Thank you so much for doing this. I do manual labor and have no academic network to speak of, people like you who put the effort in to make series like this have made my education possible. It means so much!
@@jdizzle708 Hi Joyce! It's been a ton of work and, unfortunately, I've really soured on academia although my knowledge of the subject matter has increased significantly. There's not really the time or interest on my part to justify this with specifics, but it was particularly disillusioning to gain an in depth knowledge of Marx and see that some of the more respected "Marxists" in academia essentially just WRONG. Just as two easy examples, Eagleton wrote a book saying something as asinine as "there's no private property in market socialism" where the "system" he's dreaming up explicitly contains commodity production and exchange. Similarly, Harvey misunderstood Capital so badly as to think money that cannot be hoarded is a solution to anything Marx wrote about -- and yet his companion is one of the most commonly recommended pieces of secondary literature. More and more what I read, particularly true for political philosophy, is irrelevant, detached from reality, and implicitly defends the current state of affairs by taking it for granted. TH-cam comments aren't the best time to give a real argument, so take this as a general summary of position and nothing more. Regardless, I have continued to learn a lot but would also retract the strength of my previous comment -- nobody needs youtube or secondary sources to learn, although they can be helpful.
@@vielbosheit yea... a lot of my friends I went to college with tended to sour on philosophy at the end of getting our degree. Only one of us went on to study philosophy more, the rest of us, including myself, went on to something else. The main reason for this was exactly your point, so many of them seemed divorced from reality, and when you take a step back, you realize that there's a reason for this. When you write a book, you need opportunity (which means time, ability, and both of these means you have money), and to write a philosophy and have it become popular, means you're also a professor. If you know anything about professors, they're extremely divorced from reality, believing that anyone can just get a job like theirs, which (nowadays) is just not true. Even my favorite philosopher, Nietzsche, was a professor at age 20 something. This means he had a type of security that I would never know, and had the network available to him to get his book out. These are the things we never really consider when we read something, study something, etc... I went on to get an MFA in poetry, and my experience with that soured me to writing poetry too. The lies we are told are never reckoned with because we like the idea of hope. The idea that people can do anything and succeed, when in fact, succeeding in a commercial like fashion requires so much you have no control over. Good luck out there.
Holy heck this is exactly how I got into philosophy, tried to read one book and just kept following all the authors and books referenced. Year in and I'm reading academic papers and have a shelf filled with books and secondary sources and guides.
It’s a conspiracy of booksellers. It’s never tied together, just a never ending thread or fabric of ideas. In the end you open a used bookstore.....and the cycle continues...
This is fantastic. The Bourdieu reference at the beginning would have saved me a lot of anguish during my studies and should be standard first year reading. Your assessment also counters, very well, a lot of the dismissive commentaries I've come across. Many thanks!
What work of Bourdieu are you guys talking about? Can't seem to find it... Very curious to read that, I'm doing my grad but what you said is oh so very recognisable.
Dave - thank you so much for this video series. I'm an undergrad right now at an ivy league university and came from a pretty shitty public high school in Arizona. I first encountered Deleuze freshman year in an intro to film studies course and have come across him throughout my academic time in varying capacities - either by mentions during class or conversations with friends who seemed to have been extremely affected by his and guattaris work. but it always seemed extremely inaccessible to me. so, as a desperate student, i just want to thank you for your kind and generous teaching style in this video. its been the first time that in the presence of deleuze's work i dont feel pressured to catch up to my peers or to the references deleuze makes, but allowed to just meander through deleuze and be challenged by his ideas, not to prove how much i understand, but to be challenged to think more critically, to learn for the pleasure of learning. thank you!
The way Deleuze writes sounds like he wants people to go on an intellectual Dérive, highly inaccessible to most people. Thank you for making this series because I think a lot of the ideas are valuable. I'm excited to learn more!
I am one of those PhD students struggling to get a handle on this theory that I feel pressured to implement into my own work. Your encouraging to take a calm, methodical approach to the work is revelatory. A breath of fresh air in a series of weeks in a seminar in a series of semesters that pushes us to somehow pretend we have really understoodd these incredible minds in the first panicked run-through. Thank you for your effort and I really enjoy your mode of presentation. Now I want to go walk around the hills of Devon.
Your series on Deleuze is fantastic!!!! Such a great help for a student meeting Deleuzian concepts for the first time with no understanding whatsoever.
This is a beautifully refreshing, unpretentious, patient introduction to concepts I have longed to learn more about. Thank you for taking the time to spell things out.
Thank you so so so so so so much for having done this! Some of the academics I admire most are Deleuzians and I feel that it's important that I try to get to understand these ideas. You're a lifesaver. I would buy you a beer. 1,000,000 thanks!
This is a fantastic series, thank you very much, Sir! Foucault said that the 21st century will be a Deleuzian century - very timely work. Hope more people find your channel. :-)
Thanks Bianka Banova. Foucault's remarks came in a review he did of two early Deleuze books, before ATP, and , as you might know, Deleuze said he thought Foiucault was probably joking!
I totally stumbled upon Deleuze after my love affair with Nietzsche. I don't even know what he's talking about 90% of the time, but it's amazing. These breadcrumbs are so nourishing. I'm no philosophy student or philosopher (yet), so I've been reading leisurely. It's like the text forces you to have to rethink the way you think about thinking. I apologize for sounding like gobbledygook, but I really think that's an apt description of what I've been experiencing. I agree wholeheartedly with taking your time. I've been reading leisurely for about 5 months. Thanks so much for this though. I like playing it in the background while I work. These videos are really a great key into D's work precisely because you did take your time. Sidenote: You mentioned Proust. I was Proust the year before and couldn't get through it but was equally amazed.
