3 modules and 2 are accessible for the crew on start (the third one is just equipment). If I remember correctly from one of "tour over ISS" videos the toilet equipment (very robust and far from comfort) is in the section that attaches to ISS, while the descending module (the one with seats used during launch and landing) is the next one. So as strange as might seem, for sake of privacy at least, Soyuz actually might have its advantages. While Dragon is in principle one big common room for everything (plus cargo trunk that is not hermetic, therefore is not accessible for crew).
@@adammarkiewicz3375 yes, but total space inside is still less than crew dragon with both modules. The descent module is downright claustrophobic especially with crew of three.
@@mancubwwa Of course you're right, I'm not counting everything together. I'm only stating that in context of having privacy, two claustrophobic small rooms have more oportunities than single bigger one - still with more people on board.
All astronauts and NASA/Roscosmos/ESA/JAXA staff involved in a launch spend weeks in quarantine in the same building, before a launch, to avoid exactly that. They spend more than the standard viral incubation period of 14 days quarantined, no physical contact with outsiders, masks and PPE worn around each other; and this has dated back to the Mercury missions. One guy on an Apollo mission was hit by severe diarrhoea and vomiting associated with his body not coping with the change between earth and space, rather than a virus (and no other crew got sick) but it would not have been easy for him at all.
@@adammarkiewicz3375 you're not wrong. The others would probably have felt more helpless than grossed out though. They put their bodies through a lot in training, they're scientists, they know what might happen. But how the hell does one provide comfort to someone so sick in space? As you said, can't open windows to let some fresh air in.
@@KatiB5587 Training of being in stink for several days continously without a break? Hmmm... On the other hand - why not? When this should be checked if not still on Earth before launch? Although I imagine this to be survivable, I bet it is still far from enjoyable, even fore someone with training.
One of the more candid books about the Apollo program (sorry, can't remember its name) told the story of the recovery at sea of the command module for one of the missions. When the first frogman opened the hatch of what the author called a "flying toilet," he was bowled over by the odor back into the ocean. A little detail NASA never publicized.
Get out! 🤣🤣🤣 (South east Aus, me. Was a huge fangirl of Andy Thomas when he was on Mir during my childhood, because my school humble bragged about our homegrown astronaut. I hope we have another astronaut from our shores during my lifetime. As terrible as your joke is, I'd be disappointed if it doesn't get used when showing a new Aussie the latrine)
Well, I’m glad that came out ok. Hope they remembered to fill in the log book. 😁 EDIT: plus I'd just like to say you are my Number One or Number Two favorite TH-cam channel 😁
Can't be nearly as awkward as using a C-130's toilet. It does have a curtain, but right on the other side would be up to 63 other Soldiers and the plane's crew. Plus, at the end of the flight, the last person to use it, has to empty it out.
Fun fact: The first 1-3 days, the crew members are usually experiencing a degree of constipation as peristalsis slows down in micro gravity then around day 3-4 there will be a more “explosive” bowel movement
I could imagine the astronauts on the two crew Dragon fights saying can we go faster to get to the space station so we can use the better toilet with more privacy.
In addition to proper functionality, a good toilet (in space or otherwise) do require three different types of privacy: 1. Visive privacy; You don't want anybody else watching you in the act, be first or second. 2. Acoustic privacy; You don't want anybody else listening at the noises produced during any of the two possible acts. 3. Odour privacy; You don't want anybody to smell the odours produced, especially from act two. ------------ Any toilet (in space or otherwise) which doesn't allow simultaneously for the three types of shielding mentioned above, is considered uncomfortable. In the limited habitation room of a Space Capsule, it is understandable that privacy is only of the visive type. The provision on the Apollo capsule were indeed unhygienic if not unbearable. NOTE. The perfect, luxury toilet for Space tourism in zero-gravity, of which I read about in SF stories, was a complete toilet/bathroom which, once the door was closed, begun to rotate along the plane perpendicular with the toilet bowl (and the sink and the bathtub), so the centrifugal force mimicked a gravity field that made all hygienic appliances work - as expected them to work on Earth. The entire bathroom, installed inside a centrifuge inside the spaceship... not a bad idea, I shall say. Thank you for the video!
mV^2/r rotating things don't give you a g force as easily as depicted in sci-fi, especially if your rotation radius is small. Rotating something as small as a toilet cabin to even get 0.1G would require many thousands RPM rotation speeds. And won't feel like gravity, definitely won't be comfortable.
Arrived, the entire volume of the Dragon is one large toilet stall! Brilliant! Very impressive, progress is evident, so much time has passed not in vain! Do you smell what?
Fun fact: The Apollo method was disliked so much by the astronauts, that for the space shuttle, a toilet that was broken called for a mission scrub and return. This almost happened on STS-33 when astronaut Fred Gregory went to use the toilet at "night", the vacuum went opened but the slider valve did not close. The air was being sucked out, luckily Gregory's bottom was also present. For a brief amount of time, Fred Gregory's butt was being sucked. After everything had been sorted out, they realized that the toilet was out-of-order and they may have to use Apollo bags. Mind you, STS-33 was a classified mission so a scrub would not make the Air Force (I think) happy. Fortunately, Mission Control was able to send makeshift repair instructions, so there was no need for both a scrub and the dreaded Apollo bags. I believe Scott Manely did a video on this, but here's an article for reference: gizmodo.com/is-a-broken-toilet-in-space-the-worst-thanksgiving-ever-1744841910
I guess you never flew on a C130 :). They had a "Honey Pot" a barrel with a plastic bag in it which a toilet seat on it, and it had a cheap plastic curtain that you could pull for "privacy" 😀. If you were crew or a small contingent flying with the plane it was your job to empty it when you were done. They did have a small urinal with a cover that drained outside the plane. I believe all the Air Force planes now are C-130 H or C-130 J's and they all now have chemical porta potties. They still have that cheap plastic shower curtain that goes around it though. 😀
I think the one thing that would make the airplane more bearable is the loud drone of the engines to drown out any noise you're making. At least then you can close your eyes and try to pretend you're alone. Not to mention that gravity would lessen the risk of mishaps that might get the rest of the crew involved.
In the diagram of the capsule there’s a part labeled “Emergency Ventilation Fan.” I’m pretty sure me dropping a deuce in there would constitute an emergency for the rest of the crew
When I went to basic training in the Army, In the barracks There wasn't a single wall anywhere in the bathrooms. 6 toilets lined up on one wall and 6 urinals on the facing wall. It sure quickly breaks down any modesty problems when you can say high to your friends doing their thing too while you do yours. I'm sure that was the intent.
Thanks. I mostly think the space toilet question has been done to death, and I did know of the toilet's location and the waste system diagram. But I've been very curious as to how the curtain is deployed. Thanks for the pic.
Seriously a space toilet type for RV’s camping in a traveling car would be a great upgrade for what we have now . Basically a shop vacuum with bidet-button sprayer goes in a bag . Then could be deposited at local potty dump sites . Also in home bathroom get the 1-1/2 gallon flush to 1 quart of water .
There has to be a more efficient and convenient way to take care of business in this environment. NASA and SpaceX should collaborate with Toto Japan to figure it out. They are leaders in automated hygienic toilet systems used by more than 50 million around the world.
"Comfortable using it?" Considering the "uncomfortable" aspect of not using a space toilet when you need to, I guess that's not an issue. This crew has trained together and become a very close team. As a 'virtual family' I doubt any of them suffered much embarrassment over something all of them needed to do.
You ever wonder how they get rid of the poo? If they don't know how...They should really just flush it out into outer space 🚽 💩💩💩💩 and let the 👽 aliens smell it
In some of the older design barracks in the military (often delegated to visiting reserve or guard units you would have 3 toilets without walls on the west side, two toilets without walls facing them on the East wall, a giant window on the north wall a three man per sink on the south wall and an open doorway on the east wall all the way down in the south corner ... this led into the sink and mirror room to the east, which had an a door in its south wall which led into a hallway with the man exit entrance to the build to the east. What this mean is that you can stand outside and clearly see all three men urinating the back of one of the men on the east wall and at least three of the men sitting along the west wall. This also meant every time someone stood up, their bare ass was clear visible to those sitting on either side of them and his kibble and bit were very close to the man in front of him...... and we worry about privacy in SPACE
i think this is still a bit far away from the movies 2001, or star trek. An idea is to have a box (like underware or knickers) for each people, that kind of box has water to wash and clean all the necessites, and a tube to connect that toilet machine we see in the video. So when someone needs to pee, or ect, he/she puts that box (of course if needed he can take of his chothes) and take a a pee inside that box, it is more private i think. When it finishes, that box can wash and dry the water into that toilet tube, to dry the body of the people. Then he takes off that (toilet) box without any water or dirty.