Nietzsche doesn't have nothing to do with Deleuze, disciples of Nietzsche are Spengler, Heidegger, Junger, Evola, Benn and the other members of the *Konservative Revolution* , like explained well the philosopher *Giorgio Locchi* in his book on Wagner and Nietzsche, since they share the same new concept of temporality and of aristocracy. The 'Authentic Temporality' of Heidegger its the same conception of time that Nietzsche and Wagner had. Deleuze on the contrary its a mere exponent of the 1960's, in nietzschean terms an 'artistoid' and an exponent of 'Slave Morality'. The only interesting element in its philosophy its aestethics.
Wow! I've been waiting for something like this for a very long time. I studied Deleuze in my undergrad, I found him very hard to penetrate but the eureka moments were enough to make me know I want to study him deeply in the future. After watching this first video I am very hopefully that I won't have to delay my researching him for another 10 years (where I'd hopefully have the time!) but can get stuck into him now. Thank you very very much. Keep up the good work!
Dave: Thank you so kindly! I am that very post graduate student you mention--trying to finish my dissertation this year and despite having a Masters in Cultural Studies and Critical Theory, I'm feeling increasingly unintelligent when it comes to certain theoretical approaches. I'm quite a Derrida fan and enjoy reading his work slowly (sort of like poetry) but there's only a handful of scholars I feel that way about. I've so far only read D&G's _Kafka: Toward a Minor Literature_. I HATED it, as I hate certain other theorists too, but my current work seems to require an understanding of the Bodies Without Organs concept and perhaps other concepts from this guy. Sadness. Though it's not all Deleuze that has made me feel this way, I have indeed felt like this project might be too much for me--Thank you for saying that this feeling is no uncommon and thanks for talking about smart things in an accessible way, as all instructors should!
Keep going Valerie! The video on the BwO is mostly about the stuff in Thou Plats,although the term does appear in the work on Proust and on Kafka as you say, more as a kind of machinism in the writing. Best book in my view is Bogue, R. (2003) Deleuze on Literature. London: Routledge.
Thanks Dave. I was bought a copy of A Thousand Plateaus about 12 years ago and have attempted approximately once every 3 years to read it before giving up after a few hours and putting it back into storage. This time I am going equipped!
You're right about the giants.Deleuze (and lots of others) are way out there. But we can still get something out of them don't you think? By the way, what's a 'potato kid'? Someone from Idaho?
@Nicole Storey when germans self-consiously refer to their national identity as rooted in a antipluralist ideology, they call themselves potatoes. sorry for this perversion.
Dear Dave, What a refreshing take on academia in general. Deleuze is often cited in film studies (my field) in the most obtuse and incomprehensible ways. I don't know if you plan on doing a video or more on Cinema 1 & 2, specifcally the time-image, but you'll get lots of hits from film students if you do! :) I wish I had you as a professor in our department. My profs never slow down to explain any type of jargon unless its for undergraduates, assuming us graduates at the PhD level must have been steeped in all this intellectual geneology. It drives me batty; I always get lost; looking up the jargon later, I realize how simple the concepts really are; why not just use plain english to describe the same thing so that everyone can be on the same page... and the name-dropping point is so true... infuriating.
+Isabelle Carbonell Thanks for the kind words. I am about to upload the next video -- on the body-without-organs. The best book on Deleuze on cinema is Bogue's Deleuze on Cinema, in my view. It is tough going but you can read selectively at first. I have some notes on this book andon other Deleuzian bits on my website -- see www.arasite.org/deleuzep.html. Good luck with it.
Hi Isabelle. I have done a video now on the movement-image.I am wracking my brains to find out how to talk about the time-image in 35 minutes, but if I saty sane, that will be next.
Yes --it is counter to all the usual advice about 'effective teaching',but most 'educational video' is really dull. Is there a link to your stuff you could share?
This is so helpful! Wish I’d had this kind of contextual framework when I was reading A Thousand Plateaus and Anti-Oedipus in grad school 25+ years ago! Still, their work, or at least elements of helped form valuable frameworks for my studies and thinking I continue to reflect on today. Cheers, and many thanks!
This is a lovely work. An original, confident, thorough and democratic approach to the works discussed. The content and format work perfectly. Inspiring for all of us -- I'm finishing my phD now and works in the private sector, which leaves me with no time at all to read and study what I most want. I may now know a bit of what I want to do when I do have the time. 😉 I am more than certain that while people linger on years to publish books in paper, the forerunners are doing works like this. These are the words that will live on. Congratulations!
Many thanks Sergio L Tavares Filho. Very encouraging and supportive remarks. I fully sympathise with people who have demanding jobs but who want to read challenging material. I hope you do get a chance to ,ake your own videos. Best wishes. Dave
Thank you very much for this! I really need help in navigating Deleuze! More power to you! Also...nice tour of Devon. I love your tongue-in-cheek presentation.:))
Thank you so much, Dave. I never comment on TH-cam videos, but this time I'll make an exception because your material is amazing. I'm a Mexican grad student on a very demanding Critical Theory program and these videos are a wonderful aid. Cheers!
AO is tricky. Very self-refererntial. I struggled with it myself, but it was the first one I read. I have some rather scathing notes on it on my website: www.arasite.org/antioedipus.html Most of the videos refer to Thousand Plateaus which came afterwards. Very best of luck with it.
Dear Dave-- I'm enjoying the Deleuze videos very much, especially your gentle tactic of having us look at peaceful scenery as we walk about. I'm the lone theory monster in my department (English), and I teach our required undergraduate course in literary theory. If I may, I would very much like to show parts of the videos in class when the course next runs. It'll be a major aid to my students. And truthfully, ambling about Devon's green and pleasant land in your learned company and listening to the discourse, I was nudged into a couple of productive new directions myself.
Thanks for the encouragement. Please feel free to use them however you wish. I am constructing another one at the moment and will beposting in due course. Best wishes
It is a puzzle. My preferred interpretation is found in Delanda (Intensive Science...) ch. 3. First it means we don't add a dimension to understand a multiplicity as in transcendental analysis. Next we deploy a technique DeLanda calls 'slicing' which involves a simplification, a reduction of dimensionality. It refers to developing new kinds of geometry to simplify shapes and operations on them -- moving from normal, Euclidian geometry to topology, for example. I am no mathematician and I had to read that bit several times. Try it for yourself?
Thank you Lewis Watt. I've had a break to write a book but that is done now. I don't know if the UK police would see making a video as an acceptable reason to break lockdown and wander round the countryside though!
This is all true and very helpful, but I feel a clarification about their style is in order; it’s academic in a sense, but only because it’s the exact opposite of academic writing. They take all the usual rules of academic writing and break them so consistently and systematically that only somebody who knows those rules will be able to recognise what they’re doing, because they’re writing a book for academics that tries to escape the limitations of academia.
You are right to insist that there is a useful philosophical core to their work. I think you see that best in almost anything other than Thousand Plateaus (although Anti-Oedipus is pretty flashy). There are also lots of implicit references and allusions to French culture -- not least to Proust, but also to most of the others Deleuze has commented upon, like Bergson -- that can deeply puzzle the newbie. I do wonder what on earth new readers must make of the admiration for Castenada too, or the context of 60s student radicalism. So it is not a complete break with French academic discourse and the trick is to get at the core while coping with the hat-doffing and impression management. They admire writers who do indeed break consistently with conventions -- the avant-garde -- but there is a great variability in their own styles, even Gattari, who is mostly pretty clear but has a tendency to head to obsessive classification as in the dreadul Schizophrenic Cartographies. Good luck with your own reading.
I assume you mean Thousand Plateaus? Did they say how it was supposed to fit in exactly, AnonymousCaveman, or what exactly you were supposed to get out of it? Just that book itself is massive! You might try the notes on the book on my website -- but they are quite lengthy themselves. Does the course have any other philosophy? D&G like Artaud, but I can't see much other obvious connection with Acting. Seems pretty inexplicable and mildly sadistic...
I sympathise AlemanJuan. Academic arugment can be such a challenge to your identity. That's why you need to feel you can impose your own priorities on it. That requires a bit of initial confidence too, of course, but that grows as you get better.
@@DaveHarrisreDeleuze totally, i appreciate people who excavate the ideas and tell them to me. i haven't cultivated the patience or discipline for that yet but i enjoy listening to you. thanks for the response!
You have a very steady and elegant way of voicing things. The way you've stressed "is" and then paused, around the 11:37 mark, hit me with a wonderful moment of deja connue. After a few seconds of unconscious recollecting i've found the root of my familiarity with your manner of speech - it's remarkably similar to that of actor Terrence Stamp. Voices have a great impact on how we receive the information uttered by them, some are able provide a subtle favorable feeling akin to the way the sting of a mosquito also provides the anesthetic to give it a favorable reception. Here's a 20 minute fragment of a book narrated by him - urbangurucafe.com/2010/03/14/75-david-carse-perfect-brilliant-stillness/
Thanks -- very flattering, but the only things T Stamp and I have is that we are both from southern England and have similar accents.HIs is London and mine is from Portsmouth, some 70 miles away. I agree voices can have an impact, and Ilike Stamp. Thanks for the link
Do you think it's too late to start reading philosophy at 18? I haven't read much in the past but this video intrigued me and I want to start reading philosophical works, but I really don't have any experience in reading philosophy.
Thousand Plateaus and Anti-Oedipus are definitely not his worst books, I hate when people hate on his work with Guattari, Guatarri doesn't get enough credit
My own view is that Guattari is definitely as important as Deleuze, not least in contributing concepts like de/reterritorialization and transversality (both Massumi's and Dosse's commentaries list several others). I think ATP is their worst book because they tried to be celebrity academics offering immediate commentary on what was then popular culture, with very uneven results. I wish someone had edited the work to cut out repetitions (how many times do they cite the orchid and the wasp), massive generalizations (like the ones about French novels in Plateau 7 -- see video 12 on faciality), and throwaways to obscure material (like the book on Ethiopian magic scrolls -- Plateau 7 video12 again). True, Anti-Oedipus is nearly as bad. Lots of people say how productive their working relationship was -- but they also amplified each other's worse faults as well.
I agree. Anyone who tangles with the great people always feels like an imposter. It's far less stressful to stick with what you know in some sort of echo chamber.
Do you have a list of literary authors and filmmakers that you would suggest one to read and watch before reading Deleuze, in order to understand his references?
It would be a big list and a demanding read/watch -- Proust alone took me months ( and I am retired). Best thing maybe is to get a quick fix on whoever it is via Google and then see what you can do?
How do you feel about Žižek? I know he wrote a book on Deleuze, but I haven't read it. I plan on getting to it within the next few years. I'm very interested in Deleuze's relationship to Hegelianism, dialectical materialism, Marx, the Lacanian conception of "lack", etc. - would love to hear your thoughts.
I love the explication of your methodology. I don't think I've ever heard a book review that is so honest and personal. I'm curions, as it seems you like difficult books--have you read Finnegans Wake? Great work!
I like difficult books indeed, but Finnegans Wake defeated me, I fear, even A Burgess's guide. I don't know Dublin, for one thing, and the references to irish and Scandinavian mythology and literature went right over my head. I really liked Ulysses though
Nick Land offers a useful hint - “Deleuze and Guattari can appear to be taxingly difficult writers, although it is also true that they demand very little. Thinking immanence relentlessly suffices on its own to follow where it matters. At every point of blockage there is some belief to be scrapped, glaciations of transcendence to be dissolved, sclerotic regions of unity, distinction and identity to be reconnected to the traffic systems of primary mechanism.”