They get so much training long before they go to launch. They probably don’t think about the privacy as much although it’s good they have a curtain. Keeping their body in top notch condition is part of the job. Eating, going to the bathroom, sleeping, and hygiene are all part of all the tasks they did as well as the thousands of experiments they do in space and other work on space station. They probably get lots training on earth. They also learn lots of new things while up there. Over the years NASA, SpaceX and all the other companies have learned new things in how to make things better, more efficient and less costly. Look at early space food and see where it is now.
What most people don't know: Space Potty training is one of the most important parts of astronaut training and is recreated on Earth in a deep swimming pool.
Remembering my time at the Bundeswehr, the German Army: Once per week is enough for shy people. But being married and driving an EV - our battery is bigger than our bladders are. 2 hours can be a long time, a very long time. Fighter jets do have toilets for fluid matters built into their seats and we are thinking of adapting this for our car, a Mitsubishi i-MiEV.
I could’ve gone without hearing that last part before the whole thing ended Ross just sick OK that’s all now I’m not sure if I can eat my midnight snack
These men and women are all professionals, most of them have children and families, some have a military background. The bathroom on their ride to space is the least of their concerns when you get to spend 6 months doing science and living on the space station.
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I think it's the "dealbreaker" word that's missing in the entire "would you like to go into space?" debate. If people did consider it, well, I think many of us wouldn't like to go :)
the idea of engineers is that astronauts create toilet(s) during flight, where necessary / convenient... idea itself comes from world of animals (pigs, monkeys) - and we can witness amazing ways how discoveries of nature are incorporated into most sophisticated pieces of equipment
I know they have a "waste disposal system" on Dragon but I think many people ask because it seems like a really small capsule and wondering if astronauts have to do their business in front of other crew members or is there some privacy
We need to know what it smells like after someone has defecated. If the system has a way of flushing to smell out instantly or do others have to put up with the smell until it clears.
I can't imagine 4 people paying to go up in space for 2 days and having to use the Crew Dragon toilet where everyone can hear and smell you and you're right in front of everyone separated by a curtain. I couldn't do it. But 4 civilians are going to pay a lot of money to do just that and not even go to the space station.
No disrepect to Yuri Gagarin... I meant Al Shepard was the first **US** man in space, since we're talking about US bathroom problems.
Would you be comfortable with a space toilet or kneading your fecal matter? UGH! 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
More comfortable than not using it, if you know what I mean. When you gotta go, you gotta go! 😁
lol very true!
Well, when you have changed as many diapers as I have, it doesnt seem so bad after all. At least its your own "brand".
No one's asking the _real_ question: were they able to find toilet paper?
I was wondering this for weeks about crew dragon shitter situation
I'm a truck driver. I've had to use some pretty shady facilities. Id have no problem using the SpaceX toilet
I have used latrines at Boy Scout summer camp (until the BSA National Office and state health departments mandated the use of campsite flush toilets in the long-term camps; High Adventure bases such as Philmont are exempt), a chemical toilet (with a "slopping out" bucket) at the family cabin, and even "brown capped" in the woods. So using the SpaceX, Boeing Starliner, Soyuz, or ISS toilet systems would not bother me.
God I remember having to use one while at a plant down in Texas. That my friend was not a fun drop
When I was a trucker I used a portable camping toilet with a working manual pump flush. I’d empty the waste in truck stop toilets. It was a godsend when I was stuck at shippers and receivers with no restrooms.
I feel you. As a kayaker, after spending 3.5 hours in 0.5 m waves, somehow you are not that picky when you see land :)
What about those thousands of pee bottles tossed out on the side of the road! Gross!
Dude, if you need to go, you need to go. If the rest of the crew gets scared, just tell them to wait outside while you finish 🤭
Ohhh nooo.....
@@defendmoon6813 provided that you don't get sick and have stuff come out of both ends at the same time like what happened to Frank Borman on Apollo 8.
@@rwboa22 that incident proved that NASA didn’t have an effective plan for every simultaneous malfunction! Lol
The toilet is conveniently located between the top hatch and the front hatch, so if you need to air the place out, just open the doors.
Your not a pirate under the sea...
I was wondering where SpaceX put the toilet... And NO, I wouldn't be at all comfortable using a space toilet with only a curtain for privacy. Thanks for this week's Two Minute Tuesday!!!
Imagine (or don’t) the noises related to activity so a curtain won’t stop the noise or smells but I know they are trained to be good adults as all of them will do it.
Feel bad for Shannon already
All is OK they had an outside toilet.
I would try because it's my only try in live!