Sorry for the delay. There seems to be quite a good special on Artaud in A/V, a deleuzian journal ( can't find the reference right now) and plenty of good articles
Sir, your argument about Deleuze's elitism assumes so much. Deleuze didn't not cite his works, like you imply. He cited every reference. He doesn't leave things unexplained- if he gives an allusion to T.H Lawrence, he tells you where and explains why its relevant.
He had an horrendous style of writing, that great writers like Nietzsche and Schopenhauer would had despised (they had atticism as paradigm and in general the great writers of graeco-roman antiquity). Deleuze's style of writing was the typical gross style of the French philosophical academicians of the 1960's and the 1970's (Lacan etc.). All the pompous post-structuralists wrote in this way (Derrida was the most degenerate of all, which founded all its career on the 'differance', which is nothing more than the heideggerian Seyn lost in the hegelian 'bad infinite'; was a pure sophist). The deleuzian works with a more decent style are the historical-philosophical works and the last book.
We shall have to agree to disagree over the citations. I argued it was the whole academic discourse that was elitist, not just deleuzian work, and that it is elitist without necessarily knowing so --it just seems the right way to write and speak if you want to be credible as an academic.
I was joking, however isn't Deleuze in some ways a "nietzschean", I admit here that i've never read Deleuze - this is why I was joking, because he is read by amateurs and undergraduates. In one part of your video, where you speak of a way of how to understand Deleuze - perhaps to read what had shaped his thinking. If Nietzsche is a big influence here, then... But I doubt that any lucid and careful reader of Nietzsche of today would come to understand post- structuralism without any hints or help from outside. Most likely, a reader of Nietzsche would become lost or even a nazi. I've read his Ecce Homo, and the parts about "Germany" are very interesting. There, he tries to distance himself from the "good" germans. Thanks for your book recommendation!
Thank you so much for doing this. I do manual labor and have no academic network to speak of, people like you who put the effort in to make series like this have made my education possible. It means so much!
That's really good to know. Best of luck with your efforts
Yes, same. No access to these kinds of discussion with media like this.
It's been three years since you wrote this and I'm curious how your journey on learning philosophy has gone, as a regular non-academic
@@jdizzle708 Hi Joyce! It's been a ton of work and, unfortunately, I've really soured on academia although my knowledge of the subject matter has increased significantly. There's not really the time or interest on my part to justify this with specifics, but it was particularly disillusioning to gain an in depth knowledge of Marx and see that some of the more respected "Marxists" in academia essentially just WRONG. Just as two easy examples, Eagleton wrote a book saying something as asinine as "there's no private property in market socialism" where the "system" he's dreaming up explicitly contains commodity production and exchange. Similarly, Harvey misunderstood Capital so badly as to think money that cannot be hoarded is a solution to anything Marx wrote about -- and yet his companion is one of the most commonly recommended pieces of secondary literature.
More and more what I read, particularly true for political philosophy, is irrelevant, detached from reality, and implicitly defends the current state of affairs by taking it for granted.
TH-cam comments aren't the best time to give a real argument, so take this as a general summary of position and nothing more. Regardless, I have continued to learn a lot but would also retract the strength of my previous comment -- nobody needs youtube or secondary sources to learn, although they can be helpful.
@@vielbosheit yea... a lot of my friends I went to college with tended to sour on philosophy at the end of getting our degree. Only one of us went on to study philosophy more, the rest of us, including myself, went on to something else. The main reason for this was exactly your point, so many of them seemed divorced from reality, and when you take a step back, you realize that there's a reason for this. When you write a book, you need opportunity (which means time, ability, and both of these means you have money), and to write a philosophy and have it become popular, means you're also a professor. If you know anything about professors, they're extremely divorced from reality, believing that anyone can just get a job like theirs, which (nowadays) is just not true. Even my favorite philosopher, Nietzsche, was a professor at age 20 something. This means he had a type of security that I would never know, and had the network available to him to get his book out. These are the things we never really consider when we read something, study something, etc... I went on to get an MFA in poetry, and my experience with that soured me to writing poetry too. The lies we are told are never reckoned with because we like the idea of hope. The idea that people can do anything and succeed, when in fact, succeeding in a commercial like fashion requires so much you have no control over. Good luck out there.
dave, this is chill as hell. keep deterritorializing
Thanks Sibelius Composer --very encouraging
I love your username lobster daddy
What a likable and considerate man, great sceneries!
Many thanks technoshamanic communist
Holy heck this is exactly how I got into philosophy, tried to read one book and just kept following all the authors and books referenced. Year in and I'm reading academic papers and have a shelf filled with books and secondary sources and guides.
Best of luck with your project
It’s a conspiracy of booksellers. It’s never tied together, just a never ending thread or fabric of ideas. In the end you open a used bookstore.....and the cycle continues...
Thanks Kircheis. Very cool!
Did you start with Deleuze?
@@oaxacachaka Instead of a circle, maybe it's more of a rhizome?
This is fantastic. The Bourdieu reference at the beginning would have saved me a lot of anguish during my studies and should be standard first year reading. Your assessment also counters, very well, a lot of the dismissive commentaries I've come across. Many thanks!
You're very welcome. I agree that Bourdieu ought to be essential for any students. All the best
What work of Bourdieu are you guys talking about? Can't seem to find it... Very curious to read that, I'm doing my grad but what you said is oh so very recognisable.