I bet they avoid having to poop at all costs. It would be extremely awkward even if you are behind a curtain (noises, smell)
Their food is meant to be part of a "low residue" diet, thus reducing the need to go No. 2. Flight surgeons are always hounding on the astronauts to drink plenty of water, and that is due to the prevention of urinary tract and kidney infections that affected astronaut Fred Haise during the return phase of Apollo 13 (which was beyond his control due to the need of rationing the water in the LM).
@@rwboa22 very interesting, did not know that
@@FB0102 it's been well-documented. U-2 pilots would do the same before flying their flights (as they have to wear pressure suits due to the altitude and unpressurized cabin) and NASA has done the same with Mercury, Gemini, Apollo (including Skylab and ASTP), and Shuttle. Out of all of them, only the Apollo missions had "fecal containment systems" (a pair of tight-fitting shorts similar to athletic compression shorts) but that was meant to only be used when necessary (and only when REALLY necessary), thus the low-residue diets the prime and backup crews ate many days in advance to the launch.
I try not to poop in public. I wouldn't be able to poop in space. I would be backed up.
I heard they get enimas before the trip.
1:13 Apollo 10 had 1 or 2 floating turds that escaped those bags. No one owned up to whose they were lol.
I thought about including that in the video, but decided against it. Crazy & gross either way. 🤢🤣
There was also a shuttle mission that was almost recalled early because of toilet failure and serious risk of having to resort to Apollo era bags as backup.
@@mancubwwa it was STS-3 that had the toilet malfunction and the crew, Jack Lousma (Skylab 3 veteran) and Gordon Fullerton (of the Group 7 of MOL astronauts) had to use the Apollo bags. There was also an incident on the classified DoD STS-33 where presumably (according to Scott Manley in his video) Commander Frederick Gregory almost depressurized the Shuttle cabin when he was "squeezing his 'Captain's Log' out"; the vacuum system actually malfunctioned, causing the cabin leak.
Must’ve been John Young. Heck he was going on about his potassium farts on the moon with Charlie Duke on Apollo 16
@@rwboa22 well, official nasa document lists "Cabin leak through WCS" as significant anomaly on STS-33, so this gives credence to Scott's version of events.
Putting it right in front was an interesting choice. Since the crew undoubtedly spends most of their time in their seats, using the toilet makes sure that you will have an audience. I'm a little surprised that they didn't put it behind the seats.
I cant piss when people are behind me on earth I couldn’t imagine in space
I'm a truck driver. I've had to use some pretty shady facilities. Id have no problem using the SpaceX toilet
Crew have free movement throughout the capsule. couldn't they just look away or float into the cargo section for a while?
When you are in space, everything is a luxury. Better than dying on shit.
@@elliotzhang2358 I believe Dragon has one big place for everything: crew and cargo. That's why if they load 7 crew members they cannot take cargo.
I also.I cound' imagine if woman inside space x !!!!!!!!😊
(Gross) fun fact: On one Apollo mission there was a toilet malfunction. So they had a "floater". Yes, fecal matter floating in the cabin, so they had to catch it, get the lid fixed and make sure it didn't happen again, the audio logs are pretty funny to read.
Link to the LOGS ?
@@JosepGee TH-cam keeps deleting the link, but it was in Apollo 10, day 6. There is a pdf with the full log. I think it's at 5 13 something.
What toilet malfunction are you talking about? There was no toilet of any kind on any of Apollo missions.
Or maybe fecal matter leaving plastic bag is more an user malfunction, than bag itself...
// I guess you're talking about Apollo 8 and Frank Borman issues (puking and shitting same time).
@@override7486 As I said in my other post, it was on Apollo 10. And there was a toilett, although it was more like a lavatory, and yes, plastic bags were used. I think the lid of the container didn't close, so some poop escaped, floated through the capsule and needed to be caught and sealed away.
Search for Apollo 10 and poop to see about the story.
@@Sk4lli I have no idea what you're talking about, and it looks like nor do You really. A toilet in Command Module? A lavatory?? With 3 people stuck in such a tiny space, even some cubicle container for waste, not bigger than size of your butt sounds like a dream.
In fact, they just used "regular" plastic bags with opening and they just stick it to the ass and try to squeeze your load of fecal matter into it, without loosing or spillage, which is not very difficult due to microG. When finished, they sealed the bag and knead content to mix it by hand with some antibacterial stuff... I don't know where you got this toilet news from, but googling doesn't bring any results whatsoever. Just stories about poop floating in CM, but this is heard in original audio loop from the mission and the crew...
Two thoughts here, 1, few of the commenters seem to have experienced the joys of post serious surgery stays in hospital - there's virtually no privacy there. And 2, in weightless conditions there is no gravity to help the poop separate from your rear end - each one has to be "helped" to detach.
Now I understand what the finger hole was for......
Still much better than what I had to use while in the military sometimes...
Oh? Do tell!
@@VideoManDan Wag bags, I don't know if that's the correct spelling but I used them before whilst in training deployment. The worse though is finding a place to take dump in the middle of nowhere! Lol
@@Devinci297 Wouldn't it have been easier to just dig a hole in the soil/sand and do things like our ancient ancestors used to do it? Carrying around a waste bag seems a bit pointless.
@@VideoManDan We're not technically allowed to do that because of "environmental" protection reasons
"It's the number one question"
😈 *Or is it number two??* 😈
both
As far as I understand, nuber two question can generally wait untill docking with ISS.
@@mancubwwa If you can keep your dock sealed for 27 hours, no problem. Absolutely doable, but can you promise that, especially after learning that astronauts report that physiology is confused by drastic change in conditions - obviously lack of gravity is not often experienced - and can behave unpredictably.
Lolll
I didn't get it
I think folks are curious, partly because this spacecraft is so small (compared to the ISS and Shuttle). I just wondered where they would put it. Thanks!
Well, Russians squeezed one on Soyuz which is even smaller, so I was pretty certain that SpaceX also managed to do it. But I was still curious.
@@mancubwwa Soyuz has 3 modules and 2 are accessible for the crew on start (the third one is just equipment). If I remember correctly from one of "tour over ISS" videos the toilet equipment (very robust and far from comfort) is in the section that attaches to ISS, while the descending module (the one with seats used during launch and landing) is the next one. So as strange as might seem, for sake of privacy at least, Soyuz actually might have its advantages. While Dragon is in principle one big common room for everything (plus cargo trunk that is not hermetic, therefore is not accessible for crew).
@@adammarkiewicz3375 yes, but total space inside is still less than crew dragon with both modules. The descent module is downright claustrophobic especially with crew of three.
@@mancubwwa Of course you're right, I'm not counting everything together. I'm only stating that in context of having privacy, two claustrophobic small rooms have more oportunities than single bigger one - still with more people on board.
Can you imagine on the ISS if 7 astronauts all had a serious explosive stomach bug at the same time.
All astronauts and NASA/Roscosmos/ESA/JAXA staff involved in a launch spend weeks in quarantine in the same building, before a launch, to avoid exactly that. They spend more than the standard viral incubation period of 14 days quarantined, no physical contact with outsiders, masks and PPE worn around each other; and this has dated back to the Mercury missions.
One guy on an Apollo mission was hit by severe diarrhoea and vomiting associated with his body not coping with the change between earth and space, rather than a virus (and no other crew got sick) but it would not have been easy for him at all.
@@KatiB5587 ...neither for the rest of the crew. It's terribly hard to open windows in space, just not to dive too deeply into the details.
@@adammarkiewicz3375 you're not wrong. The others would probably have felt more helpless than grossed out though. They put their bodies through a lot in training, they're scientists, they know what might happen. But how the hell does one provide comfort to someone so sick in space? As you said, can't open windows to let some fresh air in.
@@KatiB5587 Training of being in stink for several days continously without a break? Hmmm... On the other hand - why not? When this should be checked if not still on Earth before launch? Although I imagine this to be survivable, I bet it is still far from enjoyable, even fore someone with training.
Correction : 11 astronauts !!
and thats the reason why I never wanted to be an astronaut ... strange things ... strange things ... :-)
Is that a Space Shuttle emoji?
How
@@AutisticSpaceman You get this if you become a member of this channel
One happy human being with deams coming true in real life. Didn't want to be - haven't become one. That's simply luck! ;-)
One of the more candid books about the Apollo program (sorry, can't remember its name) told the story of the recovery at sea of the command module for one of the missions. When the first frogman opened the hatch of what the author called a "flying toilet," he was bowled over by the odor back into the ocean. A little detail NASA never publicized.
The bravest man on each Apollo mission were the frogmen who opened the hatches...