Dave - thank you so much for this video series. I'm an undergrad right now at an ivy league university and came from a pretty shitty public high school in Arizona. I first encountered Deleuze freshman year in an intro to film studies course and have come across him throughout my academic time in varying capacities - either by mentions during class or conversations with friends who seemed to have been extremely affected by his and guattaris work. but it always seemed extremely inaccessible to me. so, as a desperate student, i just want to thank you for your kind and generous teaching style in this video. its been the first time that in the presence of deleuze's work i dont feel pressured to catch up to my peers or to the references deleuze makes, but allowed to just meander through deleuze and be challenged by his ideas, not to prove how much i understand, but to be challenged to think more critically, to learn for the pleasure of learning. thank you!
Sorry for the late reply Alex --glad you could impose your own agendas
The way Deleuze writes sounds like he wants people to go on an intellectual Dérive, highly inaccessible to most people. Thank you for making this series because I think a lot of the ideas are valuable. I'm excited to learn more!
Thanks for the support. I hope you get something out of the series. Good luck with your own projects
I am one of those PhD students struggling to get a handle on this theory that I feel pressured to implement into my own work. Your encouraging to take a calm, methodical approach to the work is revelatory. A breath of fresh air in a series of weeks in a seminar in a series of semesters that pushes us to somehow pretend we have really understoodd these incredible minds in the first panicked run-through.
Thank you for your effort and I really enjoy your mode of presentation. Now I want to go walk around the hills of Devon.
Thanks hillsonn. I now about the pressure, not helped when everyone around is bluffing desperately. Keep going
Thank you for such a ground-level statement of how things stand in academia! Your tapes are much appreciate.
Many thanks Campbell
these videos helped me write my english dissertation
Pleased to hear that! An unintended but interesting consequence! Best of luck in the future.
Thank you. Sanity. Reality. It’s so refreshing! Glad I found you. Good luck.
Thanks very much CPeter0912. I appreciate it. Good luck with your own projects
Thank You so much professor, I m a student of Social theory and had greatly enrich my understanding of Deluze. Love from Pakistan
Nice to hear from you Quiyas Khan. Good to hear from Pakistan ! Very best of luck with your own projects
Your series on Deleuze is fantastic!!!! Such a great help for a student meeting Deleuzian concepts for the first time with no understanding whatsoever.
Glad to have been of help. Deleuzian concepts are really challenging, but worth it once you get the hang of it
This is a beautifully refreshing, unpretentious, patient introduction to concepts I have longed to learn more about. Thank you for taking the time to spell things out.
Thanks a lot Conor Williams. Good luck with your own explorations
Thanks very much Conor Williams -- very encouraging
Thank you so so so so so so much for having done this! Some of the academics I admire most are Deleuzians and I feel that it's important that I try to get to understand these ideas. You're a lifesaver. I would buy you a beer. 1,000,000 thanks!
Thanks for this encouragement and kind words, shaun terry. Keep going with it
This is a fantastic series, thank you very much, Sir! Foucault said that the 21st century will be a Deleuzian century - very timely work. Hope more people find your channel. :-)
Thanks Bianka Banova. Foucault's remarks came in a review he did of two early Deleuze books, before ATP, and , as you might know, Deleuze said he thought Foiucault was probably joking!
I still watch your video on deleuze's philosophy time to time, it is very calming and informative.
Thanks blanche1813.Very encouraging.Best of luck with your own projects
I'm so glad I found this series
That's encouraging! All the best
I totally stumbled upon Deleuze after my love affair with Nietzsche. I don't even know what he's talking about 90% of the time, but it's amazing. These breadcrumbs are so nourishing. I'm no philosophy student or philosopher (yet), so I've been reading leisurely. It's like the text forces you to have to rethink the way you think about thinking. I apologize for sounding like gobbledygook, but I really think that's an apt description of what I've been experiencing. I agree wholeheartedly with taking your time. I've been reading leisurely for about 5 months. Thanks so much for this though. I like playing it in the background while I work. These videos are really a great key into D's work precisely because you did take your time.
Sidenote: You mentioned Proust. I was Proust the year before and couldn't get through it but was equally amazed.
Sounds like you are reading the material ina rewarding way -- and under no pressure. That's best
Nietzsche doesn't have nothing to do with Deleuze, disciples of Nietzsche are Spengler, Heidegger, Junger, Evola, Benn and the other members of the *Konservative Revolution* , like explained well the philosopher *Giorgio Locchi* in his book on Wagner and Nietzsche, since they share the same new concept of temporality and of aristocracy. The 'Authentic Temporality' of Heidegger its the same conception of time that Nietzsche and Wagner had.
Deleuze on the contrary its a mere exponent of the 1960's, in nietzschean terms an 'artistoid' and an exponent of 'Slave Morality'. The only interesting element in its philosophy its aestethics.
Wow! I've been waiting for something like this for a very long time. I studied Deleuze in my undergrad, I found him very hard to penetrate but the eureka moments were enough to make me know I want to study him deeply in the future. After watching this first video I am very hopefully that I won't have to delay my researching him for another 10 years (where I'd hopefully have the time!) but can get stuck into him now. Thank you very very much. Keep up the good work!
Glad to have helped .You're very welcome. Best of luck with it
Dave: Thank you so kindly! I am that very post graduate student you mention--trying to finish my dissertation this year and despite having a Masters in Cultural Studies and Critical Theory, I'm feeling increasingly unintelligent when it comes to certain theoretical approaches. I'm quite a Derrida fan and enjoy reading his work slowly (sort of like poetry) but there's only a handful of scholars I feel that way about. I've so far only read D&G's _Kafka: Toward a Minor Literature_. I HATED it, as I hate certain other theorists too, but my current work seems to require an understanding of the Bodies Without Organs concept and perhaps other concepts from this guy. Sadness. Though it's not all Deleuze that has made me feel this way, I have indeed felt like this project might be too much for me--Thank you for saying that this feeling is no uncommon and thanks for talking about smart things in an accessible way, as all instructors should!