When we get our next Australian astronaut, are they going to say Bidet, mate?
well its on the ceiling so australians will find it oky to use
Get out! 🤣🤣🤣
(South east Aus, me. Was a huge fangirl of Andy Thomas when he was on Mir during my childhood, because my school humble bragged about our homegrown astronaut. I hope we have another astronaut from our shores during my lifetime. As terrible as your joke is, I'd be disappointed if it doesn't get used when showing a new Aussie the latrine)
Boooo
"That might be a deal-breaker for me..." Well said.
Thank you! Finally somebody who answers my questions! 😂👍🏽
Technology moves as fast as I go to the store for beer.
and the rate is only increasing
I have seen this your comment at least ten times right now. Can't you think of something else?
there was a story of a man who went to the store for a beer and disappeared for 15 years
finally someone talk about it , thanks
Well, I’m glad that came out ok. Hope they remembered to fill in the log book. 😁
EDIT: plus I'd just like to say you are my Number One or Number Two favorite TH-cam channel 😁
Can't be nearly as awkward as using a C-130's toilet. It does have a curtain, but right on the other side would be up to 63 other Soldiers and the plane's crew. Plus, at the end of the flight, the last person to use it, has to empty it out.
Fun fact: The first 1-3 days, the crew members are usually experiencing a degree of constipation as peristalsis slows down in micro gravity then around day 3-4 there will be a more “explosive” bowel movement
when you gotta go... you gotta go...
I could imagine the astronauts on the two crew Dragon fights saying can we go faster to get to the space station so we can use the better toilet with more privacy.
In addition to proper functionality, a good toilet (in space or otherwise) do require three different types of privacy:
1. Visive privacy;
You don't want anybody else watching you in the act, be first or second.
2. Acoustic privacy;
You don't want anybody else listening at the noises produced during any of the two possible acts.
3. Odour privacy;
You don't want anybody to smell the odours produced, especially from act two.
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Any toilet (in space or otherwise) which doesn't allow simultaneously for the three types of shielding mentioned above, is considered uncomfortable. In the limited habitation room of a Space Capsule, it is understandable that privacy is only of the visive type. The provision on the Apollo capsule were indeed unhygienic if not unbearable.
NOTE.
The perfect, luxury toilet for Space tourism in zero-gravity, of which I read about in SF stories, was a complete toilet/bathroom which, once the door was closed, begun to rotate along the plane perpendicular with the toilet bowl (and the sink and the bathtub), so the centrifugal force mimicked a gravity field that made all hygienic appliances work - as expected them to work on Earth. The entire bathroom, installed inside a centrifuge inside the spaceship... not a bad idea, I shall say.
Thank you for the video!
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rotating things don't give you a g force as easily as depicted in sci-fi, especially if your rotation radius is small. Rotating something as small as a toilet cabin to even get 0.1G would require many thousands RPM rotation speeds. And won't feel like gravity, definitely won't be comfortable.
Arrived, the entire volume of the Dragon is one large toilet stall! Brilliant! Very impressive, progress is evident, so much time has passed not in vain! Do you smell what?
Imagine, you have to drop your pants in front of your crew and start peeing. I am sure I can't do it.
If I get to view earth from space, I am ready to get naked and dance in front of the crew😂
there will be a point of time where your urge for purge"" cannot be tolerated anymore, then you can do it for sure.
Fun fact: The Apollo method was disliked so much by the astronauts, that for the space shuttle, a toilet that was broken called for a mission scrub and return. This almost happened on STS-33 when astronaut Fred Gregory went to use the toilet at "night", the vacuum went opened but the slider valve did not close. The air was being sucked out, luckily Gregory's bottom was also present. For a brief amount of time, Fred Gregory's butt was being sucked. After everything had been sorted out, they realized that the toilet was out-of-order and they may have to use Apollo bags. Mind you, STS-33 was a classified mission so a scrub would not make the Air Force (I think) happy. Fortunately, Mission Control was able to send makeshift repair instructions, so there was no need for both a scrub and the dreaded Apollo bags.
I believe Scott Manely did a video on this, but here's an article for reference: gizmodo.com/is-a-broken-toilet-in-space-the-worst-thanksgiving-ever-1744841910
I guess you never flew on a C130 :). They had a "Honey Pot" a barrel with a plastic bag in it which a toilet seat on it, and it had a cheap plastic curtain that you could pull for "privacy" 😀. If you were crew or a small contingent flying with the plane it was your job to empty it when you were done.
They did have a small urinal with a cover that drained outside the plane.
I believe all the Air Force planes now are C-130 H or C-130 J's and they all now have chemical porta potties. They still have that cheap plastic shower curtain that goes around it though. 😀
Imagine being in something smaller where your only option is the double trashbag. Makes you appreciate the honeypot.