Keep going Valerie! The video on the BwO is mostly about the stuff in Thou Plats,although the term does appear in the work on Proust and on Kafka as you say, more as a kind of machinism in the writing. Best book in my view is Bogue, R. (2003) Deleuze on Literature. London: Routledge.
working my way through these at the moment. really interesting, invaluable and i appreciate the effort and expertise.
Thanks for this DP Campbell. Good luck with your work
Thank you from New Zealand. Hope you and yours are well during these times.
Glad to have been of assistance. Well done you New Zealanders for stopping the virus
Thanks Dave. I was bought a copy of A Thousand Plateaus about 12 years ago and have attempted approximately once every 3 years to read it before giving up after a few hours and putting it back into storage. This time I am going equipped!
Sorry for the late reply Jack -- I hope it is going well. Facing the monster book with the goal of reading it from cover to cover is overwhelming
man you're amazing, what can a potato kid like me know about great intellectual giants like deleuze, i feel like we're all just peasants
You're right about the giants.Deleuze (and lots of others) are way out there. But we can still get something out of them don't you think? By the way, what's a 'potato kid'? Someone from Idaho?
@Nicole Storey when germans self-consiously refer to their national identity as rooted in a antipluralist ideology, they call themselves potatoes. sorry for this perversion.
Dear Dave, What a refreshing take on academia in general. Deleuze is often cited in film studies (my field) in the most obtuse and incomprehensible ways. I don't know if you plan on doing a video or more on Cinema 1 & 2, specifcally the time-image, but you'll get lots of hits from film students if you do! :) I wish I had you as a professor in our department. My profs never slow down to explain any type of jargon unless its for undergraduates, assuming us graduates at the PhD level must have been steeped in all this intellectual geneology. It drives me batty; I always get lost; looking up the jargon later, I realize how simple the concepts really are; why not just use plain english to describe the same thing so that everyone can be on the same page... and the name-dropping point is so true... infuriating.
+Isabelle Carbonell Thanks for the kind words. I am about to upload the next video -- on the body-without-organs. The best book on Deleuze on cinema is Bogue's Deleuze on Cinema, in my view. It is tough going but you can read selectively at first. I have some notes on this book andon other Deleuzian bits on my website -- see www.arasite.org/deleuzep.html. Good luck with it.
Hi Isabelle. I have done a video now on the movement-image.I am wracking my brains to find out how to talk about the time-image in 35 minutes, but if I saty sane, that will be next.
Thank you for this series. I, too, talk of things behind images and videos I've taken. It's a good way of presenting ideas on TH-cam.
Yes --it is counter to all the usual advice about 'effective teaching',but most 'educational video' is really dull. Is there a link to your stuff you could share?
@@DaveHarrisreDeleuze TH-cam needs visual elements. I still enjoy podcasts. I'm enjoying your work here.
This is so helpful! Wish I’d had this kind of contextual framework when I was reading A Thousand Plateaus and Anti-Oedipus in grad school 25+ years ago! Still, their work, or at least elements of helped form valuable frameworks for my studies and thinking I continue to reflect on today. Cheers, and many thanks!
This is a lovely work. An original, confident, thorough and democratic approach to the works discussed. The content and format work perfectly. Inspiring for all of us -- I'm finishing my phD now and works in the private sector, which leaves me with no time at all to read and study what I most want. I may now know a bit of what I want to do when I do have the time. 😉 I am more than certain that while people linger on years to publish books in paper, the forerunners are doing works like this. These are the words that will live on. Congratulations!
Many thanks Sergio L Tavares Filho. Very encouraging and supportive remarks. I fully sympathise with people who have demanding jobs but who want to read challenging material. I hope you do get a chance to ,ake your own videos. Best wishes. Dave
Thank you very much for this! I really need help in navigating Deleuze! More power to you! Also...nice tour of Devon. I love your tongue-in-cheek presentation.:))
Glad to have been of help.Devon is lovely.
Thank you so much, Dave. I never comment on TH-cam videos, but this time I'll make an exception because your material is amazing. I'm a Mexican grad student on a very demanding Critical Theory program and these videos are a wonderful aid. Cheers!
Thank you Marco. Very best of luck with the material
UNAM?
I have this bookmarked, I will be ready for this at some point in life, until then please keep these up!
Good man.Only tackle it when you are ready, of course...
just to a teen trynna learn deleuze , thanks for the info !
You are welcome jack bart -- all the best
this is so extremely cool of you. thanks!
Many thanks --very encouraging
Thank you, very helpful and I wasn't expecting the use of the bullshit word haha
You are welcome Nadia Di Martino. I have felt very exasperated with Deleuze and with philosophy generally at times -- but it is worth persevering.
Thank you, this is simply wonderful.
Thanks for the encouragement
Muchas gracias 🫂 greetings from Mexico 💚
Con gusto, ni27684
@@DaveHarrisreDeleuze muchas gracias por los paisajes en sus vídeos, son muy bonitos
thanks dave you're a G
You're very welcome Lucy. All the best with your projects
Thanks 👍 I bought Anti Oedipus. I didn't understand a word of it. I very much appreciate your informative "tapes" x
AO is tricky. Very self-refererntial. I struggled with it myself, but it was the first one I read. I have some rather scathing notes on it on my website:
www.arasite.org/antioedipus.html
Most of the videos refer to Thousand Plateaus which came afterwards.
Very best of luck with it.