I think the one thing that would make the airplane more bearable is the loud drone of the engines to drown out any noise you're making. At least then you can close your eyes and try to pretend you're alone.
Not to mention that gravity would lessen the risk of mishaps that might get the rest of the crew involved.
In the diagram of the capsule there’s a part labeled “Emergency Ventilation Fan.” I’m pretty sure me dropping a deuce in there would constitute an emergency for the rest of the crew
When I went to basic training in the Army, In the barracks There wasn't a single wall anywhere in the bathrooms. 6 toilets lined up on one wall and 6 urinals on the facing wall. It sure quickly breaks down any modesty problems when you can say high to your friends doing their thing too while you do yours. I'm sure that was the intent.
Basically the roman public toilets idea. Gosh, the western militaries love the Romans, don't they?
The curtain was the only bit that surprised me. I figured the crew just knew each other pretty well by that point.
what if you were female? would you want to dump in front of a bunch of dudes!?
Thanks. I mostly think the space toilet question has been done to death, and I did know of the toilet's location and the waste system diagram. But I've been very curious as to how the curtain is deployed. Thanks for the pic.
still prefer Crew dragon over Souz?
I'm sure it smells wonderful in there too!
First thing i thought of, after the inspiration launch with the civilians
Thanks for answering my question !
Why do you think we have space walks? Space is like the out house for the crew dragon
If I was on the launch pad I would be shitting bricks not knowing what is going to happen next? 🤔🚀
I wish I wasn't eating my evening meal when watching this but I was caught like a rabbit in the headlights.
Dr Flush is the one and only pioneer of #1 and #2 in space.
Seriously a space toilet type for RV’s camping in a traveling car would be a great upgrade for what we have now . Basically a shop vacuum with bidet-button sprayer goes in a bag . Then could be deposited at local potty dump sites . Also in home bathroom get the 1-1/2 gallon flush to 1 quart of water .
There has to be a more efficient and convenient way to take care of business in this environment. NASA and SpaceX should collaborate with Toto Japan to figure it out. They are leaders in automated hygienic toilet systems used by more than 50 million around the world.
I’m beginning to realize why the crew of the dragon capsule refuses to show their home videos while in space
Hi. Can you tell us how the toilet works on the Soyuz ship? I know it's there for sure!
They are the same as on ISS - toilets on ISS are designed by russians. There are no other designs currently working in space. ]
"Comfortable using it?" Considering the "uncomfortable" aspect of not using a space toilet when you need to, I guess that's not an issue. This crew has trained together and become a very close team. As a 'virtual family' I doubt any of them suffered much embarrassment over something all of them needed to do.
Does the curtain block the noises? does it?
Advertising possibilities!
"He stopped at Subway before Blast Off!"
I'm not shure why, but this was super interesting xD Two thumbs up!
Firstly my ass was in a fire, but I saw pinned post ) and felt relief.
Intresting and entertaining video! I never thought of that before, so thank you!
Thanks for sharing. Yeah it’s a ‘deal breaker’ for some. I guess it’s about de-sensitising oneself. 😂
You ever wonder how they get rid of the poo? If they don't know how...They should really just flush it out into outer space 🚽 💩💩💩💩 and let the 👽 aliens smell it
When you gota go you will go..its natural...
Funny, cuz I researched this a couple days ago :)
Good to know as we all wondered.
In some of the older design barracks in the military (often delegated to visiting reserve or guard units you would have 3 toilets without walls on the west side, two toilets without walls facing them on the East wall, a giant window on the north wall a three man per sink on the south wall and an open doorway on the east wall all the way down in the south corner ... this led into the sink and mirror room to the east, which had an a door in its south wall which led into a hallway with the man exit entrance to the build to the east. What this mean is that you can stand outside and clearly see all three men urinating the back of one of the men on the east wall and at least three of the men sitting along the west wall. This also meant every time someone stood up, their bare ass was clear visible to those sitting on either side of them and his kibble and bit were very close to the man in front of him...... and we worry about privacy in SPACE
i think this is still a bit far away from the movies 2001, or star trek.
An idea is to have a box (like underware or knickers) for each people, that kind of box has water to wash and clean all the necessites, and a tube to connect that toilet machine we see in the video. So when someone needs to pee, or ect, he/she puts that box (of course if needed he can take of his chothes) and take a a pee inside that box, it is more private i think. When it finishes, that box can wash and dry the water into that toilet tube, to dry the body of the people. Then he takes off that (toilet) box without any water or dirty.