Dear Dave-- I'm enjoying the Deleuze videos very much, especially your gentle tactic of having us look at peaceful scenery as we walk about. I'm the lone theory monster in my department (English), and I teach our required undergraduate course in literary theory. If I may, I would very much like to show parts of the videos in class when the course next runs. It'll be a major aid to my students. And truthfully, ambling about Devon's green and pleasant land in your learned company and listening to the discourse, I was nudged into a couple of productive new directions myself.
Thanks for the encouragement. Please feel free to use them however you wish. I am constructing another one at the moment and will beposting in due course. Best wishes
Many thanks-- we've all puzzled over n-1, eh? Yours was the clearest take on it I've heard :-)
It is a puzzle. My preferred interpretation is found in Delanda (Intensive Science...) ch. 3. First it means we don't add a dimension to understand a multiplicity as in transcendental analysis. Next we deploy a technique DeLanda calls 'slicing' which involves a simplification, a reduction of dimensionality. It refers to developing new kinds of geometry to simplify shapes and operations on them -- moving from normal, Euclidian geometry to topology, for example. I am no mathematician and I had to read that bit several times. Try it for yourself?
I shall! I have a copy of DeLanda. I'll report back if it makes any sense to me :-)
Update: you've sent me on what's turning out to be a bit of a rencontre with DeLanda. Also Riemann, Poincare, Bergson. Be back later.
This is fabulous, keep making videos!
Thank you Lewis Watt. I've had a break to write a book but that is done now. I don't know if the UK police would see making a video as an acceptable reason to break lockdown and wander round the countryside though!
Really clear presentation style. Thank you very much.
Hi vennelix. This is a very late reply, but thanks for the encouragement.
Thank you for this. Very well done!
You're welcome. All the best
I like your sense of humor.
Thanks Klein Klaus. Beneath the clown's mask I am weeping, of course...
hahaha great attitude. looking forward to listening to rest of this
I hope it comes up to your expectations
Gracias, Harris. Entiendo tu inglés como si fuera español. Me apunto para la aventura. Deleuze es un hermoso reto.
Muchas gracias. Por desgracia no hablo español. Disfrute de su lectura de Deleuze
My english is not good at all, but I can understand your discourse as it were in spanish. Thanks again.
you beautiful man, this is terrific. thank you.
Aw shucks! Thanks for the encouraging words though
thank you so much
You are very welcome, winta. All the best with your own projects
This is all true and very helpful, but I feel a clarification about their style is in order; it’s academic in a sense, but only because it’s the exact opposite of academic writing. They take all the usual rules of academic writing and break them so consistently and systematically that only somebody who knows those rules will be able to recognise what they’re doing, because they’re writing a book for academics that tries to escape the limitations of academia.
You are right to insist that there is a useful philosophical core to their work. I think you see that best in almost anything other than Thousand Plateaus (although Anti-Oedipus is pretty flashy). There are also lots of implicit references and allusions to French culture -- not least to Proust, but also to most of the others Deleuze has commented upon, like Bergson -- that can deeply puzzle the newbie. I do wonder what on earth new readers must make of the admiration for Castenada too, or the context of 60s student radicalism. So it is not a complete break with French academic discourse and the trick is to get at the core while coping with the hat-doffing and impression management. They admire writers who do indeed break consistently with conventions -- the avant-garde -- but there is a great variability in their own styles, even Gattari, who is mostly pretty clear but has a tendency to head to obsessive classification as in the dreadul Schizophrenic Cartographies. Good luck with your own reading.
Thank You!
I have to study this for my MA in acting at the university of Plymouth of all things 😅
I assume you mean Thousand Plateaus? Did they say how it was supposed to fit in exactly, AnonymousCaveman, or what exactly you were supposed to get out of it? Just that book itself is massive! You might try the notes on the book on my website -- but they are quite lengthy themselves. Does the course have any other philosophy? D&G like Artaud, but I can't see much other obvious connection with Acting. Seems pretty inexplicable and mildly sadistic...
I definitely fall into the first category
I never wanted to be a poseur so I just developed an overwhelming anger and resentment
I sympathise AlemanJuan. Academic arugment can be such a challenge to your identity. That's why you need to feel you can impose your own priorities on it. That requires a bit of initial confidence too, of course, but that grows as you get better.
@@DaveHarrisreDeleuze totally, i appreciate people who excavate the ideas and tell them to me. i haven't cultivated the patience or discipline for that yet but i enjoy listening to you. thanks for the response!
More please!!
You’re a legend
Thankls for the encouragement Jake Hanrahan
Thank you !
You are welcome, charlesmiel
God bless you.
Thank you Bardey --and you
Amazing.
Thanks for the encouragement, karton
You have a very steady and elegant way of voicing things. The way you've stressed "is" and then paused, around the 11:37 mark, hit me with a wonderful moment of deja connue. After a few seconds of unconscious recollecting i've found the root of my familiarity with your manner of speech - it's remarkably similar to that of actor Terrence Stamp. Voices have a great impact on how we receive the information uttered by them, some are able provide a subtle favorable feeling akin to the way the sting of a mosquito also provides the anesthetic to give it a favorable reception.
Here's a 20 minute fragment of a book narrated by him - urbangurucafe.com/2010/03/14/75-david-carse-perfect-brilliant-stillness/
Thanks -- very flattering, but the only things T Stamp and I have is that we are both from southern England and have similar accents.HIs is London and mine is from Portsmouth, some 70 miles away. I agree voices can have an impact, and Ilike Stamp. Thanks for the link
Do you think it's too late to start reading philosophy at 18? I haven't read much in the past but this video intrigued me and I want to start reading philosophical works, but I really don't have any experience in reading philosophy.
Go for it Stormslayer. You need to stay confident and relaxed though if you haven't done much before --it can be very weird at first
aw shit, here we go again
I agree --you can only sigh and try to cope
sweetest guy
Very kind Haider Ali. I think my wife probably has a slightly different view, o fcourse
Thank you
You're very welcome
Tnkx
No problem
Thousand Plateaus and Anti-Oedipus are definitely not his worst books, I hate when people hate on his work with Guattari, Guatarri doesn't get enough credit
Guattari was a complete idiot, Zizek is right about him.
That's like, your opinion man
At least I'm not a fanboy of people like 'Guattari'.
My own view is that Guattari is definitely as important as Deleuze, not least in contributing concepts like de/reterritorialization and transversality (both Massumi's and Dosse's commentaries list several others). I think ATP is their worst book because they tried to be celebrity academics offering immediate commentary on what was then popular culture, with very uneven results. I wish someone had edited the work to cut out repetitions (how many times do they cite the orchid and the wasp), massive generalizations (like the ones about French novels in Plateau 7 -- see video 12 on faciality), and throwaways to obscure material (like the book on Ethiopian magic scrolls -- Plateau 7 video12 again). True, Anti-Oedipus is nearly as bad. Lots of people say how productive their working relationship was -- but they also amplified each other's worse faults as well.
If you're an academic and you manage to never struggle with imposter syndrome, you're either a genius or you're far, far too confident.
I agree. Anyone who tangles with the great people always feels like an imposter. It's far less stressful to stick with what you know in some sort of echo chamber.
Glod bless you
Many thanks. All the best
Watch all of them....
Thanks for this Peter Morris. I am glad to have helped. Good luck.
Do you have a list of literary authors and filmmakers that you would suggest one to read and watch before reading Deleuze, in order to understand his references?
It would be a big list and a demanding read/watch -- Proust alone took me months ( and I am retired). Best thing maybe is to get a quick fix on whoever it is via Google and then see what you can do?
Can you liberate us? is it hopeless? Can we be free?
Based.
Hi AdamisforGiants. I had to look up 'based' in a slang dictionary -- thanks
please do on other philosopher and thinker too.
I have thought of some -- hard to choose though. Do you have any suggestions?
How do you feel about Žižek? I know he wrote a book on Deleuze, but I haven't read it. I plan on getting to it within the next few years. I'm very interested in Deleuze's relationship to Hegelianism, dialectical materialism, Marx, the Lacanian conception of "lack", etc. - would love to hear your thoughts.
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I love the explication of your methodology. I don't think I've ever heard a book review that is so honest and personal. I'm curions, as it seems you like difficult books--have you read Finnegans Wake? Great work!
I like difficult books indeed, but Finnegans Wake defeated me, I fear, even A Burgess's guide. I don't know Dublin, for one thing, and the references to irish and Scandinavian mythology and literature went right over my head. I really liked Ulysses though
Nick Land offers a useful hint -
“Deleuze and Guattari can appear to be taxingly difficult writers, although it is also true that they demand very little. Thinking immanence relentlessly suffices on its own to follow where it matters. At every point of blockage there is some belief to be scrapped, glaciations of transcendence to be dissolved, sclerotic regions of unity, distinction and identity to be reconnected to the traffic systems of primary mechanism.”
Thanks John Hannon. I'm sure this is helpful but probably not for real beginners?
Are you by any chance a fan of WIm Wenders?
Not a great fan but I like the work You?
garrulous.
Sorry
Very good intro, but I d rather want to see your talking face. It is easier for foreign listeners to understand words when they see mouth movement
Hi Adam Drygas. Thanks for your feedback. I do have a transcript for all these videos -- see my Deleuze page www.arasite.org/deleuzep.html
Do you discuss Artaud as well?
Sorry for the delay. There seems to be quite a good special on Artaud in A/V, a deleuzian journal ( can't find the reference right now) and plenty of good articles
Just found the link to J Shaw's critical account of Deleuze on Artaud: th-cam.com/video/1b3gP2j5EII/w-d-xo.html
Sir, your argument about Deleuze's elitism assumes so much. Deleuze didn't not cite his works, like you imply. He cited every reference. He doesn't leave things unexplained- if he gives an allusion to T.H Lawrence, he tells you where and explains why its relevant.
He had an horrendous style of writing, that great writers like Nietzsche and Schopenhauer would had despised (they had atticism as paradigm and in general the great writers of graeco-roman antiquity). Deleuze's style of writing was the typical gross style of the French philosophical academicians of the 1960's and the 1970's (Lacan etc.).
All the pompous post-structuralists wrote in this way (Derrida was the most degenerate of all, which founded all its career on the 'differance', which is nothing more than the heideggerian Seyn lost in the hegelian 'bad infinite'; was a pure sophist).
The deleuzian works with a more decent style are the historical-philosophical works and the last book.
We shall have to agree to disagree over the citations. I argued it was the whole academic discourse that was elitist, not just deleuzian work, and that it is elitist without necessarily knowing so --it just seems the right way to write and speak if you want to be credible as an academic.
don't have much respect for "educationalists".
They are very variable I find...
read Nietzsche :D
I've tried -- still not impressed despite all the efforts to rehabilitate him. Klossowski on Nietzsche is impressive, I admit
I was joking, however isn't Deleuze in some ways a "nietzschean", I admit here that i've never read Deleuze - this is why I was joking, because he is read by amateurs and undergraduates. In one part of your video, where you speak of a way of how to understand Deleuze - perhaps to read what had shaped his thinking. If Nietzsche is a big influence here, then... But I doubt that any lucid and careful reader of Nietzsche of today would come to understand post- structuralism without any hints or help from outside. Most likely, a reader of Nietzsche would become lost or even a nazi.
I've read his Ecce Homo, and the parts about "Germany" are very interesting. There, he tries to distance himself from the "good" germans.
Thanks for your book recommendation!
Thank you!
You're welcome