Hell yeah id use a space toilet! Going to space? I’m not letting that stop me
Three Minute Tuesday has the same alliteration (though a bit less rhymey) and is more accurate to the typical length that you run, heh.
No pictures of how the thing unfolds or is setup?
Do they also have shades in the windows for intimacy? :-j
1:02 First man in space? What? That was Yuri Gagarin I'm afraid.
Oops, Sorry, I meant first US man since we're talking about US bathroom problems.
i was wondering this about the Oceangate sub
They get so much training long before they go to launch. They probably don’t think about the privacy as much although it’s good they have a curtain. Keeping their body in top notch condition is part of the job. Eating, going to the bathroom, sleeping, and hygiene are all part of all the tasks they did as well as the thousands of experiments they do in space and other work on space station. They probably get lots training on earth. They also learn lots of new things while up there. Over the years NASA, SpaceX and all the other companies have learned new things in how to make things better, more efficient and less costly. Look at early space food and see where it is now.
How much water do they transport each time they go up?
For a chance to go to space.. Yes, i would use it. Would not be the most enjoyable or appealing part of the trip, but my god, that view.
I like having a cigarette after a number 2 hey... looks like I wont be a space cadet after all...lol
What most people don't know: Space Potty training is one of the most important parts of astronaut training and is recreated on Earth in a deep swimming pool.
I was wondering how they practiced that! But how did they experience each other's poop odor and associated poop sounds in close quarters?
Remembering my time at the Bundeswehr, the German Army: Once per week is enough for shy people. But being married and driving an EV - our battery is bigger than our bladders are. 2 hours can be a long time, a very long time. Fighter jets do have toilets for fluid matters built into their seats and we are thinking of adapting this for our car, a Mitsubishi i-MiEV.
I love that SpaceX put a tiny poop sticker on the toilet.
Imagine spending 50 million dollar and they giving public toilet.
This subject was seen in the Kubrick movie "2001, a Space Odissey", a toilet door with a full page of explanations on it
Fantastic video Thanks 👍
Tens of thousands of views suggests that a lot of us need to know this sort of information!
Incorporate the toilet with the Captains chair... double duty 😂😂
I want to know how they use the restroom not if there is a toilet. Please explain.
I could’ve gone without hearing that last part before the whole thing ended Ross just sick OK that’s all now I’m not sure if I can eat my midnight snack
While this is...humm, necessary; the info/format has potential. Subscribed
These men and women are all professionals, most of them have children and families, some have a military background. The bathroom on their ride to space is the least of their concerns when you get to spend 6 months doing science and living on the space station.
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GREAT video -- thank you !
Whenever I hear the subject of the "space toilet" , I am reminded of the "toilet scene" in 2001.
I wonder if the Boeing toilet will work the first few times or will there have to be a few software revisions for it to suck.
Perhaps this shows my age, but toilet is one of the first things to coma to my mind.
I think it's the "dealbreaker" word that's missing in the entire "would you like to go into space?" debate. If people did consider it, well, I think many of us wouldn't like to go :)
Reminds me of Star Trek Enterprise when 'Trip' says "a Poop question?"
the idea of engineers is that astronauts create toilet(s) during flight, where necessary / convenient... idea itself comes from world of animals (pigs, monkeys) - and we can witness amazing ways how discoveries of nature are incorporated into most sophisticated pieces of equipment
I know they have a "waste disposal system" on Dragon but I think many people ask because it seems like a really small capsule and wondering if astronauts have to do their business in front of other crew members or is there some privacy
im gonna poop in my bread making machine to practice being a astronaut
I bet your bread tastes like shit
Should take a look at US Skylab toilet. That one you had to look twice before using.
"Emergency Ventilation Fan"
We need to know what it smells like after someone has defecated. If the system has a way of flushing to smell out instantly or do others have to put up with the smell until it clears.
No problem 😌! If I have to go, I go…even in micro space 🤪🤣
What about the paper work at the end of the number two job?
Thanks for answering that question. Hopefully the vacuum thing sucks the smell in to. Everyone , put your oxygen masks on!
I can't imagine 4 people paying to go up in space for 2 days and having to use the Crew Dragon toilet where everyone can hear and smell you and you're right in front of everyone separated by a curtain. I couldn't do it. But 4 civilians are going to pay a lot of money to do just that and not even go to the space station.
Oh guys... Would you please give me more privacy?
AN EVA - during my...